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  • Jim Leiterman, Atari Research Group

    Jim Leiterman worked at Atari from April 1982 through March 1984 in the research group, under Alan Kay. His various projects included software for Project Puffer, an exercise bike peripheral for the Atari 800; an 8-player Hammurabi game; and an unreleased port of the game Warlords.

    He created a symbolic disassembler, which he used to port the game Kangaroo from Atari 5200 to the Atari 800. That version of Kangaroo was released by Atari Program Exchange, in the fall 1983 catalog. Prior to Atari, Jim was a programmer at Horizon Simulations, where he worked on Shadow Hawk One, "a futuristic game of spacefaring piracy."

    This interview took place on July 12, 2021. Be sure to check out Jim's web site where he has posted some photos of the hardware and software that we discussed.

    This interview at YouTube

    Jim's Atari page

    Jim's games at AtariMania

    "Atari nearly introduced the world to fitness gaming 30 years ago" in Washington Post

    AtariProtos on Tumbleweeds

    Horizons Simulations article in Softline Magazine Issue 1.4 Atari concept art sketchbook
  • Brenda Laurel, Atari Research

    Dr. Brenda Laurel worked at Atari from 1980 through 1984. She began as software specialist for educational applications then soon became manager of software strategy for the home computer division. In mid-1982, she joined Atari Corporate Research at the Sunnyvale research laboratory, where she worked with Alan Kay.

    After Atari, she worked at Activision as director of software development. Later she founded Purple Moon, a software company focused on creating games for young girls; and co-founded Telepresence Research, a company focused on first-person media and virtual reality.

    This interview took place on July 15, 2021. Check the show notes for links to articles she wrote for Atari Connection magazine; her doctoral dissertation, "Toward the Design of a Computer-Based Interactive Fantasy System"; scans of memos on the subject of interactive fantasy that she wrote while at Atari Research; and more.

    Brenda's web site


    Brenda's dissertation — Toward the Design of a Computer-Based Interactive Fantasy System

    Brenda's Atari memos

    The Renaissance Kid article by Brenda Laurel in Atari Connection Volume 1 Number 1

    Atari PILOT with Turtle Graphics article by Brenda Laurel in Atari Connection Volume 1 Number 4

    Valley of Genius podcast episode 11: Brenda Laurel at Atari 50 Years of Text Games — 1994: The Playground

    Brenda Laurel on games for girls

    Broad Band: The Untold Story of the Women Who Made the Internet This interview at YouTube
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  • ANTIC Episode 79 - Basically MyTek and Nir

    In this episode of ANTIC The Atari 8-Bit Computer Podcast… we discuss all the great work that MyTek is doing with Atari hardware (including the 576NUC), Nir Dary surprises all of the hosts with (late/early) Christmas (or birthday) Atari gifts, and Randy gets unmercifully teased about his overuse of the word “basically”.

    READY!

    Recurring Links

    Floppy Days Podcast

    AtariArchives.org

    AtariMagazines.com

    Kevin’s Book “Terrible Nerd”

    New Atari books scans at archive.org

    ANTIC feedback at AtariAge

    Atari interview discussion thread on AtariAge

    Interview index: here

    ANTIC Facebook Page

    AHCS

    Eaten By a Grue

    Next Without For

    What We’ve Been Up To

    Magic Dump! - http://atariprojects.org/2019/02/12/dump-your-atari-computer-screen-to-printer-or-disk-10-15-mins/ CircuitScribe - https://circuitscribe.com/ Monkey Wrench II - http://www.atarimania.com/utility-atari-400-800-xl-xe-monkey-wrench-ii_17608.html

    News

    MyTek’s 576NUC+ and internal FujiNet!! - https://thebrewingacademy.com/collections/myteks-576nuc-atari-computer/products/myteks-576nuc-and-internal-fujinet Latest Atari Projects by Jason Moore - http://atariprojects.org/ Upgrade an Atari 400 to Composite Video with the Super Color CPU Card (1-2 hours) Read Creative Computing Magazine (30-60 mins) Read the Book “The Creative Atari” (30-60 mins) Upgrade an Atari 400 to 48K of RAM (1-2 hours) Update the Firmware of Your Ultimate 1MB Upgrade for Atari 8-Bit Computers (5-10 mins) Watch Curt Vendel’s Exhibit Presentation at VCF-East (30 mins) Purchase or Download the Atari 8-Bit Programming Reference Book “Mapping the Atari” (5-10 mins) Purchase the Book “Art of Atari” (5-10 mins) - Tim Lapetino Purchase and Install a 64K RAM Upgrade for an Indus GT Floppy Drive (30-60 mins) Run the CP/M Operating System on Your Atari 8-Bit Computer using an Upgraded Indus GT Floppy Drive (30-60 mins) Vice article about Best Electronics - https://www.vice.com/en/article/7kvkx9/dont-piss-off-bradley-the-parts-seller-keeping-atari-machines-alive Randy’s interview with Brad (interview #5 from 2014!) - https://ataripodcast.libsyn.com/antic-interview-5-the-atari-8-bit-podcast-brad-koda-of-best-electronics Brewing Academy stocks Lotharek items - https://twitter.com/BrewingAcademy/status/1383459449692516352?s=20 ABBUC site status - http://abbuc.de Online version of Atari emulator for web browsers: “Good Enough Atari Emulator" is the project of Mariusz "emrk" Kryński (Poland) Article - https://www.atariteca.net.pe/2021/06/version-en-linea-de-emulador-atari-para.html Try it at - https://mrk.sed.pl/bevy-atari/dev/#osrom%3D%3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fatarionline.pl%2Futils%2F9.%2520ROM-y%2FSystemy%2520operacyjne%2FAtari%2520OS%2520v2%252083.10.05.rom XEP80-II a new beginning - MyTek - https://atariage.com/forums/topic/322186-xep80-ii-a-new-beginning/ SUPDUP terminal emulator Code and discussion - https://github.com/PDP-10/its/pull/2034 More discussion - https://twitter.com/larsbrinkhoff/status/1404700557286203393?s=21

    Shows

    Upcoming Shows where you might see Atari computers (or Atari people): KansasFest July 23-24 https://www.kansasfest.org ; virtual event VCF West August 7 & 8, 2021: Vintage Computer Festival West , The Computer History Museum, Mountain View, CA VCFSE Aug 20-22 https://gameatl.com/vintage-computing-festival-southeast-8-0-at-sfge/ or http://southernfriedgameroomexpo.com/ , Atlanta, GA VCF Midwest Sep 11-12 http://vcfmw.org/announce , Elmhurst, IL (Chicago) Fujiama Sep. 12-19, Lengenfeld, Germany, http://fujiama.eu/ VCF East October 8, 9, 10, 2021: Vintage Computer Festival East , Wall, NJ Event page created by Chicago Classic Computing - http://chiclassiccomp.org/events.html?fbclid=IwAR3Fm5hf7PCQj0yXBxXvj9J8Mp8GDwD2w1bfD_qktpPOnNYNoQUmN_EpgB8 Event page created by Floppy Days - https://www.facebook.com/VintageComputerShows/ Event page on Vintage Is The New Old - https://vintageisthenewold.com/vintage-is-the-new-old-releases-new-events-calendar/

    YouTube videos this month

    Atari Dealer Demo by MS-DOS Friends - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psxSm9PeVgA New Games for Your Atari 8-bit (Part 20) - The New Retro Show - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWyiI5LNHSA Massive Atari Software Archive - TOSEC and the Internet Archive by The Atari Geek - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wl7FfLuYGTg Original Atari 800 POKEY Chiptune by Cobra Commander for ANTIC Podcast! - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2klUVHRWtyk

    New at Archive.org

    57 Atari Computer Enthusiasts newsletters 1982-1987 via Dale Lutz - https://archive.org/details/@savetz?query=atari+computer+enthusiasts+newsletter Allan Bushman - https://archive.org/details/@allan52?query=dal-ace Richwood Software's The Gladiator manual - https://archive.org/details/gladiator-the-richwood-software/mode/2up Bill Lange - Creative Computing Software Thorn EMI - https://archive.org/details/creative-computing-software-disk-jacket

    New at Github

    https://github.com/kenjennings/Atari-1nvader https://github.com/bhall408/atari800-touchpad-keyboard-controller https://github.com/GSoftwareDevelopment/SFX-Tracker https://github.com/pkali/feudal-economy https://github.com/dgreefhorst/fujinews

    Listener Feedback

    Bits & Bytes and the Academy on YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/user/bitsandbytestvo

    End of Show Music - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2klUVHRWtyk Original Atari 800 POKEY Chiptune by Cobra Commander

  • Bob Elfstrom, The Magic Room

    Interview and research by Kay Savetz.

    From 1982 through 1984, Atari ran summer computer camps at several locations around the United States. I covered the Atari camps extensively in a special episode in 2015. Now it's summer 2021, and we're going back to camp!

    That first year of the computer camps, in 1982, Atari commissioned a film about its summer camps, about the kids and teachers who were there, about the process of learning about computers, about kids challenging themselves, and about making friends at summer camp. Atari commissioned filmmaker Bob Elfstrom and his partner Lucy Hilmer to make the film. They shot the 26-minute film at the University of California, San Diego campus in 1982. It would be titled The Magic Room and was released the next year.

    There are many scenes in the computer lab: we see close-ups of kids concentrating, thinking about the logic of their programming projects. Their faces light up as they solve their problem. There’s an adorable scene with a robotic, computer controlled turtle running across the floor, racing an actual turtle. There's kids riding horses at magic hour, and singing by the campfire, and finally an epic pillow fight, with feathers flying everywhere in the dorm hallways. The end credits were made with an Atari 800, naturally.

    This interview is with the filmmaker, Bob Elfstrom. (Lucy Hilmer was unavailable for an interview.) Bob has a long list of film credits to his name. He is known for his work on Johnny Cash! The Man, His World, His Music (1969), and Mysteries of the Sea (1980) -- his IMDB page lists scores of credits.

    It's easy to watch The Magic Room (and you should!). It's available at YouTube and Internet Archive.

    My interview with Bob took place on June 17 and June 25, 2021.

    Watch The Magic Room

    The Magic Room Trailer

    The Magic Room Production Documents ANTIC Special Episode - Atari Summer Camp ANTIC Interview 412 - Linda (Gordon) Brownstein, Atari VP Special Projects Bob's site Bob in IMDB Lucy Hilmer's site Lucy in IMDB
    Magic Room credits:
    Robert Elfstrom Productions
    Executive Producer: Linda S. Gordon
    Executive Consultant: Lauren Dunbar
    Produced and Directed by: Robert Elfstrom and Lucy Hilmer
    Edited by: Michael Chandler
    Associate Producer: Gloria S. Borders
    Music by: Sasha Matson
    Written by: Lucy Hilmer and Michael Chandler
    Production Advisor: Richard Pugh
    Sound: Agamemnon Andrianos
    Additional Sound: Nelson Stoll
    Production Manager: Kathleen Andrianos
    Special Assistant Caroline Pugh
    Special Thanks: Raymond E. Kassar, Robert A. Kahn, Wayne Harvey, Ted M. Kahn
    Head computer instructor: Richard Pugh
    Instructor: Karen Okagaki
    Computer Campers: Maria Smith, Candace Shockley, Margaret Aiken, Enrique Rios, J. J. Kreideweiss, Vincent Cook, Jim Dillon, Leendert Mulder, Rick Crosby, Brent McDonald, Barry Champagne
  • Rick Trow, Computers: Expressway to Tomorrow

    This is the second interview episode about Computers: Expressway to Tomorrow.

    Computers: Expressway to Tomorrow was a school assembly, sponsored by Atari, that played at hundreds of middle schools and high schools throughout the United States in 1983 and 1984. In the previous interview episode, I interviewed one of the show's presenters and the filmmaker. In this episode, my interview with Rick Trow.

    Rick Trow was the president of Rick Trow Productions, the company that created the Computers: Expressway to Tomorrow show -- as well as more than 40 other school assemblies and other productions over the years. Mr. Trow wrote the script for the 40-minute show, which combined two synchronized films with a live actor to teach computer basics to young people.

    This interview took place on June 5, 2021.

    ANTIC Interview 417 - Computers: Expressway to Tomorrow

    The Career Game

    Rick Trow Productions Employee Newsletters 1983

    "Taking the Show on the Road" in Personal Computing September 1983

    Atari Brings Multimedia Computer Show To Schools in AtariAge v2n1
  • ANTIC Episode 78 - The Extremely Elderly Computer Geeks Club

    In this episode of ANTIC The Atari 8-Bit Computer Podcast… We discuss lots of new things you can do with your FujiNet, the differences in FujiNet versions, the Old Computer Geeks Club, and other recent Atari news...

    READY!

    Recurring Links

    Floppy Days Podcast

    AtariArchives.org

    AtariMagazines.com

    Kevin’s Book “Terrible Nerd”

    New Atari books scans at archive.org

    ANTIC feedback at AtariAge

    Atari interview discussion thread on AtariAge

    Interview index: here

    ANTIC Facebook Page

    AHCS

    Eaten By a Grue

    Next Without For

    What We’ve Been Up To

    Interesting conversation with Mike Albaugh - https://twitter.com/KaySavetz/status/1388206215356829696?s=20 2013 Mike Albaugh interview: https://archive.org/details/MikeAlbaughInterview Brian Manning - Academy on Computers tapes and newsletters https://archive.org/details/@savetz?query=academy+on+computers TIARA - The Internet Archive Research Assistant - https://github.com/savetz/tiara

    News

    FujiNet - Astronomy Pic of the Day (APOD) - http://www.newbreedsoftware.com/fujinet-apod/?fbclid=IwAR3gDo6hV8Sgx4fPgcfE-5s0n26Rpe7jD_3O8V-vbAVPbFx5yq2gEzBoLYc by Bill Kendrick Latest Atari Projects - http://atariprojects.org/ Purchase and Assemble a SpartaDOS X Cartridge (15-30 mins) Explore Demoscene Demos (15-30 mins) Explore ANALOG Computing Magazine (30-60 mins) Purchase a 3D Printed Case for your SIO2PC (10-15 mins) Michael Darland died - https://ataripodcast.libsyn.com/antic-interview-394-michael-darland-microperipheral-corporation-and-sofcast and John Skruch, Atarisoft: https://ataripodcast.libsyn.com/antic-interview-299-john-skruch-atarisoft https://www.facebook.com/john.skruch Personalized dust covers for the Atari XL series. - https://atariage.com/forums/topic/320047-personalized-dust-covers-for-the-atari-xl-series/ - nowy80 Dust covers for 1200XL users - https://atariage.com/forums/topic/318555-good-news-for-1200xl-lovers-new-dust-covers - "papa*nannysfunstuff" Kilobyte Magazine - Jason Worley - https://archive.org/details/@kilobyte_magazine Atari XE PCB Remake Pre-Order Thread - https://atariage.com/forums/topic/319881-atari-xe-remake-pre-order-thread/ Sokoban 2021 http://a8.fandal.cz/detail.php?files_id=8029 Old Computer Geeks Club (OCGC) - https://www.facebook.com/groups/atari8bitcomputers/permalink/3918610088176468/ - Monthly meeting

    Shows

    Upcoming Shows where you might see Atari computers (or Atari people): KansasFest July 23-24 https://www.kansasfest.org ; virtual event VCF West August 7 & 8, 2021: Vintage Computer Festival West , The Computer History Museum, Mountain View, CA VCFSE Aug 20-22 https://gameatl.com/vintage-computing-festival-southeast-8-0-at-sfge/ or http://southernfriedgameroomexpo.com/ , Atlanta, GA VCF Midwest Sep 11-12 http://vcfmw.org/announce , Elmhurst, IL (Chicago) Fujiama Sep. 12-19, Lengenfeld, Germany, http://fujiama.eu/ VCF East October 8, 9, 10, 2021: Vintage Computer Festival East , Wall, NJ Event page created by Chicago Classic Computing - http://chiclassiccomp.org/events.html?fbclid=IwAR3Fm5hf7PCQj0yXBxXvj9J8Mp8GDwD2w1bfD_qktpPOnNYNoQUmN_EpgB8 Event page created by Floppy Days - https://www.facebook.com/VintageComputerShows/ Event page on Vintage Is The New Old - https://vintageisthenewold.com/vintage-is-the-new-old-releases-new-events-calendar/

    YouTube videos this month

    Spectrum, Commodore, and Atari emulators for Android - IT Guy in Action - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rX9sj8OoK2Y&t=0s 3D rendering of 800, 810 drive, and Amdek monitor by EmuRetro - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCA5UshDfpY How I built my modern Atari XL computer by GeSpy Build Stuff - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fbeg5dx5CE Atari 800XL: Sophia 2 DVI video upgrade - by Mr. Lurch’s Things - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQyNmJtPrBQ&t=1s Dead Atari 800XL: Fix and Extreme Restoration by FlashJazzCat - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-IEetUJB1w Atari Fujinet inside a 1030 Modem by Doug Venner - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcmxCWUO2GE

    New at Archive.org

    The "Archives of CSS(tm)" can be found at https://archive.org/details/@cs_stuttgart by DjayBee (Joachim)
  • ANTIC Interview 417 - Computers: Expressway to Tomorrow

    Interviews and research by Kay Savetz

    Imagine this. It's 1983 or 1984. You're drudging through yet another day of middle school or high school. But today, there's a surprise, a break from the monotony. The teacher tells your class to put away their stuff and go to the gym, or the cafeteria, or the auditorium. Today, there will be an assembly.

    As you and your class -- and all the other classes -- get settled in the uncomfortable folding chairs, or the bleachers, or even the floor, you take in the scene: two large projection screens. Some speakers and audio equipment you haven't seen before. One of your peers is getting ready to run a spotlight. Then, this enthusiastic person -- older than you but really not by much -- explains why you're here. Today, at this assembly, you're going to learn about computers.

    The lights go down, the spotlight comes up on that energetic host, and you realize this is a different sort of school assembly than you've seen before. Two projectors come on, lighting those two big screens -- it's a synchronized wide-screen movie. The presenter -- that not-much-older-than-you person -- talks to the screens, interacting with the movie and talking to the audience too. It's kind of corny, but your peers seem interested so you keep watching.

    The show discusses the basics of computer operation, and how computers work differently than the human brain. There's a scene where the computers talk in voices like people. There's a section about robots, and a part where Suzanne Ciani shows how she makes music using computers. It touches on computer art, and the social implications of computers in the world.

    40 minutes later, the show is over, and it's back to class. You learned a few things about computers, and talk about the assembly with your friends at lunch. Maybe you'll ask your parents for a computer for your birthday.

    This scenario played out more or less exactly that way for more than a million middle school and high school students in 1983 and 1984. The assembly was called "Computers: Expressway to Tomorrow" and it was financed by Atari.

    According to a 1983 article in InfoWorld: "Atari has a fleet of ... people traveling around the country giving the Atari multimedia presentation 'Expressway to Tomorrow' to a minimum of 500 people per performance at high-school assemblies."

    (Full disclosure, the article claimed "Atari has a fleet of 700 people" putting on the show, but I can't believe that number is accurate. More likely the number was closer to 7.)

    The traveling show would visit 2,000 schools in 1983, and was booked a year in advance. With the required minimum attendance of 500 students per show, that's a million kids. More than a million kids saw this assembly. that year.

    The September 1983 issue of Personal Computing magazine said: "Since January 1983, nine separate touring units have crisscrossed the United States, presenting the show to nearly 1,400 public and private schools — a total of 1.2 million students to date. Touring begins again this September after the summer break, and will run through December 1984." In reality, I believe the show ended by mid-1984.

    According to that article: "The show is a lively one, with the host on stage for the entire presentation. Several film projectors are going at once, filling two huge screens with fast-moving shots. Music is constant throughout. The host is busy either talking to the audience or interacting with characters on screen. ...The program aims to give people [a] feeling of comfort about computing. The show focuses on the many applications of computers today, from storing recipes to teaching a language, to tutoring."

    What survives of this show today? Not much that I know about so far. We don't have the film or the script. Audio tapes were available to help the presenters learn their lines. Informational packets were produced for teachers to hand out after the assembly. So far, I haven't been able to find anyone who has any of those things. (If you do, contact me!) What I do have is two interviews: memories of that project by one of the performers who went from school to school running the assembly, and the filmmaker.

    Before we get to the interviews, I want to give some background about the business of producing school assemblies. It turns out that school assemblies are a big business. Computers: Expressway to Tomorrow was one of many shows put on by Rick Trow Productions of Willow Grove, Pennsylvania. These shows were often sponsored by corporations, designed to educate kids, but also to get them excited about whatever it was they wanted to promote: taking pictures with Kodak cameras. Going skiing. Buying new music.

    According to an article in the Boston Globe from 1972 -- this is 11 years before the Atari show, but some of the few hard stats I could find -- Rick Trow Productions staged 7,000 assemblies in 1971, maintained 23 touring companies offering 16 different shows to schools. They put on educational assemblies that promoted products and services from companies that wanted to reach the "youth market" -- CBS Radio, Air France, Eastman Kodak, and others. Its multimedia productions also included titles such as "The Black Experience", "Environment: Challenge to Action", and "The History of Rock and Roll". At the time, according to the article, the company charged a school just $80 per assembly. But by the time of the Atari show in 1983, the company seemed to have changed its business model to offer the shows to schools for free; earning their money entirely from the companies whose products its shows promoted. The companies got access to an audience of young people who might become eager to buy their product (or to ask their parents to get it.) The schools got free access to (hopefully) an educationally worthwhile presentation that would broaden their students' horizons.

    A classified advertisement by Rick Trow Productions seeking presenters stated that in the early 1980s, presenters could expect to receive a salary of $100 per week during rehearsal period, and $500 per week for salary and expenses while on tour.

    My first interview is with Veronica Wiseman, who was one of the presenters who traveled from school to school putting on the Atari show. Her name at the time was Ronnie Anastasio. Veronica did three "tours" of Expressway to Tomorrow, from January 1983 through April 1984.

    (interview)

    Next, my interview with Dr. Chuck Sterin, the filmmaker.

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    The interview with Veronica Wiseman took place on October 23, 2020. The interview with Chuck Sterin took place on June 5, 2020.

    Thanks to Chuck Sterin and Veronica Wiseman, and to Tom Bregatta, Bob Barto, and Frank Darby, who were also presenters who provided background information for this episode.

    If you remember seeing Computers: Expressway to Tomorrow at a school assembly, I'd love to hear your recollections. If you happen to have any of the materials, such as the script, practice tapes, or the film, please contact me.

    Check the show notes for links to magazine articles about the show, as well as scans of material that Veronica Wiseman saved, including Rick Trow Productions employee newsletters, a large collection of thank-you and feedback letters from many schools where she presented, and her photographs from that time.

    Veronica Wiseman's collection of letters from schools

    Rick Trow Productions Employee Newsletters 1983

    Veronica's photo album

    New Educational Film Show Charts Future Computer Careers for Students in Atari Connection v3n1

    Atari Brings Multimedia Computer Show To Schools in AtariAge v2n1

    Spring CUE Conference article in Infoworld v5n4

    "Taking the Show on the Road" in Personal Computing September 1983
  • Bob Evans, Capital Children's Museum administrator

    This is the fourth in our series of interviews about the Atari computers at the Capital Children's Museum.

    Bob Evans wore many hats at the museum: he was director of special exhibits, where he worked on the museum's exhibit on the history of human communication, which used several computers, both public-facing and behind the scenes. He was administrator of Superboots, the museum's software publishing lab -- it published the computer art program PAINT! but no other software. Bob was administrator of The Future Center, the museum's public computer lab, and administrator of the museum's summer computer camp for disadvantaged youth.

    This interview took place on April 22, 2021.

    ANTIC Interview 391 - Tracy Frey, Atari Birthday Girl ANTIC Interview 410 - Ann Lewin-Benham, Director of Capital Children's Museum

    ANTIC Interview 415 - Peter Hirshberg, CCM computer center director

  • Peter Hirshberg, Capital Children's Museum

    Peter Hirshberg was curator of the communications wing of the Capital Children's Museum in the early 1980s, where he helped build The Future Center, the computer lab outfitted with Atari 800 computers; and museum exhibits, some of which were computer controlled.

    This interview took place on April 12, 2021. In it, we discuss Ann Lewin-Benham, director of the museum; and Guy Nouri, from the Superboots lab, both of whom I previously interviewed.

    Compu-tots and Other Joys of Museum Life by Peter Hirshberg, Instructional Innovator, Sept 1981

    ANTIC Interview 410 - Ann Lewin-Benham, Director of Capital Children's Museum

    ANTIC Interview 407 - Guy Nouri, Interactive Picture Systems
    Finding Home Computer Uses, NY Times article by Andrew Pollack

    Gray Area art and technology center

    This interview on YouTube

  • Bob Puff, Computer Software Services

    Bob Puff is owner of Computer Software Services, a company that began creating hardware and software for the Atari 8-bit computers in 1982. Bob became president of the company in 1991. He designed a bevy of hardware products for the Atari computers, including The Black Box, a hard drive host adapter; The Multiplexer, a networking system; the UltraSpeed Plus operating system upgrade; upgrades for the XF551 floppy drive; the Super-E Burner EPROM burner; and others. He also created a number of popular utility programs, including the BobTerm terminal program; Disk Communicator, to convert boot disks to a single compressed file for transfer over modem; and MYDOS version 4.53; among other software.

    This interview took place on April 27, 2021.

    Computer Software Services legacy site

    1993 Computer Software Services catalog scan

    ANTIC Interview 393 - Charles Marslett, MYDOS and FastChip

  • Valerie (Atkinson) Manfull, Atari Game Research Group

    Valerie Atkinson was a member of Atari's Game Research Group. Now named Valerie Manfull, she was on the team that designed and programmed the game Excalibur, along with Chris Crawford and Larry Summers. Excalibur was published by Atari Program Exchange in fall 1983. She is also one of the programmes of Ballsong, along with Douglas Crockford. Ballsong is a music and graphics demo program released by Atari, in which a ball bounces on the screen in response to an improvised tune. She was one of the programmers, with Ann Marion, of TV Fishtank, a demonstration of an artificially intelligent fish. (It's unclear if the fishtank program was released anywhere, though it apparently was shown at the 1984 SIGgraph conference.)

    This interview took place on April 22, 2021.

    ANTIC Episode 4 - Chris Crawford

    ANTIC Interview 240 - Douglas Crockford

    TV Fishtank at SIGgraph

    Jim Leiterman describes TV Fishtank

    Chris Crawford describes the development of Excalibur in The Art of Computer Game Design

    Excalibur announced in Atari Program Exchange, fall 1983

    Excalibur review in Atari Connection

    Excalibur at AtariMania

    Video of Ballsong

  • ANTIC Episode 77 - Jason Moore, PhD

    In this episode of ANTIC The Atari 8-Bit Computer Podcast… Jason Moore joins us to discuss his atariprojects.org Web site and we discuss all the news rocking the Atari 8-bit world...

    READY!

    Recurring Links

    Floppy Days Podcast

    AtariArchives.org

    AtariMagazines.com

    Kevin’s Book “Terrible Nerd”

    New Atari books scans at archive.org

    ANTIC feedback at AtariAge

    Atari interview discussion thread on AtariAge

    Interview index: here

    ANTIC Facebook Page

    AHCS

    Eaten By a Grue

    Next Without For

    What We’ve Been Up To

    Ed Fries source code, mac/65 tokenized: https://github.com/savetz/edfries-seachase https://github.com/savetz/edfries-anteater https://github.com/savetz/edfries-frog https://github.com/savetz/edfries-nitro https://github.com/savetz/edfries-chess (Xuel got it working at https://atariage.com/forums/topic/318961-assembly-source-code-for-5-programs-by-ed-fries/?do=findComment&comment=4799922 Prentice Associates Classroom Computer News and Apple II source code disks. Classroom computer news - https://archive.org/search.php?query=creator%3A%22Intentional+Educations%22&sort=-publicdate

    News

    FrogFind! http://frogfind.com/ - The Search Engine for Vintage Computers AtariAge thread on FrogFind! - https://atariage.com/forums/topic/319514-new-websites-for-your-old-computers/ Atari Projects - Jason Moore does it again! - http://atariprojects.org/ US based Amiga store, AmigaOnTheLake, has branched out into wider retro territory and now includes multiple Atari 8-bit items - http://amigaonthelake.com/atari-8-bit/ ABBUC (Atari Bit Byter User Club) Website is down until further notice due to a hackers attack - https://vintageisthenewold.com/abbuc-atari-bit-byter-user-club-website-is-down-until-further-notice-due-to-a-hackers-attack/ 10-line BASIC contest results https://gkanold.wixsite.com/homeputerium/results-2021 Table of entries https://twitter.com/romwer/status/1378364035607977984?s=20 ABBUC 2021 Software Contest - https://atariage.com/forums/topic/319869-abbuc-software-contest-2021/ 8-Bit Dungeon which is being created with the 8-Bit Unity platform has a tech demo out - https://www.atariteca.net.pe/2021/04/descarga-demo-jugable-de-8bit-dungeon.html TCL language - https://atariage.com/forums/topic/269553-test-computer-language-version-22-from-d-firth/?tab=comments#comment-4807575 ABBUC magazine #144 - https://atariage.com/forums/topic/319736-abbuc-magazine-144/ Bill Kendrick transcribed 1982 Byte magazine article Advanced Star Raiders Tactics and Strategies - http://www.sonic.net/~nbs/star-raiders/advanced-star-raiders-tactics-and-strategies.html Issue 32 of Atari User Magazine is available - https://www.atariteca.net.pe/2021/04/atari-y-c64-se-enfrentan-en-nuevo.html

    Shows

    Upcoming Shows where you might see Atari computers (or Atari people): KansasFest July 23-24 https://www.kansasfest.org ; virtual event VCF West August 7 & 8, 2021: Vintage Computer Festival West VCFSE Aug 20-22 https://gameatl.com/vintage-computing-festival-southeast-8-0-at-sfge/ or http://southernfriedgameroomexpo.com/ , Atlanta, GA VCF Midwest Sep 11-12 http://vcfmw.org/announce , Chicago area VCF East October 8, 9, 10, 2021: Vintage Computer Festival East , Wall, NJ Event page created by Chicago Classic Computing - http://chiclassiccomp.org/events.html?fbclid=IwAR3Fm5hf7PCQj0yXBxXvj9J8Mp8GDwD2w1bfD_qktpPOnNYNoQUmN_EpgB8 Event page created by Floppy Days - https://www.facebook.com/VintageComputerShows/ Event page on Vintage Is The New Old - https://vintageisthenewold.com/vintage-is-the-new-old-releases-new-events-calendar/

    YouTube videos this month

    CROSS HORDE =+ ATARI 800 XL += NEW GAME 2021 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcc4TtB1e9U - Atari 8 Bits For Ever MOON CRESTA !!! ATARI 800 XL - VBXE - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVmH7_1hFGA&t=42s - Atari 8 Bits For Ever Atari 800XL Music - "Return of Atarians" - On Real Hardware (( IN STEREO )) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jHQaT1Ei28 - Paul Westphal Retropie 4.6 Atari 5200 Tutorial - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTZCK5EX5AA - Ace1000ks1975 Atari 800 - NOS Keyboard and Reassembly - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6K-JRvFzci8 - ShadowTron Blog

    New at Archive.org

    https://archive.org/details/zongmagazine Atari Playing David To The Giants - https://archive.org/details/atari-playing-david-to-the-giants GRASSHOPPER — A Low-Level Language for Use on the MOS 6502 Microcomputer - https://archive.org/details/grasshopper-6502
  • Linda Brownstein, Atari VP Special Projects

    As I've researched Atari and it's 8-bit computer projects over the years, one name has come up over and over again, attached to the most interesting projects. Linda S. Gordon. Executive Director of Atari Computer Camps. Linda. Executive Producer of The Magic Room, Atari's movie about its camps. Atari's collaboration with Club Med to offer computer labs at vacation destinations — Linda again. Atari Club, the fan group that published Atari Age magazine - Linda launched that. More recently, in my interview with Ann Lewin-Benham of the Capital Children's Museum, Linda's name came up once again -- she was the liaison between Atari and the museum. Linda worked on the most interesting projects.

    Today, her name is Linda Brownstein. Linda joined Atari in December 1980 as Vice President of Special Projects, where she worked on most of the projects that I mentioned before. In October 1983 she became Senior Vice President in Atari's Education group. She left the company in July 1984 after Jack Tramiel took over the company.

    This interview took place on April 21, 2021.

    ANTIC Interview 78 - Manny Gerard, The Man Who Fired Nolan

    ANTIC Special Episode - Atari Summer Camp

    ANTIC Interview 410 - Ann Lewin-Benham, Capital Children's Museum

    ANTIC Interview 185 - Ted Kahn

    Atari Computer Camps — The Magic Room

    Video version of this interview

  • Mark Simonson, Atari Artist and Font Designer

    Mark Simonson used his Atari computers who create art that was published in magazines in the 1980s, including a portrait of Nolan Bushnell that was commissioned by TWA Ambassador, an inflight magazine; a colorful street scene for the cover of Minnesota Monthly, the magazine of Minnesota Public Radio; and a juggler for the cover of Credit Union Advantage magazine, among others.

    Professionally, Mark is a font designer. He created Atari Classic, a free TrueType font family for modern computers that looks like the Atari 8-bit screen font. Today, you'll see Atari Classic used in many Atari emulators, web sites, the WUDSN IDE, and elsewhere.

    This interview took place on April 15, 2021.

    Mark's Atari reminisce blog post

    Mark's Mac/Atari Fusion site

    Mark's Nolan Bushnell portrait in Hi-Res Magazine Issue 1

    A wild Mark appears on AtariAge

    FujiNet

    This interview on YouTube

  • Ann Lewin-Benham, Director of Capital Children's Museum

    Ann Lewin-Benham was executive director of the Capital Children's Museum in Washington, D.C. The museum was home to the first public-access computer center in the nation’s capital, and indeed, one of the first in the United States. In 1981, Atari and Apple each donated dozens of computers to the museum. The exact number is unclear, but 30 is the number I've seen most often for Atari's contribution.

    The computer lab was called The Future Center. There, the museum offered computer literacy classes for people of all ages, from Compu-Tots for preschoolers, to programming classes for adults, there was even a computer literacy session for members of Congress. It also used the lab for birthday parties. (Last year, I interviewed a woman who had her 8th birthday party at the museum.) The museum used more of its computers in its exhibit on communication. It established a software development laboratory, called Superboots, in which developers created custom softare for the museum, and one product that was released commercially: the graphics program PAINT!

    In a 1982 article titled A Day At The Capital Children's Museum, Melanie Graves described the scene:

    "My twelve-year-old friend Sarah and I went to the museum to explore the computers. There are several dozen computers scattered throughout the building which are used for exhibits, classroom teaching and the development of educational software...

    A machine that calls itself "Wisecracker" is the noisest of the computers that beckon visitors to the Communication exhibit. "My-name- is-Wise-crack-er," it says in a monotone, "Come-type-to-me." This message repeats endlessly until someone types at the keyboard or turns off the computer. "Hello, how are you?" Sarah typed, and pressed the return key. "Hel-lo-how-are-you," the machine’s voice responded. Sarah typed for awhile longer and then proclaimed, "It sure is dumb, but its voice is kind of cute."

    The computer next to Wisecracker has a data base program that asked Sarah her name, where she came from, and other questions. It informed her that she was the thirty-seventh person from Virginia to type in data that day... "Fifty-five percent of the people who came here were girls," she told me. Next to the data base, a computer is set up with a music program. Sarah pressed some random keys, causing notes to sound. At the same time, the letter names of the notes appeared on the keys of a piano that was displayed on the screen.

    There is also a Teletext terminal that tells inquirers about weather predictions, and news releases, the latest acquisitions at the public library, local cultural events and whatever else has been entered into the data base for that day...

    After playing with Teletext, Sarah and I went to the Future Center, a room equipped with twenty Atari 800s. On weekdays, the classroom is available to school groups ranging from prekindergarten to high school. On weekends, families arrive for courses in programming. Classes have also been created for working people, senior citizens, community groups, congressional spouses and other special interest groups. This summer more than sixty students from the Washington, D.C. public schools attended one of two free month-long computer camps at the museum."

    This interview took place on April 2, 2021.

    Ann's web site

    Museum in Atari ConnectionVolume 1 Number 4

    A Day At The Capital Children's Museum

    Computers And Kids, article by Edith Holmes in ASIS Bulletin, June 1981 Compu-tots and other joys of museum life by Peter Hirshberg, Instructional Innovator, Sept 1981 Description of donation in "Atari in Action Atari Institute Newsletter" Fall 1982

    ANTIC Interview 391 - Tracy Frey, Atari Birthday Girl

    ANTIC Interview 407 - Guy Nouri, Interactive Picture Systems

    National Children's Museum
  • Ed Fries: Romox Ant Eater, Princess and Frog, Sea Chase

    Ed Fries programmed three games for the Atari 8-bit computers, which were published on cartridge by Romox: Sea Chase, Ant Eater, and Princess and Frog. His forth game for Romox, Nitro, was unfinished because the company went out of business before Ed was done coding it.

    Years later, Ed became vice president of game publishing at Microsoft where he oversaw the creation of the Xbox. In 2010, Ed released Halo 2600, a demake of the Halo video for the Atari 2600. In 2013, he coded an Atari 2600 version of Rally X.

    This interview took place on March 11, 2021.

    After the interview, Ed sent me the assembly language source code to five games, which he graciously released as open source. You'll find the code for Sea Chase, Ant Eater, Princess and Frog, the unreleased/finished game Nitro, and a chess game, at GitHub.

    AtariMania's list of Ed Fries' games

    2015 Atari Compendium Interview

    Ed's Blog

    Ed on Twitter

    This interview at Youtube

    ANTIC Interview 76 - Tim McGuinness, founder of Romox

    The Paper Computer Unfolded

    Sea Chase source code

    Ant Eater source code

    Princess and Frog source code

    Nitro source code

    Chess source code

  • ANTIC Episode 76 - The Bill Kendrick Show

    In this episode of ANTIC The Atari 8-Bit Computer Podcast… Bill Kendrick gets more mentions than when he’s on the show, Kay discovers he owns more Atari disk drives than the rest of the Atari community combined, and we discuss all the news rocking the Atari 8-bit world.

    READY!

    Recurring Links

    Floppy Days Podcast

    AtariArchives.org

    AtariMagazines.com

    Kevin’s Book “Terrible Nerd”

    New Atari books scans at archive.org

    ANTIC feedback at AtariAge

    Atari interview discussion thread on AtariAge

    Interview index: here

    ANTIC Facebook Page

    AHCS

    Eaten By a Grue

    Next Without For

    What We’ve Been Up To

    Worms? Source code archiving - https://github.com/savetz/worms Atari Speed Reading Receipts - https://archive.org/details/atari-speed-reading-receipts

    News

    800XL PCB remake: https://ezcontents.org/atari-800xl-pcb-soldering-and-troubleshooting https://ezcontents.org/atari-800xl-bill-materials-bom https://ezcontents.org/atari-800xl-pcb-remake ATasm, a command-line based 6502 cross-assembler that's compatible with OSS's 1982 "Mac/65" macroassembler: SourceForge page - https://sourceforge.net/projects/atasm/ The documentation - https://sourceforge.net/p/atasm/code/HEAD/tree/trunk/atasm.txt#l54 Atari Projects - Jason Moore does it again! - http://atariprojects.org/ Learn about Vertical Blank Interrupts in BASIC for Atari 8-Bit Computers (30-60 mins) Read “How Atari took on Apple in the 1980s home PC wars” by Benj Edwards (5-10 mins) Atari Flashback X with Atari Computer Games - https://www.atariteca.net.pe/2021/03/pack-con-mas-de-130-juegos-para-consola.html Paul Nicholls’ Coded Snippets Cookbook - 6502 edition - https://syntaxerrorsoftware.itch.io/code-snippets-cookbook-6502-edition Atari Giant - http://atarigiant.com/ - Web site store that caters to Atari 8-bit Pro(c) issue 15 - https://proc-atari.de/en/proc-atari-magazine/proc-atari-issue-15-softcover-book-edition USB Keyboard Interface available from Lotharek - https://lotharek.pl/productdetail.php?id=311 Belts for 1050 - https://console5.com/store/fabric-reinforced-belt-for-atari-1050-tandon-tm100-4p-floppy-drive.html Atari Compendium Website - Mostly 2600, with a smattering of computer - http://www.ataricompendium.com/game_library/controllers/controllers.html Gem Drop Deluxe - Bill Kendrick - http://www.newbreedsoftware.com/gemdrop_deluxe/

    Shows

    Upcoming Shows where you might see Atari computers (or Atari people): VCFSE August 20-22 http://southernfriedgameroomexpo.com/ KansasFest July 23-24 https://www.kansasfest.org ; virtual event PRGE - cancelled August 7 & 8, 2021: Vintage Computer Festival West 2021 (VCF West) October 8, 9, 10, 2021: Vintage Computer Festival East 2021 (VCF East) Event page created by Chicago Classic Computing - http://chiclassiccomp.org/events.html?fbclid=IwAR3Fm5hf7PCQj0yXBxXvj9J8Mp8GDwD2w1bfD_qktpPOnNYNoQUmN_EpgB8 Event page created by Floppy Days - https://www.facebook.com/VintageComputerShows/ Event page on Vintage Is The New Old - https://vintageisthenewold.com/vintage-is-the-new-old-releases-new-events-calendar/

    YouTube videos this month

    The real fight Atari versus Commodore - IT Guy in Action - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFhAX9gijXY Atari 800 - Part 2 - Replacing Electrolytic Capacitors - ShadowTron Blog - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-dgDZ4MJYM NEW IMPROVED VERSION EN Atari 8-bit emulator (Atari800 emulator) - IT Guy in Action - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uoONYg8Yehs Gem Drop Deluxe! (Atari 800) - ArcadeUSA (William Culver) - Programmed by Bill Kendrick - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SNvh88SiW4 Also Gem Drop Deluxe! video by Atari 8 Bits For Ever - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HBQOjnBKu8 Gem Drop Deluxe! blog by Bill Kendrick - http://newbreedsoftware.com/gemdrop_deluxe/?fbclid=IwAR3VrwTV4-XAVd-S1exD5EiDdMhy0CQtRZIWBH8oqkfGqTVUJzWva3aE94M Quarter Express - 256 bytes intro for Atari XL/XE by Ilmenit / Agenda - For Lovebyte party 2021, "Low-End 256 byte intro compo" - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UKnPHhKaFg Atari 800 XL Lite Rally Motorcycle racing game - The Modern Atari 8bit Computer (Nir Dary) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnG43ooEHtE

    New at Archive.org

    Pigeons at Internet Archive Scholar. Several researchers tested pigeons' perception and visual ability using Atari 800 computers. A dozen papers dated 1983-1993 - https://scholar.archive.org/search?q=%22atari+800%22+pigeons&sort_order=time_desc Atari HQ Archive #1 - https://archive.org/details/atari-hq-archive-1 Allan Bushman: Your First Atari Program by Rodnay Zaks https://archive.org/details/your-first-atari-program-rodnay-zaks Software Merchandising magazine, January, 1983 https://archive.org/details/software-merchandising-january-1983/ Current Notes magazines 1994-1995 https://archive.org/details/current-notes-volume-15-number-1-january-february-1995 Portland Atari Club newsletters 1994-1995 https://archive.org/details/portland-atari-club-january-1985 Adventure International's Airline manual https://archive.org/details/airline-adventure-international/page/n19/mode/2up

    Commercial

    Touch Me By Atari (Commercial, 1979) - https://archive.org/details/touch-me-by-atari-commercial-1979

    New at Github

    Atari 800 Soundbox https://github.com/zbyti/atari800-soundbox ATARI XE Replacement Keyboard https://github.com/gianlucarenzi/A130KB_MX XEGS-DS https://github.com/wavemotion-dave/XEGS-DS Also A5200DS https://github.com/wavemotion-dave/A5200DS Atari800-Display-Lists https://github.com/pedromagician/Atari800-Display-Lists Atari 1090XL expansion box remake https://github.com/kenames99/1090 Atari800-benchmarks https://github.com/pedromagician/Atari800-benchmarks Micview https://github.com/tschak909/micview Turbo Decoder https://github.com/baktragh/turbodecoder MidiJoy https://github.com/fredlcore/MidiJoy USB_to_RS232 Connector https://github.com/pjones1063/USB_to_RS232#usb_to_rs232-connector-usbmodem

    Listener Feedback

    Vegas 1988 World of Atari show - https://archive.org/details/WorldOfAtariConventionLasVegas1998/

    Closing

    END OF SHOW MUSIC: Donnie Iris and the Cruisers - Do You Compute? (1983) - music video featuring an Atari 1200XL - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2Rjyu_4HzI
  • ANTIC Interview 408 - David Maynard, Electronic Arts Worms?

    David Maynard created the game/simulation "Worms?" Published by Electronic Arts in 1983, it was a launch title -- one of the five initial releases from the company. David, one of EA's first employees, wrote Worms? for the Atari 8-bit in FORTH. It was later ported to the Commodore 64.

    Worms is an interactive version of Paterson's Worms, a family of cellular automata devised in 1971 by Mike Paterson and John Conway. It is an unusual program, in which the player teaches wormlike creatures how to move on a hexagonal grid -- what direction to move in various situations. The worm's goal is to to grow and survive, and to capture more space on the grid than its competitors. Up to four worms could play simultaneously, with any combination of human- and computer-controlled worms.

    But the program's manual didn't tell you all that straight off. In fact, here's the first thing you saw after opening the package: "You will find detailed instructions enclosed. Do not read them. Instead, sit down and get started. Don't ask how. Just start. You know how these things work... Resist them. Do not read them for a very long time. In fact, do not read them until you know how the game works... Then never read the instructions. Innocence is bliss."

    David also collaborated on Cut & Paste, a word processor published by Electronic Arts in 1984.

    After our interview, David sent me a binder of Worms? development documentation and source code for Atari 8-bit and Commodore 64, all of which I have scanned and are available at Internet Archive and GitHub. The originals are going to the Strong Museum of Play, at David's request.

    This interview took place on March 4, 2021.

    Worms? source code for Atari 8-bit and Commodore 64

    Scans of printed Worms? source code

    Worms? Development Notes

    David's blog

    Worms? at AtariMania

    Michael Beeler's original Paterson's Worms paper

    Martin Gardner's article in Scientific American

    Darworms, Javascript version of Worms?

    Darworms instructions and explanation

    More Paterson's worm math

    EA We See Farther poster

    This interview at YouTube

  • Guy Nouri, Interactive Picture Systems

    Guy Nouri was co-founder of Interactive Picture Systems, a company that created software for 8-bit computers from 1982 through 1984. The company's first program was PAINT! for the Atari 8-bits, which was developed at the Superboots software development lab located at the Capital Children's Museum in Washington, D.C.. Its next program was Movie Maker, an animation program. Next came three educational titles for the Atari: Trains, a business simulation; Grandma's House, a sort of digital dollhouse; and Aerobics, a fitness program. The company also created Operation Frog, virtual dissection software for the Apple II and Commodore 64; and First Draft, an outline processor that helped kids plan their writing.

    This interview took place on March 7, 2021.

    PAINT! manual

    First Annual IPS Computer Film Show

    PAINT! in K-Power magazine

  • Atari at the Science Fair: Michael Fripp: Silent E

    An article was published in the Daily Press newspaper of Newport News, Virginia on February 13 1985, titled "Best in Show at Science Fair: Computer program helps young readers conquer the 'silent e' challenge'.

    Two years ago Michael Fripp wanted to make sure his younger brother didn't face a hard time learning how to deal with the "silent e" principle in reading lessons. Putting his own Atari computer to work, Michael developed a fun, educational computer program designed to teach then 6-year-old Daniel how to successfully pronounce words like "cap," "tub" and "man" when an "e" is added to each.

    "I remember the trouble I had with 'silent e' and didn't want him to have that trouble," says 13-year-old Michael, an eighth grader at Queens Lake Intermediate School. "There are lots of math but few English programs for computers. I hope to bridge that gap."

    Michael went on to expand the "silent e" program, complete with more detailed instruction and graphics, through his computer science class at school and entered it as an exhibit in the York County Science Fair. Michael's educational reading program — "Silent E: A Program for K-3" — was judged best in show.

    "We were pleased and surprised a computer program was picked because usually the judges pick pure science," says Carolyn Gaertner, who teaches math and computer science at the intermediate school.

    Michael's computer program involves a simple story outline about an earthling named Tim and his spaceship landing on the planet EOP which is ruled by the Silent E's. There, Tim learns how the Silent E's simply and quickly turn words such as "pan" into "pane" with the addition of their favorite letter...

    He has copyrighted the program and hopes to market it commercially. More than 100 hours of work have gone into the project...

    "Computers are like a fever; they grow on you," says the young man. "I try to do a lot of programming at home but homework really limits me."

    The large photograph accompanying the article shows young Michael, replete with calculator watch, in front of an Apple II computer, not an Atari.

    I talked with Dr. Fripp to hear all about his program.

    This interview took place on February 28, 2021.

    Intro song: Silent E by Tom Lehrer