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  • Hello angels! We are so bloody excited for you to hear this one. On today's episode, we’re speaking to Florence Given, the British woman who became an internet sensation by encouraging women everywhere to dump their shitty boyfriends. Florence is an activist, an ally, and an author, with her first book, 'Women Don’t Owe You Pretty' (already a bestseller in the UK) out in Australia this week. We speak to Floss about breaking up with friends, her brilliant crumbs and the cake analogy for dating, masturbation and female pleasure, marriage and social conditioning, figuring out your sexuality and deconstructing the male gaze. We love her and (if you don’t already) we know you will too after listening to this. Enjoy <3

    You can follow Florence on Instagram here. You can follow us on Instagram: @afterworkdrinkspodcast, @grceoneill, @isabelletruman.

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  • Welcome to another jam packed episode. Up first, what the fuck is happening in Melbourne right now? A few TV and movie recommendations that you need to watch immediately plus, how Grace waited seven years to watch Hamilton only to realise it was problematic AF. Then, naturally, it’s over to Kanye West, who is keeping good on his word to move the Kardashian clan into the White House. Is Kanye West 2020 for real? Can he actually win? And if not, will his publicity stunt-style bid help Trump anyway? More importantly, how do we talk about celebrities who battle with their mental health? Then it’s over to the arrest of Jeffrey Epstein’s righthand woman, Ghislaine Maxwell. How do we make sense of women who do evil things? And is she really going to spill the tea? FINALLY, we discuss the drama surrounding the now-defunct Instagram account @Aussie_WOC. After initially making waves for their positive impact in pushing Australian fashion and beauty brands to #PullUp, the account suddenly closed among backlash about alleged comments made regarding Indigenous Australians. It proved how essential Indigenous voices are in any discussion around race in Australia, while also showcasing the need for a centralised, formalised organisation (à la the Black in Fashion Council) in Australia. As we watch brands and individuals flail as they try to address the issue of systemic racism, we discuss the importance of giving people space to fail, the reemergence of cancellation culture (didn’t we all agree that was a bad idea?) and the difficult task of trying to talk about nuanced topics on a medium like Instagram. 

    What to do about Melbourne: 

    E-mail or call Premier Daniel Andrews’ office:

    daniel.andrews@parliament.vic.gov.au

    (03) 9651 5000

    E-mail or call Richard Wynne, Minister for Planning

    richard.wynne@parliament.vic.gov.au

    (03) 9415 8901

    Donate:

    https://supportpublichousingresidents.raisely.com/

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    Recommendations: 

    Pose  

    Bombshell

    The Loudest Voice

    Queen & Slim

    Still Processing podcast - We Wouldn't Leave Kanye, But Should We?

     

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  • Hello angels! Welcome to another episode of After Work Drinks With… This week we’re so thrilled to be talking to activist and author Gina Martin. Gina is best known for single-handedly making upskirting illegal in the UK (!) Following a horrific encounter at a music festival, Gina was told by police that they couldn’t do anything to help her because what had happened to her wasn’t technically a crime. First she cried, then she took things into her own hands. She launched a national social media campaign, got a lawyer, took on the British government and, in 2019, she WON. Her story will 100% be made into a movie some day. We chat to Gina about internalised victim blaming, imposter syndrome, and the draining reality of being a young woman who takes up space on the internet. We bloody loved having this conversation and you will love it too.

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  • Hello fellow after work drinkers! This week we're fan-girling over Michaela Coel (again), investigating why Timmy Chalamet's bous tour of Cabo has enraged Twitter and lapping up Netflix's new documentary Disclosure, which gives an incredible history of trans representation on screen. Next it's a throwback topic: Kim Kardashian and women who promote unrealistic beauty standards to other women. Kim's 'corset selfie' rightly earned the ire of the internet, with Jameela Jamil claiming that the furore as a victory for the body positivity movement. Jameela also claimed that the Kardashians are simply brainwashed by the patriarchy and so shouldn't be personally blamed for her problematic actions - which calls into the question the age-old conundrum: How accountable are women when they choose to uphold patriarchal beauty standards? Then, we offer a touching eulogy to the #girlboss - a boring trope which appears to have died in 2020. As the young female founders who brandished the title are stepping down in disgrace, we investigate how the 'girlboss' was always corporate tokenism, giving women a false sense that gender equality had made its way into the world of business. Are women who run businesses in the same exploitative way men do really progress? And how do we unpack that discomfiting sense of glee when we seem to get whenever a female founder gets ousted? 

    Thanks for listening and, as always, rate, review and subscribe. We'll see you Saturday.

    If you are an emerging or aspiring BIPIC or LGBTQ+ writer, please e-mail your pitches to submissions@afterworkdrinks.net. Successful entrants will be partnered with an established Australian journalist to work on a story, and will be paid $200 per article.

    Recommendations:

    Chewing Gum (2015-2017) 

    I May Destroy You (2020)

    Disclosure (2020)

    People Are Trying To Cancel Timmy C For Getting Laid During The Yemen Crisis by Pedestrian TV

    https://www.pedestrian.tv/news/timothee-chalamet-cancelled-cabo/

    'The Girlboss Has Left The Building' in the Atlantic

    https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2020/06/girlbosses-what-comes-next/613519/ 

    The End of the Girlboss is here in Medium

    https://gen.medium.com/the-end-of-the-girlboss-is-nigh-4591dec34ed8

    Malcolm Gladwell's Revisionist History Episode 1

     

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  • Hello everyone and welcome back to another episode of After Work Drinks With. This week we are so excited to be talking to the incredible Madeleine Madden. Madeleine is an Australian actress known for her roles in Picnic At Hanging Rock, Dora and the Lost City of Gold and Mystery Road. But Maddy’s just as well known for her activism, something she’s been involved in publicly since age 13 when she became the first teenager to deliver an address to the nation as part of GenerationOne, an initiative to end indigenous disadvantage. As the great-granddaughter of Hetty Perkins and granddaughter of the most famous Aboriginal rights activist, Charles Perkins, Maddy’s passion for equality in Australia is second to none. We chat about the country's problem with racism, the lessons she learnt growing up in her family, why it’s so important to speak to each other about our different lived experiences, success and ambition and, surprise, surprise, RuPaul’s Drag Race.

    You can follow Maddy on Instagram here.

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  • Hi, hello! We kick things off on a really light note this week: with an existential crisis (seriously what is the point of life?) that started off as an off-air chat that we decided to hit record on. Then it’s onto Gen Z, who are they single-handedly saving democracy. Why are they so much cooler than us? And while we’re at it - why do we have a royal family in 2020? Is the monarchy the next casualty as we start tearing down outdated monuments? Plus, with Ansel Elgort the latest male celebrity to be accused of sexual assault, we dissect the troubling power dynamics when celebrities date their fans. Plus, if we all agree that it’s fundamentally creepy for grown men to date teenagers, why are we so cool with it socially? Do Drake and Leonardo DiCaprio get passes for their creepy behaviour simply because they’re hot? All this and more. Enjoy 🍸.

    You can follow us on Instagram: @afterworkdrinkspodcast, @grceoneill, @isabelletruman.

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    Shows:

    Chewing Gum

    I May Destroy You 

    Insecure

    Dear White People 

    Blackish 

    Girlfriends

    Still Processing Episode ‘MJ’

    Book: Inglorious Empire: What Britain Did In India by Shashi Tharoor

     

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  • Hello and welcome to another episode of AWD With... This week, we're joined by the powerhouse Char Ellesse. A British model and activist, Char is best known for her radical digital platform Girls Will Be Boys, which celebrates the full spectrum of gender identity through amazing short films. Vogue love her, Dazed love her, and so do we. We chat to Char about the liberation of baldness, internalised homophobia and dealing with an inbox inundated with guilty white women. Please enjoy, and - as always - rate, review and subscribe.

    You can follow Char on Instagram here.

    You can follow us on Instagram: @afterworkdrinkspodcast, @grceoneill, @isabelletruman.

     

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  • It's been a big week for Instagram apologies, resignations and cancellations. We look at the mass controversy surrounding The Wing - once dubbed the 'feminist Utopia' and now mired by a string of shocking staff abuse claims - many racially motivated. With the likes of Bon Appetit and Man Repeller among the media companies pulled into the fray, we ask whether or not white editors resignations actually help things (or is it just a cop out?) and what does a road to redemption look like? Plus, 15,000 people marched for Black Trans lives in Brooklyn - how are the feminist, BLM and LGTBQ+ movements failing our trans community? Don't forget to rate review, subscribe and share this ep! <3

    You can follow us on Instagram: @afterworkdrinkspodcast, @grceoneill, @isabelletruman, or join our closed Facebook group, After Work Drinks Podcast

    Recommendations:

    8:46 by Dave Chappelle

    The Peanut Butter Falcon (2019)

    FOSO: The Fear of Standing Out by Kat Rosenfield for Air Mail Weekly

    https://airmail.news/issues/2020-6-13/foso-fear-of-standing-out

    ALOK on I Weigh with Jameela Jamil

    Kitty Cash on 'After Work Drinks With...'

    @FlewTheCoup on Instagram

     

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  • This week, we' talking to the incredible Kitty Cash, a former top fashion PR in New York who traded in her day job to DJ full-time, going on to make music with the likes of SZA and Vic Mensa, work with Rihanna and tour the world with Chanel, Dior and Valentino. After touching on balancing secret Opening Ceremony DJ gigs during her lunch break and leaving the corporate world for the creative one, Kitty speaks so generously about growing up as a Black woman in America - from conversations she had with her mum as a child to being told by her career advisor that she’d never get the internship she wanted because of her skin colour. We discuss the part social media has played in the Black Lives Matter movement, her personal experiences with the US police force, the emotional and mental toll of the current climate and her hopes for what will happen moving forward. We hope you love this conversation as much as we loved having it.

    You can (and should) follow Kitty on Instagram here.

    You can follow us on Instagram: @afterworkdrinkspodcast, @grceoneill, @isabelletruman, or join our closed Facebook group, After Work Drinks Podcast

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  • JK Rowling's terribly timed Twitter rant about trans women has us all googling 'TERF' - what is a 'Trans Exclusionary Radical Feminist' and are they as awful as they sound (yes). What happens when your sentimental childhood heroes let you down? And how long can we excuse ignorance in our public figures? Then it's onto the police! Why is there now a mainstream movement to 'abolish' the police force? What does that mean and what does it look like? And why are we - two sceptics who, at first glance, wrote it off as 'ridiculous' totally on board with the move? Then it's onto Lea Michele, Reformation and brands and people that have been 'cancelled' after posting about #BLM. How rampant is this hypocrisy? And will things actually change longterm?

    Recommendations:

    Who Counts As A Woman by Carol Hay in the New York Times

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/01/opinion/trans-women-feminism.html 

    13th documentary on Netflix

    Unbelievable on Netflix

     

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  • The Black Lives Matter protests are still going in the US, prompting marches and tributes everywhere from NZ to London. In such a pivotal time for the movement we discuss whether posting on Instagram is helpful, why we shouldn’t be focusing all our energy on looting, how to actively engage in anti-racism and why it’s so important that we don’t think of this as just an American issue. Then, we move onto the ‘cancellation’ of fashion brand Sporty & Rich - the tides turned as fast as founder Emily Oberg’s ‘Health = Wealth’ T-shirts flew off the shelves during a global pandemic. Is the backlash over Oberg’s comments about wealth really the problem? What part do we have to play in the promotion and success of brands? And why do we keep putting young, untrained women on a pedestal - then knock them off when they inevitably fail? And, let’s be honest, wasn’t it ALWAYS tone deaf to wear ‘Sporty & Rich’ shirts in a global pandemic?

     

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  • Hello and welcome to another instalment of After Work Drinks With… This week we’re talking to comedian and general legend Mary Beth Barone. Mary Beth is one of the most exciting comedians in New York right now, dubbed by Time Out as one of the 30 women ‘making New York cool again’. Her comedy show, Drag His Ass, became a sensation - dubbed as a program for recovering fuckboy addicts - and her ability to capture the ridiculous, hilarious and often soul-destroying aspects of modern dating is so on-point that Paper have appointed her their new dating columnist. We chat to Mary Beth about everything from the psychological scars of ‘ghosting’ culture to navigating the terrifying world of stand-up to her experience with female fuckboys. Grab a wine and listen now.

     

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  • Last week we talked about white fragility and white feminism, this week we're seeing it in action all over again. Queen of the Sad Girls™️ Lana Del Rey landed herself in hot water this week with her strange and ill-advised Instagram PSA, suggesting there is no 'room for people who like her' in the culture. What is she talking about! And how does race a play a role? Plus, how Scarlett Curtis' raw honesty is opening up the conversation about depression, a new rom-com to sink your teeth into, and a break-down of The Times' big deep dive into Prince Harry and Meghan Markle's escape to LA. Where will they live? Who are they hanging out with? Why are they so obsessed with Soho House? Listen now and, as always, rate, review and subscribe.

    Recommendations:

    The Lovebirds on Netflix

    Scarlett Curtis on the iWeigh podcast

    Once Upon a Time in Hollywood by Katie Nicholl in The Times

    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/the-great-escape-prince-harry-and-meghans-new-life-in-la-ck7nvnndz

    'lana del rey, doja cat and antiblackness' on the Bobo and Flex Podcast

    https://soundcloud.com/boboandflex/lanadelrey 

    Laura Snapes on Lana Del Rey in The Guardian

    https://www.buzzfeednews.com/amphtml/aishamirza/until-white-women-ruined-it

     

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  • It's our second episode of After Work Drinks With and we are so very excited to be chatting to Jessica Barden. Starting as an actress in her early teens, Jess nabbed roles alongside the most formidable names in British acting, including Saoirse Ronan, Carey Mulligan and Olivia Colman. But it was her critically acclaimed role as Alyssa in Netflix’s mega-hit The End of the F*cking World (incidentally one of AWD's favourite TV shows of the last few years) that made her a household name. Now, she's taking on Hollywood, with a whole bunch of major new films in the works. We caught up with Jess from her garden in LA, discussing everything from quarantining with your partner to how therapy is helping her manage anxiety, portraying trauma on screen, sexism and classism in the film industry and how it feels to get 2 million Instagram followers overnight. We loved making this episode and can't wait for you to hear it! Wine glasses at the ready. 

    You can follow Jess on Instagram here

    You can follow us on Instagram: @afterworkdrinkspodcast, @grceoneill, @isabelletruman, or join our closed Facebook group, After Work Drinks Podcast

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  • After Alison Roman apologised to Chrissy Teigen and Marie Kondo, we took to Instagram to praise Chrissy for her graceful response. But we showed a blind spot in the process - how quick the world is to downplay the racially charged comments of white women. After an amazing listener called us out, we got her on the phone to talk through this textbook case of white feminism in action - and it came not a moment too soon. As we - and the rest of the world - felt sick to our stomachs about the murder of Ahmaud Arbery, we had already decided to try and wade into the tricky, often uncomfortable topic of race. Why are white people so unwilling to acknowledge their own inherent biases? Why do we think that racism is 'someone else's' problem? And why do we always end up relying on people of colour to explain to us how to dismantle a system that we are responsible for creating? We tackle all these questions, with varying success, in this episode - we'd love to hear your feedback. 

    Thanks to Crystal Andrews for being a guest on this episode. Her first book, 'How To Win Every Argument', is available now. 

    Some things everyone can do: 

    - Change our consumer habits: look at how many books you own which were written by people of colour, who directed and stars in the movies you watch, the magazines you buy, the stories you’re engaging in - Look around us and notice when there’s no minority groups in the room

    - Analyse the power you have at work - do you have the power to hire new staff? Is your workplace diverse? If not, why not, and is there anything you have the power to do to change it?

    - Call out casual racism always

    - Read about our history and follow (and engage!) with people of colour and minority groups

    - Look for initiatives that relate to causes you're passionate about and dedicate resources, either money or your time.

    - Sign petitions and share the news. Shaun King is great to follow and always emails too when there’s something important going on with petitions you can sign and marches you can attend

    Reading/recs

    Me and White Supremacy Workbook by Layla F. Saad

    Why I'm No Longer Talking to White People About Race by Reni Eddo-Lodge

    About Race podcast with Reni Eddo-Lodge

    White Fragility by Robin DiAngelo

    http://tedxbend.com/presenters/rachel-elizabeth-cargle/

    How to Be an Antiracist by Ibram X. Kendi

    Jelani Cobb's stories for The New Yorker

    Gal-Dem 

    Bobo + Flex podcast 

    Roxanne Gay’s books/talks/work

    People to follow:

    @rachel.cargle 

    @mikaelaloach

    @laylafsaad 

    @munroebergdorf

    @ajabarber

    @israhirsi

    @theandrehenry

    @shaunking

    Other recs:

    Pose show

    Paris is Burning documentary

    WTF with Marc Maron Remembering Lynn Shelton 

    Richard Jewell movie

     

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  • Hello ducklings. Welcome to a brand new episode of After Work Drinks. The question we get asked the most from our listeners is about our jobs - and so this week we're dedicating our episode to our first love: magazines, and on that front, we're incredibly excited to be speaking to formidable editor Alexandra Shulman CBE. Alexandra is the longest-serving editor in the history of British Vogue, with a formidable career that spanned GQ, Tatler and Vogue. She is responsible for some of the most iconic fashion imagery from the last three decades and has nurtured some of the most exciting writing talent. As she celebrates the release of her new book, Clothes... And Other Things That Matter (out now!) - already a Sunday Times best-seller - she chats to us about working in magazines during the shiny heyday on the '80s, documenting the grunge movement of the '90s in the pages of Vogue, and what she thinks the future of print media will look like. We know you are going to love it.

    Recommendations: 

    Clothes... And Other Things That Matter by Alexandra Shulman 

    Our chat with Nesta Cooper! 

    Becoming (Netflilx)

    Jameela Jamil and Roxanne Gay on iWeigh

    Hunger by Roxanne Gay

    Everything You Know About Obesity Is Wrong in The Huffington Post

    https://highline.huffingtonpost.com/articles/en/everything-you-know-about-obesity-is-wrong/

    Beanie Feldstein - Please Stop Complimenting Me On My Body

    https://www.refinery29.com/en-us/2017/11/182816/beanie-feldstein-weight-loss-story

     

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  • Welcome to our brand spanking new series! Every second Saturday we’re bringing you an interview with someone we’ve handpicked because we (and by extension, you) would love to sit down and have a drink with them. First up? Actress and on-the-rise Hollywood darling Nesta Cooper. Following turns in the Netflix megaseries 'Travelers' and indie hits like 'The Edge of Seventeen', Nesta hit the big time with a starring role alongside Jason Momoa in Apple TV's first original series 'See'. Now, she's sitting alongside Florence Pugh on 'ones to watch' lists, courting the biggest names in fashion and starring alongside Owen Wilson and Salma Hayek in their upcoming movie. Nesta opens up about combating self-doubt in a competitive industry, managing loneliness, how a personal tragedy changed her relationship with success, and whether or not Hollywood has actually changed for women. We know you're going to love it - so pour yourself a glass, settle in and enjoy. 

    You can follow Nesta on Instagram here and watch ‘See’ on Apple TV here

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  • Hello everyone! It's a new week and we are feeling... anxious. Is anyone else having a strangely negative reaction to returning to the uncertain 'real world' after lockdown? Life in a society is scary! And we're trying to help you work through your post-lockdown fears, with a little (a lot of) help from Izzy's therapist. Plus, Cazzie David's great essay on egomania in lockdown, a mind-blowing interview that changed the way we understand our periods, and how Kaia Gerber's ridiculous quarantine reading list is taking 'aspirational reading' to the extreme.

    Recommendations:

    Oprah Super Soul Conversations Podcast with Brene Brown and Eckhart Tolle

    The On Being Podcast

    The Body Keeps the Score: Brain, Mind, and Body in the Healing of Trauma by Bessel van der Kolk

    How to Be Single (2016)

    Sense and Sensibility (1995)

    'Egomania' by Cazzie David for Air Mail Weekly

    Cazzie David's YouTube Channel

    I Weigh with Jameela Jamil and Aisling Bea

    This Way Up (2019)

    Table Manners with Aisling Bea

    Period Power: Harness Your Hormones and Get Your Cycle Working For You by Maisie Hill

     

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  • Welcome iso babies to the fourth and final episode of AWD Dinner Parties. Up this week, Gab Waller, the celebrity personal shopper who's to thank for most of Rosie Huntington-Whiteley's enviable wardrobe; Melissa Mason, the editor whose hilarious PEDESTRIAN.TV stories are constantly going viral; and Ava Matthews, the founder of our cult 'skinscreen' brand, Ultra Violette. Discussions include but are not limited to: dating by Zoom in isolation, being fucked-up by romantic comedies, getting The Ick, credit card shaming, the 'shredding for the wedding' myth, starting a business, how personal shopping is thriving in lockdown and the problem with 'Normal People'.

    Recommendations:

    Ozark

    Hilbilly Elegy by JD Vance

    How To Be Single (2016)

    Girls,

    The Sculp Society 

     

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  • 'Hello everyone!' This week we are naturally knees deep in Normal People - the adaptation of Sally Rooney's 10/10 novel that has us all swooning and missing being horny teenagers. Money and class are huge themes in the series, which sent us into a rabbit hole about money, shame and how the size of our bank accounts are playing a determining factor in how stressful we find this pandemic. Then it's on to all things Arbonne. A viral article has us obsessed with the phenomenon of cult-like MLM beauty brands. What is an MLM? What is a fizz stick? What's up with *those* white Mercedes-Benz? We asked Liam Sharma on the pod to explain everything. Please enjoy, rate, review, subscribe, tell your mum, follow us on Instagram. You know the drill.

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    Recommendations:

    Normal People 

    Little Fires Everywhere

    Insecure 

    Motherwell by Deborah Orr 

    Pocket app 

    The High Low 

    Bobo and Flex podcast 

    White Mercedes-Benz, VSCO filters & cooked concerts. We need to talk about Arbonne by Liam Sharma in Sauce Mag

    https://www.saucemag.co.nz/beauty/arbonne

    Betting on Zero (Netflix)

     

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