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  • Summary
    Mark Stout (X; LinkedIn) joins Andrew (X; LinkedIn) to discuss his new book, World War I and the Foundations of American Intelligence. Mark Stout is a former intelligence analyst and former SPY Historian. 

    What You’ll Learn
    Intelligence

    The first American intelligence “agencies”

    Codebreaking during WWI

    The American Protective League and spy paranoia 

    WWI’s effect on American culture and politics

    Reflections

    Challenging common historical thought 

    Studying the “forgotten” wars 

    And much, much more …

    Quotes of the Week
    “[After World War I] there will never be a time again when the United States won't have squadrons in the Army Air Corps, later the U. S. Air Force, and similarly the Navy. We would never again be without aerial reconnaissance squadrons. There would never again be a time when the United States didn't have at least one code-breaking organization.” – Mark Stout.

    Resources 
    SURFACE SKIM
    *Spotlight Resource* 

    World War I and the Foundations of American Intelligence, Mark Stout (University Press of Kansas, 2023) 
    *SpyCasts*


    Rise of Devils: The Origins of Modern Terrorism with James Crossland (2024)


    Spies: The Epic Intelligence War Between East vs. West with Calder Walton (2023)


    The Lion and the Fox – Civil War Spy vs. Spy with Alexander Rose (2023) 


    The Birth of American Propaganda – A Conversation on Manipulating the Masses with John Hamilton (2021)

    *Beginner Resources*


    World War I, Explained in 5 Minutes! YouTube (2023) [5 min. video]


    The Journey of the Intelligence Community, M. Thomas, Office of the Director of National Intelligence (2023) [Timeline of the US IC]


    The United States in the First World War, National Park Service (2021) [Short article]

    DEEPER DIVE
    Books


    Manipulating the Masses: Woodrow Wilson and the Birth of American Propaganda, J. M. Hamilton (LSU Press, 2020)


    Codes, Ciphers and Spies: Tales of Military Intelligence in World War I, J. F. Dooley (Copernicus, 2016)


    The Zimmermann Telegram: Intelligence, Diplomacy, and America's Entry into World War I, T. Boghardt (Naval Institute Press, 2012) 

    Primary Sources 


    Treaty of Versailles (1919)


    Woodrow Wilson’s Fourteen Points Speech (1918)


    Telegram Announcing Armistice (1918)


    Sedition Act (1918)


    The Zimmermann Telegram (1917)


    Espionage Act (1917) 


    Woodrow Wilson Third Annual Message, Warns of Espionage (1915) 

    *Wildcard Resource*


    12 Step Method to Reveal Secret Writing (ca. 1913-1924) 

    Germany was particularly fond of invisible ink as a tactic of spycraft during World War I. If you came across a document suspected of secret writing, you might use these 12 steps to reveal the hidden message …  


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  • SummaryAndrew Hampton joins Andrew (X; LinkedIn) to discuss intelligence in New Zealand. Andrew is the Director General of the New Zealand Security Intelligence Service. What You’ll LearnIntelligenceThe New Zealand Intelligence CommunityHow geography effects national securityThe lasting impact of the Christchurch Mosque attacksNew Zealand’s relationship with ChinaReflections The power of community organizationThe nuanced nature of global politicsAnd much, much more 
Quotes of the Week“I think for a long time there was a view that our geographical isolation protected us from a range of national security threats. But unfortunately, in the current world, geostrategic competition is playing out in our region. Going back to my old role, you’re only one click away from a cyber-attack 
 This and misinformation and violent extremism are permeating the whole world. ” – Andrew Hampton.Resources SURFACE SKIM*SpyCasts*CIA Director, Defense Secretary, Gentleman with Leon Panetta (2024)Australian National Day Special: Intelligence Down Under with John Blaxland (2024) SPY CHIEFS: Director-General of Security Mike Burgess - ASIO, Australia & America (2022)Keeping Secrets/Disclosing Secrets with Spy Chief turned DG of Australia’s National Archives David Fricker (2022)*Beginner Resources*What Is The Five Eyes Alliance? K. Haan, Forbes [Short Article]A Brief History of New Zealand, Live and Work New Zealand (2022) [Short article]Why Isn't New Zealand a Part of Australia? History Matters, YouTube (2020) [3 min. video]DEEPER DIVEBooksVoyagers: The Settlement of the Pacific, Nicholas Thomas (Basic Books, 2021) Pacific Century: The Emergence of Modern Pacific Asia, Mark Borthwick (Routledge, 2013)The Penguin History of New Zealand, Michael King (Penguin Books, 2003) Primary Sources He Whakaputanga o te Rangatiratanga o Nu Tireni – the Declaration of Independence of the United Tribes of New Zealand (1835)Te Tiriti o Waitangi — the Treaty of Waitangi (1840) New Zealand Security Intelligence Service Act (1969) Intelligence and Security Committee Act (1996) Inspector-General of Intelligence and Security Act (1996)Government Communications Security Bureau Act (2003) Intelligence and Security Act (2017)*Wildcard Resource*The Women’s Suffrage Petition - Te Petihana Whakamana Pƍti WahineIn 1893, this document gave all women in New Zealand the right to vote in general elections – Making New Zealand the first country in the world to enact universal women’s suffrage!Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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  • SummaryDavid Oranchak (X, LinkedIn) joins Andrew (X; LinkedIn) to discuss his work helping to solve the 340 Zodiac cipher. Dave is a software developer and avid puzzle solver. What You’ll LearnIntelligenceThe difference between codes and ciphersThe cryptological methods used by the Zodiac killer The history of cryptography and its importance to intelligenceHow Dave and his team cracked the 340 CipherReflections Persistence and dedicationAverage citizens as avid participants And much, much more 
Quotes of the Week“It felt like we had gotten a brand new letter from the Zodiac Killer. You know, the case had been dormant for so long 
 We started to see the message coming through, it was like he was back to life so to speak, he was talking to us again after so many years of not saying anything. So that was kind of eerie to kind of hear the voice of a serial killer.” – David Oranchak.Resources SURFACE SKIM*SpyCasts*My Father the Navajo Code-Talker with Laura Tohe (2023) Venice’s Secret Service with Ioanna Iordanou (2023) El Chapo, the Sinaloa Cartel & Intelligence with Trial Reporter Noah Hurowitz (2022) CYBER AUGUST: “So, You Want to Be a Codebreaker?” with Elonka Dunin and Klaus Schmeh (2021) *Beginner Resources*A brief history of cryptography: Sending secret messages throughout time, J. Schneider, IBM (2024) [Short article]What is the Difference Between a Code and a Cipher? Mysterious Writings (2018) [Short Article]Infamous Killers: The Zodiac Killer, A&E, YouTube (2017) [5 min. video]DEEPER DIVEBooksZodiac: The Shocking True Story of the Hunt for the Nation's Most Elusive Serial Killer, R. Graysmith (Berkley, 2007) The Code Book: The Science of Secrecy from Ancient Egypt to Quantum Cryptography, S. Singh (Anchor, 2000)The Codebreakers: The Comprehensive History of Secret Communication from Ancient Times to the Internet, D. Kahn (Scribner, 1996) Primary Sources The Zodiac Killer FBI Case File (1969) San Francisco Zodiac Letter (1969) San Francisco Suspect Sketches (1969)Zodiac’s 408 Cipher (1969) Zodiac’s 340 Cipher (1969) The Beale Papers (1885)The Dorabella Cipher (1897)Voynich Manuscript (ca. 1401-1599) *Wildcard Resource*If you’re an amateur codebreaker and you feel inspired by this episode, try your hand at cryptanalysis with this FBI-created dot code. Erin tried, but could not begin to crack it – She’ll stick to podcasting. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

  • SummaryMark Edlitz (X, LinkedIn) joins Andrew (X; LinkedIn) to discuss how James Bond lived on in literature after the death of Ian Fleming. Mark is an author and pop culture expert. What You’ll LearnIntelligenceThe original Fleming novelsIntellectual property and author’s rights to iconic charactersThe evolution of Bond as a literary character The relationship between the Bond books and the Bond moviesReflections Can icons ever truly die?Just how malleable are our favorite characters?And much, much more 
Resources SURFACE SKIM*Spotlight Resource*James Bond After Fleming: The Continuation Novels, Mark Edlitz (2023)*SpyCasts*The James Bond Collector with Mike VanBlaricum (2024)70th Anniversary of James Bond, Special with Alexis Albion on 007, Part 1 of 2 (2023)70th Anniversary of James Bond, Special with Alexis Albion on 007, Part 2 of 2 (2023)My Life Looking at Spies and the Media with Paul Lashmar (2022)*Beginner Resources*James Bond Books: The Continuation Novels, D. Leigh, The James Bond Dossier (2024) [Short biographies of each continuation author]Ian Fleming – Life Story, Short Biographies, YouTube (2023) [8 min. video]Can I do a sequel to someone else's book or movie? Miller IP Law (n.d.) [Short article]DEEPER DIVEBooksBond, James Bond: Exploring the Shaken and Stirred History of Ian Fleming’s 007, B. Gilmore & M. Kalinowski (Mango, 2022)The Many Lives of James Bond: How the Creators of 007 Have Decoded the Superspy, M. Edlitz (Lyons Press, 2019)James Bond: The Evolution of the World's Most Famous Spy, A. Geiger (CompanionHouse Books, 2016) Primary Sources An Interview with Raymond Benson (2023)License Renewed: Interview with John Gardner (1994)Gardner Assumes Ian Fleming's Pen To Keep James Bond Alive (1988)An Interview with Kingsley Amis (1975) Allen Dulles and Ian Fleming (1964) Books of the Times (1963) *Wildcard Resource*James Bond is a fantastically well-known character, but he is not technically in the public domain. Characters that do exist in the public domain include Count Dracula, Frankenstein’s Monster, Sherlock Holmes, and Robin Hood. Studying the origins of these characters is fascinating. Take Robin Hood, for example – The first written mention of the heroic outlaw comes from the poem “The Vision of Piers Plowman” by William Langland, written in 1380. That’s 593 years before Disney’s classic adaptation of the story! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

  • SummaryMark Zaid (X, LinkedIn) joins Andrew (X; LinkedIn) to discuss American intelligence and the law. You’ve heard of a “lawyer to the stars,” Mark is the “lawyer to the spies”What You’ll LearnIntelligenceThe quirks of being a lawyer in this spaceHow the Espionage Act works in practice The trial of the RosenbergsThe origins of FOIA and its purposeThe Legal foundations underpinning espionage and intelligenceReflections Challenging authority The delicate balance of secrecyAnd much, much more 
Quotes of the Week“I still love working every day, 30 years later, because there's still something new. As much as I fight for declassification and transparency, I will at times also see information and learn of events where I go, “Oh, I get it. Yeah, that stuff cannot be known. That's incredible what we did. That's pretty wild.” – Mark Zaid.Resources SURFACE SKIM*SpyCasts*Agent of Betrayal, FBI Spy Robert Hanssen with CBS’ Major Garrett and Friends (2023)David Petraeus on Ukraine & Intelligence with the former CIA Director & 4* General (2023)Havana Syndrome – A Panel featuring Nicky Woolf, Marc Polymeropoulos, and Mark Zaid (2023) How Artificial Intelligence is Changing the Spy Game with Mike Susong (2023) *Beginner Resources*What Is a Whistleblower? Protections, Law, Importance, and Example, W. Kenton, Investopedia (2022) [Short article]What is a Lawyer? American Bar Association (2019) [Short article]Legal System Basics, CrashCourse, YouTube (2015) [8 min. video]DEEPER DIVEBooksState of Silence: The Espionage Act and the Rise of America's Secrecy Regime, S. Lebovic (Basic Books, 2023)Ethel Rosenberg, A. Sebba (Griffin, 2022)Spies on Trial: True Tales of Espionage in the Courtroom, C. C. Kuhne (Rowman & Littlefield Publishers, 2019)Primary Sources A Letter from Aldrich Ames on Polygraph Testing (2000)Whistle Blower Protection Act (1989) DoD Polygraph Program (1984)National Security Decision Directive 84 (1983)Inspector General Act (1978)Freedom of Information Act (1966) Administrative Procedure Act (1946) Espionage Act (1917)*Wildcard Resource*John Adams, a 2008 HBO Mini-Series chronicling the Founding Father’s role in early AmericaJohn Adams, much like Mark, was a lawyer dedicated to the right to representation. Adams, ever dedicated to the honor of his profession, was the only attorney who agreed to defend the British soldiers involved in the Boston Massacre. You can read the whole trial here. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

  • SummaryDr. Sara Castro (LinkedIn, Bio) joins Andrew (X; LinkedIn) to discuss the history of US-China diplomacy. Sara is an Associate Professor of History at the United States Air Force Academy. What You’ll LearnIntelligenceThe Dixie Mission The history of US-China relations dating back to the Opium WarsChina’s involvement with the OSS during WWIIHow Mao Zedong & Chiang Kai-shek built modern ChinaReflections Understanding and empathyKnowledge is power And much, much more 
Resources SURFACE SKIM*Spotlight Resource*Mission to Mao: US Intelligence in China during World War II, Sara B. Castro, (Georgetown University Press, 2024) *SpyCasts*Making Sense of China, Taiwan, & America Pacific Intelligence with Bonny Lin (2023)China’s Corporate Spy War with CNBC’s Eamon Javers (2023)Trafficking Data: The Digital Struggle with China with Aynne Kokas (2022)*Beginner Resources*Beyond the Balloon: The Complicated History Behind US-China Relations, Voice of America, YouTube (2023) [8 min. video]China’s Overlooked Role in World War II, C. Klein, The History Channel (2022) [Short article]Secret Agents, Secret Armies: The Short Happy Life of the OSS, The National World War II Museum (2020) [Short article]DEEPER DIVEBooksSpies and Lies: How China's Greatest Covert Operations Fooled the World, A. Joske (Hardie Grant, 2022) The Hundred-Year Marathon: China's Secret Strategy to Replace America as the Global Superpower, M. Pillsbury (St. Martin’s Griffin, 2016) Forgotten Ally: China's World War II, 1937–1945, R. Mitter (Mariner Books, 2013)Primary Sources Dixie Mission Remembered in Beijing (2004)U.S.-PRC Political Negotiations, 1967-1984 (1985)CIA Intelligence Report: Mao’s “Cultural Revolution” (1967)War Report: Office of Strategic Services: Operations in the Field (1949) Madame Chiang Kai-Shek Address to the U.S. House of Representatives (1943)Treaty Of Tianjin (1858)Treaty Of Wangxia (1844) *Wildcard Resource*After the signing of the SACO Treaty in 1942, Chinese spymaster Dai Li took command of the US-China intelligence cooperation during World War II. Six decades later in 2005, Nickelodeon premiered the now immensely popular American anime series Avatar: The Last Airbender. In the series, the elite secret police agency of fictional capital city Ba Sing Se are appropriately named, The Dai Li. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

  • Summary
    Mike VanBlaricum (X; LinkedIn) joins Andrew (X; LinkedIn) to discuss his journey as a James Bond fanatic and collector. Mike is the President of the Ian Fleming Foundation.
    What You’ll Learn
    Intelligence

    How Mike became an obsessive James Bond collector with 10,000 artifacts

    Mike’s favorite Bond cars, movies, and books

    How From Russia with Love was one of John F Kennedy’s favorite books

    Mike’s tips on the best place to start if you want to read the Bond novels

    Reflections

    The passion of a collector

    Pop culture influencing the “real” world

    And much, much more …
    Quotes of the Week
    “I've always been fascinated about the study of creativity. And so, between wanting to understand spy craft and that whole human side as well as creativity, creativity like Fleming – How one person can change popular culture, you know, ultimately, something that came out of his mind can change popular culture is just fascinating to me.” – Mike VanBlaricum
    Resources
    SURFACE SKIM
    *SpyCasts*


    70th Anniversary of James Bond, Special with Alexis Albion on 007, Part 1 of 2 (2023)


    70th Anniversary of James Bond, Special with Alexis Albion on 007, Part 2 of 2 (2023)


    CIA Officers Turned Authors with David McCloskey and James Stejskal (2022)


    My Life Looking at Spies and the Media with Paul Lashmar (2022)

    *Beginner Resources*


    How to Watch All the James Bond 007 Movies in Order, P. Saperstein, Variety (2023) [Short article]


    Bond In Motion Exhibition at the International Spy Museum! International Spy Museum (2024) [2 min. video]


    Ian Fleming Life Timeline, Ian Fleming Publications (n.d.) [Timeline]


    DEEPER DIVE
    Books


    For Your Eyes Only: Ian Fleming + James Bond, B. Macintyre (Bloomsbury USA, 2008)


    Licence to Thrill: A Cultural History of the James Bond Films, J. Chapman (I.B. Tauris, 2008)


    Ian Fleming, A. Lycett (St. Martin’s Press, 1995)

    Primary Sources 


    FBI Targeted a Fictional Spy (1980)


    E. Germany Brands 007 As ‘Fascist’ (1965)


    Memorandum For the Record from Marshall S. Carter (1964)


    Our Spy-Boss Who Loved Bond by Allen Dulles (1964)


    A Spy’s Spy, a Knight vs. Dragon – That Was the Image of James Bond (1964)

    *Wildcard Resource*
    Who’s The Deadliest Bond? Pierce Brosnan – And by a high margin! Brosnan’s 007 had an average of 27 kills per movie. His runner-up, Roger Moore, clocked in an average of 16.6.
    o Read the stats by movie here. License to Kill indeed...
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  • SummaryDr. Ursula Wilder (LinkedIn) joins Andrew (X; LinkedIn) to discuss the intersections between psychology and intelligence. Ursula is a clinical psychologist with over two decades of experience working at the Central Intelligence Agency. What You’ll LearnIntelligenceHow psychology can be useful to national securityHistorical examples of leadership analysis Leadership personality assessments & the Cuban Missile CrisisPsychoanalytic theory and espionage Reflections Human nature throughout historyHistory repeating itself And much, much more 
Quotes of the Week“Together, these documents are quite powerful. The psych assessments are very, very carefully, tightly held and are classified at a high level. Every intelligence officer has this fantasy about seeing the file that's kept on them by the opponents.” – Dr. Ursula Wilder.Resources SURFACE SKIM*SpyCasts*Agent of Betrayal, FBI Spy Robert Hanssen with CBS’ Major Garrett and Friends (2023)The North Korean Defector with Former DPRK Agent Kim, Hyun Woo (2023)SPY@20 – “The Spy of the Century” with Curators Alexis and Andrew on Kim Philby (2022)“How Spies Think” – 10 Lessons in Intelligence with Sir David Omand (2020)*Beginner Resources*What is Psychoanalysis? Institute of Psychoanalysis, YouTube (2011) [3 min. video]Psychologists in the CIA, American Psychological Association (2002) [Short article]7 Reasons to Study Psychology, University of Toronto (n.d.) [Short article]DEEPER DIVEBooksFreud and Beyond, S. A. Mitchell (Basic Books, 2016)Narcissism and Politics: Dreams of Glory, J. M. Post (Cambridge University Press, 2014)The True Believer: Thoughts on the Nature of Mass Movements, E. Hoffer (Harper Perennial Modern Classics, 2010) Team of Rivals: The Political Genius of Abraham Lincoln, D. K. Goodwin (Simon & Schuster, 2004)Leaders, Fools, and Impostors: Essays on the Psychology of Leadership, M. F. R. Kets de Vries (iUniverse, 2003) Primary Sources Charles de Gaulle to Pamela Digby Churchill (1942) Blood, Toil, Tears and Sweat (1940)Memoirs of Ulysses S. Grant (1885)Gettysburg Address (1863) House Divided Speech (1858)Excerpt on Cleopatra from Plutarch's Life of Julius Caesar (ca. 2nd century AD)Plutarch’s The Life of Alexander (ca. 2nd century AD) Appian’s The Civil Wars (ca. 2nd century AD) Virgil’s The Aeneid (19 B.C.E) *Wildcard Resource*On Dreams by Sigmund Freud (1901)In this simplified version of the father of psychoanalysis’ seminal book The Interpretation of Dreams, you can get a small taste for Freudian philosophy. Freud believed that dreams were a reflection of the subconscious mind and that studying a person’s dreams can elucidate their inner wants and needs. What are your dreams telling you? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

  • SummaryDr. Ursula Wilder (LinkedIn) joins Andrew (X; LinkedIn) to discuss the intersections between psychology and intelligence. Ursula is a clinical psychologist with over two decades of experience working at the Central Intelligence Agency. What You’ll LearnIntelligenceHow psychology can be useful to national securityHistorical examples of leadership analysis Leadership personality assessments & the Cuban Missile CrisisPsychoanalytic theory and espionage Reflections Human nature throughout historyHistory repeating itself And much, much more 
Quotes of the Week“Together, these documents are quite powerful. The psych assessments are very, very carefully, tightly held and are classified at a high level. Every intelligence officer has this fantasy about seeing the file that's kept on them by the opponents.”Resources SURFACE SKIM*SpyCasts*Agent of Betrayal, FBI Spy Robert Hanssen with CBS’ Major Garrett and Friends (2023)The North Korean Defector with Former DPRK Agent Kim, Hyun Woo (2023)SPY@20 – “The Spy of the Century” with Curators Alexis and Andrew on Kim Philby (2022)“How Spies Think” – 10 Lessons in Intelligence with Sir David Omand (2020)*Beginner Resources*What is Psychoanalysis? Institute of Psychoanalysis, YouTube (2011) [3 min. video]Psychologists in the CIA, American Psychological Association (2002) [Short article]7 Reasons to Study Psychology, University of Toronto (n.d.) [Short article]DEEPER DIVEBooksFreud and Beyond, S. A. Mitchell (Basic Books, 2016)Narcissism and Politics: Dreams of Glory, J. M. Post (Cambridge University Press, 2014)The True Believer: Thoughts on the Nature of Mass Movements, E. Hoffer (Harper Perennial Modern Classics, 2010) Team of Rivals: The Political Genius of Abraham Lincoln, D. K. Goodwin (Simon & Schuster, 2004)Leaders, Fools, and Impostors: Essays on the Psychology of Leadership, M. F. R. Kets de Vries (iUniverse, 2003) Primary Sources Charles de Gaulle to Pamela Digby Churchill (1942) Blood, Toil, Tears and Sweat (1940)Memoirs of Ulysses S. Grant (1885)Gettysburg Address (1863) House Divided Speech (1858)Excerpt on Cleopatra from Plutarch's Life of Julius Caesar (ca. 2nd century AD)Plutarch’s The Life of Alexander (ca. 2nd century AD) Appian’s The Civil Wars (ca. 2nd century AD) Virgil’s The Aeneid (19 B.C.E) *Wildcard Resource*On Dreams by Sigmund Freud (1901)In this simplified version of the father of psychoanalysis’ seminal book The Interpretation of Dreams, you can get a small taste for Freudian philosophy. Freud believed that dreams were a reflection of the subconscious mind and that studying a person’s dreams can elucidate their inner wants and needs. What are your dreams telling you? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

  • SummaryLeon Panetta (Panetta Institute) joins Andrew (X; LinkedIn) to discuss his lifetime of American public service. Secretary Panetta was the 2023 recipient of SPY’s William H. Webster Award. What You’ll LearnIntelligenceDirecting the Central Intelligence AgencyIntelligence & the Abbottabad RaidWorking within the Clinton Administration A life’s dedication to the safety of the American publicReflections The power of patience and the ability to listenHanding immense pressure and responsibilityAnd much, much more 
Resources SURFACE SKIM*SpyCasts*My Life in American Intelligence with Barry Zulauf (2023)David Petraeus on Ukraine & Intelligence with the former CIA Director & 4* General (2023)Intelligence, Special Operations, and Strategy with Michael Vickers (2023)The 75th Anniversary of the CIA with former Director Robert Gates (2022)*Beginner Resources*What Does the Secretary of Defense Do? MasterClass (2022) [Short article]How did the US find and kill Osama bin Laden? 60 Minutes Australia, YouTube (2018) [4 min. video]Leon E. Panetta, Panetta Institute for Public Policy (n.d.) [Short biography]DEEPER DIVEBooksThe Spymasters: How the CIA Directors Shape History and the Future, C. Whipple (Scribner, 2021)The Gatekeepers: How the White House Chiefs of Staff Define Every Presidency, C. Whipple (Crown, 2018) Worthy Fights: A Memoir of Leadership in War and Peace, L. Panetta & J. Newton (Penguin Books, 2014)SECDEF: The Nearly Impossible Job of Secretary of Defense, C. A. Stevenson (Potomac Books, 2007) Primary Sources Statement on Syria before the Senate Armed Services Committee (2012)Nomination of Hon. Leon E. Panetta to be Secretary of Defense (2011) Statement to Employees by CIA Director Leon Panetta on the Death of Usama Bin Ladin (2011) Nomination of Leon Panetta to be Director, Central Intelligence Agency (2009)Memorandum for Leon Panetta on POTUS’ Time Investment (1996)Letter from Brown to Panetta Regarding Fiscal Year 1994-1997 (1993)Letter to the Honorable Leon E. Panetta from George Bush (1977)*Wildcard Resource*Secretary Panetta now lives on a lovely vineyard in sunny California. Speaking of wine and spies, check out Vint Hill Winery in Warrenton, Virginia. In 1942 the US Army set up top-secret SIGINT operations at the now-vineyard after the farm’s owner, a Ham Radio enthusiast, set up a wire on the roof of the barn that could reach signals from Berlin. The farm was the site of The Signal Corps cryptographic school, which famously intercepted messages from Hiroshi Oshima in 1943. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

  • SummaryRory Cormac (X) and Richard Aldrich join Andrew (X; LinkedIn) to discuss intelligence and the British Monarchy. The links between the royals and espionage prove the Crown to be far more than just a figurehead. What You’ll LearnIntelligencePrince William’s internship with British IntelligenceHow Elizabeth II knew perhaps more secrets that anyone else in historyKing Charles' love of intelligence Queen Victoria as SpymasterMI5, MI6, and the Diana conspiraciesReflections Secrets within secrets Power and knowledgeAnd much, much more 
Quotes of the Week ”What struck me the most was how much access Queen Elizabeth II had, how much she knew 
 And I don't think it's an exaggeration to say that she probably knew more state secrets than any human being who has ever walked the history of the earth, because she had access to everything for 70 odd years.” – Rory Cormac Resources SURFACE SKIM*Spotlight Resource*Crown, Cloak, and Dagger: The British Monarchy and Secret Intelligence from Victoria to Elizabeth II, R. Cormac & R. J. Aldrich (Georgetown University Press, 2023) *SpyCasts*Rise of Devils: The Origins of Modern Terrorism with James Crossland (2024)British Defence AttachĂ©, U.S.A. with Rear Admiral Tim Woods (2023)St. Ermin’s Hotel, London: The History of a Legendary Spy Site with Stephen Duffy (2023) Espionage and the Two Queens with Kent Tiernan (2023)*Beginner Resources*UK Royal Family: What does the King do? Jennifer Clarke, BBC (2024) [Short article]An Average Day in the Life of Queen Elizabeth II, The Infographics Show, YouTube (2020) [9 min. video]Kings and Queens of England & Britain, Ben Johnson, Historic UK (n.d.) [Brief bios of all Monarchs]DEEPER DIVEPrimary Sources Operation Paget Report (2006)CIA Confirms Official Met With LaRouche (1984)Anthony Blunt, 75, Dies; Was Soviet Spy in Britain (1983)More Cloak Than Dagger – An 18th Century Spy (1965)The Queen Delivering her speech to the House of Lords (1838)Popay the Spy Political Cartoon (1833) *Wildcard Resource*Have a sweet tooth? So did many queens. Several delectable desserts have been named by or for British royals. Try these recipes: Victoria Sponge, named for Queen Victoria’s favorite afternoon tea accompanimentCharlotte Cake, supposedly named after Queen Charlotte of Mecklenburg-StrelitzQueen Elizabeth Cake, first published in the 1953 Coronation Cook Book and served at Elizabeth II’s coronation Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

  • SummaryCurators Alexis (LinkedIn) and Andrew (Twitter; LinkedIn) use James Bond artifacts in SPY’s collection to discuss all things 007. This year marks the 70th anniversary of the first Ian Fleming novel, Casino Royale. What You’ll LearnIntelligenceBond vs. Real Life SpiesThe birth of James Bond Ian Fleming’s intelligence pastBond and MI6Reflections What makes a character timeless?Pop culture mirroring real lifeAnd much, much more 
*FULL SHOWNOTES & FULL TRANSCRIPT HERE*Episode NotesThis week on SpyCast, curators Andrew and Alexis join forces to put the past 70 years of Bond into historical perspective. To help frame their conversation, our collections team brought out a fantastic selection of Bond artifacts for Andrew and Alexis to interact with during the recording of this episode. Quotes of the Week“I think in general the spy genre always has to have one foot, often two, in the real world. It's part of what makes that genre appealing and not science fiction. It takes place in the real world. And whether that is, you know, some of the technology or real-world threats, it has to be relatable and recognizable in that sense.” – Alexis Albion.*FULL SHOWNOTES & FULL TRANSCRIPT HERE*Resources SURFACE SKIM*SpyCast’s*Espionage and the Two Queens with Kent Tiernan (2023)Secrets Revealed with Curators Alexis and Andrew on SPY’s Pop-Up Exhibit (2023)CIA Officers Turned Authors with David McCloskey and James Stejskal (2022)The Spy of the Century with Curators Alexis and Andrew on Kim Philby (2022)My Life Looking at Spies and the Media with Paul Lashmar (2022)*Beginner Resources*MI6 History & Facts, Encyclopedia Britannica (2022) [Brief history of MI6]The Evolution of James Bond, Fandom Entertainment, YouTube (2021) [15 min. video]Ian Fleming, Famous Authors (n.d.) [Short biography]*FULL SHOWNOTES & FULL TRANSCRIPT HERE*Primary Sources Primos Bionic Eye, Collection of the International Spy Museum (2021)James Bond’s Omega Seamaster Diver 300M Watch, Collection of the International Spy Museum (2021) 007 Fragrance Commercial, YouTube (1965)James Bond Action Pak Toy Commercial, American Character, YouTube (1964)Aston Martin DB5, Collection of the International Spy Museum (1964)The Zimmermann Telegram, National Archives (1917) *Wildcard Resource*Everyone has a favorite James Bond theme song. If you just can’t choose just one, check out The Ultimate James Bond Medley – A production from Alchemistic Records featuring all 25 Bond songs. *FULL SHOWNOTES & FULL TRANSCRIPT HERE*Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

  • SummaryJohn Blaxland (Twitter, LinkedIn) joins Andrew (Twitter; LinkedIn) to discuss intelligence in Australia and Oceania. John is a widely recognized as a leading expert in this area. What You’ll LearnIntelligence-Australia’s Intelligence Community -SIGINT in Australia during WWII -Australia’s relationship with South Asia-The Pine Gap facility Reflections -The implications of geography-The power of collaborationAnd much, much more 
Quotes of the Week“The shift from the analog to the digital world 
 The shift for digital espionage, digital footprint management. How do you hide in the noise? How do you cover your identity? How do you protect your identity? 
 The digital revolution has actually enabled states to exercise a lot more power, a lot more control, a lot more monitoring, a lot more surveillance, a lot more interference.” – John Blaxland.Resources SURFACE SKIM*Spotlight Resource*-Revealing Secrets: An unofficial history of Australian Signals intelligence and the advent of cyber, C. Birgin & J. Blaxland (University of New South Wales Press, 2023)*SpyCasts*-SPY CHIEFS: Director-General of Security Mike Burgess - ASIO, Australia & America (2022)-Keeping Secrets/Disclosing Secrets with Spy Chief turned DG of Australia’s National Archives David Fricker (2022)-Desperately, Madly in Love – Brett Peppler and the Australian IC (2021)*Beginner Resources*-East Timor Independence: a short history of a long and brutal struggle, Guardian Australia, YouTube (2019) [4 min. video]-Our Agencies, National Intelligence Community of Australia (n.d.) [Overview of each agency in the Australian IC]-What is signals intelligence?, BAE Systems (n.d.) [Short article]DEEPER DIVEBooks-Spies & Sparrows: ASIO & the Cold War, P. Deery (Melbourne University Press, 2022)-Australia's First Spies: The Remarkable Story of Australia's Intelligence Operations, 1901-45, J. Fahey (Allen & Unwin, 2019)-The Official History of ASIO – 3 Volumes, D. Horner, J. Blaxland, R. Crawley (Allen & Unwin, 2014/2015/2016)Primary Sources -United Nations Resolution 1272 (1999)-United Nations Resolution 1264 (1999) -Five Power Defence Arrangements (1971) -Agreement between the Government of the Commonwealth of Australia and the Government of the United States of America relating to the Establishment of a Joint Defence Space Research Facility (1966) -6 Wireless Unit signal sighting of Allied shipping (1945) -Role and effectiveness of Signals Intelligence in World War II (1945)-Four Rotor Enigma Machine, Collection of the International Spy Museum (1943-1944) *Wildcard Resource*-Pine Gap A TV show about the top-secret satellite surveillance base of the same name. If you’ve seen it, you know it all about Australian Intelligence. Just kidding. But it’s a good watch! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

  • Summary
    James Crossland (Twitter) joins Andrew (Twitter; LinkedIn) to discuss the origins of modern terrorism. James is an expert on terrorism, intelligence, and propaganda.

    What You’ll Learn
    Intelligence
    -The origins of modern terrorism 
    -19th century spymasters 
    -Covert action and assassinations
    -Intelligence as a weapon
    Reflections
    -Philosophy and ideology’s effect on history
    -The power of fear
    And much, much more …

    Quotes of the Week
    “These waves of repression that feed into discontent and create more radical strains of discontent, that is a process that's really observable during this period. The reason why I think this is the first real age of terrorism is because you have all this stuff coming together: Communications that you need to promote terrorist activities to gain the attention you need, societal discontent, dangerous ideas … and it's all moving around together as part of the same process.” – James Crossland. 

    Resources 
    SURFACE SKIM
    *Spotlight Resource* 
    -The Rise of Devils: Fear and the Origins of Modern Terrorism, J. Crossland (Manchester University Press, 2023) 
    *SpyCasts*
    -Venice’s Secret Service with Ioanna Iordanou (2023)
    -St. Ermin’s Hotel, London – The History of a Legendary Spy Site, with Stephen Duffy (2023)
    -Espionage and the Two Queens with Kent Tiernan (2023)
    -The Lion and the Fox – Civil War Spy vs. Spy with Alexander Rose (2023)
    *Beginner Resources*
    -Terrorism, J. P. Jenkins, Encyclopaedia Brittanica (2023) [Short article / definition]
    -What Were The Most Important Events of the 19th Century?, C. Seaver, History Defined (2022) [Short article]
    -Marxism in Under 5 Minutes, Theory in 5, YouTube (2020) [3 min. video] 
    DEEPER DIVE
    Books
    -Sofia Perovskaya, Terrorist Princess: The Plot to Kill Tsar Alexander II and the Woman Who Led It, R. R. Riggs (Global Harmony Press Inc., 2018)
    -The Pursuit of Power: Europe 1815-1914, R. J. Evans (Penguin Books, 2017) 
    -Blood and Rage: A Cultural History of Terrorism, M. Burleigh (Harper, 2009)
    Primary Sources 
    -The assassination, who is responsible? (1901) 
    -New York Times “Empress of Austria Slain” Article (1898) 
    -New York Times “War On Terrorism” Article (1881)
    -La vérité sur Orsini (1872) [The Truth about Orsini]
    -Manifesto of the Paris Commune (1871) 
    -The Revolutionary Catechism (1869) 
    -On the Fenian Prisoners in Manchester (1867)
    -Procès de Orsini (1858) [The Trial of Orsini]
    *Wildcard Resource*
    -You may have already read his classic play Crime and Punishment, but have you read Dostoevsky’s The Idiot (1869)? 
    This novel is known as Dostoevsky’s most personal work, a story that clearly shows the threads of his own life experiences during 19th century Russia. The novel explores many of the same questions of philosophy and politics explored in this episode of SpyCast. 
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  • Summary Eric Escobar (Twitter; LinkedIn) joins Andrew (Twitter; LinkedIn) to discuss compromising networks and information security. He has a coveted DEFCON Black Badge. What You’ll Learn Intelligence -What keeps Eric up at night -Thinking like an ethical hacker (aka a “penetration tester) -Protecting your information (i.e., “Hardening the attack surface”) -Plain English explanations of key cyber concepts like “Kill Chains” and “Zero Days” Reflections -Having a cool job -The information revolution and life in the modern world And much, much more
 Episode Notes Eric Escobar commits several thousand felonies on any given day, if he didn’t have permission to do what he was doing. A Principal Security Consultant with SecureWorks, Eric has compromised pretty much everything out there: from healthcare and banking to technology and critical infrastructure, through to amusement parks and next generation military aircraft. “From my perspective, it’s the coolest job in the entire world.” His team consecutively won first place in the Wireless CTF category at DEF CON 23, 24, and 25, snagging a Black Badge along the way. He has a BS and MS in Civil Engineering. And
 The links between computing, hacking and the 60’s counterculture are FASCINATING. Learn more by dipping your toes here and here, or dive deeper with What the Dormouse Said (2005) by John Markoff and From Counterculture to Cyberculture (2006) by Fred Turner. Quote of the Week "Watching any critical infrastructure get compromised is really the thing that keeps me up at night because lives are in the balance
and we do a lot of testing for critical infrastructure, and I've seen computers and machines that have been online and not been taken offline, longer than I've been alive
So really interesting to see those types of things because they interact with really big, expensive hardware
there's a catch 22 that happens where you can't really take the machine offline to do maintenance on it because it's critical infrastructure. So then how do you test it to make sure that a hacker can't take it offline, or maintenance can't be done on it? " – Eric Escobar.Resources *Andrew’s Recommendation* -Word Notes From beginner thru advanced, you’ll find some helpful definitions of things like “Web 3.0,” “NFT’s” and “Digital Transformation” on this Cyberwire audio glossary. *SpyCasts* -Inside Microsoft’s Threat Intelligence Center (MSTIC) – with John Lambert and Cristin Goodwin (2021) -The Cyber Zeitgeist – with Dave Bittner (2021) -Securing Cyberspace – with Charlie Mitchell (2016) *Beginner Resources* -What is Hacking? The Economic Times (n.d.) [web] -Ethical Hacking in 8 Minutes, Simplilearn (2020) [8 min video] -Cybersecurity in 7 minutes, Simplilearn (2020) [7 min video] Books -The Cyberweapons Arms Race, N. Perloth (Bloomsbury, 2021) -Cult of the Dead Cow, J. Menn (PublicAffairs, 2020) -Breaking & Entering, J. Smith (Mariner Books, 2019) -The Art of Invisibility, K. Mitnick (L, B & C, 2017) -Ghost in the Wires, K. Mitnick (Back Bay Books, 2012) -Kingpin, K. Poulson (Crown, 2012) -The Cuckoo’s Egg, C. Stoll (Doubleday, 1989) -Neuromancer, W. Gibson (Ace, 1984) Articles -2022 State of the Threat: A Year in Review, Secureworks (2022) -The Anthropology of Hackers, The Atlantic (2010) -Timeline Since 2006: Significant Cyber Incidents, CSIS (n.d.) Documentary -DEFCON, The Documentary Network (2013) Resources -Government Hacking Bibliography, S. Quinlan, New America Foundation (2016) *Wildcard Resource* -“The Aurora Shard” Come to the International Spy Museum to see an ugly chunk of metal. Why? Well, it speaks to a revolution in the relationship between the material world and the non-material world. Broken down? 30 lines of code blew up a 27-ton generator. Zeros and ones can cause violent explosions! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

  • SummaryAlan Kohler joins Andrew to discuss the FBI’s counterintelligence division. He is a recipient of the FBI Director’s Award for Outstanding Counterintelligence Investigation. ***FULL SHOWNOTES AVAILABLE HERE***What You’ll LearnIntelligence-Counterintelligence vs. Counterespionage-How the FBI recruit’s foreign agents -Ideological motivations behind spying-Effect of technology on counterintelligenceReflections-Staying grounded under pressure -The value of creativityNotesAlan Kohler (LinkedIn, Website) has been the FBI Assistant Director for Counterintelligence since 2020. Alan and Andrew (Twitter; LinkedIn) talk all things counterintelligence.***FULL RESOURCES AVAILABLE HERE****SpyCasts*-The FBI & Cyber with Cyber Division Chief Bryan Vorndran, Part 1 (2022)-The FBI & Cyber with Cyber Division Chief Bryan Vorndran, Part 2 (2022)-My Global Career as a Female FBI Agent with Kathy Stearman (2021)-The FBI Way with Counterintelligence Spy Chief Frank Figliuzzi (2021)***FULL RESOURCES AVAILABLE HERE****Beginner Resources*-What We Investigate, FBI (n.d.) [webpage]-FAQ’S, FBI (n.d.) [webpage]-US Opens Counterintelligence Investigation into China Every 12 Hours (Dir. Wray), MSNBC (2022) [video]-What We Know About China’s Spy Agency, Bloomberg Originals (2019) [video]-Hollow Nickel/Rudolf Abel, FBI (n.d.) [Article]-NCSC Mission, Vision, and Goals, ODNI (n.d.) [Website]Glossary: -Counterintelligence: Information gathered, and activities conducted to identify, deceive, exploit, disrupt, or protect against espionage or other intelligence activities-FBI AttachĂ©: a special agent assigned to a U.S. embassy or consulate overseas to liaise with local law enforcement and intelligence agencies. They pursue terrorist, intelligence, and criminal threats with international dimensions. -Occam’s Razor: a rule of thumb theory that states when you are faced with competing explanations for the same phenomenon, the simplest one is probably the correct one. Attributed to William of Ockham, a 14th century English theologian. ***FULL RESOURCES AVAILABLE HERE***Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

  • Summary
    Shane Harris (Twitter, LinkedIn) joins Andrew (Twitter; LinkedIn) to discuss the role of intelligence in the Ukraine conflict one year after it began. Shane reports on intelligence for the Washington Post and is the author of two books.

    What You’ll Learn



    Intelligence 
    -Where we are with the war in Ukraine
    -The role intelligence agencies are playing in the conflict
    -The leadership of Zelensky and Putin
    -What it’s like to report on spies
    -Dealing with sources inside the intelligence agencies

    Reflections
    -The tenacity of the Ukrainian people and army
    -History as both repetitive and unpredictable 

    Episode Notes
    This week on SpyCast, Shane Harris of The Washington Post joins Andrew to reflect on the previous year and discuss the role of intelligence within the war in Ukraine. He has been writing about these issues for more than two decades, including a period with the Wall Street Journal. He is the author of two books, The Watchers, on the rise of surveillance in the US, and @War, on the rise of the military-internet complex. He was part of a team that won the Pulitzer Prize for Public Service in 2021.

    Quote of the Week
    “At the outset, [I] believed that what we were looking at was probably a pretty swift Russian victory … They would come in, they would decapitate the central government in Kiev in the first 72 hours, and it would be bloody, and it would be violent, but that Russia would prevail because they were deemed to have the superior military in terms of technology experience numbers. Turns out, all those things were spectacularly wrong.” – Shane Harris.

    Resources 
    *SpyCasts*

    -How Artificial Intelligence is Changing the Spy Game with Mike Susong (2023)
    -Dealing with Russia A Conversation with Counterintelligence Legend Jim Olson (2022)
    -Becoming a Russian Intelligence Officer with Janosh Neumann (2022)
    -The Information Battlespace: Foreign Denial and Deception with Bill Parquette (2022)

    ï»ż*Beginner Resources*
    -Has Putin's war failed and what does Russia want?, P. Kirby, BBC (2023)
    -A Brief History of Modern Ukraine, BBC (2022) [YouTube video]
    -Russia-Ukraine Relations in 60 Seconds, CBC News (2022)
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  • Summary
    Bonny Lin (Biography) joins Andrew (Twitter; LinkedIn) to discuss the current state of China and intelligence. Bonny is the Director of the ChinaPower Project at the Center for Strategic and International Studies. 

    What You’ll Learn
    Intelligence
    -China’s economic power and status 
    -The current landscape of Chinese intelligence 
    -China’s relationship with Taiwan
    -The ChinaPower Project
    Reflections
    -Power and prominence 
    -The global community as a complicated ecosystem 
    And much, much more …

    Quotes of the Week
    “In the last couple of years, we've seen really a securitization of how China views intelligence and national security in general. And just this July, we saw China pass a revised counter espionage law. So with the whole host of laws of China's past since 2014 … it basically has made collection of intelligence and protecting Chinese national security the responsibility of every Chinese citizen.” - Bonny Lin.

    Resources 
    SURFACE SKIM
    *SpyCasts*
    -The Eye of Horus: Egyptian Intelligence with Dina Rezk (2023)
    -China’s Corporate Spy War with CNBC’s Eamon Javers (2023) 
    -The Counterintelligence Chief with FBI Assistant Director Alan Kohler (2023)
    -Trafficking Data: The Digital Struggle with China with Aynne Kokas (2022)

    *Beginner Resources*
    -China-Taiwan crisis explained: What is behind the tensions?, ITV News, YouTube (2022) [3 min. video]
    -8 things you need to know about China’s economy, World Economic Forum (2016) [Short article]
    -Xi Jinping, Forbes (n.d) [Brief profile]

    DEEPER DIVE
    Books
    -Spies and Lies: How China's Greatest Covert Operations Fooled the World, A. Joske (Hardie Grant, 2022) 
    -The Chinese Invasion Threat: Taiwan’s Defense and American Strategy in Asia, I. Easton (Eastbridge Books, 2019)
    -The Hundred-Year Marathon: China's Secret Strategy to Replace America as the Global Superpower, M. Pillsbury (St. Martin’s Griffin, 2016) 

    Primary Sources 
    -National Intelligence Estimate – China-Taiwan: Prospects or Cross-Strait Relations (1999) 
    -Forecasting the Sino-Vietnamese Split (1986)
    -China-Vietnam: A Status Report (1983)
    -Establishment of a China Task Force (1966) 
    -Communist Chinese Intervention in the Vietnam War (1966)
    -Controls on Trade with Communist China (1955)

    *Wildcard Resource*
    -Need a good cookie recipe for the holidays? Try this recipe adapted from the 1300-year old cookies found during the 1915 excavation of the Astana Cemetery in Xinjiang, China. 
    -The petrified cookies are currently part of the collection of the British Museum, and still look quite tasty! 
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  • SummaryBarry Zulauf (Twitter; LinkedIn) joins Andrew (Twitter; LinkedIn) to discuss his extensive experience working across the American intelligence community. Barry is the President of the International Association for Intelligence Education. What You’ll LearnIntelligenceWhat is the “Intelligence Community?”The organizational structure of American intelligenceThe establishment of the ODNIThe intelligence components of the DEA ReflectionsA life of servicePassion to serve the people And much, much more 
Quotes of the Week“[Fentanyl] is an enormous, enormous problem and no single organization, even as big as the Defense Intelligence enterprise, can deal with it alone. So, it's going to be a lot of diplomacy and a lot of building bridges, convincing people to do the right thing.” – Barry Zulauf.Resources SURFACE SKIM*SpyCasts*First of Many
America’s First Female Intelligence Agency Chief with former NGA Director Letitia “Tish” Long (2023)Espionage and the Two Queens with Kent Tiernan (2023)Irregular Warfare & Intelligence with IWC Director Dennis Walters (2023)El Chapo, the Sinaloa Cartel & Intelligence with Trial Reporter Noah Hurowitz (2022)*Beginner Resources*America's intelligence community, explained, The Washington Post, YouTube (2014) [2 min. video]Members of the IC, Office of the Director of National Intelligence (n.d.) [Brief summaries of the 18 agencies] Who We Are, United States Drug Enforcement Administration (n.d) [Short article]DEEPER DIVEPrimary Sources The WMD Commission Report (2005)The 9/11 Commission Report (2004) The Intelligence Reform and Terrorism Prevention Act of 2004 (2004)The Clark Report (1955)The Doolittle Report (1955)National Security Act (1947)CIA Review of the World Situation (1947) *Wildcard Resource*Barry mentioned early in the episode that he actually rowed into town the morning we recorded this episode – Barry shares this hobby with Teddy Roosevelt, an avid rower and the president that was instrumental in the creation of the FBI.Check out this Letter from Charles J. Bonaparte to Theodore Roosevelt that catapulted the FBI into existence. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

  • SummaryRobert Wittman (Website; Twitter) joins Andrew (Twitter; LinkedIn) to discuss his career and the FBI’s Art Crime Team. Bob recovered over $300 million worth of stolen art and cultural property over the course of his career. What You’ll LearnIntelligenceHow the FBI’s Art Crime Team (ACT) was formedThe intelligence angle when investigating provenanceLiving and working undercover abroadMuseums & IntelligenceReflectionsThe importance of cultural propertyQuestions of ownership and belongingAnd much, much more 
Quotes of the Week“The motivation for writing the book was to get the word out how important cultural heritage is. It really is important to make the public realize that this is an important program that should be supported by law enforcement both local and federal.” – Robert Wittman.Resources SURFACE SKIM*Featured Resource*Priceless: How I Went Undercover to Rescue the World’s Stolen Treasures, R. Wittman (Crown Publishing, 2011)*SpyCasts*The Gambling Capital of the World: Intelligence, Las Vegas Style! with James Lockhart and Keith Michaels (2023)Venice’s Secret Service with Ioanna Iordanou (2023)70th Anniversary of James Bond, Special with Alexis Albion on 007 (2023)How Artificial Intelligence is Changing the Spy Game with Mike Susong (2023)*Beginner Resources*Why art gets stolen time and again, R. Pryor, The Art Newspaper (2020) [Short article] FBI Art Theft Program, FBI, YouTube (2013) [6 min. video]What is cultural property?, Information and Heritage Inspectorate (n.d.) [Short article] DEEPER DIVEPrimary Sources Crystal Sphere, Collection of the University of Pennsylvania MuseumMask of the Man with the Broken Nose, Collection of the Philadelphia Museum of Art Christ in the Storm on the Sea of Galilee, Collection of the Isabella Stewart Gardner MuseumThe Concert, Collection of the Isabella Stewart Gardner MuseumThe Rosenberg Diary, Collection of the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum Museums and the theft of works of art (1973) *Wildcard Resource*Can you identify famous pieces and artists like an art detective?Take this Google Arts & Culture quiz to see if you’re cut out for the job! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices