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  • Today on the show, we’re joined by Krista Dalton, the CMO and SVP of Digital at Tecovas, as she takes us inside the brand’s marketing strategy. We get into how Tecovas leverages data, reporting, and merchandising to expand and evolve the brand, all while staying true to its roots. We discuss the importance of understanding customer needs, how to balance creative and data-driven decisions, and the key role of brand evolution in driving growth. Krista also discusses how Tecovas is expanding into new categories while ensuring every offering aligns with their core mission. She also shares how AI is helping streamline data processes and reporting and highlights the importance of a collaborative, cross-functional team in executing Tecovas’ marketing strategy.

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    00:00 Introduction

    02:36 Current Trends in DTC Marketing and AI Integration

    05:31 Understanding the Role of a CMO at Tecovas

    11:50 Data-Driven Decision Making and Reporting Practices

    24:03 Balancing Automation with Personal Insight in Data Analysis

    32:51 Understanding Brand and Product Dynamics

    38:30 The Importance of Post-Purchase Optimization

    56:06 Learning from Failures and Customer Expectations

    01:05:39 Craftsmanship and Customer Connection

    01:10:55 Navigating the Cowboy Boot Market

    01:21:07 Strategic Growth Marketing Initiatives

    01:28:39 Leveraging AI for Marketing Efficiency

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  • In this episode, we break down what it actually means to define a high-performing ad creative strategy, and why doing so is essential to unlocking sustainable growth on Meta. We walk through Cody’s 10-point creative framework for shaping the ad strategy at Jones Road Beauty, diving into why creative should be treated as targeting, how to escape Meta’s “local maxima,” and how to feed the algorithm more diverse, strategically aligned inputs. Cody shares his take on creative strategy as prompt engineering for right-brain marketers, reframing how brands should think about influencing Meta’s outcomes.

    We also explore the maturity curve of attribution and measurement – why early-stage brands often rely on last-click metrics, and how that approach needs to evolve over time. Finally, we touch on the complexity of deciding which dimensions – audience, ad format, channel, offer, or optimization strategy – are worth prioritizing as you scale.

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    00:00 Introduction

    02:52 Navigating Economic Pressures and AI in Marketing

    05:46 Creative Strategy and Team Structure

    09:03 Defining Creative Strategy and Volume

    11:46 Creative Diversity and Audience Targeting

    15:05 Local Maxima and Creative Inputs

    17:47 Post-Purchase Monetization Strategies

    21:03 The Role of Media Strategy in Creative Success

    27:10 Aligning Creative and Media Strategies

    29:56 Influencer Partnerships and Targeting

    32:46 New Attribution Models and Performance Measurement

    39:26 The Evolution of Attribution Models

    42:10 Defining Creative Diversity

    44:30 Incrementality vs Attribution in Marketing

    47:51 Measuring Marketing Success

    53:51 Cohesive Funnels in Marketing

    01:07:21 Creative Exploration vs Exploitation

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  • In this episode of Marketing Operators, we get into a mix of marketing topics that are top of mind for us this week, plus we answer a listener question from the MOperators Hotline.

    First, we break down Meta’s Conversion Lift Testing, including how it measures ad performance, its limitations, and when it’s most useful for your business. We also discuss how AI tools are revolutionising creative production, from automating time-consuming tasks like image and video creation to enabling more personalised, scalable content at a fraction of the traditional cost. Next up, we explore product seeding, including effective strategies for influencer outreach, tracking success, and improving hit rates. We wrap up by answering one of our listener’s questions on running incrementality tests for a low eight-figure brand with a million-dollar ad spend split between Meta and Google Search.

    Tune in for insights on ad testing, creative strategies, and influencer marketing to help optimize your marketing efforts and create sustainable growth.

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    00:00 April Fool's Campaigns and Brand Values

    02:48 Innovative Product Launches and Creative Processes

    05:58 Testing and Measurement Strategies in Marketing

    12:05 Incrementality Testing: Meta vs. Haus

    17:49 Optimizing Marketing Strategies for Growth

    23:47 AI in Influencer Marketing and Brand Ambassadors

    31:44 Scaling Influencer Programs with AI

    35:57 Optimizing Product Seeding Strategies

    39:27 Transforming Customer Support with Technology

    46:46 Leveraging AI for Creative Generation

    55:19 Exploring New Technologies in Marketing

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  • Email marketing isn’t dead - but it can often be done better. Today we’re joined by Karly Craig, author of Email Is Not Dead and seasoned ecommerce operator, to talk about the email marketing strategies that actually drive revenue.

    Karly shares why most brands are underutilising flows, especially when it comes to welcome sequences and post-purchase emails, and how extending these can lead to significantly higher conversion rates and long-term revenue. She walks through what a 30-day+ welcome flow could look like, how to inject personality and pattern-breakers into emails, and why category-specific messaging can make a big impact, especially when you offer multiple product types.

    We also dig into smart retention plays beyond email, including how to think about product drops, building anticipation with your list, and creating “got it” moments post-purchase, as well as diving into reactivation timing, how brands can drive second purchases with value-first strategies not just aggressive discounting, and much more.

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    00:00 Introduction to Karly Craig and Her Journey

    02:41 The Evolution of Karly's Book: Email is Not Dead

    05:52 Key Pillars of Automated Flows in Marketing

    12:00 Building Effective Email Flows for E-commerce

    14:54 Post-Purchase Strategies and Customer Retention

    18:05 Reactivation Strategies and Long-term Customer Engagement

    20:54 Creating a Personalized Customer Experience

    24:08 Leveraging Customer Accounts for Increased LTV

    26:59 The Role of Discounts and Promotions in Retention

    29:52 Final Thoughts on E-commerce Marketing Strategies

    38:43 Building Customer Loyalty Through Engagement

    41:57 Innovative Attribution Models for Marketing

    45:07 Rethinking Loyalty Programs

    49:14 Enhancing Customer Experience with Technology

    52:54 Strategies for Successful Product Drops

    01:01:00 Leveraging Community for Brand Growth

    01:13:25 Investing in Personal Development Through Coaching

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  • Last week, a video featuring Saratoga water went viral - and the brand’s response, or lack thereof, got the ecom and marketing twitter world into a frenzy, with people calling them out for wasting a massive viral moment. We break down what we would’ve done as Saratoga’s CMO: how to respond to earned media moments, what brands should consider in viral situations, and how to quickly activate organic social and creator partnerships.

    We also get into Meta’s Andromeda engine - the machine learning upgrade powering Advantage+ Shopping Campaigns. We break down what it actually does, how it’s reshaping campaign structure and creative distribution, and whether it’s delivering better results in the accounts we manage.

    Lastly, we dive into AI-generated ad creative: what’s possible today, what’s coming fast, and how it’s already changing how marketing teams work - from research and creative briefs to production speed and creative volume.

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    00:00 Introduction

    02:53 Viral Morning Routine: The Ashton Hall Phenomenon

    05:56 Saratoga Water's Missed Opportunity

    08:49 Marketing Strategies in Response to Viral Moments

    12:11 Meta's Andromeda: Enhancements in Ad Performance

    15:04 Ad Campaign Structures and Performance Metrics

    37:37 The Evolution of Ad Distribution

    44:12 Innovations in E-commerce and Meta Shops

    47:13 AI in Creative Production

    57:03 The Future of Brand Marketing Strategies

    01:01:12 Emerging Trends in Organic Social Media

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  • How do you set KPIs that actually drive results? And how do you structure reporting and meetings to keep your team aligned and effective?

    In this episode, we break down how we set, track, and adjust KPIs, how we use reporting to make smarter decisions, and how we run meetings that keep everyone accountable without wasting time. We discuss how transparency in reporting impacts performance, how to ensure KPIs reflect business priorities without creating misalignment, and how we balance individual accountability with company-wide goals. Plus, we dive into the role of meetings in keeping teams on track, the common mistakes operators make when setting KPIs, and why the right reporting framework can make or break your growth strategy.

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    00:00 Celebrating One Year of The Marketing Operators Podcast

    01:55 The Importance of KPIs in E-commerce

    04:05 Transparency in Goal Communication

    12:24 Setting Effective KPIs for Teams

    21:04 Navigating Challenges in KPI Accountability

    28:20 Balancing Objective and Subjective KPIs

    31:10 Defining Effective KPIs for Teams

    34:28 Challenges in Measuring Conversion Rates

    39:12 The Impact of Paid Media Spend

    46:08 Long-Term Vision vs. Short-Term Goals

    49:53 The Importance of Good Marketing Practices

    56:11 Navigating Compensation and KPIs

    01:02:56 Standardizing Reporting Practices

    01:05:50 Effective Meeting Structures and Communication

    01:10:34 Asynchronous Updates and Time Management

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  • Scaling with Meta ads isn’t as simple as running purchase conversion campaigns anymore and as the platform evolves, marketers need new strategies to drive true incremental growth. Many brands are ealizing that Meta’s algorithm has shifted towards targeting people already in-market, making it harder to reach truly new customers at scale, leading to rising costs and diminishing returns.

    In this episode of Marketing Operators, we break down why optimizing solely for purchase conversions might be limiting your ability to scale. We discuss the challenge of balancing incrementality and efficiency, how holdout tests reveal the real impact of Meta spend, and why some brands are shifting towards View Content optimization to expand their reach.

    We also explore whether brands at different revenue stages should be experimenting with non-purchase objectives, and how top ecommerce marketers are testing new ad strategies to unlock incremental growth.

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    00:00 Introduction and Catch Up

    08:22 Navigating the Evolving Landscape of Meta Advertising

    18:00 Innovative Strategies for Incremental Marketing Success

    35:03 The Shift to Causality in Marketing Measurement

    38:31 Testing Creative Diversity and Optimization Strategies

    40:57 Incrementality Insights and Budget Allocation

    44:38 Understanding the Impact of New Product Launches

    51:32 Measuring Incrementality and Revenue Attribution

    01:02:19 Strategies for Smaller Brands in Paid Media

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  • It’s a full house today with Cody back, and we’ve got a jam-packed episode - first up, the Tacovas Ad that’s got the marketing world talking - does brand marketing like this really drive growth? We discuss the line between long-term brand building and immediate performance results, and explore how top DTC brands are navigating that balance. We also get into how product expansion can be a game-changer for scaling, with examples of how brands use category growth to reach wider audiences. We discuss evolving role of AI in marketing SaaS tools, the potential it has for improving creative analysis and decision-making, and why measurement and forecasting are still critical components of successful marketing strategies.

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    00:00 Welcome Back Cody

    02:11 The Importance of Day-to-Day Tracking

    09:09 The Tacovas Gate Discussion

    33:29 Preparing for Product Launches

    37:47 Strategic Product Launch Planning

    46:15 Integrating AI in Marketing Workflows

    55:16 The Future of Attribution Models

    01:00:20 SaaS Consolidation and Klaviyo's Evolution

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  • This week, it’s a Connor Special as we’re joined by Connor Dault, VP of Growth & Digital Product at Caraway, to discuss the role of digital product in DTC growth and how it intersects with performance marketing, UX, and conversion. We dive into Caraway’s strategic response to HexClad’s Super Bowl ad, why digital product isn’t just CRO and how Caraway builds high-performing product experiences that go beyond simple A/B testing. Connor also shares insights on balancing data-driven optimization with brand storytelling, how Caraway approaches site navigation and product merchandising, and why many DTC brands still overlook the power of digital product in driving long-term revenue.

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    Chapters

    00:00 Introduction

    01:22 Connor Dault's Background and Role at Caraway

    05:23 Insights from Super Bowl Weekend

    10:52 The Evolution of Super Bowl Advertising

    17:30 Lessons from Quibi's Super Bowl Experience

    33:54 Leveraging Current Events in Marketing

    39:02 Building Digital Product Teams

    43:50 Balancing Roadmaps and CRO Testing

    49:41 Insights from Incrementality Testing

    56:15 Common Mistakes in Digital Product Strategy

    01:02:33 Inspiration from Successful Brands

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  • Today, we’re joined by Aaron Paul, founder of Paul Street, to explore how top DTC brands are leveraging affiliate marketing to drive massive growth - and where many go wrong.

    Aaron shares his insights from working with leading brands like Onnit, Goli Nutrition, and HelloFresh. We discuss what’s working in affiliate marketing today, why media-buying affiliates aren’t always the right fit (and when they are), and how content-driven publishers now drive the majority of affiliate revenue. We also get into common pitfalls that cause programs to stall along with advice on how to sidestep these mistakes.

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    00:00 Introduction

    10:07 The Evolution of Affiliate Marketing

    20:00 The Role of Affiliates in Brand Growth

    29:46 Current Trends in Affiliate Marketing

    40:02 Challenges and Best Practices in Affiliate Programs

    46:26 Navigating Affiliate Marketing Success

    51:50 Identifying and Combating Affiliate Fraud

    56:47 The Dynamics of Affiliate Payouts

    01:01:50 Building Trust with Affiliates

    01:06:56 The Future of Affiliate Marketing and Content Creation

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  • HexClad just pulled off one of their biggest marketing plays so far - a Super Bowl Ad - but this wasn’t just about airing a commercial during the big game, it was a multi-layered, cross-platform campaign designed to maximize impact beyond a single TV spot.

    In this episode, Connor and Connor break down how the HexClad team made it happen, from choosing the right creative concept to executing an omni-channel marketing playbook that extended far beyond game day. They dive into why the company decided to invest in a Super Bowl ad, how they built pre-game buzz through influencers and viral social moments, and what set their approach apart from traditional brand marketing. They also unpack the balance between brand and performance marketing, how they leveraged meme amplification and social storytelling to scale awareness, and how they plan to track success beyond just game-day sales, including search trends, social engagement, and long-term brand impact.

    This episode was recorded just a few days before the Super Bowl ad aired—stay tuned for a future episode where Connor shares his first impressions on how it performed.

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    00:00 Introduction

    02:52 Health and Wellness Trends

    06:09 Analytics Tools and Reporting Standards

    09:06 Creative Strategies for 2025

    12:08 Hexclad's Super Bowl Campaign Overview

    14:55 Concept Development and Agency Collaboration

    17:48 Execution of the Super Bowl Campaign

    21:10 Omni-channel Marketing Strategies

    27:03 Engagement and Community Buzz

    29:55 Cultural Timing and Relevance

    38:48 Emerging Media Measurement Solutions

    42:41 Campaign Comparisons and Expectations

    50:02 Measuring Super Bowl Campaign Impact

    57:24 Revenue Projections and Strategic Planning

    01:03:12 Enhancing E-commerce Experience through Bundling

    HexClad Super Bowl Ad:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIShJGu1ISc

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  • Today we are joined by a member of the Operators family, Matt Bertulli, CEO of Pela Case and Lomi, to talk all things marketing. Jumping off fromSean Frank’s tweet questioning if meta is still incremental, we get deep into the nuance of paid media and how it’s shifting, the increasing challenges of reaching new customers on Meta, and why the old playbooks don’t work anymore. We also discuss scaling beyond meta and reallocating budget to TV, YouTube and strategic partnerships to drive new customer acquisition, what content tends to make for the best ads, how to measure long-term impact and where performance marketers are getting it wrong, and much more.

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    00:00 Introduction

    02:52 E-commerce Advertising Trends for 2025

    05:51 Navigating the Challenges of Meta Advertising

    08:55 The Role of Incrementality in Meta Advertising

    11:46 Understanding Meta's Advertising Dynamics

    15:12 The Future of Meta Advertising and Brand Strategies

    30:29 Understanding Meta's Impact on Marketing Strategies

    36:12 The Shift from Purchase to Brand Awareness

    42:54 Reevaluating Marketing Objectives in a Changing Landscape

    49:49 The Convergence of Content and Advertising

    54:30 Exploring Non-Meta Marketing Channels

    01:01:08 Understanding Audience Awareness and Engagement

    01:04:50 Channel Diversification and Media Mix Strategy

    01:10:09 Influencer Marketing as a Scalable Strategy

    01:14:57 Evaluating Influencer Partnerships

    01:17:51 The Role of Post-Purchase Surveys in Marketing

    01:20:45 Creative Collaborations with Influencers

    01:23:27 Testing and Optimizing Marketing Strategies

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  • Today we’re diving into the second part of our hiring series, this time focusing on onboarding and how to set up your new hires for success from day one. We discuss how to get the best out of your new hires as quickly as possible, how to integrate them seamlessly into your team and culture, some common onboarding issues and challenges we’ve experienced, and we break down our strategies, systems and workflows around setting up new hires and empowering them to thrive.

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    00:00 Introduction

    05:47 Exploring Agenteo: Automating YouTube Creator Sponsorships

    09:14 Performance Metrics and Initial Results from YouTube Campaigns

    12:06 Understanding CPMs and Influencer Marketing Dynamics

    14:52 Navigating Hiring Challenges and Expectations

    18:13 Onboarding New Hires: Setting Expectations and Momentum

    20:58 Building Relationships and Integrating into Company Culture

    23:51 Strategies for Effective Team Collaboration

    36:37 Streamlining Project Management and Onboarding

    40:14 The Importance of Incrementality Testing

    42:10 Balancing Guidance and Autonomy in Hiring

    48:22 Collaborative Goal Setting and Performance Management

    56:19 Establishing Clear Expectations and Accountability

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  • This week we’re talking hiring for high-growth ecommerce teams. We’re sharing insights on how to know when to hire, why buying back your time is essential for leadership, org chart design and how it evolves over time, and we share some real-life scenarios and challenges we’ve experienced when growing our teams. If you’re struggling with your team structure, planning your next strategic hire or looking to build out your team effectively as you scale, this one’s for you - and join us next week when we’ll be discussing all things onboarding and how to get the best out of your new hires.

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    00:00 Introduction

    04:24 New Features in E-commerce Tools

    06:28 Hiring Trends and Team Structures

    14:06 Rationalizing Hiring Decisions

    19:19 Building Organizational Hierarchy

    27:14 Cross-Channel Collaboration and Strategy

    36:46 Scaling International Marketing Efforts

    40:37 Evolving Organizational Structures

    45:23 Navigating Hiring and Firing Challenges

    53:27 Optimizing Customer Experience and Operations

    01:00:16 The Importance of Cultural Fit in Hiring

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  • Today, we’re diving into one of the most hotly debated topics in performance marketing: creative testing volume. Should you prioritize scaling creative volume or focus on quality? In this episode, we share how we’re approaching creative testing, how our strategies have evolved over time, what we’re budgeting for creative, when more isn’t always better, and the costs of maximizing volume.

    We also explore the challenges of producing at scale, what “quality” really means in today’s ad landscape, and how creative strategy evolves as a business grows.

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    00:00 Introduction

    04:23 Creative Testing Volume: The Debate

    10:02 Finding the Right Balance: Volume vs. Quality

    14:16 Setting Creative Goals and Deliverables

    20:13 The Spectrum of Creative Strategies

    24:44 Long-Term Investments in Creative Assets

    30:42 Diversity in Content for Non-Cookware Categories

    36:15 Strategic Depth in Marketing Approaches

    39:01 Navigating Creative Exploration and Product Launches

    42:08 Leveraging AI for Customer Experience

    51:00 Budgeting for Creative Production

    56:59 The Role of AI in Creative Strategy

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  • In this episode, Cody and Connor dive into the hottest DTC predictions for 2025, discussing everything from the rise and fall of AppLovin to the transformative impact of AI on customer experience and ad creative. They share their thoughts on outsourcing and the shift to global teams, the evolution and consolidation of SaaS tools, strategies for scaling with operational leverage in today’s competitive market and more.

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    00:00 Introduction

    04:08 AppLovin's Future in Advertising

    09:56 Google's Advertising Landscape

    18:57 The Impact of AI on Consumer Brands

    27:48 Creative Strategies and Tools for 2025

    35:15 YouTube Strategies and Incrementality

    40:14 E-commerce Labor Market Trends

    42:38 Outsourcing and Operational Leverage

    45:32 Simplifying Business Models for Efficiency

    48:41 Upper Funnel Measurement Innovations

    50:17 SaaS Consolidation and Cost Management

    53:22 The Future of Omnichannel Commerce

    01:06:47 Predictions for 2025 and Beyond

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  • In this episode, we’re breaking down the influencer marketing strategies we’re using this year. From product seeding to scaling creator partnerships, we’re talking about EMV and how to measure it affectively, how to maximise spend on influencers for maximum ROI, and strategies for whitelisting, affiliate deals and paid creator partnerships.

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    00:00 Introduction

    05:49 Influencer Marketing Strategies for 2024

    09:10 The Power of Product Seeding and Community Engagement

    12:02 Leveraging Micro and Macro Influencers

    15:08 Balancing Paid and Organic Influencer Partnerships

    17:59 Exploring Diverse Creator Collaborations

    21:07 Navigating the Influencer Landscape Across Platforms

    24:00 Measuring Marketing Effectiveness and Incrementality

    30:21 The Volatility of Social Media Platforms

    34:43 Tools for Content Discovery and Attribution

    37:15 Shifting Perspectives on Influencer Marketing

    40:35 Budgeting for Influencer Marketing

    43:54 Upper Funnel Channels and Measurement Challenges

    48:50 Balancing Organic and Paid Influencer Strategies

    52:42 Integrating Influencer Marketing with Product Launches

    56:02 Creating Buzzworthy Product Launches

    01:01:16 Leveraging Influencer Marketing for Product Launches

    01:09:21 The Future of Influencer Marketing Platforms

    01:17:15 Measuring Success in Influencer Campaigns

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  • It’s a full house today, and we’re joined by Shane Rostad to talk CRO. Shane’s recently launched his own brand as co-founder of Cheeky, a new creator-led brand that smashed its launch with 10k orders in its first month. In today’s ep we’re talking about brand positioning and messaging, how to drive LTV and boost AOV with strategic post-purchase upsells and CRO tactics to unlock sustainable growth. If you’re scaling a DTC or ecom brand an are looking for strategies to position your brand more effectively, convert more customers and keep them coming back for more, this one’s for you.

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    00:00 Introduction

    02:16 Transitioning to Brand Side: Shane's New Journey

    04:46 Launching Cheeky: The New Brand Experience

    07:40 Growth Strategies: Leveraging Creator Partnerships

    11:01 Understanding Customer Lifetime Value (LTV)

    12:58 Product Offerings: Subscription vs. One-Time Purchases

    18:07 UI/UX Design: Crafting the Customer Experience

    22:18 Product Positioning: Standing Out in a Crowded Market

    29:44 CRO Insights: High-Level Strategies for Growth

    35:18 Expanding Demographics: Reaching Younger Audiences

    36:44 Navigating Customer Journeys and Personalization

    48:14 CRO Strategies for DTC Brands

    01:06:38 Post-Purchase Optimization and Revenue Strategies

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  • Today we are joined by Dan McCormick, co-founder and CEO of Create Wellness. Create went from zero to $20M+ in revenue in just two years with only six-full time employees, and today he’s sharing what those roles are and how he went about building his high-leverage DTC business. We discuss the power of positioning, agency vs. in-house teams, the future of supplement brands, team structure, retention strategies, and what makes a modern brand scalable.

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    00:00 Introduction

    02:13 Growth Strategies and Creative Testing

    04:31 Dan McCormick and Create Wellness Overview

    07:19 Identifying Market Opportunities in Creatine

    10:44 Team Management and Organizational Structure

    13:51 Revenue Growth and Headcount Dynamics

    20:04 In-House vs. Outsourcing Strategies

    26:32 Marketing Operations and Team Responsibilities

    32:21 Future Growth Projections and Business Scalability

    37:18 Market Trends and Challenges in the Supplement Industry

    39:12 Navigating the Supplement Industry's Challenges

    42:57 The Evolution of DTC Brands

    46:20 Building High-Leverage Teams

    56:21 Leveraging AI and Technology in Marketing

    01:01:34 Capitalizing on Seasonal Trends

    01:03:01 Product Expansion Strategies

    01:09:19 The Power of Influencer Marketing

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  • Today we are getting into the hottest new ad channel in ecommerce right now - AppLovin. We discuss how we’ve been using it within our brands, the pros and the cons of this emerging channel, and whether it's a scalable alternative to Meta Ads. Cody shares results from his team's recent holdout test, breaking down AppLovin's impact on incremental sales, new vs. repeat customers, and CPAs. We also unpack broader strategies for driving growth across paid media, creative campaigns, and channel diversification.

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    00:00 Celebrating Milestones and Sales Success

    02:47 Scaling Paid Social: Creative Testing Strategies

    05:49 Exploring AppLovin: The New Ad Channel

    18:11 Understanding AppLovin's User Base and Growth

    23:49 Measuring Incrementality: The AppLovin Test Results

    29:46 Reactivating Customers: The Cost-Benefit Analysis

    33:40 Customer Reactivation Challenges

    36:01 Understanding Incrementality and Profitability

    39:14 Analyzing New Customer Acquisition

    46:07 Exploring the Limitations of Customer Exclusions

    51:04 Innovative TV Campaign Strategies

    56:24 Measuring TV Campaign Effectiveness

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