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Beatrice Chestnut and Uranio Paes discuss how early childhood development is impacted by Enneagram types. As adults, if we make the connections between our current struggles to unattended needs that come from childhood, it can make behavioral changes easier.
This valuable theme is taught in the CP Enneagram Academy’s professional Enneagram Skills workshop, which is offered online each year.
They reference Sigmund Freud, Claudio Naranjo, Karne Horney, and many others who have paved the way to understanding this relationship between nature and nurture.
Beatrice Chesnut’s Paper about Object Relations Theory and the Enneagram
https://cpenneagram.com/s/BChestnut_Object-Relations-Theory.pdf
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In this episode, we revisit one of the most-listened-to episodes of our podcast. Beatrice Chestnut and Uranio Paes discuss why subtypes are so important when figuring out your type or even typing your clients. They also go through all 27 subtypes in the enneagram and talk about how Bea brought to light the important work of Claudio Naranjo through her book, The Complete Enneagram: 27 Paths to Greater Self-Knowledge.
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This episode addresses the challenge of accurately identifying Enneagram types by exploring how childhood behaviors and arrow movements provide key insights into early personality formation, offering a framework for more precise typing and pointing to transformative, psychological growth paths. Join Beatrice Chestnut and Uranio Paes in this deep dive into how children access Enneagram arrows.
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Humility is an important concept in inner work according to many spiritual traditions. In some ways, it’s a key part of what the Enneagram is about, which is disidentifying with ego.
Beatrice Chestnut and Uranio Paes will discuss how humility is commonly understood but also how we might understand it when we are using the Enneagram for inner work. They discuss how pride shows up in all nine types and all three dominant instincts, and how humility can help us discern the difference between ego and our true selves.
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Enneagram teacher and psychotherapist Beatrice Chestnut has a rich conversation interviewing an Enneagram Social Four, Elizabeth Cotton. As a SO4, Lizzy shares her experience using the Enneagram with her clients as a psychotherapist and how she sees the power of this ancient tool, especially when working with couples. She also opens up about how understanding her own Enneagram subtype helps her dissolve her attachment to sadness and reside in her deeper nature of pure joy.
You can learn more about the 27 Enneagram subtypes. https://cpenneagram.com/subtypes
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Our personality is a defensive coping structure to protect us from pain, including traumatic injury. This defense mechanism was necessary when dealing with trauma at the time, but afterward, we tend to have problems that flow from that defense that block our growth. It becomes like a wound that hasn’t been healed and creates challenges for change. Uranio Paes and licensed psychotherapist Beatrice Chestnut share specific cases they had with clients of each Enneagram type when healing trauma.
CP Enneagram Academy has Enneagram inner work retreats that use trauma healing to help students.
If you are working through trauma or know someone who is, go to https://cpenneagram.com/live-courses to learn more about our inner work retreats.
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It's important not to judge people for not being interested in the Enneagram or self-development in general. If your family and friends are not interested in the Enneagram, you could try to grow your social circle to include people who are interested. Beatrice Chestnut and Uranio Paes share advice on how to get people in your life curious about this powerful tool for inner work.
One way to grow your circle is to join one of our workshops. Go to https://cpenneagram.com/live-courses to join an online event to learn with others and speak the language of the Enneagram with like-minded individuals.
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Today, our interview is with Jennifer Culverhouse, a Sexual Three.
During the interview, Beatrice Chestnut and Uranio Paes pointed out patterns in her personality that are common among SX 3s, which helps in understanding key differences between the three subtypes of Type Three.
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How do Zellennials think about the Enneagram? How do they discover the Enneagram and how do they use it? In this episode, Beatrice Chestnut and Uranio Paes interview Maddy Dray, a young Millennial who relates to aspects of Gen Z, and they discuss the Enneagram from her perspective.
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The whole process of working with the Enneagram to grow and transform is based on observing what’s really happening to us. Self-observation and self-reflection sometimes sound simple, but as a psychotherapist, Beatrice Chestnut knows from working with clients that it doesn’t come naturally to us. People are often very surprised at what they find when they intentionally try to observe something in themselves.
The Enneagram helps point out patterns in our personality that we can intentionally observe. Once we make our unconscious patterns conscious, it’s almost like our personality loses its reason for being. Because the personality is a self-defensive structure, shining a light onto our unconscious patterns makes it easier to eventually work on letting them go.
Beatrice Chestnut and Uranio Paes provide practical ideas about what to do for each of the nine Enneagram types to notice our personality patterns and how to make them more conscious.
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Pulling from the theory of Claudio Narajano, Bea and Uranio share some common myths and misconceptions about Enneagram types when subtypes are not understood.
When referring to subtypes, they are not referring to Wings. They use instinctual subtypes, which describe the mix of the passion of the type and dominant instinct, which is either self-preservation, social, or sexual. It is easy to think people of the same type are similar because they share a common passion. However, the dominant instinct influences the passion, and the subtype places a spotlight on the traits that make people different within each type.
For decades, Bea and Uranio studied the instinctual subtypes in-depth, but they also put the subtypes to the test by helping individuals and seeing subtypes work in practice. This is a great episode that can help prevent mistyping and guide people to their distinct growth paths.
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This is a fantastic interview with Milton Stewart, a SP 7. He shares how he discovered the Enneagram and the ways he used this powerful tool to understand himself and help others better their lives. He discussed stories of overcoming his growth challenges as a Self-Preservation Seven. During the interview, Beatrice Chesnut and Uranio Paes pointed out patterns in his personality that are common among SP 7s, which helps understand key differences between the three subtypes of Type Seven.
Milton is on the board of directors of the International Enneagram Association and hosts a podcast, Do It For The Gram: https://open.spotify.com/show/2UpiP5GetqwuR4NwAKEg3M.
You can learn more about the work he does using the Enneagram here: https://kaizencareers.com/
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Body Intelligence is something that is widely overlooked and undervalued around the world. Beatrice and Uranio Paes explain what it means to activate this Body Center, and how all nine types can benefit in understanding the value this can bring to our lives.
One of the key pathways for inner work and personal development is to rebalance the three Centers of Intelligence. This is the third episode in a three-part series that focuses on activating the three centers.
The Top Five in this episode is a fun one! Bea shares the top five most interesting things about Uranio Paes.
Check out our other videos on Activating Centers of Intelligence.
S3 Ep5 Activating the Head Center | ( Part 1 of 3)
https://open.spotify.com/episode/6yOHysTunevE1Xl2TZ6Zf8
S3 Ep7 Activating the Heart Center (part 2 of 3)
https://open.spotify.com/episode/4JjP3QbYOIA2Xl2R7ATuJF
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This is a rich interview with Nancy Hunterton exploring the experience of being a Sexual Four as a child, a mother, and a grandmother. During the interview, Beatrice Chesnut and Uranio Paes pointed out patterns in her personality that are common among Sexual Fours. Nancy shared stories, including the time she was in elementary school and stood up to her disrespectful teacher saying “Why don’t you pick on someone your own size?”
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In this episode, we are playing our most popular episode, which across all podcast platforms has over 55,000 plays!
It is important to know that as we dive deeper into the Enneagram and learn the complexities of the tool that helps us better understand ourselves and the world, the fundamentals are the most important concepts to understand. It's easy to overlook the passion of each of the types when we are thinking in terms of instinctual sequences or cultural influences on personalities. But the fundamentals of the Enneagram are crucial to understanding ourselves, our motivations, and how we interact with others in relationships.
Today we are sharing our very first episode, Getting Started: The Nine Types. We hope you get some new insights discovering the fundamentals of the Enneagram of describing the nine types.
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Most people use the heart center superficially, meaning they use reactive and conditioned emotions, like an emotional reflex. In this episode, Beatrice Chestnut and Uranio Paes go through each of the nine types and describe ways in which all Enneagram types can Activate their Heart Center and truly feel the four core emotions: fear, anger, sadness, and happiness. Activating the Heart Center is important for all types, including Heart types. It’s a sign of emotional maturity. It is when someone can deeply feel a range of emotions rather than disconnect from them, avoid them, or express them reactively.
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How does the Enneagram spread around the world? In today's episode, straight from Shanghai, Beatrice Chesnut and Uranio Paes sit down with Teacher Gao. Teacher Gao has had a similar trajectory with the Enneagram as Bea and Uranio. A Self-Preservation 3, Gao has taken a long journey to discover his type and describes his inner work trajectory. He is the head of the Diamond Enneagram School in Shanghai, where Bea and Uranio visit each year to teach advanced retreats.
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Every Enneagram type has a head center. While types Five, Six, and Seven overuse this center, the Body and Heart types underuse it.
In this episode, Uranio Paes explains that the majority of people use the most basic part of the lower Head Center too often and during inappropriate times. It is the mechanical part of the brain that is used to memorize information without critical thinking or reasoning. In this mode, people are vulnerable to confirmation bias because anything that challenges the current way of thinking is avoided. Uranio describes the phases of developing the Head Center and how it can test our understanding of the world around us.
Also, this episode’s Top Five is light-hearted. It is the top five most interesting things that Uranio Paes noticed about Beatrice Chestnut.
Mentioned Episodes:
The Enneagram Levels of Awareness Part 1 S1 Ep 30
The Enneagram Levels of Awareness Part 2 S1 Ep 31
What are the fixations of the nine Enneagram types? How to work on them? S2 Ep24
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We are looking back at one of our favorite episodes of our podcast Enneagram 2.0. It's about Bea’s research connecting the Enneagram and Dante’s The Divine Comedy.
The Divine Comedy, written over 700 years ago, offers a timeless and universal message of psycho-spiritual transformation that is still relevant today. Listen to this episode where she talks about how Inferno, Purgatory, and Paradise connect to different states of consciousness and the growth paths of the Enneagram types.
Beatrice Chestnut holds workshops in Florence every year, and participants enjoy being immersed in history while learning about Dante's life, The Divine Comedy, and the complex connections to the Enneagram.
Her next workshop called “Dante, Florence, and the Enneagram” will be from May 26th to May 30th, 2024 in Florence, Italy. To learn more about this incredible workshop and to register, please visit: https://www.novevie.it/en/dante/
The Divine Comedy, written over 700 years ago, offers a timeless and universal message of psycho-spiritual transformation that is still relevant today. Listen to this episode where she talks about how Inferno, Purgatory, and Paradise connect to different states of consciousness and the growth paths of the Enneagram types.
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Image: Dante Alighieri by Henry James Holiday from artvee.com
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We are not our personalities. However, when we are unaware of our lower selves, it’s easy to identify with our personalities. In this episode, Uranio Paes goes through each of the nine types to give examples of how to fool the personality so that we can be free from its hold on us.
Each of the nine Enneagram types has an over-developed Center of Intelligence. Uranio talks about The Fourth Way, an approach to self-development created by George Gurdjieff. Gurdjieff was the pioneer who brought the Enneagram to the West. He taught that the first way is the way of the body, the second is the way of the heart, and the third is the way of the mind. The Fourth Way is mixing these three Centers of Intelligence so our personality doesn’t control how we react and we can be a more complete human beyond the confines of our personality.
Check out our podcast episodes on Levels of Awareness:
The Enneagram Levels of Awareness Part 1 of 2
https://youtu.be/5FfW5Duma6w
The Enneagram Levels of Awareness Part 2 of 2
https://youtu.be/Ox54PKEhrt4
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