Episodes

  • Episode 88 marks the return of TM Pod’s VERY FIRST guest Los Angeles based creative / clown Paul Schlesinger.

    Paul is one of my best friends and favorite collaborators so it’s a special pleasure to catch up with him in the pod context. Our conversation focuses on his life today learning, producing and performing in the very happening LA ‘clown community’.

    He explains that modern clowning has roots stretching back to European traditional clowning and the circus clowns which most of us think of when we hear the word ‘clown’ but that it is also informed by the worlds of performance art, experimental theater, stand-up and improv as well.

    This talk couldn’t have come at a better moment for me with my very recent return to stand-up comedy. I hope it is just as interesting for you, dear listener.

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    Links:

    Paul Schlesinger Instagram

    clownpoems Instagram

    Eddie Pepitone comedy

    Secret Room Press

    Music:

    Inside Miracles /Paul Schlesinger w/Jason Traeger

    'Summer'

    'Alt Break-up Song'

    'Universe (Lovely Gift of Life)'

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  • The podcast is back. We were gone for a spell. Now we’re back. Episode 87 finds us easing back into the podwaters with a low-key ‘comfort food’ conversation between myself and TMpod regular Sean Kelly (father, Tight Bros From Way Back When, SUBPOP, K Records, west coast punk rock real one)

    We share a warm hearted conversation that touches on the joy of vinyl records, old guitars, self directed programs of learning and growing and other stuff that confirms we are walking, talking embodied cliches of late middle aged Portland music/culture guys.

    It’s all love and light with some very tiny dustings of existential horror and dread on top to keep things balanced. Thank you so much for listening and for supporting the pod. WE LOVE YOU.

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    LINKS of stuff mentioned in episode:

    Gossip

    Language Transfer

    Merle Travis

    Los Escarabajos

    Hipgnosis Documentary

    MUSIC:
    Intro:Come Closer ‘Castle Walls’ from 'We Died with Print' LP

    Segue: Tight Bros From Way Back When ‘Hurricane’

    Outro: Be Fair ‘Hadfield 5’

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  • Hello and welcome!

    Our ‘Legends of San Diego Punk’ series continues on the pod…

    Episode 86 is a conversation with one of the great flyer artists of early 80’s ‘Slow Death’ scene, the very talented artist / tattooer Bobby Lane.

    Bobby paints a picture of his experiences going to his first shows as a teenager in 1980 just as the ‘hardcore’ era was adding a new even more aggressive and stripped down feel to the punk/new wave style that came before.

    He shares memories of San Diego / Los Angeles punk graphic masters Mad Marc Rude and Shawn Kerri. Two greats whose styles informed his own and pretty much every other punk who’s ever picked up a pen in their wake, myself included.

    We talk about tattooing in San Diego and the evolution of the craft from the earlier period of wall flash, sailors and bikers to the modern era of bespoke designs and market saturation.

    We go on to discuss how the rebellious spirit at the heart of punk naturally leads to endless cycles of orthodoxy and overthrow as new generations reimagine, reinvent and make it their own. He cites SD experimental/ecstatic collective/band Crash Worship as the embodiment of this spirit without any of the proscribed stylistic cues.

    I know you’ll enjoy listening as much as I enjoyed talking with Bobby. I look forward to having him back on the pod soon.

    Thank you for listening!

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    LINKS

    Bobby's Instagram

    In reference to my episode intro:

    Israel/Palestine vids from AJ+

    How Israel Was Created

    How Israel Automated Occupation in Hebron

    Palestinian voice: Noura Erakat

    Dr Gabor Mate On Trauma

    Music:

    Bobby's band Cholla

    Crash Worship live in Bremen 1996

    TMpod theme by Jason

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  • Hello and Welcome, dear listener.

    Episode 86 is the beginning of a conversation with San Diego punk legend Chris Squire. Chris has done it all, he’s run a record label, booked bands, done sound production, and he’s either sung, played bass, guitar or drums in a ton of bands; PG13, The Tori Cobras, Belle Cora, Tit Wrench, Tiltwheel, Battalion of Saints, Russian Tremors, Kerosene, Tar Halos, Dark Sarcasm, TV Eye, Digital Leather, Bizarro Son, No Laughing Matter, Dog Boy, Royal Pains, Half On Tongue, Sloog, Blades, Unit Unit, Go Go Lords, King Wheelie, Plasticman, Cholla … to name most of them?

    Part one of the Squire story really starts around 1980 when he begins attending The San Diego School of the Creative and Performing Arts where he meets his guitar and boombox toting soon to be lifelong friend John Reis who introduces him to Dead Kennedys and Black Flag and sets him on a course that takes us through to Chris starting his first band PG13 later in the 80’s. Amazingly, the first hardcore show he attends in 1984 is an Aggression and Ill Repute show at Fairmount Hall that my friends and I produced! A very cool factoid I did not know.

    Along the way, as Chris’ story unfolds we get a road map of the SD punk family tree in the 80's that is a really great historical record, told in his engaging and colorful style the conversation is as compelling and entertaining as it is information dense.

    I’m glad to share this episode with you all and I’m looking forward to part two as well!

    Thank you for listening and for supporting the podcast!

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    If you can't support the pod with $ but you like it, please tell a friend.

    Music:

    Fishwife: 'Chad' (feat. Squire name drop)

    Conservative Itch: live in '86 pulled from Youtube

    TMpod theme by Jason

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  • Episode 84 is a conversation between myself, Lia Friedman and Britt Neubacher celebrating the life of artist and musician Rick Froberg.

    Lia and Britt have been friends for decades and the two were close friends of Rick’s going back to the 80’s. Britt tells us how in recent years her relationship with Rick transformed into an intimate partnership that she felt was still only beginning at the time of his untimely death. While Britt is a new friend of mine, I’ve known Lia since we were classmates at San Dieguito HS in Encinitas, California.

    The two share their memories of coming of age in the vital and influential North County San Diego punk/post-hardcore scene of the 80’s and 90’s, a scene that produced bands like Crash Worship, Heavy Vegetable, Boilermaker, powerdresser and Rick’s bands Pitchfork and Drive Like Jehu among others.

    Of course, most of the conversation focuses on celebrating the immensely talented, perpetually intellectually curious, self-educated, complicated genius that was Rick Froberg the man and the artist and musician.

    Rick Froberg Forever!

    Links:

    RickFrobergForever instagram

    Britt Neubacher's Tend Project

    Lia Friedman instagram

    Deathlesss Neverborn Podcast

    powerdresser

    Heavy Vegetable

    Boilermaker

    Music:

    Hot Snakes: Audit in Progress

    Big Boys: Red/Green

    TMpod theme by Jason

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  • Episode 83 is a conversation with prolific podcaster and veteran DC punk Brian Gathy.

    Brian is co-host of End On End, a pod that examines every Discord Records title in the order they were released, he also singlehandedly produces and hosts The Unanimous Hour dedicated to deciphering the fractal brilliance of DC band Lungfish’s catalog of songs as well as Dweller On the Threshold which explores the music of Van Morrison.

    Our conversation touches on those projects but the bulk of our talk focuses on a new podcast (my second, his FOURTH) that we discuss and name during the course of this episode. The new pod will be called Deathless Neverborn and is dedicated to exploring what might be called ‘the spiritual journey’ primarily from a Buddhist and Non-dual perspective.

    Having just met, we share how the idea for the pod came to be and we open up about some of the formative experiences that have shaped our lives and led us to want to make a pod like DN.

    So here it is dear listener, the birth of Deathless Neverborn podcast!

    Thank you SO MUCH for listening and for supporting the pod!

    Traegermethod Patreon

    Music:

    Rites of Spring 'End On End'

    Jason Traeger 'Neutralize Existence'

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  • Episode 82 is a free-form conversation with TMpod bestie Sean Kelly (Tight Bros From Way Back When bassist, Derrick Tape originator, Father etc.)

    Together we talk: Sean's pre-punk years as a Marine kid moving around, Toronto radio in the early 80's, San Diego 'Alternative' format pioneer 91X, the lives and careers of Sinead O'Connor and Pee Wee Herman, UFO/UAP disclosure, the horrors of Late-Stage Capitalism, and our mutual rediscovered love of playing music and musical gear among other subjects.

    Content warning: We also get into some talk about pain and suicide. Hopefully we handle the subject respectfully but thought I'd let you know we do talk about it.

    Thank you so much for listening!

    Show note links:

    Maui Fire Support

    Rev Left Radio Podcast

    Wildfire Project

    Blindboy Podcast

    The Intercept article

    SUPPORT THE POD: Patreon THANK YOU!!

    Music:

    91X clip from 08/01/1984

    Pee Wee Playhouse theme by Mark Mothersbaugh, Paul Reubens and George McGrath

    Closing YouTube clip by James Rundle

    TMpod theme by Jason

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  • Hello Deathless Neverborn,

    I had to toss a conversation with previous TM pod guest Don Ankrom because of some technical difficulties (aka heavy nose breathing on my part and a non-stop barking wiener dog named Enzo) so I am offering TM pod listeners a remix of that episode's introduction with some of my music thrown in for color and intrigue. It's a new twist on the podcast you love. ...you do love it right?

    Some links of people and places mentioned in the episode:

    Host of the open mic I played Johnny Franco

    Place I played the open mic: Craft Factory

    Place I played a show: Mother Foucault's Books

    Poet Dehlia Ackley

    Musician Caspar Sonnet

    TMPOD PATREON

    Music by Jason

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  • Episode 80 is a celebration of Rick Froberg's life and a celebration of life in general. I'm flying solo here, strolling down memory lane on a summer morning.

    When I started the TMpod I did so with the goal of connecting and reconnecting with old friends and sharing those conversations with whoever might want to listen. Rick was an early guest (Episode 15) because he was top of my list of people I wanted to reconnect with. I loved the guy even though we hadn't hung out in years. I always took special joy in making him laugh and we did laugh together again on that episode which felt great.

    I had Rick's name on my list of guests I wanted to have back on the pod but was waiting until the new Hot Snakes record was out to have him on again, I see now that was a mistake. Lesson learned: don't wait!

    Much love to all Rick's family, friends and fans. His memory, music and art live on in all of us who have been touched by his life and work.

    Thanks for listening and for supporting the pod!

    LINKS:

    Tour Stories Podcast tribute to Rick Froberg

    Plants of the Gods Podcast

    Snowmade

    I got the name of this shop wrong, it's not Blue Moon Music it's Moonlight Music

    William S. Burrough's Dream machine

    SUPPORT THE POD THANK YOU!

    TM pod theme by Jason

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  • TraegerMethod Pod Episode 79 celebrates the return of writer, NO IDOLS HC kingpin Tony Rettman!

    Tony has literally written the book on hardcore punk having penned three crucial books on the subject; NYHC: New York Hardcore 1980-1990 , Straight Edge and his first book Why Be Something That You’re Not: Detroit Hardcore 1979-1985. That book is about to be reissued in a new edition on June 21st through Revelation Records.Tony will have 100 signed copies with the rare green cover available through his NO IDOLS site, so be quick!

    (LINKS BELOW!)

    Before we get into the book, we talk about Tony’s life today living with multiple health concerns, the foremost of which is cancer. He shares some funny stories from the frontlines and some wisdom learned in the process of dealing with everything. I know all us TM Pod people wish him well and I’m grateful he shared his experience with us.

    I've been obsessed with The Sopranos since I started rewatching it when I had Covid. Tony and I discuss the show and and we get some insight into New Jersey culture from one who has definitely lived it. I really enjoyed talking with Tony and I know you’ll dig listening! Thank you again Tony for joining me and THANK YOU TO ALL TM POD SUPPORTERS AND LISTENERS. If you like the pod, please tell a friend.

    Music:

    Negative Approach 'Nothing'

    The Fix 'Vengeance'

    TM pod theme by Jason

    LINKS:

    BUY THE BOOK

    NO IDOLS

    Support the pod:

    PATREON

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  • As the episode title suggests Episode 78 is The Very Special ‘Jason finally got Covid 19’ Special episode of the TM pod.

    A solo thang recorded straight from my sick bed, in it I share some body sounds and assorted horror, tales of the virus, live music reviews, thoughts on my own musical journey and our entertainment saturated culture and some of my current flix pix from the streaming services. I also celebrate the lives and music of Tina Turner and Elliot Smith.

    Heretofore and furthermore I share an account of an algorithmic journey I took on YouTube that went from researching my Covid related ear-clicking condition middle ear myoclonus to exploring the culture and music of Newfoundland where I encountered the music of NF folk revivalists The Dardanelles and the much celebrated keeper of the flame of NF folk music the late Rufus Guinchard. All this by way of via Brian Johnson of AC/DC.

    It’s a hell of ride and we live, love, laugh and (almost) cry along the way. So mask up and strap in for the ride.

    Thank you SO MUCH for listening and for supporting the pod.

    If you don't currently but would like to: PATREON

    If you can't contribute but you like what I do PLEASE TELL A FRIEND about the pod.

    Much love and gratitude to you all, each and everyone.

    LINKS:

    Rufus Guinchard

    His music

    The Dardanelles

    Saloli

    Deja Bleu

    You can just look up 'middle ear myoclonus' if you want to go deeper into my ear situation.

    Music:

    Plain Wrap ‘Red Light’

    The Dardanelles: (doing a tune from a live performance on Youtube, no title was given)

    Rufus Guinchard: (also doing an unnamed tune from a short CBC news documentary from the early 80's on YouTube)

    TM pod theme REMIX by Jason

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  • Hello and welcome and HAPPY SPRING.

    Episode 77 is the return of Hutch Harris to the pod. We talk about the formation of his new band Clear Rivers with Jordan Hudson the original drummer of his beloved former band The Thermals. The band's recently released self titled LP is out now and it's a smash that listeners must check out. We also talk pretty extensively about psychedelics and the pro's and cons of altered states of mind. There's also a bit of discussion of home recording and the differences between 'lo-fi' and 'hi-fi lo-fi'

    It's great to have Hutch back on the pod, the episode is a lot of fun and I thank you very much for listening and for SUPPORTING THE POD!

    LINKS:

    Clear Rivers

    Hutch's instagram

    TraegerMethod podcast PATREON

    Music:

    Clear Rivers 'Dead Star' and 'You're Not Here'

    TMpod theme by Jason

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  • Here's a different way to do show notes.

    EPISODE 76

    Intro: Spring has arrived. Mindfulness.

    GUEST: Marc Maxey

    Bio: bass / guitar / singer Justice League, Pollen

    Art, The Killing Flame, Slothfist

    Co-owner (with Justice League bandmate Ryan Hoffman) of Quiet Panic Records

    Date/Place of our first meeting:

    Southern California Early/mid 1980’s

    Conversation notes:

    Inland Empire/Pomona punk history:

    Toxic Shock Records

    Fartblossom Records / Bob Durkee

    Straight edge hardcore history.

    Reno punk history.

    San Diego punk history.

    Los Angeles punk history

    Violence at shows.

    Tour stories.

    1980’s punk

    MUSIC

    Pollen Art 'Damn Jam'

    Justice League 'Shattered Dreams'

    TMpod theme by Jason

    LINKS

    Marc's instagram

    Quiet Panic Records

    Mindpower Records

    THANK YOU FOR LISTENING AND FOR SUPPORTING THE PODCAST!

    PATREON

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  • Hello and welcome!

    Episode 75 is a conversation with my old friend, Texas / Bay Area punk legend Gary Floyd. Possessing one of the most distinctive, soulful voices of the first wave of US hardcore punk fronting his band The Dicks Gary was always more than a singer; he was a trailblazing ‘out’ queer icon from the get-go.

    I mean just consider what it meant to be punk band in Texas called ‘The Dicks’ with a communist hammer and sickle in their logo fronted by a singer who at times looked like a down-home version of Divine singing songs about hating the police at the dawn of the Reagan era. That is hardcore. Gary was always a rebel among the rebels.

    In our conversation we talk about the dawn of The Dicks, his life before that, and his move to San Francisco where The Dicks became The SF Dicks and later morphed into Sister Double Happiness.

    If you haven’t already watched the documentary ‘The Dicks from Texas’ by Cindy Marabito I highly recommend you do so to learn more about Gary and the Austin scene he was instrumental in building at the end of the 70’s.

    Thank you all for listening and for supporting the pod!!

    Support the pod: PATREON

    Gary's Facebook

    Music:

    Butthole Surfers ‘Gary Floyd’

    The Dicks ‘Rich Daddy’

    The Dicks ‘Legacy of Man’

    Sister Double Happiness ‘Freight Train’

    The Dicks ‘Hate the Police’

    TM Pod theme by Jason

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  • It has been my great privilege to count this week’s guest low-end legend Christopher Sutton as a friend for near three decades now. Episode 74 marks his TMpod debut, the first of many appearances I hope!

    The conversation starts at the beginning, wherein we meet a young Chris in the 80’s walking down the strip mall streets of his hometown of Lacey, WA carrying his new $208 bass guitar toward home where he would begin practicing his hair metal bass shredding.

    It wasn’t until his mom insisted he and his friend Dan check out a music festival happening downtown that he had any inkling that he lived in a punk rock epicenter. All that changed the moment they stepped out of the car to check out the International Pop Underground Festival.

    It wasn’t long before he met IPU creator, K Records founder Calvin Johnson while recording with Oly ska band Engine 54 and was swept away on a musical odyssey that continues to this day and has taken him around the world beginning with Calvin’s Dub Narcotic Sounds System continuing with C.O.C.O, The Gossip, The Dirt Bombs, Chain and the Gang to name a few.

    Always a prolific musician, Chris has recently released a collection of selected solo tunes on the Antiquated Future label created between 1998 and 2019 called you brought me back from the dead. It's great listening and I urge you to seek it out either in it's cassette form or streaming on all the web places!

    Enjoy my conversation with Chris!

    LINKS:

    Antiquated Future

    Bandcamp

    SUPPORT THE POD!!! THANK YOU!!! https://www.patreon.com/traegermethod

    Music:

    Christopher Sutton 'We're So Ugly' 'Baby Ornette' and 'Love Dub'

    We also feature a short excerpt from The Transfused musical recorded live in Olympia in 2000.

    TMpod theme by Jason

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  • We’ve had run of Olympia music history episodes on the pod but with this one we’re heading south on i-5 and sprinkling in some stand-up comedy history.

    Episode 73 is a conversation with my good friend, stand-up comic and 90’s/00’s Portland punk Gabe Dinger.

    Now based in Los Angeles, Gabe and I met in 2011 when we were both working the stand-up stages of Portland. Gabe was one of my favorite established comics on the scene and after becoming friends we bonded further on our shared punk history.

    He tells us about his preteen punk awakening in the Nu metal era. After being informed by a skater friend that there was more to punk than Green Day he followed the breadcrumbs left by bands like 7 Seconds and the DK’s to discover a vital current Portland scene centered around all ages Stage Four club and his high school punk band (and Recess Records' artists) Berserk.

    From there we explore Gabe’s bio as a stand-up comic and the history of the Portland comedy scene that has helped develop many well known comics of today like Shane Torres, Ian Karmel, Amy Miller (TMpod ep. 31), and Gabe's tourmate and bestie Ron Funches to name but a few.

    Thanks for listening and for supporting the pod. Enjoy!

    Gabe's Instagram

    SUPPORT THE POD THANK YOU!

    Also mentioned:

    Recess Records 

    SMEGMA Dives First into Punk Rock 1978/79 CD

    Christopher Sutton 'You Brought Me Back From the Dead Cassette

    Music:

    Berserk: 'Traitor' and 'Die Questy Scum'

    Theme by Jason

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  • So good to have Pete back on the pod.

    This episode Pete Chramiec and I stretch the very definition of what a podcast can be. For instance, together we prove that a podcast CAN consist of two late-middle age men looking through some old stickers and flyers in real time.

    We also demonstrate that if you space out a guest’s appearances it really doesn’t matter if we tell the same stories we’ve already talked about. Podcasting is a very intimate medium, I hope my voice feels like the voice of a friend even if we’ve never met. One thing I know about friendships, especially long term friendships: we tell and listen to the same stories a lot. So consider this episode a relaxed chill sesh with your friends Jason and Pete.

    We do cover some new territory: we talk about the Unwound shows we recently caught, Pete tells us about the last couple Verbal Assault tours they did and I talk about the power of mindfulness when dealing with mood disorders. It’s a cool episode and I’m proud of it, so there!

    Music:

    Verbal Assault

    ‘Vicious Hippie’

    ‘Dead Society’

    TM Theme by Jason

    Support the Pod: PATREON (THANK YOU!)

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  • It was a real thrill talking with Seattle punk/hardcore/thrash LEGEND Blaine Cook for episode 71.

    As a kid coming of age in the pre-Grunge Seattle punk scene of the early 80’s, for me and my friends The Fartz set the standard of what it meant to be a hardcore band. Their name sometimes drew snickers from the uninitiated but the intensity of their live shows and recordings, which owed everything to Blaine’s guttural sandpaper delivery, immediately dispelled any idea that this was some kind of novelty punk act. They were as hardcore as it gets.

    In our conversation Blaine and I talk Seattle music (and skateboarding) history, and we chronicle his four decade career fronting and snarling with The Fartz, proto-grunge pioneers 10 Minute Warning, crossover/punk/thrash mainstays The Accused and Toe Tag up to his work today with The Accused AD. He is the epitome of an uncompromising punk rock n roll survivor.

    I’m so happy to be able to share this conversation with Blaine Cook.

    Links:

    Blaine Cook:

    Instagram

    The Accused AD

    Support the pod:

    PATREON

    Music:

    The Fartz “You Got a Brain”

    The Accused “Martha Splatterhead”

    TM pod theme by Jason

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  • Episode 70 is a SOLO MINI-SODE.

    I've decided that here in season/year three of the podcast I am going to release an interview episode and a solo episode alternating weekly.

    If you subscribe and support the pod because you love the conversations I have with musicians, artists and friends NOTHING IS CHANGING you will still get an episode like that every other week, just like you've been getting. The difference is now you will ALSO be getting another episode in-between those ones.

    These solo episodes will be more free-form in nature, they’ll likely be of a shorter duration and will be whatever I want them to be; funny, philosophical, musical, meditative, self-help etc.

    This week’s episode I talk about overcoming resistance to doing things you know are good for you, I share some funny stories and I talk about how much I enjoyed seeing The Mona Reels live in Portland.

    Thank you so much for listening and supporting the pod!

    PATREON

    The Mona Reels

    Music:

    The Mona Reels live in Portland at Dante’s 01/11/23

    Background ambient:

    Fluidscape by Kevin MacLeod | https://incompetech.com/

    Music promoted by https://www.chosic.com/free-music/all/

    Creative Commons CC BY 3.0

    https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/

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  • Episode 69 (...grow up) is a conversation with low-end god and Oly punk legend, Jared Warren. Jared has kept it heavy since high school where he met his KARP bandmates, the late Scott Jernigan and guitarist Chris Smith.

    From those beginnings he has gone on to front and play in several legendary combos, The Tight Bros From Way Back When, The Whip, and his current and most enduring job fronting and playing bass in his Big Business , his mega-duo with drummer Cody Willis. Big Business joined forces for many years with The Melvins and did the seemingly impossible: made the legends of heavy even heavier.

    Today he is looking forward to playing bass on the upcoming Unwound tour where he will stand in the spot where the late Vern Rumsey once stood. Jared tell us about his relationship with him, one that stretches back even before high school when he first met 'The Straw Haired Boy' at their mom’s Tupperware party as children.

    CONTENT WARNING:

    We also share some darkly funny stories of our time working together in Olympia with a developmentally disabled population some of whom were formerly institutionalized sex offenders. We don’t get into anything graphic but thought I should still mention it.

    We also share even more harrowing stories of the time we started doing stand-up comedy in Seattle in the very late 90’s/ early 2000’s.

    Please enjoy my conversation with Jared Warren!

    support the pod: Patreon thank you!

    Music: Karp ‘Bacon Industry’

    Big Business ’No Vowels’

    short excerpt at break: Silly Killers ‘Knife Manual’

    TM theme by Jason

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