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  • Reading People: Exploring Personality with Anne Bogel

    · 00:40:55 · Pantsuit Politics | Two women, a conservative and liberal, talk news & politics. No shouting. No insults. Plenty of nuance.

    Anne Bogel, author of Reading People: How Seeing the World Through the Lens of Personality Changes Everything, host of What Should I Read Next?, and the creator of Modern Mrs. Darcy, joins Sarah to discuss personalities.  Thanks to ModCloth for sponsoring today's episode!    

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  • The JCPOA (Iran Agreement), Mayim Bialik on Feminism and Weinstein, and Nuanced Relationships

    · 01:19:35 · Pantsuit Politics | Two women, a conservative and liberal, talk news & politics. No shouting. No insults. Plenty of nuance.

    On Capitol Hill, it feels like the gap between parties is increasingly wide. But across America, Republicans and Democrats build lives, homes, and families together every day. Today, we’re talking about how houses don’t have to be divided when you’re in a nuanced relationship.    Thanks so much to the sponsors of today's episode: Crane & Canopy, ThirdLove, and ModCloth.    We begin with a discussion on the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (the "JCPOA") and President Trump's unwillingness to certify that this agreement on Iran continues to be in America's best interests. We talk about Congress's options in light of Trump's decision.    As we continue to learn more from Harvey Weinstein's victims, we discuss Mayim Bialik's controversial New York Times editorial on being a feminist in Hollywood.    To compliment the other side, Sarah praises Secretary Mattis for his mature and measured service in the Trump administration. Without knowing his politics, Beth compliments Cameron Gordon, a former NFL player in training to be a police officer.    Many listeners responded to our call, started by Chelsea's email, to discuss being in relationships with people from the other side of the aisle. We loved hearing from and talking with so many people and take a few minutes to reflect on what nuanced relationships can teach America.    We end, as always, by talking about what's on our minds outside of politics. Sarah is in the packing mode. Beth is unsubscribing from email lists.           

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  • LGBTQ+ Advocacy in the Trump Era

    · 00:45:40 · Pantsuit Politics | Two women, a conservative and liberal, talk news & politics. No shouting. No insults. Plenty of nuance.

    While Sarah enjoys some time with family, Beth covers listener feedback on Harvey Weinstein and Class Dojo and shares an interview with Alana Jochum, Executive Director of Equality Ohio. Alana discusses advocacy for both legal and lived equality, the challenges presented by the Trump administration, and how she works to change hearts and minds to create a more inclusive society.  Thanks so much to ModCloth for sponsoring today's podcast. 

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  • Harvey Weinstein, Masculinity & Mass Shootings, and Facebook, Trump, and the Attention Economy

    · 01:01:50 · Pantsuit Politics | Two women, a conservative and liberal, talk news & politics. No shouting. No insults. Plenty of nuance.

    Russian agents bought Facebook ads targeted to voters in crucial swing states in last years elections, and the implications of the attention economy on our democracy go far beyond 2016. We focus on Facebook, Twitter, and the devices we use to distract ourselves from discomfort.    Thanks so much to the sponsors for this episode: Baublebar, ModCloth, and Virtue Labs.    We start today's podcast discussing an article on why mass shootings tend to be committed by men. We also talk about the Harvey Weinstein story and the bizarrely partisan reactions to that story. We note that the transactional nature of masculine energy seems to be taking shape in the spat that Donald Trump is having with Senator Bob Corker.    To compliment the other party, Sarah commends Senator Dean Heller and other Republicans who have urged ATF to review standards on the sale of bump stocks. Beth compliments Senator Dianne Feinstein for her long-term service and work on gun safety measures.    For our feature topic, we discuss why Facebook, Twitter, and Google are so effectively and perhaps unintentionally transforming our politics and brains. In our discussion, we cite the following resources:    How Information Overload Robs Us of Our Creativity    Our Minds Can Be Hijacked   Mindful Resistance    The Attention Economy and the Demise of the Middle Ground    Pema Chodron on Dunzi    Realizd app   We end, as always, with what's on our minds outside of politics. Both of us are thinking about clearing space to make room for things that make us better.             

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  • Guns, God, and the Culture Wars

    · 00:40:31 · Pantsuit Politics | Two women, a conservative and liberal, talk news & politics. No shouting. No insults. Plenty of nuance.

    The Las Vegas shooting seems to be fueling rather than calming the culture wars. We talk about how God and guns do not have to tear America apart.  Thank you to ModCloth for sponsoring today's podcast.  We discuss listener feedback, why gun sales spike after mass shootings, and how "thoughts and prayers" has become a cultural lightning rod.  If you would like to help Las Vegas victims and their families, our listener Megan shared this link: https://www.gofundme.com/dr2ks2-las-vegas-victims-fund.     

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  • Las Vegas, Puerto Rico, and American Consumerism

    · 01:13:48 · Pantsuit Politics | Two women, a conservative and liberal, talk news & politics. No shouting. No insults. Plenty of nuance.

    We're heartbroken over the mass shooting in Las Vegas. We recorded this episode on Monday morning (October 2), so we share our initial thoughts. We also discuss the humanitarian crisis in Puerto Rico, and we share Sarah's interview with Joshua Davis. Thanks so much to today's sponsors: Modcloth, Ellevest, and Wunder Capital.  The preliminary reports out of Las Vegas have confirmed that the shooting near Mandalay Bay is the worst mass shooting in American history. Since information is developing, we focus on our reactions to tragedy, the conversations in our country around gun violence and gun control (and this episode of Vox's The Weeds), and how we interpret comments about "evil acts" and "thoughts and prayers."  We also react to President Trump's statements, actions, and tweets regarding the absolute horror unfolding in Puerto Rico.  As a continuation of our conversation about consumerism in American politics, we share Sarah's interview with Joshua Davis, author of From Head Shops to Whole Foods.  We end on a lighter note, discussing, as always, what's on our minds outside of politics. Beth needs everyone to know how good The Lazy Genius podcast is. Sarah is reading Hillary Clinton's book and working on her move. 

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  • #TakeAKnee Part 2 + Oprah Talks with Michigan Voters about Donald Trump

    · 00:51:29 · Pantsuit Politics | Two women, a conservative and liberal, talk news & politics. No shouting. No insults. Plenty of nuance.

    If the Trump presidency is teaching us anything, it’s that Americans have some deep psychological issues to sort out. We continue working through our patriotic therapy in today’s episode.    Thanks so much to our sponsors, ModCloth and Ellevest.    We discuss intense listener feedback to our conversation about President Trump's remarks on NFL protestors. Why is this discussion so hard? What do our reactions say about race in America and our military?    We continue this conversation by reacting Oprah's recent 60 Minutes report from a Michigan focus group.     

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  • #TakeAKnee: Kaepernick, Curry, and Trump

    · 01:17:20 · Pantsuit Politics | Two women, a conservative and liberal, talk news & politics. No shouting. No insults. Plenty of nuance.

    America’s favorite sport has become the latest arena for partisan politics. We discuss the President’s statements on the NFL and the relationship between race, politics, and patriotism. We also talk about North Korean policy continuing to play out via Twitter and the incredible suffering Puerto Rico. We end the show with what's on our minds outside of politics--including Sarah's home purchase and an article on accidental killings that touched Beth.    Thanks so much to our sponsors for today's episode: ThirdLove and ModCloth.    North Korea has started referring to President Trump as "Mr. Evil President." Its foreign minister says that sending missiles to the US mainland is "inevitable," and the President tweeted that North Korea might not exist much longer if it continues this kind of rhetoric. Side note: we're grateful for professionals continuing to support this administration's foreign policy apparatus and concerned that they might exit around the one-year mark.    We wish we had the right words to express the angst we feel for our fellow Americans in Puerto Rico. Days after Hurricane Irma, Hurricane Maria destroyed 90% of Puerto Rican's homes, took down power lines and internet, and created floodwaters ten feet high. We also talk about continued recovery efforts in Texas and Florida. We're particularly inspired by The Lady General Foundation's efforts.    We send our thoughts to Nashville in the wake of a church shooting on Sunday.    We discuss President Trump's remarks in support of Luther Strange in Alabama over the weekend and how his comments on whipping votes might impact future negotiations.    To compliment the other side, Sarah highlights the work of Republican Puerto Rican Congresswoman Jenniffer Gonzalez-Colon. Beth thanks Democratic Ohio Representative Nickie Antonio for sponsoring House Bill 160, making Ohio's non-discrimination laws more inclusive.    We discuss the President's comments about sports, race, and patriotism in depth. In our (not atypically!) wide-ranging discussion, we discuss what we know about football and concussions, how players responded to the President's words about Colin Kaepernick, our listener Mandy's blog post on how the White House belongs to the people, and how race influences our perspectives on protests and players.    We end by celebrating Sarah's home purchase (don't miss Sarah's home-buying, -selling, and -renovating journey on Patreon). We also discuss Alice Gregory's article on accidental killings.       

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  • Trump's UN Speech, North Korea, Graham-Cassidy, and Listener Feedback

    · 00:35:42 · Pantsuit Politics | Two women, a conservative and liberal, talk news & politics. No shouting. No insults. Plenty of nuance.

    President Trump addressed the UN this week. We discuss his remarks, the continued debate on Graham-Cassidy as a last ditch effort to repeal the Affordable Care Act, and listener feedback.  First, we celebrate reaching our first Patreon goal that will allow us to produce The Nuanced Life series. We're so excited and extraordinarily grateful. If you'd like to support our work and access our secret garden of bonus content, visit our Patreon page. Thank you, thank you, thank you.  And thanks to Modcloth and VirtueLabs for sponsoring today's episode.  Before discussing foreign policy, we take a moment to acknowledge the devastating earthquakes in Mexico City. Unfortunately, Mexico City is uniquely positioned for more disasters.  We talk about the speech President Trump made to the UN, in which he promised to totally destroy North Korea if necessary and talked tough about Venezuela and US sovereignty. We discuss the contradictory mix of intervention and isolation the President promised as well as the tendency on the part of Americans to forget what we "get" in exchange for our global involvement.  Next, we discuss the Graham-Cassidy bill and the inexplicable inability of legislators to make a policy case for it.  Finally, we discuss listener feedback on our Title IX conversation and Erin's question on how we do it all (and whether that's a question that we should ask each other).   

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  • Freeman High School Shooting, St. Louis Riots, the Graham-Cassidy Healthcare Plan, and Tax Reform

    · 01:11:36 · Pantsuit Politics | Two women, a conservative and liberal, talk news & politics. No shouting. No insults. Plenty of nuance.

    Republicans have promised tax reform by the end of the year. We talk about tax policy, the Trump plan, and the goals of our tax code. We also discuss the tragic shooting at Freeman High School, the reactions to Jason Stockley's acquittal, and the healthcare plan proposed by Senators Graham and Cassidy. We end the show with thoughts on parenting and the Emmys.  We're still interested in hearing about your nuanced relationships! Send a voice memo to sarah@pantsuitpoliticsshow.com about your partnership with the other side. And we're less than $100 away from producing a spinoff series on nuanced living. Please head over to Patreon to support Pantsuit Politics and access all of our patrons-only content.  Thanks to today's sponsors: ModCloth, Crane and Canopy, and Wunder Capital.  Freeman High School. Sadly, Caleb Sharpe, a 15-year-old sophomore entered his school in Rockford, Washington, with an assault rifle and a pistol. He killed one classmate and injured three others before Joe Bowen, a janitor and military veteran, heroically intervened.  Sharpe, who had given indicators that he was a danger to himself, said he intended to teach a lesson on bullying.  St. Louis. In 2011, Jason Stockley, a police officer at the time, killed Anthony Smith during a drug stop. Following a bench trial, a judge acquitted Stockley of first-degree murder. We discuss the facts and the fallout from this verdict in a city struggling with racial tension and economic angst.  Graham-Cassidy. Republicans are scrambling to pass healthcare reform in advance of the September 30 fiscal year end in order to set the table for tax reform. Senators Lindsay Graham and Bill Cassidy have proposed a new version of "repeal and replace" that would turn over funding and control to states. This Washington Post article succinctly explains the differences between various healthcare reform efforts and the Affordable Care Act. We discuss the issues with this plan and urge listeners who oppose the plan to take it seriously.  Compliment the Other Side. Beth compliments Senator Elizabeth Warren for working on legislation that would allow individuals to implement a credit freeze for free. Sarah compliments Congressman Will Hurd for comments on his recent Pod Save the World appearance.  Tax Reform. We take a deeper dive into tax reform today given the administration's stated goal of passing comprehensive tax reform by the end of the year. As Ryan Lizza describes in an excellent New Yorker piece, approximately every 32 years, we take a swing at simplifying and modernizing the tax code--making 2018 ripe for the task. We reference T.R. Reid's book, A Fine Mess: A Global Quest for a Simpler, Fair, and More Efficient Tax System, throughout our discussion.  Individual income and payroll taxes make up approximately 80% of federal revenue. Six Republicans (Mitch McConnell, Paul Ryan, Gary Cohn, Steve Mnuchin, Orrin Hatch, and Kevin Brady) have been working on the broad principles that would underlie comprehensive tax reform. Paul Ryan's proposal for a border-adjusted tax has come off the table. Orrin Hatch has proposed paying for part of contemplated tax cuts by passing more taxes on to shareholders, but House Republicans aren't excited about that plan. The President has proposed cutting the corporate tax rate to 15%, eliminating most deductions/tax expenditures, and reducing individual income taxes as follows:  Current Income Tax Rate   Trump's Tax Plan  Income Levels for Those Filing As: Income Cap Gains Single Married-Joint 10 - 15% 12% 0% $0-$37,500 $0 - $75,000 25 - 28% 25% 15% $37,500 - $112,500  $75,000 - $225,000 28 - 39.6% 33% 20% $112,500 + $225,000 + Source: The Balance: Trump's Tax Plan and How It Would Affect You Tax reform is obviously complex. (For a somewhat snarky but informative look at various tax proposals, check out this Forbes piece.) We discuss the objectives of tax policy and how we would approach a comprehensive look at taxes, the budget, and the deficit. Personal notes. We end the show by talking about Beth's adventures in parenting and Sarah's take on the Emmys.    

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  • The Briefcase: Transylvania University's DACA controversy, Betsy Devos, and Hillary Clinton

    · 00:47:54 · Pantsuit Politics | Two women, a conservative and liberal, talk news & politics. No shouting. No insults. Plenty of nuance.

    Our alma mater is in the news for a truly heartbreaking reason. We continue our conversations about campus harassment and DACA in today’s episode Reminder to send us your nuanced relationship stories. You can record a voice memo and email it directly to us! Also, please help push us over the finish line on our Patreon page - where Sarah has launched her own House Hunters: Paducah Edition if you want to follow along! Here's the actual House Hunters set in Paducah she mentioned in the show. Thanks so much to our sponsors for this episode:  ModCloth is your go-to spot for fashion as unique as you. Whip up your wardrobe with quirky prints and classic silhouettes. Make every day extraordinary by going to modcloth.com and entering the code PANTSUIT to receive $30 off your purchase of $100 or more.  We discuss the recent DACA "deal" between Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer, and Donald Trump - as well as the recent internal polling with Democrats. DACA become suddenly very relevant considering a recent controversy at our alma mater Transylvania University.  We also heard from lots of y'all who have trouble giving Betsy DeVos the benefit of the doubt and the difference between skepticism and cynicism. We also talked about "levels of guiltiness" in sexual assault.  We also discuss Hillary Clinton (again) and the electoral college.

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  • Our Interview on Sounds Good with Branden Harvey

    · 00:58:44 · Pantsuit Politics | Two women, a conservative and liberal, talk news & politics. No shouting. No insults. Plenty of nuance.

    In this conversation, Branden, Beth and Sarah, talk about bringing a distinctly women-centered perspective to the conversations happening around politics, intending only to learn from each other rather than walking into the discussions trying to win. CONNECT WITH BRANDEN Instagram Twitter Facebook

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  • Betsy DeVos, Title IX, and a Whirlwind Week in Washington

    · 01:11:31 · Pantsuit Politics | Two women, a conservative and liberal, talk news & politics. No shouting. No insults. Plenty of nuance.

    This week, Betsy DeVos announced her intention to open a process that will lead to changed regulations for publicly-funded campuses responding to sexual assault allegations under Title IX. We discuss this announcement, a variety of social media hot topics, and Sarah's trip to Washington D.C.  Please consider supporting Pantsuit Politics through a monthly contribution that will allow you to access the secret garden of content on Patreon. We'd also love to hear from you if you're in a relationship with someone who has completely different political views than you. Email your voice memos to sarah@pantsuitpoliticsshow.com and beth@pantsuitpoliticsshow.com.  Thanks so much to our sponsors for this episode:  Joan Osborne’s brand-new album, “Songs of Bob Dylan,” features 13 Bob Dylan covers that span his entire career – including "Tangled Up in Blue," "Rainy Day Women," "Quinn the Eskimo," and more. For tour dates and more information, check out JoanOsborne.com. Get Joan Osborne’s “Songs of Bob Dylan” now on Amazon. ModCloth is your go-to spot for fashion as unique as you. Whip up your wardrobe with quirky prints and classic silhouettes. Make every day extraordinary by going to modcloth.com and entering the code PANTSUIT to receive $30 off your purchase of $100 or more.  Ellevest is the online investment platform for women where you can invest in specific life goals such as buying a house, starting a business, or retiring comfortably. Ellevest gives you a free financial plan — customized for you, based on where you are now and where you want to go with your finances. Go to ellevest.com/pantsuit to get $100 toward your first funded goal when you sign up with Ellevest.  The Pearls  We briefly review the history of Title IX (also named the Patsy Takemoto Mink Equal Opportunity in Education Act) before discussing Betsy DeVos's announcement that she'll be reviewing and replacing the Obama administration's guidance on campus sexual assault. We talk about the difficulty of grappling with both the criminal and non-criminal aspects of harassment, the impact public discussion has on victims, and the damage that occurs when accusations are proven to be false.  We also talk about some of the topics making the social media rounds:  We don't all need to issue an opinion on Hillary Clinton's book.  It would be great for us to stop blaming weather events on people with whom we disagree. It would also be great to approach climate change discussions through the prism of problem-solving.  The President made a deal with "Chuck and Nancy." Beth wishes we could talk about this without pretending that he has finally pivoted. Sarah hopes he might turn the corner because he loves the positive coverage.  We think it's bananas that anyone describes Colin Kaepernick as "bad for business." This conversation reminds us of an excellent editorial about how there's no perfect protest. To compliment the other side, Beth compliments Senator Dick Durbin for his persistent work on immigration. Sarah compliments the Kentucky Republican legislative delegation.    The Suit  Sarah joined 43 officials and citizens of Paducah, KY, in Washington D.C. for a whirlwind visit. We discuss:  Her experience of the National Museum of African American History and Culture Her discussion with Senator Rand Paul regarding American military action in Yemen Representative John Yarmuth's commitment to collegiality  Her experience of lobbying Secretaries Elaine Chao and Rick Perry  Listening to (health care hero) Atul Gwande discuss the opioid crisis  The Heels  Beth talks about learning from her children that we are all too busy. Sarah discusses her continued house-hunting.   

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  • The Briefcase: Public Pensions and School Funding

    · 00:53:40 · Pantsuit Politics | Two women, a conservative and liberal, talk news & politics. No shouting. No insults. Plenty of nuance.

    Sarah is in Washington D.C. as part of her #CommissionerHolland duties, so this episode features two interviews. First, Beth talks with Angie Ferguson, a Kentucky state judicial secretary (and fellow Phi Mu and Transylvania University alum) about the public pension crisis. Then, Beth talks with Zahava Stadler, Manager of Policy and Research at EdBuild, about school funding, inequality, and new ways to think about education.  Thanks so much to our sponsors for this episode:  ModCloth is your go-to spot for fashion as unique as you. Whip up your wardrobe with quirky prints and classic silhouettes. Make every day extraordinary by going to modcloth.com and entering the code PANTSUIT to receive $30 off your purchase of $100 or more.  Third Love. Stop tugging at your bra straps and second-guessing your size.  Go to thirdlove.com/pantsuit now to get your perfect ThirdLove bra… and try it for 30 days! Angie Ferguson has been with the Kentucky state court system for 13 years. During that time, she has paid into Kentucky's non-hazardous workers' pension system. Angie recognizes that something has to give in our benefits system. She also knows that we aren't paying public workers enough to reasonably expect to shift all of the risk and burden to individuals. She gives us some live Friday feedback in this episode.  Zahava Stadler is the Manager of Policy and Research at EdBuild, a national non-profit focused on bringing common sense solutions to school funding. Zahava and Beth discuss how we accept real property tax funding at the local level for schools as part of the natural order, and, in doing so, contribute to an unequal school system that fails many of our children. 

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  • DACA, North Korea, and Public Pension Crises

    · 00:57:45 · Pantsuit Politics | Two women, a conservative and liberal, talk news & politics. No shouting. No insults. Plenty of nuance.

    Unfunded pension obligations have risen to $1.9 trillion from $292 billion since 2007. Today we talk about public pension systems, partisanship, and problem-solving. In the Pearls, we discuss reports that President Trump will end the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program ("DACA") and North Korea's hydrogen bomb test. In the Heels, we talk about Sarah's upcoming trip to Washington, D.C. and Beth's life decisions.  We had the honor of talking with Branden Harvey for his inspiring podcast, Sounds Good, while we were in Nashville. Check out our conversation on nuance and empathy. We also hope that you'll consider supporting Pantsuit Politics. We're so close to our goal and can't wait to celebrate with a mini-series on living in a more nuanced way.  Thanks so much to our sponsors for this episode:  Away offers high-quality luggage that is designed to be resilient, resourceful, and essential to the way you travel. Available in nine colors and four sizes – including Carry-On sizes that are compliant with all major US airlines – the Away suitcase is lightweight and unrivaled in strength and impact resistance. For $20 off a suitcase, visit Away and use promo code PANTSUIT during checkout! Lola tampons are made from 100% cotton and BPA free applicators (or you can go applicator-free for an even more environmentally-friendly approach). Because you're the expert on your body, Lola's subscription model is completely flexible and customizable. Founded by women and for women, Lola tampons make your month better. Enter the code Pantsuit at checkout to get 60% off your first order.  ModCloth is your go-to spot for fashion as unique as you. Whip up your wardrobe with quirky prints and classic silhouettes. Make every day extraordinary by going to modcloth.com and entering the code PANTSUIT to receive $30 off your purchase of $100 or more.  The Pearls This weekend, reports surfaced that President Trump will end DACA, which President Obama enacted via executive order in June 2012. DACA provides a renewable period of deferred deportation and eligibility for work visas to individuals who meet certain eligibility requirements, including that they entered the United States prior to their sixteenth birthdays and pose no threat to national security or public safety. DACA funds itself through application fees, and a 2016 study found that it has had a positive employment impact for the eligible population. Nevertheless, the President is reported to be living up to his campaign promise to end DACA in six months. We discuss this decision, particularly given the impact it will have on people already suffering from Hurricane Harvey.  North Korea tested a powerful hydrogen bomb on Sunday--its eighteenth missile test since President Trump took office. Through Secretary Mattis and Ambassador Haley, the administration is talking tough. The President himself tweeted a seemingly empty threat about ending trade with all countries doing business with North Korea.  To compliment the other side, Sarah compliments Senator Ted Cruz and Vice President Pence for their efforts in Texas in the wake of Hurricane Harvey. Beth compliments the Democratic governor of Louisiana, John Bel Edwards. The Suit Kentucky is suffering from a crisis around its public pensions, and our Governor, Matt Bevin, has indicated that he's determined to solve this problem. We talk about the crisis in Kentucky and similar situations across the country. We also briefly discuss the history of public pensions in the United States and the questions raised about the nature of work, retirement, partisanship, and problem-solving. Legislatures quietly borrowing from pensions over time, the 2008 financial crisis, and the failure to adequately contribute annually to pensions have all contributed to massive unfunded liabilities. Solving this problem in Kentucky and elsewhere will require multiple constituencies coming to the table, painful cuts, and new revenue.  The Heels  Sarah is heading to Washington D.C. with the Paducah City Commissioners. Beth is making some life changes. 

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  • The Briefcase: Hurricane Harvey, Accidental Courtesy, Fragility, and Resilience

    · 00:41:49 · Pantsuit Politics | Two women, a conservative and liberal, talk news & politics. No shouting. No insults. Plenty of nuance.

    In today's episode of the Briefcase, we talk about the devastating impacts of Hurricane Harvey, the humans lessons we can take from this moment in time, and how and when to discuss the political impact of natural disasters. We also discuss the new documentary, Accidental Courtesy, about a black man who befriends members of the Ku Klux Klan.  Pantsuit Politics wants to put our thoughts into action. Please consider donating to the American Red Cross or another organization. Send us a confirmation of your donation, and we will match donations from the Pantsuit Politics community up to $1000.  Thanks so much to our sponsors for this episode:  ModCloth is your go-to spot for fashion as unique as you. Whip up your wardrobe with quirky prints and classic silhouettes. Make every day extraordinary by going to modcloth.com and entering the code PANTSUIT to receive $30 off your purchase of $100 or more.  Virtue Labs is a new haircare brand with a vision to give everyone the best hair scientifically possible. Six years ago, a group of bio scientists working in restorative medicine discovered an incredible new protein called Alpha Keratin 60ku, which has the power to completely transform your hair. That means more bounce, more shine, more strength, and more life for your hair. Visit Virtue Labs and use the code PANTSUIT for 10% off and free shipping. Before discussing Hurricane Harvey, we wanted to acknowledge the flooding in India, Bangladesh, and Nepal that has killed more than 1,000 people. We send our thoughts to this part of the world.  As we come to understand the causes and infrastructure issues surrounding Hurricane Harvey, we are most struck by the images of kindness and compassion for others coming out of the area. We discuss our desire to harness Americans' propensity for love and generosity in the wake of tragedy to help heal some of our political division.  We also discuss the reactions to Hurricane Harvey--including social media discussion surrounding the First Lady, Joel Osteen, and the President.  Finally, we discuss the new documentary Accidental Courtesy which details Darryl Davis's mission to befriend members of the Ku Klux Klan as he pursues answers to the question, "how can you hate me when you don't know me?" Davis's confrontation with Black Lives Matter activists in Baltimore captures our attention and causes us to think more about the types of conversations that move race relations forward. 

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  • Pardoning Joe Arpaio, North Korea, Hurricane Harvey, and Sex Addiction

    · 01:15:09 · Pantsuit Politics | Two women, a conservative and liberal, talk news & politics. No shouting. No insults. Plenty of nuance.

    As our country continues to feel divisive and unstable, it can be helpful to focus on our shared struggles. Today, our listener, Aubrey, shares her story and offers a nuanced perspective on sex addiction. In the Pearls we discuss President Trump's decision to pardon Joe Arpaio, North Korea's latest missile test, and the devastating effects of Hurricane Harvey.  You can receive lots more nuance by becoming a supporter of Pantsuit Politics. We hope you'll check out our bonus episodes, blog posts, and videos.  Thanks to our sponsors for this episode:  ModCloth is your go-to spot for fashion as unique as you. Whip up your wardrobe with quirky prints and classic silhouettes. Make every day extraordinary by going to modcloth.com and entering the code PANTSUIT to receive $30 off your purchase of $100 or more.  Casper Mattress Casper’s award-winning sleep surface combines supportive memory foams and a springy comfort layer for just the right levels of sink and bounce. Not to mention, its breathable design keeps you cool all night. Buying the Casper is easy. Just order online and it’s delivered to your door in a compact, “how did they do that” sized box. Considering we spend one third of our lives on our mattress, it’s so important to truly sleep on a mattress before committing. That’s why Casper gives you 100 nights to try it out, risk-free. If you don’t love it, they’ll pick it up and refund you everything. Get $50 toward any mattress purchase by visiting www.casper.com/PANTSUIT and using the code PANTSUIT. Terms and Conditions Apply. The Pearls The White House took the concept of a Friday night news dump to new heights over the weekend. We discuss the implications of President Trump's decision to pardon Sherriff Joe Arpaio and what we didn't know about Arpaio. In addition to inflaming racial tensions, the pardon could also impact Robert Mueller's investigation.  After the President claiming during his Phoenix rally that North Korea has started to respect the United States, North Korea launched three short-range ballistic missiles. This news comes as the President signed a directive banning transgender military service.  Although Sebastian Gorka's bizarre departure from the White House made some headlines, we're a little tired of pretending that people AROUND the President are the problem.  We also discuss the Kasick/Hickenlooper Unity Ticket 2020. We send our thoughts to all impacted by Hurricane Harvey. Here is the before and after video Sarah discussed. Beth complimented our friend Haley Stevens, who is running for Congress in Michigan. Sarah complimented Governor of Tennessee Bill Haslam and his position on free community college.  The Suit  Aubrey wrote to us when Anthony Weiner was making headlines to say that she feels sex addiction requires a nuanced discussion. Aubrey's husband is a sex addict, and Aubrey knew this when she married him. As she says, he's her person, and she married him on purpose. Sex addiction makes their marriage complicated, and they are both seeking professional support as they work their way through a struggle more common than we might believe.  The Heels  Sarah describes her blissful experience in a Korean spa. Beth discusses strategies for better organizing her life. 

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  • The Briefcase: A Tale of Two Trump Speeches

    · 00:35:31 · Pantsuit Politics | Two women, a conservative and liberal, talk news & politics. No shouting. No insults. Plenty of nuance.

    This week, we heard from the President about his strategy in Afghanistan. Sarah was impressed that according to several reports the President spoke with soldiers before making decision and Beth reflects that most of her reaction was due to her lack of trust in Trump. We also discuss The Daily's reporting on the long-term strategy in Afghanistan with regard to Pakistan in particular.  Then, we watched him give a 77-minute speech during a campaign rally in Phoenix and talk about Ben Carson's presence and his continued attacks on the media. We also struggle with people continuing to support Trump. We reflect on our reactions to these two speeches.  We also discuss presidential pardons and this great Twitter thread on the subject (also don't miss the moment where Sarah confuses Chelsea Handler for Chelsea Manning!).  We also talk about whether or not the Founding Fathers anticipated Trump.  Our patrons-only bonus episode for August is available for $15+ monthly subscribers. Head over to Patreon to support the show and access the secret garden of content.  Thanks to our sponsors for this episode:  ModCloth is your go-to spot for fashion as unique as you. Whip up your wardrobe with quirky prints and classic silhouettes. Make every day extraordinary by going to modcloth.com and entering the code PANTSUIT to receive $30 off your purchase of $100 or more.  Third Love. Stop tugging at your bra straps and second-guessing your size.  Go to thirdlove.com/pantsuit now to get your perfect ThirdLove bra… and try it for 30 days!  

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  • Confederate Monuments, Speech, and Social Media

    · 00:41:07 · Pantsuit Politics | Two women, a conservative and liberal, talk news & politics. No shouting. No insults. Plenty of nuance.

    Are you feeling like everyone is angry and crazy? We talk about productive ways to discuss Confederate monuments and Donald Trump.  Our patrons-only bonus episode for August is available for $15+ monthly subscribers. Head over to Patreon to support the show and access the secret garden of content.  Thanks to our sponsors for this episode:  ModCloth is your go-to spot for fashion as unique as you. Whip up your wardrobe with quirky prints and classic silhouettes. Make every day extraordinary by going to modcloth.com and entering the code PANTSUIT to receive $30 off your purchase of $100 or more.  Casper Mattress Casper’s award-winning sleep surface combines supportive memory foams and a springy comfort layer for just the right levels of sink and bounce. Not to mention, its breathable design keeps you cool all night. Buying the Casper is easy. Just order online and it’s delivered to your door in a compact, “how did they do that” sized box. Considering we spend one third of our lives on our mattress, it’s so important to truly sleep on a mattress before committing. That’s why Casper gives you 100 nights to try it out, risk-free. If you don’t love it, they’ll pick it up and refund you everything. Get $50 toward any mattress purchase by visiting www.casper.com/PANTSUIT and using the code PANTSUIT. Terms and Conditions Apply. Hello Fresh is on a mission to save home cooking! Their recipes make you feel unstoppable, and your taste buds will thank you! Go to hellofresh.com and enter PANTSUIT30 for $30 off your first week of Hello Fresh!  The Pearls  Steve Bannon is out of the White House, and it took him ten hot seconds to be back in command at Brietbart. The President has named Hope Hicks as his new communications director.  For our compliments to the other side, Beth appreciates Laura Smith for her compelling, chilling look at the role white women play in white supremacy. Sarah compliments Kentucky state senator, Wil Schroder, and others around the country who are calling for the removal of Confederate monuments from state buildings.  The Suit  Listener Kerry wrote to us about the strange world created by social media. How do we interact with loved ones with whom we have primarily digital relationships around controversial topics? We talk about speech, Confederate monuments, and our social media practices.  The Heels  Sarah is traumatized by Game of Thrones. Beth was asked a really thoughtful question. 

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