Episodes
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Today, Max and Colborn look into the vociferous response to former minting platform, Foundation, realigning itself as a social-media-based business (and one that looks a whole lot like the site our own Colborn helped to build), and try to tease out its meaning. Is a slow rug inevitable? Are all remaining platforms doomed to grasp at any nearby straw? What does a business need to survive in crypto art, and more importantly, how do the rest of us build-up the kind of crypto art we want to see? Can we reestablish a middle class through force-of-will alone?
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Today, a conversation all about conceptual art with the conceptual artist, essayist, and AI dilettante/explorer, Kevin Esherick. Having tackled dense conceptual topics in AI, generative aesthetics, things relating to life and the self and the spirit alike, Kevin is the perfect person to discuss making conceptual art communicable online, the way inspiration affixes itself to a certain medium, ambition, effort, AI, and his latest project, I'm With You, releasing soon.
Find Kevin here: https://x.com/kev_esh
And learn more about I'm With You here:
https://x.com/kev_esh/status/1838950210669580396
https://verse.works/series/im-with-you-by-kevin-esherick
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Today, Max and Colborn begin by breaking down a few of the elements that led to the previous week's worldwide economic bludgeoning, and why bad economics might be useful for crypto art's revolution. Then, the two discuss the motivations for crypto artists in a financialization-less ecosystem, the rise of free mints, the value of ubiquity, and what's left in crypto art when all the attention, the funds, the perception of "value" has gone away.
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Today’s podcast takes a long, frank look at the foundation, the uproar, and the ultimate downfall of the “Metaverse,” as we knew it. Metaverse architect maestro, Untitled,XYZ, joins Max and Colborn to talk about the Metaverse’s early moments, its final moments, the fall of the Metaverse studio, Polygonal Mind, videogames, AI, and what Metaverse might rise from all these ashes.
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Max and Colborn welcome the curator and critic, Eleonora Brizi, back to the podcast for the 3rd time (!!!) to dive deep on crypto art's many problems with criticism. The three will tackle the lack of criticism in crypto art, and what has in many ways replaced it. They'll go into the difficulty of creating criticism while honoring crypto art's values, the trouble of artists being trapped in their own styles, whether criticism can ever be properly incentivized, and much more.
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Today's episode is all about bots: automated programs, AI agents, procedural scam artists, if it's performing an action without direct human intervention, we're breaking it down and talking about why it's important. Whether bots are used to juice follower numbers, mislead investors, or create artificial cultural ephemera, there's no denying their outsized impact on every crypto-adjacent. Max and Colborn dive deep on different kinds of bots, how they affect crypto culture, and whether crypto art can ever escape their influence, especially since the internet at-large cannot.
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Today, Max and Colborn welcome a crypto art legend, and one one of the founders of Async.Art, Conlan Rios, to talk innovation in crypto art: Can innovation occur sustainably from the business end? How can a business survive sustainably in crypto art? Drawing from three years running AsyncArt, a leading creative crypto art plaform, Conlan dissects the legacy of his own project, what lessons are applicable to all of crypto art, and the nasty era of un-innovation we (perhaps unavoidably) find ourselves in.
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On today's episode, Max and Colborn dive headfirst into the noxious swamp that is crypto art's business environment. They trace crypto art businesses from early years until today, discuss the difficulty of running a sustainable business in crypto art despite rising crypto prices, wonder whether our values are incompatible with survival, debate criticism, and field a whole host of questions and comments from a rollicking chatroom.
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This week, Max and Colborn welcome the remarkable cloud artist and crypto art historian, Martin Lukas Ostachowski (MLO) to the podcast to plumb through the past for the values that crypto art holds dear, if there are any. Join us as we go back to the cypherpunks, through the creation of Bitcoin, back and forth through many years of crypto art to see what crypto art values, when those values were traded away, how data scientists and AI models might provide new hope for unearthing crypto art's actual history.
Read "Crypto Art - A Decentralized View" by Massimo Franceschet, Giovanni Colavizza, Tai Smith, Blake Finucane, Martin Lukas Ostachowski, Sergio Scalet, Jonathan Perkins, James Morgan, and Sebastian Hernandez here:
https://arxiv.org/pdf/1906.03263
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In a crypto art world always on the edge of flaming-up into fury, Max, Colborn, and special guest ROBNESS spill a bunch of gasoline everywhere and light a match. The three will vent their deepest grievances about collectors, generative art, AI, art contests, and much more. Listen now...if you can handle the heat.
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On this week's episode, Colborn and Max (Cohen) welcome the OG crypto artist Max Jackson to MOCA LIVE for a discussion of, not art necessarily, but all those who love it. Audiences is the day's topic, and the three discuss the best (and worst) ways of finding an audience, what having a crypto art audience even means, the death of Twitter's reliability, the birth of new models of audience-seeking, and whether any such model can survive long-term.
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On today's podcast, Max and Colborn welcome the legendary collector, writer, thinker, and crypto art forefather, Artnome, for a conversation about all things collecting and crypto art history. Beginning with the question "What do we do with art we no long like?" and opening up into a discussion of good vs. bad art in general, the trio eventually come to question and retool Artnome's foundational "What is Cryptoart," article from 2018. We somehow avoid talking for too long about the Boston Celtics.
"What is Cryptoart": https://www.artnome.com/news/2018/1/14/what-is-cryptoart
RightClickSave: https://www.rightclicksave.com/
ClubNFT: https://www.clubnft.com/
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Max and Colborn are joined by the OG crypto art collage artist George Boya for a podcast about collaborations, free artistic spirits, and creative processes. Inspired by George's recent series of collaborative pieces, Partners in Crime, the three go in depth on the importance of collaborations in crypto art culture, why the collabs suddenly ended (Artblocks, we're looking at you), what the process of creating collaborative artwork is like, how AI and derivatives factor into the collaborative ecosystem, and much more!
George Boya: https://twitter.com/BoyaGeorge
Partners in Crime: https://foundation.app/gallery/cultishnya
Through Time and Space (artwork mentioned during the Pod): https://superrare.com/artwork-v2/through-time-and-space-15473
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Max and Colborn are back (with sound effects!) to assign archaic denotations of value to the biggest recent news stories (and end up spiraling into head-scratching discussions). This week, it's Yuga's questionably-illegal reverting of Moonbirds' commercial rights away from CC0, Latasha using Zora incentive fees to help recoup the losses from a wallet hack, the best way to honor traditional artists who have recently passed, crypto artist identity crises, and an existential economic moment.
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In what feels like a particularly painful moment for everyone, Max and Colborn are joined by the multitalented artist, Awful Eye, to discuss...pain. Awful Eye's own story is one of pain and triumph and bravery, and their conversation today discusses Awful Eye's life, then and now, how he approaches identity in a space that sometimes reduces its members to a few details, how we can embrace and express our own pain in artistry, and what we need to do if we're to confront the world's pain with honesty and sensitivity.
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Today's podcast takes advantage of a quiet time in crypto art to decode, dissect, and predict the future for five fundamental segments of the crypto world. Max and Colborn try to get a sense for the current state of Crypto Art, AI, the Metaverse, Cryptocurrency, and Crypto Culture. Five segments, five underlying questions, a veritable smorgasbord of far-flung answers. This is a good one.
Article referenced:
https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2024/04/ai-magic-taking-over/677968/
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A perfect accompaniment for the post-NFTNYC trip home, this week's episode of MOCA LIVE is an intellectualized look at everyone's favorite internet-addled, gambling mechanism: memecoins. Colborn and Max talk with Anubis3100 and Sirsu, founders of the 747Crash coin, about how memecoins, despite their degenerate reputation, can actually be a powerful force for artist opportunity, can incentivize artistry and other community action, and are the natural evolution of an internet yearning to be commoditized.
https://twitter.com/anubis_3100
https://twitter.com/sirsuhayb
https://airport.gay/
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On today's MOCAYah or MOCNah, Colborn and Max first look towards the attention moving towards the Base blockchain, as a result of a million-minted XCOPY edition there. Then, they dissect a cultural appropriation conflict between artists Claire Silver and CyberYuyu, and debate the role of highly-intelligent, academic discourse in both crypto art today and any AI-flattened future. Finally, the two talk about the upcoming NFTNYC conference, what they're looking forward to, and what's different about this year's event.
https://twitter.com/XCOPYART
https://twitter.com/neonglitch86
https://twitter.com/ClaireSilver12
https://twitter.com/cyber_yuyu
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Max and Colborn sit down with the great AI artist, an original StableDiffusion contributor, and founder of DeForum.art, Huemin, to get into the weeds about how various AI models actually work, how AI art as we know it came to be, how we can get more AI into more hands with more expertise, and the all-important Open-Source Development community: Keeping them incentivized, keeping them energized, and what are the risks if we don't.
Visit: https://deforum.art/ and https://www.huemin.art/ to learn more (you so should)
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Today's episode is all about the Metaverse, and who better to speak about it with than the hosts of the longest-running web3 Metaverse meetup (and crypto art OGs), Rizzle and Niftytime. From their early history with TheWIPMeetup, to building a Metaverse audience, to a long debriefing on where the Metaverse is today, Rizzle and Niftytime evoke five years spent building this still-unfinished, still-revolutionary way of being online.
Click to find:
Rizzle
Niftytime
TheWIPMeetup
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