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What to listen for:
“You’re putting so much pressure on yourself, and that’s impacting your dog.”
Today, our hosts Robin Greubel, Stacy Barnett, and Crystal Wing chat about what they’ve been up to lately, including their recent experience at the Muscatatuck Open, a high-level canine detection seminar known for its complex scent theory drills and immersive training.
They discuss how the seminar’s intense setups—with full-body donor work, long-term odor problems, and unique hide placements—challenged both handlers and dogs in ways that left a lasting impact.
Robin juggled certification tests and a 10-week-old Labrador while Crystal flew straight from early retirement into the dog training world’s version of a dream tour!
The Dames of Detection reflect on the Muscatatuck seminar: a high-level, all-inclusive training camp that delivered not just technically, but mentally and emotionally, as well.
Muscatatuck was a series of complex challenges—from scent voids and convergence hides to managing large source odors. It was, as one student put it, transformational.
Crystal, still raw from leaving her teaching career, shares how her pressure-sensitive dog Radish mirrored her inner state, teaching her the value of emotional regulation in handling. Stacy, working a freshly postpartum dog, found reassurance in her dog’s ability to locate a full-body aid, critical for live-find dogs deployed in unpredictable search-and-rescue scenarios.
Key Topics:
Postpartum Puppy Drama & Emergency Care (04:36)General Impressions of Muscatatuck (10:15)Using Full Body Donors to Train Live-Find Dogs (22:30)Muscatatuck’s Multi-Day Scent Theory Challenges (25:34)Favorite “Aha” Moments from Instructors & Students (32:19)Competitive Searches, Training on Burned Fields, and Real-World Aids (43:43)Resources:
Save the Date for K9Sensus @MUTC 2026 -- May 28-Jun 1, 2026Suncoast ForensicsLink to the Study about human scentEpisodes featuring Lauryn DeGreeffDistraction Camp EpisodesWe want to hear from you:
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Robin Greubel and Crystal Wing return with the brilliant Katylynn Sloan for part two of their conversation on the intersection between chemistry and K9 detection!
“Train with as much variety as often as you can, in the weirdest of circumstances you can possibly get to, with as many groups and as many people as you can.”
Katylynn dives into one of the most misunderstood topics in the detection world: training aids. She breaks down why the term “pseudo” is falling out of favor, replaced by “alternative training aids,” and classifies them into four types: dilution, absorption, mimic, and vigilance. Each has its pros and pitfalls. Mimics, for instance, rely on human interpretation of what’s important for a dog to smell—sometimes right, sometimes not. And vigilance aids? They’re about maintaining search behavior, not the odor itself.
Katylynn also emphasizes the importance of language. As a member of standards boards like ASB and OSAC, she helps shape definitions so handlers, trainers, and scientists are all speaking the same language in courtrooms and classrooms alike. It’s not just about what you know, but how clearly you can explain it. Her advice to aspiring canine scientists? Master problem-solving, communication, and the humility to say, “I don’t know.”
She also touches on the challenges of HRD training, the evolving definitions of “real” odor, and how even “duh” science needs to be written down. Her message to handlers? Train broadly. Generalization is key. Get variety in odors, people, places, and aids—because you never know what the real world will throw at your dog.
Dogs are really good. But they’re even better when guided by thoughtful, curious humans willing to adapt, collaborate, and learn. Katylynn’s passion isn’t just informative—it’s contagious.
Key Topics:
Revising Standards and Defining "Real" Odor (0:59)Introduction to Alternative Training Aids (03:27)Mimics and Human Interpretation in Training Aids (07:30)Applying Dilution/Absorption Concepts to HRD (15:14)Public Comment Process and Impact on Standards (17:18)Skills and Traits for Aspiring K9 Scientists (22:53)Final Takeaways: Variety, Generalization, and Collaboration (39:52)Resources:
The manipulation of odor availability of training aids used in detection canine trainingAAFS Academy Standards BoardLindsay Waldrop's LabWe want to hear from you:
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“The dogs are so good at what they do, it’s brain-boggling.”
Today, 2/3 of our hosts, Robin Greubel and Crystal Wing, welcome Katylynn Sloan, a chemist with the U.S. Secret Service, to explore the eye-opening intersection of science and canine detection work.
With a PhD in chemistry and years in explosives research, Katylynn brings a fresh lens to how odor behaves, how dogs detect it, and why context matters. She explains how high vapor pressure substances like nitroglycerin contaminate everything they touch, and why containment protocols must evolve.
From calibrating training aids to understanding the unexpected behavior of odor in vehicles, Katylynn stresses the importance of operational realism. Dogs, she explains, learn expectations. If training doesn’t reflect real-world scenarios—like suicide vests or buried explosives—dogs might miss critical cues. She calls for more collaborative studies in generalization, where the difference in one chemical compound might be enough for a dog to disregard an otherwise familiar substance.
Katylynn’s insights aren't just academic—they’re actionable. She champions “train how you operate,” emphasizes the need for diverse training aids, and highlights the gaps in disciplines like HRD, narcotics, and electronics detection. Most importantly, she reminds us: dogs are really good. But it’s the handlers—those who know their dog’s tail twitch or sniff shift means something—that bring science to life.
Science and scent don’t compete. They collaborate. And as Katylynn shows, better understanding leads to smarter training and safer communities. Tune in next time for part two of this fascinating conversation with Katylynn!
Key Topics:
Katylynn Sloan’s Career Journey (0:01:25)Changes to the Explosive Standard (0:08:17)What Handlers Need to Know About Training Aids with High Vapor Pressure (0:14:15)Areas in K9 Detection That Warrant Further Research (0:34:15)“Train How You Operate” (0:50:01)Most Common Handler Misconceptions About How Dogs Detect Odors (0:57:50)Resources:
The manipulation of odor availability of training aids used in detection canine trainingAAFS Academy Standards BoardLindsay Waldrop's LabWe want to hear from you:
Check out the K9 Detection Collaborative FB page and comment on the episode post!K9Sensus Detection Dog Trainer AcademyK9Sensus Foundation can be found on Facebook and Instagram. We have a Trainer’s Group on Facebook!Scentsabilities Nosework is also on Facebook. Here is a Facebook group you should join!Crystal Wing (CB K9) can be found here!You can follow us for notifications of upcoming episodes, find us at k9detectioncollaborative.com -
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"To truly understand your dog, embrace the power of observation, question the environment, and engage with the nuances of their behavior."
Our hosts, Robin Greubel, Crystal Wing, and Stacy Barnett, take a deep dive into the role of critical thinking for handlers.
We’ve all been there—reading a viral dog training post and feeling an emotional gut-punch, or second-guessing ourselves after watching a training video. We need to learn to slow down, analyze, and ask better questions. Robin emphasizes watching videos without sound to assess the clarity of intent. Crystal introduces her favorite training reflection game: pause and predict. And Stacy reflects on how questioning cues—like saying “drop”—led to big lightbulb moments in her own training.
Our hosts share how truly understanding what (and why) you’re training builds better habits and stronger bonds between handler and dog. Whether it’s breaking down complex skills like a retrieve into more manageable pieces or recognizing how forward motion might unintentionally reinforce barking, it’s all about peeling back the layers.
The Dames of Detection look into how fear-based language can cloud judgment, and how to filter training advice by considering the source, the context, and your own dog’s needs. Crystal encourages following trainers with different views to stretch your thinking. Robin adds that respectful, private conversations often lead to deeper clarity than public debates.
Most importantly, critical thinking is a skill, not a fixed trait. Like any skill, it improves with practice. So whether you’re evaluating a post, adjusting a cue, or watching your dog’s body language, stay curious. Be open. Ask questions.
In the end, sharper thinking leads to stronger training, and your dog feels the difference.
Key Topics:
“What Exactly Are You Training in This Video?” (00:00)Focus on the Message You’re Trying to Teach (08:55)What Stops Trainers from Thinking Critically? (14:46)The Problem with Fear-Based Training (19:14)What Happens to Your Dog Training Without Critical Thinking? (24:02)Avoid Close-Mindedness and Preconceived Notions (33:40)The Power of Active Listening (39:01)Overcoming Analysis Paralysis (45:44)“It Depends on the Dog.” (50:07)Takeaways (54:19)We want to hear from you:
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In the third part of the series on consistency, our hosts Robin Greubel, Stacy Barnett, and Crystal Wing dive deeper into what makes consistency such a challenge—and how to truly make it work in real life.
Staying consistent isn’t just about following a routine. It’s about self-awareness, emotion management, and breaking behaviors down into manageable slices.
The Dames of Detection get real about how emotions, fatigue, scheduling, and even peer pressure can all derail our best intentions. From setting tiny goals to using physical cues like a leash by the door or a pre-loaded treat pouch, the key theme is this: Make it easier to succeed.
Consistency doesn’t mean perfection. It means being predictable for your dog, building routines that support success, and giving yourself permission to make it messy and human. Want to be more consistent? Slice your goals thinner, check in with yourself often, and let progress, not perfection, be the aim.
Key Topics:
Stacy, Robin, and Crystal Reflect on Their Paths to Training Consistency (00:00)Building Self-Awareness (06:58)Why Your Emotional State During Training Sessions Matters (15:19)Finding the Right Training Environment for Consistency (25:24)What Keeps Handlers from Staying Consistent (29:32)“Pick One Thing!” (35:28)Check In with Yourself (47:33)Takeaways (50:17)Resources:
K9 Detection Collaborative Ep 54: Canine Handler Fitness with Liz JoyceK9 Detection Collaborative Episodes 72, 73, 74 with Jens FrankK9 Detection Collaborative Episodes on Consistency - Part 1, Part 2K9 Detection Collaborative Ep 8: Dealing with Post Certification or Competition Mental ExhaustionRokForm Phone CasesWe want to hear from you:
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In the second part of the series on consistency, our hosts Robin Greubel, Stacy Barnett, and Crystal Wing take a closer look at the mechanics of consistency, from creating intentional setup signals to reinforcing behaviors for longevity! You’ve probably heard about marker timing and reinforcement. Today, our hosts take a fresh look at the finer details—like how you stand, where you point your toes, and even the words you use when training your dog to shape new behaviors.
The Dames of Detection chat about how good mechanics aren’t just about doing something with your hands—it’s about reading your dog and being intentional about your own patterns so your canine partner can read you. From how you cue a start to what gear you’re wearing or how you hold your body, everything sets the stage for what your dog expects.
Wrapping up, our hosts discuss reinforcement zones, chasing toys vs food, and how where you reward matters just as much as what you reward. The bottom line? Clean, consistent mechanics help dogs learn faster and clearer. So, before you blame the dog, check your cues—clarity starts with you! Tune in next time for part three of this series on consistency in dog training!
Key Topics:
Why Mechanics Are Underappreciated (00:00)Start Signals and Setup Mechanics (03:37)Why Sit Down When Shaping a Behavior? (12:02)Choosing Your Action Words Intentionally (16:47)From Consistency to Reinforcement (26:52)“Where You Reinforce is Just as Important as What You Reinforce!” (31:05)“What is Making the Dog Click?” (38:38)Predatory Modal Action Patterns (40:34)Knowing When and Where NOT to Reinforce (47:05)Resources:
Kynotalk by Kynotec Podcast Ep 77: Jens Frank “successive approximation”K9 Detection Collaborative Ep 135: Consistency in Dog Training Pt 1K9 Detection Collaborative Ep’s 129, 130, 131 with Denise FenziWe want to hear from you:
Check out the K9 Detection Collaborative FB page and comment on the episode post!K9Sensus Detection Dog Trainer AcademyK9Sensus Foundation can be found on Facebook and Instagram. We have a Trainer’s Group on Facebook!Scentsabilities Nosework is also on Facebook. Here is a Facebook group you should join!Crystal Wing (CB K9) can be found here!You can follow us for notifications of upcoming episodes, find us at k9detectioncollaborative.com -
What to listen for:
“You’re constantly writing and rewriting a contract with your dog.”
Today, our hosts Robin Greubel, Stacy Barnett, and Crystal Wing tackle the power of consistency, the pitfalls of “lumpy” training, and why even small slip-ups can throw your dog off track. They break down how to build a rock-solid training environment and avoid the hidden traps that sabotage progress.
“The clearer and more predictable you are, the faster your dog will learn.”
Our hosts swap real-life stories about cue associations—the good, the bad, and the hilarious. From verbal missteps to accidental signals, they reveal how tiny inconsistencies can shape (or derail) your dog’s responses. Whether you’re training a pet or a working dog, clear communication is everything.
“Inconsistent timing leads to inconsistent outcomes.”
And for the sport and search-and-rescue trainers out there, this episode digs deep into the power of precision and clarity when it comes to reinforcing behaviors. The Dames of Detection challenge quick-fix mentalities, explore discipline-specific mindsets, and make the case for mastering the mechanics that take training to the next level. Tune in next time for part two of this three-part series on consistency in dog training!
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Why is Consistency Important? (00:00)Using Inconsistency Strategically to Highlight Contrast in Your Training (09:18)Different Forms of Consistency (14:05)“Accidental” Consistency (24:06)How Timing Impacts Consistency (25:58)Behaviors: Observe, Mark, Pause, Reward (42:00)Reinforcement of Mechanics Requires Precision and Clarity (48:16)Resources:
Decoding Trainer Lingo (image)K9 Detection Collaborative Ep 11: The D’s of Detection WorkK9 Detection Collaborative Ep 134: How Do I Pick My Criteria?K9 Detection Collaborative Ep 133: Getting the Most Out of Virtual CoachingWe want to hear from you:
Check out the K9 Detection Collaborative FB page and comment on the episode post!K9Sensus Detection Dog Trainer AcademyK9Sensus Foundation can be found on Facebook and Instagram. We have a Trainer’s Group on Facebook!Scentsabilities Nosework is also on Facebook. Here is a Facebook group you should join!Crystal Wing (CB K9) can be found here!You can follow us for notifications of upcoming episodes, find us at k9detectioncollaborative.com -
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Training your dog to adhere to your criteria consistently is not a cut-and-dry process. It’s one of the trickiest balancing acts in dog training: when to hold the line and when to make adjustments within behavior chains.
“Consistency is not about perfection, but predictability.”
Dog handling, whether for sport or operational detection, is both an art and a science–which means embracing flexibility and precision in equal measure. Our hosts, Robin Greubel, Stacy Barnett, and Crystal Wing outline their best strategies for deciding on your dog’s foundational behaviors according to their respective strengths, and knowing when to make tweaks as you build upon them.
“Your criteria is a conversation, not a contract.”
Our hosts break down the three keys to maintaining a complex behavior chain in various scenarios: clarity, consistency, and flexibility. By using these three as your anchor points as a handler, you’ll set yourself and your dog up for success in any scenario.
“Temporary adjustment is not the same as a permanent compromise.”
The Dames of Detection also look into tailoring techniques to individual dogs and handlers. Because a one-size-fits-all approach simply doesn't work, our hosts stress the importance of balancing fun with the need to address potential long-term behavior issues.
By understanding each dog's personality and recognizing which stimuli fail to align with their intended behaviors early on, you can quickly nip problems in the bud and reinforce behavior chains more efficiently than before!
Key Topics:
What is Being Judged? (03:48)Clarity, Consistency, Flexibility (12:50)Deciding On Your Must-Have Behavior (18:10)Criteria as Conversation (30:00)Training Low-Drive Dogs (32:54)Strengthening Long Chains of Complex Behavior (37:09)Adapting Criteria to Your Dog’s Personality and Strengths (43:53)Key Takeaways (50:50)We want to hear from you:
Check out the K9 Detection Collaborative FB page and comment on the episode post!K9Sensus Detection Dog Trainer AcademyK9Sensus Foundation can be found on Facebook and Instagram. We have a Trainer’s Group on Facebook!Scentsabilities Nosework is also on Facebook. Here is a Facebook group you should join!Crystal Wing K9 Coach can be found here at CB K9 on Facebook + Instagram and here at Evolution Working Dog Club. Also, check out her Functional Obedience Class here.You can follow us for notifications of upcoming episodes, find us at k9detectioncollaborative.com to enjoy the freebies, and tell your friends so you can keep the conversations going.Jingle by: www.mavericksings.com
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Today in K9 Detection Collaborative, our hosts Robin Greubel, Stacy Barnett, and Crystal Wing discuss the keys to successful virtual training.
“Virtual coaching is student-driven. Anything propelled by student drive, drives results.”
Making the switch from in-person to online coaching can be a tough sell for many. But as our hosts explain, there can be many limitations to your growth as a handler when you confine yourself to local training sessions.
“When you’re stuck in your local area, your access to truly top instructors is limited.”
That said, virtual learning isn't without its hurdles, especially for those who feel self-conscious on camera or yearn for hands-on instruction. But, as the Dames of Detection remind us, that’s mostly a matter of time–you will get used to communicating on camera the more you do it!
At the end of the day, the pros far outweigh the cons. Among other things, you get access to the best of the best, and can even receive personalized training plans from them. Online training truly opens new doors, allowing us to juggle busy schedules, balance personal commitments, and continue our passion for K9 education, even while on the road!
Key Topics:
The Benefits of Virtual Coaching (03:19)What if You Prefer In-Person Training? (10:27)How Online Classes Connect You with Top Instructors (14:32)Private Versus Group Classes (18:20)What Allows Students to Thrive During Virtual Sessions? (25:56)Using the “Phone a Friend” Option as a Powerful Follow-Up Tool (29:51)Secrets to a Successful Group Live Session (44:27)Our Parting Advice to Virtual Coaches and Students (51:02)Resources:
Coaching Communities:
Robin GreubelStacy Barnett: Coaching Community, Video ConsultsCrystal WingWe want to hear from you:
Check out the K9 Detection Collaborative FB page and comment on the episode post!K9Sensus Detection Dog Trainer AcademyK9Sensus Foundation can be found on Facebook and Instagram. We have a Trainer’s Group on Facebook!Scentsabilities Nosework is also on Facebook. Here is a Facebook group you should join!Crystal Wing K9 Coach can be found here at CB K9 on Facebook + Instagram and here at Evolution Working Dog Club. Also, check out her Functional Obedience Class here.You can follow us for notifications of upcoming episodes, find us at k9detectioncollaborative.com to enjoy the freebies, and tell your friends so you can keep the conversations going. -
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Our hosts Robin, Stacy, and Crystal tackle not just the technical, but also the legal considerations of cross-training your dogs. After all, when a dog is run through both narcotics and explosives detection work and engaged in a high-stakes operation, the consequences can be disastrous if they are unable to respond to the right odors on time–simply because their training emphasizes diversity over specialization.
At the same time, if done strategically, it is possible to cross-train in order to supplement detection ability, rather than cause frustration as odors compete in the field.
But it’s not just your dog’s interests and strengths that you have to consider, but your own as a handler as well. The Dames of Detection invite us to find our “why” when thinking about cross-training our canine. We need to consider our particular skill set and career goals before adding more training to our plate.
Are you more interested in athletics and competition, or are you dedicated exclusively to search-and-rescue? Are you focused on live or cadaver search? These elements all play a role in the decision to cross-train a dog!
Key Topics:
Can a Dog Do All The Things? (00:00)Cross-Training in a Way That Avoids Putting Odors in Competition (12:39)Knowing Your Why (21:55)Cross-Training Your Dog for Live and Cadaver Search (37:17)How to Use Cross-Training to Complement Your Interests and Abilities as a Handler (47:29)Resources:
K9 Detection Collaborative Episode 54: Canine Handler Fitness with Liz JoyceK9 Detection Collaborative Episode 56: Talking K9 Fitness with Bobbie LyonsK9 Detection Collaborative Episode 81: Talking Nutrition, Fitness, and Training with Ronny LeJeuneK9 Detection Collaborative Episode 40: K9 Cross Training: What Else We Do with Our DogsWe want to hear from you:
Check out the K9 Detection Collaborative FB page and comment on the episode post!K9Sensus Detection Dog Trainer AcademyK9Sensus Foundation can be found on Facebook and Instagram. We have a Trainer’s Group on Facebook!Scentsabilities Nosework is also on Facebook. Here is a Facebook group you should join!Crystal Wing K9 Coach can be found here at CB K9 on Facebook + Instagram and here at Evolution Working Dog Club. Also, check out her Functional Obedience Class here.You can follow us for notifications of upcoming episodes, find us at k9detectioncollaborative.com -
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Our hosts, Robin Greubel, Stacy Barnett, and Crystal Wing, reflect on their recent two-part conversation with Denise Fenzi and her strategies for ensuring steady, measurable progress when training your dog.
“Learning is a fragile place. Being correct is a reward in itself.”
Denise is a staunch advocate for finding your compass—a guiding principle that does wonders not just in your career as a handler, but in your personal life as well. This, along with understanding that learning requires humility, is key to navigating the chain of complex behaviors your dog goes through in the field.
“If you want your dog’s behavior to change, you have to change yours first.”
Self-reflection was another key theme in their chat with Denise, who explained that successful handlers see vulnerability as a superpower when training their dog. That’s why it’s important to track progress not just by skills learned but by demeanor as well. And as you monitor that progress, Denise encourages going for slow, gradual tweaks to prevent overwhelm.
Finally, the Dames of Detection give their take on Denise’s philosophy around repetition and rewards. In particular, they break down the power of structuring your training around five repetitions per command, and why it pays to embrace creativity and pattern interrupts when your training hits a slump.
Key Topics:
Find Your Compass (02:06)Learning is a Fragile Place (09:13)The Value of Self-Reflection (14:03)The Power of Minor Tweaks (21:53)What to Know About Repetition in Training (29:12)Don’t Be Afraid of Trying Something New (42:25)“Let’s Go!”: A Case Study (50:10)Upcoming Events and Happenings! (53:00)Resources:
Fenzi Dog Sports Academy WebinarsK9Sensus @MUTCK9Sensus Detection Dog Trainer AcademyMilitary Working Dog SymposiumATK9We want to hear from you:
Check out the K9 Detection Collaborative FB page and comment on the episode post!K9Sensus Detection Dog Trainer AcademyK9Sensus Foundation can be found on Facebook and Instagram. We have a Trainer’s Group on Facebook!Scentsabilities Nosework is also on Facebook. Here is a Facebook group you should join!Crystal Wing K9 Coach can be found here at CB K9 on Facebook + Instagram and here at Evolution Working Dog Club. Also, check out her Functional Obedience Class here.You can follow us for notifications of upcoming episodes, find us at k9detectioncollaborative.com to enjoy the freebies, and tell your friends so you can keep the conversations going. -
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In part two of their discussion with the brilliant Denise Fenzi, our hosts Robin Greubel and Crystal Wing explore the delicate dance between striving for precision and cherishing the quirks of canine behavior!
“Your dog has to have a lot of ‘want to.’ If they don’t have a lot of ‘want to,’ they’re not the right dog for the job.”
Denise explains why picking the right dog for the job from the get-go is foundational to success. When you bring a dog with the right desire to the table, your job as a handler–controlling and shaping that desire–becomes much easier.
She also talks about identifying essential behaviors like a reliable whistle recall and advocates for a training philosophy driven by motivation and enthusiasm rather than obligation. She tackles ethical dilemmas faced in high-pressure operations and tells us to always prioritize the well-being of both the dog and the handler.
Denise also discusses the controversial use of e-collars and the pursuit of perfect recall. She explores the sensitive topic of rehoming, advocating for it as a positive solution when there is a mismatch between the dog's needs and the owner's expectations.
“Leadership is about setting a path. You can’t take on a leadership position if you’re not willing to say unpopular things.”
Denise gives her thoughts on leadership and personal growth through the lens of dog training. Early socialization, adaptability, and setting boundaries are crucial themes in building confidence and respect in dogs.
Finally, Denise tells us why she believes dogs are being over-socialized today, and why she’s totally against doggie daycare for puppies!
Reinforcing Nonnegotiable Behaviors (02:28)Choosing the Right Dog for the Job (10:00)Rehoming Your Dog (22:05)Denise’s Thoughts on Negative Online Discourse (22:34)Setting Boundaries and Becoming a Better Leader (32:11)Giving Your Dog Freedom (43:05)Box Feeding (47:33)What’s Next for Denise? (55:30)Takeaways (58:22)
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Fenzi Dog Sports Academy
Resources:
Check out the K9 Detection Collaborative FB page and comment on the episode post!K9Sensus Detection Dog Trainer AcademyK9Sensus Foundation can be found on Facebook and Instagram. We have a Trainer’s Group on Facebook!Scentsabilities Nosework is also on Facebook. Here is a Facebook group you should join!Crystal Wing K9 Coach can be found here at CB K9 and here at Evolution Working Dog Club. Also, check out her Functional Obedience Class here.You can follow us for notifications of upcoming episodes, find us at k9detectioncollaborative.com to enjoy the freebies, and tell your friends so you can keep the conversations going.
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What to listen for:
“If I cannot, in five repetitions, isolate a variable down and get it where I want it, I do need to stop. That doesn't mean the next time we'll be successful. What that tells me is, don't do the same thing again and again and again. And there's been a lot of variation. Isolate that variable. It looks good now. Put it back in a chain, it doesn't look good. What have I done wrong?”
In part one of this two-part discussion, Robin Greubel and Crystal Wing sit down with special guest Denise Fenzi, a trainer and educator who specializes in building cooperation, joy, and extreme precision in competition dog sports teams.
“Patterns lead to confidence. Unpredictable leads to listening.”
Famous for breaking down complex concepts into bite-sized lessons, Denise does a deep dive into a training philosophy that stresses adaptability and prioritizing the dog’s wellbeing. She discusses how to build your dog’s vocabulary via strategic repetition, as well as her approach to encouraging or disrupting behavioral patterns during training.
“The more ways you generalize the behavior, the better the dog gets at those behaviors.”
Denise shares why tools like choke chains and e-collars might be a thing of the past, and why tailored, humane options like aversives better enhance understanding and cooperation between you and your dog–which in turn fosters a bond built on trust and respect rather than pain and fear.
“A behavior chain is simply a bunch of behaviors strung together, so you have to get comfortable with degrees of messiness.”
Finally, Denise unravels the complexities of behavior chains and the balance between instinctual behaviors and structured learning. She walks us through the art of rewarding gradual progress and adapting training techniques to maintain a dog's confidence.
Key Topics:
Denise’s Training Methodology (06:29)Applying Micro Behaviors To Full Training Scenarios (20:22)Generalizing Behaviors (25:36)Drive Versus Arousal (35:27)Resources:
Fenzi Dog Sports AcademyWe want to hear from you:
Check out the K9 Detection Collaborative FB page and comment on the episode post!K9Sensus Detection Dog Trainer AcademyK9Sensus Foundation can be found on Facebook and Instagram. We have a Trainer’s Group on Facebook!Scentsabilities Nosework is also on Facebook. Here is a Facebook group you should join!Crystal Wing K9 Coach can be found here at CB K9 and here at Evolution Working Dog Club. Also, check out her Functional Obedience Class here.You can follow us for notifications of upcoming episodes, find us at k9detectioncollaborative.comJingle by: www.mavericksings.com
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Today, our hosts Robin Greubel, Stacy Barnett, and Crystal Wing reflect on key takeaways from their recent conversations with Diana Bunch, Jack Thorpe, and Annissia Justice – all expert handlers with a golden nugget or two (or 100s) around cadaver dog and disaster response training.
From avoiding the "ego hide" trap, to getting more out of nose time, to the importance of balancing motivation and frustration during training, our hosts explore the nuances of preparing dogs—and their handlers—for real-world challenges by preparing the training environment right from the get-go.
The Dames of Detection touch on the importance of scarcity and novelty in maintaining a dog's interest and drive. You’ll also get actionable tips on incorporating purposeful blanks into nose work and the importance of embracing unpredictability to better mimic real-life search and rescue scenarios.
They remind us to note your dog's unique personality and strengths, as well as the role of effective communication in bridging gaps between handlers and their canine partners.
Avoiding the “Ego Hide” Trap (02:45)Becoming Aware of Unintentional Distractions in Your Training Environment (12:29)Getting More Intentional with Nose Time by Using Blanks (20:29)Choosing a Search and Rescue Dog (24:31)Managing Time Constraints as a Nose Work Handler (36:45)Knowing How Much Your Dog Needs to Struggle in Training (43:42)Takeaways (48:44)
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K9 Detection Collaborative Ep 83: Kickin' Back with Christi RaakK9 Detection Collaborative Ep 72 and 73: Talking Arousal vs Drive and Selection of a Dog with Jens Frank (pt 1 and pt 2)NEW: K9Sensus Detection Dog Trainer AcademySee the info below for other happenings!
Resources:We want to hear from you:
Check out the K9 Detection Collaborative FB page and comment on the episode post!K9Sensus Detection Dog Trainer AcademyK9Sensus Foundation can be found on Facebook and Instagram. We have a Trainer’s Group on Facebook!Scentsabilities Nosework is also on Facebook. Here is a Facebook group you should join!Crystal Wing K9 Coach can be found here at CB K9 and here at Evolution Working Dog Club. Also, check out her Functional Obedience Class here.You can follow us for notifications of upcoming episodes, find us at k9detectioncollaborative.com -
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Today, 2/3 of the Dames of Detection - Stacy Barnett and Crystal Wing - are sitting down with special guest Diana Bunch, an Air Force veteran-turned-search and rescue trainer.
Diana shares her inspiring journey from the military to the world of disaster response, running through her various experiences in various search scenarios, from wilderness expeditions to urban disaster zones.
Our guest dives deep into the art and science of training search dogs, whether you’re a longtime expert looking to shake up your training, or a newcomer looking for the right community of handlers. Diana tells us how to build a dog's confidence through strategic exposure to distractions and varied environments. She talks reinforcement systems and finding the delicate balance between knowns, blinds, and blanks in refining your dog’s skills.
Diana also offers her take on the impact of environmental factors, such as wind and humidity, on a search-and-rescue dog's performance, and explains how handlers can pinpoint the ideal training schedule for their particular dog, and her best tips and strategies for nurturing a dog's natural instincts.
Key Topics:
Diana’s Disaster Response Experiences (06:20)Ensuring that You and Your Dog Are Fully Prepared for Wilderness and Disaster Work (12:23)Utilizing Knowns, Blinds, and Blanks (23:15)Breaking Training Plateaus (36:57)How to Get Involved in Search and Rescue Work (45:07)
Distraction Camp and Intentional Handling and Hide SettingIf you want to get involve in K9SAR work, here's a class from K9Sensus that you can takeDiana Bunch [email protected] SAR teamDiana's FB PostEpisodes with Emily Lawrence: 35, 36, 37
Resources:We want to hear from you:
Check out the K9 Detection Collaborative FB page and comment on the episode post!K9Sensus Foundation can be found on Facebook and Instagram. We have a Trainer’s Group on Facebook!Scentsabilities Nosework is also on Facebook. Here is a Facebook group you should join!Crystal Wing K9 Coach can be found here at CB K9 and here at Evolution Working Dog Club. Also, check out her Functional Obedience Class here.You can follow us for notifications of upcoming episodes, find us at k9detectioncollaborative.com -
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In the second part of the two-part discussion, our hosts, Stacy Barnett, and Crystal Wing, continue their interview with expert trainers Jack Thorpe and Annissia Justice. Drawing from their recent experience doing search and rescue in the aftermath of the floods brought on by Hurricane Doreen, our guests do a deep dive into their best tips and strategies around cadaver dog training.
“Blinds are the number one way to read your dog.”
Jack and Annissia discuss the keys to incorporating blanks and blinds into training routines. With the belief that “blinds are the number one way to read your dog,” they explain how these tools enhance handlers' abilities to distinguish between novel and target odors, which prepares them for real-world challenges by extension.
In order to keep your dog improving their skills and behaviors consistently, it’s also important to motivate them with a mix of rewards and games that keep things varied and stimulating.
Jack gives his thoughts on specialized HR dogs. From locating dementia patients or navigating crime scenes, he explains why the industry needs to up its game regarding certification standards.
Our guests also give their best advice for selecting and raising working dogs, encouraging us to nail the balance between the dog’s social nature and work ethic to suit our abilities as handlers.
All this and more in this special edition of K9 Detection Collaborative!
Key Topics:
Incorporating Blanks and Blinds in Your Training (01:04)Maintaining Consistency and Motivation with Games and Rewards (10:42)Specialization with HR Dogs (19:09)How Specialized Certifications Can Be Improved (24:44)How to Spot Fundraising Scams (26:45)Puddles, the Water Leak Detection Dog (34:55)Choosing a Search and Rescue Dog (42:07)Letting Your Puppy Be a Puppy! (47:40)Key Takeaways (52:10)Resources:
Find Annissia at Cultured Canine TrainingFind Jack at the North Carolina Trooper's Association K-9 Search and Recovery TeamMake sure to keep up with what Crystal, Stacy, and Robin are up to! (Links below!)We want to hear from you:
Check out the K9 Detection Collaborative FB page and comment on the episode post!K9Sensus Foundation can be found on Facebook and Instagram. We have a Trainer’s Group on Facebook!Scentsabilities Nosework is also on Facebook. Here is a Facebook group you should join!Crystal Wing K9 Coach can be found here at CB K9 and here at Evolution Working Dog Club. Also, check out her Functional Obedience Class here.You can follow us for notifications of upcoming episodes, find us at k9detectioncollaborative.comJingle by: www.mavericksings.com
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Today, two of the three Dames of Detection, Stacy Barnett and Crystal Wing, sit down with two amazing handlers, Jack Thorpe and Annissia Justice. Drawing from their recent experience doing search and rescue in the aftermath of the floods brought on by Hurricane Helene, our guests do a deep dive into their best tips and strategies around cadaver dog training.Listen in as they uncover the secrets behind successful canine search teams, particularly those operating in disaster scenarios. You'll hear firsthand accounts of the type of prep and specialized training required for high-stakes missions, where reinforced behaviors and navigating distractions are key.
They’re also talking about best practices for keeping your dog motivated and fit, physically and mentally, with simple yet powerful activities.
Our guests discuss the importance of balancing obedience and play and, in the same vein, taking full advantage of the intersection between genetics and drive in operational success. Through the example of Jack’s very own Fiji, they also demonstrate the power of letting dogs problem-solve on their own.
Certification and deployment protocols? Jack and Annissia break them down as well to hammer home the rigorous standards and continuous learning involved in earning your keep in the detection world.
Finally, our guests list the qualities all top handlers share, as well as the secret to a thriving and consistently improving team! Tune in next week for part two of this value-packed conversation!
Key Topics:
About Jack and Annissia (01:20)About the NC Trooper's Association K-9 Search and Recovery (04:44)Distraction Training for Disaster Teams (12:11)Letting Your Dogs Be Dogs Via Free Exploration(17:48)Building Endurance and Resilience (19:50)What Engagement Looks Like in the Field (24:54)Key Behaviors Every Dog Needs Before Deployment (30:15)The Top Qualities of Successful Handlers (34:27)Fostering Open-Mindedness in Your Team (41:00)External Certifications (43:04)Resources:
Find Annissia at Cultured Canine TrainingFind Jack at the North Carolina Trooper's Association K-9 Search and Recovery TeamMake sure to keep up with what Crystal, Stacy and Robin are up to! (Links below!)
Check out the K9 Detection Collaborative FB page and comment on the episode post!K9Sensus Foundation can be found on Facebook and Instagram. We have a Trainer’s Group on Facebook!Scentsabilities Nosework is also on Facebook. Here is a Facebook group you should join!Crystal Wing K9 Coach can be found here at CB K9 and here at Evolution Working Dog Club. Also, check out her Functional Obedience Class here.You can follow us for notifications of upcoming episodes, find us at k9detectioncollaborative.com to enjoy the freebies, and tell your friends so you can keep the conversations going.
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In today’s episode of K9 Detection Collaborative, our hosts Robin Greubel, Stacy Barnett, and Crystal Wing discuss the keys to cleaning up your dog’s behavior chain to help them stay on track and avoid distractions in the field.
When it comes to reinforcing behavior, it’s just as important to get clear on when not to train particular habits. Their rule of thumb? Avoid reinforcing tactics during moments of frustration in your dog. It’s important to be systematic when training for search & rescue scenarios, setting clear boundaries and expectations for your dog, all while respecting their autonomy so that they can make snap decisions with confidence in high-stakes situations.
With Deb Jones's Focus Unified Field Theory as their guide, the Dames of Detection navigate the complexities of canine focus in four areas—external, self, trainer, and task focuses. Understanding these focus types is crucial for managing distractions and maintaining a dog's attention during challenging search tasks.
They dive into strategies that build a strong reinforcement system, allowing dogs to handle complex searches without becoming overwhelmed. They also explain why it’s crucial to actively train blank areas with the intention of striking a balance between engagement and overwhelm for both handler and dog.
Finally, Robin, Stacy, and Crystal define “self-employing” actions, and why it’s a good idea to steer clear from reinforcing such behaviors, as well as the keys to nurturing understanding when building on and optimizing your dog’s behavior chain.
Key Topics:
Why You Shouldn’t Try Reinforcing Behaviors During Moments of Frustration (00:00)Systematic Searching and Maintaining Your Dog’s Autonomy (05:51)When and When Not to Praise Your Dog (10:53)Four Types of Focus (17:52)The Importance of Actively Training Blank Areas (25:50)“Don’t Reinforce Them For Self-Employing” (29:30)Building the Desire to do the Job Right (35:13)Building Understanding (41:03)Dames of Detection Takeaways (50:48)Resources:
Deb Jones and the F.O.C.U.S Dog Training System: https://k9infocus.com/shiny-new-thoughts-on-focus/ | https://k9infocus.com/Join Robin for her winter webinar series!FENZI WebinarsFENZI CampWe want to hear from you:
Check out the K9 Detection Collaborative FB page and comment on the episode post!K9Sensus Foundation can be found on Facebook and Instagram. We have a Trainer’s Group on Facebook!Scentsabilities Nosework is also on Facebook. Here is a Facebook group you should join!Crystal Wing K9 Coach can be found here at CB K9 and here at Evolution Working Dog Club. Also, check out her Functional Obedience Class here.You can follow us for notifications of upcoming episodes, find us at -
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“Don’t rush the training. Don’t trial too early. Because you’re short-changing that important part where you’re thoughtfully adding the right stress to the picture.”
What’s the difference between “good” and “bad” stress in dog handling, and how do you incorporate the former into your training while minimizing the latter?
Drawing from a groundbreaking study in Nature, our hosts Robin Greubel, Stacy Barnett, and Crystal Wing discuss how stress impacts our dog’s learning and behavior. You’ll get a treasure trove of tips for masterfully adding artificial stressors into your handler training, all while learning to keep burnout at bay and your skills razor-sharp.
Getting the balance right between good and bad stress is like walking a tightrope in the world of K9 detection. Our hosts explore how the right amount of stress can boost your dog’s memory and performance. Through real-life scenarios, they dissect common handling pitfalls and tips for fine-tuning your teaching, training, and testing methodology.
The Dames of Detection also break down the impact of emotional states–of both handler and dog–on training outcomes. They unpack little-known facts such as how your dog reacts differently to odors depending on which side it’s coming from, and how best to engage your dog’s olfactory system to supercharge their optimism and overall well-being!
Key Topics:
Applying Intentional Stress in Handler Training (03:56)Summarizing the Nature Study (08:10)Training Bravery Via Good Stress (15:15)Adding Artificial Stressors for the Benefit of the Handler (22:30)Teaching, Training, Testing (27:05)How Your Dog Assesses Odors Differently Through Each Nostril (38:40)Our Other Stress-Related “Ah-Hah”s (44:57)How Engaging Your Dog’s Olfactory System Positively Impacts Their Mood (50:06)Takeaways (53:15)Resources:
FENZI CampCrystal in WisconsinSTUDY: The odour of an unfamiliar stressed or relaxed person affects dogs’ responses to a cognitive bias test: www.nature.com/articles/s41598-024-66147-1We want to hear from you:
Check out the K9 Detection Collaborative FB page and comment on the episode post!K9Sensus Foundation can be found on Facebook and Instagram. We have a Trainer’s Group on Facebook!Scentsabilities Nosework is also on Facebook. Here is a Facebook group you should join!Crystal Wing K9 Coach can be found here at CB K9 and here at Evolution Working Dog Club. Also, check out her Functional Obedience Class here.You can follow us for notifications of upcoming episodes, find us at k9detectioncollaborative.com to enjoy the freebies, and tell your friends so you can keep the conversations going. -
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In this episode of K9 Detection Collaborative our hosts Robin Greubel, Stacy Barnett and Crystal Wing explore the intricate world of displacement behaviors in dogs. They kick off by discussing recognizing these behaviors, which often arise from stress, frustration, or internal conflict in our canine companions. Our hosts share practical insights and anecdotes to help you identify and address these signals, ensuring a more harmonious training environment for both you and your dog.
The Dames of Detection also draw parallels between displacement behaviors in humans and dogs, revealing how stress and overwhelming situations can lead to unexpected coping mechanisms. By sharing personal experiences and relating them to similar behaviors in dogs, like scavenging, lip licking, pacing, and grass snatching, they highlight the importance of recognizing these signs as indicators of stress or pressure. Listen in as they discuss the impact of handler expectations and share valuable tips for managing stress in training scenarios, especially when working with high-energy dogs in demanding environments.
Our hosts also tackle the complexities of trigger stacking and the importance of understanding canine arousal levels. They emphasize the significance of balancing a dog's stress and arousal to foster effective teamwork. Through discussions on trigger stacking, displacement behaviors, and the need for flexible training strategies, they provide guidance on creating positive associations and respecting individual canine needs.
Key Topics:
Recognizing and Defining Displacement Behaviors (00:00)Examples of Displacement Behaviors in Dogs (05:49)Displacement Behaviors in Search and Rescue Dogs (09:08)Understanding Trigger Stacking and Displacement Behaviors (21:18)Handling Displacement Behaviors in Training (36:27)Trigger Stacking and Accumulated Stress (37:54)Building Resiliency and Confidence in Dogs (38:13)Recognizing and Addressing Displacement Behaviors in Different Contexts (43:27)Balancing Stress and Resiliency in Training (47:16)Practical Tips for Handling Displacement Behaviors (49:42)Takeaways (50:01)Resources:
On Talking Terms with Dogs: Calming Signals (book)FENZI CampCrystal in WisconsinWe want to hear from you:
Check out the K9 Detection Collaborative FB page and comment on the episode post!K9Sensus Foundation can be found on Facebook and Instagram. We have a Trainer’s Group on Facebook!Scentsabilities Nosework is also on Facebook. Here is a Facebook group you should join!Crystal Wing K9 Coach can be found here at CB K9 and here at Evolution Working Dog Club. Also, check out her Functional Obedience Class here.You can follow us for notifications of upcoming episodes, find us at k9detectioncollaborative.com - Show more
