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  • Becca Mann is an author, screenwriter, and former Team USA swimmer. A two-time national champion, she was the youngest to place Top 10 in four events at a single Olympic Trials and competed in four World Championships. She later worked in writers rooms on shows like Cruel Summer, The Wilds, and The Morning Show. Her memoir Outside the Lanes and novel Unruly drop the first week of April.

    Today, we dive into how Becca landed her first writers' room job with 500+ cold emails; how she turned a spontaneous book pitch into a deal; and why embracing boldness, loving the process, and facing failure head-on leads to success.

    BREAKDOWN:

    3:00 - “Outside the Lanes” - memoir from an alumnae swimmer of Team USA

    15:00 - First job in Hollywood by guessing showrunners’ emails and cold emailing

    17:18 - First writers’ room job as a writers’ PA on “Cruel Summer”

    22:00 - Being show runner’s assistant on “The Wilds”

    23:50 - Becoming script coordinator on “The Morning Show”

    25:40 - Back to sending emails for the next job!

    28:00 - How Becca got her book deal + failure isn’t real

    33:00 - Huge week for Becca in April! Books, races, shows!

    34:00 - Becca announces her YA book premise, coming out this April!

    37:30 - USC swim career + early swim career

    44:50 - Advice!

    54:07 - TIME CAPSULE

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  • Maggie Admire is an LA-based writer and producer, nominated for a 2025 WGA Award and a CrimeCon Clue Award, with features in The New York Times. Over nine years, she’s created 40+ podcast series, many for Spotify, including Serial Killers and Coinspiracy Theories, reaching millions. She helped build Parcast as its first hire before its Spotify acquisition.

    Beyond podcasts, she’s been a Pack Theater sketch writer, crafted tweets for Funny or Die, and even ghostwrote Tinder replies—before being replaced by a younger, hotter AI. She’s currently writing a romantasy-comedy novel and fostering a dog.

    Today we’re getting into how putting yourself and your ideas out there can land you a prestigious nomination like one at the WGA Awards, how to balance long term strategy with short term opportunity when deciding what career decisions to make next, and how to take calculated risks when pitching new ideas.

    BREAKDOWN:

    2:15 - Maggie’s favorite “Serial Killers” episode, which was nominated for a 2025 GA Award

    12:00 - how to find balance when working with very dark material

    13:30 - the decision to do audio-only for a podcast episode vs. video podcast

    16:00 - proactively submitting for a WGA award nomination

    19:49 - First Deadline mention by name

    20:07 - WGA Awards experience!

    31:43 - How to stand out in a comptitive industry

    34:30 - Other Spotify shows: “Dog Tales,” “Tales,” “Mind’s Eye”

    39:00 - advice for screenwriters considering podcasts

    43:50 - Balancing writing podcasts with other writing passions including sketch comedy and novels

    49:40 - Early jobs: ghostwriting people’s responses on Tinder

    51:20 - Getting paid to write individual jokes on the now-defunct “Pitch” app

    54:50 - Thoughts on TikTok & comedy

    57:30 - Advice for persevering in this career + not wanting to be a manager

    1:06:12 - TIME CAPSULE

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  • EPISODE BREAKDOWN

    0:00 - Intro

    6:00 - Why Baldoni & Lively probably won’t go to trial

    6:40 - Publicity vs. PR vs. Marketing

    7:59 - Looking at things with a critical eye & documentary subjects saying “no”

    10:10 - North West, Kim Kardashian, Kanye West & “The Lion King” at the Hollywood Bowl

    12:58 - Amazon Prime’s publicist dramatization in “Flack”

    15:00 - the advent of the “influencer”

    16:25 - Real stories of publicist shenanigans from my time at the Hollywood Reporter

    22:45 - more Hollywood stories

    23:26 - studios/companies telling actors things to say to promote a film, including fake stories. Case study: Suicide Squad & Jared Leto’s crazy “gifts”

    38:33 - Failed publicity stunts - Balloon boy (2009), Jussie Smollett (2019), Morton Downey Jr. (1989)

    54:18 - how you’re being tricked by social media creators

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  • EPISODE BREAKDOWN:

    4:10 - Wildfire impact on production insurance, bonding, & building materials

    11:30 - Stay in LA Campaign

    20:17- Practical implications: a game of attraction, not demands

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  • Evan McGahey, staff writer on Season 8 of Outlander, breaks down how he worked his way up in TV from support staff to staff writer; how he recently sold his original TV pitch to a major studio; and what he predicts with future writers given Hollywood's contraction and battle over A.I.

    EPISODE BREAKDOWN:

    1:30 - Writing a first episode of Outlander

    3:00 - Lessons from writing an episode after working as writers room support staff

    4:20 - Experience co-writing an episode with another writer

    5:00 - How Evan landed a support staff role on Outlander

    7:26 - How Evan made the connections who ended up referring him for the interview

    10:00 - How to sell an original show to a major network

    15:45 - Choosing a production companies

    17:06 - Landing a manager

    18:30 - Co-writing a pilot

    20:10 - Getting started in TV writing: first jobs—

    26:20 - Writer’s PA vs. Writer’s Assistant: how to maximize each job

    28:20 - Why Evan chose Outlander over staying at NBC’s The Black List

    35:00 - We Survived ’til ’25, now what?: How to navigate the current contraction as a writer

    39:50 - Writers vs. A.I.

    43:40 - From going to USC to become a doctor to switching to pursuing screenwriting with a biology degree

    44:00 - underGRAD

    47:46 - Having a dedicated creative space for working

    50:50 - TIME CAPSULE

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  • In this episode, guest Becca Mann joins to discuss New Year's Resolutions - what makes them actionable, when to share them, and thoughts on submitted resolutions from people on both coasts!

    BREAKDOWN:

    1:30 - Becca’s professional swimmer update!

    3:30 - Resolutions vs. goals: family, work, hobbies, emotional/spiritual, bucket list items

    4:42 - Discernment: what excited me, what drained me, what did I learn?

    5:45 - Navigating social media

    8:20 - Rebecca’s update

    12:20 - Save money & spend time with loved ones

    13:30 - Goals you can control vs. ones you can’t

    16:50 - Quit a bad job

    19:25 - Find a full-time job

    20:00 - Not sure what to resolve

    21:32 - Direct another feature or more shorts for anthology feature

    23:50 - Vote for “The Last Ranger” from Darwin Shaw!

    24:38 - Find a home for comedic scripts

    25:33 - Is a “resolution” actionable?

    26:23 - Get more direct-to-client work

    32:45 - Bartend in order to work on writing

    36:40 - Write another feature and pilot

    38:00 - Should you tell people about your goals?

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  • Juan Luis Bravo has worked as a storyboard artist in animation for shows like Star Wars: Young Jedi Adventures and LEGO Dreamzzz.

    Today het gets into the steps from a digital media specialist making corporate videos to storyboard artist for a Star Wars based show; how to actually yield results from networking events; and how to tap into your power as a member of a marginalized community.

    EPISODE BREAKDOWN (updated - 2:36 is actually 1:43)

    1:43 - Young Jedi Adventures: years in the making!

    2:13 - Starting off as a Digital Media Specialist internally at Disney

    4:52 - Getting aggressively poached from a show

    1:27 - What’s the best way to follow up/advocate for yourself with a new connection?

    13:27 - How to get someone to want to help you

    18:07 - Landing & leveraging a first job toward your long-term goals

    23:52 - Identifying opportunities for further education past college

    26:57 - How to decide to leave your “steady” job to pursue your dreams - and convince the next hiring manager you can do it (leaving helping to cut Marvel animatics to pursue storyboarding)

    33:07 - Cultivating relationships from college into long-term professional relationships

    34:47 - How to balance being direct about what you want without being an egomaniac

    39:17 - Friends from college making the Black List

    40:27 - How to say what you want

    44:37 - The right questions to ask in a cold email or mentor outreach

    46:33 - Living situation impact on creativity

    49:22 - If you hate LA


    50:17 - Were there moments of wanting to quit?

    57:52 - How to tap into your power as a member of a marginalized community

    1:00:55 - TIME CAPSULE

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  • Devin Berko is a producer at the Walt Disney Company, entrepreneur and matzo ball enthusiast. He moved to Los Angeles in 2018 after running a successful production company and has since focused on creating diverse content, whether through his work as a food photographer, commercial producer, or director.

    Today Devin gets into how to get hired by Disney and what Disney corporate producers look for in a director and production company to work on commercials for the Disney parks, faking a documentary to propose to the love of your life, and the philosophy he adopted from his fianceé that will give you the best shot at getting what you want.

    EPISODE BREAKDOWN:

    1:15 - start

    1:35 - Devin’s job at Disney producing commercials for the Disney Parks

    3:35 - Tiana’s Bayou Adventure!

    4:55 - From making TikToks for a company to working with Disney IP

    7:05 - Being a part of something bigger

    10:33 -working inside a bureaucracy / large company

    23:15 - set your own path; short-term opportunity vs. long-term strategy

    29:45 - wedding company gets ghosted

    34:05 - Producing for TikTok

    35:25 - When is too late to start? (Age)

    38:45 - The “get-out-of-bed” rate

    41:55 - Don’t Ask, Don’t Get

    44:45 - How to get hired by Disney

    51:15 - Matzoball Documentary

    56:25 - Faking a documentary to propose

    1:01:03 - TIME CAPSULE

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  • Rebecca Doyle and Michael Ritter react to submitted career regrets and how to avoid them yourself!

    EPISODE BREAKDOWN:

    1:30 - Not coming to LA earlier

    6:10 - Not avoiding drama

    9:35 - Not taking digital seriously + creative PR for indie films and digital vs. traditional

    23:00 - Not begging for your job back?

    27:38 - Not saving more money

    29:30 - Not pursuing acting as a child

    31:44 - Leaving a TV assistant job to go write samples alone

    34:12 - Picking the wrong gig

    36:20 - Focusing too much on a day/high-paying job and not making time for personal creative projects with friends

    38:44 - Being convinced by an agent to turn down a conscripted writing job

    40:48 - Don’t burn bridges, even if the people suck

    41:35 - Accusation of interview questions

    42:03 - Leaving an office job to pursue personal stuff + not seeking mental health support earlier

    43:18 - Focusing too much on personal projects and not taking more union high-level work early

    44:25 - Getting an entertainment-related education

    45:26 - Getting sidetracked in reality TV

    46:20 - Allowing senior employees to create insecurity

    48:20 - Not making your own content

    48:30 - Not stealing Michael Eisner’s rolodex

    50:55 - Worked with (bad) influencers

    52:24 - Not doing corporate or agency time early on

    54:14 - Not asking for help

    55:26 - Snippy comments / picking this industry at all

    56:05 - Sign with ICM instead of CAA

    57:05 - Choosing VFX as a career

    57:55 - Hollywood is the hardest thing, so we got this! - But start your S-corp early

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  • EPISODE BREAKDOWN:

    1:00 - The question: if you’re making six figures, how did you do it?

    1:40 - Have a good attitude

    4:38 - To diversify or not diversify?

    14:08 - Freelancer —> tech / marketing / entrepreneur

    16:55 - $100k+ as a DP - with rates ##

    19:16 - Have multiple projects in various phases + be careful of talker$

    22:30 - Does having multiple projects help burnout?

    23:17 - Work on long-running shows

    23:38 - Apply for government funding (Canada, Europe etc.)

    26:08 - Pay bills with branded + build portfolio

    32:50 - A dissenting opinion!

    33:30 - Meeting 2 of 3 criteria for taking a project

    35:40 - Getting hired through DPs + good attitude ($500k+)

    37:50 - Work insane hours + go out and get what you want

    38:27 - Get referrals, the jobs find you

    39:20 - Cold email

    39:58 - Music videos —> self-funded features?

    41:10 - Union DIT

    42:29 - Corporate videos

    43:20 - Building a portfolio, following up on connections years later

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  • Tiffany Kim Stevens's feature directorial debut, Trigger Happy, is currently finishing its festival circuit and will have its Southern California premiere at the Newport Beach Film Festival on 10/18/24 and 10/24/24. Tiffany is a USC alum and currently managed by Gavin Lurie and Najeeb Khuda at Zero Gravity Management.

    Today we are getting into how Tiffany ended up finding financing for her feature in Silicon Valley, the key things to have in place for a fruitful relationship between director and writer and how a business proposal ended up landing Tiffany representation as a director at Zero Gravity.

    BREAKDOWN:

    2:00 - Tiffany’s feature directorial debut, Trigger Happy

    3:45 - Landing funding and distribution

    10:30 - The key element to a good working relationship with a writer

    15:40 - Signing with Zero Gravity Management after pitching a movie business plan

    19:00 - Steps of working with managers on the next big project

    21:10 - Tiffany’s early directing endeavors + short film

    30:12 - How living in LA impacts creativity / social capital culture

    33:33 - What to do if you’re just starting out

    35:00 - Are film fes=tivals worth it?

    39:35 - TIME CAPSULE

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  • Gorby Shih is a director and producer whose work includes "Killer Maid" for Tencent Pictures, which is being adapted into a TV series for Legendary Entertainment; and two drama series for app ReelShort. Gorby has his BA in Film & Television Production from USC (2014) and his MFA in Creative Producing from Columbia University (2024).

    Today we’re getting into different ways to land attention on your work and directing jobs, how the market in China has changed over the years and what pieces you should have in your portfolio to be a sought-after director. Let’s jump into the interview.

    BREAKDOWN:

    2:37 - Directing vertical content: business model, story structure differences, company players in the game

    11:40 - Is digital media just a stepping stone?

    20:20 - What should a director have on his or her reel to land these jobs?

    22:00 - Going back to film school + becoming a director vs. creative exec vs. producer

    25:46 - Making a short that led to signing with UTA and moving to Beijing to direct

    31:27 - Directing his first feature for Tencent in 14 days (“Killer Maid”).

    37:20 - Gorby’s origin story + how represents

    40:00 - What are people doing who have left the industry?

    43:00 - Script “Sinuous”

    48:12 - How accolades affect receptivity to your script or new project

    50:05 - The best way to “network”

    1:01:35 - TIME CAPSULE

    KEEP UP WITH GORBY:

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    REEL:

    https://vimeo.com/951351677/c15853b64a?share=copy

    WEBSITE: www.gorbyshih.com

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  • Today’s guest is Parissa Koo, an actress, singer, and model who has appeared on the Disney Channel, USA Network, Funny or Die, For the Record Live Onstage, Pixel Playhouse, and the Norwegian Cruise Line Escape. You can catch her in commercials for Capital One, Freeform, and Chevron but more imminently - this weekend in HBOhNo
It’s a Musical!

    Today we get into the often overlooked place to find jobs in entertainment, how to make a first impression that leads to lasting collaboration, and the one question you should ask while trying to network.

    BREAKDOWN:

    2:30 - HbOhNo
It’s a Musical!

    5:30 - Meeting a longterm collaborator on a cruise ship

    8:00 - The key to creating a lasting relationship

    10:00 - Creating your own work, taking control of your art

    14:00 - Liking genres that aren’t see as “high art” (shoutout Glenn Powell)

    19:25 - Say yes, stay in touch - people come back around

    21:00 - be genuine in networking

    23:00 - rejection: push harder or walk away?

    24:30 - What to ask for when networking!

    27:00 - Auditioning for American Idol

    31:50 - Auditioning for the Glee Project & getting noticed by Robert Ulrich

    33:10 - Deferring & then skipping college + signing to Osbrink

    35:00 - Auditioning for Mulan (vs. Jamie Chung)

    35:50 - Auditioning for Deadpool without knowing

    39:50 - Gaining perspective through geographic distance from the industry

    41:04 - YouTube surpassing Netflix for TV watch time and: Pixel Playhouse!

    46:00 - Balancing short-term opportunity with long-term strategy for a career

    50:10 - TIME CAPSULE

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  • Reviewing stories of people who created their own opportunities when there were none to give you some hope & inspiration during this slow time in the industry!

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  • From PAs running to crafty for a honey crisp when asked for a "half apple" to interrupting Martin Sheen mid-take - today we dive into true stories of the funniest newbie mistakes on film sets.

    CONNECT WITH SPECIAL GUEST CO-HOST MICHAEL RITTER:

    Instagram: @mkritter / @29goingonbreakdownLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michael-ritter-filmmakerIMDb: https://www.imdb.com/name/nm5778236/

    Watch "Those About to Die" now on Peacock!

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  • Jonathan is a Berlin-based Creative Technologist and entrepreneur who stands at the forefront of digital innovation in the media sector. He is the founder of Berlin-based AI software startup Wavery, which specializes in advanced AI-supported transcription technologies designed for the needs of filmmakers and audio professionals. Previously, he developed innovative VR narratives at WITHIN in Los Angeles. He is a graduate of the University of Southern California and Berlin’s Film University Babelsberg KONRAD WOLF.

    Today we get into moving to Europe from the United States as a film creative, how to build a network when you know no one in your new country, and how to take advantage of funding, grants and incentives Europe has to offer.

    BREAKDOWN:

    2:00 - Moving to Germany with a remote job in VR for quality of life

    5:20 - Getting European government funding and grants for projects (both narrative + startups)

    9:00 - Working as a creative technologist - from VR to AI and volume walls

    12:00 - German x American workflows + expertise

    14:00 - Startup Wavery - AI-powered transcription service for filmmakers

    17:09 - Process of getting government funding for Wavery

    18:20 - Getting his business partner a visa to live in Europe alongside a government-funded project

    21::15 - the rental market conundrum in Berlin

    26:54 - working on feature film “Interior” in Berlin

    28:50 - documentary project in development “Not Coming Out” + winning development money in France

    29:30 - Finding money in various government funds in Europe: tax credits, fixed grants, awards system

    32:30 - Where does an American who wants to move to Europe to work in film start?

    39:22 - Working in VR from the ground floor

    46:30 - Emerson film vs. USC non-film

    49:55 - Quality of life affects your creativity

    52:25 - Persevering through hard times

    57:56 - TIME CAPSULE

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    IG: @jonathaan12

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  • Rebecca Doyle and Becca Mann break down some of the worst career advice they've received and that was anonymously submitted by TV writers, assistants, directors, 1st ADs, and crew members in Hollywood.

    BREAKDOWN:

    1:31 - “Know your place”

    3:13 - “You should be anxious all the time”

    8:06 - “Work your way up from the bottom”

    11:05 - “Do the DGA Apprentice Program to become a director”

    12:54 - “Hide who you are”

    15:39 - “Keep your head down”

    18:36 - “You need good gear to make a good movie”

    21:11 - “Don’t gain experience in more than one field”

    24:37 - “Play it safe and stick with a stable job”

    28:35 - “Just wait for the right opportunity to come”

    29:35 - “You gotta burn 15-20 bridges in this town”

    31:38 - “Listen to others”

    33:27 - “Collect those days and become an AD”

    34:35 - “Do the programs or volunteer PA”

    36:42 - “Stay in the Navy”

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  • In this episode we interview four current artists in residence at St. Joseph's Home for Artisans, the only operating Catholic artist residency in the United States, in Boston, MA.

    We talk through how to balance filmmaking with other aspects of vocation, how faith can help in the pursuit of a creative career, and overcoming our individual obstacles (from healing from Guillain Barré syndrome, to navigating being a first-generation Mexican American storyteller).

    BREAKDOWN:

    2:47 - FERNANDO J. LIMBO III - Residency Co-Founder from Boston, MA

    5:44 - Finding peace to cultivate creative freedom

    6:35 - Co-creating with your Creator

    9:18 - Co-founding an artist residency: the origins of St. Joseph’s Home for Artisans

    15:35 - Fernando’s ongoing recovery from Guillain-BarrĂ© syndrome

    19:20 - CLARE MCCALLAN - Residency Founder, author, TV writer & host from Boston, MA

    19:53 - Work-life balance?

    20:35 - Consideration of family goals vs/and career goals, especially for women

    22:48 - Advantages of having faith in artistic careers

    29:04 - PATRICK LEHE - Screenwriter & producer from Los Angeles

    30:28 - Not staking your entire identity on your career / successes and failures

    39:11 - BENJAMIN SUAREZ - Filmmaker from Atlanta, GA

    40:13 - Surrounding yourself with people who inspire you

    30:50 - Atlanta vs. LA or NYC

    44:37 - One question to ask yourself to discern filmmaking as part of your vocation

    45:48 - Overcoming barriers to pursuing filmmaking as a first-generation Mexican American

    CONNECT WITH THE RESIDENCE:

    www.StJosephsHomeforArtistans.com

    IG: @stjosephsartisans

    CONNECT WITH FERNANDO:

    IG: @fernandojlimbo

    CONNECT WITH CLARE:

    www.ClareMcCallen.com

    IG: @clare_mccallen

    CONNECT WITH PATRICK:

    www.patrickjlehe.com

    IG: @pjlehe

    CONNECT WITH BENJI:

    IG: @benjisuarezfilms

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  • In this episode we dive into how you can be using A.I. today as a filmmaker, current WGA and SAG guidelines post-strike, right of publicity a la the Scarlet Johansson / OpenAI dispute, and the context around copyright (how do you protect your own and not violate anyone else's!).BREAKDOWN:

    2:13 - Ways you can start using A.I. to help you as a filmmaker

    22:10 - WGA & SAG guidelines for A.I.

    29:42 - Right to Publicity (ScarJo x OpenAI)

    35:51 - Copyright - who owns what you “made”?

    MENTIONED MATERIALS: WGA on AI: https://www.wga.org/contracts/know-your-rights/artificial-intelligenceSAG on AI: https://www.sagaftra.org/files/sa_documents/AI%20TVTH.pdf"The Town" Episode on Scarlet Johansson vs. OpenAI: https://open.spotify.com/episode/6s1j9JYviMUrRb8mcYeR3C?si=e160db88cf4c4537When Photography Wasn’t Art by Jordan G. Teicherhttps://daily.jstor.org/when-photography-was-not-art/How Photography Pioneered a New Understanding of Art by Eva Silvahttps://www.thecollector.com/how-photography-transformed-art/Read with me: Intellectual Property in the New Technological Age 2023 Vol. II Copyrights, Trademarks and State IP Protections:https://www.amazon.com/dp/1945555254?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_detailsCONNECT WITH THE SHOW: All platforms: @NoSetPathShowbio.site/nosetpathwww.NoSetPathShow.com