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* Max’s idea that Bitcoin startups often hold their balance sheets in USD and BTC, with varying levels of Bitcoin exposure.
* The majority of Bitcoin-focused companies have some exposure to Bitcoin, and this exposure depends on the founder's preferences.
* The conversation highlights the importance of non-custodial wallets and the impact of recent developments in the eCash space on Bitcoin adoption and scalability. Nostr's potential for decentralized identity and its role in the tech industry.
* The value of open source software and its impact on the community
* The intersection of ideology, technology, and community building within the context of Nostr and open source software.
* Nostr as a public commons for metadata
* open source and commercial business models
* Decentralization of energy markets and the future of technology
* The intersection of technology, energy, and market intelligence
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* nsec.app is a web-based solution for key management in the Nostr ecosystem.
* It implements the Nostr Connect protocol, allowing users to remotely access their keys.
* The goal of nsec.app is to simplify key management for new users and make it more accessible.
* Other apps, such as Amber Android app and Gossip client, also support Nostr Connect.
* The conversation discusses the idea of usernames and the onboarding process for new users. nsec.app allows users to log in to various apps using their Nostr keys
* nsec.app provides customization options for app developers
* Nostr can be used as an identity layer for non-interactive apps
* Future roadmap includes features like importing existing keys and a hosted version of nsec.app
* Open source development allows for long-term focus and collaboration.
* Blossom is a protocol for decentralized media serving that ensures censorship resistance and verifiability.
* npubs can be used to abstract away the traditional DNS system and create a more Nostr-native internet.
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Takeaways
* eCash is a layer on top of Bitcoin that aims to improve the user experience of Bitcoin payments
* Static messages in eCash allow for one-click payments without the need for complex invoice processes
* Stable eCash tokens enable the representation of stable value on top of Bitcoin
* Boardwalk Cash is a platform that facilitates the sending and receiving of eCash tokens Boardwalk Cash allows users to send money easily by creating tokens and withdrawing to a Lightning address or invoice.
* Mints can be trusted or swapped, depending on the user's preference.
* Sharing a link is a convenient way to send eCash to someone, and they can claim it by clicking the link.
* Boardwalk Cash has various use cases, including incentivizing engagement on social media platforms. Nostr has the potential to be used for digital payments and tips through zaps and a zap wallet that is dollar-denominated.
* Using recognizable currencies like USD in Nostr can help overcome the hurdle of understanding and using Bitcoin.
* The stable cash feature of Nostr bridges the gap between stablecoins and Bitcoin, allowing for limited volatility and easy adoption.
* Remittances and incentivizing engagement through payments are potential use cases for Nostr.
* Platforms like Discord can benefit from integrating Nostr for easy and instant payments. Mints can be tailored to specific functionalities or user needs, ranging from mints that support all features to mints that focus on specific use cases.
* Relay operators can play a role in the eCash ecosystem, potentially running mints or providing specific functionalities like storing messages.
* Open source components are important for the growth of eCash, but there are also opportunities for commercial models to drive adoption and fund marketing efforts.
* Targeting new users and creating experiences that demonstrate the benefits of eCash over traditional payment systems is crucial for adoption.
* Potential use cases for eCash include Discord payments, game shows, and AI agents.
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The more Nostr-specific stuff starts around 52:37.
We spent the first hour catching up on the following: walks, AI/Nostr/Lightning Hackathons, Max's interest in Ancient Civilizations, n00b podcasting tips from another n00b, intros to bitcoin, bitcoin ETF, Solar/Wind/energy
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where we talk about Nostrasia, Bob's Prisms, building businesses in AI, AI to build custom software, StackerNews and Territories and The Network State, nostr search, prediction markets
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where we talk about PWAs, Nostr Browsers, DVMs, GPUTopia and more
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I got a chance to catch up with Hodlbod, one of the original client developers on Nostr. We started by talking about how he sees his work on Nostr through the lens of Christianity (and his new podcast Thank God For Nostr which goes deeper on that). We also went deeper to discuss how much relay selection should be visible to users and how relay commoditization and competition might work in the future. Finally we did a deep brainstorm around relays and how they could fit into a Subreddit-like/Zine-like thing on Nostr.
1:05 Thank God For Nostr
5:50 Ira Glass - on creative work
9:51 Christianity and Nostr
30:30 Relay selection and visibility
39:49 Commoditization of relays
51:58 Gossip model
1:08:53 Subreddit-like things/Zines on Nostr
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Minds.com is one of the original approaches to building a social networking service that seeks to empower users with more freedom (e.g., free speech, portable identities, etc.). Beginning over 10 years ago they’ve evolved the service to play a role in the modern architecture we’re exploring with Nostr. After Bill’s recent appearance talking about Nostr on Joe Rogan’s podcast we got a chance to dig deeper on the key philosophical and technical principles behind their work and how they think about Nostr. We were also lucky to include Mark Harding who is CTO of Minds.
0:00 Opener
0:42 DK intro to convo
1:34 Minds - philosophy and exploration of nostr and other open source projects
4:04 What’s important when evaluating open source technologies?
4:20 3 Pillars: Sovereign Identities, Interoperability, Portability
6:45 Minds history with various technology approaches
9:42 adapting centralized approaches to decentralized technologies
19:00 why email signup is needed for spam prevention
24:28 will there be “one ring to rule them all”?
28:39 web5, Dorsey
30:27 schema-first approach
32:34 AT-protocol
35:12 fiatjaf’s feat of magic
36:37 a possible Minds fit in the nostr world
38:27 Verified Credentials
42:23 NFTs, token-gated community
44:22 making money on Minds
50:00 Minds business/community funding/advertising
56:30 Some final thoughts on interoperability and portability
57:12 Collaborate with Minds! https://gitlab.com/minds
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0:00 the warm-up/welcome
4:15 making zaps work without support
10:55 new use-cases Max is following - Pablo’s data vending machine
29:30 software development changes based on AI
47:50 Nostr documentary
50:09 Danny/Deezy - Astral Desert - open source ordinal mosaic
53:00 lighting labs l402 - lightning payments for npm packages
1:03:37 Can Threads (Facebook/Meta) be good for open ecosystems?
1:11:45 Max’s broader concerns about social media
1:23:15 should we be experimenting with more centralizing forces to test the edges?
1:27:55 focus on UX - Primal, for example
1:30:16 antibodies in bitcoin
1:41:20 local, open-source, AI inference, webGPU
1:48:59 quickly experiment with monetizing some data/service
1:54:45 Jeff launched http://ostrich.work - job board
1:55:35 Gigi/Opensats, Nostr grants announced - roll call!
1:58:15 long-form video/audio content to chop to short - Highlighter relevant 💡
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In this recap of the past month we catch up on the Damus/AppStore conflict, what could go wrong with Nostr, what Nostr needs next to break out, and how might alternatives to the AppStore work.
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Jeff G is no stranger to the nostr development community. We first met in person at Nostrica earlier this year. This was fun to finally lay down a video together where we cover his move from the US to Italy and how his orange/purple-pill is going in his remote mountain village. We also learned about his beliefs on how we can help Nostr succeed faster, how he decided to go “all-in” on Nostr, what he’s building with Listr, and his ideas to spur education and to improve developer experience with NDK.
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0:00 moving from the US to the mountains in Europe
6:10 orange/purple pilling the neighbors in Italy/EU
11:00 attract developers/designers/creators instead of regular “users”
21:25 going all-in on Nostr
31:47 venture funding, grants, consulting… many paths
36:29 educational resources for nostr
38:14 Lists on Nostr
46:57 progressive decentralization possible?
51:01 data is the new “oil” or “liability”
55:05 Listr as micro-app vs. site
59:16 Keystr - key management with everything orchestrated as a micro-app
1:03:00 NDK - Nostr Development Kit
1:05:25 onboarding new users
1:10:10 onboard developers
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Hodlbod was so early to building in this space that he almost built a competing social media protocol, but once he found Nostr he decided it was sufficient for his needs. So instead he built one of the first big Nostr clients called Coracle. He’s excited about pushing the art forward on building for community and messaging use-cases and is “going all-in” on building on Nostr.
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0:00 Hodlbod on his nostr journey
9:18 Relays with topics, read/write rules
14:38 Coracle
22:17 Search
26:16 NIP-95 - relays as images hosts
31:30 Decentralization and pragmatism
39:46 Relays should have routing function for things like search services
46:20 Coracle’s future - FUTO fellowship
52:05 Bluesky vs. Nostr
1:01:25 Hodlbod’s decision to “go all-in”
1:13:00 Blowwater - https://blowater.deno.dev
1:18:10 Source control idea
1:20:00 OpenSats
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0:00 bitcoin Miami - big Nostr energy
6:18 Wolf Lightning Accelerator
14:34 supercycle of compounding tools - Nostr + AI + Opensource
21:00 Lightning payments from/to Machines
29:55 AI/LLM decentralization/open
38:37 "Open" AI
39:48 Curated Feeds by @brugeman
54:55 Dhruv Bansal - Will AI Dream of Electric Bitcoin?
1:07:07 Scenius on Nostr: https://kk.org/thetechnium/scenius-or-comm/
1:14:15 Hack Nostr On
1:15:47 fiatjaf relay showcase based on PoW
1:19:25 Damus one-tap zaps and zap payment split
1:26:43 Podcast Highlighter by Karnage
1:28:54 Highlighter product updates!
1:31:39 SimpleX - private messenger https://simplex.chat/
1:36:00 app stores, micro-apps, super-apps
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0:00 Q&A on "trust rank", "trending/top" posts
7:44 Nostr Lists and architectures for pluggable ranking services
15:41 dumb relays vs. content-centric relays
26:15 Nostr.band for various data services
33:10 Nostr.band as a micro-app
40:08 App Store obsolescence
43:08 Granularity of micro-app
47:02 What is an Operating System?
53:52 https://nostrapp.link
58:47 Nostr is the Super App
1:04:15 fun of developing on Nostr
1:11:45 Artur's new app idea - kids video feed
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GSovereignty is host of the popular Nostr podcast Nostrovia. In this episode we turn the tables as the host becomes the guest and we learn about his Nostrocket project, China, organizational design, bitcoin versus power, making money on nostr, and how to get started building.
0:00 DK kicks it off with a spicy Cardano troll inquiry from the audience
9:05 G's motivation
11:06 G's choice to live in HK
13:56 Internet/Nostr in China
20:42 Nostrocket, Amdahl's law
26:12 what's the point of contributing to legacy civilization right now?
31:26 Nostrocket on Organizational design - holocracy
38:19 Nostrversary - on Going All-In
42:39 bitcoin isn't fixing the world fast enough
47:06 honeymoon phase of bitcoin vs. powerful people
50:18 US attempt to overpower network?
54:44 China, hashpower
1:10:05 Developer ecosystem growth
1:11:30 Making money on Nostr
1:14:11 How to get started developing on Nostr
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3:20 @RobertKennedyJr joins Nostr!
13:07 Podcast audio consumption into Nostr Notes with @gsovereignty
18:51 #proofofwalk app idea
24:04 WayMo Love 💜
29:14 AI - will it be decentralized?
36:08 How to build the Hivemind with Nostr?
39:35 Private Groups on Nostr
44:00 Bluesky is a scam - @fiatjaf
47:11 @max’s on faith, complexity, and emergent behavior
52:55 does Nostr need the defensiveness of bitcoin?
1:05:20 Nostr Wallet Connect on @damus - @jb55 @bumi
1:09:00 ZapPlanner - periodic payments in bitcoin - https://habla.news/a/naddr1qqxnzd3cxvmryvpjxc6rxwpkqgsyv47lazt9h6ycp2fsw270khje5egjgsrdkrupjg27u796g7f5k0srqsqqqa282e7u34
1:11:40 Unpopular Zap Opinion - @karnage
1:20:30 creating a game to welcome new users
1:24:15 list to view feeds by collection of people (demoed Nostr.band with Amethyst) - @brugeman @vitor @jeffg -
https://listr.lol
1:32:47 Nostrasia registration - @mcshane
1:34:00 Bluesky visualization shared by @rabble - we need this for Nostr!
https://bsky.jazco.dev
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0:00 computer science and professional baseball
4:03 2017 bitcoin and "crypto" pulling his interest, cut from Cardinals
7:00 bitcoin engineer: BitGo, CashApp (Square/Block), Deezy
14:28 government, regulatory
19:46 running one of the largest lightning nodes
29:10 nostr, ordinals, lightning?
31:19 Deezy - how to decide the focus of the company?
35:52 Midjourney
42:49 💡 nostr + AI + lightning - crowdfund AI art
1:00:42 decentralized order books, ordinals
1:32:45 algorithms in social
1:35:26 Primal - discovery services
1:37:04 - NosFT website
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