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In this edition of The Way Out Iâm beyond thrilled to bring you an outstanding interview with person in recovery, loyal listener of The Way Out, and now our special guest to share his journey to and through recovery to this point, Ryan Kemmers. I just know all you all will find Ryanâs story super relatable just like I did, from a chaotic childhood, to the impact of alcoholism and addiction in the family to self-medicating mental health symptoms and perhaps most universal the inevitable progression of use to abuse, and ultimately ever deepening addiction and alcoholism. Ryan shares how âRyanâs Wayâ as he refers to it didnât work in attempting to manage his drinking and what it took to finally surrender and ask a Higher Power he had no relationship with and didnât even understand for help. What happens next, and by next, I mean quite literally the next day, which I refuse to spoil in this here intro, is nothing short of an act of providence and launches Ryan into a 12-Step centered recovery that until that moment he never thought was possible. Ryan went all in on Recovery and now he shares with us all the tools, skills, and resources, including working the 12-Steps in order with a sponsor and this very podcast, that propelled him into a meaningful and rewarding recovery so listen up.
Recovery Literature (Quit-Lit) Recommendation:
The Heroin Diaries by Nikki Six: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/The-Heroin-Diaries-Ten-Year-Anniversary-Edition/Nikki-Sixx/9781501187544
Best Piece of Recovery Advice: Recovery comes to those who want it
Songs that symbolize Recovery:
Come Back to Earth by Mac Miller:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4ocPPhtglU
Life is Beautiful by SIXX A.M.:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjX2KYuAJcA
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On this edition of The Way Out our tremendous co-host Jason brings us an interview with the Director of a New York based nonprofit organization Hope on a Mission, Cara Mia Bacchiochi. This woman is a true warrior for her community. Her street outreach started and grew on one street corner, simply by loving on the people in the neighborhood by providing those in need with meals and personal hygiene products. Cara shares her journey to and through recovery to this point, how all of her community service came to be, and how it has continued to evolve. Caraâs recovery story is one of redemption and the transformative power of the God of Her Understanding working wonders in her life and as a result the lives of many others so listen up.
Contact Cara Mia at [email protected]
Recovery resources and related links:
https://www.hopeonamission.org/
https://for-ny.org/
https://www.samhsa.gov/
https://oasas.ny.gov/
https://www.asapnys.org/
Best Piece of Advice: "Stay in your square"
Book recommendation: The Four Agreements by Don Miguel Ruiz
Song that symbolizes recovery:
You Say by Lauren Daigle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIaT8Jl2zpI
Touch the Sky by Hillsong UNITED
https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=eBmbPEi5LR4&feature=share
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In this rendition of The Way Out weâve got an outstanding interview with Interventionist, Recovery Coach, Author, Podcaster, speaker and person in long-term recovery, Rob Lohman. As Rob shares with us in our interview, all the amazing aforementioned titles attached to Robâs name are the result of his anything but linear journey to and through recovery to this point which is precisely why Robâs story is so incredibly relatable, enlightening, and moving. After years of sobriety Rob experienced a personal crisis due to what in retrospect amounted to failing to continue to progress and stay connected to his recovery. A crisis, that landed him in prison, and out of that Rob began a renewed journey to a fuller, more enduring and rewarding Recovery that was the result of leaning in and doing the hard work true recovery requires. The results have been nothing short of remarkable for Rob, his family, and for the people his amazing work in Recovery coaching, Podcasting, Speaking, and writing touches and truly helps, all of which Rob shares with us in the interview thatâs about to unfold before your very ears so listen up.
Contact Rob Lohman
https://liftedfromtherut.com/about/
Addiction, Freedom, and Faith Podcast with Rob Lohman:
https://liftedfromtherut.com/podcasts/addiction-freedom-faith-podcast/
Beyond the Bars Radio Podcast with Rob Lohman:
https://liftedfromtherut.com/the-beyond-the-bars-radio-podcast/
Recovery Literature (Quit-Lit) Recommendation:
Alcoholics Anonymous (Big Book): https://www.aa.org/the-big-book
Victory over the Darkness: https://freedominchrist.com/victoryoverthedarkness-new.aspx
Recovery Advice: You can be anything as long as your spiritual conditioning is right
Song that symbolizes Recovery: No Longer Slaves by Zach Williams: https://youtu.be/bDnA_coA168
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In this edition of The Way Out Our spectacular co-host Jason has a fantastic interview with person in long term recovery, Edward Charpentier. Edward shares his rollercoaster ride of a journey to and through recovery to this point with us which is jam packed with practical advice and sage recovery wisdom. This undeniable wealth of wisdom Ed shares is no doubt the result of many ups, plenty of downs and years in and out of recovery and proof positive that success is often the end result of repeated failures. Indeed, these failures served as lessons that only strengthened Ed on his path to meaningful and enduring recovery. Our hope is each and every one of you get as much out of this interview as we did, so listen up.
Contact Edward at [email protected]
Book Recommendation: The Four Agreements by Don Miguel Ruiz
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1878424319/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_bibl_vppi_i0
Best Advice: Be a man of integrity and do the right thing when no-one is looking.
Song that symbolizes recovery to Ed: Easy on Me by Adele
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-yIEMduRXk
Don't forget to check out "The Way Out Playlist" available only on Spotify. Curated by all of our wonderful guests on the podcast!
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In this edition of The Way Out we have a fantastic interview with public speaker and author in Recovery, Brendon Watt. As a lead facilitator with Access Consciousness, Brendon empowers others to know they are not wrong, that anything is possible, and that they are just one choice away from change. Brendon shares with us his journey to and through recovery to this point as well as a wealth of recovery and wellness wisdom and how his recovery has turned into a superpower in his work in empowering others in their own journeys of personal growth. Recovery affords us the opportunity to lean into the tools of our recovery program of choice and embrace a path to increasingly greater wellness which leads to a state of emotional sobriety and that results in rewarding and enduring recovery and an unmistakable sense of wellbeing. Brendonâs story is proof positive that when we prioritize getting well ourselves first, we can be of far greater service to others as a direct result so listen up.
Contact Brendon Watt:
https://www.brendonwatt.com/
Access Consciousness:
https://www.accessconsciousness.com/en/
Book - Right Recovery for You
https://www.accessconsciousness.com/en/micrositesfolder/right-recovery-for-you/
Advice - You're going to have to learn to care for YOU
Song - Pearl Jam Even Flow
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxKWTzr-k6s
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In this rendition of The Way Out Ashley Grimes sits down with Recovery Podcast co-host and all around recovery superstar Jason and, as happens so often here on The Way Out Podcast blows our collective minds at the power of recovery. As youâll soon hear, Ashely is a true recovery powerhouse. Ashley shares with us her seemingly hopeless journey to and through recovery to this point and how she ended up becoming the President of Florida chapter of the National Alliance on Mental Illness, or NAMI, an organizer with the Florida Recovery Advocacy Project, co-host of the Recovery Revolution Podcast, and perhaps most importantly, she got to be a mother again! There's so much hope and wisdom in this episode so listen up.
Contact Ashley: www.linkedin.com/in/ashley-grimes-pmp
https://www.facebook.com/aopibull84/
Recovery Resources:
www.recoveryvoices.com
www.namiflorida.org
www.volusiarecoveryalliance.org
Book Recommendation: Addiction Manifesto by JR Weaver
https://www.amazon.com/Addiction-Manifesto-Weaver-Jr/
Best Piece of advice: "Take it one day at a time, putting one foot in front of the other, and keep doing the next right thing."
Song that symbolizes recovery: Beauty in the Struggle by Bryan Martin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTv2SzvZ0ys
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In this edition of The Way Out Iâm incredibly honored to bring you an exceptionally powerful, illuminating, relatable, and inspiring interview with person in long term recovery and co-founder of Workit Health, Lisa McLaughlin. Lisa and I had a lot in common coming of age in the same era in the Midwest of the U.S., albeit in different cities proper, which made for one of the most entertaining interviews Iâve personally done, and for that matter one of the best weâve ever had on The Way Out in quite some time. Lisa shares with us her journey to and through recovery to this point with remarkable insight, introspection, and relatability thatâs at once revealing and instructive to our own individual recovery journeys. Whatâs more, Lisa shares the collective experiences that motivated her to found Workit Health along with co-founder Robin McIntosh, which is a tele-medicine care service focused on treating Substance Use Disorder that offers a wide range of services including harm reduction, medication assisted recovery, CBT, and mental health services to address all of the needs of the human being that is seeking care. So many of us in Recovery can relate to the agonizing experience of the death of a loved due to Substance Use Disorder, and Lisa is no exception. Their mission is embodied by a phrase she shares with us in the interview, âWe do what we do for the lost, to the livingâ. Together, Lisa and Robin decided that they were going to do something about it by creating Workit Health to address the gaps in the existing model of care for Substance Use Disorder and bring all established methodologies and interventions to bear through a single, low barrier, source. Lisa and I have a captivating discussion about the importance of embracing all pathways to recovery and recovering out loud as she shares her amazing recovery journey, all the while spreading the message that rewarding and enduring recovery is absolutely possible and totally worth it when you Workit so listen up.
More about Workit Health:
https://www.workithealth.com/
Recovery Literature (Quit-Lit) recommendations:
The Spirituality of Imperfection by Ernest Kurtz and Katherine Ketcham:
https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/96307/the-spirituality-of-imperfection-by-ernest-kurtz-and-katherine-ketcham/
Growth Mindset book by Carol S. Dweck:
https://www.amazon.com/Mindset-Psychology-Carol-S-Dweck/dp/0345472322
Best piece of recovery advice - You're only as sick as your secrets
Song - Eye of the Tiger by Survivor:
https://youtu.be/btPJPFnesV4
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In this edition of The Way Out, recovery podcast co-host Jason has a tremendous interview with two persons in long term recovery and a true power couple in the recovery community, Aleksandra Bembnista and Tony Cassese. Aleksandra is the founder of the nonprofit organization Glorious Recovery, and Tony is an addiction recovery professional. We get to hear their individual stories and talk about how they met. We'll also learn what Glorious Recovery is all about, how they bring joy to people in recovery, and explore what the future looks like for each of them! There's a whole lot of passion for Recovery and Recovery wisdom shared in the enlightening Recovery centric discussion thatâs about to unfold right before your very ears so listen up.
Best piece of advice:
Alex = "Open your eyes! The recovery world is so BIG! Recovery can be whatever you want it to be!"
Tony = "Identify and maintain your own balance" and "You can't save your ass and your face at the same time."
Book Recommendations:
Alex= American Fix by Ryan Hampton
https://www.amazon.com/American-Fix-Inside-Opioid-Addiction/
Tony= How it Works and Why, Narcotics Anonymous: Twelve Steps and Traditions
https://www.amazon.com/Works-How-Why-Traditions-Narcotics-Anonymous
Songs that symbolize recovery:
Alex = Glorious by Macklemore:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OrLroFa0AI
Tony = How many times by Joe Nester:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zu9P613nTNo
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In this edition of The Way Out, we have a tremendously insightful and beneficial interview with therapist and accomplished Author of numerous books, including The Proactive 12-Steps: A Mindful Program for Lasting Change, Serge Prengel. At the center of the work in Sergeâs new book is two fundamental truths; the first is that in Recovery, indeed fundamentally as humans we will encounter counterproductive thought and behavior patterns that will interfere with our ability to experience moments of peace and happiness and a life that is marked with joy and serenity to the exact extent and proportion to the severity of our existing maladaptive coping mechanisms. The second, and perhaps more important, is that the 12-Steps can truly be a design for living when we apply them to our lives in a proactive fashion resulting in concrete and enduring behavior change, a formula that we can use to address any counterproductive thought or behavior pattern that is causing the universally human experience of suffering and getting in the way of our ability to enjoy life. In short, we have the opportunity as people in Recovery to stop getting in our own way and mindfully and actively choose to pause and if so inclined, invite in our Higher Power and then respond or not respond to events and circumstances in our lives in an increasingly healthy way that is consistent with the people, we ultimately aim to be instead of reacting with our default programming. Sergeâs message is one I wholeheartedly agree with, which is if we chose to embark on this journey of the Proactive 12-Steps it is both a process and a practice, and we shouldnât expect to instantly eliminate all our undesirable thought and behavior patterns and replace them with ideal responses overnight. This work is what enduring and rewarding Recovery is all about, indeed this work generates the personal growth that results in what is often referred to as emotional sobriety, and the discussion thatâs about to unfold before your very ears will illustrate precisely how we achieve this seemingly illusive and enlightened state of consciousness, so listen up.
Contact Serge Prengel:
https://proactivechange.com/and/contact/index.htm
Recovery literature (Quit-Lit) Recommendation: The Proactive 12-Steps: A Mindful Program for Lasting Change by Serge Prengel:
https://proactive12steps.com/
Best piece of advice: Find one or a group of peers in recovery or likeminded friend to work through The Proactive 12-Steps
Song that reminds serge of Recovery â No specific song, but a classical symphony
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in this edition of The Way Out, our intrepid co-host Jason brings us a truly special interview with person in long term recovery, motivational speaker, educator, trainer, professional storyteller, and award-winning spoken word poet Joseph Green. Joseph has been featured in numerous publications as well as the recently released award winning documentary film, Tipping the Pain Scale. Josephâs presentations and workshops are for anybody seeking a reconnection to purpose, motivation, or community. Joseph has a distinct ability to viscerally articulate the emotional experience of addiction, and the imperfection of what recovery can feel like. One of Josephâs core messages he shares with us and audiences worldwide is one that is at the center of what The Way Out Podcast is all about - the truly transformative power of Story. Finding our voices and sharing the inspirational and healing power embodied within our powerful Recovery stories has the very real capacity to heal others while at the very same time healing ourselves through the transformational power of connection, purpose, and community. Of equal value is how Josephâs work serves as an important reminder that more important than knowing what we are fighting against is knowing and never forgetting what we are fighting for. Whatever you do, be sure to stay tuned until the end of the interview for a one of a kind performance of one of his original poems that is sure to blow your mind, a poem that starts with a line that so eloquently encapsulates what we here at The Way Out Podcast wish for each and every one of you, which reads - May you find at the height of your recovery what you never found at the bottom of your addiction. The rest of that outstanding piece of poetry is yours to behold at the end of this extraordinary interview, so be sure to listen up.
Contact Joseph Green: CEO LMSvoice- Motivator - Educator - Storyteller
www.lmsvoice.com
Book recommendation: The Power Of Habit by Charles Duhigg
https://charlesduhigg.com/the-power-of-habit/
Best piece of advice: "The reason most people fail instead of succeed is because they trade the thing that they most want for what they want at the moment."
Song that symbolizes recovery: Float On by Modest Mouse
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTAud5O7Qqk
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In this rendition of The Way Out we have an extremely relatable and inspiring discussion with musician, fellow podcaster and person in long term recovery Nick Warnke. Nickâs journey to and through recovery from addiction to this point was anything but linear, which only adds to the inspirational and relatable value embodied within his nothing short of miraculous story. Perhaps the most edifying elements personified by Nickâs journey, in order of appearance, are that childhood trauma and adverse childhood experiences are not a prerequisite to experience a substance use disorder, the reality is that addiction can take hold with or without childhood trauma. Perhaps equally instructive is how Nickâs substance use evolved from an easier to justify pill addiction to IV heroin use and the insidious justifications that accompanied this near fatal escalation. The lines we draw while in the throws of addiction that we swear we will not cross, and mean it with every fiber of our being, can be rationalized and justified rather swiftly when in the midst of an excruciating withdrawal. A few fateful experiences precipitated by what can only be described as an extraordinary recovery that included true surrender, taking suggestions, doing the deep and often uncomfortable work of Recovery, and surrendering the outcome to a power greater than himself and resulted in Nick being of service in truly wonderful ways and continuing to use the skills and tools of recovery one day at a time - and heâs just getting started so Listen Up.
Contact Nick Warnke:
Heroin Survivor on Facebook:
https://www.facebook.com/Heroin-Survivor-100611671921257
Survivor Sessions Podcast on Spotify and Facebook:
https://open.spotify.com/show/5tnjXJzZ9kuMjQy4El96vZ?si=254eff7938084917https://open.spotify.com/show/5tnjXJzZ9kuMjQy4El96vZ?si=254eff7938084917
https://www.facebook.com/groups/258354279219224
More information on Highly Sensitive People:
https://hsperson.com/
Advice - Always trust your gut
Recovery Literature (Quit Lit) Recommendation - Think and Grow Rich by Napoleon Hill:
https://soilandhealth.org/wp-content/uploads/0304spiritpsych/030413.Hill.Think.and.Grow.Rich.pdf
Song that symbolizes Recovery to Nick:
Nicky Logos: When My World Fell Down
https://open.spotify.com/track/6wL0wuhSqCEUU2xreMudBY?si=c921ed34cb504dd8
More Music by Nicky Logos (Nick Warnke):
https://open.spotify.com/user/1238165186?si=ee2cacca6dd349d7
Meraki Sober Living Program:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/1898107106999521/
Twin Cities Wellness Center and Recovery Gym:
https://www.facebook.com/TwinCitiesWellnessCenter
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In this edition of The Way Out, our beloved and intrepid recovery podcast co-host Jason is back with an outstanding interview with person in long term Recovery, JR Weaver. JR is the author of the self-help book, Addiction Manifesto, and the CEO and founder of Recovery Revolution, which started as a Facebook page and has evolved into a 501C3 nonprofit with more than 246,000 followers. He is also a recovery advocate, Certified Peer Recovery Specialist, and a mentor for the Veteran Treatment Court in Charleston County South Carolina. Above all else, JR is a genuinely amazing human being which is revealed as he shares his journey to and through recovery with us to this point. No doubt JRâs Higher Power is making big moves through JR as a result of his amazing recovery journey as manifested by his work in the recovery community and you're about to learn all about it so listen up.
JR's contact info: [email protected]
Recovery resources: http://recovery-revolution.org/
Veterans Treatment Court | Probate Court Office (charlestoncounty.org)
https://www.charlestoncounty.org/departments/probate/veterans-treatment-court.php
Addiction Manifesto by JR Weaver:
https://www.amazon.com/Addiction-Manifesto-Weaver-Jr/dp/1638377634/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1638241024&sr=8-1
Book Recommendation: The Bible
Life verse: Ephesians Chapter 6:10-20
Best Advice: "Just show up!"
Recovery song: Reckless Love by Cory Asbury
https://youtu.be/7GGJ8cyYNzQ
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In this edition of The Way Out we have Recovery Coach, psychotherapist, author, and person in long term recovery herself â Veronica Valli. Veronica was an absolute delight to interview for myriad reasons, not the least of which is her remarkable ability to get to the heart of what our core problem is and precisely how we can address it with her new book Soberful â Uncover a sustainable, fulfilling life free of alcohol. Many of us, myself included, can identify with the persistent internal emotional and mental turmoil that is so eloquently described in the Big Book of Alcoholics Anonymous by Bill Wilson as restlessness, irritability, and discontentedness that prior to recovery is but temporarily assuaged through succumbing to our addictive behavior or substance of choice. This presents the impossible predicament of not being able to manage our addiction, yet not being able to tolerate abstaining from our addiction lest we become â you guessed it â restless, irritable, and discontent. Indeed, that was my dilemma and that of countless others prior to doing the deep, meaningful work that defines the process of recovery which is why Veronicaâs book is both a desperately needed and exceedingly valuable recovery resource. It answers the question to What do I do now that I quit my addiction with her 5 pillars of sustainable sobriety. These pillars, which are movement, connection, balance, process, and growth address our counterproductive default thought and behavior patterns that all too often conspire against us and become all but impossible to ignore once weâve put the proverbial plug in the jug. Veronica shares how doing this work delivers on the promise our substance or behavior of choice originally offered and much more â a life that is meaningful, rewarding, and fulfilling â you might call it a Soberful life, so listen up.
Contact Veronica Valli:
https://soberful.com/contact/
Learn more or purchase Veronicaâs new Book Soberful: Uncover a Sustainable, Fulfilling Life Free of Alcohol:
https://soberful.com/books-by-veronica-valli/
Veronicaâs recovery literature (quit-lit) recommendations:
Sermon on the Mount by Emmet Fox:
https://www.amazon.com/Sermon-Mount-Key-Success-Life/dp/0060628626
Around the Year with Emmet Fox:
https://www.amazon.com/Around-Year-Emmet-Fox-Readings/dp/0062504088/ref=sr_1_1?crid=20QMKGHRZBSUD&keywords=around+the+year+with+emmet+fox&qid=1644276390&s=books&sprefix=around+the+year%2Cstripbooks%2C91&sr=1-1
Veronicaâs Recovery advice: Do the Steps â Youâll be Contacted!
More about EMDR Therapy:
https://www.emdria.org/about-emdr-therapy/
More about Tapping:
https://www.webmd.com/balance/what-is-eft-tapping
Songs that symbolize Recovery to Veronica:
Hallelujah by Jeff Buckley:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8AWFf7EAc4
Amazing Grace:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsCp5LG_zNE
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In this edition of The Way Out, weâve got an exceedingly illuminating and enlightening interview with Author, Artist and Teacher Day Schildkret whoâs new book Hello, Goodbye: 75 Rituals for Times of Loss, Celebration, and Change though not written exclusively for the Recovery Community is nonetheless extremely relevant to those of us who are in Recovery. Rituals are an extremely practical way to attach tangible meaning to significant events and to add meaning to daily life through attaching that activity or event with a specific act like preparing a meal, burning something, or even doing something as seemingly simple like lighting a candle. The magic in ritual is that itâs rooted in the idea that itâs action that changes our thinking and emotions not the other way around which is so eloquently expressed by one of my most beloved Recovery sayings â We canât think our way into right living, we must act or way into right thinking. Day and I talk on why ritual is a valuable exercise and why itâs so completely compatible with many Recovery programs and practices. Plus we discuss the difference between routine and ritual and highlight some easy rituals you can implement into your recovery repertoire so listen up.
Contact Day Schildkret:
https://www.morningaltars.com/
http://instagram.com/morningaltars
http://www.facebook.com/morningaltars
Hello, Goodbye: 75 Rituals for Times of Loss, Celebration, and Change by Day Schildkret:
https://www.amazon.com/Hello-Goodbye-Rituals-Celebration-Change/dp/198217093X
Book Recommendation: Die Wise by Stephen Jenkinson
https://orphanwisdom.com/die-wise/
Advice: Keep the Faith
Song That Reminds Day of Ritual: Sufjan Stevens - The Greatest Gift
https://youtu.be/22QKbw_c_yM
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In this edition of The Way Out we have an outstanding interview with person in long term recovery, Vienna, a marketing extraordinaire by day and social media sober inspiration and artist by night. Vienna shares with us her journey to and through Recovery this point, which has been marked by both sides of the destructive force of addiction and alcoholism in first having to watch helplessly as loved ones fall into the spiral of addiction and ultimately enduring the death of a partner due to addiction. Addiction wasnât done with Vienna yet, as she ended up having her own reckoning with alcoholism. Viennaâs unmitigated candor in relating her story and undeniable inspiration is extremely relatable so listen up.
If you want to reach out to Vienna, email [email protected]
Recovery literature (Quit Lit) Recommendation: Blackout: Remembering the things I drank to forget
https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/blackout-sarah-hepola/1120481005
Best piece of Recovery advice: Be yourself
Song that reminds Vienna of Recovery: Goodbye my Lover by James Blunt:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVyggTKDcOE
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In this edition of The Way Out, our intrepid recovery co-host Jason has an outstanding interview with Recovery advocate and ally Jaclyn Brown who is also a survivor of a loss of a family member due to addiction. Jaclyn is also the creator and host of the Dark and Enlightened Podcast, a podcast in which Jason was a recent guest so be sure to check that episode out post haste! Jaclyn shares about her life and the loss of her brother Mark to an overdose in 2018, an experience that made her aware that she needed to dig deep and work on herself. Her journey of self-discovery both enlightened and inspired her to learn as much as she could about the disease of addiction. Today Jaclyn is a harm reduction expert, Narcan trainer and volunteer, and all-around recovery advocate extraordinaire. Jaclynâs story is just beginning, as she just quit her job in Corporate America in search of a true vocation in the recovery sphere, and Jasonâs interview with this recovery powerhouse starts right now, so listen up.
Contact Info and Resource Links:
https://darkandenlightened.buzzsprout.com/
https://sitdaz.org/
https://www.recoveryvoices.com/
https://www.shatterproof.org/
Best piece of advice: "Focus on the now!"
Books: The Power of Now by Eckhart Tolle and The Alchemist by Paulo Coelho
https://shop.eckharttolle.com/collections/books/products/the-power-of-now
Recovery Song: Macklemore - Ain't Gonna Die Tonight:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIIP8eS3tvc
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In this rendition of The Way Out Iâm incredibly honored to bring you my interview with writer, author, and person in long term recovery Jeff Romig. Jeff shares his journey to and through recovery to this point with us from both alcoholism and suicidal ideation and the inspiration behind his new, incredibly relatable, and well written book Donât Fucking Kill Yourself: A Memoir of Suicide, Survival, and Stories that Keep Us Alive. The book reads like my memory works, which is to say itâs not written in chronological order yet as the story unfolds it very much feels itâs happening in just the order itâs supposed to. Well documented is the incidence of the cooccurrence of addiction and mental illness and my experience and that of many others whoâve shared their stories with us is that only through actively addressing both the alcoholism or addiction along with the mental health disorder does true recovery and wellness begin to take hold and indeed flourish. That certainly is echoed in masterful fashion in Jeffâs book and throughout the interview where thereâs no shortage of recovery and spiritual truth and perhaps the best part is we didnât forget to have a little fun in our discussion along the way so listen up.
Contact Jeff & Learn More About the Book Don't Fucking Kill Yourself and the Podcast Suicide Survival Stories:
https://www.suicidesurvivalstories.org/
Book - Higher Power: Seeking God in 12-Step Recovery by Douglas D. Himes: https://www.logos.com/product/26840/higher-power-seeking-god-in-12-step-recovery
Advice - Don't Drink & Go to Meetings
Song - 26 by Paramore: https://youtu.be/_t-nRXwAL1k
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In this edition of The Way out, recovery co-host extraordinaire Jason had the pleasure of talking with Chekesha Kay Ellis about her opioid journey and Recovery advocacy. She never so much as touched a drug in her life, but a torn meniscus began a 10 year prescription addiction that nearly killed her, and did indeed cause opioid toxicity, which permanently damaged her hearing. Chekeshaâs transparency as she shares her journey to and through recovery to this point is nothing short of amazing. Without question, this episode features a whole lot of real recovery talk, so listen up.
Contact info: [email protected]
Website: chasenomore.org
Best piece of advice: Let go of toxic people
Book recommendation: CashApp $15 to Chekesha Ellis at $Chasenomore
for autographed copies of A Life Of Kayos: My Opioid Journey through Hell, Hope and Healing
Or buy on Amazon
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B08RC5RCV6/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?ie=UTF8&qid=1629736231&sr=8-1-fkmr0%2F
Resources:
Recoveryvoices.com
Shatterproof.org
Song recommendations:
Pick up the pieces -by Average White Band
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnH_zwVmiuE
Keep On -by D Train
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qY1RvCU0rII
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In this edition of The Way Out Iâm downright ecstatic about bringing you all my interview with musician and person in long term recovery STATiC whom I had the tremendous opportunity to meet while doing our still very much relevant Panel Discussion on Staying Sober for the Holidays along with mutual friend Shane Ramer and The Way Outâs spectacular co-host Jason Rudeen which is available for your listening pleasure on episode number 267 on the very same platform youâre listening to this episode on. STATiC shares his super relatable journey to and through Recovery to this point with us with true sincerity and humility along with an abundance of Recovery and Spiritual wisdom to boot. STATiC and I have an absolute blast as we talk growing up as self-identified misfits in the 80âs and 90âs, our mutual love of guitars and great music, and of course STATiCâs road to Recovery, woven with the all the pain, struggle and adversity along with the vital tools, truth and hope that his story and life now very much embodies - All of which makes up the beautiful noise that is Recovery from alcoholism and addiction so listen up.
Contact STATiC:
https://staticisnoise.com/
https://linktr.ee/staticisnoise
Recovery Literature (Quit-Lit) Recommendation - Came to Believe:
https://www.betterworldbooks.com/product/detail/Came-to-Believe-9780916856052
Best Piece of Recovery Advice: Stay (In the program, in Recovery)
Song that symbolizes Recovery:
Fascination Street by The Cure:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ycl_ayPHU0
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In this edition of The Way Out, our beloved recovery podcast co-host Jason catches up with an old friend, Cynthia Baade who is a person in long term recovery and a Certified Peer Recovery Specialist Reciprocal. Now time for a moment of total and complete transparency for a purpose about this interview. One of Cynthiaâs little ones is in the background on and off as you heard in the intro and that continues in the interview along with a cacophony of background noise on and off. My first gut instinct was we needed to scrap the whole thing and re-record the entire interview. But then I decided I was going to start editing it anyhow, which now feels very much like a Higher Power moment. No doubt, the audio on this interview is far from perfect despite my best efforts to work my editing magic. What is also undeniably true is how genuinely authentic and refreshing it is to hear Cynthia tell her story with the medley of sounds that make up the day-to-day life of a parent in Recovery. Life isnât perfect and flawless, and either is recovery â and both are beautiful not despite the flaws but because of them. Without the flaws and imperfections Recovery and indeed life would be rather bland and uninspiring. Iâm grateful to have a connection with my Higher Power that allowed me to recognize and embrace the beauty that lied beneath the imperfection so we all can hear Cynthiaâs amazing journey to and through recovery to this point. Cynthia is extremely honest and vulnerable in this conversation. Her natural storytelling ability will draw you in as she reveals her extensive history. We learn how she broke generational cycles and is starting a new kind of legacy for her own family. The purpose and love she has found in her life will inspire you and warm your heart so listen up.
Book Recommendation:
Adult Children of Alcoholics
https://www.amazon.com/Adult-Children-Alcoholics-Janet-Woititz/
Songs that symbolize recovery:
A BETTER ME - LeeLee
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cr4ufa3kptM
and
How it feels - Rare of Breed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_k8qkPFpHYY
Best advice: " It's OK to not be OK"
Contact Info and Resources=
www.missionrestart.net
(218) 999-4066 (Peer support phone line)
Cynthia Baade C.P.R.S.R
President and Founder
https://firstcall211.net (mental health crisis line, information and Referral line)
https://www.mcboard.org
https://www.hopehousetreatment.org
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