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  • Revelation 21–22 (The New Heavens and the New Earth) with Dr. Jonathan Moo

    Dr. Jonathan Moo (Whitworth University) guides us through Revelation 21–22. We discuss:

    * The importance of judgment preceding the new heavens and earth (20:10–15)

    * The continuity and the discontinuity between first earth and the new heavens and earth (21:5)

    * Why there is no sea in the new heavens and earth (21:1)

    * John’s repeated identification of things that in the new heavens and new earth are, “no more.”

    * The first and second death, why some people are excluded from the new heavens and earth, and the contrasting life to which John calls his audience (21:7–8, 27; 22:14–15)

    * The architecture of the new Jerusalem (22:9–22)

    * The lamb’s book of life and how one finds their name written in there (21:27)

    * The river of the water of life, and the tree of life (22:1–2)

    * The name on the foreheads (22:4)

    * The repeated emphasis on Jesus coming (22:7, 12, 16–17, 20)

    * Why not seal up the prophecy? (22:10)

    * Why should the evil doer still do evil? (22:11)

    * What it means to neither add to nor subtract from the words of the prophecy? (22:18–19)

    Works by Dr. Jonathan Moo

    * "Fourth Ezra and Revelation 21:1-22:5: Paradise City." In Reading Revelation in Context: John's Apocalypse and Second Temple Judaism. Edited by B. C. Blackwell et al. Grand Rapids: Zondervan, 2019

    * Creation, Nature, and Hope in 4 Ezra. Vandenhoeck & Ruprecht, 2011.

    Dr. Jonathan Moo recommends

    * Roderick Beaton, The Greeks: A Global History. Basic Books, 2021

    * Practicing not being on media first thing in the morning, but rather in Scripture and prayer.

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  • Revelation 19:11–20:15 (The Horse and Rider, Lake of Fire, Millennium, and the Great White Throne of Judgment) with Dr. Tom Schreiner

    Dr. Tom Schreiner (Southern Seminary) guides us through Revelation 19:11–20:15. We discuss:

    * The white horse and its rider, Jesus (19:11)

    * The various names given to the rider including “word of God,” “faithful and true,” “King of Kings and Lord of Lords,” and that “he has a name inscribed that no one knows but himself” (19:11–16)

    * The significance of the blood on Jesus’s robe (19:13)

    * The sword in his mouth (19:21)

    * The battle between the beast’s armies and the rider’s armies and the great feast (19:17–21)

    * The beast and the prophet who deceive those who receive the beast’s mark, and who are thrown into the lake of fire (19:20; 20:10)

    * Options for understanding the millennial reign and the binding of Satan, and Tom’s view of “new creation millennialism” (19:4–6)

    * Satan and the final battle (19:7–10)

    * The judgment and the great white throne (19:11–15)

    * the books that are opened, and the book of life (19:12, 15)

    * Judgment according to works (19:13)

    Works by Dr. Tom Schreiner

    * Revelation. BECNT. Baker Academic, 2023.

    * New Testament Theology: Magnifying God in Christ. Baker Academic, 2008.

    Dr. Tom Schreiner recommends

    * Daniel James Brown, The Boy in the Boat: Nine Americans and their Quest for Gold at the 1936 Berlin Olympics. Penguin Random House, 2013

    * Saul David, Operation Thunderbolt: Flight 139 and the Raid on Entebbe Airport, The Twentieth Century's Greatest Special Forces Mission. Little, Brown, 2015

    * Fyodor Dostoyevsky, The Brothers Karamzov

    * Leo Tolstoy, Anna Karenina

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  • Malachi with Dr. Julia O'Brien

    Dr. Julia O'Brien (Lancaster Theological Seminary) guides us through the book of Malachi. We discuss:

    * What do we know about Malachi and the historical context of the book?

    * Major themes of the book including the corrupt priesthood, Malachi’s tone and frustrated attitude, and the repeated use of family language and metaphors

    * Issues involved in translating gendered language in the Bible

    * How disputations structure the book’s development

    * Malachi’s place in Jewish and Christian canons and how Malachi is related to the Book of the Twelve

    * How Malachi has been interpreted and its value for today including the importance of religious institutions, and behavior/practice.

    * Whether Malachi is talking about marriage or using marriage as a metaphor (2:14–15)

    * How God’s destruction of Edom demonstrates God’s love for Israel (1:2–5)

    * God’s accusation of the Priests and the importance of the sacrificial system (1:6–2:9)

    * Issues involved in translating 2:16, which has often been translated as “I hate divorce” and if this passage is about marriage or idolatry?

    * The messenger whom God is sending (3:1) and the tradition of Eijah’s return (4:5)

    * God’s invitation to test him by bringing the tithe (3:10)

    Works by Dr. Julia O'Brien

    * The Oxford Handbook of the Minor Prophets. Edited by Julia O'Brien. Oxford University Press, 2021.

    * Micah. Liturgical Press, 2015

    * Challenging Prophetic Metaphor. Westminster John Knox, 2008

    * Nahum through Malachi. AOTC. Abingdon, 2004

    * Nahum. Sheffield Academic, 2001

    * Priest and Levite in Malachi. Scholars Press, 1990

    Dr. Julia O'Brien recommends

    * Joerg Rieger, Theology in the Capitalocene: Ecology, Identity, Class, and Solidarity. Fortress, 2022.

    * Cli-Fi (Climate Fiction) books and movies such as:

    * Richard Powers, The Overstory, Norton, 2018

    * The movie, Dune

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  • Revelation 17:1-19:10 with Dr. Michelle Fletcher

    Listen here as Dr. Michelle Fletcher (King's College London) guides us through Revelation 17:1-19:10 we discuss:

    * The city represented by the woman sitting on the beast, and the accusations against her (17:1–6)

    * The beast and its seven heads and ten horns (17:3, 7–9)

    * The cooperative relationship between the woman and the beast, and then the beast and kings turn on the woman (17:12–18)

    * The lament and rejoicing over Babylon (18:1–24)

    * The indictment against Babylon for fornication (17:2; 18:3, 9)

    * The lamb’s battle and marriage (17:14; 19:6–9)

    Works by Dr. Michelle Fletcher

    * "Exodus in Revelation." In Exodus in the New Testament. Edited by S. Ehorn and S. Whittle. T&T Clark, 2022.

    * "Revelation." In The Reception of Jesus in the First Three Centuries. Edited by J. Schröter et al. Bloomsbury T&T Clark, 2019.

    * "Apocalypse Noir: The Book of Revelation and Genre." In T&T Clark Companion to The Bible and Film. Edited by R. Walsh. Bloomsbury T&T Clark, 2018.

    * Reading Revelation as Pastiche: Imitating the Past. T&T Clark, 2017.

    * “Flesh for Frankenwhore: Reading Babylon’s Body in Revelation 17.” In The Body in Biblical, Christian, and Jewish Texts. Ed. Joan E. Taylor. T&T Clark, 2014

    * “Behold, I’ll Be Back: Terminator, the Book of Revelation and the Power of Sequels.” In Now Showing: Film Theory in Biblical Studies. Ed. Caroline Vander Stichele and Laura Copier. SBL Press, 2016.

    Dr. Michelle Fletcher recommends

    * Taking a cross country trip by train.

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  • Haggai and Zechariah with Dr. Marvin Sweeney

    Listen here as Dr. Marvin Sweeney (Claremont School of Theology) guides us through the books of Haggai and Zechariah we discuss:

    * The historical context of Haggai and Zechariah in the Persian period

    * The major themes of Haggai and Zechariah.

    * How Haggai and Zechariah fit in the Book of the Twelve including how they each take up Isaiah 2:4, “He shall judge between the nations and shall arbitrate for many peoples; they shall beat their swords into plowshares and their spears into pruning hooks; nation shall not lift up sword against nation; neither shall they learn war any more.”

    * The significance of Zerubbabel in both Haggai and Zechariah

    * The reasons for the delay in rebuilding the temple (Hag 1:2–15)

    * The splendor of the rebuilt temple (Hag 2:1–9) and what it means for wealth from the nations to be brought to the temple in Jerusalem.

    * The importance of the Temple to be rebuilt given its central role in creation (Hag 2:10–23)

    * The significance and symbolism of Zechariah’s 8 night visions (1:1–6:8): the horsemen, the horns and the blacksmiths, the man with the measuring line, Joshua and the satan, the lamp stand and olive trees, the flying scroll, the woman and the basket, and the four chariots.

    * Zechariah’s promises of the future restoration of Zion (Zech 8)

    * Zechariah’s contrast between a coming king and the corrupt shepherds/leaders of Judah (9:9–17; 10:3; 11:4–17)

    * Zechariah’s coming day of the LORD (ch 14), and if it is eschatological

    Works by Dr. Marvin Sweeney

    * The Twelve Prophets. Liturgical Press, 2000.

    * Jewish Mysticism from Ancient Times through Today. Eerdmans, 2020.

    * Isaiah 41–39. Eerdmans, 1996.

    * Isaiah 40-66. Eerdmans, 2016.

    * Reading Prophetic Books: Form, Intertextuality, and Reception in Prophetic and Post-Biblical Literature. Mohr Siebeck, 2014.

    * Reading Ezekiel. Smyth and Helwys, 2013.

    Dr. Marvin Sweeney recommends

    * The American Western TV show "1883" (Paramount+)

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  • Revelation 15–16 (The Seven Bowls) with Dr. Jamie Davies

    Dr. Jamie Davies (Trinity College) guides us through Revelation 15-16. We discuss:

    * God’s wrath coming to end (15:1)

    * The sea of glass mixed with fire (15:2)

    * Those who conquer sing the song of Moses and of the Lamb (15:3–4)

    * The temple of the tent of witness in heaven (15:5)

    * The bowls being poured into the earth and the sea and the resulting “ecological collateral damage,” and the altar crying out (16:1–3)

    * The people cursing God for his judgments (16:9, 11, 21)

    * The interlude of Jesus coming like a thief (16:15)

    * The beast, the prophet, and the dragon from whose mouths comes three frogs who gather the kings of the earth for the final battle of Armageddon (16:10–16)

    * The final angel pours the bowl that splits Babylon in three parts, and the islands fleeing and the mountains disappearing (16:17–21)

    Works by Dr. Jamie Davies

    * Reading Revelation: A Literary and Theological Commentary. Smyth & Helwys, 2023.

    * The Apocalyptic Paul. Cascade Companions. Cascade, 2022

    * Paul Among the Apocalypses? An Evaluation of the ‘Apocalyptic Paul’ in the Context of Jewish and Christian apocalyptic literature. LNTS 562. T&T Clark, 2016.

    Jamie Davies recommends

    * Saint Augustine of Hippo, The Confessions, Books 10 and 11

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  • Zephaniah with Dr. Heath Thomas

    Dr. Heath Thomas (Oklahoma Baptist University) guides us through the book of Zephaniah. We discuss:

    * Zephaniah’s context and major themes including the idea that God is sovereign over all the nations

    * The day of the LORD as a coming event (1:1–18)

    * God as an agent of violence

    * The “perhaps” of escaping God’s wrath (2:3)

    * Israel’s corporate identity and the rescue of the remnant (2:7, 9; 3:12)

    * God’s judgment as disciplinary

    Works by Dr. Heath Thomas

    * A Manifesto for Theological Interpretation. Edited with C. Bartholomew. Baker Academic, 2016

    * Faith Amid the Ruins: The Book of Habakkuk. Lexham Press, 2016

    * Poetry & Theology in the Book of Lamentations: The Aesthetics of an Open Text. Sheffield Phoenix Press, 2013

    * Holy War in the Bible: Christian Morality and an Old Testament Problem. Edited by Heath Thomas et al. IVP Academic, 2013

    Dr. Heath Thomas recommends

    * The works of Umberto Eco

    * Art and Faith: A Theology of Making written by Makoto Fujimura

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  • Habakkuk with Dr. Heath Thomas

    Dr. Heath Thomas (Oklahoma Baptist University) guides us through the book of Habakkuk. We discuss:

    * The historical context of Habakkuk

    * Major themes of: divine judgment and the use of foreign nations to execute God’s judgment; the significance of payer and praise; divine and human faithfulness;

    * God using a foreign nation to discipline his people (1:6). and Habakkuk’s complaint against God doing this (1:13)

    * The vision that Habakkuk is to write down (2:2)

    * The meaning of Habakkuk 2:4: “the just will live by his faith”

    * The divine theophany in which God touches down to earth and marches through the wilderness to rescue his people (3:1–15)

    Works by Dr. Heath Thomas

    * A Manifesto for Theological Interpretation. Edited with C. Bartholomew. Baker Academic, 2016

    * Faith Amid the Ruins: The Book of Habakkuk. Lexham Press, 2016

    * Poetry & Theology in the Book of Lamentations: The Aesthetics of an Open Text. Sheffield Phoenix Press, 2013

    * Holy War in the Bible: Christian Morality and an Old Testament Problem. Edited by Heath Thomas et al. IVP Academic, 2013

    Dr. Heath Thomas recommends

    * The works of Umberto Eco

    * Makoto Fujimura, Art and Faith: A Theology of Making, Yale University Press, 2021

    This episode is co-sponsored by Samford University and the Alabama Humanities Alliance, a state affiliate of the National Endowment for the Humanities. Any views, findings, conclusions or recommendations expressed in this episode do not necessarily represent those of the Alabama Humanities Alliance, the National Endowment for the Humanities or Samford University.



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  • Dr. Olivia Stewart Lester (Loyola University Chicago) guides us through Revelation 12-14. We discuss:

    * The woman who gives birth and is chased by the dragon (12:1–6, 13–16)

    * The conflict between the woman’s child and the dragon as a combat myth and how Revelation critiques the Apollo-Python combat myth

    * The two wings of the great eagle that the woman receives, and her escape to the wilderness (12:14)

    * The beast who receives its authority from the dragon, the beast’s mortal wound (13:1–8), and how Daniel 7 helps us understand the beast

    * The prophetic warning and call to endurance in 13:9–10.

    * The second beast that marks people’s foreheads with the number 666 (13:11–18)

    * The 144,000 who have the name of the lamb and of the Father on their foreheads and their masculine-virginal description (14:1–5)

    * The mysterious song that John hears (14:3)

    * The three angels who speak and deliver messages of God’s judgment (14:6–12)

    * Whether the description that “the smoke of their torment will rise for ever and ever” indicates a never-ending conscious punishment (14:11); and how to understand the depiction of God’s violence (14:10–11)

    * The Son of Man, the angels, and their sickles for harvest (i.e., judgment; 14:14–20)

    Works by Dr. Olivia Stewart Lester

    * "Revealed History as Prophetic Rivalry: John's Apocalypse, the Sibylline Oracles, and the Prophecy of Apollo," Early Christianity 10 (2019): 461–480

    * Prophetic Rivalry, Gender, and Economics: A Study in Revelation and Sibylline Oracles 4–5. WUNT 2/466. Mohr Siebeck, 2018.

    Dr. Olivia Stewart Lester recommends

    * The TV show, The Bear

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  • Dr. Beth Stovell (Ambrose University) guides us through the book of Nahum. We discuss:

    * Nahum’s emphasis on God’s anger

    * The vivid description of a battle scene (Nahum 2)

    * Nahum’s metaphor of the city of Nineveh as a prostitute (3:4)

    * What it means that "her infants were dashed to pieces" (Nahum 3:10)

    * How Nahum is hopeful

    Works by Dr. Beth Stovell

    * The Book of the Twelve, with David Fuller. Cascade, 2022

    * Theodicy and Hope in the Book of the Twelve. Edited with G. Athas et al. T&T Clark, 2021

    * Minor Prophets I (Hosea-Micah) and Minor Prophets II (Nahum-Malachi). The Story of God Bible Commentary Series: Old Testament. Zondervan, forthcoming

    * Mapping Metaphorical Discourse in the Fourth Gospel: John's Eternal King. Brill, 2012

    Dr. Beth Stovell recommends

    * The works of Dr. Juliana Claassens, Professor of Old Testament at Stellenbosch University (South Africa)

    * The Africana Bible: Reading Israel's Scriptures from Africa and the African Diaspora. Fortress Press, 2009

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  • Obadiah with Dr. Beth Stovell

    Dr. Beth Stovell (Ambrose University) guides us through the Book of Obadiah. We discuss:

    * the historical context of Obadiah

    * How Obadiah relates to the Book of the Twelve

    * A major theme of Obadiah: appealing for God’s justice against Edom

    * Obadiah’s use of “the day of the LORD” and the universal judgment of all the nations and Israel (Obadiah 1:15)

    Works by Dr. Beth Stovell

    * The Book of the Twelve, with David Fuller. Cascade, 2022

    * Theodicy and Hope in the Book of the Twelve. Edited with G. Athas et al. T&T Clark, 2021

    * Minor Prophets I (Hosea-Micah) and Minor Prophets II (Nahum-Malachi). The Story of God Bible Commentary Series: Old Testament. Zondervan, forthcoming

    * Mapping Metaphorical Discourse in the Fourth Gospel: John's Eternal King. Brill, 2012

    Dr. Beth Stovell recommends

    * The works of Dr. Juliana Claassens, Professor of Old Testament at Stellenbosch University (South Africa)

    * The Africana Bible: Reading Israel's Scriptures from Africa and the African Diaspora. Fortress Press, 2009

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  • Dr. Ian Boxall (St. Stephen's House, University of Oxford) guides us through Revelation 8:6–11:19 (The Seven Trumpets). We discuss:

    * The angels blowing trumpets (8:6)

    * The significance of the great burning mountain and the star being thrown into the waters (8:8-11).

    * The striking and darkening of the sun, moon, and stars (8:12)

    * The eagle that cries woes upon the earth (8:13)

    * The bottomless pit, the smoke, and the bizarre locusts that come up out of the pit (9:1-6)

    * The significance of the locusts as hybrid creatures with features of animals, humans, and demons; their ruler, Abaddon, Apolyon (9:7­–11)

    * The significance of the mighty angel who comes from heaven and who holds a “little scroll open” (10:2)

    * The voice from heaven that instructs John not to write down what he heard the seven thunders say(v. 4), but instead to eat the scroll in the angel’s hand (vv. 8–10).

    * The identity of “the beast that comes up from the bottomless pit” (11:7) and “the great city” (v. 8)

    * The “two witnesses” (11:3)

    Works by Dr. Ian Boxall

    * Christ in the Book of Revelation. Paulist Press, 2021

    * The Book of Revelation and Its Interpreters. Rowman and Littlefield, 2016

    * Patmos in the Reception History of the Apocalypse. Oxford University Press, 2013

    * Revelation: Vision and Insight: An Introduction of the Apocalypse. SPCK, 2002

    * The Revelation of Saint John. Black's New Testament Commentary. Baker Academic, 2009

    Dr. Boxall recommends

    * How to Write a Lot: A Practical Guide to Productive Academic Writing by Paul Silvia

    * The Clockwork Muse: A Practical Guide to Writing Theses, Dissertations, and Books by Eviatar Zerubavel

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  • Micah with Dr. Mark Gignilliat

    Dr. Mark Gignilliat (Beeson Divinity School) guides us through the Book of Micah. We discuss:

    * Micah’s historical context

    * Loving God and loving neighbor as the key themes of Micah

    * The significance of Micah’s position between Jonah and Nahum

    * The interplay of God’s judgment against Israel and the nations

    * The significance of Micah 3:12 in the center of the Twelve, and its theme of the death and resurrection of Zion.

    * Does Micah 4:5 depict a future eschatological vision where Israel worships its God while the other nations worship their gods?

    * The promise of a ruler who will come from Bethlehem (Micah 5:2)

    * The meaning of Micah 6:8, “And what does the Lord require of you but to do justice and to love kindness and to walk humbly with your God.”

    * The interplay of judgment and restoration in Micah 7, and how Micah 7:18–20 uses Exodus 34, where God reveals himself as “merciful and gracious, slow to anger, and abounding in steadfast love . . . yet by no means clearing the guilty.”

    Works by Mark Gignilliat

    * Micah, International Theological Commentary, T&T Clark, 2019

    * Reading Scripture Canonically: Theological Instincts for Old Testament Interpretation. Baker Academic, 2019

    Dr. Mark Gignilliat recommends

    * Make your own sausage and salami

    * Eugene Vodolazkin, Laurus, Oneworld, 2016

    * Iain McGilchrist, The Master and His Emissary: The Divided Brain and the Making of the Western World, Yale University Press, 2009

    * Iain McGilchrist, The Matter with Things: Our Brains, Our Delusions, and the Unmaking of the World, 2 volumes, Perspectiva, 2021

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  • Revelation 6:1-8:5 with Dr. David deSilva

    Dr. David deSilva (Ashland Theological Seminary) guides us through Revelation 6:1-8:5. We discuss:

    * The four bizarre creatures of Revelation 4–5 that appear again in chapter 6.

    * The significance of the four horses and riders (6:1–8).

    * The lament of the martyrs in the heavenly temple, their cry for justice, and the rationale for God’s delayed vengeance (6:9­–11).

    * The 144, 000 from the tribes of Israel (7:4–8) and how they relate to the innumerable number from every tribe and nation (7:9).

    * The marks on the forehead of the 144,000 (7:3).

    * The “great ordeal/tribulation” (7:14).

    Works by David deSilva

    * Discovering Revelation, Eerdmans: 2021.

    * A Week in the Life of Ephesus, IVP Academic, 2020.

    * Unholy Allegiances: Heeding Revelation's Warning, Hendrickson, 2013.

    * Seeing John's Way: The Rhetoric of Revelation, WJK, 2009.

    David deSilva recommends

    * Craig R. Koester, Revelation. Anchor Yale Bible Commentaries. Yale University Press, 2015.

    Next Episode

    Next up on the Two Testaments, Dr. Mark Gignilliat (Beeson Divinity School) guides us through the Book of Micah, and Dr. Ian Boxall (St. Stephen's College, Cambridge University) guides us through Revelation 8:6–11:19.

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  • Jonah with Rev. Dr. Vanessa Lovelace

    Rev. Dr. Vanessa Lovelace (Lancaster Theological Seminary) guides us through the Book of Jonah. We discuss:

    * What we can know about Jonah’s historical context

    * Major themes in Jonah including repentance and forgiveness

    * God relenting from judging Nineveh in Jonah compared to God judging Nineveh in Nahum

    * Jonah as the anti-prophet

    * If Jonah is meant to be taken as a universal or particular message

    * The fish/whale that swallows Jonah

    * Different ways to understand Jonah disobeying God’s call to preach to Nineveh

    * Jonah’s payer as insincere

    * The repentance in Nineveh that includes the animals

    * Understanding God turning from judging Nineveh, and Jonah’s response to God’s mercy

    Works by Vanessa Lovelace

    * Womanist Interpretations of the Bible: Expanding the Discourse. Ed. with G. Byron. SBL Press, 2016.

    * “Jonah.” In Oxford Handbook of the Minor Prophets. Ed. J. O’Brien. Oxford University Press, 2021: 449–460.

    * Outsider-Within: A Womanist Reading of Hebrew Bible Narratives as the Politics of Belonging, forthcoming 2024.

    Vanessa Lovelace recommends

    * Womanist Interpretations of the Bible: Expanding the Discourse. Ed. G. Byron and Vanessa Lovelace. SBL Press, 2016.

    * Wilda Gafney, Womanist Midrash: A Reintroduction to the Women of the Torah and the Throne. Westminster John Knox, 2017.

    * Nyasha Junior, An Introduction to Womanist Biblical Interpretation. Westminster John Knox, 2015.

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  • Dr. Juan Hernández Jr. (Bethel University) guides us through Revelation 4-5. We discuss:

    * The significance of the repeated title, "him who sits on the throne"

    * The four living creatures around the throne

    * The twenty-four elders who lay down their crowns and their hymn

    * Why the scroll cannot be opened

    * John's presentation of the lamb as having seven horns and seven eyes.

    * Why the lamb's blood is said to ransom people

    * John's high christology which parallels the lamb with the one on the throne

    Works by

    * Scribal Habits and Theological Influences in the Apocalypse: The Singular Readings of Sinaiticus, Alexandrinus, and Ephraemi, Mohr Siebeck, 2006.

    Juan Hernández recommends

    * Juan Hernández Jr. recommends reading "Penguin Classics" which form a canon of the best kinds of literature.

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  • Amos with Dr. M. Daniel Carroll R.

    Dr. M. Daniel Carroll R. (Wheaton College) guides us through Amos. We discuss:

    * God as the main theme of Amos

    * The interplay of ethics, theology, and worship

    * The meaning of one of the most well-known verses of Amos: “But let justice roll down like waters, and righteousness like an everlasting stream” (5:24)

    * The judgment of the nations in Amos 1–2 as a strategy of suspense rather than entrapment

    * Whether or not Amos uses the notion of natural law to indict the nations

    * God’s lament over his judgment, and the necessity of judgment for justice

    * The meaning/translation of “the plumb line” as “tin” (Amos 7:7–8)

    * How to understand Amos 7:12–15 and if Amos is a prophet

    * Amos 9 gives hope to Israel by presenting a future in which the people rebuild their lives within the land

    Works by Daniel Carroll

    * "Twenty Years of Amos Research," Currents in Biblical Research 18.1, 2019

    * Amos—The Prophet and His Oracles: Research on the Book of Amos. Westminster John Knox, 2022

    * Amos. NICOT. Eerdmans, 2020

    * The Lord Roars: Recovering the Prophetic Voice for Today. Baker Academic, 2022

    Daniel Carroll Recommends

    * David Nirenberg. Anti-Judaism: The Western Tradition. Norton, 2013

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  • Dr. Jeffrey Weima (Calvin Theological Seminary) guides us through Revelation 2-3. We discuss:

    * The significance of the form of the addresses to the seven churches as sermons rather than letters

    * Why John writes to these seven churches, and the significance of their arrangement

    * What it means that the church in Ephesus "abandoned the love you had at first" (2:4)

    * Who are the Nicolaitans and what did they do and teach? (2:6, 15)

    * The meaning of the phrase "the synagogue of Satan" (2:9; 3:9) and how to handle this phrase in light of the history of anti-Judaism and anti-semitism

    * The meaning of the "hidden manna" and the difficulty of making sense of "the white stone" with the name on it (2:17)

    * The significance of Jezebel (3:17) and the nature of the punishment that she receives: "I am throwing her on a bed" (3:22)

    * The significance of "the key of David" (3:7)

    * The significance of the church of Laodicea being likened to lukewarm water (3:15–16)

    Works by Jeff Weima

    * The Sermons to the Seven Churches of Revelation: A Commentary & Guide. Baker Academic, 2021

    * Paul the Ancient Letter Writer: A Introduction to Epistolary Analysis. Baker Academic, 2016

    * Neglected Endings: The Significance of the Pauline Letter Closings. Sheffield, 1994

    This Week’s Blurb

    Jeff Weima recommends:

    * Taking a Biblical Study Tour to Turkey with Jeff Weima.

    * For more information, visit his website www.jeffreyweima.com

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    In our next episode, Dr. Daniel Carroll (Rodas) (Wheaton College) guides us through the book of Amos.

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  • Joel with Dr. Christopher Seitz

    Dr. Christopher Seitz (Wycliffe College, University of Toronto) guides us through the Book of Joel. We discuss:

    * How to read a book (like Joel) that does not situate itself historically and temporally

    * The significance of the four locusts in Joel–the swarming locust, the hopping locust, the destroying locust, the cutting locust (Joel 1:4)

    * How Joel’s phrase “the day of the LORD” can refer to two days

    * The place of the nations in God’s future deliverance and judgment in the book of Joel

    Works by Christopher Seitz

    * Canon and Prophecy: The Rise of a New Model for Interpretation. Mohr Siebeck, 2021

    * The Character of Christian Scripture: The Significance of a Two Testament Bible. Baker Academic, 2011

    * ITC (International Theological) Commentary on Joel. T&T Clark, 2016

    * Prophecy and Hermeneutics: Toward a New Introduction to the Prophets. Baker Academic, 2007

    This Week’s Blurb

    Christopher Seitz recommends:

    * Music from Cory Asbury

    * The Ignatian Spiritual Method

    * Works by Elisabeth Elliot

    Next Episode

    In our next episode, Jeff Weima (Calvin Theological Seminary) guides us through Revelation 2-3.

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  • Revelation 1 with Dr. Robyn Whitaker

    Dr. Robyn Whitaker (Pilgrim Theological College, University of Divinity) guides us through Revelation 1. We discuss:

    * The rhetorical/persuasive and iconic function of vivid imagery

    * Whose apocalypse is this, and what does it mean that it is a prophecy?

    * Which John is responsible for Revelation and why is he in Patmos?

    * John's descriptions of: God; the seven spirits; and Jesus Christ

    * The vision of the Son of Man and how it functions as ekphrasis (i.e., vivid visual description)

    * What it means that Jesus is "the First and the Last" and that he has the keys to death and Hades (1:17–18)

    Works by Robyn Whitaker

    * Even the Devil Quotes Scripture: Reading the Bible on Its Own Terms. Eerdmans, 2023.

    * "Invoking Jezebel, Invoking Terror: Exploring the Sexualization of Conflict in the Biblical Tradition." In Terror in the Bible: Rhetoric, Gender, and Violence. Edited by M. Melanchthon and R. Whitaker. SBL Press, 2021.

    * Ekphrasis, Vision, and Persuasion in the Book of Revelation. Mohr Siebeck, 2015.

    This Week’s Blurb

    Robyn Whitaker recommends:

    * Vegemite, an Australian spread

    * Recommends listening to the book of Revelation

    Next Week

    Next week, Dr. Christopher R. Seitz (Wycliffe College, University of Toronto) guides us through the Book of Joel.

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