Episodios

  • 这期调戏栏目我们分享瑞典除了易卜生之外在19/20世纪之交的另外一位戏剧大师,现代戏剧、尤其是表现主义奠基人的 August Strindberg 以及他的代表作之一 The Ghost Sonata 「鬼魂奏鸣曲」,也有翻译为「魔鬼奏鸣曲」。嘉宾是方瞾和Gigi。


    视频链接

    魔鬼奏鸣曲,英格玛·伯格曼2000年版

    https://youtu.be/HJ3tvOni270

    https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1ks411G7DC


    节目中提到的作品信息


    话剧

    鬼魂奏鸣曲,斯特林堡

    朱莉小姐,斯特林堡

    https://book.douban.com/subject/1968004/


    话剧

    群鬼,易卜生

    https://book.douban.com/subject/1792474/


    话剧

    玩偶之家,易卜生

    https://book.douban.com/subject/3534238/


    小说

    红房间,斯特林堡

    https://book.douban.com/subject/1987674/


    非虚构

    Strindberg and Van Gogh, Karl Jaspers

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Strindberg-van-Gogh-Karl-Jaspers/dp/0816506086


    非虚构

    A History of Scandinavian Theatre, Federick Marker

    https://book.douban.com/subject/12034267/


    小说

    逆流,于斯曼

    https://book.douban.com/subject/26666169/


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  • 这周我们分享文学史上的一部奇书,法国作家于斯曼(Joris-Karl Huysmans)的颓废主义经典小说「逆流」/ À rebours。高高请假,只有益康糯米和张宇凌参与录制。


    节目中提到的作品信息


    小说

    逆流/À rebours,于斯曼

    https://book.douban.com/subject/26666169/


    误读会

    让我们一起误读冈查洛夫的「奥勃洛莫夫」,文化土豆

    https://cutt.ly/cmN3JsU


    摄影集

    Carlo Mollino Polaroids

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Carlo-Mollino-Polaroids/dp/8862083785


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  • 这周三刷是文化土豆第二次了费里尼经典之作的「八部半」,为了搭配这部梦幻和现实同在的电影,我们同时也看了黑泽明1990年的人生最后一部作品,由八部短片组成的「夢」。


    节目中提到的作品信息:


    文化土豆另外一次聊「八部半」的节目


    电影

    8½ / 八部半,费里尼

    https://movie.douban.com/subject/1361276


    电影

    Dreams /「夢」,黑泽明

    https://youtu.be/RcXk_PLrHp8


    电影

    太阳照常升起,姜文

    https://movie.douban.com/subject/1766086


    电影

    胭脂扣,关锦鹏

    https://movie.douban.com/subject/1299288


    编辑推荐

    小说

    喀耳刻/Circe,玛德琳·米勒

    https://book.douban.com/subject/35268450


    小说

    阿基里斯之歌,玛德琳·米勒

    https://book.douban.com/subject/25858746


    小说

    逆流,于斯曼

    https://book.douban.com/subject/26666169


    电影

    La Strada/大路,费里尼

    https://movie.douban.com/subject/1292719


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  • 这期 Unpack 栏目我们分享 Adam Smith 的 The Theory of Moral Sentiments。这期节目可以在苹果播客应用中付费订阅收听(中国内地苹果ID账户除外),或者在 culturepotato.com 付费注册收听。


    节目中提到的亚当·斯密的作品


    正式出版

    道德情操论/The Theory of Moral Sentiments

    https://book.douban.com/subject/1116367


    国富论/The Wealth of Nations

    https://book.douban.com/subject/1261560/


    学生笔记整理:

    修辞学和文学/Lectures on Rhetoric & Belle Lettres

    法理学讲义/Lectures on Jurisprudence

    https://book.douban.com/subject/26143661/


    另外在节目准备中主播参考的资料

    Adam Smith: What He Thought, and Why it Matters, Jesse Norman

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Adam-Smith-What-Thought-Matters/dp/0241328497


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  • 这期我们第一次走进日本舞台,观看日本著名话剧导演蜷川幸雄的「武藏 Musashi」,剧本是剧作家是井上厦根据1930年代吉川英治的小说「宫本武藏」。这部剧曾经在上海巡演。


    节目中提到的作品信息


    舞台剧

    武藏 Musashi,蜷川幸雄导演

    https://www.douban.com/location/drama/11602716/

    播放链接:https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1Mt4y117oQ


    历史小说

    宫本武藏·剑与道,吉川英治

    https://book.douban.com/subject/1441488/


    南柯梦记,汤显祖

    https://book.douban.com/subject/3112058/


    非虚构

    菊与刀,鲁思·本尼迪克特

    https://book.douban.com/subject/1022238/


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  • 上周主播去了一趟利物浦,中午到,第二天下午走,暴走 24 小时,利物浦双年展,嘉宾是播客艺术有读的主播 Sammi。


    节目中提到的信息


    利物浦双年展

    https://www.biennial.com


    秘密遣返中国海员,卫报调查

    https://www.theguardian.com/news/2021/may/25/chinese-merchant-seamen-liverpool-deportations


    Liverpool International Slavery Museum

    https://www.liverpoolmuseums.org.uk/international-slavery-museum


    “火锅教堂” Liverpool Metropolitan Museum

    https://www.liverpoolmetrocathedral.org.uk


    利物浦美味轩餐厅

    https://www.meimeiliverpool.com


    利物浦奴隶贸易在线导览

    https://youtu.be/pMody0pLUAw


    探访利物浦中国城

    https://youtu.be/ZwG4t9HE6mk


    艺术家郑波主页

    http://zhengbo.org


    LUSH 利物浦旗舰店

    https://www.lush.com/uk/en/a/inside-worlds-biggest-lush-shop


    The Blue Coat

    https://www.thebluecoat.org.uk


    Monobloc 椅子

    https://www.design-museum.de/en/exhibitions/detailpages/monobloc-a-chair-for-the-world.html


    Pan African flags by Larry Achiampong

    https://www.biennial.com/2021/exhibition/artists/larry-achiampong


    利物浦 St George’s Hall

    https://www.stgeorgeshallliverpool.co.uk


    Index 系列,Xaviera Simmons

    https://www.biennial.com/2021/exhibition/artists/xaviera-simmons


    Crosby Beach Another Place, Antony Gormley

    https://www.visitliverpool.com/things-to-do/another-place-by-antony-gormley-p160981


    Tate Liverpool

    https://www.tate.org.uk/visit/tate-liverpool


    Don McCullin 摄影展,Tate Liverpool

    https://www.tate.org.uk/whats-on/tate-liverpool/exhibition/don-mccullin


    餐厅 The Italian Club Fish

    https://www.theitalianclubfamily.com/the-italian-club-fish/


    益康糯米利物浦照片集

    https://photos.app.goo.gl/DFAih6Dbqhvuz5FR6


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  • 欢迎大家收听文化土豆第200期节目! 这期节目之前有两位听众发来的问候 ❤️。这周轮到我们的看老片的新栏目“三刷”,我们看的东方电影是小津安二郎的「东京物语」Tokyo Story,西方电影是得过六次奥斯卡最佳导演奖的约翰·福特的「青山翠谷」How Green Was My Valley。


    节目中提到的作品信息


    电影

    东京物语,小津安二郎

    https://movie.douban.com/subject/1291568/


    非虚构

    我是开豆腐店的,我只做豆腐,小津安二郎

    https://book.douban.com/subject/22542435/


    电影

    东京家族,山田洋次

    https://movie.douban.com/subject/5996409/


    电影

    茶泡饭之味,小津安二郎

    https://movie.douban.com/subject/1306183/


    文章

    日本美學淺談:「物哀」的秘密

    https://www.tsunagujapan.com/zh-hant/mono-no-aware/


    电影

    How Green Was My Valley/青山翠谷,John Ford

    https://movie.douban.com/subject/1293322/


    电影

    城南旧事,吴贻弓

    https://movie.douban.com/subject/1300894/


    编辑推荐


    电影

    一路北上 Long Way Up,Apple TV+

    https://movie.douban.com/subject/35165400/


    非虚构

    製造反革命: 柳幸福案與文革時期的基層法制生態,王海光

    http://t.hk.uy/uBq



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  • 1921-1932年陆续出版的捷克长篇小说「好兵帅克历险记」The Good Soldier Švejk 讲述了一个性格温顺,头脑简单的中年男人“帅克”在第一次世界大战中假装积极参军的历险故事。这本书的的插图是由艺术家 Josef Lada 完成,全书一共三卷半,作者哈谢克 Jaroslav Hašek 在小说完成前心脏病去世,当时不到40岁。


    节目中提到的作品信息


    小说

    好兵帅克历险记(人民文学),哈谢克

    https://book.douban.com/subject/26786086/


    诗集

    世界美如斯,雅罗斯拉夫·赛弗尔特

    https://book.douban.com/subject/1469414/


    电影

    好兵帅克(1957)

    https://movie.douban.com/subject/1458187/


    电影

    西线无战事(1930)

    https://movie.douban.com/subject/1295116/


    播客

    一战百年特别节目,文化土豆

    https://youtu.be/xBff_Dvaj_c




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  • 这期“调戏”栏目我们分享在美国 Oregon Shakespeare Festival 2018 年上演的美版「窦娥冤」Snow in Midsummer。这部剧是基于我们的主播 Gigi 受英国 Royal Shakespeare Company 委托翻译的元杂剧剧本,由美国剧作家 Frances Ya-chu Cowhig(高雅竹)改编,Justin Audibert 导演。


    节目中提到的作品信息:


    舞台剧

    Snow in Midsummer,Frances Cowhig

    https://www.osfashland.org/en/productions/2021-digital-plays/d-snow-in-midsummer.aspx


    元杂剧

    感天动地窦娥冤,关汉卿

    https://www.shiwenlu.com/qu/68812.html


    戏剧节

    Oregon Shakespeare Festival

    https://www.osfashland.org


    翻译计划

    Chinese Classics Translation Project

    https://www.rsc.org.uk/about-us/our-work-in-china/chinese-classics-translation-project


    仙侠剧

    陈情令,郑伟文

    https://movie.douban.com/subject/27195020/


    动画

    魔道祖师,墨香铜臭

    https://movie.douban.com/subject/27015848/



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  • 公元前431年,Euripides 的 Medea 首次在雅典的酒神节演出,观众可能预期看到的悲剧是“妈妈再爱我一次”,但是剧作家给到雅典观众的,确是一个母亲冰冷的复仇逻辑,这个故事想必在当时的雅典造成了不小的丑闻,在三出参与竞赛的戏剧中排名第三。在希腊男人的世界里,没有什么比一个喜欢搞事的聪明女人更可怕的事情,Medea 可能是希腊女人中最聪明的一个,Medea 当然在成为历史上最可怕母亲之前,早已因为协助 Jason 获取金羊毛名声在外,一个危险、聪明,来自异乡的巫女。因为 Euripdes 的这部作品,Medea 成为了戏剧史上最不朽的女性角色,在两千多年的历史中,大部分时间由男性扮演。我们今天讨论的Meda是NTLive 2014年版本的,出演 Medea的是最近辞世的英国演员,Helen McCrory 海伦·麦克洛瑞。


    节目中提到的作品信息


    话剧

    美狄亚/Medea,欧里庇得斯/Euripides,NTLive

    https://movie.douban.com/subject/26329520/


    播客

    文化土豆聊浴血黑帮

    https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/id1243945491?i=1000451488752


    播客

    文化土豆聊国土安全

    https://podcasts.apple.com/ph/podcast/id1243945491?i=1000475410922


    美剧

    亿万 Billions,HBO

    https://movie.douban.com/subject/26200198/


    英剧

    狼厅,BBC

    https://movie.douban.com/subject/25823904/


    话剧

    俄狄浦斯王,索福克勒斯

    https://book.douban.com/subject/1076330/


    话剧

    俄瑞斯忒亚,埃斯库罗斯

    http://dwz.date/eYpH


    非虚构

    诗学,亚里士多德

    https://book.douban.com/subject/1036446/


    剧本

    费德尔/Phaedra,拉辛/Racine

    https://book.douban.com/subject/3237917/


    游戏

    刺客信条奥德赛/AC Odyssey,Ubisoft

    https://www.douban.com/game/30237482/


    油画

    Medea about to Kill her Children/Medée furious, Eugene Delacroix

    https://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search/702769


    播客

    调戏贝克特「克拉普最后的碟带」

    https://podcasts.apple.com/podcast/id1243945491?i=1000510992874


    原声带

    Medea,Goldfrapp

    https://youtu.be/kZQ1_Xelb_o


    电影

    爱 Amour, Michael Haneke

    https://movie.douban.com/subject/4798707/


    电影

    Downfall/帝国的毁灭,Oliver Hirschbiegel

    https://movie.douban.com/subject/1309115/


    关于阿波罗于酒神的意向出自

    悲剧的诞生,尼采

    https://book.douban.com/subject/1063852/


    小说

    法国中尉的女人,John Fowles

    https://book.douban.com/subject/27071333/


    剧本

    西厢记,王实莆

    https://book.douban.com/subject/1016631/


    剧本

    窦娥冤,关汉卿

    https://book.douban.com/subject/1023595/


    剧本

    赵氏孤儿,纪君祥

    https://book.douban.com/subject/1023595/


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  • 这期是我们分享经典老片的 #三刷 栏目第二期,我们分享两部大名鼎鼎,值得七刷八刷的「公民凯恩」和「小城之春」。更正:节目中益康糯米提到的 The War of the Worlds 不是电影,是 1938 年 Orson Welles 导演和主演的根据 HG Wells 同名小说改编的广播剧。


    节目中提到的作品信息


    电影

    「公民凯恩」Citizen Kane,Orson Welles

    https://movie.douban.com/subject/1292288/


    广播剧

    War of the worlds, Orson Welles

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_War_of_the_Worlds_(1938_radio_drama)


    电影

    「小城之春」,费穆

    https://movie.douban.com/subject/1323746/


    电影

    「斩经堂」,费穆

    https://movie.douban.com/subject/2295850/


    电影

    「古中国之歌」,费穆

    https://movie.douban.com/subject/2295855/



    编辑推荐


    非虚构

    「梦余说梦」,黄爱玲

    https://book.douban.com/subject/30230104/


    电影

    「狼山喋血记」,费穆

    https://movie.douban.com/subject/1461808/


    电影

    「青山翠谷」How Green Was My Valley,John Ford

    https://movie.douban.com/subject/1293322/


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  • 这周我们 unpack 一本攻击人文主义的当代经典非虚构,英国哲学家 John Gray 的 Straw Dogs。


    参考信息:


    非虚构


    稻草狗,约翰·格雷

    https://book.douban.com/subject/27127383


    动物沉默,约翰·格雷

    https://book.douban.com/subject/27159647/


    Feline Philosophy,John Gray

    https://www.penguin.co.uk/books/309/309154/feline-philosophy/9780241351147.html


    哲学家 A. C. Grayling 对John Gray 的两篇批评文章:


    Through the looking glass

    https://newhumanist.org.uk/articles/1423/through-the-looking-glass


    Gray's Elegy

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2008/mar/18/grayselegy


    视频

    作家 Will Self 和 John Gray 辩论“猫还是狗”,Intelligence Squared

    https://youtu.be/4TEJZWQW7wE


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  • 这期误读会我们分享捷克作家米兰·昆德拉Milan Kundera1990年出版的小说「不朽」。嘉宾是张宇凌和高高。


    昆德拉的小说作品分别是:


    「玩笑」(1967年)

    「好笑的愛」(短篇小说集,1968年)

    「生活在他方」(1969年)

    「告别圆舞曲」(1976年)

    「笑忘書」(又譯「笑忘錄」)(1978年)

    「生命中不能承受之輕」(1984年)

    「不朽」(1990年)

    「慢」(1995年)

    「身份」(1998年)

    「無知」(2000年)

    「慶祝無意義」(2013年以意大利文發表,中譯本2014出版)


    节目中提到的作品信息:


    小说

    Immortality 「不朽」,米兰·昆德拉

    https://book.douban.com/subject/1060117


    小说

    The Unbearable Lightness of Being 「生命中不能承受之轻」,米兰·昆德拉

    https://book.douban.com/subject/1433377


    电影

    布拉格之恋,丹尼尔·戴-刘易斯 / 朱丽叶·比诺什 

    https://movie.douban.com/subject/1291859


    非虚构

    米兰·昆德拉:一种作家人生,让–多米尼克•布里埃 

    https://book.douban.com/subject/35285924/


    口述历史

    二手时间,S. A. 阿列克谢耶维奇

    https://book.douban.com/subject/26704403/


    德剧

    德国八九年 Deutschland 89,Sundance TV

    https://movie.douban.com/subject/30454891/


    报道

    Report Says Acclaimed Czech Writer Informed on a Supposed Spy, NYTimes

    https://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/14/world/europe/14czech.html?smid=url-share


    播客

    Unpack 以赛亚柏林的「浪漫主义的根源」,文化土豆

    https://culturepotato.com/unpack-the-roots-of-romanticism


    编辑推荐:


    英剧

    Line of Duty/「重任在肩」第六季, BBC

    https://movie.douban.com/subject/27062703/


    杂志

    「三联生活周刊无聊研究」

    4.12日出版


    小说

    「克拉拉与太阳」,石黑一雄



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  • 这周调戏栏目分享的剧目是这部美国剧作家 Augusut Wilson 奥古斯特·威尔逊 1984 年的话剧「莱妮大妈的黑臀」Ma Rainey’s Black Bottom。这部话剧最近被 Netflix 翻拍成为同名电影,也正好是今年奥斯卡奖最佳男主提名,Chuck Boseman (漫威海报扮演者),生前最后一部作品,电影的中文名叫「蓝调天后」。


    威尔逊以编年史的方式创作了10部发生在匹兹堡的系列话剧,分别展现了20世纪美国黑人在每一个10年的历史。Ma Rainey’s Black Bottom 的故事发生在 1920 年代。


    威尔逊的匹兹堡系列话剧 Pittsburg Cycle分别是:


    1900s: Gem of the Ocean (2003)

    1910s: Joe Turner’s Come and Gone (1986)

    1920s: Ma Rainey’s Black Bottom (1984)

    1930s: The Piano Lesson (1987)

    1940s: Seven Guitars (1995)

    1950s: Fences (1985)

    1960s: Two Trains Running (1990)

    1970s: Jitney (1982)

    1980s: King Hedley II (1999)

    1990s: Radio Golf (2005)


    节目中提到的作品信息:


    电影

    「蓝调天后」Ma Rainey’s Black Bottom, Netflix

    https://movie.douban.com/subject/34439631/


    电影

    「冲出康普顿」Straight Outta Compton, F Gary Gray

    https://movie.douban.com/subject/3608742/


    电影

    「为奴十二年」12 Years a Slave,Steve McQueen

    https://movie.douban.com/subject/6879185/


    电影

    「白宫管家」The Butler,Lee Daniels

    https://movie.douban.com/subject/3292949/


    美术馆

    National Museum of African American History & Culture, Smithsonian

    https://nmaahc.si.edu


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  • 这周我们 Launch 一个新的月播栏目叫 #三刷,每次重温两部历久弥新的电影作品。这个栏目的的常设主播搭配是晏礼中和樊夏,我们准备先做10期看看。


    节目中提到的作品信息


    电影

    少林寺,李连杰

    https://movie.douban.com/subject/1301198/


    电影

    佐罗,阿兰·德龙

    https://movie.douban.com/subject/1291866/


    编辑推荐


    时装秀

    Celine Homme “Teen Knight Poem”

    https://youtu.be/JXEjb7VpkjI


    美剧

    基地恶灵第一季,AMC

    https://movie.douban.com/subject/24722767/


    小说

    中士还乡,阎连科

    https://book.douban.com/subject/26337746/


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  • 玛格丽特·米德(Margaret Mead)可能是全世界最有名的人类学家,她在 1925 年前往南太平洋岛国的萨摩耶岛(Samoa),融入当地部落生活,在调查了萨摩亚人的生活后写成的一本「萨摩亚人的成年」(Coming of Age in Samoa)1928 年在美国出版引起轰动。米德记录下的萨萨摩亚少女,在青春期就有开放自由的性生活,同性恋情,晚婚,婚外恋和和离婚并不让人惊讶,而且似乎有着比文明社会人们更健康的心理。在过去的近一百年间,虽然这本书一直饱受争议,但是米德的这本书不仅改变了人类学的研究方式,似乎还像先知一样,指明了现代人性观念的变化方。这里是这期节目的预览部分,完整节目一共 45 分钟,只有在文化土豆的官网 culturepotato.com,购买赞助人计划后,在 Unpack 栏目页面点击收听。

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  • 这期节目我们和上海的樊夏连线聊聊赵婷的金球奖、金狮奖桂冠得主 Nomadland 和 Netflix 上的新黑白电影 Malcolm & Marie。


    节目中提到的作品信息


    电影

    Nomadland 无伊之地,赵婷

    https://movie.douban.com/subject/30458949/


    非虚构

    Nomadland,Jessica Bruder

    https://book.douban.com/subject/27146694/


    电影

    骑士 The Rider,赵婷

    https://movie.douban.com/subject/27012772/


    音乐视频

    Elegy for the Arctic,Ludovico Einaudi

    https://youtu.be/2DLnhdnSUVs


    航海Vlogger

    Sailing La Vagabond

    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCZdQjaSoLjIzFnWsDQOv4ww


    电影

    Malcolm & Marie/马尔科姆与玛丽, Netflix

    https://movie.douban.com/subject/35135958/


    电影

    婚姻故事/Marriage Story,Noah Baumbach

    https://movie.douban.com/celebrity/1049678/


    编辑推荐


    动画短片

    Lost & Found

    https://www.lostandfound.film


    纪录片

    Fake Famous 虚名,Nick Bilton

    https://movie.douban.com/subject/35337704/


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  • 这周调戏栏目我们看看爱尔兰剧作家,1969年诺贝尔文学奖得主塞缪尔·贝克特 Samuel Beckett 的话剧作品,但不是「等待戈多」!而是「克拉普最后的录音带」—— 一部很多男性老戏骨在演艺生涯尾声都会尝试发挥和解读的独角戏。嘉宾是Gigi和方曌。我们观看的是 John Hurts 2000 录制的版本。


    克拉普的最后碟带 Krapp’s Last Tape 观剧链接

    https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1Cx411p7Zm


    其他链接也可以在 YouTube 上搜索到


    节目中提到的其他作品信息


    Samuel Beckett 的话剧


    Krapp’s Last Tape/克拉普最后的录音带

    https://movie.douban.com/subject/2243290


    Waiting for Godot/等待戈多

    https://book.douban.com/subject/26747147


    Endgame/终局

    https://book.douban.com/subject/26747152


    Happy Days/开心的日子

    https://book.douban.com/subject/26747155


    视频

    Harold Pinter on Samuel Beckett

    https://youtu.be/-N99S8n2TiA


    小说

    Effi Briest,Theodor Fontane

    https://book.douban.com/subject/1880661/


    小说

    The man in the gray flannel suit/穿灰色法兰绒套装的男人,David Sloan

     Wilson

    https://book.douban.com/subject/25838255/


    小说

    The Mandarins/名士风流,Simone de Beauvoir

    https://book.douban.com/subject/1079208/


    电影

    哥斯拉(1954), 本多猪四郎 

    https://movie.douban.com/subject/2059276/


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  • 很多人都看过铁叔饰演的「故园风雨后」,但是也许你并不了解英国作家伊夫林·沃的拿手好戏其实是他在加入天主教之前的写得那些精干恶毒的讽刺小说。这期误读会我们选择了一篇结合了婚外恋、游记、还甚至有点“黑镜”的「一抔尘土」,故事发生在英格兰乡村古宅、伦敦的绅士俱乐部和亚马逊的原始丛林里。嘉宾是高高和张宇凌。


    文化土豆的的一些其他节目也和伊夫林·沃及其时代有关:


    一战停战日百年纪念特辑

    https://podcasts.apple.com/podcast/id1243945491?i=1000423512699

    威廉·莫里斯与工美运动

    https://podcasts.apple.com/podcast/id1243945491?i=1000460912527



    节目中提到的作品信息


    小说

    一抔尘土/A Handful of Dust,Evelyn Waugh

    https://book.douban.com/subject/27045891


    长诗

    荒原 Wasteland,TS Eliot

    https://book.douban.com/subject/6440343


    报告文学

    The Coronatino of Haile Selassie, Evelyn Waugh

    https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/883282


    小说

    故园风雨后/Brideshead Revisited,Evelyn Waugh

    https://book.douban.com/subject/26975428


    英剧故园风雨后(1981)

    https://movie.douban.com/subject/1439497/


    电影故园风雨后(2008)

    https://movie.douban.com/subject/2034997/


    小说

    衰落与瓦解/Decline and Fall,Evelyn Waugh

    https://book.douban.com/subject/21346006/


    小说

    独家新闻/Scoop,Evelyn Waugh

    https://book.douban.com/subject/27045190/


    法剧

    Engrenages(共八季)

    https://movie.douban.com/subject/3661930/



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  • 这期春节期间发布的节目,主播和 Richard 一起分享 Hoxton Books 书店的装修工作,特别是不同的书架、桌椅、吊灯背后的故事。这个 pop-up 系列是通过简单慢速英文录制,文字信息由 Otter.AI 整理。


    节目中提到的信息链接


    606 Universal Bookshelf

    wiloyem255@donmah.com


    纪录片 RAMS

    https://www.hustwit.com/rams


    Krossing 书架

    https://www.kriptonite.com/en/products/krossing


    Tylko Type 2 书架

    https://tylko.com/shelf/bookcases/1504423/


    Tiptoe 桌腿

    https://www.tiptoe.fr/en/table-legs/


    Bertoia Molded Shell Side Chair

    https://www.knoll.com/product/bertoia-molded-side-chair


    Dr Glob Chair by Philippe Starck

    http://collections.vam.ac.uk/item/O144604/dr-glob-chair-philippe-starck/dr-glob-chair-starck-philippe/ 


    文字信息:


    Yifan 

    Hi, Richard


    Yifan 

    So what are we going to talk about this week? 


    Richard 

    Well, actually, let me let me wish everyone a Happy New Year. Oh, right. Happy, happy, happy New Year of the ox. Yeah. Thank you. Happy New Year, everyone. So this week, we're gonna talk about the shop design. So the format is going to be slightly different. In that, I will be asking you fun, a few questions about how the design of the shop came about. Just a little update on the situation here.


    Richard 

    Real lockdown, the country is still under national lockdown, which means that only only food shops could open pretty much.


    Richard 

    Which means we and we still don't even though the numbers have come down. We still don't know when we're going to open. So we're waiting.


    Yifan 

    In the meantime, I think in Scotland, bookshops are open. Oh, really? Oh, you didn't know? Yeah. No, I was not aware. But I've not been keeping a close eye on Scotland. They just had more snow than us. That's That's all I know.


    Richard 

    So maybe, maybe you find you could just provide us with a brief description of the location and the space where the shop is.


    Yifan 

    Thanks, Richard. So if you listen to our very first episode, we did describe roughly the layout and the location of the shop. The shop is in an area called Hoxton in London. And it's next door to a Chinese supermarket.


    Yifan 

    The building is actually not one of those you see in their London Film. Like Notting Hill, it's more like a building you would see in a second tier City in, in China, I guess, but probably smaller, less.


    Richard 

    It's, it's a modern building.


    Yifan 

    Now you say it that way. It's a five storey, what 10 years old, 10 years old, five storey tall apartment block in a busy road. And so on the ground floor, you have what's called commercial units. So within this apartment block, there are two commercial units. One is a Chinese supermarket. And the other is going to be a half Chinese bookshop within our commercial unit Chinese bookshop.


    Unknown Speaker 

    Well, it's kind of like a Chinese British run bookshop. Within our unit,


    Unknown Speaker 

    we are sharing the book The shop space with a with an art gallery. So we only occupy one third of the space. And the art gallery occupies two thirds the space, but we share the same entrance.


    Unknown Speaker 

    If that makes sense.


    Unknown Speaker 

    There's just one entrance for both. So you have you enter the gallery to enter the bookshop. Yes, exactly. So when you enter if you turn left is the bookshop. If you turn right is the gallery ish. Maybe I should also say something about the floor of our the our half of the shop is about 15 to 20 square metres. And we have fairly high a fairly high ceiling so from floor to ceiling is about four there is Yeah, shall we say? four metres? three metres, at least three point something. Yeah, it's a pretty high ceiling. Yeah. So yeah, 3.5 metres. But the shape of the space is a triangle. It's one of those classic triangles as Rachel would say, you study in a trigonometry class. So the road runs along I would say p pata news I bought a news hypotony news. And then we have an along that side. Let me maybe just use Chinese to describe this. So the triangle is like a different like a ghost ankles, the shell Dominica, semiotic Chung, okay. So a hypotenuse is the shroud was a bit okay. And what chord adjacent is the Jericho sank was the neighbour and then the opposite side is the Was it the right the right angle sides are opposite the opposite the hypotenuse? Yes, this is great. This is like Pythagoras theorem, a squared plus b squared equals c squared. Exactly. So


    Unknown Speaker 

    Basically imagine hypotenuse is the seat is the? Yes. So imagine the voice is three, four and five metres long, which roughly it probably is it's slightly bigger than that. Yeah, yeah, that's the class. Yeah, Pythagoras. theorem try Yes. And the opposite side is the three, the adjacent side is the four. And the hypotenuse side is the five.


    Unknown Speaker 

    That a 10 out. Okay, so that's a space. And when you go into the shop, you go through the smallest acute angle, kind of, right? Again, it's a gap in the wall, never mind like a little, rather than in the middle of a side, it's on the side of a side, if that makes sense. Basically, as you go in, and maybe you want to explain that one in Chinese,


    Unknown Speaker 

    it's already very confused as you go into the shop. On your left, it's the hypotenuse. And it's got a window in the middle, and that's facing the busy road. And then on your right is the adjacent side, that's just like a wall that's dividing our bookshop and the shop next door. And then we have the opposite side, you have another wall.


    Unknown Speaker 

    That that's the layout. Is that essentially, it sounds like a lot of wolves to put put bookshelves on exactly. Basically this. There's one takeaway from all this. And what was your question? So he did the desert? Yeah, yeah. So essentially, what was what we went back, but essentially, the question was, who did the design planning? Okay. So there were two designs. So one, we consulted a friend in Beijing, who's a who's a interior designer. And he gave a, you know, very simple layout, which actually looks pretty much like much like what we got in the end, like what we got in the end. But what happened was, we also engaged a London designer, who's also a friend and practically worked for free on this. And I wouldn't say she designed the shop, she walked through, you know, with us the different options. And yeah, she guided us with design work, I would say helped us to choose colours and


    Unknown Speaker 

    etc. and sounds fine. Yeah. Yeah. And then should we name checker or name checker practice? Yeah. What is her practice called?


    Unknown Speaker 

    Gatti? Ruth Rhodes? Yes. I think they won some awards recently. Oh, yeah. That's right there. She had all sorts of Yeah, she had. She had an award. At the end of her email address, there was an award for some young architect. Yeah, yes, yeah, that sort of thing.


    Unknown Speaker 

    But I think they never did a bookshop project. And that's why she was very happy to work on this project for next to nothing fee. So that she would, you know, have this in her portfolio. Right to to,


    Unknown Speaker 

    to show off the


    Unknown Speaker 

    show for versatility. So as you walk into the bookshop, what you first notice is you are facing a massive three metre wide bookshelf. And that's kind of a wooden bookshelf, then you notice a round table.


    Unknown Speaker 

    And then you notice pendant seating light hanging above the round table.


    Unknown Speaker 

    And on two sides, you have these


    Unknown Speaker 

    hanging shelves, that's not standing on the floor, on the two sides. That's the main thing. And on the three wars, we have two tones. So on the


    Unknown Speaker 

    top one metre, about one metre, it's white, and then


    Unknown Speaker 

    from floor to up to say 2.2 metres is a very light grey. And we have positioned our bookshelves such that you have a top line, the grey line runs neatly on top of all the bookshelves.


    Unknown Speaker 

    And let's say above the above the bookshelves are white. Yes, the walls are white. Yeah.


    Unknown Speaker 

    Again, making something very simple, very confusing. It's what we're doing here. And we have two chairs as well. So all we have is 12345677 items. So three sharps, one table, two chairs and one light. That's it


    Unknown Speaker 

    right


    Unknown Speaker 

    This This was all furniture that the architectures I mean, the the most important things are the bookshelves. So the architects, we wanted to do this thing as cheaply as possible. And when I first that's the wish, and when I first Yes, imagine the bookshop, I thought we could spend 1000 pounds 2000 maximum on just getting a basic bookshop up and running. Right? So our architect told us the cheapest option would be to buy 10 IKEA Billy bookcases


    Unknown Speaker 

    and the Billy set and then just set them up like soldiers all over all around over all around covering up all the walls. Yeah, a BNC that will look ugly for sure. Because you have you can't choose the colour and then or the each individual bookshelf they will be slightly wobbly. They won't line out straight.


    Unknown Speaker 

    Yeah, they will be flush. So what happens is the architect proposed that a carpenter would what's called a box out so to build fake walls above the Billy bookcase. So it looks like we have the Billy bookcases are living inside the walls. Yeah, like building built in. Yeah. Built in bookcase. Yeah. And that boxing out alone is like 4000 pounds or something. Wow. Or maybe 2000 pounds. It's a lot of money. But anyway, it's about like a lot of money for what was basically air behind it. Yes. For a bit basically, you're actually shrinking the room. Right? You're building additional wars. Yeah, you're shrinking the room in a room that's not that big, you know, huge to start off. Exactly. And then we can build 10 Billy bookcases as we write, we actually tried this option and literally try this, didn't we? Yeah. So successful.


    Unknown Speaker 

    The architect I think they told us, you might want to buy one billet bookcase and then put it up, and then see if you like it really look like Yeah. And, and I think they realise that. Yeah, there's a good chance we won't like it. And we didn't. Right. Right. So they set us on the kind of you could try this. We don't think you're gonna like it, but you know, try anyway. Yeah. And, but they're different option is they would design like custom make bookshelves twice, which are going to be also very expensive. So that would have been more than the 4000 pounds to enclose the top of the bookcase for sure. That would be I would say twice as much. I did say in the beginning, I wanted a minimalist look. Just the focus should be the books and not the shelves. Right? That's true. And in the book shelving world there is a very famous, what's called a modular bookshelf. 606 universal shelving system. It's designed by Dieter Rams. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Dieter Rams is very famous. I would say he's the Jonathan Ive Yes, a knife took a load of inspiration of Yeah, like he's like Jonathan Ives God. Right. Okay. I didn't know that the calculator design an app is basically just copy and pasted from a Dieter Rams calculator design. Right? So for people who didn't know Dieter Rams was probably working in the 60s and 70s. And maybe late even later, German. He worked for German, a German company, brown brown. That still makes toothbrushes and kitchen staff and shaving razors, etc. But they did a great documentary. We could link


    Unknown Speaker 

    link about ram RAMs, Rams. I think it's just called Rams Rams. Yeah. Yeah, we could link in the notes. I don't know.


    Unknown Speaker 

    But do know that back then. To compare it to, to Jonathan Ive of apple. Brown. Made loads of electronic goods, right like they made Yeah. record players, speakers. Sure. Yeah. calculators alarm clocks, which back then? Probably high tech.


    Unknown Speaker 

    So yeah, yeah, they were like yeah, what you know what I noticed is brown is reviving a Dieter ram kind of ish design of speakers. And that's interesting because, yeah, because now I think the brown products they don't really look as interesting.


    Unknown Speaker 

    I nearly did. I think what years ago? Exactly. So they handed the the baton to I would say Mooji. And apple.


    Unknown Speaker 

    Hmm. And yeah, probably, but then then the Rams also does this v2 thing nowadays, that's his, that's his outfit. This is what sort of going back to the 606 shelf? Yes. Which is now sold by a company called v2. But then, you know, it's massively expensive, isn't it? I mean, we could buy a lot of books without money


    Unknown Speaker 

    to buy three to fit our bookshop with Fitz who would cost a Tesla basically


    Unknown Speaker 

    right a model three it's a cheaper Tesla Yeah.


    Unknown Speaker 

    Yeah. And but in the end, you know, we found cheaper options. Yeah. That you found these cheaper options or Yeah, I did. Yeah. And right because the architect really was was going to be too expensive designing his own shelves or Yeah, her own shelves. I found two separate things. I basically googled you know alternatives to Dieter Rams bookshelves.


    Unknown Speaker 

    Alternatives to Dieter Rams. bookshelves. Yeah. And exactly. And all the options are still too expensive. What happened was then I went to a furniture shop in London. that sells nice furniture. It's Conrad Conrad shop. And of course, yeah, yeah. Who who started the shop is Terrence Terrence Conlon who died last year, didn't he? He died not that long ago. Was he a designer himself? Or is he just a dealer? That's a good question. Anyway, I think but basically known as a as a as a furniture seller than a furniture maker. Yeah. So he sells a lot of minimalist furniture, let's say, from continental Europe. And so in his shop, I found this


    Unknown Speaker 

    what's called a crossing shelf by an Italian company and Milan Milan based company called kryptonite. Right? And it's super minimal. It's even more minimal than Dieter Rams, bookshelves and rave. And it's a lot cheaper. It's still expensive, but it's a lot cheaper. So then a 606. Yeah, so what happened was, if we were to buy crossing shops for all three wars,


    Unknown Speaker 

    that would be too expensive.


    Unknown Speaker 

    I so for the longest war. So this is why we've got two different sets of shelves in this bookshop, you know, yeah. you'd imagine you just have one kind of bookcase. Yeah.


    Unknown Speaker 

    So basically, as you walk into the bookshelf on the left and right hand side, you have this very minimalist shelf that's floating on the wall. And then right the shelf that's facing you, it's a floor standing. It's kind of like a billy bookshelf. But you know, it's a it's probably nicer looking. And that's a lot cheaper. And I thought it's better to have something that contrasts that looks totally different than, you know, to similar type of bookshops.


    Unknown Speaker 

    Okay, yeah. break some of the break some of the uniformity. Yes, exactly. So, so that's our bookshops. And I must say the the Niam the architects in it and ended up complimenting you and your choice of of bookcases, and in fact, also showed the design to a friend of mine who was an turns out to be an interior designer, and he was he was amazed at the look of these at least the first bookshelf. Yeah. That went in. So So that's, that's a bookshelf called telco it's a Polish company. And they advertised on Instagram. So Oh, maybe it's in Pinterest. Yeah, I think post is a great source once you you look for bookshelves and then you click on the pictures you use save some you like then they work out your taste and then advertise to you.


    Unknown Speaker 

    And


    Unknown Speaker 

    and these telco bookshelves, basically you can on their web website, you can say, you can completely customise how wide how tall, how many shelves you want, do you want doors, and then once you have the design, they tell you the price you pay, then they produce it and ship it to you. And everything is super simple to assemble. You just do it yourself. Yeah. So it's like really simple bespoke. Yeah. Okay, I would say on our bookshelf, still


    Unknown Speaker 

    cost over 4000 pounds. So it's still right. So we're double the original idea, right? Like the original 2000 pound idea was sort of double that. Yes. But we're not like, given what we just talked about, we could have been way beyond 4000 pounds. Yeah, at this stage. Yeah. I don't know I, because we're going to sell books. And we also want to be able to sell other items as well. Because the margins on books are quite thin. And so we don't want to limit our options. So we want the bookshop to look fancy, kind of fancy, not fancy to look tasteful. And so that we can sell other stuff as well. So I guess that's why we overspent a bit on ice shelves. Yeah. Right. Okay. I didn't want two people to walk in and think this shop, you know, is a budget shop, and they didn't feel like spending money.


    Unknown Speaker 

    Indeed, yeah. Yeah. That's,


    Unknown Speaker 

    that's


    Unknown Speaker 

    retail psychology here. Exactly.


    Unknown Speaker 

    Is that I mean, anything else you'd like to add to all the various bookshelves? Nope. What about you? Okay. Short, big? Because, I mean, beyond shelves, you there's there's a table in the middle of the space. And a future couple of chairs. Yeah. Now, is that is that just combined to form a, some sort of workstation? I mean, what's going on there? Yeah. Because you need to sit somewhere, right. You're going to work in the shop. And yeah, that's basically your your desk and your desk. And yeah, maybe you can talk about the two chairs. And, and then I write the table. Yeah, yes, a couple of couple of


    Unknown Speaker 

    couple of random chairs which were


    Unknown Speaker 

    provided on a long term loan from my father's company.


    Unknown Speaker 

    They seem to have a collection of chairs. And as a few years ago, they moved offices, they move to smaller offices, it means that they had to reduce their collection of chairs, they can add too many chairs for the new smaller premises. So I asked if we could you borrow a couple for our space because I thought they probably fit in quite nicely.


    Unknown Speaker 

    So out the the chair collection, we have a better, hairy better tire moulded shell side chair. Which one is that? Oh, that's the yellow one. Yeah. Yeah. With the polished Chrome Frame finish. And that's apparently 1960 design. Yeah. Harry bertoia. And then the, the turquoise one


    Unknown Speaker 

    is a Phillip stock, Dr. globe model, or Dr. glubb, isn't he? Which one's the turquoise one? I don't even remember that. Look, now. Is it turquoise green, you know, with amazing colours, but that I just somebody says because blue. The yellow one is so yellow. That's the only one I remember. Okay, so there's a blue chair. I see. And what's nice green was turquoise. I don't know it's green. Let's say it's green. It's probably green. It's probably too green to be turquoise. My mistake. And, and what he likes is Dr. glob, sorry, what legs? Does the grill? Yeah, what legs they have? It's got


    Unknown Speaker 

    aluminium. Okay, so the rear legs are aluminium. But the front legs are plastic. Are they so is this from the 80s 90s this is Yeah. 1988. Okay, I said she remember when my father got that one? Yeah, it's dead. Exciting. Yeah.


    Unknown Speaker 

    Anyway, so.


    Unknown Speaker 

    So, thank you. Thank you to thank you to them for the for the loan of the chairs. Yeah.


    Unknown Speaker 

    Which of course, means that now one can sit down.


    Unknown Speaker 

    But I would like to just add those two chairs are mighty uncomfortable to sit on. Really? Yes.


    Unknown Speaker 

    Gosh,


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    right.


    Unknown Speaker 

    We're gonna need to pad them out with something. I don't know. Yeah. But they look nice. Yeah, they look very, very nice. Yeah. But that's the thing though. These designers you know, they make chairs and then this kind of like, I don't know, I think I think most tears are not designed to be sat on you. No, no.


    Unknown Speaker 

    So


    Unknown Speaker 

    the law I mean, the last thing I was gonna ask you about it.


    Unknown Speaker 

    The space so the thing that sort of crowns the whole space is is the hanging light in the centre, which is a is quite the showpiece. Where did you find that event? So that I found in a


    Unknown Speaker 

    little it's kind of like, Is it like


    Unknown Speaker 

    a flying open book? Yes. Sort of half bird half book. Yeah. It's like a metal sculpture. It's quite, quite airy and light and hung from two pieces of very thin steel cables. from the ceiling. Yeah. So it looks like you have a book opening up. Yeah.


    Unknown Speaker 

    Where'd that come from? Just walking past a secondhand shop. In right, yeah, somewhere. I saw the thing before I knew we were going to have this bookshop, bookshop and I wanted yet light. And that light was very expensive. It's, I wrote it down somewhere. It's nearly 900 pounds. Right? So I thought, okay, that's out of the question that will be too extravagant.


    Unknown Speaker 

    But when we had, you know, have this project, then we then I thought, okay, so we need something interesting in the shop to make it instagrammable. I thought that's exactly what I thought, you know, this is the only thing I thought people might come in, even as they walk past us in the street. It might catch their attention. And do you think do you think they'll wonder if we got any of those things on sale?


    Unknown Speaker 

    Yeah, I'm sure. Like, if I saw it, I would ask. Yeah, yeah. And I did ask about, you know, the dealer, the secondhand furniture dealer, and he told me that this is probably to his knowledge, a unique piece. That was designed by a Swedish designer. I don't have the name for some clients in the 60s. Right, right. Right. Right. So we need to do a bit of research. Yeah, that that was his sales. Research. Yeah.


    Unknown Speaker 

    Okay. Well, we didn't talk about the table.


    Unknown Speaker 

    Yeah, what's happening with the table, it's the proudest achievement I have. So it's a it's a circular round table. And


    Unknown Speaker 

    again, it's from Instagram, there is a French company called tip toe, they make the technical term I think, is called f clamp, table legs. So a clamp is something


    Unknown Speaker 

    that holds or holds or grabs something. So these table legs is like a letter F. And then you can actually fit the F opening


    Unknown Speaker 

    to any tabletop that you may have yourself and then you can screw it tight. So in basically like a workman would use f clamps to clamp anything, but these ones are actually nice looking. And


    Unknown Speaker 

    so basically, they are universal table legs.


    Unknown Speaker 

    So you can order for circular table again, we can save on the cost. We only need three legs for a circular table, whereas if it's a they just go to the legs individually. Yeah, well, or three in Yeah, I ordered the legs from from tiptoe.


    Unknown Speaker 

    They were posted from France. They are they're actually Alright, the price it's about 55 pounds each so on


    Unknown Speaker 

    and, and we save on the tax as well. So it's actually less than 55 to us.


    Unknown Speaker 

    And then the table top the round circular disk top is from the cheapest shop in the UK called Argos. And that's like 100 pounds for a 1.2 metre wide circular table top. But that came in a wooden colour, like a natural key light or oak colour. And I painted it with the surplus floor paint we have the grey colour and the rack as it matches the floor. So our table and the floor is the same colour but that's the designer that's the architects idea.


    Unknown Speaker 

    Right? Yeah, they you executed it or I executed it terribly. I think you would call it I think you got the clamps. You got the actual piece of wood. Yeah. And then you painted it. I couldn't I painted three coats and I couldn't get it to look very smooth. So what happened was, in the end, I took a sandpaper and I sanded down the surface. So the table already


    Unknown Speaker 

    He looks kind of worn out a little bit worn out. And tired. You may not I mean, we just did. Yeah. Once we put lots of books on it. Yeah, you You Won't you won't notice he won't notice.


    Unknown Speaker 

    All right. Yeah, indeed. Yeah. That Yeah, I think we've covered it all. Pretty much. Yeah. Right. So that's the design.


    Unknown Speaker 

    Essentially it. Yeah. And some some good brands and quite good value for money. brands that, yeah, if you guys are interested to buy these products, you can take a look. I recommend them. Sure. Are we going to include some links? or? Yeah, we're gonna put put some links. Yeah, I look at I want to also add, you know, with those kryptonite crossing shelves that's floating. So you those shelves are screwed into the wall. So they are,


    Unknown Speaker 

    you know, like 20 screws.


    Unknown Speaker 

    And if you're going to put books on them, those walls were strengthened, especially. So a builder have put a 20 Cm perhaps plywood against what their reward was there originally, and then painted the whole thing. So we have an extra wooden layer for the so the nails can have some. What would you call it a bite to catch? Oh, I see. Yeah, thing. I don't know. depth. It's depth. Yeah. So you can actually go in there and then take the weight.


    Unknown Speaker 

    Okay. Yeah. Yeah, because Yeah, exactly. Yeah. We don't want any collapse in bookshelves.


    Unknown Speaker 

    Nope, not at all. Yeah. most embarrassing.


    Unknown Speaker 

    The shop now it looks beautiful. Because it has no books and no customers. So it looks very clean.


    Unknown Speaker 

    No browsers. Yeah.


    Unknown Speaker 

    Yeah, hopefully it won't. It won't continue to be like that. But at this rate, who knows? Given that we're, yeah, we're still very much in lockdown. Yeah. So have you have you have a word? An interesting English word for for this audience reading English word. Goodness gracious. Sure. Yeah, I have a word. So I was thinking as it's Chinese New Year, and you will all be receiving some money


    Unknown Speaker 

    with all my late look at you know, another word for money, perhaps something that could be considered slang, you know, not, not what we'd say Queen's English.


    Unknown Speaker 

    And the hundreds of the plenty of different terms for money, but one of them we thought would be interesting is quid.


    Unknown Speaker 

    Especially as in lungu. Qu ID to EU ID in London. You know, people be just to, you know, to say, rather than, say two pounds might say it's two quid, three quid or whatever. 500 quid, there's no, really? Yeah, until you get into probably lots of zeros. Or you might even say that, you know, still say a million quid. Yes. Interestingly, you might say a million quid. But if you're 10,000, you wouldn't say 10,000 quid you'd be saying 10 grand. So there's a bit where sort of, you know, you might say in the hundreds, you're still on quid, but then once you get to be on the 1000 you might be talking about grand. And then when you reach a million, you'd probably be back on a million quid. Okay, would you reckon? I mean, I don't know. I've never really heard anyone talk about 1000 you know, 100,000 quid, you're right. So when when we were in English class, we were told British money is pounds. And yeah, but when you come to England, nobody actually says this is three pounds. They would say three quid. Can you can you lend me five quid? So it's a good way to know.


    Unknown Speaker 

    And what Richard mentioned is


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    1000 quid is


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    a grant


    Unknown Speaker 

    right? So this time is one grand one grand, grand assuming 1000 Yeah, I think short 5000 is five grand. Yeah, so quit and grant the quit doesn't doesn't end in Chinese. Don't you talk about quiet. Yeah, we say quiet quiet. And creating brand that you don't put SS at the end. I know you don't say yeah, you don't talk say one quit two. Yeah. Two quids is just quit.


    Unknown Speaker 

    Well, yeah, yeah, whereas you might say one pound two pounds. Yeah.


    Unknown Speaker 

    But interesting. I think it's also interesting if you visit North America, they don't understand quid, but they do understand grand. They say grand as well. Yeah, they'll say grand. Yeah. Yeah, but they won't. Yeah, quid. Yeah, no, don't say bucks. bucks. Oh, exactly quit his back. Yeah, yes, but the JC one buck two bucks. Yes. Yeah, I see. Yeah, they pluraleyes it. Yeah. But I don't know whether they say a tenner and a fiver. Oh, five quid into a fiver thing that Yeah. But do they talk in like, you know, whatever it is. Hamilton's and


    Unknown Speaker 

    the 100 Franklin Franklin. Benjamin, even Benjamin? Oh, no, you should tell us about that word. What is up in Latin? What do you mean what is it been Loudon? You know, like, Benjamin Franklin is on the $100. Bill. Yeah, that's 100. So people say one Franklin or one Benjamin? I don't know. Yeah. In Europe, you have 500 euro note? Cat. Yeah. Yeah. Didn't you tell me that's called a binladin? I did I yes. Like as terrorists etc. A mass 500 euro notes? Yes. Rather than $100. Rather than Benjamin's. They'd rather have 500 euro notes. You don't remember this? Yeah, I might have known this and then forgotten about it. Yeah. Well, anyway, so I think that that's really interesting. It's a 500 pound or sorry, 500. euro note is a binladin. Okay, right. Okay. I see what you mean. So you got 500 has been logged in $100. Benjamin? Yeah. And then otherwise, we got one quit to quit. Yeah.


    Unknown Speaker 

    Yeah.


    Unknown Speaker 

    But just a tip. If you visit Europe don't bring any bin Laden's nobody accepts them.


    Unknown Speaker 

    It's Yeah, let's say you see any of them. Yeah, yeah, it's no it's in France. It's illegal now.


    Unknown Speaker 

    Really? Yeah. Wow. You don't remember last time I had up in London and I had to visit the Bank of France. Two weeks to break it up. Really? Oh, yeah. That rings a bell. Like Excuse me. I've got too many been lardons


    Unknown Speaker 

    Can you give me give me a few days something smaller. How about a couple of you know a few Benjamin's? Yeah.


    Unknown Speaker 

    Anyway, I'm not sure people say Benjamins. But. Well, thank you very much a joke about Benjamin's famous song. It's all about the Benjamins baby. Oh, I see. Okay, sorry. Yeah. Okay, that's true for you, as well. I mean, we, you know, we've gone off course from quid.


    Unknown Speaker 

    Alright. Okay. Let's call it tonight. Thank you, Richard. Hello. Thank you. Thank you. And thank you all. Let's talk next month. Okay. Ciao. Ciao.


    Unknown Speaker 

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