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As we last left off on The Chosen Ones, we began to take a deeper dive into the groups Lori and Chad were affiliated with. This included The Church of the Firstborn, Preparing a People, and Another Voice of Warning or better known as AVOW.
While each group has an underlining theme of Mormonism, there are still many questions lingering about their beliefs, their intentions, and most importantly, their members. We’ve examined the major key players in the Vallow and Daybell cases and next season, we will review these specific groups. Now, in today’s episode, we take a quick glimpse into these groups and we recently learned of an intriguing tip that may lead us down a path to more discovery. -
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TW: Child molestation, rape, and child murders.
The final guest of our first season is the one and only, Sarah Cailean. Sarah is a criminal behaviorist, investigator, former law enforcement officer, HLN commentator, and was a host and executive producer on the HLN series, Hell in the Heartland. The series focused on the cold case from Welch, Oklahoma that has stumped authorities for two decades, concerning the disappearance of two teenage girls, Lauria Bible and Ashley Freeman. This case is riddled with the mystery of murder, possible police cover-up, and the unimaginable truth. Sarah and Celene Beth discuss multiple cases pertaining to mothers who have killed their children and how some of them mirror Lori Daybell.
You can catch Hell in the Heartland now on HBO Max!
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Please note, this episode discusses child rape. While not explicit, listener discretion is advised.
April and Celene Beth unpack the recently leaked audio of Lori Vallow Daybell stating she wanted to kill Joseph Ryan (her third husband) back in October of 2018. The full audio is played at the end of their interview.
To keep up with all of the latest news on this case, please follow us on Facebook and Instagram at The Chosen Ones Podcast or on Twitter at thechosenonepod. Please be sure to rate, review, share, and subscribe to The Chosen Ones, so more listeners like you can find this podcast!
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Happy Thanksgiving, listeners! Here is the collaboration you have all been waiting for! John and Lauren Matthias, hosts of Hidden: A True Crime Podcast joins TCO for a candid conversation about the Vallow & Daybell case. The Hidden true-crime podcast explores the hidden motives behind unimaginable crimes including the Vallow & Daybell case. Dr. John is a forensic psychologist and Lauren is a long-time journalist. This married couple has dived into the psychological avenues of the Vallow/Daybell cases while examining why serial predators do what they do. You can find their podcast now at:
https://open.spotify.com/show/3mvwYdfADoV1AMz8tA4vXP
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Rick is an American deprogrammer, cult specialist, and founder and executive director of the nonprofit Cult Education Institute. You may have seen Rick on news programs or have seen some of his interviews but most recently, he was featured in the Starz produced docu-series, Seduced, which told India Oxenberg's journey through the dark world of the notorious slave-cult NXIVM. (Also seen in HBO's, The Vow!) Rick has also followed the Vallow/Daybell cases and is a qualified and accepted court expert witness.
https://culteducation.com/
https://www.amazon.com/Cults-Inside-Out-How-People/dp/149731660X/ref=sr_1_1?crid=A71DA95905EI&dchild=1&keywords=rick+alan+ross&qid=1605843441&sprefix=Rick+Alan%2Caps%2C288&sr=8-1
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Sarah’s fight to capture the murderer of her late sister, Alissa, has made big waves in recent months due to her social media campaigns, billboards, Voices for Justice podcast, media interviews, and of course, her iconic TikTok videos. Nearly two decades after Alissa’s disappearance, Michael Turney, Sarah and Alissa’s father, has been charged with second-degree homicide. Sarah joins Celene Beth this week to talk about the work she has done on behalf of her sister, Alissa, and learning about the death of Charles Vallow in her hometown in Arizona.
To listen to Sarah's journey and get info on her advocacy work, please check out https://www.voicesforjusticepodcast.com/. -
This week, Celene Beth sat down with Jim Rathmann, an individual you may have seen recently featured in Discovery ID’s Joe Exotic: Tigers, Lies, and Cover-Up! Jim has a remarkable career behind him and has provided many services to our country. Jim is a former homicide detective, Army Veteran, a United States Secret Service Agent for President, Barack Obama, Vice President (President-Elect) Joe Biden, Republican Presidential Candidate Mitt Romney, former US Presidents, and numerous Presidents and Prime Ministers from around the globe. Jim provides his insight into the Vallow/Daybell case and what it means to be an advocate for the victims, their families, and communities.
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Celene Beth sat down with Dave Cawley, host of the hit Wondery podcast, Cold. The Cold podcast focuses on the 2009 Susan Powell case here in Utah and took a deep-dive into her disappearance. Cold inspired the creation of The Chosen Ones and we admire the work Dave has done on behalf of the victims and his advocacy for domestic violence. Dave is not only an investigative journalist for KSL but a writer, and photographer. Dave and Celene Beth talk about the parallels in the Powell & Daybell cases, as well as advocacy work within the true crime community.
Be sure to check out season 1 of Cold now: https://thecoldpodcast.com/
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Celene Beth and True Crime Underground's, Carl Danger caught up this past week to discuss their experience in Julie Rowe's Seminar, as well as discussing The Church of the Firstborn and the dangerous side of Lori, Chad, and Julie's belief system. To join the True Crime Underground: Lori Daybell Cult Mom Facebook group, please find the link below.:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/tcucultmom
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April Raymond and Celene Beth discuss her experience at the Julie Rowe seminar, including exclusive audio from the event. Please be sure to rate, review, share, and subscribe to The Chosen Ones, so more listeners like you can find this podcast!
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This week Celene Beth checks in with April Raymond about Mark Means' recent tweet about Melanie Gibb and David Warwick and also informs her of an event being held by Julie Rowe on October 24, 2020 in Salt Lake City, Utah. Celene Beth reveals to April that she is attending Julie's event in hopes to find more answers to seek justice for JJ, Tylee, Charles, and Tammy. Stay tuned for Part II dropping on October 30th.
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Tricia Griffith is the owner of the Websleuths website as well as the host of the popular YouTube Channel and Podcast: Websleuths. Tricia and Celene Beth discuss the nuances of websleuthing and how it pertains to the Vallow and Daybell cases. As promised, we will link her Vallow/Daybell episodes on our socials, and be sure to subscribe to her channel & podcast now!
https://anchor.fm/websleuthsradiopodcast
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSiqBuCJlK1uQqE_nV6ehfQ -
This week on The Chosen Ones, we welcome special guest, Polly Kotowski, senior producer for Exactly Right’s The Murder Squad with Billy Jensen and Paul Holes. Polly has produced numerous true crime television shows including, Crime Watch Daily and Dr. Phil's true crime segments! Be sure to check out Jensen and Holes: The Murder Squad now for more true crime content!
To keep up with all of the latest news on this case, please follow us on Facebook and Instagram at The Chosen Ones Podcast or on Twitter at thechosenonepod. Please be sure to rate, review, share, and subscribe to The Chosen Ones, so more listeners like you can find this podcast!
**This is a Conveyor Media production. Host, Celene Beth Calderon, executive producers, Colin Whelan, Rebecca Sirmons, writer, Celene Beth Calderon, sound editor, Jacques B., and music by Mickey O’Brien. And a very special thank you to Polly Kotowski. -
To continue honoring JJ and Tylee, we suggest a donation to the Organization for Autism Research or The National Center for Missing and Exploited Children.
https://researchautism.org/get-involved/make-a-gift/donate/
https://www.missingkids.org/supportus/get-involved
Sources:
KUTV 2
Idaho State Journal
East Idaho News
KTVB
Fox 13
Crime Online
Law and Crime
Piano Dreamers
Jay is 4 Justice Podcast
Dateline
Annielytics.com
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Please note, this episode discusses sexual assault and child abuse. While not explicit, listener discretion is advised.
To keep up with all of the latest news on this case, please follow us on Facebook and Instagram at The Chosen Ones Podcast or on Twitter at thechosenonepod. Please be sure to rate, review, share, and subscribe and catch our season finale, Dear Angels, on October 2nd.
Sources:
EastIdahoNews
Annielytics
Fox 10 Phoenix
Inside Edition
Nancy Grace
97.1 ZHT
Fox 10- Justin Lum
CBS 5 AZ
Fox 13 Salt Lake City
Spokesman-Review
U of M Health
Crime Online
azfamily powered by 3TV & CBS5AZ
East Idaho News- Nate Eaton
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Please note, this episode discusses domestic violence and molestation of children. While not explicit, listener discretion is advised.
Lori Norene Cox was born on June 26, 1973, in San Bernardino, CA. Lori’s previous marriages have all carried troubling and dark allegations from domestic violence, child molestation, demonic husbands, and a self-righteous cult leader.
Sources:
Phoenix 10 KTVB Gilbert PD Rexburg PD Crime Online Dateline KTVB East Idaho News Inside Edition Fox 13 News True Crime Online Post-Register Annielytics.com KSL TV Law & Crime Justin Lum Cathy Russon Time to Warrior Up Podcast
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Please note, in this episode, we will be disclosing how JJ and Tylee were found. We understand this may be triggering for some of our listeners and with that, listener discretion is advised.
June 9th, 2020, Rexburg PD, along with the Fremont County Sheriff’s Department and FBI, a search warrant was executed for a second time on Chad’s property in Salem, Idaho.
Sources:
Idaho Press
Oregon Live
Annielytics.com
East Idaho News
KUTV
Court TV
KSL News
ABC4 News in Utah
Local News 8 in Idaho
Justin Lum: Phoenix 10 News
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Please note, this episode has modified names for privacy concerns among Chad and Tammy’s family members. We also reference a pregnancy complication that may be triggering for some listeners, while not explicit, listener discretion is advised.
Chad Guy Daybell was born in Provo, Utah. He attended Springville High School along with Tammy Douglas, his future wife.
Sources:
Dateline
Wikiglobals
Mormonarts.lib.byu.edu
Annielytics.com
KSL TV
Kivitv.com
Deseret.com
Heraldextra.com
Insider
Cdaybell.com
Fantastic Fiction
Wheatandtares.org
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April Raymond, a name you may have heard in recent months due to her previous friendship with Lori Vallow Daybell. April met Lori, Charles, Tylee, and JJ in Kauai, Hawaii back in 2015. April and Lori continued their friendship through the spring of 2019. April began to realize her friend that she met back in her church was no longer the loving, charismatic, Lori she once knew.
Sources:
Twitter: Justin Lum of Fox 10 Phoenix News
Court TV
**Special thank you to Timothy John Psarras for this week’s episode.
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