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  • This episode was recorded on September 7, 2021.

    Angus Fletcher and I discuss creativity, the link between literature and resilience, what makes for compelling narratives, the different kinds of stories, and much more.

    Angus Fletcher is a Professor of Story Science at Ohio State's Project Narrative, the world's leading academic think-tank for narrative theory. He is also the author of Wonderworks: The 25 Most Important Inventions in the History of Literature.

    Find more Angus Fletcher on his website: https://AngusFletcher.co

    [00:00] Intro
    [01:21] What is Project Narrative?
    [02:27] "Stories are the most powerful things ever invented. They're the most powerful tool we possess" Angus Fletcher
    [03:04] "When you realize stories have the power to change how our mind works, to troubleshoot it, to make it more resilient, more creative, more scientific—to do all these things... When you couple the power of stories with the human brain, you throw open the doors to anything" AF
    [03:53] The problem with literary studies. How stories empower us and improve performance
    [07:06] Wonderworks and the story of courage in Homer's Iliad
    [12:40] "Literature and scripture are synonyms. They mean 'that which is written.' So [something] more fundamental than any technology... Is simply that sense of spiritual experience" AF
    [13:18] The Neuropsychology of Anxiety by J. Grey
    [14:44] What are the 2 kinds of stories?
    [19:12] Story thinking
    [19:22] "Human cognition is largely narrative. We process the world narratively" AF
    [22:12] "The wonder of being on this earth... is to build stories and [empower people] to tell their own" AF "And to unite us in a collective story so we can work towards the same ends" JP
    [23:00] Why are certain stories so compelling?
    [24:48] The zone of proximal development
    [25:44] "Being enthralled is a manifestation of the instinct that specifies the zone of proximal development" JP
    [31:24] The ideal spirit transcending the individual; Jung's Pleroma
    [32:14] "The flip side of anxiety is creativity—they're both about restless energy" AF
    [33:31] What's the source of dreams?
    [33:55] "We have this vast knowledge in embodied action." A great storyteller takes "images that reflect a compelling pattern of behavior [and verbalizes them]” JP
    [34:56] Abstract representation of patterns as a dream-source
    [38:43] Computational power, stories, and the differences between the abstract and particular
    [38:48] "Much of what drives the demand for higher computational resources is... producing artificial realities for fantasy simulation" JP 
    [45:51] Christianity and Star Wars
    [46:35] "Star Wars is Christianity for atheist nerds" JP
    [46:56] "We are most happy when we don't perceive ourselves as inheriting an archetypal story" AF
    [48:16] "We see in stories, and this is partly why our eyes are adapted... so that people can see [the white in] our eyes. It's really important because [our eyes point at] what they're interested in. We can see what they value [and] infer their motivation" JP
    [50:36] Literature and psychedelic experiences
    [51:27] "In psychotherapy... you're trying to hammer the person's narrative into a single... functional unit" JP
    [55:31] Trauma, unconscious mapping, and dream analysis
    [56:56] "Any territory you cannot perceive through the overlaid projection of a narrative map is traumatizing" JP 
    [59:59] Jung, Joseph Campbell, and Erich Neumann
    [01:02:51] Jung vs Darwin on stories
    [01:10:18] "Literature can build emotional and intellectual resilience" AF
    [01:14:55] Being adaptive is “to be emotionally and intellectually resilient" AF
    [01:15:54] Creative training; measuring creativity

    #Creativity #Stories #Jung #Literature #Darwin

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  • This episode is comprised of multiple Season 4 episodes from the podcast, specifically, Jonathan Pageau, James Orr & Nigel Biggar, Ian McGilchrist, Lawrence Krauss, Christopher Kaczor and Matthew Petrusek and Bishop Barron.

    We have paired this compilation with the release of the full video series on YouTube in one video.

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  • This episode was recorded on September 10th 2021.

    Jordan Peterson, Bishop Barron, John Vervaeke, and Jonathan Pageau have a round table to explore ideas and theories of Meaning. All three guests have been on the podcast before, and all share Jordan’s passion for the universal truths of human experience. This deep discussion explores the roots of Meaning and religious significance.

    Bishop Barron is the founder of Word on Fire and the auxiliary bishop of the archdiocese of LA.

    John Vervaeke is a colleague of Jordan’s and an associate professor at the University of Toronto since 1994. He teaches courses on reasoning, cognitive development, and higher cognitive processes.

    Jonathan Pageau is a symbolic thinker, YouTuber, and class carver of orthodox icons.

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    Find more Bishop Barron on YouTube: https://youtube.com/user/wordonfirevideo
    And here: https://wordonfire.org/

    Find more John Vervaeke online on his website: http://johnvervaeke.com
    John's YouTube channel: https://youtube.com/channel/UCpqDUjTsof-kTNpnyWper_Q

    Find more Jonathan Pageau on YouTube: https://youtube.com/channel/UCtCTSf3UwRU14nYWr_xm-dQ 
    Jonathan's website: http://www.pageaucarvings.com

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    [00:00] Preview
    [01:30] Intro
    [02:40] Everyone gives their answer to “What is meaning?”
    [03:30] “We're using meaning as a metaphor... something similar to the way a sentence works. It has intelligibility to it that connects us to the world... so that we can interact and be informed by it” Jon Vervaeke
    [07:22] “Our mental framing is transparent like a pair of glasses, but there are times we need to step back and, by taking the glasses off and examining them, consider our framing structure" JV
    [09:10] “When you look at the world there is a central point of focus. When you focus on the point with your eyes it becomes very clear... until we no longer perceive anything by the edge of our vision. It's nothingness, it's just not there" Jordan Peterson
    [13:56] Bishop Barron's view on meaning and religion
    [14:23] “I would say that meaning is to be in a purposeful relationship to a value" Bishop Robert Barron
    [17:55] “So I'm talking to you, which I believe is a good, but it's nested in a higher good and a still higher good, so finally I want not just this particular good but good itself—that's a religious relationship" BRB
    [18:20] Pageau’s opening thoughts on meaning and religion
    [19:56] “The reason we perceive hierarchy is because we are always judging... or trying to evaluate whether something’s good" Pageau
    [20:31] Jordan’s brief foray into “mini-celebrations”
    [21:53] The idea of revelation
    [24:46] “It isn't obvious to me that we see objects—we see patterns" JP
    [27:40] “Like a Rolling Stone—it wasn't the first song I liked, but it was the first that rocked my world and rearranged my mind, and I think that's where real value is" BRB
    [28:42] Underlying causes of the crisis of meaning
    [30:10] “Something that starts with Scotus... and goes into the heart of the scientific revolution is that there’s no such thing as levels—reality just is" JV
    [31:00] Science around the hierarchy of intelligibility and connectedness
    [33:00] What is science?
    [39:00] “There’s an epistemic hierarchy and science does not belong on the top" BRB
    [42:00] “As scientists, we are motivated by a narrative we don't understand scientifically… The whole enterprise is driven by a dream whose reality can't be encapsulated within the process itself" JP
    [44:00] The ignorance in assuming science OR religion are correct
    [44:40] Eminationist ontologies
    [55:30] Religious experiences
    [01:07:30] The book of Revelations as a psychedelic experience.
    [01:17:30] The Psychedelic problem and why psychedelics are useful in communal experiences.
    [01:26:00] Jordan’s biblical lectures
    [01:32:00] What are the guests working on?
    [01:36:00] Beauty in churches
    [01:38:00] Growing up Christian
    [01:44:00] Possibility is real
    [01:50:00] Joining religion and science
    [02:03:30] Wrapping up

    #Meaning #Psychology #Religion
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  • This episode is comprised of multiple Season 4 episodes from the podcast, specifically, Jonathan Pageau, Randall Wallace, Iain McGilchrist, Bishop Barron, Stephen Fry, and John Vervaeke.

    We have paired this compilation with some exciting upcoming episodes in the form of next Monday’s podcast which is a conversation between Jordan, Jonathan Pageau, Bishop Barron, and John Vervaeke where they discuss many of the same concepts you will hear about today - as well as the role of the psychedelics in religious tradition. 


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  • This episode was recorded on September 8th 2021.

    Saifedean Ammous is an expert on Bitcoin with a PhD from Columbia University. He joins Dr. Peterson to discuss decentralization, different schools of economics, the Fiat vs. Bitcoin standards, and much more.

    Dr. Ammous is the author of The Bitcoin Standard, widely considered the essential book on the economics of Bitcoin. He also hosts a podcast of the same name. His new book, The Fiat Standard, should be out in November.

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    Find Saifedean here: https://twitter.com/saifedean

    Saifedean’s online learning platform: http://saifedean.com
    (20% off by using the code “Peterson”)

    The Bitcoin Standard: http://saifedean.com/thebitcoinstandard

    The Fiat Standard: http://saifedean.com/thefiatstandard

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    [00:18] Intro
    [02:34] What are hard monetary assets?
    [06:13] The argument for bitcoin being the best hard money ever created
    [09:11] "Bitcoin only has users... no admins. There is nobody with a master key" - Saifedean Ammous
    [10:36] How the Bitcoin network functions using "consensus parameters"
    [15:49] "The way that Bitcoin came about seems... virtually impossible to believe" - Jordan Peterson
    [18:27] Other schools of economics (Austrian) vs. the most common today (Keynesian)
    [20:46] "So the Austrian school of economics... tilts you more towards an appreciation of non-centrally controlled, distributed networks, and emphasis on the individual actor" - JP
    [23:25] Paul Samuelson and communist economic expectations of centralized planning post-WW2
    [25:27] Dr. Ammous' academic background
    [27:14] Climate change. The push towards central planning, implying certain people or groups know the exact consequences and solutions to future economic developments
    [29:41] "I've been struck by the problem of unintended consequences and the irreducible complexity of things. We can talk about the problem of climate change, but those words are incredibly deceiving" - JP
    [34:16] Highlighting the crucial role of the entrepreneur in Austrian economics
    [40:46] Saifedean reflects on the views held by the central bank, governments, and mainstream economists on money—as opposed to Bitcoin's structuring and the Austrian school of thought
    [41:43] "From the Austrian perspective, money is a product of the market and not the invention of the state. The state's meddling in money... is irrational and cannot succeed for the same reasons central planning does not succeed" - SA
    [45:50] Overview of Dr. Ammous' book The Fiat Standard
    [54:40] Current inflation in Western democracies. The devastating effect of hyperinflation on the average person
    [58:15] "Money is an incredible technology for lowering our time preference" - SA
    [58:59] "The 20th century was a global trainwreck of watching the money preference rise. Generation after generation... witnessed their money devalue" - SA
    [01:02:32] Why some efforts in energy production are misguided
    [01:06:39] The Fiat Standard
    [01:10:29] Why are we allowing people to mine bitcoin?
    [01:12:46] The genius that went into the production of the Bitcoin code
    [01:23:14] The crazy reality of decision-making at climate change panels
    [01:26:36] Fiat-based currency jobs and the Zoom warriors disconnected from the physical world
    [01:31:09] "A lot of the problems of the 20th century, in my opinion, have their roots in highly inflationary fiat currency" - SA
    [01:31:18] Covering some of the common objections against Bitcoin
    [01:39:45] "We are always going to find more reasons to print money" - SA
    [01:41:43] Ammous’ online learning platform
    [01:48:29] The growth of Saifedeen.com and the parameters attributed to its success
    [01:50:05] The possibility of decentralizing societal accreditation
    [01:50:21] "I've talked to seriously wise academics who know that there is almost zero financial knowledge in universities [today]... There is tremendous residual value, however, in the accreditation" - JP
    [01:56:18] Wrapping up

    #Crypto #FiatStandard #Bitcoin #JordanPeterson #Decentralization
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  • In our second weekly compilation, we are investigating the various methods and practices that humans use to conceptualize God. This investigation leads us down the path of exploring meaning and wonder. What does it mean to live as though God exists? Why are we awestruck when viewing a beautiful painting? Why does walking inside a great Cathedral render us speechless? What is the relationship between these experiences and God? 

    Jordan talks about how living as though god exists is some form of evidence that we as a society hold these values in high regard.
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  • This episode was recorded on October 18th, 2021.

    Mustafa Akyol joins me to discuss Muslim history and tradition. We touch on subjects like Jesus Christ from a Christian and Muslim perspective, the Virgin Mary's role in the Quran, separation of church and state as an ideology, the dangers of literalism when facing religious texts, and much more.

    Mustafa Akyol is a senior fellow at the Cato Institute's Center for Global Liberty and Prosperity, where he focuses on the intersection of public policy, Islam, and modernity. He's contributed as an opinion writer for the New York Times since 2013, covering politics and religion in the Muslim world.

    Published by W. W. Norton, his 2011 book, "Islam Without Extremes: A Muslim Case for Liberty," presents a strong argument for Islamic liberalism. The book was long-listed for the Lionel Gelber Prize for best nonfiction book. It was also praised by The Financial Times as "a forthright and elegant Muslim defense of freedom." His other books include "Reopening Muslim Minds" and "The Islamic Jesus."

    Find Mustafa's most important book, "Reopening Muslim Minds," here
    https://amazon.com/Reopening-Muslim-Minds-Freedom-Tolerance

    His book "The Islamic Jesus," discussed in this episode, is at
    https://amazon.com/Islamic-Jesus-Became-Prophet-Muslims

    Find a free PDF of his book "Why, As a Muslim, I Defend Liberty" at
    https://libertarianism.org/books/why-muslim-i-defend-liberty

    Or visit his page at the Cato Institute:
    https://cato.org/people/mustafa-akyol
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    [00:00] Introduction
    [02:47] Regarding the separation of church and state, what do Christians and Muslims have in common?
    [10:36] What are some similarities between Judaism, Christianity, and Islam?
    [11:05] "I see the world's history, and I see a Judeo-Christian/Islamic history because it's all Abrahamic monotheism starting at Judaism." Mustafa Akyol
    [11:46] What the Three Abrahamic religions have in common—monotheism, rooting in the same tradition; and strange insistence on a book as the bedrock of culture
    [12:45] Unique ideas of religious and societal tolerance through different ages in history
    [21:10] The connection Jesus and Islam
    [28:45] What is the totalitarian impulse?
    [29:30] "I think it is an understatement of the severity of the totalitarian problem to attribute it merely to the religious." - Jordan Peterson
    [31:27] Critiquing the inevitable flaws of the purely secular state. The benefits of a higher law on the unification of people and not deifying human rulers
    [34:59] "There is another value in Sharia law—[it] was separate from the rulers, even above the rulers." - Mustafa Akyol
    [39:35] Briefly touching on the ruling class in Saudi Arabia. A brief history of the Wahhabi's rise to power, and how a group of extreme thinkers gained more power than would have been naturally possible
    [45:36] Bad Ideas from the West are, in fact, devastating
    [48:45] A modern Muslim's take on religion, power, and the birth of Islam with the prophet Muhammad
    [55:15] "The whole thorny moral problem of what to do when you are being oppressed is not something let's say as a species we have figured out." - JBP
    [01:18:51] "The inherent problem with literalism in interpretation. The perspective of the reader creates so much of the truth in this model that they can then impose on the world around them." - JBP
    [01:26:20] Regarding reason and Sharia law, one group has said that Sharia indicates what's inherently right and wrong in the world. Another group, that it only creates that difference through the imposition
    [01:27:01] Mary's role in the Quran and Islamic tradition
    [01:31:29] The influence of gnostic Christian gospels on Muhammad in Mustafa's opinion. The odd state of the Jewish Christians who were accepted by neither side
    [01:35:16] Final questions on Jesus Christ from Christian and Muslim perspectives
    [01:43:35] Wrapping up
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  • In this episode, we investigate the principle set forth by Vilfredo Pareto (an Economist born in 1848) which specifies that 80% of consequences come from 20% of the causes, asserting an unequal relationship between inputs and outputs. This principle serves as a general reminder that the relationship between inputs and outputs is not balanced. The Pareto Principle is also known as the Pareto Rule, the 80/20 Rule, or the Matthew Principle.

    Jordan often uses the principle to demonstrate the harsh reality that inequality is not a simple issue, and therefore has no simple answer.

    Sections:
    [1:20] - 2017 Maps of Meaning 01 (Context and Background)
    [10:45] - 2017 Personality 13 Existentialism via Solzhenitsyn and the Gulag
    [17:01] - Biblical Series VIII The Phenomenology of the Divine
    [21:34] - 12 Rules for Life Tour - Melbourne, Australia.

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  • Welcome to the Jordan B Peterson podcast season 4, episode 54. This episode was recorded on June 14th, 2021. 

    Dr. Clay Routledge is an existential psychologist, writer, and professor at North Dakota State University. He's also a senior research fellow at the Archbridge Institute and an editor for Profectus magazine. Dr. Routledge studies basic psychological needs and how they're shaped by family, social bonds, economics, and broader cultural worldviews. He has published over 100 scholarly papers, co-edited three books on existential psychology, and written several books, including Nostalgia: A Psychological Resource, Supernatural: Death, Meaning, and the Power of the Invisible World. 

    A lot of Dr. Routledge’s work - like Dr. Peterson's - focuses on the need for meaning. The two had a wide-ranging conversation about loneliness, meaning, nostalgia, Terror Management Theory, and existential psychology. They also shared views on human progress, responsibility, religion, and UFOs.

    Dr. Clay Routledge Website: https://www.clayroutledge.com/

    Dr. Rouledge Article on Meaning: https://www.archbridgeinstitute.org/2020/05/28/why-meaning-matters-for-freedom-and-flourishing/

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    [00:00] Intro 
    [00:18] Jordan B. Peterson introduces guest Dr. Clay Routledge
    [01:55] How Dr. Clay Routledge got into his work
    [09:43] Terror Management Theory
    [18:33] The resistance to Terror Management Theory
    [22:01] Existential Psychology
    [27:09] The psychology of nostalgia
    [34:31] What elicits nostalgia
    [40:36] Pain responses
    [44:58] Reminiscence therapy and nostalgia
    [47:47] Collective nostalgia
    [54:48] Religion and its cultural impact
    [01:04:03] Secularism and UFOs 
    [01:08:33] Politics, control, and meaning
    [01:16:36] The different kinds of meaning and the freedom of restraint
    [01:24:17] Filling the hole of religion
    [01:28:34] Human progress
    [01:32:38] Dr. Routldge's survey of American progress amongst university students and the apocalypse
    [01:43:43] Meaning across different cultures
    [01:48:18] Religion in free-market societies and ethical principles
    [01:51:56] Dr. Routledge's qualitative taxonomy on meaning
    [01:55:18] Responsibility and meaning
    [02:02:12] Loneliness
    [02:07:35] Dr. Routledge’s purpose with his work
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    #JordanPeterson #Nostalgia #TerrorManagementTheory #Loneliness #Meaning

    Visit www.jordanbpeterson.com to view more information about Jordan, his books, lectures, social media, blog posts, and more.

    Jordan B. Peterson is a professor of psychology at the University of Toronto, a clinical psychologist, and the author of the multi-million copy bestseller 12 Rules for Life: An Antidote to Chaos, #1 for nonfiction in 2018 in the US, Canada, the UK, Australia, New Zealand, Sweden, the Netherlands, Brazil, and Norway, and slated for translation into 50 languages.

    Dr. Peterson has appeared on many popular podcasts and shows, including the Joe Rogan Experience (#877, #958, #1006), The Rubin Report (12 Rules for Life: An Antidote to Chaos, Free Speech, Psychology, Gender Pronouns), H3H3 (#37), and many more. Dr. Peterson’s own podcast has focused mainly on his lecture series, covering a great deal of psychology and historical content. Jordan is expanding his current podcast from lectures to interviews with influential people around the world. We hope you enjoy this episode and more to come from Dr. Peterson in the future.
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  • In this episode, Mikhaila hosts Dr. Jordan B. Peterson and Africa Brooke. Africa shares her experience with writing her viral article. She offers some insight on how to be conscious of one's actions and finding their authentic voice. In addition to discussing wokeness, they also delve into politics in connection to religion, in-group preference, and accepting other perspectives. Check out how Africa was influenced by Dr. Peterson in this episode.

    Africa Brooke is a London-based Consultant and Mindset Coach that wrote a letter entitled: "Why I’m Leaving the Cult of Wokeness", https://ckarchive.com/b/d0ueh0h67mpd -- which has been read by over four million people. Africa aims to help people restore their dignity and define their values and boundaries as entrepreneurs or any individuals who require a mindset rewire.

    If you enjoyed this, be sure to subscribe!

    Why I'm Leaving the Cult of Wokeness - https://ckarchive.com/b/d0ueh0h67mpd
    Find more Africa Brooke on her website: https://AfricaBrooke.com/
    Follow her Instagram account: https://Instagram.com/AfricaBrooke

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    [0:00] Intro
    [03:16] "Why I am leaving the cult of wokeness.", an excerpt from a viral article read by Mikhaila.
    [04:19] Africa Brooke's background.
    [06:15] The start of Africa’s letter and its impact.
    [07:10] Africa's beliefs before writing this letter.
    [09:28] How Africa realized her actual values.
    [16:15] Africa’s experience and reaction with people doubting her.
    [22:51] What drove Africa Brooke to write the letter.
    [25:20] Suggestions on switching directions when you know your decision is wrong.
    [27:43] The idea that all white people are racist and in-group preference.
    [35:25] When politics becomes a religion.
    [39:17] Listening to different people's views.
    [43:41] How Africa reflected on her voice.
    [51:20] When Africa started listening to Dr. Peterson.
    [54:26] Dr. Peterson and Marvel Comics.
    [56:03] Africa’s personal consequences post-viral letter.
    [01:02:24] The acknowledgment of the positive responses from her letter.
    [01:08:23] Wrap Up. Find Africa Brook on Instagram @AfricaBrooke and on her website AfricaBrooke.com

    #MikhailaPeterson #AfricaBrooke #JordanPeterson #Wokeness #Racism
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  • This episode was recorded on June 6th, 2021.

    Dr. Peterson, Steven Pinker, and Jonathan Haidt sit down to discuss truth, how societies function, utopias, the role of religion, & more.

    Steven Pinker is a psychology professor at Harvard. He's the author of Enlightenment Now and The Blank Slate. His 12th book, "Rationality," is out now. Dr. Pinker has received many awards and often writes for The Guardian and The NY Times.

    Jonathan Haidt is a social psychologist at NYU Stern. His research focuses on the intuitive foundations of morality across cultures. He's the author of The Righteous Mind and The Coddling of the American Mind. His next book, "Three Stories about Capitalism," is expected by 2022.

    Follow Steven's Twitter:
    https://twitter.com/sapinker

    Read Steven Pinker's book:
    https://stevenpinker.com/publications/rationality-what-it-why-it-seems-so-scarce-and-why-it-matters

    Find more Jonathan Haidt here:
    https://www.thecoddling.com/

    Read Jonathan's book:
    https://www.amazon.com/Coddling-American-Mind-Intentions-Generation/dp/0735224919

    Jonathan's most recent essay:
    https://www.persuasion.community/p/haidt-monomania-is-illiberal-and
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    [0:00] Intro
    [00:18] Jordan introduces guests Dr. Stephen Pinker and Dr. Jonathan Haidt
    [02:47] Catching up with the recent research and endeavors of Jonathan Haidt. Elaborating on the framework of moralism versus true and false when viewing the world
    [07:00] How cognitive biases lead to a more pessimistic view of the world
    [10:30] The problems with the idea of utopia and its beneficial uses when properly inserted into a society's belief (religious) structure
    [18:00] Examining the role group religions play in bringing people together
    [24:30] Jordan highlights the role he believes Christianity had in turning people's attention to the evil within us all
    [29:30] Reflections on Enlightenment Now. How do you engage people towards a higher set of goals without religion as a backbone?
    [38:00] Is the world we live in a new frontier based on the expanding influence of the internet and social media on individuals' decision-making?
    [48:00] Discussion on the dangers posed by the new world to the endurance of liberal democracies
    [56:00] Finding truth in the post-2012 social media revolution
    [1:06:00] The rate of change in modern life
    [1:07:00] The Righteous Mind, Haidt's interpretation of the religious instinct/impulse and why he gets a positive reaction from religious crowds
    [1:06:00] Saying goodbye to Dr. Pinker due to time constraints
    [1:17:30] The human ability for imitation through learning or exploring
    [1:25:30] Religion as a social function? Or an inherent impulse inside us all to find higher states?
    [1:29:30] Comparing views on the central uniting principle of groups, societies, or human beings for that matter
    [1:33:00] Is the extreme claim that power is the central driving factor of western European civilization grounded in reality?
    [1:37:52] Is having a common purpose or shared beliefs a more powerful way of bringing people together?
    [1:45:00] Recounting Haidt's research on disgust in both humans and animals
    [1:52:00] Exploring any correlation to disgust levels and political beliefs/alliance
    [02:02:30] Wrapping up
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  • This episode was recorded on October 4th, 2021

    Dr. Jordan Peterson and Michael Shellenberger exchange ideas about the Apocalyptic Environmentalism that is getting mainstream coverage. Michael sheds light on the true impact of climate change and the theory of nuclear peace. As they dive into Michael’s new book, “San Fransicko: Why Progressives Ruin Cities'', Dr. Peterson shares his view on the book and what he enjoyed about it.

    Michael Shellenberger is the best-selling author of Apocalypse Never: Why Environmental Alarmism Hurts Us All, a Time Magazine “Hero of the Environment,” and “Green Book Award” winner. He is also the Founder and President of Environmental Progress, an independent and nonprofit research organization based in Berkeley, California. He advises policymakers around the world and has writings and TED talks viewed over 5 million times.

    Read Michael’s books: https://shorturl.at/eijoL

    Check out Environmental Progress: https://environmentalprogress.org

    Follow Michael on Twitter: https://shorturl.at/amLO2

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    [00:00] Jordan introduces this week's guest, Michael Shellenberger.
    [01:07] The meaning of “Time” magazine “hero of environment” and “green book award winner”.
    [01:33] Michael’s thoughts on the impact of environmentalism on mental health.
    [02:59] Who Michael Shellenberger is and his book "Apocalypse Never."
    [05:49] Cognitive Behavior Therapy.
    [07:44] Dr. Peterson’s view towards dealing with problems.
    [08:44] Being a good person according to Dr. Peterson.
    [11:59] The religious movement of Apocalyptic Environmentalism.
    [13:19] Dr. Peterson and values.
    [21:17] Death of God and the highest ideal.
    [24:02] Nature and the positive feminine.
    [25:04] 'The Great Mother' by Erich Neumann.
    [27:33] The relationship between plastic waste and OCD.
    [29:57] Vegetarianism & the ritual of saying grace.
    [31:04] Why Dr. Jordan thinks Becker's book is flawed.
    [32:09] Erich Neumann 'The Origins and History of Consciousness.'
    [36:31] Mass Extinction.
    [37:49] Land production according to Michael Shellenberger.
    [38:34] Temple Grandin.
    [43:58] How sweatshops save the planet.
    [45:23] Dr. Peterson shares his perspective on subsistence farming.
    [48:35] The smart environmentalists.
    [52:07] The food surpluses and population declines.
    [53:12] The reduction of carbon emissions.
    [55:27] Dr. Peterson comments on being at a subsistence level.
    [56:11] Michael’s connection between benevolence and energy transformation.
    [57:12] Dr. Peterson comments on the relationship between work and energy.
    [57:40] Depression and the environment.
    [59:53] Displacement and nuclear power plants.
    [01:02:16] The theory of nuclear weapons & peace.
    [01:06:19] The unwarranted apocalypse.
    [01:08:21] Shellenberger comments on climate change.
    [01:09:48] Dealing with the runaway positive feedback loop.
    [01:12:58] Dr. Peterson and “safe routes”.
    [01:14:10] Dr. Peterson’s perspective towards apocalypses.
    [01:15:15] Dealing with crisis and resilience to different kinds of catastrophes.
    [01:17:09] Prosperity and eradicating poverty.
    [01:20:59] The environmental problems we should address.
    [01:24:47] The problem with the free market obsession.
    [01:27:42] San FranSicko - Shellenberger’s book.
    [01:32:25] Pathological altruism.
    [01:34:08] Dr. Peterson’s thoughts on excessive compassion.
    [01:37:43] The hero's journey.
    [01:38:46] The most reliable cure for alcoholism according to Dr. Peterson.
    [01:40:04] Victor Frankl, blaming the victim, and the positive maternal.
    [01:45:04] How people in Amsterdam and America deal with addiction.


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  • This episode was recorded on September 9th.

    Dr. Jordan Peterson and John Anderson exchange ideas about the freedom of conscience, policies, and mandatory vaccines. Dr. Jordan shares his experience with policies while Anderson shares tips on conducting proper debates while commenting on the governmental debates. See how Australia connects to their discussion and how social media came into play.

    John Anderson is a sixth-generation farmer and grazier from New South Wales, who spent 19 years in the Australian Parliament. After serving in politics, Anderson launched a web-based interview program, Conversations with John Anderson, featuring interviews with public intellectuals. He continues to serve the interests of Australia’s rural and regional communities.

    Find more John Anderson on his website https://johnanderson.net.au/
    Check out his YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/JohnAndersonConversations
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    ● [00:00] Dr. Peterson introduces this week’s guest, John Anderson.
    ● [03:32] "The problem with fighting fire with fire is that you end up burning." Dr. Peterson
    ● [03:54] What’s happening in Australia and the west?
    ● [04:26] John’s tips for proper debates.
    ● [06:17] How Anderson views Australia’s regime.
    ● [06:40] China’s imposed threat on Australia.
    ● [09:09] John quoting Henry Kissinger on freedom.
    ● [09:47] The legality of mandatory vaccines in western culture and the blitz story during WWII in Britain.
    ● [11:48] Anderson’s analogy of democracy.
    ● [14:31] Dr. Peterson’s advice on policies.
    ● [16:05] The lockdowns in Australia.
    ● [22:07] Dr. Peterson’s perspective towards proper political force on vaccinations.
    ● [21:26] The cost of safety.
    ● [25:29] John’s opinion on debates.
    ● [26:56] Breaking down trust in the government.
    ● [31:53] How governmental debates should be conducted.
    ● [37:21] Freedom of Conscious.
    ● [43:10] The best rationale for mandatory vaccines.
    ● [53:01] Lockdowns and the dangers of mandating medical procedures.
    ● [59:46] The power of social media and John’s thoughts on moving forward.
    ● [01:02:19] Social media and John's podcast.
    ● [01:06:47] Anderson’s thoughts on freedom and governments.
    ● [01:10:15] Australian politicians' understanding of social media.
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    Jordan B. Peterson is a professor of psychology at the University of Toronto, a clinical psychologist, and the author of the multi-million copy bestseller 12 Rules for Life: An Antidote to Chaos, #1 for nonfiction in 2018 in the US, Canada, the UK, Australia, New Zealand, Sweden, the Netherlands, Brazil and Norway, and slated for translation into 50 languages.
    Dr. Peterson has appeared on many popular podcasts and shows, including the Joe Rogan Experience, The Rubin Report, H3H3, and many more. Dr. Peterson’s own podcast has focused mainly on his lecture series, covering a great deal of psychology and historical content. Jordan is expanding his current podcast from lectures to interviews with influential people around the world. We hope you enjoy this episode and more to come from Dr. Peterson in the future.
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  • Mohamedou Ould Slahi was detained at Guantanamo Bay without charge for 14 years. His best-selling memoir ‘Guantánamo Diary: The Fully Restored Text’ and movie ‘The Mauritanian’ are available now.
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    Dr. Jordan Peterson’s guest Mohamedou Ould Slahi shares his experience with more than a decade of torture and depression in Guantánamo Bay. Mohamedou starts with his childhood and guides us through his journey across Germany and Canada. The life-changing phone call and his hard-to-hear torture sessions are shared as he explains the change he experienced in his beliefs. Check out this episode to listen to how his 14 years of pain ended.
    Mohamedou Ould Slahi was detained for 14 years at Guantanamo Bay detention camp without charge. Though the Mauritanian citizen continued journaling while imprisoned, the U.S. government declassified it. In January 2015, the diary became an international bestseller and a 2021 drama film titled “The Mauritanian”.
    Read Mohamedou’s memoir: http://guantanamodiary.com/ 
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  • Dr. James Orr is a Ph.D. holding author of books The Mind of God and The Works of Nature. Dr. Nigel Biggar is an American priest, author, and moral and pastoral theology professor at Oxford.

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    In today’s episode, Dr. Jordan, Dr. James Orr, and Dr. Nigel Biggar discussed how religion and culture affect your identity. They also discuss nationalism, human rights throughout history, ideology, and more. Want to know how your identity gives meaning to your life? Then this episode is for you.

    Dr. James Orr is an assistant professor in the Faculty of Divinity at the University of Cambridge. He holds a PhD from the University of Cambridge and a BA in Classics from Balliol College, Oxford. He is the author of The Mind of God and the Works of Nature and teaches the philosophy of religion and ethics at Cambridge. He is a regular contributor to The Times Literary Supplement and The Critic Magazine. 

    Dr. Nigel Biggar, an Anglican priest, is a moral and pastoral theology professor at Oxford where he also directs the Mcdonald centre for theology, ethics, and public life. He is the author behind many books including: What’s Wrong with Rights? Between Kin and Cosmopolis, In Defense of War, and Behaving in Public: How to do Christian Ethics in Public.

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  • Rob Henderson is a US Air Force veteran, Ph.D. student in evolutionary and social psychology, and prolific writer.

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    Dr. Jordan Peterson and Rob Henderson exchange ideas about the impact of luxury beliefs on the different socioeconomic classes, polyamory, and the idea of the patriarchal institution. Dr. Jordan shares his experience with Henderson as they discuss psychopathy and its relationship with dating apps. Check out this episode to listen to what they have to say about pornography, defunding the police, the role of sex, the consequences of reproductive technology, and much more.
    Rob Henderson, a veteran of the US Air Force, is a Ph.D. student in evolutionary and social psychology at the University of Cambridge. He also got his bachelor’s degree in psychology from Yale. His writing appeared in worldwide newspapers like the New York Times, The Wall Street Journal, and Quillette. Currently, he is writing a memoir to be published in late 2022.
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  • Honorable Maxime Bernier is the leader of the People’s Party of Canada (PPC), former MP of Beauce (‘06-’19) and candidate for the Prime ministership of Canada.

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    In this episode Maxime shares his story, how and why he got into politics, the founding of the PPC and his vision for the future of Canada. There is also discussion on “common sense” policies, free markets, governmental overreach, the dismantling of classical conservative ideals, and the upcoming Canadian election (20th September 2021).

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  • Rex Murphy is a renowned Canadian commentator and author who deals primarily with Canadian political and social matters.

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    In this special episode Dr. Peterson and Rex Murphy discuss the Canadian political landscape, Justin Trudeau’s government, the federal debate, the upcoming election and why it was called in the first place.

    Rex is best known working on and for CBC Here and Now, CBC Radio 1’s Cross Country Checkup, writing for The Globe and Mail, and writing for The National Post.

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  • Dennis Prager, an American conservative radio show host, and Adam Carolla, a comedian and a podcaster, join forces to discuss their documentary “No Safe Spaces.”

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    Dennis Prager, is a nationally syndicated radio talk show host, heard on 300 stations across America and around the world. He is the co-founder and president of Prager University, the most prominent conservative video site globally, with over a billion views per year. 65% with people under 35 years, New York Times Bestselling author of 10 books. A biblical scholar with expertise in biblical Hebrew. 
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  • Dr. Robert P. Murphy is an Austrian School economist, Research Fellow at the Independent Institute, and Senior Fellow at the Mises Institute.

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    This episode of The Jordan Peterson Podcast covers topics such as value, free trade, private property, and minimum wage laws. They also dedicate time to discuss the specialization of individual tasks, interest rates, the Business Cycle, and more engrossing matters. 

    Being the author of multiple books, from Lessons for the Young Economist, to The Politically Incorrect Guide to Capitalism, Dr. Murphy does not hold back with his economic and political discussions. He continues to highlight his views in his other book, Choice: Cooperation, Enterprise, and Human Interaction, which is a modern distillation on the school of Austrian economics. 

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