Episodes
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When we are going through suffering, we don’t usually think, “Hmm, what treasures might God have for me to discover here?”
It just feels like suffering.
However, author and major stroke survivor, Katherine Wolf, has a message for us: God has gems for us to find in the darkness. “If you have to go through hardship, why not get the treasure? My goodness, don’t waste the pain,” she says.
What else do we talk about?
What exactly are these “treasures” anyway?How should we respond to our friends’ immediate suffering?What if we are in a major depressive season? Is there hope for us? What if we don’t think our struggles are worth even naming as “suffering”? What steps can we take in the midst of a hard season to find hope?// Highlights:
“Before we can ever accept the circumstances of our life, we have to go through the process of grieving the life we thought we should have had.” --Katherine Wolf“The gift we can give one another as the body of Christ is to sprint toward one another’s pain and suffering.” --Katherine Wolf“We need to remember that we are called and assigned to our stories.” --Katherine Wolf“What saved my life was the logic of it all: If I should have died, I would have died. I did not die, therefore God has purpose in my being in this body and on this planet in this moment.” --Katherine Wolf“We need less people telling you what to think in the pain and more just being with you in the pain.” --Katherine Wolf// Question of the Week:
What two random things are in your junk drawer right now?
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Katherine’s amazing new devotional/reflection book? Find it hereFollow Katherine on IG hereJoin the HIMH FB group hereFollow Laurie on IG hereEmail us with thoughts or questions at [email protected] it here -
“Hope in the gospel and discouragement are not mutually exclusive,” Pastor Derwin Gray encouraged us on today’s episode.
But, how is that possible? The world can feel so defeating:
Politics, racial division, pastor scandals, congregant sin, and the drudgery of faithfully trying to do this thing called advancing the Kingdom of God wherever we are called can overwhelm anyone. How can we both experience grief, discouragement, or mourning, and allow it to propel us further into the heart of God?
Author and pastor of one of the fastest growing churches in America, Derwin Gray, preaches exactly the answer and exactly what weary souls needed to hear today.
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“When I find my heart becoming cynical I know that I have stepped out of grace and into self righteousness.” —Derwin Gray“I’m finding encouragement because that tomb in Jerusalem is still empty.” —Derwin Gray“We need more local pastors not teaching moralism, sin management, left-leaning secular ideologies or Pharisaical rightism. We need them to preach the gospel-centered, beautiful, bloody resurrection power of Jesus.” —Derwin Gray// QOTW:
What is your favorite sign of spring?
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This is a very gentle but powerful episode.
Since having the conversation, I (Laurie) can’t stop seeing the people-as-trees metaphor everywhere.
How? You’re just going to have to listen to find out. :)
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“We all have the seasons in life. We can’t expect the same things of ourselves in every single season. When we don’t experience seasons that are fruitful or blooming, it doesn’t mean that something is wrong with us, it can just mean we are in a different season.” —Joy Marie Clarkson“You can’t have buds and the blooms [on a tree] without ... the old leaves dying.” —Joy Marie Clarkson“I had cleared the land of my life of all the things that seemed ‘pointless’ … In doing that, I made the field of my life infertile and barren. ” —Joy Marie Clarkson// Question of the Week:
What do you accidentally buy too much of at the grocery store? (You have grocery-nesia?)
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Find Joy on IG hereOn Twitter hereOn FB hereOn her Substack hereHer podcast hereJoin the conversation at the HIMH FB Pod Page here!Watch the episode here -
Christy grew up in a hyper-legalistic system that added rigid rules to the gospel of Jesus.
(You might have seen glimpses of it if you watched the documentary, ‘Shiny Happy People.’)
Even after leaving, Christy internally battled the legalism that attached itself to her knowledge of the real Jesus. How did she break free—not only physically, but mentally and spiritually?
We also explore:
What is the difference between authority and authoritarianism?How can you tell if you’re in a legalistic system?Why would someone be drawn to such a structure?How can we break free from either a direct cult like Christy experienced, or simple (but unbiblical) legalism?// Highlights:
“Legalism and behavior-driven stuff (feeling like you have to perform for God) holds on tight. Even after getting out [of the cult] and going to college (I was wearing pants, I had shorter hair, and I looked way more normal than I used to look), I was still very much stuck in this idea that God didn’t like me if I wasn’t performing correctly.” —Christy Lynne Wood“The most damaging part of this cult was the idea of who God was: He was angry, he wanted certain behaviors and activities, and he was going to judge you and condemn you if you didn’t follow these rules and behaviors.” —Christy Lynne Wood“God wants us to be reconciled to the real Jesus, not to some fake god who is crushing us under his thumb… And, He wants this more than we do.” —Christy Lynne Wood// Question of the Week:
Do you have grocery-nesia? Do you go to the store and think you *definitely* need something, but get home only to discover you already have four? We want to hear about it.
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Watch the episode here!You can read Christy’s blog and more hereYou can find Christy’s book, Religious Rebels, hereWe talk about understanding the genre, etc. of the Bible. This book may be a helpChristy mentioned A Matter of Basic Principles book found hereYou can find the Diane Langberg book we talked about that explored authority, Redeeming Power, hereJoin the HIMH Podcast FB group here -
Oh, wow. This story.
How does one woman go from a childhood of following Jesus as much as she knows how, to professional hockey, to same-sex relationships, to transitioning to male for six years, to finding the real Jesus, and then to de-transitioning in the midst of a loving church community?
This episode has her story.
Hear a testimony and take part in a conversation on how to walk well with people who wrestle with gender today on the podcast.
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“I was crying out to God on the bedroom floor, and I heard him say, ‘Kyla. Return to me.’ And I was like, ‘What do you mean, return to you? Can’t I follow you and be Brycen?’ I heard him very clearly say to me, ‘No.’ I was weeping: ‘I don’t know what this looks like. Can I ever be female again?’ And he said to me, ‘Do you trust me and are you willing?’ And I cried out in that moment, ‘Yes!’” --Kyla Gillespie“Do we think we are powerful enough in ourselves to change and will somebody to love Jesus? Or do we believe in the power of the Holy Spirit who saves and changes people? That’s what [the people who discipled me] did. They called me to this gospel, but they loved me in the mess.” --Kyla Gillespie“It’s always different when we have face-to-face relationships. Suddenly all those things we did and said on the internet turn into, ‘Oh, maybe that wasn’t so kind or so nice or so gentle. Maybe I didn’t love you the way I’m commanded to love you.’” --Kyla Gillespie// Question of the Week:
What was your favorite childhood cereal?
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Find Kyla’s ministry hereSearch her on IG hereJoin the HIMH Podcast Group hereWatch the episode here -
Is anyone else feeling like they are in a rut in their marriage?
Maybe you’re not in crisis mode, but it’s kinda just . . . meh?
It’s easy to function; to sit on opposite couches and scroll on your phone. But, do you wonder if marriage could be better than that—not with some fantastical potion or even a weekend intensive per se, but what if it began with small, simple movements of risk toward one another?
Today, marriage experts Tracy Johnson and Chris Bruno guide those of us who feel “in a rut” toward a gentle path of hope.
How?
Grab a coffee drink you’ve never ordered before (you’ll get this reference after you listen ;)), and pull up an earbud.
(Oh, and single friends? Thanks for listening and being a friend to us as we figure out this heavenly metaphor as you figure out yours. (See episode 213 for more on this.))
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“In the last couple of years we have seen couples move into a devolution of trust. People have stepped away from a posture of generosity toward their spouses into a posture of protection.” —Chris Bruno “What I have found with the couples that we are working with is . . . they are profoundly disconnected and incredibly lonely. The surgeon general’s report that came out in May that the greatest mental health crisis we are facing as a country is actually tied to loneliness, and we are seeing the manifestation of that in the couples that are coming to us. They say, ‘I’m so lonely. How can I be so lonely in this marriage?’ . . . but without the tools to bridge that disconnection.” —Tracy Johnson“We live in a broken world where we assume, ‘If I risk, I will be missed.’ But what if we begin to build some trust so that we think, ‘If I risk, what if I am seen’?” —Chris Bruno// QOTW:
What is *in* for you for 2024, and what is *out*?
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Find Tracy and Chris’ work hereThat year of good dates?? HereChris and Tracy's ReStory Counseling hereThrive YouTube? HereMatt and Laurie’s fave marriage book? HereLaurie and Matt’s marriage book? HereJoin the HIMH Pod FB page here! Watch it here -
We are going to talk about singleness until we as the Church get this right, friends.
People talk about how marriage gives us a vision of eternity in how two different people seeking union shows the world a picture of how God (who is so different from us) will be one with His church. But, how does singleness show us a picture of what we will experience in the new heavens and new earth?
Author and ministry leader, Dani Treweek, is here to tell us how.
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“I have become absolutely convinced that singleness is not just the absence of something good, but it is the presence of something good.” —Dani Treweek“The industrial revolution…took the household and made it the privatized refuge from the dirty dark world of work outside. That meant that the relationships in the household became much more based on emotion and intimate ties, and the household became much more insular…. That had an impact on singleness because suddenly, singleness became the absence of those things. Singleness didn’t have a place in the household, but adjacent to it.” —Dani Treweek“We see in Scripture like 1 Corinthians 7 Paul saying, ‘Singleness is good. Marriage is good. Get on and live for Jesus, guys.’ Throughout all of church history we have struggled to hold that equilibrium.” —Dani Treweek“Marriage and singleness are not in competition with each other. They complement each other. They need each other to make sense of each other in the church, and to make sense of who we are as the church.” —Dani Treweek“We are going to be our most perfectly human selves in the next age—perfectly known and knowing perfectly, perfectly loved and loving perfectly—and we are going to do that as men and women with bodies but who are not married to each other and who are not having sex with each other. That actually says that we don’t need to be married and sexually active in our lives here and now in this creation in order to be fully human.” —Dani Treweek// Do the Next Thing:
Find Dani’s work (and book!) hereYou can follower her Substack hereYou can find her ministry is hereJoin our HIMH Podcast FB Page hereWatch the episode here -
It’s the end of 2023, so we are reflecting, looking ahead, and asking, “Do Laurie and Steve look alike?” Lol… (Matt and Laurie’s kids seem to think so…)
HOWEVER, the conversation mostly revolves around…
What did we learn in 2023?
Based on what we learned, how do we want to engage 2024 with more wisdom?
What simple tool did and are we using (and you can use, too) to plan the year?
Grab the last of the egg nog, and let’s hang out!
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“There were times throughout this year that God felt really distant. But in that, I found myself longing for His presence.”—Steve
“I started to find that the gym is the place I can tend to myself. I am not working with clients. I am not getting not getting milk for the kids. I am just there. No headphones on. In silence, lifting weights.” —Matt
“The default of life is to chase fires and try to put them out. That’s how we were living and that’s how we can mostly live. I don’t want to do that all of the time . . . It’s hard to play and laugh.” —Laurie
// Question of the Week:
There is no question of the week officially, but we DO want to know: Do Laurie and Steve look alike? :D
// Do the Next Thing:
The list of Core Needs can be found here with the 2024 printable
That Core Needs Series? Here
The Gardens series? Here
Our Impossible Marriage book? Here
Watch the podcast video here
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This time of year can feel unfair:
“Just kick back and enjoy the season! But also get the perfect present for everyone. But don’t do too much! #selfcare But do enough so that you tell people you love and appreciate them. But don’t! But also do.”
Thank the Lord we brought in our friend and wellness expert, Bonnie Gray, to help us learn how to approach this and every season not with another way to perfectly-imperfectly self-care your way into health and wholeness, but to sink deeply into the love of Jesus.
We also discuss:
Are people either helpers or those who are helped?What does the left brain/right brain have to do with this conversation?How can soul care be more than taking a bath or vegging out on our favorite TV show?What simple practices can we begin today to calm anxiety?// Highlights:“Being lonely, stressed, sad, or anxious doesn’t mean we are not strong. It just means we need to be loved.” —Bonnie Gray“We try to feel better by thinking our way out of stress, but we need to nurture our way to relieve stress.” —Bonnie Gray“Research shows that taking a ten minute walk outside lowers cortisol and releases the happy hormone serotonin more than 45 minutes working out at the gym.”—Bonnie Gray// Question of the Week:What is your go-to TV genre?
// Do the Next Thing:That soul care quiz? HereHer book? HereOur HIMH Pod FB Group? HereContact us? https://www.youtube.com/@wcsgradio -
Ya’ll. This episode.
It could put language to some things some of us have been holding onto for too long. How? Author and scholar Zach Wagner, author of ‘Non-Toxic Masculinity,’ unpacks:
What is toxic masculinity?How does it relate to Purity Culture?How did Purity Culture affect both men and women?How can men and women approach each other with a gospel lens instead of a sexual-threat lens?How do we process the science (or is it even science?) that men are more visual than women?How can men (and women) heal from what was taught?If you wonder if you have been affected by Purity Culture in any way, this episode may be for you.
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“It is not male to be sexual. It is human to be sexual.” —Zachary Wagner“Purity culture was overly formulaic in its thinking about human sexuality and relationships. It’s just ‘Do this, do this, and do this, and you’ll get a good result.’ But that’s just not how life works in a broken world.” —Zachary Wagner“What is toxic masculinity? The way I define it is that it is a way of living out your male embodiment that dehumanizes yourself and/or others.” —Zachary Wagner“As well intentioned as these resources were [such as ‘Every Man’s Battle’], I fear that they sometimes created a self-fulfilling prophecy where a toxic version of masculinity from the broader culture (the stereotype that ‘men only think about one thing’) was … baptized and Christianized. It turned into, ‘That is how God made men.’ Not something that men should mature out of.” —Zachary Wagner“I don’t think we should be telling young men, ‘Hey, you’re visual. That’s just how it goes!’ You should say, ‘Hey, if you find yourself visually sinning against other people, you need to stop treating them like objects and start treating them like humans.’” —Zachary Wagner// Question of the Week:
Is there a time of day you seem to always look at the clock? What time is that? Why do you think you look at the clock at that time every day?
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Find Zachary’s book hereYou can find all of his work hereHe is also onTwitter/X and Instagram at @ZacharyCWagnerYou can watch the episode hereListen to an episode that has views from a women's perspective with Rachel Joy Welcher here -
How would you pastor a congregation filled with a range of people from academics to farmers, and then walk them through the human sexuality conversation?
Pastor Aaron Henning, lead pastor at State College Alliance Church in Pennsylvania, tells us how engaged the topic with a congregation that was and is exactly that makeup.
How did he do it?What did he learn?How did fear interplay with his preaching?How did it go?Join us on our third and last in our courageous pastors series to hear how you can encourage yourself or a pastor-friend in engaging this important conversation.
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“You can easily create a position and then wall off that position. You can say, ‘This is who we are and the rest of the world can go to heck.’ You can do that, but that’s not being on mission.” —Aaron Henning“We have smart people in our congregation. I really wanted to be prepared to speak intelligently, and to be able to present views that are defensible and embraceable and make sense: ‘Why do you draw this line here instead of here?’” —Aaron Henning“There were a lot of people saying, ‘This is everywhere, it is all around me. I do not feel equipped. I do not know how to have a spiritual conversation, and I definitely don’t know how how to have a missional conversation with somebody who wouldn’t think like me or who isn’t a follower of Jesus.’” —Aaron Henning// Question of the Week:
What is the best pen to write with? (You guys . . . lol: “I’ve been waiting my whole life for this question.”)
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That Barna study? Find it hereJoin the HIMH Podcast FB Group hereWatch the episode here -
Today we continue our Courageous Pastors series by interviewing Tom Kang, a lead pastor in Los Angeles, CA, on how he led his congregation through the human sexuality conversation.
Additionally, we explore:
What is unique about Tom’s West Coast church and their cultural vibe?How can pastors cascade the human sexuality conversation to all of their leaders in a realistic way?Why did he choose a dialogue over a monologue?How did it go? (How many people walked out, and how many were grateful?)What would he say to a pastor considering preaching about this topic?This series has been encouraging us deeply. We pray it is doing the same for you and your community!
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“Everyone was having this [human sexuality] conversation anyway—in the lunchroom, in the locker rooms, in the car rides on the way to school. This conversation was happening everywhere—except church. I asked myself, ‘What’s happening? What’s going on there?’” —Tom Kang“Andy Stanley talks about how the church should be the safest place for any conversation. I remember when I first heard that a few years ago, and I thought, ‘That is so true, but that is so not going on.’” —Tom Kang“Everyone is going to walk away somehow offended. You are not going to be liberal enough, and you are not going to be conservative enough. You are not going to be biblical enough, you are not going to be contextual enough. You need to come to terms with that.” —Tom Kang“You’re going to have to roll up your sleeves if you’re going to do a sermon like this.” —Tom Kang// Question of the Week:
What chore in your home is visible to you but invisible to your spouse/housemates? (So you end up doing it and they don’t?) Sorry for all of the fights this sparked @ everyone heh heh... ;)
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Listen to Tom’s dialogue-focused sermon series hereGet a Salt Rifle (for bugs) lol hereThat $7 drain cleaner the guys were freaking out about? Find it here lolWatch the episode here! -
We are so excited about this:
Today, we are launching a mini-series interviewing three pastors from the South, the West Coast, and the East Coast on how they went from conceptualization of a sermon series on human sexuality to actualization. Why?
In 2019, Barna shared the results of a study that said three of the top four things pastors feel both pressured and limited to speak on are related to human sexuality.
If pastors feel so limited and yet pressured to speak on this, how in the world do they do it? Instead of hypothesizing, we put the microphone in front of three pastors who did it.
First up: A pastor from the U.S. South, Dr. Josh Laxton. We ask him:
What is unique about his culture (he is from the South but currently preaches in central Florida)?What was the conversation like within his church to prompt the sermon series?How did he prepare his leadership team?What elements were critical to have within the sermon? Why?How did it go?//Highlights:
“One of the reasons why people inside the church or outside the church have a difficult time digesting what pastors say is how they approach saying it: They don’t approach [challenging topics] with tears.” —Josh Laxton“Through the 2000-year history of the church marriage, family, gender and sexuality has always been primary [doctrine] but because of the cultural context was what it was you didn’t even think about it. But now that we are living in this post-Christian, post-Christendom type of culture now we have to clarify: This is what we’ve always believed.” —Josh Laxton“I know that the call to pastoral ministry is not only the call to know the power of Jesus’ resurrection, but to participate in his suffering... Part of that suffering is leading through very tough and messy issues and situations.” —Josh Laxton//Question of the Week:
What is your nickname and how did you get it?
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Hear the sermon Josh preached hereThat Barna study? Find it hereHear Laurie and Josh’s conversation about his sermon on *his* podcast hereFind more about Josh here: www.Joshlaxton.com or on his IG: Joshlaxton1Join the episode conversation on FB hereWatch the episode on YouTube here -
We get questions related to this topic often.
Parents and disciple-makers of young kids are understandably anxious and wondering; How can we guide kids in a way that makes them both courageously truthful and loving?
Pastor and author, Sam Allberry, comes back on the show to help us answer discipleship questions based on his new children’s book on marriage, ‘God’s Signpost.’ In addition to questions about teaching kids about marriage, Sam unpacks:
What are Christians doing poorly when it comes to engaging gender/sexuality/marriage?What are we doing well?What did Sam need from his Christian community while growing up in order to thrive today?How should we talk to a teen (or tween) who wants us to use their preferred pronouns? How should we biblically consider pronoun-usage in our workplaces and places of worship?//Highlights:
“If we start with the prohibitions [about marriage]; it’s very hard to make it seem like we are talking about something good.” —Sam Allberry“The redefinition of marriage wasn’t when we turned it into a same-sex thing. The redefinition of marriage happened when we turned it from a covenant into a contract.” —Sam Allberry“We must ensure that the relational quality of our church life is such that a young person growing up in church does not feel like their happiness rests on their marital status.” —Sam Allberry//Question of the Week:
What non-word-word do you use often, and what is your definition of it?
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Here is Sam’s new children’s book!We mention a Christianity Today article on pronoun usage hereAnnnnd, we were right. We have interviewed Sam two other times. :) Here are the other two episodes:Seven ways to navigate a sexually shifting culture hereWhat God has to say about our bodies hereWatch the full episode through WCSG hereJoin the conversation about the episode here! -
Moving forward can feel terrifying: Like we are jumping out of an airplane and we don’t know if we have a parachute. Why does it feel that way?
Today, author, multi-ministry founder, and teacher, Christine Caine, joins us to answer this question as well as:
What happened to us in Covid that made us extra afraid of moving forward?Why is moving forward not automatically betraying or ignoring our pasts?How do we know when it’s time to move on? What if we feel we have to do penance for past sin? How can we move on from that?How does cancel culture play a role in this?//Highlights:
“Fixating on your past with a desire to go back is very different than facing your past in order to move forward.” --Christine Caine“The blood of Jesus does not give us amnesia, but it does give us a life beyond our past.” --Christine Caine“Trust what you know about God more than what you don’t know about the future.” --Christine Caine//Question of the Week:
What are you dumb at? ;) (This was one of our best questions so far IMHO lololol)
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Get Christine’s book hereListen to our previous episode together, “How Not to Give Up,” hereLearn more about Propel + Wheaton Master’s hereJoin our HIMH Pod FB Group here -
Today on the podcast, ministry leader Brenna Blain joins us to help us discern how, when, and where to share our own stories with others.
Together, we unpack:
How do you know when you are ready to share?What was Brenna’s most challenging audience to share with?What are the benefits and challenges to opening up?//Highlights:
“The question I have not always gone to but I need to go to is, ‘Why? Why do I feel I need to share this or want to share this? Is it because I want attention?’… Or is it that I truly feel like God is asking me to share this, and then I need to work out what parts of this story am I supposed to share and in what context?” —Brenna Blain“It’s a little bit cliché, but [one of the biggest benefits for me in sharing my story] is getting to be the voice I wish I had heard growing up. I wish so badly I had heard from someone who was same-sex attracted who clung to a biblical sexual ethic. I wish it so badly.” —Brenna Blain“Sometimes, I just need to sit and say, ‘Do I believe that God knows what he is doing? Do I believe that he is faithful even if his faithfulness means keeping a door closed to me?’” —Brenna Blain//Question of the Week:
Are you a pumpkin-spice-everything, can’t-wait-to-put-on-a-sweater person about fall? Or nah? (You guys have a lot of feelings about pumpkin spice and sweaters lolol)
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Listen to when Laurie was on Brenna’s podcast hereFollow Brenna on IG hereSteve mentions this episode where we talk about our hunger for authentic community hereWatch the video of this episode here -
It’s the season seven launch!!
We are so glad to be back with you all, and are equally glad to engage last season’s identity theme one more time to ensure we take it from the ethereal to the practical. The person here to help us do this is the author of ‘Finding Your Best Identity’ and ministry leader, Andrew Bunt.
Andrew joins the team today to talk about:
How can we know which parts of us are the true us, and which are not?Is sexual identity and gender identity core to who we are?How can we engage the world’s mantra of “Listen to your heart” to know who you are?How can we engage the world’s other mantra of “Let others define who you are”?//Highlights:
“Questions of sexuality and gender . . . have become so tied to identity in the cultural context around us that when people hear--that out of faithfulness to Jesus--I am choosing not to have a relationship with another man, people say, ‘Well, isn’t God asking you to deny who you really are?’ It’s seen as so core to identity . . . it’s considered bad news for somebody like me.” —Andrew Bunt
“We are who God says we are. This actually frees us from defining ourselves by what we feel inside or defining ourselves based on the opinions of others.” —Andrew Bunt
“I define identity as ‘our controlling self understanding.’” —Andrew Bunt
“My sexuality describes me. I am attracted to other guys. I am same-sex attracted, gay, whatever language you want to use. I am not denying that. I am not ashamed of that. . . . But that describes part of my experience. It doesn’t define me. What defines me is that I have been adopted by God as his child.” —Andrew Bunt
//Question of the Week:
What was (or is) your favorite school supply? (You guys sure love some Lisa Frank! Lol)
//Do the Next Thing:
Find Andrew’s book hereJoin the HIMH Podcast FB Group hereYou can watch the episode here -
“I think there are reasons we deny our pain including that we can are overwhelmed (‘Where do I start?’), the fear of ‘This will make things worse”… Or, we don’t have he community around us to help us process.” --Steve O'Dell
Today, as only the Holy Spirit can do, these first three Shorts episodes link together. So today, we continue our accidental theme of "Spiritual practices that help us to become real" with Steve talking about why we avoid pain.
Additionally, we talk about:
How can we become people who can walk with others in challenging places?What is the cost of not engaging these painful places?What is the first step toward feeling these hard parts of our hearts?We also talk about these lament episodes here
And talk about Healing Care
Join us?
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“One thing I have learned about Jesus is that He wants to sit in uncomfortable emotions with me [Heb. 4:15]. If I am not willing to sit in these emotions, then how is He supposed to sit in them--with me?” --Matt Krieg
Oh, dear, wise Matt. Today on HIMH Shorts (where we toss around the host table, “How has the gospel been good news for you lately?), Matt brings up his topic of emotional resilience…
What is it?How can we know when it’s time to move on from a negative emotion?How can we know if we need to stay in the suffering longer?We’d love for you to join the conversation.
And after? Feel free to tell us what you think on the FB group here
On IG here
Or email us! [email protected]
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Heyyyyy!!!
We may be in-between seasons, but we missed you all so much we wanted to drop three, surprise mini-episodes for the next three Fridays!!
In HIMH Shorts, Matt, Laurie, and Steve will host brief (heh heh, we will try!), one-topic conversations answering, "How has the gospel been good news for you lately?"
This week, Laurie is up! She heard YOUR requests for a walk-through of her Episode 202 practice of The Bookshelves.
What is that practice?Why does she do it?How has it impacted her? (And does Matt do it, too? lol)Kick back, lay back (if you want to do the practice with us), and join the crew as Laurie shares her nightly practice that has been deepening her identity in the love of Jesus.
P.S. Do you like these mini-episodes? Should we keep them up?
Let us know by messaging Laurie on IG (laurie_krieg) or emailing us at [email protected]
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