Episodes
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Every year, Katie Luse writes a fresh script to introduce children to Jesus at summer camps all over the northeastern U.S. This year, the show is themed around God as the Author. Hear what inspired Katie to follow this structure to tell the Gospel story this summer. Darell and Drew start things off talking about how different the "Bedsheet Jesus" productions they witnessed at camp were from today's polished theatrical presentation. Jesus Theater draws on popular music to connect children to the story of Christ and requires only simple costumes, props and set design.
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Our platform glitched on Darell’s recording for the first 25 minutes with no backup. You miss out on his story about Bill teaching him to play a brass instrument, while he was Bill’s pastor at the Boston Kroc Center, and a hilarious recent story about a 12-year-old girl's opinion of Darell's skill playing a horn.
2:00 When did someone first put an instrument in your hands?
9 years old started on baritone, brother (8) started on cornet. They were both taught by Brigadier DaCosta.
6:00 Bill was introduced to Christ and music at the same time.
11:00 Bill received discipleship as well as musical training through The Salvation Army. He talks about key mentors that he had in his life, namely Lt. Colonel William Harvey, Colonel H. Douglas Lowman, Captain (now Commissioner) Jim Knaggs, Corps Sergeant Major Edward Gooding, who some call the Black William Booth
16:00 “My father has never been a part of my life.” -Bill
18:00 Drew and Bill share a heritage of alcoholism and addiction in their families.
22:00 Darell joins the podcast to talk about seeing Darell mentor others and the male mentors he encountered in his journey.
25:00 Bill & Valencia’s move to Boston
30:30 Bill’s second career in music therapy.
32:00 Bill felt he needed more professional education to augment the spiritual authority and wisdom he had.
34:00 How Bill personally felt ministered to, by music, in powerful Spirit-led music.
41:00 Darell asks Bill about his passions outside of music
43:00 “This is what God meant for me. Performing has never been a high passion, it’s always been teaching.”
44:45 Bill talks about who had a passion for music in his family.
46:00 The Pulse
What are you watching?
Stranger Things
Bill’s second cousin, Spike Jordan, had a film debut at this year's Tribeca Film Festival,.
Game Change Game is about the NBA season in the bubble, dealing with COVID and then the racial unrest following the killing of George Floyd.
Listening to
Bill Jessica Williams - Jazz pianist
Drew Reclaimed podcast – ABC News about Emmitt Till and Mamie Till-Mobley
Darell Batman Unburied
Reading
Bill Act Like Men by James McDonald
Battle Cry: Waging and Winning the War Within by Jason Wilson
Drew Hidden Valley Road by Robert Kolker – 12 children, six of them had schizophrenia
Darell Incident reports – Looking for a book on evangelism for an upcoming evangelism
Turning Everyday Conversations into Gospel Conversations by Jimmy Scroggins, Steve Wright, Bennett Leslee
God saying
Bill Trust my wisdom and my permissive will for some of the challenges you have to go through.
Drew Strategic investments
Darell Justice and mercy
Creating
Darell Night lights and a war hammer
Bill Editing and organizing an elder client’s music for publishing
Drew Sydney’s graduation slideshow
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Missing episodes?
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On what turned out to be an 11-hour road trip from Boston to DC, Riley and Drew cover a wide range of topics—mechanical engineering, musical theater and her hopes of a career in themed entertainment. Drew tries out his Mr. T impersonation.
Reading
R Eye of the World – Wheel of Time by Robert Jordan
D The Highway Quartet by CJ Box
Listening
R Abba
D Godfellas pod
Watching
Stranger Things [We didn’t watch it in the car on the way to DC]
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Brittany Parks discovered her love for the outdoors in Flemington, NJ. Then John Copeland inspired her to pick up a guitar. Today, she is a singer/songwriter/worship leader who loves to inspire others to get outside and increase representation of women of color within guitar worship leading circles. We talked wedge monitors vs. in-ears. This is can't miss stuff. She leads with Unbound, with her ride or die friends, Alexa and Emily, and on her own. You'll have to listen to the episode to find out which situation she likes most.
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In this special crossover episode, Drew is the guest on the Godfellas Podcast with Zach and Hannah Smith and Mitch Duperree. Godfellas breaks down Christian media from McGee & Me to Veggie Tales to the Last Temptation of Christ. In this episode, we deep dive on the 1973 film version of Jesus Christ Superstar. We had a blast and think you will too!
If you like what you hear, check out Godfellas wherever you get your podcasts or https://reelboyspodcasts.com/godfellas
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Drew's college buddy and fellow member of Out of the Blue talks about his journey as a Cantor and future Rabbi. Hazzan Steven Walvick talks about his role with his congregation at the East Northport Jewish Center.
This episode, The Pulse gets pretty wild. Enjoy the ride!
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Captain Nate Hinzman: well-coiffed, kindhearted, self-deprecating. You'll want to hear how this thoughtful preacher prepares for Sunday worship.
Darell and Nate talk shop about their respective large-scale youth retreats, known in The Salvation Army as Youth Councils
At the beginning of this podcast, i may have shot us forward in time by a decade. It was a long Monday and I was tired.
THE PULSE
Watching
Nate: NBA Playoff basketball
Drew: Too many to list
Darell: The Last KingdomListening to
Nate: Crime Junkie and Elevation Worship Lion
Drew: Attention: Miley Live
Darell: Kendrick Lamar's new single, Casual Criminalist, Undertow—a Dark Tome StoryReading
Nate: Daily Text by Seedbed (Asbury Theological Seminary); Prodigal God and Generous Justice by Timothy Keller
Drew: Commonwealth by Ann Padgett
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Drew didn't walk all that closely with the Lord during his college days. The theme at this Moth StorySlam was Awards. Did Drew win an award for streaking? Not exactly.
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In this episode, camp director, worship leader, and master storyteller John Copeland uses a truly ridiculous story from his life at camp to illustrate how distracted we can be as we enter into worship. Recorded at the Worship Arts Convocation, March 4-6, 2022 at the Ladore Complex in lovely, downtown Waymart, PA.
The Pulse
Watching
Darell – The Last Kingdom on Netflix
Drew – Winning Time on HBO MaxListening to
DH – Blackout from QCode podcasts
DF – You Made it Weird with Pete HolmesReading
DH – Old sermons
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Growing up, Carol Dilly wasn't the star of her high school musicals. She was "way in the back, in the chorus." An opportunity opened up in her college years that would change everything. Though she wasn't a devout Christian at the time, Carol says looking back, she saw that God was opening a series of doors. When one show or tour was winding down, a door opened, eventually onto the biggest stage on earth. When the time came, God opened a door to theater and arts ministries within The Salvation Army that Carol had never imagined, let alone seen. As she nears another transition, she is looking back on over tow decades of ministry and a lifetime of God's faithfulness to her and her family.
“When God led me through that door 22 years ago, I had never seen theater in church, never seen dance at church. All I knew was that He wanted me to walk through the door.”
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In the interview portion, Jason talks about whether he sees himself more as a pastor/teacher first or as a musician/worship leader. Then he talks about what the difference is between leading worship in front of a band for a large audience versus a solo time of leading worship with a more intimate congregation.
“It’s impossible to be a follower of Jesus without being some form of an artist, because it requires too much faithful imagination.” Eugene Peterson
Not many guests can quote Wendell Berry on agriculture and Thomas Merton on mercy gifts being unpredictable in the same breath.
“Our need for certainty is poisoning us. A real farmer cares more about the soil than the product.” —Berry
“When I thought about the church, I thought ‘wow if there’s anything organic, it’s being followers of Jesus.’ We’ve become so organizational [rather than organic].”
“Jesus walks into deserted places, but the crowds follow him there. And in this deserted place, where the disciples say, ‘There’s no food here. Let’s send them back to the place where all the bread is.’ Jesus says, ‘No I’ve come to move you away from this anxiety-of-scarcity people into a God-of-abundance people. So let’s wait on the what the gift is that God’s going to give. We have this little gift over here, it’s this little boy. He’s got five loaves and two fishes…and even the disciples then are like ‘but Jesus, that’s not enough.’ What does Jesus say? ‘Alright, bring me what you say is not enough.’ That’s the thing about us artists, we always think what God has given to us isn’t enough. So we’re always looking for the more. Because we think that’s what’s going to satisfy. Jesus lifts what’s been given to the Father and says thank you. Because if this is what You’ve given, I already know it’s going to be enough.”
We also shared a message about one of our favorite NGO's with a transformative mission. For more information, visit araincollective.org
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Nicole Costa is Vice President of Operations for Ark Behavioral Health.
We learned a lot this episode: Chiefly, never record a podcast on Zoom with bad internet.
No disrespect to Pookie, Nicole has a professional name, a friend name and a family name.
Tragically, Cole has lost her beautiful singing voice. But what she has done instead of American Idol stardom is far more lasting. After earning her MSW, LICSW, she started her career as an addiction counselor in prisons before moving out of the walls and into recovery settings. She emphasizes the importance of being able to relate to other people with whom you are in recovery. This powerhouse mother of three rambunctious boys has opened three new centers for Ark Behavioral Health in the last five years. She talks about their First Responders program and the fact that opiates are in the news so much because they are more deadly, but that alcohol is still the primary substance for which people seek treatment.
The Pulse
Watching
Nicole: Trashy reality TV and Drew: BasketballListening to
Nicole: Christian Music only, Corey Asbury and Drew: GodfellasReading
Nicole: Not a lot, Drew The Atlantic -
We have something entirely different for you in this episode! Recorded live on Saturday, March 5 at the Worship Arts Convocation, Drew and Darell's wife, Willow, sat down with Commissioner William Bamford, USA Eastern Territorial Commander for The Salvation Army. This was the first convocation in five years, due to the pandemic. Normally on a three-year rotation, this unique conference brings together worship leaders, dancers, actors and technicians for a time of retreat, skill building and deepening spiritual formation.
This far-reaching interview covers topics as diverse as the Commissioner's morning routine in solitude, to The Salvation Army's response to the conflict in Ukraine to Tower of Power and the Doobie Brothers.
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Jason Pope is the founder of Rain Collective, a global collaboration to release and restore women, men and children who have been trafficked.2:00 What is the Rain Collective?
7:30 Rain Collective’s work in Oman with women from Sierra Leone
12:10 What is The Salvation Army World Service Office (SAWSO) and what does it do?
16:45 How does Jason define impact?
25:00 Practically speaking how does Rain Collective effect change from halfway around the world?
30:30 Jason talks about being an outlier as a male involved in anti-trafficking work and why more men are needed.
33:15 Jason, Darell and Drew are fathers of daughters. Jason addresses how that role inspires and affects him in the work that he does.
38:15 Jason loves writing manuals and reports. He talks about the two sides of creation that his work requires.
40:45 Women are the tip of the spear fighting human trafficking.
42:10 Jason talks about the upcoming Rain Collective trip to Uganda.
47:00 Jason provides a menu of ways people can get involved.
www.worldhope.org
www.willowinternational.org/everfree/
www.araincollective.org
The Pulse
Jason – Inside Out Coaching
Drew - "January 6 Was Practice" The Atlantic
Darell – LEGO instructions
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Darell's better half, Willow come on to talk Cricut and hand crochet, Octopus Olympics and reveals which of their offspring is her favorite.
Drew kicked off the podcast asking Willow what single thing she and Darell have created together that she loves most. You will not believe which of their daughters she chose!
8:00 Willow talks about her favorite tool to create: The Cricut
19:00 Cricut isn’t the only way Willow creates. She also hand crochets. Willow tries to create beef in these crochet streets.
28:40 Octopus Olympics and Salvation Army officer candidates
42:00 “Allowing children to be moved by the Holy Spirit is important. I want children, even at the youngest age, to know that Jesus wants a relationship with them”
The Pulse
Darell doesn’t know who any white actors are and claims all Arnetts and all Ryans are the same guy.
Reading:
Darell
The Christian Imagination: Theology and the Origins of Race by Willie James Jennings
What is God saying?
Drew erroneously calls the OT Tabernacle, the Temple. It was the Tabernacle. Mea Culpa.
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Two decades ago, Terrence Green sent Amber Wheeler on a Scavenger Hunt of Love that took her from Eastern Nazarene College to Boston's Quincy Market and is still going strong. This Valentine's Day Special is dedicated to love.
Episode sponsors: Friendly's (not really, but both of these love bugs mentioned this Massachusetts purveyor of ice cream and mediocre food)
BoxerBeardCo on TeePublic or RedBubble
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We've heard of looking for love in all the wrong places. Love Injection by Bang Tango is looking for love in the wrong song. Thrashy metal guitars, nonsense lyrics and and angry vocals combine to create the worst love song ever. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xEcqDAYASro
If you're in the Valentine's mood, check out this new LOVEly design from our friends at the Boxer and the Beard: https://www.redbubble.com/shop/ap/99850270
And you don't have to be alone on Valentine's Day! Join us for a very sweet conversation we are calling The Love Episode.
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We begin this conversation with Doug Berry, Director of Contemporary Music, for The Salvation Army in the Northeastern US with his early music career and his post-college mini-rebellion, Doug's first non-brass band, known as the Handsome Andy Band.
6:15 Unbound (Daniel 3) - more guitars than God Himself
13:00 On COVID creating: “Out of my comfort zone is pretty much everything I do now. The Holy Spirit has shifted things in my life completely to things that are not in my comfort zone.”
18:30 Pardon Drew’s Darth Vader-style breathing over Darell’s question. He had to take a break and literally run his recycle bins out to the street. When his 48-year old out-of-breath body got back in front of the mic, he was too unprofessional to mute himself. A bad omen for later mistakes in this episode.
21:00 How Doug resources and equips local worship leaders through his ministry.
26:30 Technology is no longer merely an add-on, but a necessity for the modern worship experience.
29:15 The value a Worship Committee can add to a congregation
The Pulse – What are you
Watching?
DB Peaky Blinders and The Office
DH Sports and Alter on YouTube
DF Yellowstone – The Sopranos meets Succession in MontanaListening to?
DB Hippo Campus, The Weeknd Dawn FM, Encanto
DH Encanto, Last Known Position
DF INXS, KickReading?
DB New Morning Mercies by Paul David Tripp, The Radical Worship Solution by Austin Ryan
DH Budgets and documents to tell the story of Camp Swoneky
DF Bunker Hill by Nathaniel PhilbrickWhat is God saying to you?
DB Find the hunger for scripture that he had in his early 30s. And Doug is asking the Lord for guidance on how to bring his daughters up to know Him on a deeper level than Doug can even imagine.
DH Hold and secure the footing of those to whom they are ministering.
DF Psalm 51:10-13Creating?
DB A theme song for the revision of the National Junior Soldiers (youth discipleship) Campaign
DH Building things my daughter is drawing
DF Crossover merch between Encanto and politics and Encanto and a favorite family card game on BoxerBeardCo -
Steve Warren talks woodworking, parenting and the sound of silence.
2:00 Steve specializes in one-of-a-kind woodworking projects
3:00 Steve’s first instructor and inspiration in the medium
14:20 “Anyone can make things more confusing, but if you can make things more simplistic, then just beauty resonates from that simplicity. That’s where I want to live and breathe.”
19:20 The intersection of woodworking and obsessive compulsiveness
23:00 Darell “The design phase can take longer than the build phase.”
34:00 The challenge of passing along woodworking skills to your Roblox-addicted offspring.
38:00 Darell asks the longest question in podcast history. It might still be going on.
43:00 What is behind’s Steve’s penchant for building one thing once?
45:55 “Curiosity will apparently kill cats and make you an A/V individual.”
55:00 Drew must admit he messed up in The Pulse. William Barclay is the commentary author who discounted Jesus’s miracles as either made up or non-miraculous happenings that could be explained away by earthly phenomena. Matthew Henry is a good dude.
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This episode @Malcolm4KY joins @dhouseton and @drewforster to discuss the Cleverness Contest that is Twitter.
3:35 Drew is a Twitter Tryhard. 6:00 Malcolm: "What I tweet is me personally" 9:00 How many tweets is too many per day? 10:30 The second worst decision of Malcolm’s life 12:30 Live tweeting TV shows 18:00 Favorite creative tweeters: Malcolm @RexChapman basketball-reference.com/players/c/chapmre01.html; Darell @QCODEmedia Last Known Position; Drew @MommaJessieC 21:00 Twitter depression 23:45 Twitter integrity
Shifting the discussion from 280 characters to 3 points 28:20 Does Malcolm miss the creative outlet of preaching since he changed careers? 34:45 Darell’s frequency in the pulpit
The Pulse Evangeline Lilly's Library of the Soul with Andrew Sumner on Hard Agree
Drew's 2021 Top & Terrible Books
Top 10 (in no particular order
· Crying in H Mart by Michelle Zauner
· The Bomber Mafia by Malcolm Gladwell
· The Scarlet Letter by Nathaniel Hawthorne
· Trejo by Danny Trejo
· Klara and the Sun by Kazuro Ishiguro
· Empire of Pain by Patrick Radden Keefe
· Agent Sonya by Ben MacIntyre
· Sooley by John Grisham
· Astoria by Peter Stark
· The Wettest County in the World by Matt Bondurant
Terrible (in no order, they're all equally terrible)
· The Noble Hustle by Collin Whitehead
· Lieutenant Dangerous by Jeff Danziger
· Kafka on the Shore by Haruki Murakami
· Cleopatra: A Life by Stacy Schiff
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