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  • The Mindless Marketers is a new segment with the Sleeping Barber podcast. So today Vassilis Douros and Marc Binkley join me in a humorous exploration of some of todays hottest marketing topics with inspiration from the wonderful work of Tom Fishburne Founder and CEO of Marketoonist. We show and explain a selection of cartoons that we like and then debate topics like changes in marketing roles, the relevance of chief marketing officer (CMO) positions, and the efficiency of different marketing strategies. We discuss the challenges and misconceptions in the marketing industry, such as the reliance on data versus insight, the perception of marketing departments within organisations, and the shift towards prioritising first-party data due to cookie deprecation. The episode also touches on creative advertising, customer-centric approaches, and the importance of brand and product availability to consumers. Through a mix of personal anecdotes, industry insights, and discussing Toms cartoons, we delve into the complexities of marketing an industry we all love.


    00:00 Welcome to the Pilot: Introducing Mindless Marketers

    00:25 Diving Into the World of tom Fishburne and the Marketoonist,

    01:36 The Evolution and Challenges of the CMO Role

    07:54 AI in Marketing: Expectations vs. Reality

    11:50 Data-Driven Marketing: A Double-Edged Sword

    16:56 Navigating the Shift from Third-Party Cookies

    21:10 Rethinking Remarketing Strategies

    22:13 Scepticism and Realisations in Digital Marketing

    24:20 The Impact of Cutting Marketing Budgets

    31:37 Inside the Mind of a Consumer: Brand Perception

    39:08 Concluding Thoughts on Marketing Strategies


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  • In February Walter T Geer posted that he was going to shut down his social media and “use it to amplify the voices of Black women that needed a mega phone” Walter commented that Historically Black women “have CONSISTENTLY been called upon to help solve the worlds problems. It wasn’t too long ago that leaders and companies called upon and hired many of these women, to save their companies by addressing their diversity issues. Now only a few years later, many of those same leaders and companies seem to have forgotten the very people who helped dig them out of a hole”


    I was in touch with Walter and asked if he thought it was a good idea to profile some of the women he had featured and host a panel discussion on their experiences in marketing and communications and from their perspectives why we are where we are and what needs to change. 


    I was incredibly grateful that six of the black female leaders featured by Walter came back and agreed to be part of the discussion. In Part One of that discussion I am joined by

    *Effie Kanyua, Founder: We Are Warriors PR - featured in PR Week's 'New Agencies to Watch in 2024'

    *Ekaette Kern, Co-Founder and CEO, Tenet Consultancy.

    *LeAnne Weekes, public relations and marketing expert looking for her next role


    In this episode we have a really open conversation we discuss barriers to entry for black professionals in the field, including recruitment challenges, unpaid internships, lack of progression routes, and systemic issues. The panel discuss real-life examples of overcoming barriers in the industry, strategies for enhancing diversity in marketing and communications, stories of perseverance, creativity, and success, advice for aspiring professionals, emphasising the value of networking. Despite some progress, our industry still has a long way to go in truly embracing diversity and inclusivity. Let's learn, grow, and support each other in making the marketing world a place where everyone's voice is heard and valued. 💡


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    00:26 Effie's Journey: From Journalism to AI-Powered PR

    01:23 LeAnne's Diverse Communications Expertise

    02:54 Ekaette's Mission: Diversifying the Agency World in Atlanta

    04:28 The Stark Reality of Diversity in the Industry

    05:02 Breaking Down Barriers: Opportunities and Representation

    09:24 The Importance of Diverse Voices in Creative Industries

    12:20 Challenges and Solutions for True Diversity and Inclusion

    18:34 The Role of Leadership and Strategy in DE&I Initiatives

    21:36 The Impact of DE&I Rollbacks and the Need for Action

    44:22 Advice for Aspiring Professionals in the Communications Industry


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  • Dr. Grace Kite is Founder and CEO of Magic Numbers and Magic Works Training. Her career is distinguished by a blend of academic excellence and practical expertise, making her a sought-after advisor and speaker on topics related to marketing effectiveness and ROI. Dr. Kite's contributions to the field are characterised by her ability to blend detailed econometric analysis with clear, actionable insights, helping businesses to optimise their marketing strategies in alignment with economic principles.In addition to her consulting work, Dr. Kite is an influential voice in the marketing community, frequently contributing to industry discussions, publishing research findings, and participating in conferences. And today's episode delves into so much of the work Grace contributes to the industry. We talk about how Graces curiosity got her into marketing, the importance of people, how getting the work used not just commissioned is so important. Bar charts beeing the bazzoka of data, the importance of last click attribution going away, the differences for smaller and bigger brands, how 30 grand spent today can give you 20-40% more effective marketing plans, of course we touch on AI and Die Hards place as a Christmas Classic.


    00:14 From Economics to Marketing: A Unique Journey

    03:21 The Leap to Freelancing: Balancing Career and Family

    07:59 The Power of Positioning and Analytics in Marketing

    11:28 Understanding the Human Element in Data Analytics

    21:42 Navigating Marketing Strategies in Inflationary Times

    25:58 Practical Advice for Marketers on a Budget

    31:48 Navigating the Pitfalls of Attribution in Marketing

    39:45 Understanding the Impact of External Factors on Marketing

    42:24 Exploring the Potential and Pitfalls of Attention Metrics

    45:19 The Power of Niche Influencers in Marketing

    47:57 AI in Marketing: Opportunities and Concerns

    50:57 Reflections and Insights from Industry Events

    51:34 Econometrics: Making Advanced Analysis Accessible


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  • This episode of 'That's What I Call Marketing' covers the top marketing stories and campaigns from March 2024, including Heinz's ketchup insurance in the UAE, the LinkedIn-Edelman B2B Thought Leadership Impact Report, and how AI is influencing the creative process. The episode also discusses innovative campaigns from brands like Paddy Power, Kahluah, and Under Armour's AI-generated sports commercial. Additionally, it addresses TikTok's potential ban in the US and Starbucks' restructuring of its marketing leadership. The episode wraps up with highlights of award nominations and recent podcast episodes, offering insights into recent marketing trends and discussions on AI’s role in creativity, the importance of thought leadership, and the evolving landscape of advertising.


    00:00 Welcome to the Marketing Roundup!

    00:21 March 2024 Sponsorship Opportunities and Show Updates

    00:58 Heinz Ketchup Insurance: A Sticky Situation

    01:58 LinkedIn and Edelman's Insightful B2B Report

    03:14 Paddy Power's Creative Marketing Genius

    04:08 St. Patrick's Day Celebrations and Brand Collaborations

    05:13 TikTok's Uncertain Future in the US

    06:39 Sam Altman's view on AI's Impact on Creativity and Marketing

    08:34 Under Armour's AI-Powered Sports Commercial Controversy

    10:08 Cannes 2024 Preparations and Opportunities

    10:55 Pot Noodle's Slurp Campaign: A Sound Strategy?

    12:54 Bailey's Innovative Solution to a Common Dilemma

    13:31 Andrex's Bold New Brand Platform

    14:49 Stella Artois' Star-Studded Campaign

    15:44 Celebrating Differences with a Powerful Message

    17:00 Starbucks' Marketing Leadership Shake-Up

    18:04 AIM Awards and Marketing Excellence


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  • In this episode of 'That's What I Call Marketing', Conor Byrne hosts a B2B Marketing panel discussion with Tara O'Sullivan CMO of Zevo Health, Caroline Kelly VP of Marketing at Johnson Hanna, and Seamus Moore CMO of Atlas. The discussion aims to delve deep into the evolving world of B2B marketing and answers the question why is B2B marketing so boring. The discussion looks at what is going wrong and what is going right in B2B Marketing, the need for it to have a more human-centric approach and the well known challenge of stakeholder complexities. The panel debate if B2B marketing should be purely transactional or should it create meaningful connections addressing customer pain points and leveraging strong creative content to resonate with the audience. The episode explores the role of creativity and utility in marketing, with a consensus on the necessity of creativity to stand out in a traditionally utilitarian field. The panelists share successful strategies from their respective organisations, shedding light on the importance of brand differentiation and the power of creative tactics to foster engagement and break the monotony of B2B marketing. As the conversation progresses, the panel touches on the impact of thought leadership and content strategies, underscoring the need for authenticity, relevance, and delivering value to the audience. The episode concludes with a lively enough discussion on the relationship between marketing and sales, emphasising the importance of collaboration, setting clear boundaries, and aligning goals to drive business success.. The episode serves as a compelling call to action for marketers to innovate, connect, and inspire in the evolving world of B2B marketing. The future of B2B marketing should be bright and inspiring 


    03:30 Defining B2B Marketing: Insights from the Experts

    12:07 The Creative Challenge in B2B Marketing

    18:29 Personalizing B2B Marketing: Strategies for Engagement

    24:43 The Importance of Measurable Outcomes in B2B Marketing

    32:45 The Digital Transformation of B2B Marketing

    34:49 Navigating the Complex Relationship Between Sales and Marketing

    48:17 The Importance of Internal Content Creation in B2B Marketing

    55:55 The Future of B2B Marketing: Creativity, Purpose, and Impact

    56:26 Spotlight on Innovative B2B Brands and the Future of Work


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  • Chief Revenue Officer of Calendly,Jessica Gilmartin, is today's guest on That's What I Call Marketing. Today we cover so much in a fascinating and fun conversation that is a great insight for not just marketers but for sales people too. We discuss the ways Jessica found support and mentorship on her pretty unconventional career journey, we talk about the importance of finding passion, maintaining intellectual curiosity, and the constant evolution of marketing as a discipline. We go deep on the topic of international marketing, highlighting the necessity of understanding how to cut through the noise, understand what really matters and where and when to get really local, something that Diplomat Agency has been set up to support scaling companies with. Jessica is a leader that oozes empathy and we talk about her approach to creating a supportive culture as a leader, being a thoughtful leader and not having all the answers. We cover product led growth, insights into how to best align sales and marketing and practical advice for any salespeople out there trying to target CMO’s you are probably getting it all wrong.


    And we uncover something that we can’t tell Jessicas boss. 


    00:00 Celebrating International Women's Day and Mentorship

    03:05 Embracing Curiosity and Lifelong Learning in Marketing

    04:50 Navigating the Complexities of International Marketing

    16:54 Creating a Culture of Honesty and Empathy in Leadership

    23:10 Transitioning to Chief Revenue Officer: Integrating Sales and Marketing

    29:04 Exploring Calendly's Marketing Strategies and Growth

    34:32 Fostering a Culture of Innovation and Customer Focus

    38:13 Embracing Change and Experimentation in Marketing

    41:46 The Importance of Psychological Safety and Learning from Failures

    44:10 Empowering Teams

    51:07 Balancing Work and Personal Life


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  • In this episode of 'That's What I Call Marketing,' I get to interview Tom Roach. Tom is a highly respected figure in the marketing world, renowned for his fascinating career, insightful publications, and significant contributions to marketing thought leadership. Tom is unquestionably one of the greats when it comes to effectiveness, he has been the author of a phenomenal amount of effectiveness papers and so certainly knows what good looks like. Today we chat about that, how that journey came about, how he got rejected by most the agencies he ended up working for when he started out, how he was a terrible account person and some of the things he has learnt along the way. We chat about how Tom set about instilling a culture of effectiveness through the agencies he worked at, without doubt leaving a legacy of excellence along the way. Tom talks about bridging the gap between creativity and commerciality, the importance of brand-building in digital platforms, and the aspects of communication strategy. He also shares insights about award-winning marketing case studies he has worked on, such as McDonald's and Sainsbury's, explaining the power of practical strategic planning, creativity, and consistency in achieving marketing goals. And as if that isn’t enough we talk about Toms path to not becoming a choral singer.


    04:50 The Shift from Account Management to Strategy

    06:05 The Importance of Effectiveness in Advertising

    08:55 The Art of Writing Effective Case Studies

    14:26 The Sainsbury's Case Study: A Deep Dive

    21:04 The Role of Frameworks in Strategy

    26:15 Creating a Culture of Effectiveness

    30:42 The Two Sides of the Coin: Media and Creativity

    35:39 The Potential of Digital Platforms in Building Brands

    43:28 The Role of Creativity in Gaining Attention

    50:26 The Challenge of Convincing Stakeholders about Brand Building


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  • Newly appointed Chief Operating Officer of Dentsu Ian McGrath took time out before starting his new job to reflect on his career to date and his perspective on the world of marketing. Ian has lots of thoughts to share, as you will find out, coming from his years of experience working and running top media agencies in Ireland as well as running global media for the brand Poker Stars for the past two years. 


    During todays conversation we talk about Ians love of spreadsheets, the role agencies have played in his career, how the move client side happened and the experience of being client side. We talk about culture, accountability and autonomy,  the importance of understanding - understanding culture, geography, global and local nuances - understanding things like marketing and business metrics, the role of testing, understanding loyalty and penetration and all the different areas of marketing are so important. And how ultimately how you use all of this information depends, on so many factors.


    03:51 The Importance of Understanding Marketing

    10:18 The Shift from Agency to Consultancy

    18:11 The Importance of Team Dynamics and Culture

    28:19 Understanding International Market Dynamics

    42:35 The Role of Brand Power and Share of Voice in Maintaining Market Share

    48:40 The Balance Between Global and Local in Marketing

    54:25 The Return to Full Service in Marketing Agencies


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  • Prof. Karen Nelson-Field, the leading authority in the area of attention, joined That’s What I Call Marketing to record Live Vol.2. The episode covers various aspects of marketing, particularly in relation to attention, media, and the digital advertising industry and concludes with an audience Q&A. Host Conor Byrne and Karen discuss the differences between traditional and digital media and the significance of understanding user behaviour to make effective marketing decisions. Karen explains how attention on digital advertising platforms is measured and how it affects campaign outcomes. She emphasises the importance of considering user experiences across different formats and platforms. 


    Karen explains that reach isn't equal across various advertising channels, stressing the need to understand the effectiveness of each platform in capturing attention. Despite any criticisms her work has received, she maintains the importance of her research and believes that the industry should evolve alongside changing media usage patterns. She also shares the findings from her research with Spotify and the challenges smaller brands face when advertising on low attention platforms.  


    The significance of using visual and auditory cues in advertising is discussed, including the impact they can have on brand recognition and audience engagement. Along the same line, she emphasises the importance of early brand integration within ads, as many viewers may not watch the entirety of a digital ad. 


    Karen goes over some examples of her work, such as a study conducted in Ireland assessing TV viewing habits and results of a project conducted with QMS in Australia focusing on out-of-home advertising. The conversation wraps up with a discussion about how attention measurements might apply on a B2B level, comparing it to B2C strategies.


    Karen announces her upcoming book, stating that it will be a blueprint for media planning and buying in the changing digital landscape and takes questions from the audience in an engaging Q&A Session. 


    All this and we talk about snakes


    02:49 The Brown Snake Incident

    05:54 The Birth of Amplified Intelligence

    09:15 Challenging Facebook's Advertising Model

    12:30 The Importance of Attention in Advertising

    29:55 The Role of Creative in Advertising

    35:28 The Problem with Cost Per Thousand (CPM)

    39:18 Understanding the Impact of Digital Reach

    40:38 Exploring the Ecosystem of Attention Space

    43:15 The Power of Attention in TV Viewing

    45:42 The Influence of Sponsorships in Program Advertising

    46:38 The Role of Out of Home Advertising in Attention Economy

    48:18 Dealing with Criticism in the Attention Economy

    55:00 Audience Q&A  


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  • Today’s guest is Mark Sandys, Chief Innovation Officer at Diageo. The conversation covers so many aspects of marketing that Mark has seen throughout his career. We talk about Mark's entry into Diageo as a graduate trainee in 1997 to his rise within the company to his current role. Mark shares his views on the importance of stepping out of your comfort zone and how that helped progress his career in a bit of a sliding doors moment. We talk about the evolution of his marketing philosophy and the insights gained from observing consumer behaviour across the globe. We discuss the direction of innovation in the drinks market, with a focus on trends such as non-alcoholic beverages, celeb endorsed brands (still working on Ryan Reynolds as a guest) and the expanding influence of tequila. Mark discusses Diageo's innovation strategy centred on long-term planning and creating new systems and platforms rather than just products. We conclude with some advice from Mark to young marketers about understanding the entire P&L to make marketing choices that drive profit.


    01:18 Experiences and Insights from Working at Diageo

    08:46 Career Transitions and International Experiences

    14:59 Understanding and Adapting to Different Markets

    21:29 The Importance of Continuous Learning and Adaptability

    30:48 Guinness's Growth Post-Covid and getting a better Guinness at home

    37:31 The Concept of Platforms, Not Products

    49:32 The Role of Acquisition in Innovation Strategy

    52:56 The Future of Spirits: Tequila and Whiskey

    57:56 The Importance of Leading the Business


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  • Panel: Kerri Martin is CMO of Goosebumps Brand Advisors and previously held senior roles at Melt, BBDO, VW, BMW and Harley Davidson.

    Dave Horton and Matthew Woodhams-Roberts, are ECDs and partners of Special Group US and the creative team behind this years Uber Eats Ad.


    So here we go, a deep dive into the Super Bowl ads of 2024 with a panel of experts. Kerri Martin is CMO of Goosebumps Brand Advisors and previously has held senior roles at Melt, BBDO, VW, BMW and Harley Davidson. Dave Horton and Matt Woodhams-Roberts, are ECDs (and partners) of Special U.S. and have worked on Super Bowl Ads before, this year overseeing the creative for Uber Eats highly rated ad.


    Our conversation kicks off with personal Super Bowl Sunday experiences and dives into dissections of various ads that caught the panel's attention. Ads discussed include the nostalgic Volkswagen commercial celebrating 75 years in America, the emotionally infused Google Pixel ad, Pringles and State Farm's celebrity-packed spots, to name a few. Additionally, we touch on emerging themes, such as the increasing use of celebrities to create an immediate connection with viewers and the importance of aligning with cultural sentiments. We particularly highlight the impact certain celebrities can have on an advertising campaign. The panel also reflects on apparent category gaps in this year's roster, notably the subdued presence of beer and American auto manufacturers. Tune in for an in-depth exploration of Super Bowl advertising - the hits and the misses, and the evolving dynamics of this high-stakes marketing platform.


    And even though she couldn't make it as a guest, we do talk about Taylor Swift!


    05:04 Discussing Favourite Super Bowl Ads

    10:34 Impact of Celebrity Endorsements

    20:27 Consistency and Creativity this year

    26:15 The Importance of Music 

    28:06 The Role of Supporting Cast in Ads

    29:34 The Importance of a Great Idea 

    31:56 The Making of the Uber Eats Ad

    40:42 The Value of Super Bowl Ads


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  • Attending Pendulum Summit 2024 host Conor Byrne got to meet and speak to 6 of the amazing speakers. This episode is made up of 6 short interviews and is less about marketing and more about inspiring stories and from some truly incredible people. The Pendulum Summit, believes in the power of impactful moments that create lasting change. The summit creates a ripple effect that drives the change the world needs. These short stories will hopefully inspire you.

    3:10 - Dr. Zoe Wimshurst, Sports Psychologist13:26 - Niall Breslin, Singer, Author, Mental Health Advocate20:45 - Dr. Brian Pennie, Author and Neuroscientist27:43 - Astacianna Hatcher Conservation Ornithologist35:10 - Charlie Engle Ultramarathon runner and author45:42 - Dr. John Gray Author Men are from mars women are from venus

    Thanks to the Pendulum Summit


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  • When Michael Corcoran, the former head of social at Ryanair, left his role in 2023 it sent shocks through marketing circles. Guillaume Huin, the head of social media at McDonald’s wrote: “You and your team have redefined the industry you were in and opened new horizons for every social team across the world". So what happened, well Michael asked That's What I Call Marketing to help launch his new agency, Frankly, by recording an episode in front of a live audience so he could share his story. Michael shares what went on and wrong in Ryanair, he shares his thoughts on effective social marketing strategies, the importance of thinking strategically, his approach to building and developing teams. He delves into his work at Ryanair, the lessons he learned, challenges faced, and how he harnessed social platforms to bring the airline's unique voice to the forefront. Not only does Michael share his experience and insights but also challenges the audience to think differently about their approach to social media marketing. This is a frank conversation with a person who does not shy away from saying what he really thinks.


    01:16 Departure from Ryanair and the culture there

    07:12 The Strategy Development Process at Ryanair

    17:24 The Challenges of Implementing the Strategy

    26:03 The process of Creating and Reusing Content

    30:38 Leveraging Controversy for Brand Exposure

    38:36 The Launch of a New Social Media Agency

    46:12 Audience Q&A


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  • Just days before Margaret formally announced she was to leave her role as CMO at Siegel & Gale she joined That's What I Call Marketing live from New York and gave a Masterclass in Simplicity. Margaret been acclaimed as the unofficial ambassador of Ireland, been honored by many Irish organizations, including Douglas Hyde's Foundation, Irish Voice Women of Influence, and Top 100 Irish Americans in Business in the United States. When it comes to marketing she is equally honored, noted as a LinkedIn Top Voice in Marketing, The Drum B2B Marketer of the Year, is a Marketing Society fellow, has been published in Harvard Business Review, Fast Company, Forbes, and more. We chat through so much, Margarets Irish upbringing and her career journey, we talk about the importance of curiosity (she brings it up not me!), and continual learning. Margaret elaborates on the ethos of simplicity in branding, characterised by the intersection of clarity and surprise. We discuss the significance of brands delivering on their promises and the challenges of ensuring consistent, user-friendly experiences across multiple touchpoints. The conversation also dives into the evolving perceptions of Gen Z towards branding and social media, as well as the shifting roles and aspirations of marketing leaders. We also manage to get into Margarets passion for Irish fashion through here Wearing Irish initiative and indeed today she is wearing Irish from designer Helen McAlinden, we talk poetry, art and her advocacy for celebrating Irish creative talent on a global scale In this enlightening chat

    04:37 Margaret's Early Interest in Ads and Marketing

    20:13 The Importance of Simplicity in Branding

    24:28 Challenges and Barriers to Achieving Simplicity

    28:56 The Role of a Chief Marketing Officer

    31:26 The Expansive View of Branding

    37:56 The Impact of AI on Customer Experience

    54:51 The Influence of Brands on Culture

    56:36 Challenges for Marketing Leaders in 2024


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  • In this episode of 'That's What I Call Marketing', we have a deep dive into AI's impact on the marketing landscape with respected digital marketer and AI expert, Maryrose, who has over 20 years of experience in the industry. Maryrose shares her journey with digital marketing from its beginning stages, discusses the role and benefits of AI, addresses concerns around data security and diversity in AI tool development, and offers valuable advice on how marketers can embrace AI responsibly. She also discusses her AI Institute and the value it brings through practical and ethical AI training.

    01:44 Adapting to the Evolution of Digital Landscape

    06:16 Benefits of AI for Marketers

    08:16 Getting Started with AI in Marketing

    11:18 The Future of AI in Marketing

    20:44 Ethics and Diversity in AI

    26:45 The AI Institute and Training https://www.instituteofaistudies.com/


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  • Season 3 kicks off with the fantastic Dom Dwight of Bettys & Taylors of Harrogate. You may know Bettys and Taylors for their brand Yorkshire Tea and during his 15-year career Dom Dwight has seen Yorkshire Tea reach the number one spot for market share. In 2022, the brand claimed a 33.7% share of market. The ‘Everything’s Done Proper’ platform has been a driving force in the brand’s success since 2017. The long-term campaign continues to resonate with audiences, thanks in part to its use of celebrities such as Sir Patrick Stewart and Sean Bean. Today we talk about Doms path into marketing, a great example of a non linear path, we chat about the building blocks to the campaign and like all things famous it didnt happen overnight but how certain things have accelerated, we talk about the importance of tying the work to commerciality, we talk effectiveness, creating a summer banger, the world of Taylors coffee and the new role Dom is taking on in the business.


    03:34 Transition from Journalism to Copywriting & Exploring the World of Advertising

    13:55 Developing Yorkshire Tea's Tone of Voice

    27:14 The Importance of Enjoyable Advertising

    32:05 The Commercial Impact of Creative Advertising

    39:25 The Importance of Consistent Brand Messaging

    40:07 The Challenges and Successes of Taylor's Coffee Advertising

    53:33 Doms new role heading up Strategy, Innovation, and Diversification


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  • The never before told story behind the making of the iconic Guinness Christmas Ad. Tom Kinsella, Damian Devaney, Mark Nutley and Pat Hamill who were part of the team client and agency side that made this ad join That's What I Call Marketing to talk about creating what has become one of the greatest Christmas Ads of all time. We discuss the development process, challenges encountered, and the enduring success of the ad after its release. The conversation highlights the power of creativity, the critical role of collaboration between agencies and clients, and the essential element of investing time and effort into crafting an impactful advertisement. Some key moments include

    04:21 The Creative Process and Challenges25:57 The Role of Music in the Ad32:22 The Risk of Leaving Out the Pint39:26 The Importance of Distinctive Assets48:01 The Impact of the Ad Over Time56:22 The Power of Creativity and Investment

    But there is a tonne more, the power of music, the emergence of the line at the home of the black stuff, sweating the small stuff, investing in brilliance. So enjoy this episode about a story that has never been told. Special mention to the many others involved in the project:

    Mal Stevenson-Creative DirectorJohn Kelly-VoiceoverNoel Byrne - Head of productionMargo Tracey- ProducerMark Grehan/ Brendan Coyle – Account DirectorGrainne O’Driscoll-Account ManagerPaddy Gibbons-Sound MixApril Redmond - DiageoRonan Byrne - DiageoNiamh Cribbin - DiageoPaul Kelly - DiageoMark Ody - DiageoMichael Ioakimides - DiageoCharles Coase - Diageo

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  • As we come to the end of the year, here comes the reflection episode. But this one is a bit different, as it is a coming together of some amazing marketing podcasters. So today the episode is with Elena Hengel from the Marketing Architects Podcast, Marc Binkley and Vasilis Douros of the Sleeping Barber Podcast. Reflecting on hundreds of hours of interviews and research we share

    what we thought were some of the big themes in 2023some of our favourite campaigns from the US, Canada and Europe (linked below)we talk about being bearish or bullish on: MMM, B2B creativity, influencer marketing and so much more.we compare and even rank our favourite marketing brainiacs for the past year!

    Campaigns of the Year:


    Elena’s:

    Apple, “Titanium” - https://www.wsj.com/tech/personal-tech/apple-iphone-15-titanium-commercial-yat-kha-d9cd2db3 Salesforce, “AI Sheriff” - https://www.adweek.com/brand-marketing/salesforce-sheriff-matthew-mcconaughey-artificial-intelligence-wild-west/   

    Conor:

    Paddy Power: https://youtu.be/F9xW1W7Kw8Y?si=yhTFRYPZAivaFSoiYorkshire Tea Pack yer bags: https://youtu.be/F9xW1W7Kw8Y?si=yhTFRYPZAivaFSoiCommunion Saves: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCJfxC5i588

    Vassilis:

    WestJet’s “Holiday Heros” - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkZPyBcevaI =Canadian Tire “ Christmas Firsts” - https://www.publicis.ca/blog/canadian-tire-celebrates-holiday-firsts-

    Marc’s

    Fixed Rate Pizza - https://marketingawards.strategyonline.ca/winners/winner/2023/?e=154387&u=Advertising&n=Fixed-Rate+Pizza Spotify Wrapped Campaign

    This episode was sponsored by The Indie List www.theindielist.ie


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  • Christmas and marketing all wrapped up in one perfect episode. Emer McCarthy Senior Brand Manager at Diageo and Paul Mallon Head of Special Ops at Lucky Generals join host Conor Byrne to chat through the top Christmas ads of 2023, their all time favourites and their marketing highlights of 2023.


    John Lewis, Amazon, Asda, Morrison's, Yorkshire tea, Bank of Ireland, Co-op, Rockshore, Marks and Spencers, Guinness, Dunne Stores, Charlie's Bar, Hermes, Lego, Waitrose, Tayto, Epic Museum, Irish Independent, Coca Cola and Aldi all get discussed!


    02:12 Discussion on John Lewis Christmas Ad

    06:47 Analysis of Amazon's Christmas Ad

    11:31 Insights on Asda's Christmas Ad

    19:57 Thoughts on Co-op's Christmas Ad

    22:35 Review of Kevin the Carrot Ad

    26:34 Reflections on JD Sports' Christmas Ad

    28:32 The Story Behind Rockshore Ad

    35:17 The Role of Music in Ads

    38:54 Reflecting on Irish Christmas Ads

    43:26 Reviewing the Year in Marketing and Looking Forward to 2024


    This episode was recorded in TBWA Dublin by Oranges and Lemons production.

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  • Karen Martin CEO of BBH London and Dublin joins to talk about how she is continuing to build the legacy at BBH through creativity and kindness. 

    Karen started her marketing career at McConnells in Dublin before heading off to Australia where she worked in renowned agencies BMF and HOST. Karen has been instrumental in steering BBH London to continue to produce groundbreaking work for a diverse range of clients. Karens s commitment to creative excellence and strategic insight has ensured that the agency not only delivers compelling and effective campaigns but also builds strong, enduring relationships. Karen is known for her commitment to diversity and inclusion within the industry. This is a wide ranging discussion that covers client-agency relationships, the importance of great work and effectiveness, curiosity, diversity in the industry, the culture at BBH and the plans for BBH Dublin. We also discuss our shared ambition to turn Ireland into THE creative hotspot by 2027 and making Rita Laugh.


    00:00 Karen's Journey in the Advertising Industry

    09:11 The Importance of Curiosity in the Advertising Industry

    16:48 The Importance of Great Work and Effectiveness in Advertising

    20:59 The Concept of 'Wall of Work' and its Impact

    33:12 The Role of Culture and Kindness in the Workplace

    41:57 The Importance of Diversity in the Advertising Industry

    48:53 BBH Ireland and making Ireland a creative capital


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