Episodes
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“Candidate expectations have certainly accelerated. There's a difference today versus 10 years ago in terms of what people's expectations are and how fast other processes are going. And so moving quickly is an advantage in a hiring process—and figuring out how to move quickly without sacrificing on the process is a little bit of an art.”
In this episode, our very own Gray McKenzie discusses the process of hiring the right people for an agency. He shares his recent experience of hiring an Integrator and COO for ZenPilot, and all the small and big decisions that shaped the recruitment process. Gray explains the hiring framework we followed, the stages of the hiring process, the approach towards sourcing and screening candidates, and much more.
A great listen for anyone looking to expand their team—it will help you craft a fast process that surfaces the best talent and captures it before it goes off the market.
Episode Insights:
💡 Hiring the right people is crucial for agency growth and success.
💡 “Who: the A Method for Hiring” is a framework that can help agencies find and hire the best candidates.
💡 It’s important to promote your job postings selectively to have a higher quality pipeline.
💡 Clear communication and transparency about the role and expectations are key in attracting the right candidates. Have a defined hiring process to provide clarity and confidence to both candidates and the hiring team.
💡 Move quickly in the hiring process to meet candidate expectations and avoid losing top talent.
💡 Reference checks are crucial to gather additional insights and validate a candidate's performance.
💡 Group interviews can provide different perspectives and help candidates and team members build rapport.
💡 Consider a co-working session as part of your hiring process to assess candidates in action.
💡 Make connections with unsuccessful candidates to maintain positive relationships and potential future opportunities.
Resourced Mentioned:
🌐 ZenPilot
🌐 Gray’s LinkedIn
📚 "Who: The A Method for Hiring" by Geoff Smart and Randy Street
📚 "Topgrading" by Bradford D. Smart
⚙️ EOS (Entrepreneurial Operating System)
🤝 EOS Self-Implementers Group
⚒️ Loom
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"I think the hardest thing that all HubSpot agencies are trying to solve for is… 500 product updates this year. How do you keep it all straight? How do you share that knowledge? How much knowledge do you have to know as a team, to what level? One thing that I practice and preach is: not everybody's going to know everything, but that collectively as a team and as an agency, we've got people in certain areas that are experts in those areas that we can rely on."
Adam Sharrow is the founder of Process Pro Consulting, a HubSpot Diamond Partner agency specializing in technical implementation, optimization, and support for businesses using HubSpot.
Drawing from his experience in building and scaling a successful HubSpot agency, Adam shares about navigating the challenges of growth, managing a team of experts, and staying ahead of the curve even as HubSpot releases 500+ product updates each year.
This episode of Agency Journey will be perfect for agency owners looking to specialize in a specific niche, such as HubSpot consulting, and build a sustainable, scalable business model.
You'll learn about the importance of conducting thorough client assessments, balancing quick wins with long-term strategic planning, and fostering a culture of knowledge sharing and expertise within your growing team.
Episode Insights:
💡 Challenges and strategies for running a HubSpot-focused agency—from a HubSpot Diamond Partner
💡 The trajectory of HubSpot: where it’s going in the future, and how it relates to how Salesforce grew
💡 The importance of a paid discovery/assessment—and seeing it through even when clients want to jump to solving specific issues
💡 The capacity planning challenges created by month-to-month retainers (and how to mitigate them)
💡 Staying on top of 500+ HubSpot product updates per year and managing collective internal expertise as you scale
💡 Addressing the challenges of scaling from 5 to 10 to 15 people—and how it impacts which metrics you track
💡 Specializing in your wheelhouse of expertise vs trying to solve everything + the benefits of partnering with other agencies for complementary needs
💡 How to build sales pipeline as a HubSpot agency
Resourced Mentioned:
📚 Process Pro Consulting website
📚 Adam Sharrow on LinkedIn
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“In today's day and age people are scared to be measured. But your athletes, they love it because that's how they grew up. How do you know who are the best players on the team? You look at the box score, you look at the stat sheet. So I like bringing a sports mentality to everything I do.”
Casey Cavell is a serial entrepreneur. He’s built a $40,000,000 portfolio from a $9,000 investment by founding, buying, or investing in dozens of small businesses over the last two decades.
He also has personal experience with the kind of burnout that results from the business growing and relying too heavily on one person.
Which is why he now focuses on helping companies simplify, focus, and get the business owner out of the day-to-day.
This episode of Agency Journey will be perfect if you’re an entrepreneur thinking about investing in and increasing the value of other businesses; bringing in A-players; and mindfully delegating tasks until you’re left working on what you do best and love most.
Episode Insights:
💡 How Casey found underperforming businesses to acquire, and how he turned them into more systematic, process-driven organizations
💡 Buying businesses outright vs coming in as an investor
💡 Structuring equity/profit-sharing deals with clients—including earning trust with a 90-day initial engagement
💡 How to prevent burnout by delegating tasks, hiring A-players, and removing reliance on the owner
💡 The specific tasks entrepreneurs should delegate first
💡 Defining what you want your business to do for your life
Resourced Mentioned:
📚 Casey’s consulting business
📚 Casey’s LinkedIn
📚 The Dugout CEO podcast
📚 The Friday Drive newsletter
📚 Books: Good to Great; Rich Dad Poor Dad; The E-Myth
👉 Don’t forget to follow and rate us on your preferred podcast platforms. We’re also on YouTube: @ZenPilot
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“I had bought into this idea that you had to sacrifice everything you had to kill yourself for growth. And it cost me dearly. I made some really poor decisions.”
Carlos Hidalgo is co-founder & CEO of Digital Exhaust, a Utah-based data-driven, AI-enabled agency with a belief that "growth is a state of being, not just a goal to be achieved".
But he's also a man with a dramatic story of putting his business ahead of his other life priorities—and learning some very hard lessons from that.
This episode of Agency Journey will be a perfect reality check for agency owners, and an opportunity to re-assess the importance you should put on your agency relative to the current stage of your life journey.
It will be especially relevant if you're balancing being a business owner with being a spouse, a parent, and a person driven by faith.
Episode Insights:
💡 The pivotal moments that reshaped Carlos's perspective on work-life balance and led him to reassess his priorities—including stepping down from one of his previous agencies.
💡 Practical wisdom on setting non-negotiable boundaries, prioritizing well-being, and staying true to your business ethos.
💡 Specific practices and habits Carlos introduced with his wife and himself to build a balanced and fulfilling life as an agency owner.
💡 The virtues of being selective about what you're willing to invest yourself in, and how much.
Resourced Mentioned:
📚 Digital Exhaust
📚 The UnAmerican Dream by Carlos Hidalgo (book)
📚 Carlos' LinkedIn
🛠️ AI tools: Otter, ChatGPT, Jasper
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“I have long seen myself as: I’m a very good marketer. I'm a very good communicator. I'm a good content creator. That's my lane. I know how to drive in that lane very, very well. And this has been a challenge for me to say: how do I become the best president, owner of a services business? Versus the best marketer anybody knows.”
Ali Schwanke is founder and CEO of Simple Strat—a Diamond HubSpot Solutions Partner and premium B2B content marketing agency.
You may know them from the HubSpot Hacks YouTube channel, the #1 unofficial source of HubSpot tutorials with over 20k subscribers to the channel.
This episode will be a perfect listen for agency operators looking to find their perfect niche; discover content topics and formats that work on YouTube; and become a better leader by leveraging their unique leadership style.
It’s also full of inspiration for owners considering making an exit from their agency.
Episode Insights:
💡 Simple Strat’s journey towards becoming experts in the HubSpot ecosystem through content creation and strategic focus
💡 How Ali and her team approach content production and finding ideas for their HubSpot Hacks channel on YouTube (leveraging TubeBuddy, AirTable, and HubSpot rep feedback)
💡 Moving from solving problems on her own to empowering team members to learn and grow
💡 Ali’s advice on leadership styles, the shift in mindset from a marketer to an agency owner, and the importance of systems and processes in scaling an agency
💡 Ali’s thoughts on how to prepare for a future exit from an agency, including the importance of mindset but also legal compliance, data preparation, and more
Resourced Mentioned:
📚 Simple Strat
📚 Ali Schwanke’s LinkedIn
📚 HubSpot Hacks YouTube channel
📚 TubeBuddy (for YouTube keyword research)
📚 "Work Less, Earn More" by Karl Sakas (book)
📚 "Built to Sell" by John Warrillow (book)
📚 "How to Win Client Business When You Don't Know What You're Doing" by Doug Fletcher (book)
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“If you don't like managing people, one of the things to consider is: do you want to run an agency? The management portion will never go away. But it also doesn't have to be so hard.”
Karl Sakas, agency advisor and founder of Sakas & Company, has served as “agency therapist” for over 600 clients in 36 countries. He was also our recent guest on Agency Journey. His fourth time on the show!
You can guess why we had Karl on so many times—his insights are always on point.
If you want to work less and earn more, and be a better leader for your agency through cultivating personal relationships and intentional leadership training, this episode will be well worth a listen.
Episode Insights:
💡 The four stages of day-to-day involvement agency owners progress through on the way to becoming optional
💡 Managing expectations as you plan your agency succession
💡 Karl’s process and challenges narrating the audio version of his book, “Work Less, Earn More”
💡 The importance of warmth vs. competence as a manager
💡 Practical tips for building personal relationships with team members and network contacts
💡 Karl’s personal investment in leadership development, including his own coaching and participation in intensive leadership programs
💡 The importance of 360 evaluation as a leader
💡 The leadership development programs Karl recommends
Resourced Mentioned:
📚 Sakas & Company: https://sakasandcompany.com/
📚 Karl’s book, “Work Less, Earn More” (plus companion workbook): https://sakasandcompany.com/lp/work-less-earn-more-book/
📚 The Manager Tools training program Karl recommends: https://manager-tools.com/
📚 Karl’s Agency Leadership Intensive (sign-ups open until end of February): https://sakasandcompany.com/agency-leadership-development-program/
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“We all consider ourselves humble experts. So we all know that we're good at what we do, but ego does not get in the way around our workplace.”
Arianne Foulks, CEO and founder of Aeolidia, a one-stop shop agency for creative ecommerce brands with 20+ years of market presence, was our recent guest on Agency Journey.
If you want to build an efficient, adaptable agency that builds strong relationships with clients and employees—this episode will be perfect for you.
Episode Insights:
💡 Transitioning from a solo operation to managing a 20-person creative team
💡 The philosophy of nurturing a 'humble expert' team culture
💡 Leveraging tools like ClickUp for effective project management
💡 Arianne’s decision-making process regarding partnership with other agencies
💡 The evolution of Aeolidia's pricing and service offerings during the pandemic
Resources Mentioned:
📚 Aeolidia: https://aeolidia.com/
📚 "Profit First" and "Clockwork" by Mike Michalowicz for business management
📚 "4000 Weeks" by Oliver Burkeman for a perspective on productivity and time management
📚 ClickUp for project management and tracking
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[This is a special feature of Gray's recent appearance on Perpetual Traffic—reposted on the Agency Journey feed so you don't miss this informative discussion!]
Kasim chats with Gray MacKenzie, the co-founder of ZenPilot, a company that helps agencies master project management. Gray reveals why project management is more than just software, and how to create effective processes and habits. He also shares how to set up your scorecard, track your client health, and deliver an awesome experience for your team and clients. Plus, he gives you the three secrets to project management success and how to avoid the most common mistakes.
Chapters:
00:00:00 - Introduction and Welcome00:01:59 - How to Calculate the ROI of Project Management00:07:20 - How Zenpilot Evolved Over 10 Years00:19:08 - How to Measure and Improve Client Health00:24:42 - The Three Keys to Making Project Management Work Well00:26:19 - How to Use ClickUp and Teamwork for Project Management00:28:16 - How to Define Your Scorecard and Track Your Progress00:30:25 - How AI Can Enhance Project Management00:33:18 - How to Design Your Data Architecture for AI00:37:17 - How AI Can Automate Task Creation and Summary00:39:30 - How Gamification Can Motivate and Engage Your Team00:40:38 - How AI Can Optimize Capacity Management00:46:15 - How to Create Structure and Clarity for Your Team00:48:25 - How to Use Time Tracking for Capacity ManagementLINKS AND RESOURCES:
ZenPilotGray MacKenzie on LinkedInClickUpEOS® V/TO™ Template - V/TO™ TemplateEOS - Entrepreneurial Operating SystemTraffic & Conversion SummitTier 11 JobsPerpetual Traffic on YouTubeTiereleven.comSolutions 8 Perpetual Traffic SurveyPerpetual Traffic WebsiteFollow Perpetual Traffic on TwitterConnect with Kasim on Twitter and Connect with Ralph on LinkedIn
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"Small groups of highly skilled, highly motivated, well communicating people can just achieve more than you can at a large organization."
Jesse Resnick, co-founder of Ei Digital, a full-service digital agency, was our recent guest on Agency Journey.
This episode is a must-listen for agency owners and managers looking to build a high-performing team culture.
Episode Insights:
💡 Jesse's journey from working in larger agencies to establishing EI Digital.
💡 The journey of EI Digital from a modest start to a full-service agency
💡 How EI Digital's pod-based team structure enhances efficiency and client service
💡 Jesse's perspective on the intersection of brand and performance marketing in the digital age
💡 Strategies for nurturing and developing talent within a digital agency
💡 Utilizing strategic vision to maintain a high-quality user experience while scaling
💡 The importance of EBITDA and other financial metrics in agency decision-making
Resources Mentioned:
📚 Ei Digital: https://eidigital.com/
📚 Jesse’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jesseresnick/
📚 Principles by Ray Dalio: Jesse's recommended reading for agency principles
📚 Accrual Accounting: Understanding its importance in agency operations
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Is your agency prepared for the cookieless future that threatens to “tank” advertising performance?
Paris Childress, CEO of SaaS-focused performance marketing agency Hop Online, was our recent guest on Agency Journey.
He shared insights on crafting first-party data strategies that can help agencies avoid disrupted campaigns when third party cookies expire.
Paris also discussed expanding service offerings with data science capabilities; making use of new privacy-focused technologies like his AI platform pLTV; specific and actionable personal branding tips; and optimizing operations with tools like ClickUp.
Tune in if you want to ensure your agency has a plan to preserve ROI as the digital advertising landscape evolves.
Episode Insights:
💡 Why third party cookie loss will cause ad performance to “tank”
💡 The pressing need for agencies to focus on first-party data strategies
💡 Why agencies should start expanding into data science capabilities
💡 How Paris’ pLTV platform leverages AI to predict customer lifetime value
💡 Successfully Hop Online’s entire CRM over to ClickUp
💡 The importance of personal branding for agency leadership
💡 Hiring data scientists as a key recommendation for agencies
Resources Mentioned:
📚 Paris’s agency: https://hop.online/
📚 pLTV – Paris’ Predictive Lifetime Value platform: https://www.pltv.ai/
📚 ClickUp as a CRM! Watch our full bonus video with Paris about this here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdgpnC63az0
If your agency is unprepared for the major privacy shifts underway, don't miss exploring Paris’ actionable insights around optimizing for the cookieless future.
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Want to take your agency to the next level? Learn how Matthew leveraged EOS, strategic partnerships, and custom ecommerce solutions to optimize operations and expand offerings over 9 years in business. His proven strategies can help your agency demonstrate ROI and pave the path to sustainable growth.
Matthew McIver shares his journey evolving Commence Studio from a service-based creative agency into a productized business selling themes on Shopify.
Learn how EOS and Traction shaped their growth, why they partner with larger firms, and how custom ecommerce sites demonstrate clearer ROI for clients.
Matthew also explains how virtual tools like Float enable better financial visibility and why you should standardize systems instead of reinventing the wheel.
Tune in for a transparent peek behind the scenes at an agency optimizing their operations and expanding their offerings over 9 years in business.
Episode Insights:
💡 Implementing EOS framework for meeting cadences, planning, and clearer roles
💡 Transitioning from service-based revenue to product-based revenue with a Shopify theme
💡 Leveraging expertise into products/services others can use
💡 Partnering with larger agencies to provide specialized services
💡 Using custom Shopify themes over off-the-shelf themes to showcase branded experiences
💡 Proving ROI for clients easier with ecommerce sites vs. B2B sites
💡 Embracing a "collaboration over competition" mindset with agency partners
💡 Learning from other successful service firms to constantly improve your own customer experience
Resources Mentioned:
📚 Matthew’s agency: https://commence.studio/
📚 EOS (Entrepreneurs' Operating System)
📚 Traction by Gino Wickman
📚 The Power of Habit by Charles Duhigg
📚 Float app for cash flow forecasting
📚 Entrepreneurs' Organization (EO)
📚 Shopify Partners
If you're a creative agency looking to expand your offerings or prove ROI for clients, don't miss this episode.
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Running a professional services agency? You need compelling case studies to close sales. But most video case studies end up dry, boring, and forgettable.
So how do you create video case studies that captivate prospects and accelerate deals?
In this episode of Agency Journey, host Gray MacKenzie interviews Ian Garlic, founder of Video Case Story. Ian shares his proven process for producing video case studies that get results. He also talks about writing a book, starting a partnership program, and much more.
Episode Insights:
💡 Why emotional storytelling through video builds trust and shortens sales cycles
💡 How to carve out time each week for collecting customer stories
💡 Letting customer stories guide your overall strategy and offerings
💡 Why leadership should always find time to review customer stories
💡 Crafting a compelling video script focused on the client’s journey
💡 Following a clear story framework from problem to solution
💡 Repurposing case study content across multiple channels
💡 Adopting a YouTube strategy focused on becoming an educational resource vs. chasing views
💡 Writing a book to establish yourself as a thought leader
💡 Building a tight-knit partner program community
💡 The importance of process documentation and constant improvement
Resources Mentioned:
📚 Ian's book "Video Testimonials That Land the Big Fish"
📚 Immersion by Dr. Paul J. Zak
📚 Snow Leopard by Category Pirates
Ian offers fantastic tips and frameworks any agency can apply to create video case studies that truly showcase value and drive sales.
Whether you're looking to refine your case study process or get started from scratch, this episode will get your video case studies converting.
👉 Don’t forget to follow and rate us on your preferred podcast platforms. We’re also on YouTube: @ZenPilot
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Running a marketing agency is hard. Running one remotely across several time zones? Even harder.
So how do you keep a distributed team aligned, motivated, and growing together?
In this episode of Agency Journey, host Gray MacKenzie interviews Janet Mesh, CEO and co-founder of Aimtal, a fully remote marketing agency. We dig into the keys that accelerated Aimtal’s growth over the past 5 years.
Janet shares how Aimtal has doubled its team and revenue each year through an intentional focus on talent, culture, and streamlined operations.
Episode Insights:
Implementing clear processes and documentation enabled Aimtal to effectively manage a distributed team across 7 time zonesHosting immersive annual retreats reconnects their remote team and aligns everyone on vision and goalsHow Aimtal structures retreats to maximize bonding and alignmentFocusing on talent, values, and culture fit over geography gives Aimtal access to the best talent globallyThe importance of intention in building a thriving remote agency and teamRelying on tools like Rippling to streamline operations and free up bandwidth as they scaleLeading with transparency and vulnerability as keys to remote team successResources Mentioned:
Rippling - For HR/IT managementGuru - Knowledge base softwareTravelPerk - Travel management platformAnthropic - AI assistant toolWhether you're building a remote agency or colocated team, Janet offers fantastic insights into leading with intention, investing in processes and culture, and scaling successfully.
👉 Don’t forget to follow and rate us on your preferred podcast platforms. We’re also on YouTube: @ZenPilot
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Ask any agency owner and they’ll tell you—growth doesn’t happen by accident. It takes strategy, systems, and support.
So how do you choose the right blueprint to guide your agency’s growth? What if that blueprint could help you smash through plateaus and scale your team 10x?
In this episode of Agency Journey, host Gray MacKenzie interviews Tyler Dolph, CEO of Rocket Clicks. We'll dig deep into how EOS (The Entrepreneurial Operating System) helped transform Rocket Clicks into the Agency that it is today.
Episode Insights:
How implementing EOS helped the agency establish clear roles, vision, and processes to enable growthWhy focusing obsessively on client retention, not just sales, fueled sustainable growthThe importance of Investing intentionally in culture like immersive onboarding and events strengthened their distributed teamStrategies to analyzing top clients revealed their ideal target market to focus growth effortsAI offers opportunities to double down on human-centered strategies and relationships vs trying to competeResources and People Mentioned:
Rocket Clicks WebsiteEOS WebsiteEOS ToolsTraction by Gino WickmanJohn LaFontsee's LinkedInJohn Morriss LinkedInRamsay Innovations Website (Now known as EngineBI)Avoma -
Struggling to get your team aligned on goals and metrics? Wish your company culture was more productive and humane?
Mark Abbott, founder and CEO of Ninety, shares how and the importance to implement tools to empower employees and build a resilient organization. In this episode, Mark discusses the specifics of designing effective scorecards, setting targets vs goals, and getting team member buy-in and so much more.
Episode Insights:
Why companies are complex adaptive systems. The best ones are explicit, coherent and resonant with all stakeholders.What mastery means being able to teach it to others - true understanding goes deeper than just reading a book.How to have Leadership through agreements is better than old school "command and control." Scorecards set targets to avoid micromanaging.Why having 3-5 KPIs per person (quality, quantity, process, show up) provides guardrails and autonomy.The importance on having a quality, quantity, process and show up element that can be measured in any role.Why focus on issues, not chasing goals. Green across the board but missing the target shouldn't require intervention.How implementing scorecards quickly gets alignment. Trust people to know the right KPIs for their role.Why great companies are extraordinarily productive, humane and resilient.Resources mentioned in this episode:
Ninety.ioEOSEOS ToolsTractionThe Great CEO WithinThe E-MythBuilt to Sell -
In this episode, Kuba shares his vision for ZenPilot Marketing. He details his strategy to transition ZenPilot's perception from merely a ClickUp implementation partner to a team of agency operations experts. Kuba emphasizes the importance of promoting the ZenPilot team and using platforms like YouTube and LinkedIn to highlight their expertise and unique personalities, fostering a more connected audience.
Kuba also offers valuable insights into "low-hanging marketing fruit" for agencies. He discusses the importance of investing in team development and leveraging their individual personalities to build a loyal audience. He highlights the value of using AI tools like ChatGPT for content repurposing, and encourages agencies to focus on creating high-quality content around crucial keywords.
Vision for ZenPilot MarketingLow-Hanging Marketing Fruit for AgenciesThe importance focus on creating one or a few pieces of high-quality content around important keywords.Why you need to invest in developing your team’s personalities and give them a platform to share their expertise.How your mindset as a leader trickles down to your team and agency.Kuba’s Best Tip for Agency Operators: Work on Your Mindset
In this episode, you'll learn:Presenting Sponsor: ZenPilot
If you're an agency owner or leader looking to level up your operations and maximize your team's potential, then we have the perfect solution for you.
ZenPilot knows that you are tired of wasting time on trial and error — that's why we provide tried-and-true solutions that will help you grow and scale quickly and sustainably.
So, what are you waiting for?
Go to zenpilot.com to learn more.
Resources mentioned in this episode:
Jakub Grajcar LinkedInZenPilot's WebsiteGray MacKenzie's LinkedIn -
Do you struggle to create work that truly resonates with your audience? The ability to craft stories and messages that forge meaningful connections is what separates good creators from great ones. In today’s episode, host Gray MacKenzie sits down with storytelling expert Jay Acunzo.
Jay Acunzo, The founder of the Creator Kitchen, a membership program helping you push yourself creatively. He's also an author, speaker, and host of the award-winning podcast Unthinkable, where creative people take us inside the unconventional choices they made to break from best practices.
How to resonate with your audience by crafting memorable storiesLearn about posture and practice and what it means as an creative.The four ways to communicate with your audience.What stories should be focused on.How to practice crafting stories and work on developing your own narrative style.What does the Creator Kitchen community look likeJay's recommended people to followThe Unthinkable Podcast Process
In this episode, you'll learn:Presenting Sponsor: ZenPilot
If you're an agency owner or leader looking to level up your operations and maximize your team's potential, then we have the perfect solution for you.
ZenPilot knows that you are tired of wasting time on trial and error — that's why we provide tried-and-true solutions that will help you grow and scale quickly and sustainably.
So, what are you waiting for?
Go to zenpilot.com to learn more.
Resources mentioned in this episode:
Unthinkable PodcastCreator Kitchen's WebsiteJay Acunzo's WebsiteJay Acunzo's LinkedInTotal ANNARCHY NewsletterPlaying Favorites NewsletterGray MacKenzie's LinkedIn -
In this episode, Erika Zeigyte, CEO of a consulting & recruitment agency called Prosana. joins Gray Mackenzie to discuss the intricacies of hiring an A+ talent for your agency.
Erika also shares her insights into what makes for great agency candidates, how to build an effective hiring process, the benefits of using a recruiting agency, interview techniques, and recommended tools for recruiting.
In this episode, you'll learn:
What makes someone a good fit for an agency?How to vet candidates for agency rolesHow to balance candidate experience with thoroughly vetting candidatesThe common positions recruited in an agencyHiring challenges with junior candidatesThe elements of a first-class hiring processProsana's hiring processHow to source and qualify candidates effectivelyWays to do an effective outreach to candidate prospectsRecruitment agency tech stackWhen to consider using an outside recruiting agency (pros and cons)Effective interview questions to ask a talent during interviewPresenting Sponsor: ZenPilot
If you're an agency owner or leader looking to level up your operations and maximize your team's potential, then we have the perfect solution for you.
ZenPilot knows that you are tired of wasting time on trial and error — that's why we provide tried-and-true solutions that will help you grow and scale quickly and sustainably.
So, what are you waiting for?
Go to zenpilot.com to learn more.
Resources mentioned in this episode:
Erika Zeigyte's LinkedinProsana's WebsiteClickUpAsanaJeb BlountGray MacKenzie's Linkedin -
Misti Ferris holds the “Integrator” seat at digital marketing agency Roger West Creative & Code, which means she ensures that everyone is dancing to the same beat called EOS (even the creatives).
In addition to the Integrator role, Misti serves as Vice President of Operations, where her “3 M” mantra: marketer, minimalist and mom (of 4 daughters) is the driving force behind all things requiring structure, process and a firm yet loving nudge.
In this episode, you'll learn:
How EOS provides structure and discipline that still allows for creativity in agencies and marketing firms.Why providing transparency into the company's vision and goals builds trust and helps employees understand the purpose behind operational changes.How bi-directional feedback between managers and employees improves communication and relationships but takes time to implement fully.What tools are available for managing EOS, so companies should evaluate options based on their needs and preferences.Best practices on continuously documenting processes and procedures prepares agencies for growth opportunities like new clients, ventures, and services.Presenting Sponsor: ZenPilot
If you're an agency owner or leader looking to level up your operations and maximize your team's potential, then we have the perfect solution for you.
ZenPilot knows that you are tired of wasting time on trial and error — that's why we provide tried-and-true solutions that will help you grow and scale quickly and sustainably.
So, what are you waiting for?
Go to zenpilot.com to learn more.
Resources mentioned in this episode:
Misti Ferris LinkedinGray MacKenzie LinkedinRoger West WebsiteEOS WebsiteEOS Tools - Show more
