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There's been much talk lately about the so-called Web 3.0 sparking debate as to whether it is indeed the future of digital communications (Facebook's or rather ‘Meta’s Mark Zuckerberg certainly thinks so) or rather an over hyped concept driven by brands struggling to maintain relevance, and indeed revenues amid growing competition (Zuckerberg would of course tell you it’s not.)
If we take a wider look at the various technologies analysts tell us define Web 3.0 – or the metaverse - there are actually many that CIOs and other tech leaders should take seriously.
The internet of things (and expanded IoT – yes that’s also now a thing) virtual reality and especially augmented reality, and of course digital twins for example.
The ideas of decentralised control and individual ownership are firmly embedded in Web 3.0 as well. And regardless of whether you think blockchain and NFTs have been overhyped, it’s hard to argue they’re not going to have some role to play in the future.
In this, our final episode, we talk with Jonathan Kempe, founder and CEO of supply chain tech startup Shipz, and Johnny Serrano, CIO alumnus and global CIO at Australian mining safety company, Ground Probe, about the various opportunities - real or imagined - presented by Web 3.0, the realities of what’s been achieved to date and what we might expect to see in terms of its impact on businesses and industry in the future. -
Organisations in the public and private sectors were faced with a once-in-a-century crisis, with CIOs and their teams thrust into the front line, delivering digital solutions in quick time that undoubtedly saved countless lives, while changing healthcare forever.
In this episode we talk to Richard Taggart, executive director digital health and innovation at Sydney Local Health District, one of Australia’s largest public health corridors, and Alan Pritchard Director of EMR and ICT Services, with Victorian public health agency Austin Health.
Two genuine warriors of digital health in Australia – and, fittingly CIO50 alumni – they discuss what they and their teams accomplished in the trenches throughout the pandemic, from managing the surge of COVID-19 cases and rush for vaccines, standing up telemedicine and virtual hospitals, transforming systems for managing patient data, and what all of this will mean for the future of digital healthcare, assuming that we will one day be in a post-pandemic world. -
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It’s that time of year again, with nominations now open for the CIO50 awards both in Australia and in New Zealand.
The program is now in its 7th year down under, and has been running for four years across the ditch, creating a proud and growing alumni group underscoring the high calibre of technology leaders operating in this part of the world.
In this episode, David Binning speaks with CIO Australia's editor-in-chief, Byron Connolly, and CIO New Zealand's editor, Cathy O'Sullivan, about their respective CIO50 programs for 2022.
Who should enter and how, what this year's judges are looking for, plus explanation of some exciting new categories that reflect the evolving nature of technology leadership in this part of the world. -
Earlier this month this was a good deal of excitement – probably mixed with horror for some – following ‘revelations’ in the tech and indeed mainstream press that one of Google’s chat bots had become sentient.
The call – or rather we might say alarm – was raised by software engineer, Blake Lemoine who asked a number of questions of the LaMDA chat bot he had been working with, which communicated several eerily-human responses including its desire to be considered a person with feelings and to be formally recognised as an employee at Google.
LaMDA stands for the Language Model for Dialogue Applications and is a family of neural language models developed by Google.
In internal memo to some 200 Google staff, Lemoine described a chat bot he’d been working with as a seven-year-old child that wants the world to be a better place for all.
Suffice to say Google issued a prompt response dispelling the idea that it was sentient, with Lemoine placed on forced leave.
Leaving aside all the predictable analogies with sci-fi books and films, the incident does raise interesting questions about the current capabilities of AI systems and what we might expect to see in coming years.
We already have voice-driven systems – as well as chatbots – able to discern customer sentiment, so it’s not too farfetched to imagine more emotionally intuitive and responsive systems, say supporting sales and marketing, as well as health, in particular mental health.
Tune in to hear a fascinating conversation with Tathagat Banerjee, founder and CEO of Sydney-based startup Video Translator AI, as well as Julien Eps, head of the School of Engineering and Telecommunications with the University of NSW and a member of the NSW Smart Sensing Network.
As you’ll hear, while true sentience – itself a debatable term – is no doubt a stretch, Blake Lemoine’s experience serves to remind us that AI has nevertheless come a long way in a short period of time, with exciting new applications that effectively mimic human capabilities already in use. -
We’re coming up to almost two years since the first episode of The CIO Show, which was a two part series discussing how Australian organisations were progressing with artificial intelligence. The scorecard was less than glowing, with much lower confidence and greater fear than most other developed economies.
Fear arising both from perceptions of AI as something super complex and other worldly, and from the rising chorus of voices concerned that the ‘machines were coming’ and jobs, life as we know it was under threat, all amid a seeming torrent of ethical and legal challenges – real and imagined.
On the other end of the spectrum, many organisations still viewed AI as some sort of panacea, increasing pressure on tech leaders to deploy solutions that had it written on the tin, with inevitable disappointing results. Lack of consultation and buy from the c-suite and wider workforce was among many other problems cited as impeding the progress of AI across Australian enterprises.
So where are we now? Joining us to try and answer this far-from simple question is Michael Ciavarella, former CIO with Swimming Australia and now CTO with online fashion retailer, A&S Labels, Professor Michael Blumenstein, Deputy Dean research and innovation with the University of Technology, and Louise Francis, ANZ country manager and research director with IDC. -
It’s been just over a year since Australian media giant Nine was rocked by a major ransomware attack pushing its head of IT and the company’s first true head of cyber onto a true war-footing.
Coming amid a sharp rise in cyber attacks throughout the pandemic, it nevertheless delivered a jolt to many Australians, seeing such an established and recognised brand fall victim to something like this. As we know the attack led to some broadcast and other operations being seriously disrupted, as well as an almost 3 percent dip in the share price as news got to market.
For media tech veteran, Damian Cronan, Nine’s chief information and technology officer, it was a career shaping experience like nothing he’d faced before, kicking off around 2am on the morning of Sunday May 28 last year. By his side was the newly appointed group director of IT security, Celeste Lowe, one of Australia’s most respected cyber experts.
Together they provide a candid and insightful look at how one of Australia’s biggest media companies dealt with its biggest ever cyber threat; how the ‘war room’ was created, what immediate actions were taken, and how the experience has shaped the organisations future strategies and technology decisions. -
The Digital Transformation Agency, or DTA, was established back in 2016 with an ambitious charter to steer the Australian public service towards being a world leader in the creation and delivery of digital services.
Few would argue that it’s fallen well short of that, with a string of high profile projects failing to deliver despite going way, way over budget. The agency has also had a different boss for almost every year of its existence, alarming rates of churn across staff and senior management, and an increasingly secretive and unaccountable culture, as any journalist who’s tried to speak to the DTA can attest.
Several major changes were set in train by incoming chief executive Chris Fechner – who unsurprisingly declined to join us – with the upshot being the DTA is shifting away from actually managing large-scale digital projects to operating in more of an advisory capacity.
Meanwhile, the Australian National Audit Office has commenced its audit into the DTA’s procurement practices, the highly anticipated findings of which are due in September.
In this episode of The CIO Australia Show, we’re fortunate to have three of Australia’s foremost experts on digital transformation in government: Lesley Seebeck, former chief investment and advisory officer at the DTA; Marie Johnson, chief executive at the Centre for Digital Business; and Rowan Dollar, chief information officer, Catholic Education, Archdiocese of Canberra and Goulburn.
All three guests cite various reasons why the DTA has had its day, including arguably the biggest that you just heard at the top of the program. They also share their thoughts on how a more effective and consultative replacement might be created. -
As anyone who follows the Australian CIO50 would know, former Revenue NSW CIO Kathleen Mackay topped the list in 2021 largely for her work in applying AI and machine learning to help develop better systems and processes for identifying - and managing - vulnerable people with outstanding fines.
Somewhat awkwardly for her, Revenue NSW, and if we’re honest us at CIO Australia as well, the NSW Ombudsman released a report late last year concluding that that machine technologies used by Revenue NSW between 2016 and 2019 (Mackay’s tenure was largely after that period) to garnish monies owed for fines were applied unlawfully. The Ombudsman called for significant reforms in how the technologies should be used right across the public sector.
It spawned an inevitable flurry of headlines proclaiming ‘Robodebt 2.0’, and was no doubt viewed by many working in tech as an unnecessary setback on the road to governments harnessing machine technologies to deliver better quality services to people, communities and businesses, and generally improve lives. There are many examples of this happening.
But the Ombudsman report was probably also a wakeup call, reminding us all that governments face unique challenges in deploying AI and ML technologies compared with the private sector, including legal, privacy and political factors that need to be carefully balanced.
In this episode we talk with the NSW Government's chief data scientist, Dr Ian Opperman about his work as one of Australia’s – and the world’s – leading proponents of ethical AI systems, and Jeannie Marie Paterson, professor of law, co-director of the Centre for AI and digital ethics at the University of Melbourne, about the impressive potential – and significant challenges – for better utilising machine technologies across the public service. -
On November 18, the achievements of 50 of Australia’s leading technology and digital executives were celebrated at the Sydney launch of the CIO50 awards program.
In this episode of The CIO Show, the last for 2021, CIO Australia’s editor-in-chief, Byron Connolly, speaks to Dr Steve Hodgkinson, CIO at the Victorian Department of Health, who placed number two in the list, and Helen Clifton, chief digital officer, who placed number three this year.
A CIO5o stalwart, Steve Hodgkinson has been a champion of agile in the Australian public sector He discusses the way technology has been used to help the healthcare sector deal with the worst pandemic in 100 years. He also discusses the impact of the platform+agile approach he developed and how it is being copied by other state government departments, local government councils, and health services.
Meanwhile, the media sector has undergone rapid change in recent years; the effects of digital disruption has been widespread and brutal. The ABC’s Clifton discusses how the organisation uses digital tools in engaging audiences, particularly around the delivery of key community services.
Hodgkinson and Clifton also talk about where they see the CIO role evolving over the coming years as organisations shift to more flexible, hybrid working environments. -
One of the key CIO trends we’ve seen throughout the pandemic is that tech leaders have now come to be seen as business leaders in ways we’ve not seen before.
And as you’ll hear in this episode, to such an extent that it’s likely the role of CIO – including possibly the title itself – will shift even further away from being focussed just on technology, towards being a vastly more integrated role.
But what do CIOs need to do – and know –to be become more effective leaders? And what of those CIOs with genuine ambitions to move into CEO roles?
Cyber security is a key concern for CIOs and those executives charged with hiring them. It’s an area that requires as much of an understanding about governance and compliance as it is about technology these days.
And what about things like business management? Or other disciplines that might indicate a command of soft skills? On that expression – whether you like or not – it might actually be losing its currency as things like emotional intelligence and the ability to understand and manage people become increasingly a given.
Syed Ahmed, chief digital officer with mental health group, Innowell, has augmented his extensive tech credentials and experience with an MBA. He says it’s becoming increasingly important for tech leaders to equip themselves as true business leaders, whether they intend to take on such extended responsibilities or not.
Louise Francis, country manager and research director for IDC A/NZ notes that for those tech leaders that do have higher ambitions, it’s essential that they develop a deeper understanding of change management, amongst other things. -
The property and construction sectors have been among the hardest hit throughout the pandemic, with lockdowns challenging operations at work sites and across the industry, while throwing the broader business of property management into total disarray.
All of this occurred against a backdrop of slower rates of digital transformation when compared with other industries. Well, that’s certainly the perception anyway.
But as you’ll hear in this episode of The CIO Show, at least one of Australia’s leading property and construction companies was well on its ways to implementing a range of sophisticated digital projects before the pandemic, aimed at improving everything from site management, safety, commercialisation and sustainability. And COVID-19 saw those efforts greatly accelerated and refined as the contagion morphed and spread.
In this episode, property giant Lendlease’s joint CIOs David Lipscomb and Harvey Worton talk us through their earliest conversations and initial responses to the pandemic as they contemplated its implications for the global business.
As you’ll hear, the company’s digital response was a big success, aided by the fortuitous division of responsibilities; Worton leading infrastructure and the exodus to cloud, with Lipscomb in charge of product development.
But this division has become blurred over time as various important efforts - predating COVID - to bring about company-wide digital transformation take hold.
Everything from how properties are designed before the first shovel hits to the ground to be smarter and more sustainable with regard to energy and water, to the way workers operate and communicate on the ground to be safer and more efficient, is now influenced by digital.
Concepts that would have seemed foreign just a few years ago like ‘autonomous’ buildings, digital twins and ‘high-fidelity’ development are now part of the everyday language shared between Worton, Lipscomb and their teams as they help chart an exciting new, cleverer future for property and construction. -
Was COVID-19 really been as transformative as many people – especially vendors – suggest? Or has it been more like a scramble, still demanding a proper reset of strategy and priorities to extract real value from new and ongoing technology investment?
The real answer probably lies somewhere in between.
A 2020 report by McKinsey: How COVID-19 has pushed companies over the technology tipping point and transformed business forever, notes that while there have been giant digital strikes taken in the past 18 months – especially in APAC – many senior tech leaders have expressed doubts about the degree to which many of the changes will actually stick.
Worryingly, while 53% of tech leaders surveyed by McKinsey said they expected to maintain COVID-19 levels of spending on cyber security while 27% said they wouldn’t.
And there were similar proportions citing things like remote working, cloud migration and advanced analytics as areas they didn’t expect to sustain at COVID levels.
Dr Ian Oppermann, chief data scientist with the NSW Government and industry professor at the University of Technology Sydney, has led a large and successful program of digital works since before the pandemic. This has held the government in good stead as it sought to maintain and improve services, while enabling a massive exodus to working from home.
Oppermann and his team have been especially busy deploying advanced technologies including AI and ML, which has driven greater appreciation of data within the NSW government, but he admits the challenge for it – and right across the public sector – is ensuring people don’t start thinking “we’re done”. Organisations that have accelerated their digital programs throughout the pandemic now need to embed more “sustainable frameworks” to build on what they’ve achieved and continue deriving value.
Alexey Goldov, associate partner with McKinsey’s technology practice in Australia, notes that COVID has seen many organisations place innumerable “band aids” throughout their digital environments. History shows that sometimes these stop-gap measures remain in place for years or decades, however he says CIOs should conduct a thorough assessment of everything that’s been put in place if they’re to have any chance of maintaining it.
Convincing the CIO and broader executive to maintain support for digital programs born or advanced during COVID is expected to be a significant challenge for CIOs moving forward, as companies look to cut costs, especially as the battle for talent becomes more fierce and more expensive. -
The term ‘best practice’ is certainly one of the most misused in business and technology circles today. At times, one wonders whether it’s almost become a euphemism for never mind the details, and ‘nothing to see here’, while some of the most ill-fated plans can be conceived with the best of ‘best practice’ intentions.
To sensible minds, best practice has a very specific meaning, implying at least a collection of tasks that improve – ideally maximise – the efficiency or effectiveness of the core business and / or a process that supports it. It should also be something that’s able to be executed, as well as being replicable, transferable, and adaptable across industries.
But as you’ll hear in this episode the term best practice is losing its currency and indeed its relevance, as organisations adjust to the new realities of doing business today – with greater agility and ingenuity - and in particular given the large number of massive failures that continue to occur with alarming regularity.
Respected industry authority and CIO Show regular, Rowan Dollar views the term as something that’s often used to claim ‘plausible deniability’ when things go awry, standing almost as a 21st century parody of the famous ad slogan ‘No one ever got fired for buying IBM’.
CIOs serious about steering their organisations through the current turbulence should push back against vendors’ fondness for the term best practice, and demand to know what it means and what they’re paying for.
Dollar says the last 20-plus years have been defined by practices that have become more synonymous with failure than success, with a worrying trend towards neglecting redundancy and resilience – often as cost-cutting measures, magnified during the GFC – now laid bare during COVID-19.
Echoing this sentiment, IDC country manager for New Zealand, Louise Francis feels blind adherence to nebulous ideas of best practice have actually slowed many organisations down, impeding agility and innovation. Yet she highlights sectors from manufacturing and retail to transport and logistics, healthcare and education that were arguably hurt most by the pandemic, as offering examples of heightened agility and resilience that may well help rewrite the playbooks of the future.
Francis also notes that tech success today is increasingly defined by key issues that weren’t priorities when the term best practice entered the mainstream decades ago, in particular ethics, climate change, sustainability and diversity. -
In this land of ‘droughts and flooding rains’, terrifying bushfires, earthquakes and now ever more emboldened cyber villains exploiting the pandemic, having a proper disaster recovery plan is critical to maintaining business continuity regardless of what calamity might befall you and your organisation.
We all know that being offline and/or being denied access to critical data and systems can have devastating consequences, even if only for a few hours, let alone days and weeks.
In this episode we speak with Jo Stewart-Rattray, veteran CIO and now CISO with home-care health specialist, Silver Chain Group, about some of her more exciting experiences working in the trenches in the face of major disasters in various industries. And she shares with us some of her most valuable lessons and advice for tech leaders operating with today’s higher tempo of existential risks.
Joining her is DR, BC and cyber expert Andrew Milroy, principal advisor with analyst firm Ecosystm, who observes that the challenge of business continuity has different contours today, not least of which because of the different technologies now underpinning organisations. For instance, as dependence on the cloud increases, there are also more cloud-based solutions designed to support better DR and BC.
But that’s not very helpful for a company that might have lost connectivity for whatever reason, and nor does it address the fact more and more malicious actors are specifically targeting recovery plans themselves. -
Manufacturing has typically been well behind the pack when it comes to digital transformation. As result, its ability to innovate and cut costs has been limited, certainly when compared with other industries, with Australia – and many advanced other countries – forced to ship more and more manufacturing offshore to Asia and other regions with cheap labour.
Yet there are definite new green shoots in this country with moves afoot within the local manufacturing sector to more fully embrace technologies like AI, the ‘industrial internet of things (IoT) and of course robotics to ensure we’re able to continue actually make stuff that people want and at a sustainable price point.
In this episode we speak with Pepsi Co A/NZ CIO, Brian Green about how the company is tracking with many important digital and data-led initiatives aimed at improving market understanding, supply chains efficiencies, shop floor operations, agricultural outcomes as well as cyber security. And we also get a glimpse into how the company is deploying AR and VR to acquire deeper customer insights, as well as remote execution of highly complex engineering tasks.
Joining him is Stephanie Krishnan, research director for IDC Manufacturing Insights, and a former professor at Wollongong University, sharing her insights into the Australian - and international – manufacturing industries, which she admits have been off the pace when it comes to embracing the best digital tools, yet with definite signs – as we hear from Pepsi’s Green – of improvement. -
It’s now become almost a cliché to state cloud computing isn’t always the cheapest option compared with on premise or some hybrid configuration.
In this episode we’ll be talking about how cloud cost management has now become a core competency for tech professionals today and what CIOs can do to avoid cloud bill shock and maximise the value of their cloud service agreements by ensuring they’re using the right services for the right tasks, as well as turning them off when they’re not using them.
CIO50 alumnus, Ian Robinson, CIO with Water NSW – one of the world’s largest utilities – shares his recent experiences of managing a vastly more complex digital environment that has seen the organisation acquire a large and growing digital footprint.
He says he’s the first to admit that cloud services can be a bit like crack cocaine, explains how he’s taking specially during dev opps cycles, and explains how he’s taking steps to develop a new and robust governance framework while trying to increase general awareness of cloud usage and costs amongst his team.
Also on the show is Gartner VP for CIO research, Chris Ganly who predicts that cost management is on track to becoming one of the most important elements informing cloud planning, procurement and management for those organisations serious about developing effective agile practices in today’s uncertain operational environment. -
In today’s more treacherous cyber security environment, organisations with the biggest targets on their heads can’t afford not to employ a dedicated data security expert, such as chief information security officer (CISO) or similar title, not only to keep the organisation safe from malicious actors – and complacent staff, but also to ensure adherence to the latest laws, regulations and compliance requirements around the handling of data.
Yet even those that do aren’t necessarily achieving the protections they should because of entrenched cultural issues, especially in terms of how boards think about and manage risk.
Many executives remain focussed on financial risk and don’t fully appreciate the cyber variety until a major incident slaps everyone in the face, and then suddenly spending on cyber has a more obvious ROI.
Boards also tend to think that cyber should be part of a CIO’s job.
This is especially the case in smaller organisations that wouldn’t normally budget for a CSIO as well. But even when they do, how clear is it who’s responsible for what and reporting to whom?
Should CISOs operate as independent threat detectors or operate within IT?
Join our host, CIO associate editor David Binning as he speaks with Anna Leibel, former CIO with UniSuper and author of the recently published book ‘The Secure Board’, and Simon Piff, vice president trust and security research at IDC APAC. -
There’s been a great deal of discussion lately about the potential for technologies like artificial intelligence, machine learning and others to reveal deeper insights into workforces.
In much the same way as these tools are being applied to study markets and consumer buying behaviours, they’re now being considered and applied in a small number of cases to better understand workers. How they’re feeling, and of course inevitably what they’re doing.
It makes sense that HR seems to be getting onboard, using technologies like AI for speeding up onboarding of new recruits to charting staff career trajectories, sifting through resumes and even trying to assess staff mental health and morale, and pre-empting staff departures.
Naturally, senior executives are interested to better understand how staff are performing and what might be done to help them be better. This inevitably means developing solutions for knowing what they’re thinking and their movements.
In this episode of The CIO Show we ask: “Where’s the line between what could be done and what should be done when it comes to deploying technology to analyse staff at work?”
We hear from Nicki Doble, group chief information officer at Cover-More; Robert Hillard, consulting leader at Deloitte Asia-Pacific; and Jim Stanford, honorary professor of political economy at the University of Sydney and director of The Centre for Future Work at The Australia Institute. -
Despite being one of Australia’s backbone industries, agriculture isn’t typically associated with digital innovation.
Yet there are incredible changes afoot, bringing digital transformation to the critical task of not only boosting production and animal wellbeing through intelligent application of AI, robotics, IoT and blockchain, but also the critical job of increasing cyber readiness to combat biosecurity challenges as food looms as one of latest threat surfaces.
And importantly for CIOs, it seems as though we may be on the crest of a wave bringing unprecedented tech job opportunities to our beautiful regions as farmers look to digital tools to handle many of the more tedious tasks.
Just over 12 months into his role as the first CIO with Costa Group, Mark Brown relates how he’s wrangling a two-speed digital ecosystem with a view to completely transforming the relationship between food and tech at the Australian fruit and veggie giant.
Joining him is Phillip Valencia, team leader embedded intelligence and senior research engineer with the CSIRO, expanding on the massive opportunities - especially for vertically integrated agricultural firms – to streamline supply chains and affirm provenance using digital technologies.
Ben van Delden, partner, operations advisory head of AgriFood Tech & Circular Economy Advisory with KPMG reckons there’s potential to reap $20 billion worth of additional value a year to the Australian economy.
And all echo the warnings from former Deputy Leader of the NSW Nationals, country boy and now professor of agtech and horticulture with Charles Sturt University, Nial Blair that technology’s role in ensuring food security has never been more vital. -
Managed service providers are an important element of many organisations’ digital efforts, especially for those with limited staff and other resources. But are you sure you’re getting the maximum value from your investment? Does your MSP properly understand your business and business goals? Have you given enough information and taken the right steps to ensure that they do?
According to Jorge Silveira, the Australia-based group chief digital health officer with global healthcare firm Virtus, many organisations are not careful enough to set out the goals and terms of engagement at the outset, leaving them vulnerable to disappointment down the track. He relates the story of a global service provider which secured a large and lucrative contract with a previous employer of which he was the senior member of the tech team.
After a short period of time, key performance indicators (KPIs) started being missed, while the client become harder and harder to contact and when they did respond, it was increasingly junior and/or inexperienced staff the picked up the phone.
In effect, the MSPs original ‘dream team’ brought in to broker the sale had suddenly gone AWOL. It later transpired that in between that period and the contract signing, the MSP won a much larger contract in another Australian territory. And after that, all of the early good will, earnest promises and best intentions went out the window. - Show more
