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Ed chats with four movers & shakers in Canadian climate philanthropy.
On Nov. 13, 2024, nine prominent Canadian family foundations, including EvC's David Keith’s, announced a combined pledge of $405 million, all dedicated to accelerating Canada’s shift to a low-carbon economy. They touch on:
Why this financial commitment occurred and why now The challenges facing climate advocacy today and in the near futureWhat needs to succeed in the next 3-5 years How philanthropy should respond when governments start to roll back key pieces of climate and environmental legislation - just like what we’re seeing already happening in the US post-inauguration.About Our Guests:
(01:23) Claire Seaborn is an expert advisor to the Clean Economy Fund, former Chief of Staff to Energy and Natural Resources Minister Jonathan Wilkinson, and now a lawyer practicing at Torys LLP.
(08:39) Devika Shah is the Executive Director of Environment Funders Canada, an umbrella organization for environmental foundations.
(15:17) Bruce Lourie is President of the Ivey Foundation, one of the largest climate funders in the country.
(20:55) Eric St-Pierre is the Executive Director of the Trottier Family Foundation, also one of Canada’s largest climate funders.
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Join David & Ed for a special end-of-2024 Ask-Us-Anything episode dedicated to your questions.
Thanks to everyone who sent in your questions - we couldn't do it without you!
Also, thanks to the Pembina Institute for help with an answer at 22:00 (reference link - Meeting the emissions cap-A feasible pathway for the oil and gas).
More show notes on our website.
About Your EvC Co-Hosts:David Keith is Professor and Founding Faculty Director, Climate Systems Engineering Initiative at the University of Chicago. He is the founder of Carbon Engineering and was formerly a professor at Harvard University and the University of Calgary. He splits his time between Canmore and Chicago.
Sara Hastings-Simon studies energy transitions at the intersection of policy, business, and technology. She’s a policy wonk, a physicist turned management consultant, and a professor at the University of Calgary and Director of the Master of Science in Sustainable Energy Development.
Ed Whittingham is a clean energy policy/finance professional specializing in renewable electricity generation and transmission, carbon capture, carbon removal and low carbon transportation. He is a Public Policy Forum fellow and formerly the executive director of the Pembina Institute, a national clean energy think tank.
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𝘿𝙖𝙫𝙞𝙙 & 𝙀𝙙 𝙘𝙝𝙖𝙩 𝙬𝙞𝙩𝙝 𝙗𝙚𝙨𝙩-𝙨𝙚𝙡𝙡𝙞𝙣𝙜 𝙨𝙘𝙞𝙚𝙣𝙘𝙚 𝙬𝙧𝙞𝙩𝙚𝙧 𝙖𝙣𝙙 𝙚𝙨𝙨𝙖𝙮𝙞𝙨𝙩 𝘿𝙖𝙫𝙞𝙙 𝙒𝙖𝙡𝙡𝙖𝙘𝙚-𝙒𝙚𝙡𝙡𝙨. It's a wide-ranging discussion covering everything from the potential fallout of the US election, shifting global interests and priorities, climate activism, China's role in climate and green energy technology, and as usual - listener questions for our guest.
(01:27) US election fallout(09:33) Where do we sit globally on climate?(11:59) State of climate activism?(20:07) Communicating climate risk without alarm(29:09) Air pollution(35:22) Listener questions(46:37) China's green tech dominance(49:34) Who should we be reading?Detailed show notes available here
About Our Guest:
David Wallace-Wells is currently a columnist and staff writer at The New York Times, where he writes a weekly newsletter on climate change, technology, the future of the planet and how we live on it. He was previously the Deputy Editor at New York Magazine, where he also wrote a column on climate change, including the cover story, “The Uninhabitable Earth,” which was expanded into a New York Times bestselling book with the same title.
About Your Hosts:
David Keith is Professor and Founding Faculty Director, Climate Systems Engineering Initiative at the University of Chicago. He is the founder of Carbon Engineering and was formerly a professor at Harvard University and the University of Calgary. He splits his time between Canmore and Chicago.Sara Hastings-Simon studies energy transitions at the intersection of policy, business, and technology. She’s a policy wonk, a physicist turned management consultant, and a professor at the University of Calgary and Director of the Master of Science in Sustainable Energy Development.
Ed Whittingham is a clean energy policy/finance professional specializing in renewable electricity generation and transmission, carbon capture, carbon removal and low carbon transportation. He is a Public Policy Forum fellow and formerly the executive director of the Pembina Institute, a national clean energy think tank.
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Support Energy vs Climate on #GivingTuesday
Energy vs Climate is a labour of love – we hosts don't draw a salary from the show because we feel strongly about the public service benefit of the project.
But, we still have production costs. So, we're asking one last time for you to please consider making a one-time or monthly donation in our only annual donation campaign. Thanks in part to last year's generous supporters, just yesterday we recorded a show with New York Times columnist David Wallace-Wells. It was a terrific conversation (thanks to all who sent in questions), and we look forward to dropping it on our feed in the next few days. We're nearly at our goal of $5000 - by helping us to reach this goal, you're helping to keep Energy vs Climate on the air.
Thanks so much everyone. Now back to EvC's irregularly scheduled programming.
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Climate Book Reviews is co-hosted by EvC's own Ed Whittingham and his friend Roger Thompson, Associate Dean and Professor of Writing and Rhetoric at Stony Brook University in New York.
Each episode highlights some climate related books worth knowing about. This episode is an interview with New Zealand author Kirsten McDougall about her novel, She’s a Killer. At times hilarious and at other times troubling, the book is set in the not-too-distant future and features a near genius with sociopathic tendencies facing the realities of her severely climate impacted world. For more info on the CBR podcast, check out climatebookreviews.com
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David & Ed chat with University of Chicago's Michael Greenstone.
Show Notes:
(02:52) Engineering the Planet
(03:25) The future of the Temperature–Mortality Relationship
(04:48) Valuing the Global Mortality Consequences of Climate Change
(07:36) Climate Damages and Adaptation Potential Across Sectors of the US
(09:35) Heat Exposure & Poverty
(11:30) Seasonality of Mortality Under Climate Change
(13:59) Evaluating the 35°C Wet-Bulb Temperature Adaptability Threshold
(15:30) Relationship Between Season of Birth, Temperature Exposure, & Wellbeing
(17:35) Heat & Learning
(20:14) Slow Burn: The Hidden Costs of a Warming World
(22:06) Air Pollution on Life Expectancy from China’s Huai River Policy
(25:10) Introducing the Air Quality Life Index
(26:52) The Clean Air Act of 1970 & Adult Mortality
(26:58) US: Clean Air Act (1970)
(28:34) China’s War on Pollution
(32:45) For Breathable Air
(34:31) Social Cost of Carbon
(40:48) The Social Cost of Carbon Is Now US$225 Per Tonne
(42:07) Rising Temperatures, Melting Incomes
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𝗟𝗶𝘃𝗲 𝗮𝘁 𝗘𝗻𝗲𝗿𝗴𝘆 𝗗𝗶𝘀𝗿𝘂𝗽𝘁𝗼𝗿𝘀: 𝗨𝗡𝗜𝗧𝗘 𝟮𝟬𝟮𝟰 𝘄𝗶𝘁𝗵 𝗗𝗮𝘃𝗶𝗱 𝗞𝗲𝗶𝘁𝗵 & 𝗘𝗱 𝗪𝗵𝗶𝘁𝘁𝗶𝗻𝗴𝗵𝗮𝗺
David and Ed hit the stage at the Energy Disruptors: UNITE 2024 summit in Calgary to discuss solar geoengineering, a major focus of David's academic research. Together, they unpack the technical and non-technical dimensions of solar geoengineering, including global governance and decision making.
(00:45) Start of live show and topic introduction
(04:49) What is Solar Geoengineering?
(30:45) Audience Q & A
𝗔𝗯𝗼𝘂𝘁 𝗬𝗼𝘂𝗿 𝗘𝘃𝗖 𝗖𝗼-𝗛𝗼𝘀𝘁𝘀:
David Keith is Professor and Founding Faculty Director, Climate Systems Engineering Initiative at the University of Chicago. He is the founder of Carbon Engineering and was formerly a professor at Harvard University and the University of Calgary. He splits his time between Canmore and Chicago.
Sara Hastings-Simon studies energy transitions at the intersection of policy, business, and technology. She’s a policy wonk, a physicist turned management consultant, and a professor at the University of Calgary and Director of the Master of Science in Sustainable Energy Development.
Ed Whittingham is a clean energy policy/finance professional specializing in renewable electricity generation and transmission, carbon capture, carbon removal and low carbon transportation. He is a Public Policy Forum fellow and formerly the executive director of the Pembina Institute, a national clean energy think tank.
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Rethinking EV Charging
A commonly held belief by new or prospective EV owners is that purchasing one requires the installation of a “level 2”, or 240 volt, home charger. Sara and Ed chat about recent University of Calgary research that challenges this assumption. They discuss considerations that might go into choosing which option is best for EV owners and people considering EVs, as well as the practical realities when it comes to charging, range anxiety - and pottery kilns.
About Your EvC Co-Hosts:David Keith is Professor and Founding Faculty Director, Climate Systems Engineering Initiative at the University of Chicago. He is the founder of Carbon Engineering and was formerly a professor at Harvard University and the University of Calgary. He splits his time between Canmore and Chicago.
Sara Hastings-Simon studies energy transitions at the intersection of policy, business, and technology. She’s a policy wonk, a physicist turned management consultant, and a professor at the University of Calgary and Director of the Master of Science in Sustainable Energy Development.
Ed Whittingham is a clean energy policy/finance professional specializing in renewable electricity generation and transmission, carbon capture, carbon removal and low carbon transportation. He is a Public Policy Forum fellow and formerly the executive director of the Pembina Institute, a national clean energy think tank.
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We have a special climate politics focused show to open the new season. It's a time of elections here in Canada and the U.S. As multiple campaigns heat up, we’re asking, where does climate fit in as an issue?
David Keith and Ed Whittingham chat with political strategist and co-host of The Strategists podcast, Stephen Carter, to understand where climate fits as a priority issue for voters. They discussed whether or not climate can still be a winning issue, how proponents of the consumer facing carbon tax failed to make it politically resilient, and why climate remains a left-right oppositional issue in Canada and the U.S.
About Our Guest:
Best known as one of Canada’s leading political strategists, Stephen Carter played a leadership role in the rise of Mayor Naheed Nenshi, Premier Alison Redford, and Mayor Jyoti Gondek. The National Post, CBC and other political commentators have described him as a “political mastermind.” He is a former premier's office and mayor's office chief of staff, and was National Director of Campaign Strategy for Hill+Knowlton Strategies from 2012 - 2015.
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A personal message from EvC co-host Sara Hastings-Simon.
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Introducing Climate Now:
Today, we are excited to bring you an episode from the Climate Now podcast. Climate Now, hosted by James Lawler, and accessible wherever you listen to podcasts as well as on their website - climatenow.com - is a podcast and newsletter that explores and explains the ideas, technologies, and policies we need to address the global climate crisis.
The episode we’re sharing, "When insurers can no longer afford the risk," features former Director of Investment Research at Wellington Management, and current Founder of Probable Futures, Spencer Glendon. In this episode, you'll learn how home insurance policies are priced today, why that method is proving insufficient in a rapidly changing climate, and what this means for the future of the home insurance industry and homeowners.
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David, Sara, and Ed talk to Canada's Minister of Energy & Natural Resources, Jonathan Wilkinson.
Show Notes:
(02:57) Powering Canada Forward(04:24) Modernizing the energy sector
(06:28) Powering Canada
(07:46) Canada’s Electric Reliability Framework
(11:30) Canadian Climate Institute
(12:17) Mohawk Council of Kahnawake inks deal with Hydro-Québec
(14:24) Governments of Canada, Nova Scotia & New Brunswick Show Progress Toward Phasing Out Coal by 2030
(16:25) Canadian Parliament Passes Bill C-59
(23:29) Canada’s economic competitiveness in a global energy transition
(25:52) How to Overcome Polarization on Climate Action
(32:17) Public opinion about energy transition
(33:47) Alberta’s renewable energy restrictions will throttle a booming industry
(34:11) Hydrogen Strategy for Canada
(46:18) National strategy to protect nature
(49:00) Canada Insures Carbon Price Contracts w/ $7B Funding
(54:07) What does Bill C-59 mean for you?
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David, Sara, and Ed talk to Dr Benjamin Franta, Senior Research Fellow in Climate Litigation at the Oxford Sustainable Law Programme and the founding head of the Climate Litigation Lab.
Show Notes:
(01:05) Dr. Benjamin Franta
(02:20) Nearly 15% of Americans deny climate change is real
(02:25) The social anatomy of climate change denial in the US
(02:50) Understanding the Shift in Media Perception Towards EVs
(08:40) Climate litigation more than doubles in five years, now a key tool in delivering climate justice
(10:43) The Rising Threat of CO2
(10:50) A U.S. President Was First Informed of CO2’s Impact 59 Years Ago This Month
(11:25) Edward Teller warned the oil industry about global warming
(12:10) Assessing ExxonMobil’s global warming projections
(21:05) Empire of Pain by Patrick Radden Keefe
(21:25) The Anxious Generation by Jonathan Haidt; Ten problems with Jonathan Haidt’s book
(22:15) Exxon's Climate Concealment
(32:05) Drilled Podcast
(42:30) Shell appeals against Dutch court's landmark climate ruling
(48:23) Waterkeeper Alliance
(50:30) Vermont Is Coming for Big Oil
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Hosts David, Sara, and Ed chat with battery storage expert Dr. Shirley Meng of the University of Chicago.
About Our Guest:
Dr. Y. Shirley Meng is a Professor at the Pritzker School of Molecular Engineering at the University of Chicago. She serves as the Chief Scientist of the Argonne Collaborative Center for Energy Storage Science (ACCESS) Argonne National Laboratory.
Show Notes:
(01:12) – Dr. Shirley Meng
(02:12) – How Lithium Ion Batteries Work
(02:22) – How sodium could change the game
(02:24) – How Solid-State Batteries Will Fuel America's Desire For Bigger, Better EVs
(08:20) – EvC: Understanding the Shift in Media Perception Towards EVs
(08:32) - Edwards and Sanborn Solar and Energy Storage Project
(17:25) – Lithium Facts - Gov't of Canada
(18:30) – IEA - Advanced Clean Technology Manufacturing
(20:55) – China’s first sodium-ion battery energy storage station could cut reliance on lithium
(24:30) – First Phosphate
(26:40) – China's EV strategy of going small and cheap to pay big dividends in Asia
(27:10) – Hydro‑Québec’s Center of Excellence in Transportation Electrification and Energy Storage
(31:55) – Indonesia’s grand ambition to become an EV leader
(38:00) – Inflation Reduction Act & EVs
(38:08) – Canada is pouring billions of dollars into the electric vehicle industry
(40:40) – Umicore confirms expansion of its EV battery materials production footprintProduced by Amit Tandon & Bespoke Podcasts
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Another BONUS Podcast Episode!
The electricity file has been popping, especially in Alberta, where on a weekly basis a clash of worldviews on the future of electricity generation is on full display.About Our Guest
Blake Shaffer is an Assistant Professor in the Department of Economics at The University of Calgary. He works on electricity markets, climate policy, and energy transitions, and frequently provides policy advice to governments at various levels.
Show Notes
(00:02:44) AB’s new renewable energy rules could ban projects(00:04:26) AUC inquiry into the ongoing economic, orderly & efficient development of electricity generation in AB
(00:09:00) Assessing potential impact of AB's proposed viewscapes & agricultural land restrictions
(00:10:20) AB brings in new restrictions on renewable power projects as moratorium set to end
(00:13:01) Farms or Solar Farms?
(00:18:56) ‘What We Heard’ during consultations & directions being considered for the final regulations
(00:24:13) Rotating brownouts leave thousands without power
(00:27:52) Transmission Policy Review
(00:31:03) Power Flows: Transmission Lines & Corporate Profits
(00:31:44) Replacing The Utility Transmission Syndicate’s Control
(00:33:38) Improving integration & coordination of provincially-managed electricity systems in Canada
(00:34:15) AB's Renewable Electricity Program
(00:35:30) Affordable Energy, Good Jobs, and a Growing Clean Economy
(00:37:07) Recommendations for AB’s Power Market
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New BONUS Podcast Episode
Canada's consumer carbon tax policy has been getting a lot of press attention of late, especially following the $15/T increase that took affect on April 1, 2024. Much has been said about it across the political spectrum, some of it accurate, and some of it just plain wrong. David's away this month, so it's just Sara and Ed talking all things carbon tax with special guest Mark Jaccard.About Our Guest
Mark Jaccard has been a prof at Simon Fraser University since 1986 save a couple of sabbaticals serving as Chair and CEO of the British Columbia Utilities Commission. Mark has served on the IPCC, domestically on the National Roundtable on the Environment and the Economy, and he’s a Fellow of the Royal Society of Canada and CD Howe Institute. His most recent book is the “The Citizen’s Guide for Climate Success,” published in 2021.
Show Notes:
(00:06:20) – Low Carbon Fuel Standards in Canada
(00:08:37) – Designing flexible regulations to mitigate climate change: A cross-country comparative policy analysis
(00:12:37) – Top Runner Programme
(00:14:36) – Choose Wisely - Options and Trade-offs in Recycling Carbon Pricing Revenues
(00:16:55) – Bridging the Gap: Real Options for Meeting Canada’s 2030 GHG Target
(00:19:13) – Assessing climate sincerity in the Canadian 2021 election
(00:23:25) – Independent Assessment: 2030 Emissions Reduction Plan
(00:32:22) – Rebates rise as carbon price increases to $80 per tonne
(00:33:37) – Designing flexible regulations to mitigate climate change: A cross-country comparative policy analysis
(00:36:57) – The Political Costs of Oil Price Shocks
(00:39:50) – Exploring Citizen Support for Different Types of Climate Policy
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Dr. Simon Evans, Deputy Editor & Senior Policy Editor at Carbon Brief join co-hosts David, Sara, and Ed, to tease apart EV fact from fiction.
About Our Guest:
Simon Evans is deputy editor and policy editor at Carbon Brief. Simon covers climate and energy policy. He holds a PhD in biochemistry from Bristol University and previously studied chemistry at Oxford University.
Show Notes:
(00:02:01) – Factcheck: 21 misleading myths about electric vehicles
(00:04:59) – Electric vs. Gas Cars: Is It Cheaper to Drive an EV?
(00:06:37) – IPCC Climate Change 2023 Synthesis Report
(00:10:30) – Reducing CO2 emissions from passenger cars
(00:12:15) – Good Politics Bad Policy – Why governments should end their subsidies for EVs
(00:17:25) – U of T researchers model the health benefits of electric cars, find 'large improvement in air quality'
(00:18:45) – Roles of diffusion patterns, technological progress, and environmental benefits in determining optimal renewable subsidies in the US
(00:20:13) – Politics in the U.S. energy transition: Case studies of solar, wind, biofuels and electric vehicles policy
(00:27:20) – Five point plan to protect drivers from a rush to net zero is backed by MPs, motorists & campaigners
(00:31:20) – Electric Vehicle Battery Supply Chains
(00:37:12) – Alberta Budget 2024: EV groups question fairness of new $200 annual tax
(00:43:46) – Yes, frigid weather may reduce your EV battery range. Here's how to prepare
(00:48:24) – Hydrogen vs Electric Cars___
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Co-hosts David, Sara, Ed, and energy/environmental economist Dr. Andrew Leach of the University of Alberta unpack the past, present and future of Canada's oilsands.
About Our Guest:
Andrew Leach is an energy and environmental economist and is Professor at the University of Alberta, with a joint appointment in the Department of Economics (Arts) and the Faculty of Law. His research spans energy and environmental economics. His most recent book is Between Doom and Denial: Facing facts about climate change.Show Notes:
(00:46) – Oil Market Report - November 2023
(01:57) – A Matter of Fact: How the oil sands benefits Canadians
(05:06) – Canada’s oil and gas sector, the road to net zero and regional fairness
(06:16) – Making progress on Canadian oil sands CO2 emissions intensity
(06:36) – This oil sands crude has lower GHG emissions intensity than the U.S. average
(12:45) – Crude Oil Forecast Markets & Transportation
(16:16) – Refinery Economics
(25:30) – What's in store for 2024 — Part 3: Growth Plans at Alberta's largest in-situ producers
(28:19) – Not Fit for Purpose: Oil Sands Mines and Alberta’s Mine Financial Security Program
(29:53) – Fiscal Plan A Responsible Plan for a Growing Province 2024-27
(38:02) – CCS Won’t Happen in Oilsands Without Bigger Subsidies, Cenovus Exec Warns
(43:15) – The Role of Critical Minerals in Clean Energy Transitions
(46:39) – Whose jobs face transition risk in Alberta? Understanding sectoral employment precarity in an oil-rich Canadian province
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Overview:
What does the history of energy tell us about energy transition?
Can we learn from the past or will we repeat the same mistakes?
What do people get wrong when trying to extract lessons from the history of energy?
Co-hosts David, Sara, and Ed are joined by guest, Dr. Petra Dolata, to discuss data on historical transitions, including lessons of deindustrialization in the Ruhr region of Germany on Season 5, Episode 8 of Energy vs Climate.
About Our Guest:
Petra Dolada is Associate Professor in the Department of History at the University of Calgary. A former Canada Research Chair (Tier II) in the History of Energy, who held previous academic positions at the Freie Universität Berlin in Germany and at Kings College London in the UK, her research examines the 1970s energy crises, transatlantic energy relations and the historical connections between deindustrialization and energy transitions. She is the co-convenor of the Energy In Society working group at the Calgary Institute for the Humanities.
Topics:
(00:00) Intro
(03:19) Socio-energy systems design: A policy framework for energy transitions
(05:00) The 200-year history of energy transitions
(07:20) History of Prime Movers and Future Implications
(08:34) Gauging the Role of Energy Substitution in Transitioning to Low-Carbon Economies
(12:12) The Social Dimensions of Energy Transitions
(14:00) Histories of Transitions
(16:35) Peaking: A Brief History of Select Energy Transitions
(21:00) Profitable Solutions to Climate, Oil, and Proliferation
(25:00) What we need to know about the pace of decarbonization
(35:24) World History and Energy
(40:07) The Future Role of Coal: International Market Realities vs Climate Protection?
(47:10) The Energy Transition Is a Technological Revolution — with a Deadline
(51:00) Three sides to every story: Gender perspectives in energy transition pathways in Canada, Kenya and Spain___
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