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  • On today’s show, Pat, Darius Butler, AJ Hawk, and the boys wrap week 3 of the NFL season as they set their sights on week 4, and AQ Shipley gives his biggest takeaways of the week that more people should be paying attention to. Joining the show to feel the beat of what’s happening in the baseball world as we are in the last week of the season and on the precipice of the playoffs is ESPN MLB Senior Insider, Jeff Passan. Next, NBA Insider Shams Charania joins the show to feel the beat in the basketball world and discuss his impending free agency, the Celtics being prohibitive favorites to repeat as NBA Champions, the 76ers being in the best place they’ve been for awhile after signing Joel Embiid to an extension, and when we’ll see LeBron and Bronny James play together. In hour two, 3x DPOY, Texans Ring of Honor Member, future Hall of Famer, Walter Payton Man of the Year, countless Pro Bowl’s and All-Pro’s, and NFL on CBS analyst, JJ Watt joins the progrum to give his biggest takeaways from week 3 of the NFL season, how Burnley is doing, and much much more. Make sure to subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. We’ll see you tomorrow. Cheers.
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  • On today’s show, Pat, Darius Butler, AJ Hawk, and the boys recap last night’s Monday Night Football doubleheader that saw the Bills absolutely dismantle the Jaguars and Jayden Daniels and the Commanders put on an incredible performance as they went into Cincinnati and outlasted the Bengals 38-33, before wrapping up the rest of week 3 of the NFL season and looking ahead to week 4. Joining the progrum after a monster weekend against the New Orleans Saints is Eagles TE Dallas Goedert to chat about having a career night, his relationship with Jalen Hurts, what Nick Sirianni is like on a day-to-day basis, how he’s adjusted to Kellen Moore’s new offense, what it’s like playing in Philadelphia, Big Dom’s importance to the team, and much more. Next, starting safety for the Buffalo Bills, Damar Hamlin joins the show to chat about notching his first career interception last night, the Bills culture, getting over the mental hurdle of suiting up to play football again, why he has so much respect and love for the Bills organization, what it means to be from Pittsburgh, and more. Later, 4x MVP, Super Bowl Champion/MVP, countless Pro Bowls and All-Pro’s, and starting QB for the New York Jets, Aaron Rodgers joins the show to chat about their big win on Thursday night over the Pats, why he feels like he’s getting back to his normal self on the field, some of the Quarterback play around the league that he’s been impressed with, being an elder statesmen in the league and having the respect of so many of the young players, why teams shouldn’t panic if they’re 0-3, and much much more. Make sure to subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. We’ll see you tomorrow. Cheers.
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  • On today’s show, Pat, Darius Butler, AJ Hawk, and the boys overreact to everything that happened in week 3 of the NFL season including the Carolina Panthers getting their first win of the season behind an unbelievable Andy Dalton performance, the Colts outlasting the Bears despite Caleb Williams throwing for over 300 yards, Malik Willis getting another win for the Packers, the Vikings continuing to look dominant with Sam Darnold, the Steelers moving to 3-0 after another great performance from Justin Fields, the Cowboys coming up short against the Ravens, and everything else around the NFL. Joining the progrum to give an update about all the injuries around the league and prepare us for the Monday Night Football Doubleheader is ESPN Senior Insider, Adam Schefter. In hour two, 8x Super Bowl Champion, the GOAT, Bill Belichick joins the show to give his biggest takeaways from week 3 of the NFL season and why he’s still not ready to hit the panic button on a lot of teams as many teams haven’t declared who they are yet, before previewing tonight’s Monday Night Football games. Make sure to subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. We’ll see you tomorrow. Cheers.
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  • On today’s show, Pat is live from the University of Oklahoma for College GameDay ahead of tomorrow’s massive tilt between Oklahoma and Tennessee, while AJ Hawk and the boys are back in studio in Indianapolis. They recap last night’s Thursday Night Football game between the Patriots and Jets in which Aaron Rodgers delivered an absolutely vintage performance as the Jets dismantled the Patriots, before looking ahead to week 3 of the NFL season and making their picks. Joining the progrum to chat about this weekend’s college football slate and his thoughts on Bryce Young in Carolina is 7x National Champion, the GOAT, Nick Saban. Later, Head Coach of the Oklahoma softball team, 8x National Champion, 15x Big 12 Coach of the Year, member of the National Fastpitch Hall of Fame, Patty Gasso joins the show to chat about maintaining competitive stamina after winning 4 consecutive National Championships, building a culture of excellence, why women’s softball has become so popular, and much more. Make sure to subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. We’ll see you tomorrow. Cheers.
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  • On today’s show, Pat, Coach Chuck Pagano, AJ Hawk, and the boys preview tonight’s Thursday Night Football game between the Patriots and the Jets, including making their picks against the spread as well as covering all the pertinent news stories of the week as we get ready for week 3 of the NFL season. Joining the progrum to recap week 2 of the NFL season and look ahead to week 3 including giving his picks for the weekend is 3x Super Bowl Champion, former GM, NY Times best-selling author, host of The Lombardi Line and GM Shuffle podcast, Michael Lombardi. Later, country music superstar, former coach on The Voice and host of Barmageddon, Blake Shelton joins the show to chat about his football fandom and how he became an Arizona Cardinals fan, his path to superstardom, and lastly to announce that he will be the guest picker this weekend at Oklahoma. Later, 4x Super Bowl Champion, former National Champion, current Consultant for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, and football coach in college and the NFL for over 60 years, Tom Moore joins the progrum to chat about his new book coming out, coaching a laundry list of NFL greats, his thoughts on Baker in Tampa, being a football lifer, how offenses have evolved in the NFL over the course of his career, and why he thinks being a coach is the best job in the world. Make sure to subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. We’ll see you tomorrow. Cheers.
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  • On today’s show, Pat, AQ Shipley, Darius Butler, AJ Hawk, and the boys start to look ahead at week 3 of the NFL season while putting a bow on all the stories from week 2, and looking at which teams might already be panicking sitting at 0-2, before also covering the six most important stories of the college football season going into week 4. Joining the show to chat about Quarterback play as a whole in the NFL right now, how it has changed since he was playing, the Bryce Young situation, and mentoring young QB’s is Hall of Famer, Super Bowl Champion/MVP, 2x MVP, and NFL Network Analyst, Kurt Warner. Later, future Hall of Famer, 3x DPOY, Walter Payton Man of the Year, countless Pro Bowl and All-Pro nods, and NFL on CBS analyst, JJ Watt joins the progrum to give his biggest takeaways from week 2 including how dominant his brother has been, if he thinks the Cardinals are serious contenders, the Colts gameplan against the Packers, his thoughts on the Texans as a whole after a dominant defensive performance against the Bears, and everything else that stood out to him. Make sure to subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. We’ll see you tomorrow. Cheers.
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  • On today’s show, Pat, Darius Butler, AJ Hawk, and the boys recap last night’s Monday Night Football game that saw an absolutely miraculous comeback with one minute remaining as Kirk Cousins got his first win as an Atlanta Falcon on the road in Philadelphia, while also highlighting some of the most important plays from week 2, some potential changes to the college football landscape, and the best DB plays of the week with Everything DB. Joining the progrum to chat about Quarterback play around the league including Bryce Young’s time in Carolina potentially being done, Derek Carr’s success in New Orleans, Justin Fields, and last night’s game is 12 year NFL veteran at QB and ESPN NFL analyst, Dan Orlovsky. Later, 4x MVP, Super Bowl Champion/MVP, and Quarterback of the New York Jets, Aaron Rodgers joins the show to chat about the playing on a short week against the Patriots on Thursday night, how special his back field is, how good it felt getting the win on Sunday in Tennessee, how he continues to build rapport with his receivers, and what it’s like playing against a team who is coached by a player he’s played against in the league. Make sure to subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. We’ll see you tomorrow. Cheers.
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  • On today’s show, Pat, Darius Butler, AJ Hawk, and the boys overreact to everything that happened in week 2 of the NFL season including the Packers running the ball 50+ times against the Colts and getting a win with Malik Willis at Quarterback, Bryce Young officially being benched by the Panthers, the Saints dismantling the Cowboys in Jerry World, the Chiefs still being the Chiefs after beating the Bengals on a last second field goal, the Texans pressuring Caleb Williams and the Bears all night, and all the other pertinent games from a great weekend of football. Joining the progrum to give updates on all the different injuries that happened over the weekend and an update on Christian McCaffrey is ESPN Senior NFL Insider, Adam Schefter. In hour 2, the GOAT, 8x Super Bowl Champion, Bill Belichick joins the show to give his biggest takeaway’s from week 2 of the NFL season and preview tonight’s Monday Night Football game between the Falcons and the Eagles. Later, Chargers Running Back JK Dobbins joins the show to chat about another massive 100+ yard day in the Chargers massive win over the Panthers, his front flip into the end zone, their extended stay on the East Coast before playing Pittsburgh next week, and more. Make sure to subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. We’ll see you tomorrow. Cheers.
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  • On today's show, Pat, Coach Chuck Pagano, AJ Hawk and the boys break dahn the latest around the NFL, continue to recap Week 1, & preview the Bills vs. Dolphins Thursday Night Football tonight. 3x Super Bowl Champion, Special Assistant to Bill Belichick in New England, NY Times best-selling author, host of the GM Shuffle & Lombardi Line, Michael Lombardi joined the show in the first hour to give what he's looking for tonight in Bills vs. Dolphins, what went wrong for the Colts Defense against CJ Stroud's Texans, how the Patriots were able to upset the Bengals, and let us know who he likes in Week 2. In the second hour, the voice of College Football & Color Commentator for the NFL on Prime, to give us what he's looking forward to in the Bills & Dolphins match up, including the local dew point, what to expect from the Bills offense on the ground, and what makes the Dolphins offense so hard to stop. In the third hour, Coach Chuck Pagano breaks dahn some film of what the Dolphins do well on offense & what makes Josh Allen one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL. Make sure to subscribe to YouTube.com/thepatmcafeeshow to watch the show. Or watch on ESPN (12-2pm EDT), ESPN's YouTube (12-3pm EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. We'll see you tomorrow. Cheers
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  • On today’s show, Pat, AQ Shipley, Darius Butler, AJ Hawk, and the boys recap recap a week as a whole in the NFL while they set the stage for week 2 as AQ gives out his top performing O-Line’s of the week and they take a peek at some of injuries that might have an impact on games this week. Joining the boys in studio is 2x All-Star, All-NBA player, and gold medalist point guard of the Indiana Pacers, Tyrese Haliburton to chat about his Olympic experience, and gloat after Iowa State’s victory over Iowa in the Cy-Hawk game. Later, 3x DPOY, Texans Ring of Honor member, future Hall of Famer, 5x 1st team All-Pro, 5x Pro Bowler, and now NFL on CBS analyst, JJ Watt joins the show to recap week 1 and chat about his biggest takeaways from everything. Later, 3x Pro Bowler, 2020 NFL Comeback Player of the Year, analyst on Sunday NFL Countdown, and co-host of the Glue Guy podcast, Alex Smith joins the show to chat about Quarterback play around the NFL after week 1, what makes Andy Reid so good as a Head Coach, how he’s been liking being an analyst, and why he’s doing this new podcast. Make sure to subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. We’ll see you tomorrow. Cheers.
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  • On today’s show, Pat, Darius Butler, AJ Hawk, and the boys recap last night’s game between the Jets and 49ers that saw the 49ers thoroughly dominate things, although the Jets showed some spark with Aaron Rodgers throwing his first touchdown with the team, and giving everyone a sense of what this team could be if they start to get things rolling a little bit. Joining the progrum to give a couple of Adam Bombs about who is hurt around the league and what he’s hearing as we wrap up week 1 is NFL Senior Insider, Adam Schefter. In the 2nd hour, joining the progrum for another season of Aaron Rodgers Tuesday is 4x MVP, Super Bowl Champion, Super Bowl MVP, 5x All-Pro, 10x Pro Bowler, and starting QB for the New York Jets, Aaron Rodgers to chat about last night’s game, how it felt getting back out there after the Achilles injury, why he doesn’t think there’s any reason to panic with this team, what challenges the 49ers defense posed, leading the NFL in free play touchdowns after last night, and much much more. Make sure to subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. We’ll see you tomorrow. Cheers.
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  • On today’s show, Pat, Darius Butler, AJ Hawk, and the boys overreact to everything that happened during a crazy week 1 of the NFL season, preview tonight’s Monday Night Football matchup, and get some overreactions from around the internet. Joining the progrum to give updates on Jordan Love’s injury status, whether or not Ja’Marr Chase and the Bengals are going to keep working on an extension, things escalating in Atlanta after Kirk Cousins didn’t play well, and some injury updates for Monday Night Football is NFL Senior Insider, Adam Schefter. In hour two, 8x Super Bowl Champion, the GOAT, Bill Belichick joins the progrum to give his biggest takeaways from week 1 of the NFL season, and preview tonight’s Monday Night Football game between the Jets and 49ers. In the third hour, Running Back for the LA Chargers, JK Dobbins joins the show to chat about their big win over the Raiders, what it’s like playing for Jim Harbaugh, his relationship with Justin Herbert, if he ever had concerns with his injuries stacking up, and much more. Make sure to subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. We’ll see you on Monday for the first Overreaction Monday of the season. Cheers. 
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  • On today’s show, Pat is LIVE from the Big House in Ann Arbor, Michigan ahead of tomorrow’s massive tilt between Texas and Michigan, as AJ Hawk and the boys are back in studio. They recap last night’s incredible NFL season opener that saw the Chiefs outlasting the Ravens 27-20 as a last second touchdown from the Ravens was overturned, plus they preview tonight’s Packers vs Eagles matchup in Brazil and make their predictions for the entire week 1 NFL slate. Joining Pat in Ann Arbor to chat about tomorrow’s game and the confidence they have in this Michigan football team is Head Coach Sherrone Moore and new Defensive Coordinator and NFL legend, Wink Martindale. Later, 2x Super Bowl Champion, Hall of Famer, 5x MVP, 10x All-Pro, 14x Pro Bowler, creator of Omaha Productions, Peyton Manning joins the show to chat about his upcoming NFL season, his thoughts on playing rookie QB’s, the relationships he has with current NFL QB’s, how things have been so far talking ball with Coach Belichick, and more. Later, the GOAT, 7x National Champion, and now panelist on College GameDay, Nick Saban joins Pat to chat about the Texas vs. Michigan game, how he’s been liking the GameDay experience thus far, preparing to play against two quarterback’s, knowing when to show passion and fire your team up before a game, what to take away from freshman QB’s taking a step up in competition after playing lesser teams last week, and more. Make sure to subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. We’ll see you on Monday for the first Overreaction Monday of the season. Cheers. 
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  • On today’s show, Pat, Coach Chuck Pagano, AJ Hawk, and the boys bask in the fact that NFL Football is officially back tonight as they preview the Ravens vs. Chiefs game from all angles, and eventually make their picks against the spread. Also joining the show to break down everything about the Ravens and Chiefs, tomorrow night’s Packers vs. Eagles tilt, and a couple of plays he likes for this weekend is 3x Super Bowl Champion, former GM of the Cleveland Browns, Special Assistant to Bill Belichick in New England, NY Times best-selling author, host of the GM Shuffle and Lombardi Line, Michael Lombardi. Next, 12 year NFL veteran on the offensive line, Super Bowl Champion, former Rimmington Trophy winner, and host of In the Trenches, AQ Shipley joins the show to chat about the offensive line play of both teams tonight, how much of an impact losing their o-line coach will have on the Ravens, and who he ultimately likes in the matchup. Later, 4x NBA Champion, 3x Finals MVP, NBA MVP, 15x NBA All-Star, 14x All-NBA, the most dominant player of all-time, and panelist on Inside the NBA, Shaquille O’Neal joins the show to chat about JJ Redick coaching the Lakers, this new generation of NBA players, why he considers himself the most dominant player of all-time, all his different business ventures, the future of Inside the NBA, and much more. Make sure to subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. We’ll see you tomorrow. Cheers. 
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  • On today’s show, Pat, Darius Butler, AJ Hawk, and the boys look ahead to tomorrow night’s NFL kickoff game between the Ravens and the Chiefs as well as the game on Friday night in Brazil between the Packers and Eagles, check in on Ja’Marr Chase being back at practice, and bask in the fact that the NFL season is officially only one day away. Joining the show in the first hour for a wide ranging conversation on the state of football and a look at global expansions is the Commissioner of the NFL, Roger Goodell. In the 2nd hour, joining for another season of Watt Wednesday’s, is future Hall of Famer, 3x DPOY, Walter Payton Man of the Year, 7x All-Pro, 5x Pro Bowler, NFL on CBS panelist, JJ Watt to chat about his thoughts going into this NFL season about everything happening around the league. In the 3rd hour, the GOAT, 8x Super Bowl Champion, the greatest coach and GM of all-time, Bill Belichick joins the show to chat about preparing for week 1, how different preparing for an international game is, his plans for this season being the first time he isn’t in a football building in the last 50 years, his process of telling his teams exactly how a game was going to play out, and much more including a special announcement. Make sure to subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. We’ll see you tomorrow. Cheers. 
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  • On today’s show, Pat, Darius Butler, AJ Hawk, and the boys recap an incredible week 1 of the college football season that saw some upsets, some incredible plays, and was a great showing for both the Big Ten and the SEC. They also discuss Trent Williams officially reworking his deal with the 49ers, Ja’Marr Chase’s situation with the Bengals, and the NFL officially kicking off with week with primetime games on Thursday and Friday, and a full slate on Sunday. Joining the progrum to give updates on Trent Williams, Ja’Marr Chase, Ricky Pearsall, and the NFL’s worry about the security risk for the Friday Night game between the Packers and Eagles in Brazil. Next, the voice and face of college football and color commentator for the NFL on Prime, Kirk Herbstreit joins the show to give his biggest takeaways from week 1 of the college football season including his thoughts on Notre Dame, USC, Penn State and the Big Ten as a whole, why people have a problem with Ben, his thoughts on Texas @ Michigan this weekend, and much more. Make sure to subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. We’ll see you tomorrow. Cheers. 
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  • On today’s show, Pat, Pacman Jones, AJ Hawk, and the boys chat about tonight’s College Football slate which includes 21 games including North Dakota State vs Colorado, North Carolina vs. Minnesota, and a handful of other marquee matchups. They also cover Brandon Aiyuk and Ja’Marr Chase still not practicing, and everything else we need to be aware of as we prepare for week 1 of the college football season and the start of the NFL season. Joining the progrum to chat about Brandon Aiyuk, Trent Williams, Haason Reddick, and all the other pertinent pieces of information heading into the NFL season is ESPN Senior NFL Insider, Adam Schefter. Next, one of the founders of SpringHill Entertainment, LeBron James’ business partner, and executive producer of the new Connor Stallions documentary, Maverick Carter joins the show to chat about the doc and how it came to be, some of the other business ventures that he and LeBron are cooking up, The Shop watchalong’s on Thursday Night Football on Prime, how good of a basketball player Brian Windhorst was in high school, and more. Later, 5x Pro Bowler, 4x All-Pro, Minnesota Vikings Ring of Honor member, and future Hall of Famer, Jared Allen joins the show to chat about the mullet competition he judged and who the winners are, his thoughts on the NFL this year, and more in an incredible conversation. Make sure to subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. We’ll see you tomorrow. Cheers. 
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  • On today’s show, Pat, Darius Butler, AJ Hawk, and the boys chat about cut day in the NFL as every roster must get down to 53 players by 4 PM, if we’ll see any trades, and everything else happening in the NFL as we are only 9 days away from the start of the regular season. Joining the progrum to chat all about how this final day of cuts works, how difficult it is, the strategy that goes into building team, and all his biggest takeaways from the preseason as a whole is 3x Super Bowl Champion, former GM, host of the Lombardi Line and GM Shuffle and NY Times best-selling author, Michael Lombardi. Joining the progrum in hour 2 to chat about the start of the college football season, the Connor Stallions documentary on Netflix and if there will be any fallout from it, his thoughts on Michigan this upcoming year, and the prospects of a 12 game playoff, is the voice of college football, Kirk Herbstreit. Next, one of the goats of auto racing, Tony “Smoke” Stewart joins the progrum to debut two new paint jobs for his cars that will be competing at the NHRA Nationals this weekend in Indiana. Later, 5x Pro Bowler, 4x All-Pro, one of the stars of Receiver on Netflix, George Kittle joins the show to chat about DirecTV getting rid of satellites, 49ers being in the news and if that seeps into the locker room, Brock Purdy getting jacked in the offseason, how his body feels going into his 8th season, his thoughts on Iowa football this year, and more. Make sure to subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. We’ll see you tomorrow. Cheers. 
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  • On today’s show, Pat, Darius Butler, AJ Hawk, and the boys recap their Ireland trip for week 0 of the college football season and how incredible of a time it was, as well as the great slate of games that kicked off the college football season, the last week of the NFL preseason, CeeDee Lamb officially signing the 2nd biggest non-QB contract in NFL history, and everything else we need to be aware of as we have these 2 weeks off before the start of the NFL season. Joining the progrum to chat about the CeeDee Lamb situation, Trent Williams and his contract situation, if Drake Maye is going to be the starting QB for Patriots, and much more is NFL Senior Insider, Adam Schefter. Next, 8x Super Bowl Champion, the greatest coach and GM of all-time, Bill Belichick joins the show to chat about his biggest takeaway’s from the preseason, how difficult it is getting the roster down to 53, the Judon trade, why he doesn’t put too much stock into what we’re seeing from rookie QB’s in the preseason, and more. Make sure to subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. We’ll see you tomorrow. Cheers. 
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