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Michael Bull, author of Bible Matrix and numerous other works joins Tomer Solomon to discuss the question, "Is the chiastic structure a literary device or does it reflect a deep core pattern of reality?" Tomer draws on his knowledge of Arthur Young's Reflexive Universe and A. N. Whitehead's process philosophy to discuss the isomorphisms of these structures that keep showing up everywhere as scale invariants.
For more information on the Encountering Face to Face conference in Olympia, WA in September, https://estuarynorthwest2024.com
Michael Bull's website: https://www.biblematrix.com.au This is chock full of great resources.
Previous conversation on Bowtie Structures in perception: https://youtu.be/Iz7yC6Ux0Jk
The paper Karen and Ryan were discussing in that video: https://arxiv.org/pdf/2004.09426
METABOLIC PATHWAY MAP. https://faculty.cc.gatech.edu/~turk/bio_sim/articles/metabolic_pathways.png
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Michael Levin, developmental and synthetic biologist from Tufts U meets Jordan Hall, pioneer of disruptive technologies. What's the crossover? Come along to find out!
Timestamps:
00:00 Intro
02:34 Bowtie concept in cognitive systems
08:54 Collective Intelligence and Embodiment
17:15 Markets and Cognitive glue
19:33 Scaling
22:14 Mechanisms of Cognitive Glue
24:47 Identity question
25:12 Mechanisms of Cognitive Glue
29:33 What is OODA?
36:37 Hyperobjects
39:48 Complexity and Effort in Biological and Social Systems
48:05 Patterns and Collective Intelligence
53:17 Nature of Poetry and its relation to Consciousness
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Mangler du episoder?
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Can the price mechanism be seen in biology?
Signups for Olympia Face to Face conference at: https://estuarynorthwest2024.com
Timestamps:
00:00 Intro
23:01 How is the price mechanism influenced by collective intelligence?
27:06 What is the role of subjective value in determining prices?
44:43 How does profit provide different kinds of information compared to prices?
1:03:38 Is inflation an evil force that keeps people down?
1:21:06 What does it mean to witness and observe in the context of economics?
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Olena and Karen explore specific paragraphs of "Maps of Meaning" regarding the implications of individuality and subjectivity in Peterson's teachings, highlighting the complex dynamics in personal growth and interaction with others as well as the nuanced relationship between humility and confidence drawing insights from the work of Dallas Willard, and discussing the development of intuition and its relevance in facing life's challenges. The transformative power of trust and faith in navigating fear and embracing the unknown arises in the midst of finding treasures in chaos, drawing parallels to dragons guarding treasure and emphasizing that valuable treasures are hidden in difficult situations. Additionally, they explore the dynamics of initiation and response, discussing the interplay between active will and response, and highlighting the importance of every individual's unique expression of creativity as a contribution to the wholeness of society. Because of generational differences, discernment is essential in bringing back treasure and integrating it into the community.
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Karen Wong and General Grizwald Grim of the First Ingression Protocol discussed a range of topics, including an upcoming conference in Olympia, WA (estuarynorthwest2024.com).
Conspiracy theories, the educational system, the kayfabe of the American dream, fear, demonic power, and conscious love emphasizing the importance of clear communication, trusted human networks, positive actions, and reliance on Jesus to overcome darkness
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Rafe Kelley, founder of Evolve Move Play and host of a podcast by the same name get together to lay the groundwork for a conference at which they will speak in September.
Timestamps follow info on the conference. https://estuarynorthwest2024.com Olympia, WA,
September 12 through 15. Signups are still available.
Other speakers include Paul VanderKlay, Dr. Chris Green, Dr. Michael Martin and poet Graham Pardun. Hosted by Nate Hile, host of Grail Country podcast.
Timestamps:
00:00 Intro
00:30 Strength and capacity of human body requires love and sacrifice
01:20 Physical and dialogical practices 02:10 Love as a physical expression
05:00 The upside and downside of transformative practices
12:03 Mindfulness practices
19:11 Discussion of Evolve Move Play retreats
13:12 Books John Vervaeke recommended to Rafe Kelley
34:54 How Rafe got involved in this little corner
37:23 Dealing with fear
41:00 Metamodernism
49:15 Rafe's journey towards an exploration of Christianity
1:10:45 The relationship between faith and works
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The conversation between D C Schindler (PhD professor of metaphysics and anthropology) and Jordan Hall (pioneer of disruptive technologies) emphasized the need to bridge the domains of science, philosophy, and theology to gain a deeper understanding of the transcendent and its implications for human identity and the pursuit of knowledge.
Timestamps follow announcements:
Reminder there is still time to sign up for Estuary Northwest 2024, the Face to Face conference in Olympia, WA September 12th or 13th through the 15th.
Signups at https://www.estuarynorthwest2024.com.
Speakers include Paul VanderKlay, Dr. Chris Green, Graham Pardun, Rafe Kelley, dr. Michael Martin and me.
Timestamps:
00:00 Intro
05:00 The radical nature of our problems are getting us to the heart of the matter.
05:43 The excitement of the synchronicity of unicorns!
16:00 Subject object loop of learning
19:50 The immanent and the transcendent
24:00 Faith as Reality in relationship with us
27:00 The consequences of lived multiculturalism, the global village and Marshall McLuhan 29:00 Challenges of communication across ideological boundaries
40:40 Discussing the video clip of Michael Levin's discussion with Karl Friston and Chris Fields on the idea of novelty and the transcendent. Where does novelty come from?
48:00 Exploring the concept of novelty and the isness of objects. Novelty is not strange (Heidegger) 50:45 Banal novelty and the booby trapping of metaphysics. Seeking a deeper understanding of the concept of metaphysics and its relationship to theology.
58:30 Developing the premise of the relationship between the transcendent and personal relationship with reality. (The nature of faith, reason, and the transcendent).
1:07:18 Recasting the self in the transformative experience.
1:10:36 The principles of design and beauty in art and nature intersecting with the principles of science and metaphysics.
1:18:04 Discovering art as a continuity of contact with the transcendent
1:22:07 The relationship between truth, science, art, and religion. 1:26:30 Announcing the upcoming conference in Olympia, Washington.
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Sam Tideman of the YouTube channel, Transfigured, joins Karen to discuss the recent Peter Robinson interview with Stephen Meyer, David Berlinski and James Orr called The Magician's Twin. Info for the September conference in Olympia, WA where I will be one of the speakers. https://www.estuarynorthwest2024.com/
Timestamps:
00:00 Intro
01:06. The Nature of Scientific Laws
19:02 Aristotle's Four Causes and Their Relevance in Science
25:02 The Purpose of Survival 30:04 Discussion on Completeness and the Desire to Exist
42:46 Confronting Anomalies and the Pursuit of Perfection
50:47 Exploring the Christological Passage
59:30 The Nature of AI and its Potential Influence on Humanity
1:09:47 Evolution and Creationism Discussion
1:16:31 The Mathematical Challenge of Protein Discovery
1:21:54 Evolution and Adaptability
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Annie Crawford, a classical educator and cultural apologist, discussed her work in renewing a sacramental view of the world emphasizing the importance of this worldview in addressing the modern meaning crisis as it reveals that meaning is woven into the fabric of creation. Annie defined sacraments as visible signs of invisible grace. She shared her personal journey of rebuilding her life and family around a sacramental view of the world, drawing inspiration from C.S. Lewis, Plato, and her experiences in a liturgical church. Discussing the role of moral values in academic discourse, she highlighted the potential risks of falling into postmodern relativism and the influence of critical theory. Karen and Annie explored the idea that embracing certain moral values can serve as a safeguard against these pitfalls and discussed the connection between objective truth, metaphysical truth, and moral discourse. Additionally, they addressed the tension of the "inner ring", the desire to be part of the elite, and the potential moral implications of using it as a motivation for moral endeavors. After that background, they brought in the themes of "That Hideous Strength" by C.S. Lewis, drawing parallels to Augustine's City of God and the biblical dichotomy of the kingdom of heaven versus the kingdom of man. They highlighted the importance of patient waiting and obedience in the process of healing the world. Annie particularly emphasized the idea that grandiose plans and rhetoric are not the key to victory, but rather it is obedience, humility, and quiet faithfulness that play a pivotal role. The conversation underscored the powerful portrayal of these themes by Lewis and the encouragement it provides in understanding the role of obedience in the restoration of the world. The symbolism of the head in Lewis's work draws connections to transhumanist ideologies and depopulation strategies. The prophetic nature of Lewis's writings in relation to current societal trends highlights the relevance of his ideas to contemporary issues. The current concern about the significance of AI and the potential introduction of superhuman intelligences from another world reflects on the broader implications of these concepts in the context of science, faith, and societal evolution.
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Apologies! Right around 6 minutes, I say Adam Sandler when I meant Adam Savage:-)
Timestamps are approximate.
Timestamps:
00:00 Intro
02:00 The Intersection of Art and Science in Measurement
15:00 Tolerance and Precision in Manufacturing
25:00 Viscosity and its Relationship to Environmental Factors
41:00 The Complexity of Science and Empirical Derivation
46:00 Discussion on Thermodynamics and Viscosity
53:00 Discussion on Temperature and Energy Transfer
58:00 Precision Measurement and Metrology
1:06:14 Discussion on the Concepts of Ruler and Standard
1:16:00 Discussion on Measurement, Uncertainty, and Perception
Here's the summary the AI did, which is pretty good on the technical stuff, but the underlying metaphysical implications seemed to fly right over its head.
"The meeting addressed several topics, including metrology and measurement, viscosity, energy transfer, and precision measurement . The conversation then shifted to tolerance and precision in manufacturing. The speakers examined the impact of tolerance on production costs and the necessity for machines to achieve greater precision than the components they produce. They also considered the effects of environmental factors like temperature on machining processes and the importance of measuring components at specific temperatures. Further, William and Karen discussed the concept of viscosity and its relationship with environmental factors, such as temperature, pressure, and surface roughness. They compared the behavior of liquids and gases concerning viscosity and discussed its practical implications in engineering, especially in fluid dynamics and mold design. The complexity of science was another topic of discussion, with an emphasis on the limitations of achieving a completely ideal understanding and the use of maps, equations, and measurements with tolerance and approximation. Additionally, the relationship between temperature and energy transfer was explored, considering the process of adding energy to an object and the resulting cooling effect. The speakers highlighted the hidden complexities of measurement and metrology and the intricate processes involved in achieving accurate and reliable measurements."
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Karen Wong and Jess Purviance ranged from their personal backgrounds and interests to deep theological explorations of the Book of Job. They discussed how a deep dive into a specific topic can reveal the interconnectedness and how it can provide a framework for understanding the world. They also spoke of embracing uncertainty and finding faith in difficult circumstances, drawing inspiration from scriptural examples and personal experiences.
They also analyzed the book's relationship to Proverbs and Ecclesiastes, highlighting the unique illustration of Job's integrity and suffering that goes beyond the wisdom books in the Bible.
Psalms and Job are both good examples for dealing with a diverse array of human emotions and experiences, including anger, despair, and praise,
In a look at the role of boundaries and chaos in creation, they drew from biblical references and mythological stories to illustrate their points.
In the next get together, they plan to talk about measurement. In preparation for this, you could watch this fascinating video of
Adam Savage on gauge blocks: https://youtu.be/qE7dYhpI_bI?si=QP80-nxysYLQMx7C
Become New on the "world of perhaps": https://youtu.be/uJwB5OwG-34?si=hVsYWmBDMFJ3Zkqj
Jess' Youtube channel (scroll down for playlist of Job episodes: https://www.youtube.com/@JessPurviance
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Christian Baxter of the new Youtube Channel, Yours Truly, joins Karen for an extended discussion of the telos of worship. For a peak at how AI described this conversation, scroll down past the links.
The very first episode on Christian's channel: https://youtu.be/aUbULLbltzo?si=ZF249oYpIyJK0NHO
Christian's first conversation with Karen: https://youtu.be/tSIFpKcE_Fk?si=u62VXLD9EgDwO0s-
"Living Water" by Christian Baxter, with Karen's "Living Water" series of paintings: https://youtu.be/BhTWO-C2pRg?si=t5RBwHTpZK_ZM61R
For the curious sort, here is how AI described this conversation:
"Christian Baxter and Karen Wong had a deep discussion about the evolution of online conversations and the shift towards long-form discussions. They also discussed finding better language for the telos of worship to bridge theological distinctions, the concept of sacredness and worship, and the essence of worship as a continuous practice beyond Sunday gatherings. They expressed a desire for more corporate prayer, scripture reading, and a sense of restoration and remembrance in evangelical church services, highlighting the absence of these elements in their current experiences. They also explored the idea that active engagement in liturgical rituals can lead to a more profound and transformative experience compared to passive consumption. The speakers also discussed the evolution of worship music in churches, focusing on the transition from traditional to contemporary styles. They explored the consequences of this shift, such as the fragmentation of church services and the lack of communal participation in worship. They also delved into a thought-provoking discussion about the symbolic meaning of communion elements, emphasizing the profound significance of bread and wine production processes. They expressed concerns about the potential loss of meaning in modern worship practices, particularly in music and preaching, and stressed the need for language to address the crisis within the worship space. Christian Baxter led a discussion on the implications of the Dunbar number in church growth, emphasizing the need to recognize the limitations of scaling a church beyond a certain size. He argued that rather than viewing the capacity as a barrier to overcome, it should be seen as a practical marker for determining what the church can effectively manage."
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This September I will be one of the speakers at Encountering Face to Face, Estuary Northwest 2024, a conference sponsored by Grail Country in Olympia, Washington. It will take place September 12-14 and will also feature Paul VanderKlay, Chris Green, Michael Martin, Rafe Kelley, and Graham Pardun. You can find out more about it here. https://estuarynorthwest2024.com
I'm publishing this video now because it tells more about what these conferences are like and the kind of community you can experience there. Sevilla King of the YouTube channel, A Quality Existence, speaks with Karen about their shared experiences at the recent conference, Quest for a Spiritual Home, which featured Jonathan Pageau, John Vervaeke, Paul VanderKlay and John VanDonk.
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William joins Karen to propose some ideas around the necessity of specificity in language, what it means to be "obvious", and how definition differs from description. As Peterson says, tell the truth, at least don't lie.
Karen will be one of the speakers at the Pacific Northwest Estuary conference in Olympia, WA (September 12-15) sponsored by Grail Country's Nate Hile. Info here: https://www.estuarynorthwest2024.com/
Timestamps:
00:00 Intro
00:15 Estuary Conference information
03:00 Laying out the topic
10:07 Importance of Specificity in Language
15:10 Importance of Specificity in Communication
28:02 Intercultural Communication and Misunderstandings
31:39 Definitions vs. Descriptions
45:32 Hemispheres of the Brain and Marriage Analogy
54:00 More on Definitions and Descriptions
59:57 The Nature of Obviousness
1:07:14 Necessity of definition for reality
1:15:39 Personal Reflections on Family Routine
1:18:26 Discussion on Language and Humility
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Andrea Hiott, host of Love and Philosophy (sample episode:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSO9QThuQ6I) joins Karen to talk Failure and Risk Taking
Karen will be speaking at the PNW Estuary Conference In Olympia, Washington, mentioned at the beginning: https://www.estuarynorthwest2024.com/
Timestamps:
00:00 Intro and announcement re: PNW Estuary Conference
01:22 Exploring the concept of failure
06:50 Risk-taking and Development
13:05 Failure and Social Media
20:46 How can we align with the unknown and confront it voluntarily to build resilience and strength? 29:42 The concept of order and chaos
35:32 Understanding failure and how it relates to shame
43:15 Trust in the goodness of God and its role in overcoming failure and shame
43:48 Speak the Truth, at least, don't lie
48:35 Navigating the dance of conversation, authenticity, hiddenness
53:21The effect verbalizing an idea Has on ts original beauty and truth?
1:06:31 Pushing the boundaries of science and creativity
1:08:06 Loyalty to personal interest as it relates to the archetypal hero's journey?
1:16:09 Risk-taking and failure as they contribute to the path forward?
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Tomer Solomon joins Karen to talk about his recent paper on an integrative theory that looks at Markov blankets and the free energy principle, the parallels to the creative process and the nature of reality itself. In addition, he discusses the Biblical narrative through the lens of predictive processing and complexity theory, bridging ancient texts with modern scientific and mathematical frameworks. Timestamps:
00:00 Intro
02:23 Tomer’s background and career journey
10:55 Unified Process Theory of Meaning Markov blankets
25:53 Sacrifice and Unity
30:00 Beauty and its relationship to order and symmetry, the role of art and music in aligning with the patterns of nature.
1:00:00 The interconnectedness of Mind and Cosmos, the Biblical Narrative and Symbolism
1:08:45 Complexity theory and predictive processing
1:14:59 Evolution of Wholeness and complexity
1:42:56 Discussing books and potential collaborations
Personal Website: https://www.tomersolomon.com/
Twitter: http://www.x.com/tomer_solomon
Substack: https://tomersolomon.substack.com/p/uptm-1-a-paradigm-for-the-21st-century
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Stephen Iacoboni, MD, is an award-winning cancer researcher and cancer center director at four locations in the Pacific Northwest over his 40 year career. He is also the author of the highly acclaimed cancer care spiritual journal, The Undying Soul. Halfway through his 4 decades as a cancer specialist stuck in the atheist paradigm, he realized something was missing, and that led him to write this remarkable book about the need to recognize Telos.
Order a signed copy or ask him any questions at his website: https://stepheniacoboni.com https://stepheniacoboni.com/contact/ The book is also available at Amazon and most booksellers.
Karen will be speaking at the PNW Estuary Conference in Olympia, WA in September. Info here: https://www.estuarynorthwest2024.com/
We tackle the big questions here:
Timestamps:
00:00 Intro
01:30 Dr. Iacoboni's Journey and Research
06:10 How does the paradigm in biochemistry need to shift? 14:41 Purpose in Nature
32:49 Discussion on the Origin of Life and Purpose in Biology
41:55 What is the role of emergence in understanding the purpose-driven nature of life?
51:06 The Emergence of Telos and Intentionality in Living Organisms
1:01:55 The complexity of DNA Transcription and Regulation. How do molecules exhibit intentionality and self-organization in biological processes?
1:03:36 Discussion on Organizing Principles and Belief Systems
1:11:20 How does the idea of meaning preceding matter impact our understanding of the natural world? The role of function in Defining Structure.
1:23:16 What are the challenges in cancer care and research?
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Stephan Solomon of the YouTube channel, Charlie's Little Corner, joins today to tell his story.
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Gabe introduces aspects of his theory to Glen who has a background in physics, mathematics, computer science and design engineering.
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Ryan and Gabe discuss the overlaps of cognitive theory, psychology and body work. Timestamps are approximate.
Timestamps
00:00 Introductions and Setting the Agenda
04:00 Discussion on Patterns of Cognition and Consciousness
16:00 Exploring Cognitive Mapping and Historical Perspectives
20:00 Discussion on Barbara McClintock's Research and its Implications
23:00 Philosophical Reflections on Balance and Measurement
32:00 Overcoming Obstacles and Staying on Track
36:00 Exploring Hope and Faith
43:00 Exploring the Relationship Between Senses and Decision-Making
47:30 Understanding the Cycle of Information Processing
50:00 Exploring the Markov Blanket
56:00 The Concept of Tension and Balance
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