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A weekly conversation with a non-fiction writer about how they got their start, how they work, and how they tell stories. Co-produced by Longform and The Atavist.


Episode 261: Hillary Clinton  

Hillary Clinton is the former Democratic nominee for president. Her new book is What Happened.

“I hugged a lot of people after [my concession speech] was over. A lot of people cried … and then it was done. So Bill and I went out and got in the back of the van that we drive around in, and I just felt like all of the adrenaline was drained. I mean there was nothing left. It was like somebody had pulled the plug on a bathtub and everything just drained out. I just slumped over. Sat there. … And then we got home, and it was just us as it has been for so many years—in our little house, with our dogs. It was a really painful, exhausting time.”

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@HillaryClinton hillaryclinton.com [00:15] What Happened (Simon & Schuster • 2017) [03:45] Global Warming For Dummies (Elizabeth May & Zoe Caron • For Dummies • 2008) [26:00] "The Comey Letter Probably Cost Clinton the Election" (Nate Silver • FiveThirtyEight • May 2017) [31:00] "Rosenstein’s Case Against Comey, Annotated" (Candice Norwood & Elaine Godfrey • Atlantic • May 2017) [32:00] The Creation of Anne Boleyn: A New Look at England’s Most Notorious Queen (Susan Bordo • Melville House • 2014) [32:00] The Destruction of Hillary Clinton (Susan Bordo • Melville House • 2017) [37:45] "Margaret Atwood, The Prophet of Dystopia" (Rebecca Mead • New Yorker • Apr 2017)

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Episode 260: Rachel Kaadzi Ghansah  

Rachel Kaadzi Ghansah is an essayist. Her latest piece is “A Most American Terrorist: The Making of Dylann Roof.”

“I remember feeling like ‘you’re playing chess with evil, and you gotta win.’ Because this is the most terrible thing I’d ever seen. And I was so mad. I still get so mad. Words aren’t enough. I’m angry about it. I can’t do anything to Dylann Roof, physically, so this is what I could do.”

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the-rachelkaadzighansah.tumblr.com Kaadzi Ghansah on Longform [00:45] Kaadzi Ghansah on the Longform Podcast [00:45] "A Most American Terrorist: The Making of Dylann Roof" (GQ • Aug 2017) [22:45] "America’s Most Political Food" (Lauren Collins • New Yorker • Apr 2017) [24:30] Light in August (William Faulkner • Random House • 1990) [44:45] "The Rise of the Valkyries" (Seyward Darby • Harper’s • Sep 2017)

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Episode 259: Ellen Barry  

Ellen Barry is the former New York Times bureau chief for South Asia.

“Every time you leave a beat—and this is something that I think as foreign correspondents we rarely communicate to our readers—you’re walking away from a story which has really been your whole life for four or five years. And it’s hard to walk away…The majority of us live a story for a certain number of years, and then we just turn our backs on it.”

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@EllenBarryNYT Barry on Longform [01:15] Barry’s New York Times archive [01:30] "How to Get Away With Murder in Small-Town India" (New York Times • Aug 2017) [03:00] readthissummer.com [06:45] "A Newspaper for Its Time" (Moscow Times • Oct 2012) [07:30] "Lost Exile" (James Verini • Vanity Fair • Feb 2010) [09:15] "The Russia Left Behind" (New York Times • Oct 2013) [11:15] "A Specter’s Shadow Returns to Haunt Moscow" (New York Times • Oct 2008) [16:00] Alice Gregory on the Longform Podcast [17:30] The Name of the Wind (Patrick Rothfuss • DAW Books • 2008) [19:15] Jeffrey Gettleman on the Longform Podcast [24:00] "Shooting An Elephant" (George Orwell • New Writing • 1936) [27:45] "In India, a Small Band of Women Risk It All for a Chance to Work" (New York Times • Jan 2016) [30:15] "Modi, India’s Next Prime Minister, Adopts a Softer Tone" (New York Times • May 2014) [38:15] "In Rare Move, Death Sentence in Delhi Gang Rape Case Is Upheld" (New York Times • May 2017)

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Episode 258: Kate Fagan  

Kate Fagan is a columnist and feature writer for ESPN. Her latest book is What Made Maddy Run: The Secret Struggles and Tragic Death of an All-American Teen.

“When I was professionally closeted, I was kind of bitter. I didn’t have a ton of empathy. And I don’t think I always asked the right question, because I wouldn’t ask people questions that I wouldn’t want to be asked…I had walls up. I wouldn’t even allow myself to be vulnerable in my writing. Because the whole point of my existence at that time was to circumvent any moment that could create vulnerability in a way that would frighten me. And I think you could that see in my writing.”

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@katefagan3 bykatefagan.com [00:00] Stoner [00:45] Fagan’s Archive at ESPN [00:45] Around the Horn [01:00] What Made Maddy Run: The Secret Struggles and Tragic Death of an All-American Teen (Little, Brown and Company • 2017) [01:15] "Split Image" (ESPN • May 2015) [06:30] The Reappearing Act: Coming Out as Gay on a College Basketball Team Led by Born-Again Christians (Skyhorse Publishing • 2014) [07:45] "Storybook Ending Trailing Tennessee Late, Unbeaten Connecticut Got Into Gear In Time To Conclude a Charmed Season" (Austin Murphy • Sports Illustrated • Apr 1995) [16:00] Fagan’s Archive at Ellensburg Daily Record [16:30] Fagan’s Archive at The Post Star [16:45] Fagan’s Archive at The Philadelphia Inquirer [22:00] Deep Sixer Blog [37:45] Madison Holleran’s Instagram [44:15] Outside the Lines [44:15] First Take

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Episode 257: Jay Caspian Kang  

Jay Caspian Kang is a writer at large at The New York Times Magazine and a correspondent for Vice News Tonight.

“I make a pretty provocative argument about how Asian American identity doesn’t really exist—how it’s basically just an academic idea, and it’s not lived within the lives of anybody who’s Asian. Like you grow up, you’re Korean, you’re a minority. You don’t have any sort of kinship with, like, Indian kids. You know? And there’s no cultural sharedness where you’re just like, ‘oh yeah…Asia!’”

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@jaycaspiankang Kang’s Blog Kang on Longform [00:00] Mussolini’s Arctic Airship (Eva Holland • Kindle Single • Aug 2017) [00:45] "What a Fraternity Hazing Death Revealed About the Painful Search for an Asian-American Identity" (New York Times Magazine • Aug 2017) [00:45] Kang on the Longform Podcast [01:15] Kang’s Archive at The New Yorker [02:30] readthissummer.com [02:45] Havrilesky on the Longform Podcast [05:45] "That Other School Shooting" (New York Times Magazine • Mar 2013) [07:30] The Dead Do Not Improve: A Novel (Hogarth • 2013) [15:15] Tim Ferriss on the Longform Podcast [17:45] "John Wayne: A Love Song" (Joan Didion • Saturday Evening Post • Aug 1965) [22:15] "A Question of Identity" (Grantland • Mar 2012) [24:45] Kang’s Column “On Sports” at The New York Times Magazine [27:30] Les Blank’s Website [27:45] Amy [27:45] Kurt Cobain: Montage of Heck [35:15] "No place like home" (Vice News • Jun 2017) [36:15] "The End and Don King" (Grantland • Apr 2013) [36:45] "Inside the final days of the Standing Rock protest" (Vice • Feb 2017) [37:30] "What comes after Standing Rock?" (Vice • Jan 2017) [39:00] "‘Our Demand Is Simple: Stop Killing Us’" (New York Times Magazine • May 2015) [41:30] "Charlottesville: Race and Terror" (Vice News • Aug 2017) [42:45] "Impeached!" (David Gilbert • Vice News • Dec 2016) [48:00] "Now You See Me" (Vice News • Mar 2017)


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Episode 256: David Gessner  

David Gessner is the author of ten books. His latest is Ultimate Glory: Frisbee, Obsession, and My Wild Youth.

“The ambition got in my way at first. Because I wanted my stuff to be great, and it froze me up. But later on it was really helpful. I’m startled by the way people don’t, you know, admit [they care] … it seems unlikely people wouldn’t want to be immortal.”

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@BDsCocktailHour davidgessner.com Gessner on Longform "Not Fuzz" (David Mark Simpson • Atavist • Jul 2017) [01:00] Ultimate Glory: Frisbee, Obsession, and My Wild Youth (Riverhead Books • 2017) [02:00] readthissummer.com [04:45] "No Disc-Respect" (Outside • Jun 2017) [08:15] A Wild, Rank Place: One Year on Cape Cod (University Press of New England • 1997) [08:30] Under the Devil’s Thumb (University of Arizona Press • 1999) [11:00] Sick of Nature (University Press of New England • 2004) [11:00] "Ultimate Glory" (Bill and Dave’s Cocktail Hour • Jan 2012) [11:15] Bill and Dave’s Cocktail Hour [13:00] All the Wild That Remains: Edward Abbey, Wallace Stegner, and the American West (W.W. Norton & Company • 2016) [22:30] Return of the Osprey: A Season of Flight and Wonder (Ballantine • 2002) [26:15] "Meet the Keatles" (Oxford American • Feb 2014) [29:00] "After Hurricane Sandy, One Man Tries to Stop the Reconstruction" (Outside • Oct 2013) [29:30] The Prophet of Dry Hill: Lessons From a Life in Nature (Beacon Press • 2005) [30:15] "Those Who Write, Teach" (New York Times Magazine • Sep 2008) [37:45] Nina de Gramont’s Website [43:30] "This Is Your Brain on Nature" (National Geographic • Jan 2017)


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Episode 255: Matthew Klam  

Matthew Klam is a journalist and fiction writer. His new novel is Who Is Rich?.

“The New Yorker had hyped me with this “20 Under 40” thing…and when the tenth anniversary of that list [came], somebody wrote an article about it. And they found everybody in it, and I was the only one who hadn’t done anything since then, according to them. And the article, it was a little paragraph or two, it ended with ‘poor Matthew Klam.’”

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@MatthewKlam matthewklam.com [01:00] Sam the Cat: and Other Stories (Vintage • 2001) [01:00] Who Is Rich?: A Novel (Random House • 2017) [01:45] Doree Shafrir on Longform [01:45] Elif Batuman on Longform [02:00] readthissummer.com [03:00] "Matthew Klam’s New Book Is Only 17 Years Overdue" (Taffy Brodesser-Akner • Vulture • Jul 2017) [03:15] "Experiencing Ecstasy" (New York Times Magazine • Jan 2001) [04:15] "Sam the Cat" (New Yorker • May 1993) [sub req’d] [05:30] "What Do You Think of Ted Williams Now?" (Richard Ben Cramer • Esquire • Jun 1986) [06:15] "Missing the Boom; Some of My Best Friends Are Rich" (New York Times Magazine • Jun 1998) [06:30] Klam’s Story About His Hasidic Cousins in McSweeney’s Issue 33 [06:45] "The Pilot’s Tale" (Harper’s • Feb 1999) [sub req’d] [09:00] "Big Event Brent" (GQ) [pdf] [11:15] "Riding the Mo In the Lime Green Glow" (New York Times Magazine • Nov 1999) [14:15] "How to Get Over an Aversion to Whiskey" (Wall Street Journal • Jun 2017) [sub req’d] [15:45] Quantico [19:30] "Freak" (Devin Friedman • GQ • Feb 2010) [20:30] "The Man in the Irony Mask" (GQ • Mar 2008) [28:00] A Tragic Honesty: The Life and Work of Richard Yates (Blake Bailey • Picador • 2004) [28:00] Cheever: A Life (Blake Bailey • Vintage • 2010) [29:00] "Adina, Astrid, Chipewee, Jasmine" (New Yorker • May 2006) [30:00] Look at Me: A Novel (Jennifer Egan • Anchor • 2002) [30:15] The Invisible Circus (Jennifer Egan • Anchor • 1995) [31:30] "20 Under 40" (New Yorker • 1999) [31:30] "The New Yorker’s 20 Under 40 Fiction Special Will Save Fiction Again" (Mark Asch • The L Magazine • May 2010) [38:45] Andy Ward on the Longform Podcast [43:15] The Things They Carried (Tim O’Brien • Mariner Books • 2009)

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Episode 254: Maggie Haberman  

Maggie Haberman covers the White House for The New York Times.

“If I start thinking about it, then I’m not going to be able to just keep doing my job. I'm being as honest as I can — I try not to think about it. If you’re flying a plane and you think about the fact that if the plane blows up in midair you’re gonna die, do you feel like you can really focus as well? So, I’m not thinking about [the stakes]. This is just my job. This is what we do. Ask me another question.”

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@maggieNYT Haberman on Longform [01:45] "Manafort Talks With Senate Investigators About Meeting With Russians" (with Eileen Sullivan and Adam Goldman • New York Times • Jul 2017) [02:15] Haberman’s New York Times archive [02:30] Haberman’s New York Post archive [02:30] Haberman’s New York Daily News archive [03:15] readthissummer.com [03:45] "Paladino assails Cuomo’s parenting" (Politico • Oct 2010) [09:00] Harold and the Purple Crayon (Crockett Johnson • Harper Collins • 2015) [12:45] "Inside Donald Trump’s Last Stand: An Anxious Nominee Seeks Assurance" (with Ashley Parker, Jeremy W. Peters, and Michael Barbaro • New York Times • Nov 2016) [22:45] Private Parts [25:00] "Excerpts From the Times’s Interview With Trump" (with Peter Baker and Michael S. Schmidt • New York Times • Jul 2017) [35:15] "Trump and Staff Rethink Tactics After Stumbles" (with Glenn Thrush • New York Times • Feb 2017) [38:45] Steve Dunleavy’s New York Post archive [47:45] Broadcast News

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Episode 253: Steven Levy  

Steven Levy writes for Wired, where he is the editor of Backchannel.

“It’s about people. Travis Kalanick’s foibles aren’t because he’s a technology executive. It’s because he’s Travis Kalanick. That’s the way he is. There is a certain strain in Silicon Valley, which rewards totally driven people, but that is humanity. And advanced technology is no guarantee—and as a matter of fact I don’t think it’ll do anything—from stopping ill-intentioned people from doing ill-intentioned things.”

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@StevenLevy stevenlevy.com Levy on Longform [03:00] readthissummer.com [04:00] "Hackers in Paradise" (Rolling Stone • Apr 1982) [05:45] Whole Earth Catalog [06:15] Hackers: Heroes of the Computer Revolution (O’Reilly Media • 2010) [11:00] "The Birth of the Mac: Rolling Stone’s 1984 Feature on Steve Jobs and his Whiz Kids" (Rolling Stone • Oct 2011) [19:00] "Mark Zuckerberg on Facebook’s Future, From Virtual Reality to Anonymity" (Wired • Apr 2014) [20:45] Levy's MTV Cover Story (Rolling Stone • 1983) [not online] [23:30] Levy's Bruce Springsteen Story (Philadelphia Magazine • 1975) [not online] [28:00] New York Diaries: 1609 to 2009 (Teresa Carpenter • Modern Library • 2012) [30:30] "Reviewing the First Iphone In a Hype Typhoon" (Wired • Jun 2017) [31:30] "From the Archives: The Original Review of ‘Sgt. Pepper’s Lonely Hearts Club Band’" (Richard Goldstein • New York Times • Jun 2017) [32:00] Without a Doubt (Marcia Clark with Teresa Carpenter • Graymalkin Media • 2016) [37:45] Levy’s Archive at Newsweek [39:45] In the Plex: How Google Thinks, Works, and Shapes Our Lives (Simon & Schuster • 2011) [42:30] Backchannel [48:45] "One More Thing: Inside Apple’s Insanely Great (or Just Insane) New Mothership" (Wired • May 2017)

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Episode 252: Mark Bowden  

Mark Bowden is a journalist and the author of 13 books, including Black Hawk Down and his latest, Hue 1968: A Turning Point of the American War in Vietnam.

“My goal is never to condemn someone that I’m writing about. It’s always to understand them. And that, to me, is far more interesting than passing judgment on them. I want you to read about Che Thi Mung, an 18-year-old village girl, who was selling hats on corners in Hue in the daytime and going home and sharpening spikes to go into booby traps to try and kill American soldiers and ARVN soldiers in the evening. I want to understand why she would do that, why she would be so motivated to do that. And I think I did.”

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@markbowdenwrite markbowdenbooks.com Bowden on Longform [01:00] Black Hawk Down: A Story of Modern War (Grove Press • 2010) [01:00] Bowden’s Black Hawk Down Series at The Inquirer [01:15] Bowden’s Archive at The Atlantic [01:15] Hue 1968: A Turning Point of the American War in Vietnam (Atlantic Monthly Press • 2017) [02:00] Startup: A Novel (Doree Shafrir • Little, Brown and Company • 2017) [02:00] readthissummer.com [09:30] "Hell Sucks" (Michael Herr • Esquire • Aug 1968) [10:15] The Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test (Tom Wolfe • Picador • 2008) [10:30] Thy Neighbor’s Wife (Gay Talese • Harper Perennial • 2009) [11:15] Bowden’s Inquirer stories reprinted in Road Work: Among Tyrants, Beasts, Heroes, and Rogues (Atlantic Monthly Press • 2004) [24:15] "Tales of the Tyrant" (Atlantic • May 2002) [28:30] Worm: The First Digital World War (Atlantic Monthly Press • 2011) [29:15] The Finish: The Killing of Osama bin Laden (Atlantic Monthly Press • 2012) [35:00] Erin Lee Carr on the Longform Podcast [35:45] "The Enemy Within" (Atlantic • Jun 2010)

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Episode 239: S-Town's Brian Reed  

Brian Reed, a senior producer at This American Life, is the host of S-Town.

“It’s a story about the remarkableness of what could be called an unremarkable life.”

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@brihreed Reed's This American Life archive [28:45] Cops See It Differently, Part One (This American Life • Feb 2015) [28:45] Wake Up Now (This American Life • Dec 2014) [44:30] Stoner (John Wiliams • Viking • 1965) [45:15] Photo of the S-Town planning room [46:00] The Known World: A Novel (Edward P. Jones • HarperCollins • 2003)

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Episode 251: Ginger Thompson  

Ginger Thompson is a Pulitzer Prize-winning senior reporter at ProPublica. Her most recent article is "How the U.S. Triggered a Massacre in Mexico."

“How many times have I written the phrase ‘a town that was controlled by drug traffickers?' I had no idea what that really meant. What does it mean to live in a town that’s controlled by drug traffickers? And how does it get that way? One of the things I was hoping that we could do by having the people who actually lived through that explain it to us was that—to bring you close to that and say, ‘No, here’s what that means.’”

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@gingerthomp1 Thompson on Longform [01:30] "How the U.S. Triggered a Massacre in Mexico" (ProPublica / National Geographic • Jun 2017) [01:45] Thompson’s Archive at The New York Times [01:45] "Trafficking In Terror" (New Yorker • Dec 2015) [02:30] readthissummer.com [02:45] Patient H.M.: A Story of Memory, Madness, and Family Secrets (Luke Dittrich • Random House • 2016) [02:45] Luke Dittrich on the Longform Podcast [05:15] Voices from Chernobyl: The Oral History of a Nuclear Disaster (Svetlana Alexievich • Picador • 2006) [34:30] "A Drug Family in the Winner’s Circle" (New York Times • Jun 2012) [38:45] "Nafta to Open Foodgates, Engulfing Rural Mexico" (New York Times • Dec 2002) [38:45] Thompson’s “Fatal secretes in Honduras” series (with Gary Cohn • Baltimore Sun • 1995) [43:15] "Calderón Wins Narrow Victory in Mexico Election" (with James C. McKinley Jr. • New York Times • Jul 2006) [45:30] "Mexico City Journal; The Rich, Famous and Aghast: A Peep-Show Book" (New York Times • Sep 2002) [46:30] "Richest Mexican talks equity— Business International Herald Tribune" (New York Times • Jun 2006) [52:15] "Reaping What Was Sown On the Old Plantation; A Landowner Tells Her Family’s Truth. A Park Ranger Wants a Broader Truth." (New York Times • Jun 2000) [55:30] "‘There’s No Real Fight Against Drugs’" (Atlantic • Jul 2015)

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Episode 250: Patricia Lockwood  

Patricia Lockwood is a poet and essayist. Her new book is Priestdaddy: A Memoir.

“[Prose writing is] strange to me as a poet. I’m like, ‘Well I guess I’ll tell you just what happened then.’ But the humor has to be there as well. Because in my family household…the absurdity or the surrealism that we have is in reaction to the craziness of the household. So something like your underwear-clad father with his hand in a vat of pickles, sitting in a room full of $10,000 guitars and telling you that he can’t afford to send you to college—that’s bad. That’s a sad scene. But it’s also totally a lunatic scene. It’s, just the very fact of it, all these accoutrements, all the elements of the scene—they are funny.”

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@TriciaLockwood Lockwood on Longform [00:00] Stoner [01:00] Priestdaddy: A Memoir (Riverhead Books • 2017) [02:00] readthissummer.com [02:30] How To Be a Person in the World (Heather Havrilesky • Doubleday • 2016) [02:30] Heather Havrilesky on the Longform Podcast [09:15] Balloon Pop Outlaw Black (Octopus Books • 2012) [10:00] Wave Books [10:00] Octopus Books [10:15] Black Ocean [11:30] "The Dark Mystery of Emily Dickinson’s ‘Master’ Letters" (Nicholas Rombes • The Rumpus • May 2011) [12:00] Motherland Fatherland Homelandsexuals (Penguin Poets • 2014) [20:15] Lockwood’s Jonathan Franzen Tweet [20:45] Lockwood’s Paris Review Tweet

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Episode 249: John Grisham  

John Grisham is the author of 38 books, including his latest novel, Camino Island.

“A Time to Kill didn’t sell. It just didn’t sell. There was never any talk of going back for a second printing. No talk of paper back. No foreign deal. It was a flop. And I told my wife, I said, ‘Look, I’m gonna do it one more time. I’m gonna write one more book…hopefully something more commercial, more accessible, more popular. If this doesn’t work, forget this career. Forget this hobby. I’m just gonna be a lawyer and get on with it.”

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@JohnGrisham jgrisham.com [00:30] The Firm (Dell • 2009) [00:30] The Pelican Brief: A Novel (Dell • 2010) [00:30] The Innocent Man: Murder and Injustice in a Small Town (Dell • 2012) [01:30] Wesley Lowery on the Longform Podcast [01:30] Heather Havrilesky on the Longform Podcast [01:30] Hua Hsu on the Longform Podcast [01:45] Luke Dittrich on the Longform Podcast [01:45] Krista Tippett on the Longform Podcast [02:15] readthissummer.com [08:00] A Time to Kill: A Novel (Dell • 2009) [15:15] The Great Gatsby (F. Scott Fitzgerald • Scribner • 2004) [15:15] The Grapes of Wrath (John Steinbeck • Penguin Classics • 2006) [19:45] The Firm [23:00] Camino Island: A Novel (Doubleday • 2017) [28:45] "The Law-School Scam" (Paul Campos • Atlantic • Sep 2014) [36:45] Book Tour with John Grisham [49:30] Stoner

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Episode 248: Erin Lee Carr  

Erin Lee Carr is a documentary filmmaker and writer. Her new film is Mommy Dead and Dearest.

“I feel like I’ve always had the story down—that’s not been really difficult for me. So the difficult thing, I think, for me, has always been access. Can I get the access? Can I withstand the pressure? You know, there’s been so many times where I wasn’t being paid to do the job, and I had to wait on the access. And it’s not for the faint of heart. You know, I could have spent a year and a half of my life doing [Mommy Dead and Dearest] and I could’ve not gotten the access to Gypsy, and it kind of would’ve been a wash.”

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@erinleecarr erinleecarr.com [02:00] Mommy Dead and Dearest [02:00] Thought Crimes: The Case of the Cannibal Cop [02:30] "Dee Dee Wanted Her Daughter To Be Sick, Gypsy Wanted Her Mom To Be Murdered" (Michelle Dean • BuzzFeed • Aug 2016) [04:30] Carr’s Vice archive [05:15] Girls [05:45] Capturing the Friedmans [11:15] "First Animal to Survive in Space" (Motherboard • Sep 2012) [12:45] David Carr’s Archive at The New York Times [13:45] "David Carr: The News Diet of a Media Omnivore" (Fresh Air • Oct 2011) [14:15] Click, Print, Gun: The Inside story of the 3D-Printed Gun Movement [25:00] Raw Deal: The Untold Story of NYPD’s “Cannibal Cop” (Gil Valle • WildBlue Press • 2017) [32:00] Nick Bilton on the Longform Podcast [32:00] American Kingpin: The Epic Hunt for the Criminal Mastermind Behind the Silk Road (Nick Bilton • Portfolio • 2017) [42:45] Paradise Lost: The Child Murders at Robin Hood Hills [47:00] "Erin Lee Carr’s New True-Crime Documentary to Air on HBO (Exclusive)" (Gregg Kilday • Hollywood Reporter • Oct 2016) [50:30] "Laura Poitras, Glen Greenwald and Edward Snowden with David Carr" (Times Talks • Feb 2015) [52:15] "Still Rendering" (Medium • Feb 2016) [55:00] The Night of the Gun: A reporter investigates the darkest story of his life. His own. (David Carr • Simon & Schuster • 2009)

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Episode 247: Ariel Levy  

Ariel Levy, a New Yorker staff writer, is the author of The Rules Do Not Apply.

“I don’t believe in ‘would this’ and ‘would that.’ There’s no ‘everything happens for a reason.’ Everything happens, and then you just fucking deal. I mean we could play that game with everything, but time only moves in one direction. That’s a bad game. You shouldn’t play that game—you’ll break your own heart.”

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@avlskies ariellevy.net Levy on Longform [00:45] The Front Row [01:00] Outside the Box [02:15] Levy’s New Yorker archive [02:30] Ariel Levy on the Longform Podcast [02:30] The Rules Do Not Apply: A Memoir (Random House • 2017) [13:00] Female Chauvinist Pigs: Women and the Rise of Raunch Culture (Free Press • 2005) [20:00] Fan Club [24:15] "Thanksgiving in Mongolia" (New Yorker • Nov 2013) [25:30] "Trial by Twitter" (New Yorker • Aug 2013) [25:30] "The Perfect Wife" (New Yorker • Sep 2013) [25:45] "Breaking the Waves" (New Yorker • Feb 2014) [25:45] "Living-Room Leopards" (New Yorker • May 2013)

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Episode 246: Jeffrey Gettleman  

Jeffrey Gettleman is the East Africa Bureau Chief for the New York Times and the author of Love, Africa: A Memoir of Romance, War, and Survival.

“I’m not an adventure-seeking adrenaline junky. I like to explore new worlds, but I’m not one of these chain-smoking, hard-drinking, partying types that just wants thrills all the time. And unfortunately that’s an aspect of the job. And as I get older and I’ve been through more and more, the question gets louder. Which is: Why do you keep doing this? Because you feel like you only have so many points, and eventually the points are going to run out.”

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@gettleman Gettleman on Longform [01:15] Gettleman’s Archive at The New York Times [01:30] Gettleman’s Pulitzer Prize-winning work [01:30] Love, Africa: A Memoir of Romance, War, and Survival (Harper • 2017) [08:30] Tampa Bay Times (Previously St. Petersburg Times) [11:30] Fan Club [12:30] The Front Row [18:00] "Into the Heart of Falluja" (New York Times Magazine • May 2004) [22:00] "The World’s Worst War" (New York Times • Dec 2012) [30:00] "Rape Epidemic Raises Trauma of Congo War" (New York Times • Oct 2007) [30:30] "Elephants Dying in Epic Frenzy as Ivory Fuels Wars and Profits" (New York Times • Sep 2012) [35:45] Heart of Darkness (Joseph Conrad • Dover Publications • 1990) [38:45] "Ominous Signs, Then a Cruel Attack" (New York Times • Sep 2013) [45:45] "Jeffrey Gettleman’s World of War" (Jack Shafer • Slate • Mar 2009)

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Episode 245: Rafe Bartholomew  

Rafe Bartholomew is the former features editor at Grantland and the author of Two and Two: McSorley’s, My Dad, and Me.

“I never saw it as something negative because [my dad] comes out, to me, at the end, extremely heroic. … He becomes this dad who I idolized as a bartender, a guy who would hang out with me and make me laugh, a guy I just adored almost every step of the way. I mean, of course, everybody gets into fights. But to me it was always so obvious that he had overcome the problems in his childhood, he’d overcome his own drinking problem, he’d done all these things, and by the time I was older, he’d even found a way to get back into writing and self-publish a couple of books of poems about the bar. So he’s sort of managed to tick off all those goals, just maybe not on the same schedule, maybe not in the most normal way.”

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@Rafeboogs rafebartholomew.com Bartholomew on Longform Pacific Rims: Beermen Ballin’ in Flip-Flops and the Philippines’ Unlikely Love Affair with Basketball (Berkley • 2011) Bartholomew’s Archive at Grantland Two and Two: McSorley’s, My Dad, and Me (Little, Brown & Company • 2017) "The Old House at Home" (Joseph Mitchell • New Yorker • Apr 1940) [3:45] Bartholomew’s Archive at Harper’s [22:00] The Last Shot: City Streets, Basketball Dreams (Darcy Frey • Mariner Books • 2013) [22:00] Swee’ Pea: The Story of Lloyd Daniels and Other Playground Basketball Legends (John Valenti • Atria • 2016) [29:00] Coverage of Grantland at Deadspin [29:30] "The Legend of the Iron Five" (Chuck Klosterman • Grantland • Jun 2011) [24:11] "Press X for Beer Bottle: On L.A. Noire" (Tom Bissell • Grantland • Jun 2011) [37:10] "Mayweather-Pacquiao: A Sad Morning in Manila" (Grantland • May 2015) [38:30] "One Hundred Years of Arm Bars" (David Samuels • Grantland • Aug 2015) [44:30] "Death and Tradition at the U.K. Grand National" (Sam Knight • Grantland • Apr 2013) [45:00] "Dropped" (Jason Fagone • Grantland • Mar 2014)

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Episode 244: Nick Bilton  

Nick Bilton is a special correspondent for Vanity Fair and the author of American Kingpin: The Epic Hunt for the Criminal Mastermind Behind the Silk Road.

“I’ve been covering tech for a long, long time. And the thing I’ve always tried to do is cover the people of the tech culture, not the tech itself. … I've always been interested in the good and bad side of technology. A lot of times the problem in Silicon Valley is that people come up with a good idea that’s supposed to do a good thing—you know, to change the world and make it a better place. And it ends up inevitably having a recourse that they don’t imagine.”

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@nickbilton nickbilton.com Bilton on Longform [00:00] Ponzi Supernova [01:15] American Kingpin: The Epic Hunt for the Criminal Mastermind Behind the Silk Road (Portfolio • 2017) [01:45] Bilton’s New York Times archive [01:45] Bilton’s Vanity Fair archive [01:45] Hatching Twitter: A True Story of Money, Power, Friendship, and Betrayal (Portfolio • 2014) [07:30] "The Underground Website Where You Can Buy Any Drug Imaginable" (Adrian Chen • Gawker • Jun 2011) [07:30] Adrian Chen’s first appearance on the Longform Podcast [07:30] Adrian Chen’s second appearance on the Longform Podcast [09:15] NYC Resistor [11:45] "Uber’s C.E.O. Plays With Fire" (Mike Isaac • New York Times • Apr 2017) [16:00] Fan Club [21:30] Bits, New York Times technology blog [21:45] Gizmodo [23:00] Bill Keller’s New York Times archive [23:00] John Markoff’s New York Times archive [25:45] "The iEconomy" series [27:30] "How the Kindle Moved From BlackBerry to iPad" (New York Times • Sep 2011) [29:45] "Disruptions: Fliers Must Turn Off Devices, but It’s Not Clear Why" (New York Times • Nov 2011) [50:45] "Meet the Dread Pirate Roberts, The Man Behind Booming Black Market Drug Website Silk Road" (Andy Greenberg • Forbes • Sep 2013) [50:45] "Silk Road Creator Ross Ulbricht Sentenced to Life in Prison" (Andy Greenberg • Wired • May 2015) [50:45] "The Rise & Fall of Silk Road Part I" (Joshuah Bearman • Wired • Apr 2015) [50:45] "The Rise & Fall of Silk Road Part II" (Joshuah Bearman • Wired • May 2015) [51:00] "Exclusive: How Elizabeth Holmes’s House of Cards Came Tumbling Down" (Vanity Fair • Oct 2016) [52:00] "‘It’s An Honor’" (Jimmy Breslin • New York Herald Tribune • Nov 1963)

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Episode 243: Samin Nosrat  

Samin Nosrat is a food writer, educator, and chef. Her new book is Salt, Fat, Acid, Heat: Mastering the Elements of Good Cooking.

“I kind of couldn’t exist as just a cook or a writer. I kind of need to be both. Because they fulfill these two totally different parts of myself and my brain. Cooking is really social, it’s very physical, and also you don’t have any time to become attached to your product. You hand it off and somebody eats it, and literally tomorrow it’s shit. … Whereas with writing, it’s the exact opposite. It’s super solitary. It’s super cerebral. And you have all the time in the world to get attached to your thing and freak out about it.”

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@CiaoSamin ciaosamin.com [01:45] Chez Panisse [02:00] Salt, Fat, Acid, Heat: Mastering the Elements of Good Cooking (Simon & Schuster • 2017) [03:30] Pop-Up Magazine [27:45] Cooked: A Natural History of Transformation (Michael Pollan • Penguin Books • 2014) [30:00] Nosrat’s Archive at Edible [30:45] "Out of the Kitchen, Onto the Couch" (Michael Pollan • New York Times Magazine • Jul 2009) [34:00] Wendy MacNaughton on the Longform Podcast [37:45] An Everlasting Meal: Cooking with Economy and Grace (Tamar Adler • Scribner • 2012) [39:15] Levels of the Game (John McPhee • Farrar, Straus and Giroux • 1979) [52:15] Outliers: The Story of Success (Malcolm Gladwell • Back Bay Books • 2011) [54:30] Golden Boy Pizza [55:30] "Cookbook Author Samin Nosrat Celebrates with Champagne and Babybels" (Sierra Tishgart • Grub Street • Apr 2017) [57:00] Salt Sugar Fat: How the Food Giants Hooked Us (Michael Moss • Random House • 2014)

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