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  • Karl Meltzer is an ultra running legend, living in Colorado. He is the winningest 100 mile racer in history, recently securing his 50th victory. He's also been a leader and pioneer in so many ways as the sport has matured in the last two decades. This is his first appearance on the podcast.

    Topics covered:

    The Value of simplicity Karl’s golf prowess The founding story of HOKA and Karl’s history with the brand Building a career in the sport and some of the great stories from the old days The 2012 Run Rabbit Run 100 Kyle Skaggs 2008 Hardrock His friendship with Jeff Browning His 50th 100-mile victory a few weeks ago So much more!

    GORGE WATERFALLS 100K LIVESTREAM

    GORGE WATERFALLS 50K LIVESTREAM

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    Freetrail Links: Website | Freetrail Pro | Patreon | Instagram | YouTube | Freetrail Experts

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    ________________________ Other Freetrail podcast episodes you might enjoy: Kilian Jornet | The New NNormal
    Tim Tollefson | The Infinite Game
    Clare Gallagher | Black Canyon 100k Champion
    Jim Walmsley | Engagement, Moving to Europe, Western States, and UTMB
  • Molly Seidel is a professional runner for PUMA living in Flagstaff, AZ. She famously qualified for Team USA in her first marathon and then earned a Bronze Medal in the Tokyo Olympics. Last week, Molly made news when Canadian Running reported that she was on the start list for the Canyons by UTMB 50k coming up later in April. Her first trail ultramarathon gave us the perfect excuse to finally do a podcast.

    Topics discussed:

    Molly's early experiences with running Relationship with her sister Izzy and the creation of Sad Girl Track Club The post-Olympic come down Molly's relationship with fame Her reverse learning curve in the marathon Coach Jon Green Her experiences at Speedgoat 28k and UTMB The inspiration to do Canyons and goals for the race Training for the trails Her relationship with PUMA Who she admires

    Sponsors:

    Join our Nutrition Club with The Feed and get $80 to spend on nutrition Use code freetrail10 for 10% off Speedland Footwear Grab a trail running pack from Osprey Use code FT15 for 15% off Gnarly Nutrition Roark Apparel -- Listen to the ad or DM us for the code

    Freetrail Links: Website | Freetrail Pro | Patreon | Instagram | YouTube | Freetrail Experts

    Dylan Links: Instagram | Twitter | LinkedIn | Strava

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    Other Freetrail podcast episodes you might enjoy: Kilian Jornet | The New NNormal
    Tim Tollefson | The Infinite Game
    Clare Gallagher | Black Canyon 100k Champion
    Jim Walmsley | Engagement, Moving to Europe, Western States, and UTMB
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  • Jasmin Paris is a veterinarian, mom, and ultrarunner from Edinburgh, Scotland. Last week she became the 20th person and first woman ever to finish the Barkley Marathons, a legendary endurance challenge in Frozenhead State Park in Wartburg, Tennessee. Finishing in a time of 59:58:21, Jasmin barely completed the course under the 60hrs cutoff, inspiring thousands of people around the world. We go deep on the Barkley performance in this podcast.

    Topics discussed: Introduction and Personal Background Career as a Veterinarian and Academic Background Love for Learning and Academic Approach to Athletics Intuition and Confidence in Finishing the Barkley Marathons The Importance of Uncertainty in the Barkley Marathons Dealing with Uncertainty and Challenges Intellectual and Mathematical Approach to the Barkley Marathons The Slim Margin of Finishing the Barkley Marathons The Difficulty of the Barkley Marathons Jared Campbell's Act of Sportsmanship Encounters with Fellow Finishers The Final Moments of the Race Reflections on the Achievement Dealing with Attention and Inspiring Others Memorable Moments with Other Finishers Acknowledging Damien and Family Support Admiration for Those Who Keep Trying

    Sponsors:

    Join our Nutrition Club with The Feed and get $80 to spend on nutrition Use code freetrail10 for 10% off Speedland Footwear Grab a trail running pack from Osprey Use code FT15 for 15% off Gnarly Nutrition Roark Apparel -- Listen to the ad or DM us for the code

    Freetrail Links: Website | Freetrail Pro | Patreon | Instagram | YouTube | Freetrail Experts

    Dylan Links: Instagram | Twitter | LinkedIn | Strava

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    Other Freetrail podcast episodes you might enjoy:

    Kilian Jornet | The New NNormal
    Tim Tollefson | The Infinite Game
    Clare Gallagher | Black Canyon 100k Champion
    Jim Walmsley | Engagement, Moving to Europe, Western States, and UTMB
  • Devon Yanko is a professional runner for lululemon living in Salida, CO. She has had a long and very successful career inside and outside of sport. In addition to being a pro athlete, Devon has owned and operated several businesses, mostly in the world of culinary arts. Two weeks ago, Devon and her teammates finished a 6-day run of self-transcendence as part of lululemon's FURTHER project. In that time, Devon ran a total of 313 miles and participated in one of the most significant research studies ever conducted in women's sports.

    Devon and Nathan's Homesteading Instagram

    Topics discussed:

    The origin of Fast Foodie and the pursuit of culinary arts Small business ownership Selling her business and moving to CO The history of trail and ultrarunning in Marin County The value of not specializing as an athlete Goals for FURTHER and the life changing experience of participating Goals for the rest of the season A lot more!

    Sponsors:

    Join our Nutrition Club with The Feed and get $80 to spend on nutrition Use code freetrail10 for 10% off Speedland Footwear Grab a trail running pack from Osprey Use code FT15 for 15% off Gnarly Nutrition Roark Apparel -- Listen to the ad or DM us for the code

    Freetrail Links: Website | Freetrail Pro | Patreon | Instagram | YouTube | Freetrail Experts

    Dylan Links: Instagram | Twitter | LinkedIn | Strava

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    Other Freetrail podcast episodes you might enjoy:

    Kilian Jornet | The New NNormal
    Tim Tollefson | The Infinite Game
    Clare Gallagher | Black Canyon 100k Champion
    Jim Walmsley | Engagement, Moving to Europe, Western States, and UTMB
  • This is episode #1 of Second Nature. A new media project from Dylan Bowman and Aaron Lutze, Second Nature focuses on the business of outdoor -- providing analysis and commentary on what's evolving in the outdoor, action, and endurance sport market. In the first episode tackle the following products:

    Business planning process for FURTHER The challenge of being authentic in a new category and with a new consumer Developing footwear as a world-class apparel brand The danger of losing focus on lululemon's core markets of yoga and athleisure The vision, marketing, and distribution of FURTHER What lululemon could have done better History of Kevin Plank and Under Armour and his return as CEO Brand, Product, Content: Substack & ROA Hiking

    Next week we'll be back to talk a bit more about the short and long-term vision for Second Nature, the intersection of fashion and outdoor, and Rich Roll's new podcast network. In the meantime, signup for our newsletter.

  • Camille Herron is a world champion and world record holding ultrarunner. She is perhaps the most decorated athlete in the history of timed ultra events. Last week, Camille completed the lululemon FURTHER event in Southern California. A team of ten women set off to test their limits, running "further" than ever before. In the process, Camille broke the following world records:

    300 miles 400 miles 500 miles 500k 600k 700k 800k 900k 3-Day WR 4-Day WR 5-Day WR 6-Day WR

    We talk all about the vision, preparation, and execution of this pioneering ultra event.

    The History of Six Day Racing

    Sponsors:

    Join our Nutrition Club with The Feed and get $80 to spend on nutrition Use code freetrail10 for 10% off Speedland Footwear Grab a trail running pack from Osprey Use code FT15 for 15% off Gnarly Nutrition Roark Apparel -- Listen to the ad or DM us for the code

    Freetrail Links: Website | Freetrail Pro | Patreon | Instagram | YouTube | Freetrail Experts

    Dylan Links: Instagram | Twitter | LinkedIn | Strava

    ________________________

    Other Freetrail podcast episodes you might enjoy:

    Kilian Jornet | The New NNormal
    Tim Tollefson | The Infinite Game
    Clare Gallagher | Black Canyon 100k Champion
    Jim Walmsley | Engagement, Moving to Europe, Western States, and UTMB
  • Tabor Hemming is a professional trail runner for Adidas TERREX living in Kremmling, CO. She has been one of the stellar crop of young American sub-ultra distance specialists racing internationally in the last couple years. We get to know her in this first appearance on the show.

    Topics discussed:

    Tabor's personal and athletic background Family history and cattle ranching Joining Adidas TERREX Racing collegiately at CU Nordic skiing history Career development and the importance of self-investment The start to the 2024 season The Big Alta The Hemmings YouTube channel Goals for the future A lot more!

    Sponsors:

    Grab a trail running pack from Osprey Use code freetrail10 for 10% off Speedland Footwear Use code FT15 for 15% off Gnarly Nutrition Roark Apparel -- Listen to the ad or DM us for the code

    Freetrail Links: Website | Freetrail Pro | Patreon | Instagram | YouTube | Freetrail Experts

    Dylan Links: Instagram | Twitter | LinkedIn | Strava

    ________________________

    Other Freetrail podcast episodes you might enjoy:

    Kilian Jornet | The New NNormal
    Tim Tollefson | The Infinite Game
    Clare Gallagher | Black Canyon 100k Champion
    Jim Walmsley | Engagement, Moving to Europe, Western States, and UTMB
  • Andy Pearson is an ultrarunner and VP of Creative at Liquid Death, living in Southern California. He's also the co-host of a trail running podcast called Between Two Pines, distributed by UltraSignup. He's made his career in advertising and creative, winning industry awards along the way. He's also a longtime ultrarunner who has competed in races like Western States, Big's Backyard Ultra, Barkley, and Cocodona 250. Topics discuss:

    Andy's personal and professional background The difference between entertainment and marketing "The art of stupidity" The value of thinking irrationally Creating viral products Liquid Death's famous Super Bowl ad Maintaining a disruptive posture as Liquid Death scales Andy's running career The creative genius of Lazarus Lake Between Two Pines A lot more!

    Andy's personal website

    Liquid Death's Super Bowl ad

    Sponsors:

    Grab a trail running pack from Osprey Use code freetrail10 for 10% off Speedland Footwear Use code FT15 for 15% off Gnarly Nutrition Roark Apparel -- Listen to the ad or DM us for the code

    Freetrail Links: Website | Freetrail Pro | Patreon | Instagram | YouTube | Freetrail Experts

    Dylan Links: Instagram | Twitter | LinkedIn | Strava

    ________________________

    Other Freetrail podcast episodes you might enjoy:

    Kilian Jornet | The New NNormal
    Tim Tollefson | The Infinite Game
    Clare Gallagher | Black Canyon 100k Champion
    Jim Walmsley | Engagement, Moving to Europe, Western States, and UTMB
  • Shannon O'Grady is the CEO of Gnarly Nutrition, our longest tenured partner. She is also a PhD Sports Nutritionist with incredible knowledge about fueling for performance and recovery. This is her second appearance on the show -- the first being one of our most popular episodes ever. We use this as another opportunity to blast through a laundry list of nutrition topics to help you be more informed about your nutrition choices and strategies.

    Topics discussed:

    Shannon's new role as CEO The Gnarstool Podcast Micronutrients vs macronutrients Metabolism Carbohydrate periodization Lifestyle hydration Calories vs. grams of carbohydrates Supplementing with protein during ultra races Alcohol's impact on performance Salt intake outside of training Acidic vs alkaline diets A lot more!

    SHANNON'S FIRST APPEARANCE ON THE PODCAST

    Sponsors:

    Grab a trail running pack from Osprey Use code freetrail10 for 10% off Speedland Footwear Use code FT15 for 15% off Gnarly Nutrition Roark Apparel -- Listen to the ad or DM us for the code

    Freetrail Links: Website | Freetrail Pro | Patreon | Instagram | YouTube | Freetrail Experts

    Dylan Links: Instagram | Twitter | LinkedIn | Strava

    ________________________

    Other Freetrail podcast episodes you might enjoy:

    Kilian Jornet | The New NNormal
    Tim Tollefson | The Infinite Game
    Clare Gallagher | Black Canyon 100k Champion
    Jim Walmsley | Engagement, Moving to Europe, Western States, and UTMB
  • Trailgating kicks off Mountain Outpost's coverage of the inaugural running of The Big Alta in Marinwood, CA. This is a pre-race show co-hosted by Dylan Bowman and Corrine Malcolm to preview the action ahead of the races. They'll talk about the course, the condition, and the fields assembling for both the 50k and the 28k.

    The Big Alta 50k Fantasy: https://fantasy.freetrail.com/events/...

    The Big Alta 28k Fantasy: https://fantasy.freetrail.com/events/...

    See below for links and discount codes from our brand partners:

    Goldwin: Use code BA15 for 15% off your purchase of this great Japanese outdoor apparel - https://www.goldwin-global.com/us/gui...

    Speedland: Use code Freetrail10 for 10% off your purchase of this great trail footwear - https://www.runspeedland.com/

    Ketone IQ: Visit https://hvmn.com/freetrail30 for 30% off your subscription of Ketone IQ

    Red Bull: Join Dylan's team for the Wings For Life World Run taking place May 5th - https://www.wingsforlifeworldrun.com/...

  • Zoë Rom is the Editor in Chief of Trail Runner Magazine and Managing Editor of Women's Running. She is also a host of The Outside Show. She is one of the most respected journalists in the sport, writing two fantastic pieces recently that we center the episode around. The articles are The Rise of Indie Running Brands and How Fan Service is Changing Running Media.

    Topics discussed:

    Nichification of sports Brands as identity signalers Social media's role in empowering new brands The DTC business model The importance of differentiation Fan service in media The state of journalism Trade offs made as an editor A lot more

    Read Peter Abraham's blog on The Nichification of Sports. Also his post from the Olympic Trials Marathon.

    Sponsors:

    Grab a trail running pack from Osprey Use code freetrail10 for 10% off Speedland Footwear Use code freetrail15 for 15% off Gnarly Nutrition Roark Apparel -- Listen to the ad or DM us for the code

    Freetrail Links: Website | Freetrail Pro | Patreon | Instagram | YouTube | Freetrail Experts

    Dylan Links: Instagram | Twitter | LinkedIn | Strava

    ________________________

    Other Freetrail podcast episodes you might enjoy:

    Kilian Jornet | The New NNormal
    Tim Tollefson | The Infinite Game
    Clare Gallagher | Black Canyon 100k Champion
    Jim Walmsley | Engagement, Moving to Europe, Western States, and UTMB
  • Justin Grunewald is a professional runner and physician, living in Boulder, CO. At the end of January, Justin posted about his experience giving up alcohol for a month and how it impacted his running and personal health. His post resonated with me and created a great opportunity to finally have Justin on the podcast. Topics covered:

    Dry January Justin's observation of alcoholism as a physician How giving up alcohol impacted his training, relationships, and mood The importance of moderation The sponsorship landscape in trail running Agents in pro trail running Justin's training for Tarawera and goals for the season A lot more!

    Sponsors:

    Grab a trail running pack from Osprey Use code freetrail10 for 10% off Speedland Footwear Use code freetrail15 for 15% off Gnarly Nutrition Roark Apparel -- Listen to the ad or DM us for the code

    Freetrail Links: Website | Freetrail Pro | Patreon | Instagram | YouTube | Freetrail Experts

    Dylan Links: Instagram | Twitter | LinkedIn | Strava

    ________________________

    Other Freetrail podcast episodes you might enjoy:

    Kilian Jornet | The New NNormal

    Tim Tollefson | The Infinite Game
    Clare Gallagher | Black Canyon 100k Champion
    Jim Walmsley | Engagement, Moving to Europe, Western States, and UTMB
  • This is Freetrail's 2024 Black Canyon 100k recap show. Our hosts today are Dylan Bowman, and The Boulder Boys - Matt Daniels, Seth Ruhling, and Adam Merry.

    Topics: -

    Delayed start Men's and women's top-10 Aid Station Fireball's top-5 stats Fantasy recap Boulder Boys next races Super Bowl predictions A lot more!

    Our coverage is made possible by HOKA. Check out their wide range of trail running products at: https://www.hoka.com/en/us/

    Play fantasy trail running: https://fantasy.freetrail.com/events/5dbb8e05-237b-440d-b02a-5c7852546e00

    Subscribe to Mountain Outpost: https://www.youtube.com/@UCkBVF0sQGsJa-272eFUpTsw

    Freetrail Links: Website | Freetrail Pro | Patreon | Instagram | YouTube | Freetrail Experts Dylan Links: Instagram | Twitter | LinkedIn | Strava
  • This is Freetrail's 2024 Black Canyon 100k prediction show. Six Golden Ticket to the Western States 100 are on the line in one of the most competitive races to ever take place on American soil. Our hosts today are Dylan Bowman, Corrine Malcolm, and 2019 Black Canyon champion, Matt Daniels.

    Topics: -

    Level of the modern pro athletes Potential race dynamics Weather/course update Competitive density measurements Men's and women's predictions Anticipated breakthrough performers A lot more!

    Our coverage is made possible by HOKA. Check out their wide range of trail running products at: https://www.hoka.com/en/us/

    Play fantasy trail running: https://fantasy.freetrail.com/events/5dbb8e05-237b-440d-b02a-5c7852546e00

    Subscribe to Mountain Outpost: https://www.youtube.com/@UCkBVF0sQGsJa-272eFUpTsw

    Freetrail Links: Website | Freetrail Pro | Patreon | Instagram | YouTube | Freetrail Experts Dylan Links: Instagram | Twitter | LinkedIn | Strava
  • This is Freetrail's 2024 Black Canyon 100k preview show. Six Golden Ticket to the Western States 100 are on the line in one of the most competitive races to ever take place on American soil. Our hosts today are Dylan Bowman, Corrine Malcolm, and 2019 Black Canyon champion, Matt Daniels.

    Topics:

    Course preview and conditions Weather Elite men's preview Elite women's preview

    Our coverage is made possible by HOKA. Check out their wide range of trail running products at: https://www.hoka.com/en/us/

    Play fantasy trail running: https://fantasy.freetrail.com/events/...

    Subscribe to Mountain Outpost: https://www.youtube.com/@UCkBVF0sQGsJ...

    Freetrail Links: Website | Freetrail Pro | Patreon | Instagram | YouTube | Freetrail Experts Dylan Links: Instagram | Twitter | LinkedIn | Strava
  • Jon Rea is a professional trail runner for HOKA, living in Boulder, CO. In 2023 he finished 4th at CCC and broke the CR at Javelina Jundred. Next weekend, Jon lines up as one of the favorites at the Black Canyon 100k. This podcast is a companion conversation for a training video Freetrail released, documenting one of the final key workouts in Jon's build to Black Canyon. In the podcast we discuss the following topics:

    Jon's background and family "From runner to racer" philosophy Team sports as the foundation for his running career This important moment in Jon's career His training for Black Canyon Flux workouts His unorthodox taper strategy The value of hardwork His PhD work and career at RMI Not needing a Golden Ticket "Big Cat Mode" Who Jon admires

    Sponsors:

    Grab a trail running pack from Osprey Use code freetrail10 for 10% off Speedland Footwear Use code freetrail15 for 15% off Gnarly Nutrition Roark Apparel -- Listen to the ad or DM us for the code

    Freetrail Links: Website | Freetrail Pro | Patreon | Instagram | YouTube | Freetrail Experts

    Dylan Links: Instagram | Twitter | LinkedIn | Strava

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    Other Freetrail podcast episodes you might enjoy:

    Kilian Jornet | The New NNormal
    Tim Tollefson | The Infinite Game
    Clare Gallagher | Black Canyon 100k Champion
    Jim Walmsley | Engagement, Moving to Europe, Western States, and UTMB
  • Mario Fraioli is the author of The Morning Shakeout newsletter and host of The Morning Shakeout podcast, he is also a coach to many athletes across all formats of running. He’s one of the most respected people in the sport and more importantly he’s a high character, high integrity person, and a good friend.

    As we've done each of the last three years, this episode is an annual check in where Mario and I compare notes on life, running, and career -- where we are, what we're inspired about, and what we're struggling with. Zach Miller's Article on iRF

    Sponsors:

    Grab a trail running pack from OspreyUse code freetrail10 for 10% off Speedland FootwearUse code freetrail15 for 15% off Gnarly Nutrition Roark Apparel -- Listen to the ad or DM us for the code Freetrail Links: Website | Freetrail Pro | Patreon | Instagram | YouTube | Freetrail Experts

    Dylan Links: Instagram | Twitter | LinkedIn | Strava

    ________________________

    Other Freetrail podcast episodes you might enjoy:

    Kilian Jornet | The New NNormal
    Tim Tollefson | The Infinite Game
    Clare Gallagher | Black Canyon 100k Champion
    Jim Walmsley | Engagement, Moving to Europe, Western States, and UTMB
  • Andrew Bumbalough is a former professional track and road racer for the Bowerman Track Club who now works as a product line manager at Nike. Boasting a 2:10 marathon PR, Bumbi will be making his ultra debut, chasing a Golden Ticket, at Aravaipa's Black Canyon 100k where I will serve as his crew chief. He is a close friend returning for his second appearance on the pod. Topics discussed:

    Andrew's arrival in the national spotlight in High School The incubator Retirement and career transition Working at Nike after being sponsored by the brand Mix of emotions about his pro career Trail inspiration at Canyons 100k His training and psychology ahead of Black Canyon Being self-coached for the first time People he admires A lot more

    SIGNUP FOR THE FREETRAIL NEWSLETTER

    Sponsors:

    Grab a trail running pack from Osprey Use code freetrail10 for 10% off Speedland Footwear Use code freetrail15 for 15% off Gnarly Nutrition Get 30% off your first subscription of Ketone IQ at HVMN.com/FREETRAIL30

    Freetrail Links: Website | Freetrail Pro | Patreon | Instagram | YouTube | Freetrail Experts

    Dylan Links: Instagram | Twitter | LinkedIn | Strava

    ________________________

    Other Freetrail podcast episodes you might enjoy:

    Kilian Jornet | The New NNormal
    Tim Tollefson | The Infinite Game
    Clare Gallagher | Black Canyon 100k Champion
    Jim Walmsley | Engagement, Moving to Europe, Western States, and UTMB
  • Anna Frost is a trail running icon. The native New Zealander has had one of the most decorated careers of any athlete in the last two decades. She has since moved on from elite level racing but is still involved in the sport through coaching, guiding, and with her foundation Sisu Girls.

    Topics covered:

    Anna's current relationship with running Kiwi roots and trail running origin story The early days of the Salomon international Team Hardock and her community in Silverton Career management Aging as an elite athlete Current projects State of the sport A lot more!

    CHECK OUT "HOME" -- SHORT FILM ABOUT FROSTY

    Sponsors:

    Grab a trail running pack from Osprey Use code freetrail10 for 10% off Speedland Footwear Use code freetrail15 for 15% off Gnarly Nutrition Get 30% off your first subscription of Ketone IQ at HVMN.com/FREETRAIL30

    Freetrail Links: Website | Freetrail Pro | Patreon | Instagram | YouTube | Freetrail Experts

    Dylan Links: Instagram | Twitter | LinkedIn | Strava

    ________________________

    Other Freetrail podcast episodes you might enjoy:

    Kilian Jornet | The New NNormal
    Tim Tollefson | The Infinite Game
    Clare Gallagher | Black Canyon 100k Champion
    Jim Walmsley | Engagement, Moving to Europe, Western States, and UTMB
  • For the first time in a few years, we're doing an AMA episode! After sourcing questions on Instagram, Harmony steps in to act as the host to pose fun questions from the community. Topics we cover.

    Previous career path Podcast prep strategies 2024 Freetrail priorities Having faith when taking a leap Mt. Rushmore of trail running Early peers and mentors Inspiring sporting performances from 2023 Challenges that have led to personal growth Favorite books and music Harmony's support and our family dynamic Frustrating and rewarding parts of Freetrail Goals for 2024 People I admire

    Things Mentioned:

    Ben Dhiman's Substack Rick Rubin's pod with Rory sutherland Rick Rubin's book Rory Sutherland's book Barbarian Days Roger Federer's Retirement Speech

    GIFT A FREETRAIL PRO MEMBERSHIP

    Sponsors:

    Grab a trail running pack from Osprey Use code freetrail10 for 10% off Speedland Footwear Use code freetrail15 for 15% off Gnarly Nutrition Get 30% off your first subscription of Ketone IQ at HVMN.com/FREETRAIL30

    Freetrail Links: Website | Freetrail Pro | Patreon | Instagram | YouTube | Freetrail Experts

    Dylan Links: Instagram | Twitter | LinkedIn | Strava

    ________________________ Other Freetrail podcast episodes you might enjoy: Kilian Jornet | The New NNormal
    Tim Tollefson | The Infinite Game
    Clare Gallagher | Black Canyon 100k Champion
    Jim Walmsley | Engagement, Moving to Europe, Western States, and UTMB