• Did Premier secretly produce Ludwig Supraphonic shells in the 70's? Listen to find out! Founded in 1922, Premier is the most famous brand in British drum history and has a fascinating story. Mike Ellis is an expert on Premier and an avid restorer who shares the complete history with us plus tons of great stories along the way.
    Learn all about the comparisons between classic American brands and Premier through the brands evolution as they battled for market share, and inevitably what held Premier back from dominating the drum world. For one example, I was fascinated to learn that they produced Gun Sights during WW2 before the factory was bombed during the war.
    Mike Ellis is also known as "The Drum Fettler" and has a great youtube channel full of great restoration videos - check it out here:
    Enjoy this deep dive into Premier Drums!

  • We learn the role of drummers in the Military and the purpose they served as a form of communication and a way to keep the troops unified during battle starting with the US Colonies through to the Revolutionary War. Then we take a deep dive into the Civil War and learn all about the importance of the Fife and Drum Corp on both sides in the extremely bloody war that divided the country.
    Patrick Jones is a Fife and Drum Corps expert and regularly performs with Camp Chase Fifes and Drums at events all over the country. He also restores rope tension snare drums to exact detail. Patrick is a 5th grade history teacher and he does a great job of explaining all of these details so that people of any knowledge level of US History can understand this and learn a lot about Military drumming.
    Check out Camp Chase Fifes and Drums website at:
    and find them on YouTube at:
    A big thank you to Mark Robertson for connecting Patrick and I and being a Patron of the show and a good friend!

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  • Rob tells us the story of the postponed 2020 Chicago Drum Show and what we can expect in 2021. He also tells us about the 30 year history of the show going back to year one with some great stories along the way. We also chat about drum legend George Way and fill in some gaps in his history that has been covered in previous episodes on Way.
    This is an unprecedented year for many things around the world, and drum shows are no different. Rob was faced with a tough decision but I think he made the right choice to keep everyone safe.
    This episode also fills in info about George Way that is to supplement a previous episode with Ronn Dunnett title "Legacy of George Way" and Rob's previous episode titled "The Leedy Way".

  • (You do not need to have listened to part 1 to enjoy this episode) Part 2 covers the role of working drummers starting in the 1960's with session drummers, then Rock and Roll superstar's, through the 80's monster drumsets and up to modern times.
    Matt is a brilliant historian and educator, and he brings us a very fun and relaxed conversation about this amazing history of how drummers survived and worked throughout history. We cover interesting bits such as why you cant copyright a drum beat, why you drummers rarely get as much writing credits as other musicians, and how things slowly changed over time.
    We are discussing chapter 5 of Matts book "Kick It: A Social History of the Drum Kit". You can purchase the book here:
    Be sure to use promo code "AAFLYG6" to save 30% at checkout.
    Matt will be speaking at the 2021 Chicago Drum Show, I will post more details on social media as it draws closer. He was supposed to speak at the 2020 show but that was cancelled due to Covid-19.
    Part 1 is episode 36, go back and check it out if you haven't listened yet. You will love it!

  • Andy Zildjian is the president of Sabian Cymbals and takes us on a very fun journey through the history of the company that dates back to its founding in 1981 by his father, Robert Zildjian. This episode features tons of great information about his famous family in general and we discuss the factors that caused the split in the family and become the iconic Sabian cymbals that we know today.
    We learn all about how Robert Zildjian founded the company and how much of a visionary he was as a business man and used his international smarts to help Sabian come out of the gate as a major player in the cymbal company in the early 80's. Andy is continuing his fathers legacy by innovating and keeping the company on the cutting edge of cymbal technnology.

    Enjoy this episode!

  • We talk about celebrities who are also drummers such as Chevy Chase, Bob Crane, Johnny Carson, Andy Kaufman and many more.  It is amazing how many classic celebrities of the silver screen enjoyed playing the drums, and could have easily been famous musicians if they didn't become famous for acting and/or comedy.
    This is a fun episode that features information about people you may not know are drummers, and also info on Ringo and Keith Moon - two men who are known for being funny guys.
    Find Steven on social media at: @lgdpodcast and @wcartsentertainment

    Thanks for listening!

  • Uli is the Ludwig Marketing and Artist Relations Manager and shares the complete history of the iconic Black Beauty snare drum. We discuss how it originated as the 1919 "Inspiration Model" and then evolved into Black beauty we know today over the next 100 years.
    Learn about how Ludwig was not the first company to use the "Black Beauty" name, but they became the most famous. We talk about the different processes that have been used to make the shells and what makes them some of the most sought-after snare drums in the world.
    Check out Ludwig's website: and on social media at @ludwigdrumsHQ
    Find Uli Salazar on social media at @Damendrums
    Here is the information about the George B. Stone and Slingerland Black Beauty's -
    Slingerland - 1928
    George B. Stone.- 1925

  • Dom Famularo teaches us about Billy Gladstone, Sanford A, Moeller, and George L. Stone - the godfathers of drumming technique. He also shares many great stories from his journey through learning from the students of these great teachers including Shelly Manne, Jim Chapin, and Joe Morello. The lineage of educators that run from these three men runs so much deeper than I ever imagined.
    This episode features one of my favorite Buddy Rich stories that I have ever heard. Dom got to hang out with Buddy and learn about his background as a young Vaudevillian who was on the road with Moeller, Stone, and Gladstone.
    Dom is known as "Drummings Global Ambassador" and he does that name justice. He can be found at any given time performing clinics around the world and spreading the love of drums to everyone he meets.
    Dom's Website:
    The drum teacher lineage chart that we discussed:
    The Sessions Panel on youtube:
    Find Dom on Instagram at @Global2Dom

    Thanks for listening!

  • Bill shares the full story of C&C drums that began with the first kit he made for Carl Palmer, and then later grew to be one of the most popular boutique drum brands in the world. Before that, Bill Cardwell had a long background in vintage drum collecting and restoring including owning a drum shop and being involved with the very first issue of Not So Modern Drummer.
    Bill followed his passion and retired early from Bayer Corporation and followed his dream to work with drums and never looked back. He now spends every day working with his son Jake Cardwell building drums that are loved all over the world.
    Check out C&C drums at and on social media at @ccdrumco
    Enjoy this episode!

  • CEO of Modern Drummer Magazine, David Frangioni is this weeks guest. We discuss the history of Modern Drummer and talk about how drummers can make the best of the current "Stay Home" situation, plus we learn about his long and exciting career in the music world. 
    In March 2020, we are all faced with the Covid-19 virus that has everyone staying at home to help control the spread of the virus. David has some great information on what we can do to make the absolute best of this time and come out on the other side as better drummers.
    Check out his website at: and find him on social media @davidfrangioni
    Also, visit to see everything that is going on with MD and be sure to become a subscriber, find them on IG at @modern_drumer

  • Gary is a historian and expert on all things Ringo Starr. He has curated Ringo's collection of original Beatles drum kits and is full of great stories about Ringo that you won't hear from anyone else!
    We talk about a biography of Ringo, A description of all of his drum sets through the years, and Garys involvement with Ringo and his drums including over 4 million dollars in auction sales from Ringo's collection that Gary curated.
    Check out Gary's website at to learn about everything Ringo and also book Gary to speak at your event!
    Thanks for listening, if you like the show give me a rating and leave a review!

  • This James Brown song from 1969 made a very small splash at first, until it's beat was re-discovered in the 80's and changed the world of music forever. We take a deep dive learning everything about Clyde Stubblefield's Funky Drummer beat including how and where it was recorded, the gear he used, the impact on music, and Clyde's legacy. 
    Dylan Wissing has created "sample replays" for artists such as Kanye West, Eminem, TI, John Legend and many more. Find out how he recreates drum beats like Funky Drummer for mega artists so they can legally get the sound of classic breakbeats.
    Check out Dylan at to learn directly from Dylan! You can also check out his website here:

    Check out Getting The Sound on Instagram at @gettingthesound and on facebook at

    Thanks for listening to this funky episode! Find me on social media @drumhistory_podcast for daily drum videos and visit to for more Drum History.

  • This very special episode takes a deep dive into the history of New Orleans Jazz and features multiple interviews that I did in New Orleans while I was there to see the Rolling Stones and meet Charlie Watts in July, 2019. I was lucky enough to sit down with Stanton Moore and get the full history of Nola Jazz, and also go backstage with Walter Harris and Joe Lastie at Preservation Hall Jazz Club, plus even more information from Greg Lambousy of the Nola Jazz Museum.

    New Orleans is one of the few places that can be called the home of Jazz. We cover as much of this history as possible with the help of these four great guests. I also tell the story of why I was in New Orleans and the amazing Rolling Stones experience I had thanks to Don McAulay (Charlie Watts Drum Tech) and the crazy few days I had visiting the city. We end the episode with a great interview with Greg Lambousy about the Drumsville exhibit at the New Orleans Jazz Museum that features tons of amazing pieces of Drum History.

    -Stanton Moore is a world class clinician, educator and the drummer for Galactic. You can check him out at
    Here is a link to the Ned Sublette book that he mentioned:

    -Walter Harris is the touring drummer for the Preservation Jazz Hall Band and tours the world spreading New Orleans Jazz.
    -Joe Lastie was the touring drummer for 27 years and is still performing regularly at the Preservation Hall Jazz Club. Find out more about Pres Hall here:
    -Greg Lambousy is the director of the Nola Jazz Museum and was a wealth of information about New Orleans Jazz in general. Check it out here:

    Thanks for listening and I hope you enjoy this special episode!

  • Sezar teaches us the full History of Istanbul Agop, dating back to its origins in the Zildjian K Factory where Agop Tomurcuk learned how to make cymbals. We discuss how hand hammered cymbals are made and why Turkey is so special for cymbal making. We learn all about the history of the different lines Istanbul Agop offers and also the story behind the split with Istanbul Mehmet.
    Sezar Inceoglu is the International Sales Manager at Istanbul Agop and is a wealth of knowledge who is very passionate about the company.
    Check out Istanbul Agop online at and find them on instagram at @istanbulagop
    -Thanks for listening! FInd me on social media at @drumhistory_podcast and leave me a review if you like the show!

  • Matt takes us on a deep dive into the early mistreatment of drummers in the musicians labour unions dating back to the early 20th century, through the rise of the "Radio Stars" of the 1940's all the way up to the great session drummers like Hal Blaine and Earl Palmer. The episode kicks off by learning the origins of drummer jokes that we have all heard through our careers and is full of great information throughout.
    Dr. Matt Brennan is an author, musician, and educator at the University of Glasgow. He is a wealth of knowledge and is extremely down-to-earth and very passionate about drums. We are discussing his latest book: "Kick It: A Social History of The Drum Kit", specifically Chapter 5 - "Working Drummers, Musical Labour, Role Playing, and Authorship".
    This episode is Part 1 of our conversation, part 2 will come down the road and feature the Rock and Roll greats of the 60's and 70's along with writing credits for drummers.
    Matt provided a promo code to save 30% off "Kick It: A Social History of The Drum Kit".
    Use code "AAFLYG6" at this link:

    Thanks for listening!
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  • Drum Engraving goes back to the 1920's when drums such as the Slingerland and Ludwig Black Beauty's would become legendary thanks to the intricate engraving on the metal shells. Fast forward to today, John is the man behind the hand engraving for companies such as Ludwig, A&F, DW, Pearl, C&C and Joyful Noise.
    He is also the founder of the amazing publication "Not So Modern Drummer", which has been an amazing resource for vintage drum enthusiasts for almost 30 years. We go through the full history of NSMD and tons of other great vintage drum talk along the way.

    Check out Johns website at:

    here is the current version of Not So Modern Drummer which is run by George Lawrence:

    Here are some great NSMD articles by Bob Campbell about John Aldridge that go into further detail about this topic and have great pictures:

    Thanks for listening!

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  • George Way is one of the most innovative people in drum history, and is known as the godfather of the modern drum set. George passed away in 1969, but Ronn Dunnett has been carrying on the legacy of George Way Drums since 2006. 
    George worked for basically all of the classic American drum companies including Leedy, Slingerland, Rogers and many more. His designs were decades ahead of what was being used at the time and many of his inventions are still found on the modern drum set. Ronn and I go through the entire life of George H. Way and many of his greatest contributions, plus the many ups and downs he faced in his career. George was faced with tragedy towards the end of his ownership of his own company which later turned into Camco, but he continued to work in the world of drumming until the end of his life.
    Ronn tells us all about how he acquired George Way Drum's and the relationship he has had with DW about the use of the round lugs (a George Way invention). He is also the owner of Dunnet Classic Drums and makes some of the finest drums available today and is a master drum builder.
    -You can check out Dunnett Classic Drums here:

    -The George Way Drums website with the history I reference in this episode:

    -Here is a wonderful article written by Bob Campbell for Modern Drummer about George Way Drums and Ronn Dunnett:

    -Here is a link to Rob Cook's book "The Leedy Way" which is an amazing source for information on both Leedy and George Way:

    Thanks for listening!

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  • We learn the evolution of how early drummers learned their craft by watching other drummers who passed through town and by apprenticing with drummers such as Chick Webb and Art Blakey. Then came the advent of drum notation books which allowed young drummers to learn at home, followed by drum tapes and DVD's, and now social media which has drastically changed the learning process.

    Stephen also teaches us all about brain science and how we can better use our practice time to most efficiently evolve as drummers. We talk about tons of other great topics in this episode revolving around practice and learning from our percussion ancestors. Stephen Taylor is a wealth of information and really came very well prepared for the interview, enjoy!

    Check out Stephen's website here:

    And be sure to listen to his podcast "The Drum Show" available on all podcast platforms. 

    He is on social media as @stephensdrumshed

    In this episode, I also mention Queen City Drums - Check out this great Cincinnati drums at and find them on social media at QueenCityDrums

    Thanks for listening!

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  • Bernie purchased the original Slingerland radio frequency drum shell making machinery on an Ebay auction in 2001, and that began his decade long quest to figure out how they work. He went through hundreds of attempts to figure out how these incredibly complex machines created drum shells before he got help from from Jack Moritz, a former Slingerland employee who ran the machines for 22 years. Once that happened, Bernie was off and running and making drum shells in under 5 minutes under his new company, Stone Custom Drum.
    Learn all about how Radio Frequencies we're used to create drum shells, and also we discuss the recent acquisition of Slingerland by DW, plus tons of other great stories along the way.
    Stone Custom Drum has Slingerland in its DNA, but is its own brand that creates beautiful, one of a kind drums. You can check them out at
    In this episode, we also discuss Jim Moritz who is the owner of Chicago Drum. He was the guest on episode 4 and you can check him out at
    Thanks for listening!
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  • A Pearl tom mount on an ultra-rare Ludwig Top Hat and Cain kit? It happened... Steele teaches us his process of preserving and restoring classic drums in an effort to keep them as original as possible with tons of great stories along the way. We discuss the hierarchy of his process, beginning with diagnosing the wrap, followed by what to do if extra extra holes were drilled in the drums, and then fixing the bearing edges. He has an amazing way of looking at the history of drums and loads of experience with instruments that have been around longer than most of us have been alive.
    Steele Turkington is the owner of Kentville Drums in Sydney Australia and is a true master at the art of restoration. He is also the creator of the famous Kangaroo Hide Drumheads, learn all about him by visiting
    And find him on social media at @kentville_drums

    Thanks for listening!
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