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This week I had the privilege of chatting with friend of the show and friend of mine, theologian and author Dr. Roberto Che Espinoza (Body Becoming! Activist Theology!). We have a laid back conversation about rest, embodiment, finding the third way and taking time to dream about the world we wish to see. I also go on a mild rant about being funemployed and the shit show that is the current job market.
TIMESTAMPS:
Interview - 10:24
Post Interview - 47:44
Sip, Smoke, Read - 59:45
LINKS:
Donate to the Activist Theology Project.
Check out Dr. Roberto Che’s Espinoza’s website.
Follow @jerryjhlee, @workhap, and @apowermood for job hunting tips.
Read Atomic Habits, Essentialism, So Good They Can't Ignore You, Good to Great, and The First 90 Days for self-help goodness.
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This week I had the privilege of speaking with sex educator and sex empowerment coach Portia Brown (Froetic Sexology!) . We discuss her upbringing in evangelical spaces, the ways she subverted the sex scripts she was handed, and the deliberate pursuit of pleasure practices.
TIMESTAMPS:
Interview - 5:04
Post Interview - 52:09
Sip, Smoke, Read - 57:30
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This week we’re talking about missions! My co-hosts for this episode are podcasters, writers, and friends Kevin Garcia (Bad Theology Kills! A Tiny Revolution!) and Mason Mennenga (A People’s Theology! The Black Sheep Podcast!). Together we unpack our experiences with short term mission trips, the ideas and doctrines that informed so many of them, and how we feel on the other side of a faith change. We also hear stories from the Bad Apples.
TIMESTAMPS:
Interview - 2:07
Bad Apple Submissions - 49:15
Sip, Smoke, Read - 1:20:15
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This week, I have the absolute privilege of speaking with songwriter, producer, genius Joy Oladokun. We discuss their upbringing in Christian spaces, stepping into truth and the creative journey. We discuss her new album, Proof of Life, the songwriting and creative process, and the art of sifting through faith traditions to find the goodness. We also witness a second encounter with everyone’s favorite evangelist, Pashhtor Ben.
TIMESTAMPS:
Interview - 4:26
Car Rental Sketch - 25:29
Post Interview - 55:05
Sip, Smoke, Read - 1:05:10
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On this episode, I have the privilege of chatting with podcast hosts Sarah Heath and Justin Gentry (REVcovery!). We talk about what it was Iike deconstructing while in full time ministry, the struggles of making significant career changes, and the impostor syndrome that comes along with it. We also discuss what we have found that brings joy on the other side of a faith change and hear stories from the Bad Apples.
TIMESTAMPS:
Interview - 1:04
Bad Apple Submissions - 59:29
Sip, Smoke, Read - 1:37:07
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This week I have the absolute pleasure of chatting with podcaster, writer, and performer Holly Laurent (MEGA The Podcast!). We talk about her upbringing in evangelical spaces, and the faith change that ultimately led to Mega The Podcast. We talk about humor, creativity, walking the fine line of familiar and unfamiliar, and finding the lovely things on the other side of the evangelical bubble.
Brought to you by that time the senior pastor only talked to you because he knew it would be filed away as a sermon illustration opportunity.
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For the first episode of the season, I chat with podcaster, author, and academic Brad Onishi (Straight White American Jesus!). We discuss his upbringing as a Japanese American within evangelicalism, the origins of extremist Christian nationalism and what comes next, his new book, and I have a big announcement to make about this season!
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It’s the last DRCK of 2022! What a year it has been. I’m wrapping it all up with singer/musician/producer Lucy Dacus! We talk about her upbringing within a cerebral evangelicalism, VBS, Purity Culture, and unravelling what she was handed. We also talk about her latest full length, this year’s EP, her creative process and ways in how she has found community on the other side of a faith change. We also answer the age old question: was Lucy Dacus team Unforeseen Kiss or Sloppy Wet Kiss.
Brought to you by The Christmas Carpenter and Vanilla Spice Eggnog
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This week I got to chat with actor, director and writer Jon Huertas (This is Us! Castle! Sabrina the Teenage Witch!). We talked about his upbringing within the catholic church, moving out of religious spaces to nontheism, and reasons he let go of the dogma he was handed to instead embrace belief in humanity. We also talk about creativity, the hard work of believing in yourself, telling compelling stories, and we chat about This is Us.
Brought to you by Worship Dice
TIMESTAMPS
[8:35] A word from our sponsor: Worship Dice!
[13:51] Interview with Jon Huertas
[1:04:58] Sip, Smoke, Read
WORSHIP DICE SKIT
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This week we’re talking purity! This week’s guest co-host is Blair from TalkPurityToMe–we discuss growing up in house churches, and some of the ways we were taught about purity and modesty, as well as some of the ways we are still feeling the aftermath. We also hear stories from the Bad Apples.
Brought to you by Date Me Jesus
Timestamps:
Date Me Jesus (feat Virginia Spotts) - 22:15
Topic: Purity - 29:53
Modesty clip - 41:39
John Piper clip - 58:04
Bad Apple Submissions - 1:05:02
SSR - 1:21:21
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On this off-week I wanted to give you bad apples a sneak peak at the Patreon episodes and introduce my friend and new producer/editor, Joshua Delbridge aka Delbreezy! We talk about his backstory, being queer in evangelical spaces, and how we met. We also sip, smoke and read together. Enjoy!
Interview 1:42
Sip, Smoke Read 53:05
Irreverent Media Group
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DRCK Patreon
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DRCK Merch
https://dirtyrottenchurchkids.creator-spring.com/?
Intro theme " Up In My Jam (All Of A Sudden) – Kubbi"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDexBj46oNI
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This week I had the chance to chat with comedian, podcaster, author, director and musician Rhett McLaughlin (Rhett and Link! Good Mythical Morning! James and the Shame!). We talk about his upbringing in church, deconstructing while in the public eye, and creating therapeutic music. He also answers some questions from the bad apples.
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Time Stamps
Interview 5:44
Bad Apples, Good Questions 55:50
Sip, Smoke, Read 1:06:44
Irreverent Media Group
www.irreverent.fm
DRCK Patreon
https://www.patreon.com/dirtyrottenchurchkids
DRCK Merch
https://dirtyrottenchurchkids.creator-spring.com/?
Intro theme " Up In My Jam (All Of A Sudden) – Kubbi"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDexBj46oNI
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This week we talk prosperity! My guest cohost is podcaster, speaker, author and friend Tori Williams Douglass (White Homework! Go Home Bible You're Drunk!). Together we unpack the health and wealth gospel. We discuss how we were brought up in that theology, the harm it causes and how we unlearn some of the language on the other side. We also answer your questions, Adrian gets stuck talking to a pastor on an airplane and we hear stories from the bad apples.
Brought to you by Joel Houston owing us offering money and Tori's Peach (the cocktail).
Time Stamps
Bad Apples, Good Questions: 4:25
Pastor on a Plane: 21:21
Sip, Smoke, Read: 1:24:53
Irreverent Media Group
www.irreverent.fm
DRCK Patreon
https://www.patreon.com/dirtyrottenchurchkids
DRCK Merch
https://dirtyrottenchurchkids.creator-spring.com/?
Intro theme " Up In My Jam (All Of A Sudden) – Kubbi"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDexBj46oNI
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This week I got to chat with podcaster, writer, speaker, researcher and community organizer Phil Drysdale (The Deconstruction Network! The Phil Drysdale Show!). We discuss his upbringing as a church kid in the UK, how his faith changed and the work he has been doing within the deconstruction space. We talk about some of his research findings, common misconceptions about deconstruction and the psychological comfort of evangelicalism.
Brought to you by Sweaty Palms and Clenched B*tthole Questions
Time Stamps
Interview 6:42
Sip, Smoke, Read 1:20:13
Irreverent Media Group
www.irreverent.fm
DRCK Patreon
https://www.patreon.com/dirtyrottenchurchkids
DRCK Merch
https://dirtyrottenchurchkids.creator-spring.com/?
Intro theme " Up In My Jam (All Of A Sudden) – Kubbi"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDexBj46oNI
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Dirty Rotten Church Kids is back and this week I have the pleasure of bringing back podcaster, general menace and friend Janice Lagata (God Has Not Given!) This week we talked about passing the plate--how we were brought up learning about tithing, ways in which church taught us about possessions and how we approached tithing during our faith changes. We also listen to a christian broadway compilation album and hear stories from the Bad Apples.
Brought to you by #GoFundYourself, The Post Evangelical Guild and the pentacostal conga line.
Time Stamps
Hell Court 6:06
Bad Apples 42:00
Sip, Smoke, Read 1:18:49
Irreverent Media Group
www.irreverent.fm
DRCK Patreon
https://www.patreon.com/dirtyrottenchurchkids
DRCK Merch
https://dirtyrottenchurchkids.creator-spring.com/?
Intro theme " Up In My Jam (All Of A Sudden) – Kubbi"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDexBj46oNI
Hell Court Music "The People's Court 1981-1993 theme music"
https://youtu.be/7iTqoDH0vFU
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In case you missed it--we had the chance to make an appearance at our friend Kevin Garcia's Crowded Table Event in Atlanta. We recorded the show for those that couldn't make it, and took some time afterwards to recap and sip, smoke, read together. We talk about cancelled flights and driving through the night, discovering Josh is actually an Enneagram 7, and the work of building an online community with practical impact.
Brought to you by "it's not about Bodily Pleasure it's about GODILY Pleasure" and the Church Zone.
Time Stamps
Live Podcast! 00:12
Megachurch Instagram 4:40
Bad Apples Good Questions 25:50
After Hours w/ Kevin Garcia 55:54
Sip, Smoke, Read 1:10:16
The Crowded Table Community
https://thecrowdedtable.mn.co/
Irreverent Media Group
www.irreverent.fm
DRCK Patreon
https://www.patreon.com/dirtyrottenchurchkids
DRCK Merch
https://dirtyrottenchurchkids.creator-spring.com/?
Intro theme " Up In My Jam (All Of A Sudden) – Kubbi"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDexBj46oNI
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This week we had the pleasure of speaking with C. Davis (Deconstructing Colors!). We discuss her church upbringing, how actually believing the Bible often leads to deconstruction, and how the perceived safety found within cultural Christianity keeps many folks in the pews. We also talk about putting first things first and answer questions from the bad apples.
Brought to you by Porcelain Pay Day, Josh’s Irish accent and getting #FiredForWhiteJesus
Time Stamps
Update on "Don't Say Gay Bill" 11:00
Bad Apples, Good Questions 19:19
Interview 32:51
Sip Smoke Read 1:41:30
Deconstructing Cash App
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Irreverent Media Group
www.irreverent.fm
DRCK Patreon
https://www.patreon.com/dirtyrottenchurchkids
DRCK Merch
https://dirtyrottenchurchkids.creator-spring.com/?
C Davis theme song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOgbkunsC7c
Intro theme " Up In My Jam (All Of A Sudden) – Kubbi"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDexBj46oNI
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This week we talk about "culturally relevant" churches, how we were brought up in Hip Christianity ™, the ways people were leveraged to keep the machine running and the ways people were reduced to an attendance statistic. We also take a Texas Anti-Trans bill to Hellcourt, play a game of Improv Sunday School Songs and hear stories from the Bad Apples.
Brought to you by Zit and Snot in the Morning # CurseGodandDieF*cker
Time Stamps
Improv Sunday School Songs 14:30
Hellcourt 25:14
Main Topic 42:19
Sip Smoke Read 2:01:01
Vostok SOS
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Malteser International
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Nova Ukraine
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24 LGBTQ+ Organizations You Can Support Right Now
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Irreverent Media Group
www.irreverent.fm
DRCK Patreon
https://www.patreon.com/dirtyrottenchurchkids
DRCK Merch
https://dirtyrottenchurchkids.creator-spring.com/?
Intro theme " Up In My Jam (All Of A Sudden) – Kubbi"
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This week we had the pleasure of speaking with singer-songwriter, author, podcaster and activist Andre Henry. We discuss his new book, ‘All The White Friends I Couldn’t Keep’, and moving from racial reconciliation to the work of antiracism and decolonization. We talk about his story leaving white evangelicalism, how the personal is political and how he makes music for both resistance and rest. We also take John Cooper and Brian Suavé to Hell Court.
Brought to you by whipping your old Skillet cds at the stage while shouting “you started the war!”
Time Stamps
15:46 Hell Court
45:50 Interview
2:41:46 Sip, Smoke, Read
Andre Henry
https://www.andrehenry.co/
Andre Henry on The Liturgist's podcast
https://theliturgists.com/anti-racism-with-andre-henry-podcast-page/
Irreverent Media Group
www.irreverent.fm
DRCK Patreon
https://www.patreon.com/dirtyrottenchurchkids
DRCK Merch
https://dirtyrottenchurchkids.creator-spring.com/?
Intro theme " Up In My Jam (All Of A Sudden) – Kubbi"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDexBj46oNI
Familiar but Not playlist
https://open.spotify.com/playlist/0bPgd27skq4DbKOScAj6yE?si=3d55b21577b743dd
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In this episode we talk about the sins of the Flllleeeshhhh™️! We discuss how we were taught to deny self, distrust instincts and how messages of inadequacy had us decreasing so God could increase. We hear stories from the Bad Apples(CW: self harm and suicidal ideation), take a gross sermon illustration to Hell Court and play a game of Kirk Cameron Saves Valentine’s Day.
Brought to you by GumpChrist.
Timestamps:
Kirk Cameron Saves Valentines Day 15:20
Hell Court 31:17
Hating Your Flesh topic 56:32
Submissions 1:26:23
Sip, Smoke, Read 2:20:08
Irreverent Media Group
www.irreverent.fm
DRCK Patreon
https://www.patreon.com/dirtyrottenchurchkids
DRCK Merch
https://dirtyrottenchurchkids.creator-spring.com/?
Intro theme " Up In My Jam (All Of A Sudden) – Kubbi"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDexBj46oNI
Hell Court Music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iTqoDH0vFUXMvhgupfXggkgy4
CHILLVIBES
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtT5_PgLJlY
Most Old Beautiful love songs 80's 90's
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