Episodes
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FINE AF from the Bell House stage, Michelle and Jordan sound the air horn for the triumphant return of comedian, actor, and friend of ze pod, Liza Treyger! Jordan sheds light on Texan parlance and reclaims the origin of the cowboy with FACTS (welcome to his Tex Talk), Michelle serves a hilarious BTS moment from "Survival of the Thickest," proving tea is best spilt on a hot mic, and Liza opens up about letting go of old habits and relationships that don’t serve her while entering her ‘Thrive Era.'
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Live at the Bell House, Jordan and Michelle turn UP as they welcome ICONS of the highest order, Afro-Electro-Disco-Space-Punks, The Illustrious Blacks! Michelle prompts a discussion on 'Yo Mama' jokes and the genre’s forgotten (aka cringe) pop culture moments, Jordan arrives to the chat with an Adulting question for Michelle who serves a WIN-WIN solution, and Manchildblack and Monstahblack graciously share the origin story of their 20+ year creative / romantic collab! Let the bass drop!!
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This week Michelle and Jordan are honored to be in conversation with costume designer, co-founder / co-conspirator of Black Trans Liberation, and Adulting kindred spirit, Qween Jean. Jordan “No Regrets Carlos” tells the tale of younger Jordan capturing the attention of a Hollywood bombshell, beyond college parties and her first taste of Alize, Michelle shares why Miami will always be in her heart, and through memories of childhood and the writings of James Baldwin, Qween Jean discusses the journey to living her truth—so you can live yours!
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It’s an Adulting Homecoming at the Bell House when Jordan and Michelle bring it in with four-time Grammy-winning rapper / NYT best-selling author / co-founder of The Roots (THAT PART!), Tariq “Black Thought” Trotter. Jordan walks back in time to the fateful night he met his man crush in a bar (DENZEL!!!), in the midst of mistaken identity Michelle exemplifies going high with humor and class while seated in economy, and Tariq arrives, "Irk List" in hand, 1.) to hilariously go off on the surprising things that yuk his yum (shoelaces???), and 2.) to sound off on any and all things adulting including navigating jealousy in oneself and others.
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Live from Brooklyn’s Bell House, Michelle and Jordan welcome Ted Lasso writer, actor, and podcast host of Conversations with People Who Hate Me, Dylan Marron. Jordan reflects on his adulting journey from BC (before Costco) to his present 40s form (doomsday pantry as the new stunting and flossing), Michelle shows her earliest receipts for preparedness when she details her intense, age 5 morning routine, and Dylan, married for 8 years now(!!!), explains why productive fights are essential to maintaining a healthy relationship.
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This week, Michelle and Jordan welcome a bucket list guest to the Bell House stage—the icon, the symbol, the legend, Grammy-awarded singer-songwriter, Norah Jones [AIRHORN!!!]. Jordan shares a harrowing story that sparks a family debate over the diff between a pet and a pest, Michelle recounts the dramatic transformation of her eccentric roommates cat from white to pink fur—an NYC tale (or is it tail?) as old as time, and Norah speaks candidly about developing intuition as an artist, powering through stage mishaps, and one hilarious meet-cute.
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Live at the Bell House BK, Jordan and Michelle welcome internet sensation and host of the super viral "Recess Therapy," Julian Shapiro-Barnum (hold for applause!). Michelle’s toddler turns the tables when he R-E-A-D-S her during bedtime stories, Jordan perfectly times his edible kicking in to deliver his thesis on country music’s BLACK origins (FACTS Y’ALL - BIG FACTS!), and fresh from a break up with serial monogamy itself, Julian opens the floor for questions--he’s an open kids book, y’all!!
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Live from Brooklyn, Michelle and Jordan bow down to Black Hollywood Royalty, mother / daughter ICONS of the stage / screen, Jillian Hervey of "Lion Babe" and THE Vanessa Williams. Jordan delivers a convincing reason for NOT working with male trainers (i.e., unconfirmed whereabouts on Jan. 6), Michelle tells a cautionary tale for the front row seats at her future shows (the moral of the story—know your dosage!), Jillian shares how motherhood banished her inner critic and led to new heights as an artist, and Vanessa looks back on the powerful and the hilarious moments from her career—not to mention that long lost cassette of Prince demos (you gotta hear this!!!).
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Sound ALL the air horns!!! Jordan + Michelle are back and LIVE AF at Brooklyn’s Bell House, and this week they welcome to the stage actor / comedian / friend of the pod, Sydnee Washington. Michelle receives a full-on flower shower when she arrives fresh with not one but SEVEN NAACP nominations, Jordan shares hilarious / unsettling moments from a recent trip to Charleston (it was giving "Get Out," but those shrimp and grits tho!), and Sydnee revisits her twenties (literally last week!) to pluck a few gems of wisdom and realness.
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Michelle and Jordan hit ALL the corners this week with author, activist, journalist, and media strategist, Raquel Willis. All is illuminated when Jordan (literal adult) reveals an early childhood hero, Michelle discusses the nuances of making requests of the service industry (it hits a little different at home!), and Raquel shares what it’s like to date as a visible and accomplished Black transgender woman (so many sweaty stans and chasers!!).
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This week, Jordan and Michelle bring out their bedazzled tambourines for triple threat (actor, director, producer!!!), Tasha Smith! Michelle arrives fresh from the billing panic room after waking up to no internet (autopay has entered the chat), Jordan comforts Michelle by singing his sonorous house cleaning spiritual, and Tasha shares why acknowledging all she's overcome motivates her to create JOY and LOVE—watch your step, she's dropping bars!
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Michelle and Jordan head to Holland to get personal and just a little “private” when they are joined by Dutch singer / songwriter / artist without borders / baker of exquisite breads / friend, Nicole Bus! Jordan is inadvertently unmasked as a Karaoke King while giving Michelle her flowers for hosting yet another epic house party, Michelle advises a listener to check their wants and needs before honoring unfamiliar requests in the bedroom (read: butt stuff), and in sharing her inspired writing process, Nicole walks us through her life as an artist in Amsterdam.
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It’s a family affair this week as Jordan and Michelle warmly welcome esteemed executive producer / pizza machine / showrunner for "Survival of the Thickest," Danielle Sanchez-Witzel. Jordan passionately reviews parenting scenes from a Berkshires restaurant (are they ok?!), Michelle emphasizes that caretaking skills are not exclusive to parenting, and though showrunning can easily run your life, Danielle courageously pushes back with vulnerability.
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This week, Michelle and Jordan bring it in with writer, actor, OG podcast host, a BOSS / also THEIR BOSS, Georgia Hardstark! While bonding over “vintage” grandma names, Jordan transports Michelle and Georgia to the fifth dimension when he chimes in from his own family tree with names that could ONLY come from the Mississippi Delta, Michelle’s twin toddlers test her anti-goop parenting style when “F” bombs are dropped and feelings are hurt (compassion, joy, and structure FTW, y’all!), and in the everlasting debate of shoes on / off households, Georgia weighs in, as one does when they have a WikiFeet!
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Jordan and Michelle serve up Adulting BTS when they pull back the curtain for writer / actor / comedian / Buckeye / international field hockey phenom, Beth Stelling. Michelle's fond memories spur an introduction to pickleball (or is it tickleball?!), new research suggests life expectancy in America has shifted—Jordan shares the good news (men are down 6 years!), and Beth (real talk) reveals what it took to film her comedy special PLUS lessons learned since!
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Michelle and Jordan take Black the night with comedian / actress / organ donor to the stars / selective history buff, and good friend, Sasheer Zamata. Jordan's kids have started doing an impression of him (which has daddy putting his phone away), Sasheer shares what makes New Orleans her go-to destination to refresh (Voodoo), and Michelle prompts a moment of reflection when she asks, what WON'T you do for money? (Bad answers only, y'all!)
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This week Jordan and Michelle are joined by FOP (friend of the pod) comedian / actor / auth-uh / podcast host / beloved surrogate sibling, the multi-talented Dan Ahdoot. Dan’s arrival prompts Jordan to shed his middle-child identity and lean into his other side (big brother feat. therapist cosplay), Dan shares his thoughts on radical honesty vs. finessed white lies (hear him out!!!), and Michelle takes a deep breath and asks: What is my toxic trait? The answer, tho!!!!
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This week, Michelle and Jordan welcome author / afro-futurist / pleasure activist / potentially Jordan's long-lost cuz, adrienne maree brown. Jordan gets into the 10 going on 49 of it all (his daughter's current Wednesday Addams phase), Michelle goes back to the origin of her party-host-super-powers, and adrienne shares tips for safely seeking sexual pleasure in group settings. BYO-Astroglide!
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This week, Adulting is giving heavy seen, felt, AND heard energy when Jordan and Michelle welcome comedy / acting / writing triple threat, Ms. Pat. Jordan accepts affirmations after courageously sharing his childhood journey from outie to innie, Michelle gives a refresher on karaoke night etiquette, and real talk—Ms. Pat speaks on what 31 years of marriage teaches and takes (honesty and therapists!!).
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Adulting levels up in the game of self-care / self-compash aka self-compassion when Jordan and Michelle invite comedian / actress / poet / foot MASS-age aficionado, champion of drawing hot baths, and friend of the pod, Catherine Cohen. Michelle walks us through the layers of grief that follow being fired…by her toddler son, Jordan unlocks secrets of the glove compartment and melts Michelle’s reality, and Catherine explains how to extend southern hospitality as guest rather than host—bet you didn’t know she’s also a Texan!
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