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Exclusive news and analysis on the things that matter from the voices of Australia's social sector


Green Nation: Reimagining Climate Change  

When it comes to climate change action, looking to the next century, while essential, is difficult to do. But in this episode of Not for Podcast we envision a green future and find out what it will take to get there.

Short-termism is one of the biggest barriers to overcome in the fight against climate change, given that electoral terms only last several years, corporations are driven by short-term profit, and society is increasingly focused on the here and now.

But climate scientists warn that failure to act immediately - and radically - with a long-term vision is allowing the future impacts of climate change to compound.

In the third and final episode of Green Nation, Reimagining Climate Change, we speak to experts thinking beyond this century and ask, what will the world look like in the future?  

Featured in this episode:

Dr Pep Canadell, executive director of the Global Carbon Project and CSIRO research scientist Tom Quinn, executive director of the Future Business Council Dr Bonnie McBain, tutor in sustainability science at the University of Newcastle Damon Gameau, award-winning director now working on a new science-fiction documentary, 2040.

Produced by Ellie Cooper and Wendy Williams.

Green Nation: People Power  

Halting climate change sounds like an insurmountable task, but solutions are emerging everywhere.

Renewable energies, such as wind and solar, are being installed at a record rate and are more affordable than ever.

Rural towns are in a race to become the first zero-emission community.

Not-for-profit organisations, social enterprises and cooperatives are supporting everyday Australians to find and fund their own solutions.

In People Power, the second episode of the three-part Green Nation series, Not for Podcast explores the initiatives behind this movement for change.

Featured in this episode:

Alicia Webb, Clean Energy Council director of large-scale energy Richard Lovell, Clean Energy Finance Corporation head of corporate and project finance Dan Musil, Earthworker Cooperative secretary   Emlyn Keane, Evergen director of operations Tosh Szatow, Energy for the People director

Produced by Ellie Cooper and Wendy Williams.

Green Nation: The Fight Against Climate Change  

Climate change has been described as the most difficult problem human society has ever faced. But in the face of influential vested interests and governments that seem slow to respond, the social sector plays a vital role.

Global warming is happening now from the bleaching of the Great Barrier Reef to bushfires to the mega-storm that caused a blackout across South Australia.

Leading scientists say there is no time to waste in saving the planet.

But Australia’s carbon footprint is anything but insignificant. We’re the world’s largest coal exporter, one of the world’s largest greenhouse gas emitters, and the largest emitter per person of any country in the developed world.

In The Fight Against Climate Change, the first episode of the Green Nation three-part series, Not for Podcast investigates the importance of civil society in agitating for change.

Featured in this episode:

Professor Will Steffen, climate change expert and researcher at the ANU, and a councilor at the Climate Council of Australia Anika Molesworth, a farmer and climate change advocate currently undertaking a PhD in sustainable agriculture Sara Bice, socio-political commentator from the University of Melbourne Victoria McKenzie-McHarg, Australian Conservation Foundation climate change campaign manager, and the director of the board for the Climate Action Network Australia Adam Black, senior campaigner on the Environmental Justice team for Get Up.

Produced by Ellie Cooper and Wendy Williams.

Australia’s True Colours: Our Shared Culture  

For those who've come across the seas, we've boundless plains to shareor so says our national anthem. But what really happens after migrants and refugees arrive in Australia?

Australia is one of the most multicultural nations on earth, but a major survey found, despite widely shared values, many people struggle to feel accepted within mainstream society.

The survey, called Australians Today from the Scanlon Foundation, is the largest survey ever undertaken of those born in Australia and immigrants.

The highest levels of discrimination were reported by those born overseas and of non-English-speaking background.

And while the majority of Australians support immigration, 40 per cent consider it too high.

This is despite psychologists and scientists finding integration actually strengthens national culture.

In the final episode of Australia’s True Colours, Not for Podcast investigates integration at home and overseas, to find out how we can thrive as a multicultural country.

Featured in this episode: 

Laurie Nowell, spokesperson for AMES Australia, Nick Cater, executive director of Menzies Research Centre Des Cahill, professor of intercultural studies in the school of global, urban and social studies at RMIT Keysar Trad, president of the Australian Federation Islamic Councils Kim Bullimore, Indigenous political activist and anti-racism campaigner.

Produced by Ellie Cooper and Wendy Williams. 

Australia's True Colours: On the Borderline  

Contemporary Australia is the product of multiple waves of immigration, but now anti-immigration sentiment is on the rise.

Today, almost half of Australians have a parent born overseas and more than a quarter of the population were born overseas themselves.

In a recent speech, Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull said every Australian benefited from the diversity that is at the heart of the nation.

But a look back at Australia’s history shows that our immigration policy has not always been so welcoming.

Policies of multiculturalism are mixed up with those giving clear, preferential treatment to some nations over others.

Now a new wave of Islamophobia is rising, with anti-immigration political parties like One Nation Party, once confined to the margins, garnering support.

In the second episode in a three-part series, Australia’s True Colours, Not for Podcast investigates how racist ideology can infiltrate the immigration debate, right through to our policies

Featured in this episode:

Khanh Hoang, associate professor at the ANU Migration Law Program Andrew Jakubowicz, professor of sociology at the University of Technology Sydney. Brian Burston, One Nation Senator   Shayne Neumann MP, shadow minister for immigration

Produced by Ellie Cooper and Wendy Williams.  

Australia's True Colours: What Is Racism?  

In a striking contradiction, Australia is held up the world over as both a shining example of a multicultural success story and as a nation that is racist and hostile to immigrants.

Australia’s racism has roots in its history of colonisation and migration, and, until recent years, racist policies and practices were embedded within Australian laws and institutions, and the debate has become tied up with national identity.

In the first episode in a three-part series, Australia’s True Colours, Not for Podcast investigates  what racism is and where it comes from to ultimately find out, is Australia racist?

Featured in this episode:

Albert Atkin, author of the Philosophy of Race Neil Levi, senior researcher at the Uehiro Centre for Practical Ethics at Oxford University Priscilla Brice, founder and managing director of All Together Now, Australia’s only national racism prevention charity Kevin Dunn, the dean of the School of Social Science and Psychology at Western Sydney University.

Produced by Ellie Cooper and Wendy Williams.  

Revenge Porn Exposed  

Jurisdictions across the country are slowly cracking down on revenge porn – a form of online sexual abuse which affects as many as one in 10 Australians. But is it being taken seriously enough?

Revenge porn is the publication of explicit material portraying someone who has not consented for the image or video to be shared.

It’s fast becoming an entrenched part of our culture of sex and relationships and can leave victims feeling violated and ashamed.

Until recently there has been little or no support from the justice system. And once material is out there, it is near impossible to get it back.

Only South Australia and Victoria have have made it an offence, but a raft of new legislation is being introduced across the country to criminalise cyber stalking and revenge porn and bring the laws into the digital age.

On Sunday, Western Australia became the fourth state to join the national crackdown, following an announcement the week before from New South Wales. But many have said there should be a federal response to the issue.

This episode of Not for Podcast Revenge Porn Exposed questions what is revenge porn, why is it so devastating, and what Australian law and society needs to do about it.

Download the transcript here.

Featured in this episode:

Sue Gabor, project manager on the eSafetyWomen initiative from the Office of the Children’s eSafety Commissioner Katherine McLachlan, quality and research manager at Victim Support Service Nicola Henry, senior lecturer in legal studies at La Trobe University and chief investigator on a criminology research grant examining revenge pornography in Australia Shane Rattenbury from the Greens and the ACT’s Minister for Justice Katie Acheson, CEO of Youth Action Mary Barry, CEO of Our Watch

Produced by Ellie Cooper and Wendy Williams.

If you or someone you know is impacted by sexual assault, family violence or domestic violence, call 1800RESPECT on 1800 737 732 or visit

Discrediting Online Gambling  

Australians are the biggest gamblers in the world, losing more money per adult on gambling than any other developed country.

The average loss for each Australian who gambled was $1,500, according to a government inquiry in 2010.

It also found the costs to problem gamblers ranged from $4.7 billion to $8.4 billion, and the number of Australians categorised as “problem gamblers” was around 115,000.

Digital technology is making the problem worse, and online gambling is now a booming industry, with offshore outlets circumventing Australian law.

Compounding the problem are banks that allow Australians to use their credit cards to fund online gambling activities, meaning people can spend far more money than they can afford, leading to unsustainable debt, financial insecurity and a range of social issues.

In this episode of Not for Podcast, special contributor Rachel Alembakis, founder and publisher of The Sustainability Report, follows a group of responsible investors, consumer rights advocates and financial counsellors who are campaigning to get the major banks to cut the credit.

Download the transcript here.

Members from the group featured in this episode:

Zac Gillam, senior policy officer, Consumer Action Law Centre Michael Walsh, CEO, UCA funds management Tim Starke, portfolio manager, UCA funds management Mark Zirnsak, director, justice and international mission, the Uniting Church of Australia's Synod of Victoria and Tasmania Lauren Levin, the director, policy and campaigns, Financial Counselling Australia

Produced by Ellie Cooper.

The Purpose of Plebiscite  

In this episode of Not for Podcast, Pro Bono Australia investigates whether the question of same-sex marriage should be put to the people or go straight to Parliament.

The Abbott government first committed to a plebiscite on same-sex marriage a year ago, and Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull was firm on the issue in his election campaign.

It’s now been pushed back to next year, and many groups are determined to take it off the table all together.

It’s going to be expensive, with estimated costs of $160 million, and many people fear it could be divisive, leading to a hate campaign.

Another sticking point is the non-binding result, meaning politicians will be free to disregard public opinion and stick to their own.

Yet, many feel all Australians should be given a chance to have their say.

In Purpose of Plebiscite, academics, politicians and advocates debate the issue, while a mental health expert explains the impact on the LGBTI community.

Download the transcript here.

Featured in this episode:

Dr Ryan Goss senior  law lecturer at the Australian National University Labor Senator Lisa Singh Liberal Senator Eric Abetz Australian Marriage Equality national spokesperson Dr Shirleene Robinson Parents, Families and Friends of Lesbians and Gays national spokesperson Shelley Argent Australian Christian Lobby managing director Lyle Shelton Q-Life national clinical director Ross Jacobs

Produced by Ellie Cooper and Wendy Williams.

The New NDIS Players  

The National Disability Insurance Scheme is worth $22 billion a year and it’s estimated it will create a $16 billion contestable market, providing a huge business opportunity for new service providers.

The National Disability Insurance Agency told Pro Bono Australia News in the months before the 1 July rollout, the number of registered providers grew by more than 1,000, bringing the total number to more than 3,500.

There are rumours that large corporations like Bupa and Serco are circling the wagons, experts have said there is an influx of sole traders leaving the Not for Profits they work for and the scheme is touted as a golden opportunity for innovative, social start-ups.

But how much is known about the new providers? Are they driven by profit or purpose? What regulations are in place? And how well will the NDIS market give people with disability choice and control? 

In the final episode of the three-part series, Not for Podcast investigates The New NDIS Players.

Download the transcript here.

Featured in this episode:

Jovita Gartlan, partner in Deloitte’s consulting practice, specialising in business model transformation Professor David Gilchrist, director of Curtin University’s School of Accounting Not-for-profit Initiative Fran Connelley, founder and CEO of FC Marketing and author of How to Thrive Under the NDIS Aimee McLeod-Taylor, sole trader and founder of Aim High Nutrition Prue Hughes, sole trader, and founder and director of Turning Point Jordan O'Reilly, founder and CEO of HireUp El Gibbs, freelance journalist who writes about disability from a personal and policy perspective.

Produced by Ellie Cooper and Wendy Williams.

Who’s Missing Out on the NDIS?  

On 1 July the nation-wide rollout of the National Disability Insurance Scheme began. By the time it’s fully implemented in 2019 it’s estimated 460,000 people with disability will receive a support package.

The $22-billion-per-year scheme, twice the size of the previous system, has been largely welcomed by the disability sector, promising more support for more people. 

But not all Australians with disability will benefit – some will be eligible but won’t receive the support they are entitled to, while others simply aren’t covered despite having “significant and ongoing support needs”.

In the second episode of a three-part series, Not for Podcast investigates Who’s Missing Out on the NDIS?

Download the transcript here.

Featured in this episode:

Professor Karen Fisher, from the Social Policy Research Centre at the University of New South Wales Damian Griffis, CEO of First Peoples Disability Network. Laura Collister, director of Mental Health Services, Research and Development at MI Fellowship Sarah Saunders, chief advocate at National Seniors Australia Patrick Walden, 27-year-old, full-time secondary teacher with cerebral palsy based on the Sunshine Coast Maryanne Diamond, general manager of media, communications and engagement at the National Disability Insurance Agency.

Produced by Ellie Cooper and Wendy Williams.

Is Disability NDIS Ready?  

Ready or not, the National Disability Insurance Scheme was rolled out nationwide on 1 July.

The $22 billion per year scheme – which doubles the level of public funding for disability – is Australia’s biggest social policy project since Medicare.

It promises to put people with disability in the driver’s seat by offering more choice and control, and it’s been widely welcomed by the sector.

But transitioning to a new system is not without teething problems, both for service providers and people with disability.

Can Not for Profits stand out in a competitive market? Do people with disability know their rights? How do they navigate the system? And can the national agency overseeing the system cope with the mammoth task?

In the first episode of a three-part series, Not for Podcast investigates whether the sector is NDIS ready.

Download the transcript here.

Featured in this episode:

Natasha Hudson, CEO and founder of Coforte Consulting, assisting organisations to become NDIS ready Liz Forsyth, general manager of customer experience at Northcott NDIS participant Zane McKenzie, public speaker and educator both independently and for Not for Profit Scope Craig Wallace, president of People With Disability Australia

Produced by Ellie Cooper and Wendy Williams.

Australia’s Affordable Housing Solution  

The impact of Australia’s lack of affordable housing is far reaching – low-income earners are being pushed to the fringes of cities, with some households paying up to 85 per cent of their income on rent.

But according to experts, solving the affordable housing crisis is beyond the scope of governments alone.

In this episode of Not for Podcast, special contributor Rachel Alembakis, founder and publisher of The Sustainability Report, partnered with Pro Bono Australia News to investigate the challenges and opportunities for developing affordable housing.

Leveraging private capital, including that of Australia’s $1.3 trillion superannuation industry, could unlock significant investment in the sector.

But it requires collaboration between businesses, community organisations and governments.

This episode features affordable housing experts and field practitioners:

Mark Peacock, director of impact investing at Social Ventures Australia. Wendy Hayhurst, CEO of  the New South Wales Federation of Housing Associations. Debby Blakey, CEO of superannuation fund HESTA. Jamie Muchall, business development manager at Horizon Housing.

Produced by Ellie Cooper.

Federal Election: Social Sector Must Speak Out  

Australia’s election campaign is in full swing and already some organisations are mobilising, calling for commitments from all sides of politics on a wide range of social issues.

But how can the Not for Profit sector, as a whole, have its voice heard and have an impact?    

Australia’s Not for Profit sector must speak with a collective voice and push the election agenda if it’s to have an impact in the federal election outcome, according to socio-political experts in Pro Bono Australia’s latest podcast.

In this episode, Pro Bono Australia editor Lina Caneva speaks to academics Dr Sara Bice, a research fellow at the Melbourne School of Government, and Professor Keith McVilly, from the University of Melbourne's School of Social and Political Sciences, about the federal election "hot topics" affecting the Not for Profit sector.

Produced by Ellie Cooper. 

Budget 2016: The Fine Print  

Despite being sold as the “fairness” budget, Not for Profit leaders have said that vulnerable Australians could be unfairly impacted by “harsh” measures.

Treasurer Scott Morrison made little mention of social services funding in the federal budget address on Tuesday night, so Pro Bono Australia News sought out sector experts who went over the fine-print in the budget papers.

In the latest episode of Not for Podcast, a broad cross-section of sector experts explain how the budget will impact Not for Profits.

Hear from sector experts:

Australian Institute of Company Directors chief economist Stephen Walters ACOSS CEO Cassandra Goldie Mission Australia CEO Catherine Yeomans Volunteering Australia CEO Brett Williamson World Vision Australia CEO Tim Costello Social Ventures Australia CEO Rob Koczkar

 Produced by Ellie Cooper and Eisha Gupta. 

Federal Budget: The Not for Profit Wishlist  

On 3 May the federal government will deliver its budget one of the most important announcements of the year with the government revealing, in monetary terms, where its support lies.

For the charity and Not for Profit sector, from housing to foreign aid and volunteering to youth affairs, budget measures can influence which services are delivered to those in need.

Ahead of the budget, Pro Bono Australia News sought out key leaders in the sector to give them a platform to voice their demands.  

Will charities be included in bigger policy discussions? Will the sector have the certainty of long-term funding models? And will there be stronger support for the ACNC?

Hear from NFP executives:

Community Council for Australia CEO David Crosbie ACOSS CEO Cassandra Goldie GetUp! senior campaigner Daney Faddoul National Shelter executive officer Adrian Pisarski Mission Australia CEO Catherine Yeomans Volunteering Australia CEO Brett Williamson World Vision Australia CEO Tim Costello.

Produced by Ellie Cooper and Eisha Gupta. 

The Royal Commission: A View From the Inside  

This week Australia’s first Royal Commission into Family Violence handed down 227 recommendations in what has been called a watershed moment for the fight against family violence, and Victorian Premier Daniel Andrews has promised to implement every single one.

But what will these changes mean for the Not for Profit sector and service providers working on the ground with the victims and perpetrators of family violence? 

In this episode of Not for Podcast, Pro Bono Australia shares a view from the inside. Not for Profit leaders and policy experts who were in the official report launch “lockup” share their insights about how the Royal Commission’s recommendations are likely to play out.

Produced by Ellie Cooper and Xavier Smerdon. 

Walking the Talk on Diversity  

The Not for Profit sector is at the forefront of supporting and advocating for diverse groups, But how well do organisations embrace diversity within their own ranks?

It’s easy to assume that the sector is ahead of the pack, but Pro Bono Australia News has been given access to exclusive data that shows there’s room for improvement.

Professor Carol Kulik, from the University of South Australia Business School, provided access to her unpublished data. She conducted a “diversity audit” of 800 organisations across Australia, with 20 per cent from the public and Not for Profit sectors.

“There’s much more of a ‘well it’s just the right thing to do, we care about these issues’... whereas in the private sector we’re much more likely to see economic arguments, a business case argument… ‘it’s going to make us more profitable, it’s going to make us more innovative’, and we don’t see those arguments quite as much in the Not for Profit sector,” Professor Kulik said.

Hear from the voices of the social sector to find out how well Indigenous Australians, people with disability, the LGBTI community, and migrants and refugees are embraced by the social sector.  

Produced by Ellie Cooper and Savannah Holliday. 

The Millennial Boom  

Millennials, or Generation Y, have been described as lazy, narcissistic, entitled and apathetic. If the stereotype is true, what will it mean for the social sector – populated by people who want to make a difference – as this same generation begins to hold positions of influence?  

Young Australians of the Year Nic Marchesi and Lucas Patchett, Greens State MP for Melbourne Ellen Sandell, and CEO of Oaktree Chris Wallace share their inspiring stories and provide insights about their generation.   

Produced by Ellie Cooper and Xavier Smerdon.

The Generation Gap  

How far does the apple fall from the tree? In the first episode of Not for Podcast, hear from father-son duo Tim and Elliot Costello. They’re both Not for Profit leaders but the way they run their charities is vastly different.

Tim Costello has been CEO one of the country’s most illustrious charities, World Vision Australia, for the past 10 years. When he was in his twenties Elliot Costello founded YGAP, ditching traditional fundraising models in favor of social enterprise.

Interviewed together for the first time, the Costellos joined journalist Xavier Smerdon in studio to discuss the landscape of Australia’s social sector, family ties and what the year has in store.

Produced by Ellie Cooper.

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