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Breaking The Line, the ECNL Podcast, went live and in-person at the ECNL Coaching Symposium at the Circa Resort in Las Vegas, NV for a historic podcast featuring some of the biggest names in soccer and leadership. ECNL President Christian Lavers and ECNL Vice President Doug Bracken sat down with former North Carolina Head Coach, USWNT Head Coach, and Hall of Famer Anson Dorrance, former Manchester United and Chelsea CEO Peter Kenyon, founder of Winning Leader Jeremy Boone and high-performance psychologist and retired US Navy Commander Eric Potterat.
Together, the group held a riveting roundtable discussion surrounding how to build winners and leaders. Can leadership be taught, or is it something people are born with? What can you do to foster leadership? How does winning and leadership go hand-in-hand? All these questions and more are answered on one of the most riveting episodes of Breaking The Line ever.
Learn more about each panel guest below.
Anson Dorrance: Former UNC Head Women’s Soccer Coach & USWNT Head Coach
Anson Dorrance is considered by many to be the most influential person in the history of American women’s soccer, and one of the most influential leaders in women’s soccer globally. As the head women’s soccer coach at the University of North Carolina, Dorrance won 22 NCAA National Championships and his program was rated as one of the most successful dynasties of the 20th Century. He is a seven-time NCAA Women’s Coach of the Year, was elected to the National Soccer Hall of Fame in 2008, and received the US Soccer Federation Werner Fricker Builder Award in 2016.
Peter Kenyon: Former CEO Manchester United and Chelsea
Peter Kenyon is a distinguished football executive celebrated for his transformative leadership at two of England's biggest clubs, Manchester United and Chelsea FC. At Manchester United, Kenyon expanded the club's commercial reach, solidifying it as one of the world's most profitable football brands. Later, as CEO of Chelsea, he oversaw the club's dramatic rise under Roman Abramovich, driving its global brand recognition and footballing success. Known for his strategic vision and negotiating expertise, Kenyon remains a pivotal figure in the sports industry.
Jeremy Boone: Winning Leader
Jeremy is an internationally recognized performance coach, best-selling author, published researcher, and the creator of Winning Leader™—a groundbreaking platform that accelerates influence, creates lasting impact, and helps leaders in sports and business accomplish their missions. He was named among the top 5 in the '50 Under 50' category for Entrepreneur of the Year by Disruptor Magazine, and has earned acclaim for his award-winning 2019 TEDx Talk, 'The Courage To Connect,' which has been incorporated into leadership curricula across Fortune 500 companies, professional sports teams, colleges, and high schools nationwide.
Eric Potterat: High Performance Psychologist, Retired US Navy Commander and Bestselling Author
Eric Potterat, Ph.D. is a high-performance psychologist, retired US Navy Commander and bestselling author. Eric served for 10 years as the psychologist for the US Navy SEALs, responsible for the mental assessment, selection, development, maintenance and enhancement programs for the Navy’s best warriors and highest performers. Eric is credited with developing and implementing the mental toughness curriculum for the U.S. Navy SEALs and was awarded the Legion of Merit medal upon his retirement from the Navy in 2016.
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The Breaking the Line crew is back with their newest episode, this time with a topic that came straight from a listener question.
A parent from Richmond, Va., asked Breaking the Line: "Is there an ideal blueprint for an ECNL club?" The question specifically cited the success of local club Richmond United, and to tackle this discussion, we went straight to the source.
In Episode 111, Jay Howell, Executive Director of Richmond United, joined Breaking the Line to discuss his origins in the youth soccer space and spearheading Richmond United since 2014 and how throughout the years, Richmond United has become a leader within the youth soccer space, culminating with a complete club rebrand launching at this podcast's release.
Howell and Breaking the Line discuss how clubs can build a structure that puts the players first, and how navigating a club structure can be difficult with multiple coaching philosophies and personalities, especially with multiple youth clubs joining forces.
They also discuss how to build and maintain relationships with professional organizations, and how youth clubs and pro clubs can work together to ensure all parties can see success on and off the field.
Finally, the crew works through what is a player pathway, how respective age groups and leagues fit into that pathway, and how putting the players first can lead to great moments across the club.
While there is no one right way to build a successful youth club, there are many factors that clubs can emulate and glean from this incredibly insightful discussion with one of the ECNL's top clubs.
Thank you to our fan who submitted Episode 111's topic, and as always, please submit questions to Breaking the Line here: https://ecnl.info/BTL-Questions. -
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The first Breaking the Line episode of 2025 features special guest Mike Cullina, CEO of US Club Soccer.
Cullina and the Breaking the Line crew open the episode with a topic on the forefront of everyone's minds: birth year regulations. The three provide an update to the discussion about what comes next for clubs and leagues regarding roster cutoff dates for birth year, why that decision was made, what does it mean for players and clubs and when will those changes be made.
That discussion evolves into a discussion into where US Club Soccer fits as a whole within the US soccer ecosystem, and why the American soccer ecosystem differs from other countries. The Breaking the Line team goes into how the US Soccer Federation was founded more than 100 years ago and how the organization operated in the past has led us to the decisions and conversations we're having today.
Finally, the group closes out the podcast recognizing the 20 ECNL alumni from 18 different clubs who were selected in the 2025 MLS SuperDraft on their incredible achievements. Congrats!
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The Breaking the Line team is back with their newest episode as we head into the holiday season and features a special guest, ECNL Boys Commissioner Jason Kutney.
Kutney and the crew open the episode with the inaugural ECNL Boys East Coast Super Cup, where eight teams from four East Coast conferences battled it out in Cary, NC to lift the Super Cup trophy. The team chats about how the Super Cup was formed, what the competition was like and the importance of winning, and also give a special shoutout to the champs, Florida Premier.
The ECNL Boys East Coast Super Cup ran along side the Men's College Cup, and the Breaking the Line team continue their discussion from last week regarding the pros and cons of the amount of international players within college soccer, and college soccer's place within the US' youth soccer developmental platforms. Does NCAA Soccer see itself as part of the developmental path for players? How do you balance winning vs. developing at the collegiate level? And how does NIL deals and the transfer portal affect how programs recruit and construct rosters? The BTL team tries to tackle these questions and more.
Also looking ahead, the lads look forward to the ECNL Coaching Symposium in Las Vegas in early February, discussing which speakers will be presenting at the symposium and who they are looking forward to the most.
Finally, with the new year on the horizon, this week's Bracken Buster features New Years Resolutions and what the whole team is looking forward to in 2025.
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It’s post-Thanksgiving and the Breaking the Line team are back for a brand-new episode on all things college soccer.
The NCAA Men’s and Women’s College Cups are in full swing and we dive into examining which teams are still alive chasing a trophy. On the women’s side, more than 80 ECNL alumni are competing across four teams, while eight teams made up of more than 35 alumni are alive on the men’s side.
The College Cup sparked an interesting discussion on Breaking the Line about how many international players compete for teams in men’s soccer compared to the women’s side. It’s a back and forth about how to balance providing opportunities to different athletes, development vs. winning and the role of collegiate soccer in the career paths of both coaches and players.
This discussion led to a listener-submitted question regarding how centerbacks can stand out to D1 recruits during games. The team provides their own insights on what good centerbacks do during games and how recruiting for a defender is different than an attacker. The BTL team also discusses how scouts look for different things even between centerbacks and outside backs.
Finally, a tease for the next episode of Breaking the Line. US Club Soccer announced changes to birth year restrictions in 2026, and the crew gives their initial thoughts while looking forward to Episode 109, which will feature a much more in-depth discussion with US Club Soccer and more.
But it's not all serious soccer talk! We lighten the mood with personal stories about Thanksgiving traditions, from unique turkey alternatives to beloved side dishes like mashed potatoes and sweet potato casserole. With gratitude to our listeners and the ECNL community, we invite you to share your thoughts and questions for future episodes. Tune in for a blend of sports insights, heartfelt holiday moments, and an engaging discussion that promises to keep you entertained and informed. -
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Unlock the secrets of the ECNL showcase season alongside Christian Lavers, Doug Bracken, and Ashley Willis as they dissect the perfect blend of timing and location that makes these events a recruiting hotspot. Discover why warm climates open doors for teams from colder areas, and learn how 80% of Division I recruits trace their roots back to this league. The hosts discuss the strategic planning behind competitive schedules and how aligning teams based on last season's standings elevates the level of play and scouting opportunities, all while tackling the real-world challenges of NIL and college athlete payment issues.
Navigate the nuanced world of youth soccer substitution rules, where the balance between player exposure and maintaining game fluidity is key. This episode unpacks how the ECNL adapts its substitution policies for showcases versus regular league play, offering insights into how these decisions impact player development and safety, particularly under extreme weather conditions. We also shine a light on the "Red Isn't Your Color" campaign, encouraging a culture of respect and sportsmanship to address the referee shortage caused by poor conduct in youth sports. -
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Join us for an eye-opening conversation with ECNL Technical Advisor Ceri Bowley as we uncover the shifting paradigms in youth soccer development. Ever wondered how playing younger athletes against older opponents could radically enhance their skills? Ceri shares innovative strategies from Europe that focus on individual growth over team success, challenging traditional norms. We also dissect the intricacies of coach education, exploring why individualized learning and real-world application are crucial for effective coach development. Ceri offers his insights into the essential role parents play in aligning expectations and supporting their children's athletic journey. We discuss how a "golden thread" in training can ensure consistent learning, drawing parallels between the soccer environments in the UK and the U.S.
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What if a single competition could redefine club soccer? Discover the groundbreaking Super Cup for boys' teams in ECNL, designed to challenge clubs across multiple age groups with its unique format and culminating premier event held in Raleigh, North Carolina. Explore how this innovative approach not only celebrates top-performing clubs but also provides the flexibility to form representative teams, creating an unparalleled experience in youth soccer. We also dive into the fascinating world of coach education, discussing the partnership with the Coach's Voice and what it means for the future of coaching in the ECNL community. Finally, join us as we tackle the often overlooked challenges of coaching education and the journey beyond licenses. From the financial hurdles faced by aspiring coaches in the U.S. to the importance of developing a personal coaching philosophy, we navigate the complexities of transitioning theoretical knowledge into practical application. Listen in to understand how coaches can teach players to think critically, and why continuous learning and adaptability are vital in coaching.
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What happens when young soccer players are encouraged to explore multiple positions versus specializing early? Our conversation sheds light on the importance of understanding a player's attributes and the role of the training environment in nurturing these talents. We explore how an early focus on specific skills can shape a player's progression and discuss the impact of transitioning from smaller-sided games to full 11v11 formats. The debate on whether versatility or specialization truly benefits a young athlete unfolds, revealing how coaches play a pivotal role in guiding and sculpting the potential of their players.
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Can social media really make or break a soccer career? Join us on this episode of Breaking the Line as we tackle this provocative question and much more. We kick off with a heated debate on school year versus birth year age requirements and how these can shape the trajectory of young players. Next, we venture into the digital realm, scrutinizing the role of social media in soccer recruiting. Our discussion then pivots to the validity and influence of recruiting services. Can they really help when budgets are tight, or do they merely serve the already privileged? We dissect the significance of being named to all-conference or all-American teams, reflecting on how these accolades impact recruitment. Don't miss this episode packed with insights, debates, and expert opinions that could redefine your perspective on youth soccer development.
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Discover the secrets to mastering youth soccer coaching from the champions themselves! Join us as we chat with four of the most respected ECNL National Championship coaches: Douda Kante from Kansas Rush, Chase Miller from South Carolina Surf, Mike Aubrey from GTFC Impact, and Kelin Briones from San Diego Surf. Get ready to learn how these experts balance the delicate act of providing playing time while keeping a sharp focus on winning. From Chase's insights on performance-based playtime to Douda's focus on development for younger players, this episode is brimming with valuable strategies. Managing player motivation and expectations can be a complex dance, and our guests share their wisdom on this critical topic. Hear their techniques for tackling tough conversations with both parents and players, and their innovative approaches to team dynamics, including changing formations and setting clear pre-game expectations.
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What if the future of college soccer was dramatically changing right before our eyes? On this episode of Breaking the Line, Christian Lavers, Doug Bracken, and Ashley Willis dissect the profound shifts stemming from the new NCAA settlement and the impending roster cap set to impact youth players by 2025. We scrutinize the potential upheaval of scholarship limits and what this means for all aspiring athletes.
We continue by examining the intricacies of the new NWSL Collective Bargaining Agreement, which promises to revolutionize the league with higher minimum salaries, a revamped salary cap, and groundbreaking revenue-sharing provisions. Discover how these changes are poised to influence youth development and recruitment, and their wider implications on the American sports landscape. -
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Ever wonder how a podcast can sustain its passion and energy over 100 episodes? Join us as we celebrate this remarkable milestone on Breaking the Line, the ECNL podcast. From navigating the challenges of the COVID-19 pandemic to highlighting the triumphs of ECNL alums in the US Women's National Team's recent Olympic gold win, this episode is a rich tapestry of soccer history and personal stories. Hosted by the ever-engaging Dean Linke, we journey through the legacy of legendary University of North Carolina coach Anson Dorrance and his lasting impact on the sport.
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Join us as we uncover the secrets behind the dominance of Southwest Conference clubs in the ECNL National and Regional League Championships. We bring you front-row tales of thrilling comebacks and the sheer joy of young players in moments of victory, capped by unforgettable Gatorade showers. Florida's soccer landscape is evolving, but how does it stack up against Southern California's talent hubs? We explore the critical differences in player development environments across the states.
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Join us in this special episode of Breaking the Line, where we sit down with soccer icon Charlie Stilitano. Charlie takes us on an unforgettable journey, sharing personal stories that highlight his innovative spirit—like pioneering the use of virtual imaging on the field. Don't miss this episode filled with rich memories and behind-the-scenes insights from one of soccer's most respected figures.
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What fuels the underdog spirit in youth soccer playoffs? We spotlight the inspiring performances of teams from regions that barely made it to the postseason but went on to perform remarkably well. The conversation sheds light on the evolution of soccer culture in the U.S., balancing academic commitments, and the role of supportive college coaches in nurturing young talent.
From the impressive upward trajectories of youth players joining professional teams to the integration of winning into youth development, this episode covers it all. We emphasize the critical role of creating competitive yet enjoyable training experiences, aiming to foster both a love for the game and the essential understanding of winning and losing. Don’t miss out on this deep dive into the ever-growing culture of youth soccer! -
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Prepare to unlock the secrets of soccer success and navigate the path to college recruitment like a pro! Ever wondered about the intricacies of recruiting in youth soccer? Our discussion is set to shed light on this complex arena, underscoring the differences between boys' and girls' recruiting landscapes and the critical role of balanced competition. Gain practical advice on choosing the right college fit and maintaining a healthy perspective on recruitment. Learn about the importance of genuine passion for the game and how long-term dedication can lead to sustained success. Whether you're a young athlete or a supportive parent, this episode is packed with valuable knowledge to help navigate the complex world of youth soccer recruitment. Tune in and get ready to take your game to the next level!
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Following an enormous response from our previous episode where we discussed tryouts and relative age effect, this episode takes a deeper dive into the disputed topic with Dr. Drew Watson, the ECNL Chief Medical Advisor. Dr. Watson joins Christian Lavers and Doug Bracken in discussing relative age effect lasting outcomes across the youth soccer landscape. The honest discussion is capped off with the concept of biobanding, what is it, and how could it effect your player?
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Unlock the secrets of navigating youth soccer tryouts with the expert guidance of ECNL’s Christian Lavers and Doug Bracken, not to mention the firsthand tales from our own Ashley Willis. From the ethics of recruitment to the emotional toll on everyone involved, get ready for a candid discussion on the pressures of tryout season, the sometimes overlooked importance of loyalty, and the strategies clubs use to minimize disruptions.
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Join us as we peel back the curtain on the complexities of club promotion, where it's not just about a single age group's success but the collective performance of an entire organization. In this discussion, we shine a light on the varying regional league performances and the weight of postseason victories in the journey to ECNL elevation. We also tackle the controversial birth year versus school year registration debate, a hot-button issue that hits close to home for players and parents alike.
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