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  • ALS is a fatal neurological disease that kills motor neurons. Even though it was first described more than 150 years ago, there is no cure, and the few drugs available only dampen the symptoms or slow the progression by a few months. In recent years new drugs have emerged. However, there is one problem: the life expectancy is just two to five years after diagnosis. This timeline is incompatible with the FDA drug approval process, which takes years and even decades. This has created a tense situation for desperate patients who are demanding the FDA approve unproven drugs. What’s the harm in giving desperate patients an imperfect drug?

    Credits

    Host: Alexis Pedrick
    Senior Producer: Mariel Carr
    Producer: Rigoberto Hernandez
    Associate Producer: Sarah Kaplan
    Audio Engineer: Jonathan Pfeffer
    “Color Theme” composed by Jonathan Pfeffer. Additional music by Blue Dot Sessions

  • In 1973 a bombshell study appeared in the premier scientific journal Science. It was called “On Being Sane in Insane Places.” Its author, a Stanford psychology professor named David Rosenhan, claimed that by faking their way into psychiatric hospitals, he and eight other pseudo-patients had proven that psychiatrists were unable to diagnose mental illness accurately.

    Psychiatrists panicked, and, as a result, re-wrote what’s known as “psychiatry’s bible”—the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, or DSM. The study and the subsequent overhaul of the DSM changed the field forever. So it was a surprise when, decades later, a journalist reopened Rosenhan’s files and discovered that the study was full of inconsistencies and even blatant fraud. So should we throw out everything it revealed? Or can something based on a lie still contain any truths?

    Credits

    Host: Alexis Pedrick
    Senior Producer: Mariel Carr
    Producer: Rigoberto Hernandez
    Associate Producer: Sarah Kaplan
    Audio Engineer: Jonathan Pfeffer
    “Color Theme” composed by Jonathan Pfeffer. Additional music by Blue Dot Sessions

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  • For more than 100 years, biologists who suggested that some cancers may be caused by viruses were the pariahs of genetics. However, they persevered and incrementally built their knowledge, leading to the discovery of retroviruses, the development of a test to diagnose HIV, and the creation of the HPV vaccine. Join us as we interview Gregory J. Morgan about his book Cancer Virus Hunters: A History of Tumor Virology.

    Credits

    Host: Alexis Pedrick
    Senior Producer: Mariel Carr
    Producer: Rigoberto Hernandez
    Associate Producer: Sarah Kaplan
    Audio Engineer: Jonathan Pfeffer
    “Color Theme” composed by Jonathan Pfeffer. Additional music by Blue Dot Sessions

  • In 1973 biochemist Bruce Ames created a simple test that showed if chemicals had the potential to cause cancer. The Ames test made him a hero of the emerging environmental movement. But then he completely changed course and said concerns about chemicals were overblown. So what happened? Did Ames change? Or did our understanding of what causes cancer change?

    Featured Oral History

    Bruce N. Ames, "Bruce N. Ames: The Marriage of Biochemistry and Genetics at Caltech, the NIH, UC Berkeley, and CHORI, 1954–2018" conducted by Paul Burnett in 2019 and 2020, Oral History Center, The Bancroft Library, University of California, Berkeley, 2021.

    Credits

    Host: Alexis Pedrick
    Senior Producer: Mariel Carr
    Producer: Rigoberto Hernandez
    Associate Producer: Sarah Kaplan
    Audio Engineer: Jonathan Pfeffer
    “Color Theme” composed by Jonathan Pfeffer. Additional music by Blue Dot Sessions

  • Ozempic and others in this family of drugs are nothing short of miraculous. Meant to treat Type 2 Diabetes, the drug exploded in popularity after researchers found that patients were reporting losing 15-21% of their body weight in clinical trials. There were some side effects, but none so severe that it raised concerns. Doctors began prescribing it to people who weren't diabetic but could benefit from weight loss, and now, our only problem seems to be getting enough of it for all the people who need it. It all seems magical, but is it too good to be true? Join us as we dive into the history of weight loss drugs, drug manufacturing regulations, and the role we think medicine should play in our lives.

    Credits

    Host: Alexis Pedrick
    Senior Producer: Mariel Carr
    Producer: Rigoberto Hernandez
    Associate Producer: Sarah Kaplan
    Audio Engineer: Jonathan Pfeffer
    “Color Theme” composed by Jonathan Pfeffer. Additional music by Blue Dot Sessions

  • The impact of cars on wildlife extends beyond roadkill, affecting species that never venture near roads. Car noise disrupts bird communication and behavior, and tire and brake dust from pollutes waterways with microplastics. In this wide-ranging interview, we talk to the author of Traffication: How Cars Destroy Nature and What We Can Do About It, Paul Donald about how he coined the term "traffication," the history of road ecology, and what we can do about the problem.

    Credits

    Host: Alexis Pedrick
    Senior Producer: Mariel Carr
    Producer: Rigoberto Hernandez
    Associate Producer: Sarah Kaplan
    Audio Engineer: Jonathan Pfeffer
    “Color Theme” composed by Jonathan Pfeffer. Additional music by Blue Dot Sessions

  • In 1856, Henry Perkin's attempt to synthesize quinine led to something very different: a vibrant purple dye. Perkin’s mauve revolutionized the fashion industry when Queen Victoria wore a dress of the color to her daughter's wedding. And in an ironic twist, synthetic fabric dyes ultimately led to synthetic drugs, including the first antipsychotic. This drug, known by its trade name Thorazine, was a gamechanger. “Nobody thought there could be a drug that would treat schizophrenia effectively,” says sociologist Andrew Scull, “and then suddenly there was.” In this episode we explore the enduring relationship between dyes and drugs, and the role that mistakes and serendipity still play in drug development.

    Credits

    Host: Alexis Pedrick
    Executive Producer: Mariel Carr
    Producer: Rigoberto Hernandez
    Associate Producer: Sarah Kaplan
    Audio Engineer: Jonathan Pfeffer
    “Color Theme” composed by Jonathan Pfeffer. Additional music by Blue Dot Sessions.

  • The color pink has long been in vogue, and when Barbie hit theaters in 2023, its appeal only increased. But its popularity dates back much further than the Mattel doll. In this bonus episode, Dr. Dominique Grisard, a gender studies professor at the University of Basel, discusses the hue and its ties to femininity, class, and Whiteness, as well as how pink has been used to subdue men in detention centers.

    This episode was inspired by our museum exhibition, BOLD: Color from Test Tube to Textile, on view through August 3, 2024.

    Credits

    Host: Alexis Pedrick
    Senior Producer: Mariel Carr
    Producer: Rigoberto Hernandez
    Associate Producer: Sarah Kaplan
    Audio Engineer: Jonathan Pfeffer
    “Color Theme” composed by Jonathan Pfeffer. Additional music by Blue Dot Sessions

  • For centuries people have been drawn to the potential healing powers of colored light. From a civil war general to a Thomas Edison wannabe, people have touted it as a medical miracle. Despite claims to the contrary, though, colored light won’t regrow limbs or heal burns. And yet, we are still drawn to the idea that somehow it can fix us. Today there are actual medical studies investigating the health benefits of colored light. So is there any validity to the claims of the past? Can color really heal us?

    This episode was inspired by our museum exhibition, BOLD: Color from Test Tube to Textile, on view through August 3, 2024.

    Credits

    Host: Alexis Pedrick
    Senior Producer: Mariel Carr
    Producer: Rigoberto Hernandez
    Associate Producer: Sarah Kaplan
    Audio Engineer: Jonathan Pfeffer
    “Color Theme” composed by Jonathan Pfeffer. Additional music by Blue Dot Sessions

  • In his epic poem, The Odyssey, Homer mentions the colors black, white, red, and yellow. But despite numerous mentions of the brilliant Greek sea and sky, the word blue never makes an appearance.

    This omission set off a debate between perception and language that would repeat itself over and over again throughout history: was there something wrong with the ancient Greek’s eyes? If they didn’t name blue, did that mean they couldn’t see it?

    We treat color like it's a clear measure of whether or not our brains are working the same. We expect an answer we can all agree on. Only it turns out some colors elude us. So when it comes to blue, are we truly seeing things differently or just seeing the same thing and describing it differently?

    Credits

    Host: Alexis Pedrick
    Senior Producer: Mariel Carr
    Producer: Rigoberto Hernandez
    Associate Producer: Sarah Kaplan
    Audio Engineer: Jonathan Pfeffer
    “Color Theme” composed by Jonathan Pfeffer. Additional music by Blue Dot Sessions

  • In the wake of the murder of George Floyd and the COVID-19 pandemic, there has been a new public interest in health inequities research. With this new focus, there also has come new funding with many researchers and institutions clamoring to receive lucrative funding and recognition in the field, but there are no official guidelines to distinguish a health equity expert.

    In this episode we sit down with Dr. Elle Lett who coined the term "health equity tourism" to describe when privileged and previously unengaged scholars enter the health equity field without developing the necessary expertise.

    Credits

    Hosts: Alexis Pedrick
    Senior Producer: Mariel Carr
    Producer: Rigoberto Hernandez
    Associate Producers: Padmini Raghunath & Sarah Kaplan
    Audio Engineer: Jonathan Pfeffer
    “Innate Theme” composed by Jonathan Pfeffer. Additional music by Blue Dot Sessions

  • Of all wealthy countries, the United States is the most dangerous place to have a baby. Our maternal mortality rate is abysmal, and over the past five years it’s only gotten worse. And there are huge racial disparities: Black women are three times more likely to die than white women. Despite some claims to the contrary, the problem isn’t race, it’s racism. In this episode we trace the origins of this harrowing statistic back to the dawn of American gynecology—a field that was built on the bodies of enslaved women. And we’ll meet eight women who have dedicated their lives to understanding and solving this complex problem.

    Credits

    Host: Alexis Pedrick
    Senior Producer: Mariel Carr
    Producer: Rigoberto Hernandez
    Associate Producer: Padmini Raghunath
    Audio Engineer: Jonathan Pfeffer
    “Innate Theme” composed by Jonathan Pfeffer. Additional music by Blue Dot Sessions.

  • Certain medical instruments have built-in methods of correcting for race. They’re based on the premise that Black bodies are inherently different from White bodies. The tool that measures kidney function, for example, underestimates how severe some Black patients’ kidney disease is, and prevents them from getting transplants. Medical students and doctors have been trying to do away with race correction tools once and for all. And they’re starting to see some success.

    About Innate: How Science Invented the Myth of Race

    “Correcting Race” is Episode 9 of Innate: How Science Invented the Myth of Race, a podcast and magazine project that explores the historical roots and persistent legacies of racism in American science and medicine. Published through Distillations, the Science History Institute’s highly acclaimed digital content platform, the project examines the scientific origins of support for racist theories, practices, and policies. Innateis made possible in part by the National Endowment for the Humanities: Democracy demands wisdom.

    Credits | Resource List | Transcript Credits

    Hosts: Alexis Pedrick and Elisabeth Berry Drago
    Senior Producer: Mariel Carr
    Producer: Rigoberto Hernandez
    Associate Producer: Padmini Raghunath
    Audio Engineer: Jonathan Pfeffer

    “Innate Theme” composed by Jonathan Pfeffer. Additional music by Blue Dot Sessions.

    Resource List

    A Unifying Approach for GFR Estimation: Recommendations of the NKF-ASN Task Force on Reassessing the Inclusion of Race in Diagnosing Kidney Disease, by Cynthia Delgado, Mukta Baweja, Deidra C Crews, Nwamaka D Eneanya, Crystal A Gadegbeku, Lesley A Inker, Mallika L Mendu, W Greg Miller, Marva M Moxey-Mims, Glenda V Roberts, Wendy L St Peter, Curtis Warfield, Neil R Powe

    A Yearslong Push to Remove Racist Bias From Kidney Testing Gains New Ground, by Theresa Gaffney

    ‘An entire system is changing’: UW Medicine stops using race-based equation to calculate kidney function, by Shannon Hong

    Breathing Race into the Machine: The Surprising Career of the Spirometer from Plantation to Genetics, by Lundy Braun

    Expert Panel Recommends Against Use of Race in Assessment of Kidney Function, by Usha Lee McFarling

    Hidden in Plain Sight – Reconsidering the Use of Race Correction in Clinical Algorithms, by Darshali A. Vyas, Leo G. Eisenstein, and David S. Jones

    Medical student advocates to end racism in medicine, by Anh Nguyen

    Precision in GFR Reporting Let’s Stop Playing the Race Card, by Vanessa Grubbs

    Reconsidering the Consequences of Using Race to Estimate Kidney Function, by Nwamaka Denise Eneanya, Wei Yang, Peter Philip Reese

  • When the plague broke out in San Francisco in 1900 the public health department poured all of their energy into stopping its spread in Chinatown, as if Chinatown were the problem. This episode reveals why they did it, what it has to do with race science, and what it tells us about the history of public health.

    Credits

    Host: Elisabeth Berry Drago
    Senior Producer: Mariel Carr
    Producer: Rigoberto Hernandez
    Associate Producer: Padmini Raghunath
    Audio Engineer: Jonathan Pfeffer

    “Innate Theme” composed by Jonathan Pfeffer. Additional music by Blue Dot Sessions.

  • In 2005 the FDA approved a pill to treat high blood preassure only in African Americans. This so-called miracle drug was named BiDil, and it became the first race-specific drug in the United States. It might sound like a good a good thing, but it had the unintended consequence of perpetuating the myth that race is a biological construct.

    Credits

    Hosts: Alexis Pedrick and Elisabeth Berry Drago
    Senior Producer: Mariel Carr
    Producer: Rigoberto Hernandez
    Associate Producer: Padmini Raghunath
    Audio Engineer: Jonathan Pfeffer

    “Innate Theme” composed by Jonathan Pfeffer. Additional music by Blue Dot Sessions.

    Resource List

    Fatal Invention: How Science, Politics, and Big Business Re-create Race in the Twenty-first Century, by Dorothy Roberts

    Oprah’s Unhealthy Mistake, by Osagie K. Obasogie

    Race in a Bottle: The Story of BiDil and Racialized Medicine in a Post-Genomic Age, by Jonathan Kahn

    Saving Sam: Drugs, Race, and Discovering the Secrets of Heart Disease, by Jay Cohn

    The Slavery Hypertension Hypothesis: Dissemination and Appeal of a Modern Race Theory, by Jay S Kaufman, Susan A Hall

    Superior: The Return of Race Science, by Angela Saini

  • The word “Tuskegee” has come to symbolize the Black community’s mistrust of the medical establishment. It has become American lore. However, most people don’t know what actually happened in Macon County, Alabama, from 1932 to 1972. This episode unravels the myths of the U.S. Public Health Service (USPHS) Syphilis Study (the correct name of the study) through conversations with descendants and historians.

    Credits

    Hosts: Alexis Pedrick and Elisabeth Berry Drago
    Senior Producer: Mariel Carr
    Producer: Rigoberto Hernandez
    Associate Producer: Padmini Raghunath
    Audio Engineer: Jonathan Pfeffer

    “Innate Theme” composed by Jonathan Pfeffer. Additional music by Blue Dot Sessions.

    Resource List

    Black Journal; 301; The Tuskegee Study: A Human Experiment

    Descendants of men from horrifying Tuskegee study want to calm virus vaccine fears, by David Montgomery

    Examining Tuskegee: The infamous Syphilis Study and Its Legacy

    Nova: The Deadly Deception

    Susceptible to Kindness: Miss Evers’ Boys and the Tuskegee Syphis Study

    Tuskegee Legacy Stories

    Under the Shadow of Tuskegee: African Americans and Health Care, by Vanessa Northington Gamble

    Voices For Our Fathers Legacy Foundation

  • In 1991, as crews broke ground on a new federal office building in lower Manhattan, they discovered human skeletons. It soon became clear that it was the oldest and largest African cemetery in the country. The federal government was ready to keep building, but people from all over the African diaspora were moved to treat this site with dignity, respect, and scientific excellence. When bioarchaeologist Michael Blakey took over, that's exactly what they got. But it wasn't easy.

    Credits

    Host: Alexis Pedrick
    Senior Producer: Mariel Carr
    Producer: Rigoberto Hernandez
    Associate Producer: Padmini Raghunath
    Audio Engineer: Jonathan Pfeffer
    “Innate Theme” composed by Jonathan Pfeffer. Additional music by Blue Dot Sessions.

    Resource List

    Archaeology under the Blinding Light of Race, by Michael Blakey

    African Burial Ground Project: Paradigm for Cooperation? by Michael Blakey

    The African Burial Ground in New York City: Memory, Spirituality, and Space, by Andrea E. Frohne

    The African Burial Ground: An American Discovery, documentary film by David Kutz

    Reassessing the “Sankofa Symbol” in New York's African Burial Ground, by Erik R. Seeman

    The New York African Burial Ground Final Reports, by multiple authors

  • In 2019, Abdul-Aliy Muhammad, a community organizer and journalist, learned that the Penn Museum of Archaeology and Anthropology had a collection of skulls that belonged to enslaved people. As Muhammad demanded that the university return these skulls, they discovered that claiming ownership over bodies of marginalized people is not just a relic of the past—it continues to this day.

    Credits

    Host: Alexis Pedrick
    Senior Producer: Mariel Carr
    Producer: Rigoberto Hernandez
    Associate Producer: Padmini Raghunath
    Audio Engineer: Jonathan Pfeffer
    “Innate Theme” composed by Jonathan Pfeffer. Additional music by Blue Dot Sessions.

    Resource List

    It’s past time for Penn Museum to repatriate the Morton skull collection, by Abdul-Aliy Muhammad

    Penn Museum seeks to rebury stolen skulls of Black Philadelphians and ignites pushback, by Abdul-Aliy Muhammad

    Penn Museum owes reparations for previously holding remains of a MOVE bombing victim, by Abdul-Aliy Muhammad

    City of Philadelphia should thoroughly investigate the MOVE remains’ broken chain of custody, by Abdul-Aliy Muhammad

    Black Philadelphians in the Samuel George Morton Cranial Collection , by Paul Wolff Mitchell

    Some skulls in a Penn Museum collection may be the remains of enslaved people taken from a nearby burial ground, by Stephan Salisbury

    Remains of children killed in MOVE bombing sat in a box at Penn Museum for decades, by Maya Kassutto

    The fault in his seeds: Lost notes to the case of bias in Samuel George Morton's cranial race science, by Paul Wolff Mitchell

    She Was Killed by the Police. Why Were Her Bones in a Museum?, by Bronwen Dickey

    Corpse Selling and Stealing were Once Integral to Medical Training, by Christopher D.E. Willoughby

    Medicine, Racism, and the Legacies of the Morton Skull Collection, by Christopher D.E. Willoughby

    Final Report of the Independent Investigation into the City of Philadelphia’s Possession of Human Remains of Victims of the 1985 Bombing of the MOVE Organization, prepared by Dechert LLP and Montgomery, McCracken, Walker & Rhoads LLP, for the city of Philadelphia

    The Odyssey of the MOVE remains, prepared by the Tucker Law Group for the University of Pennsylvania

    Move: Confrontation in Philadelphia, film by Jane Mancini and Karen Pomer

    Let the Fire Burn, film by Jason Osder

    Philadelphia Special Investigation Commission (MOVE) Records, archival collection at Temple University's Urban Archives



  • In the 1990s a liberal population geneticist launched the Human Genome Diversity Project. The goal was to sequence the genomes of “isolated” and “disappearing” indigenous groups throughout the world. The project did not go as planned—indigenous groups protested it, and scientists and anthropologists criticized it. This episode examines what went wrong and asks the question: can anti-racist scientists create racist science?

    About Innate: How Science Invented the Myth of Race

    “The Vampire Project” is Episode 4 of Innate: How Science Invented the Myth of Race, a podcast and magazine project that explores the historical roots and persistent legacies of racism in American science and medicine. Published through Distillations, the Science History Institute’s highly acclaimed digital content platform, the project examines the scientific origins of support for racist theories, practices, and policies. Innate is made possible in part by the National Endowment for the Humanities: Democracy demands wisdom.

    Credits

    Hosts: Alexis Pedrick and Elisabeth Berry Drago
    Senior Producer: Mariel Carr
    Producer: Rigoberto Hernandez
    Associate Producer: Padmini Raghunath
    Audio Engineer: Jonathan Pfeffer

    “Innate Theme” composed by Jonathan Pfeffer. Additional music by Blue Dot Sessions.