Episodes

  • In this podcast, Patti Phillips share an engaging conversation with the director of athletics at Gannon University, Lisa Goddard McGuirk.

    Lisa’s experience highlights the power of a growth mindset on a career path—including a not-quite linear one. She is a firm believer in figuring things out, and says there is always a solution to everything.

    Raised on a farm, where helping with chores was imperative—and in a family and community that wholeheartedly supported her love of sports—Lisa learned about being resourceful and believing in herself. That drive has sustained her through an inspiring career spanning coaching, teaching, and being an athletic director at three institutions, with stints in all three NCAA divisions.

    Lisa humbly shares how she vaulted from coaching to the athletic director's chair—despite never having previously held a position in administration. She emphasizes the importance of transferable skills, a willingness to see various perspectives, and a collaborative work style. She shares that being able to communicate about skills and passion in the interview process can ensure advancement. Lisa also touches on finding an institution that is the right fit and balancing life as a parent, both key elements in her continued success.

    Don’t miss a moment of this conversation! And remember - we are Women Leaders!

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  • In this podcast, Patti Phillips shares an inspiring conversation with the Director of Athletics at Mississippi Valley State University, Dianthia Ford-Kee. Dianthia’s energy and zest for life is undeniable. Those qualities, she says, stem from humble beginnings. Growing up playing backyard basketball and softball games with family, she never imagined that her love of those sports would lead to being a dual-sport collegiate athlete, 6-time conference champion Head Coach, AND a Director of Athletics. Her passion for helping others and mentoring young people is palpable, and truly inspiring. The fact that a former colleague became a president and then came calling for her reminds us that we are always interviewing for the next job through our performance every day. And just as important, she never shied away from making a connection or taking the next opportunity when it came knocking. In our conversation, Dianthia opens up about her experience working in all 3 NCAA Divisions, why she has chosen to only work at HBCU’s and what her experience was like being the only female administrator in her department for many years. We also talk about her experience taking the initiative needed for department evolution and how being intentional about lifelong learning positions you for impact. Don’t miss a moment of this conversation! And remember - we are Women Leaders! Head to womenleadersincollegesports.org for more about us and to become a member! Follow us at fb.com/WomenLeadersCS, and on Twitter and Instagram @WomenLeadersCS.

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  • In this podcast, Patti Phillips shares an insightful conversation with the Commissioner of the Patriot League, Jennifer Heppel.

    Jen’s pathway to the Commissioner chair not only included extensive NCAA office and committee work, campus and conference office experience, but also what she calls “becoming an accidental student-athlete.” A long-time competitive figure skater turned collegiate ice hockey player, Jen translated her love for the sport and tireless discipline into a long career of leading and impacting the student-athlete experience.

    In our conversation, Jen opens up about her two stints working at the BIG Ten Conference Office – totaling 12 years, including why she left and why she agreed to go back,

    We also talk about her belief in why diversity of thought and experience is critical to effective team building and why it should be top of mind in hiring decisions while building your own staff and team culture. Plus, Jen shares best practices for using your voice at the national level, understanding governance structures, and why it’s never too late to get involved!

    Don’t miss a moment of this conversation! And remember - we are Women Leaders!

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  • In this podcast, Patti Phillips shares a great conversation with the Deputy Director of Athletics at Rutgers University and current Women Leaders Board Member, Sarah Baumgartner.

    Sarah’s impact at Rutgers has not only elevated the institution to competition at the highest level in the BIG10 Conference, but inspired women across the country to pursue a career in development. She is no stranger to bold leadership and has trailblazed record-breaking multi-million dollar fundraising efforts for capital projects at Rutgers in the last 4 years.

    There is no better advocate for working in external relations than Sarah, as she has her hands full with oversight of the majority of extrinsic touch points for athletics. Her philosophy on relationship building and developing skill sets are just some of the many reasons that she has succeeded in her role. But much of what has prepared her for her current role began when she was handed Men’s Basketball as her FIRST sport supervisory role at Mizzou Athletics, and she hasn’t looked back since!

    In our conversation, Sarah opens up how hiring 13 head coaches in 4 years has taught her about the value of surrounding yourself with good people, why flashy resumes don’t always get you the job and how remaining present in her work and life helps her to be the best in every moment, no matter where she is.

    We also talk about why you should always raise your hand if you are interested in taking on new responsibilities, how being a working mom allows her kids to see the very best of her and why collaboration and empowerment allows her to see projects through with excellence and efficiency.

    As Sarah says, “If you can bring great attitude and great energy to anything, you can lift the world.” Don’t miss a moment of this conversation! And remember - we are Women Leaders!

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  • In today’s podcast, Patti Phillips shares a great conversation with the Senior Director of Athletics at Auburn University at Montgomery, Jessie Rosa.

    Jessie’s childhood dream was to be the athletics director at AUM and today, she is not only living that dream - but also inspiring the next generation to follow their own dreams. Like many, her journey to the chair did not come without hearing a few “no’s” first and engaging in some crucial conversations with herself and others.

    A former dual-sport student-athlete at AUM, Jessie was dismissed from the basketball team during her freshman year. Despite this often being a taboo topic in athletics, she shares openly about how that experience transformed her philosophy about providing others second chances and why, “it’s your responsibility as the leader to set the tone.”

    In our conversation, Jessie opens up about how she used her institutional knowledge as a selling factor in securing her full-time role as AD and how the process of removing the “Interim” tag from her title at AUM influenced the ways she looks at hiring her own staff.

    We also talk about how transparency and communication are the most critical components of leadership, why evaluating a candidate’s career trajectory during the interview process matters more than wins and losses and why it’s important for women to “stop considering it and just do it” for aspiring moms in athletics.

    Don’t miss a moment of this conversation and remember - we are Women Leaders!

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  • In this podcast, Patti Phillips shares a great conversation with the Director of Athletics at Knox College, Daniella Irle.

    Her highly decorated 20-year head coaching career in Division I Swimming and Diving, paired with a masterful 15-year administrative career, has made Daniella a force in this industry and beyond. She is no stranger to defying the odds and when we say resilience changes lives, there is no better example of this than her.

    Leaning into self-awareness and committing to personal growth has been the story of Daniella’s advancement and prompted a critical pivot in her career to working in Division III athletics - a decision she’s made and never looked back.

    In our conversation, Daniella opens up about her experience working in athletics during the wake of Hurricane Katrina and how it became the catalyst for her transition from coaching to administration. The skills that she had already spent so many years refining in her coaching career, she says, were immediately transferable and “translate at any level of leadership.”

    We also talk about shifting your mindset as a decision-maker when becoming an AD, why perfection isn’t everything, how the biggest difference in each division is simply the decimal point on your budget.

    As Daniella says, “It’s always time to be aspiring.” Don’t miss a moment of this conversation! We hope you enjoy our conversation, and remember, we are Women Leaders!

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  • In this podcast, Patti Phillips shares the highly anticipated conversation with the commissioner of the WNBA, Cathy Engelbert.

    Cathy is an innovative and people-first leader who has made an immediate impact on the WNBA in her first 18-months as Commissioner. Cathy is no stranger to leading through crisis and navigating challenges -as she spent 33 years at Deloitte, including 4 years as CEO.

    During this conversation, Cathy shares how important it is to do small things of symbolic value to build trust as a new leader. In fact, it was the trust that Cathy intentionally built from day one as Commissioner that allowed her to quickly and successfully negotiate a groundbreaking Collective Bargaining Agreement; and then execute an entire WNBA season in the “wubble”.

    Cathy dives into the wubble life, and also talk about how WNBA plyers used their platform to drive social justice issues during a time when our country was plagued by racial unrest. And of course, we can’t talk to Cathy without discussing the orange hoodie movement – a marketing strategy that became a symbol of more than just women’s basketball!

    Cathy is a woman who ascended to the highest levels of leadership – but she never chased a title or position - she instead aspired to LEAD. I think that’s such an important point for us to remember. Not everyone can be a CEO, she says, but everyone can be a leader! Cathy and Patti discuss all of this and SO MUCH more in this passion-packed conversation – you don’t want to it miss!

    We hope you enjoy our conversation, and remember, we are Women Leaders!

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  • Welcome to the 100TH EPISODE of the Women Leaders Podcast!

    Since 2017, powerhouse women from all corners of the collegiate athletics industry and beyond have shared their career and leadership journey with us on the Women Leaders Podcast. With over 122,000 all-time downloads in just four years and an average of 4,000 downloads per month, these conversations have provided timely and impactful insights to our listeners by covering relevant and relatable topics for women leaders at all levels - (like being THE FIRST or THE ONLY, managing up, navigating transitions, being a mom in athletics, building and sustaining organizational culture, and so much more).

    Today, for our 100th podcast episode we are talking with the 2021 Women Leaders Executive Committee: Sandy Barbour, Vice President for Intercollegiate Athletics at the Pennsylvania State University, Heather Lyke, Director of Athletics at the University of Pittsburgh and Jacqie McWilliams, Commissioner of the Central Intercollegiate Athletic Association (CIAA).

    All three of these women leaders have shared their personal career story as a previous guest on the Women Leaders podcast - for the 100th episode they are back and here to engage in a different conversation.

    These three will be YOUR truth tellers for all things career advancement- sharing their personal learnings, observations and best advice on career strategy so that you can position yourself for the job you want and advance into higher levels of leadership. Listen in to hear what Heather Lyke sees at the “greatest gift” you can bring to your athletics department, Sandy Barbour tells us why she hires who she hires and Jacqie McWilliams talks about the critical skills of managing up AND down to lead at the highest level.

    And most importantly - all three leaders tell us why women should be opting in, NOT out right now in our industry and how to own and elevate your leadership presence!

    Watch or listen in to get a front row seat of my conversation with three of the best women leaders in the business! Yes, that’s right - you can WATCH the 100th podcast! We’ve recorded the video and posted it to the Leadership Hub video library so you can get a behind the scenes look at the Women Leaders Podcast. Be sure to check it out and remember, we are women leaders!

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  • In this podcast, Patti Phillips is joined by Valerie Cleary, director of athletics at Portland State University

    Val has somewhat of an underdog story that reminds young women that a career in sports is possible! A small, farm town girl from Northern California who never aspired to be an athletic director - Val used her undergrad experiences as a tour guide, orientation leader and sorority sister to find her passion for higher education, which led to a Masters in Counseling and Student Development, a degree she uses every single day.

    While Val has spent many years in higher education, she was only in athletics for 1 year before being asked to serve as the interim AD, which says a lot about her skillset and leadership abilities. She has since been hired into two different athletic director roles and is thriving.

    Find out she created her own “search firm” for hiring new coaches, developed her philosophy around what “fit” for a department really means, and how she makes sure everyone working under her has a voice in the process. Val also talks about how GIRL POWER is important in her life thanks to the “Big Sky (Conference) Strong Squad,” and why leading by example is so important- especially as we continue to care for our mental health in times of uncertainty.

    Managing up in athletics, she shares, is crucial to success - and Val is no stranger to this skill as she has navigated not one, but THREE presidential transitions in just three years. Being a quiet observer, communicating goals, learning your supervisor’s learning style and getting to know your boss’s support team are some of the tricks she has learned along the way. There are nuances to her style, though, that are brilliant.

    We hope you enjoy our conversation, and remember, we are Women Leaders!

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  • In this podcast, Patti Phillips is joined by CEO and Founder of Brave Enterprises, a great friend of Women Leaders and former convention keynote, Crista Samaras

    Crista is a coach, entrepreneur, and power-packed, energetic pep talk master who has coached thousands of people to feel great about themselves and to accomplish things they never thought possible,

    And while her energy is infectious and not to be forgotten,, she is a brilliant teacher, practitioner, and believer in research and stats. There is endless substance behind her inspiring message., that will make you feel ready to CRUSH IT.

    Crista’s career journey is one of discovery, bold passion and relentless curiosity about this thing called life. She grew up in a family of 6 fellow lacrosse athletes who all competed at the collegiate level, and she talks openly about how her struggles as a Princeton student-athlete taught her the true definition of grit and why it is important to “know your controllables.”

    Both of these learnings now serve as core components of the curriculum she has created for Brave Enterprises, which mentors and molds leaders of all ages to BRAVE their FEAR.

    In our discussion, Crista bravely opens up about living with depression and the ways she manages it, like building her “circle of trust team” and coaching them on how to communicate with her when she is depressed. What Crista shares here is the kind of vulnerability and transparency that changes lives. She reminds us that sharing our experiences allows us to better support one another.

    Crista also talks about the difference between being BRAVE, and being fearless. And she shares some tools on how to do that, like understanding Motivation, Method, and Mindset, and remembering the BRAVE sandwich, which includes Purpose, Bravery, and Curiosity. She also gives tips on navigating uncertain times which includes understanding the difference between facts and feelings. Simple, but so very powerful!

    We hope you enjoy our conversation, and remember, we are Women Leaders!

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  • In this podcast, Patti Philips is joined by Director of Athletics at Montana State University-Billings, Krista Montague.

    The first female athletic director at MSU-Billings AND at a NCAA institution in the state of Montana, Krista has spent her entire career in athletics supporting and pouring her heart into the community that helped to shape her. We talk about how the journey from staff, to interim AD, to Athletic Director has contributed to her now 22-year career at MSU-Billings.

    I love this story about Krista’s early introduction to sports – which came when she was able to shadow her grandfather, who chose to coach girls basketball at a time when girls and women were just beginning to have the opportunity to play. Her time at practices, on the bench, and on the bus really shaped her love of the sport, and she went on to earn a scholarship to play at MSU-Billings – and by the way, her daughter plays there now as well!

    In our conversation, Krista shares her thoughts about how women feel pressured to choose between career and family, but explains that it is possible to have both!

    We also talked about her leadership philosophy, which includes the importance of being a good listener, meeting people where they are, and setting expectations but then getting out of the way and letting people do their work.

    There lots of great insights here! I hope you enjoy our conversation and remember; we are Women Leaders!

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  • In this podcast, Patti Phillips is joined by Assistant Vice President and Director of Athletics at Saint Francis Brooklyn College, Irma Garcia.

    With a breadth of knowledge in many areas across this industry, her heart for using them all to better the lives of others is what makes Irma a true Woman Leader! Starting as the Head Women’s Basketball Coach and now the Athletic Director, she has used every moment of her 32-year career at her alma mater to uplift and inspire.

    The first Hispanic female to step into the Athletic Director chair at the NCAA Division I level, she says the resiliency of her Brooklyn roots inspired her to pursue her passion for playing basketball and use her voice to better the college athletics industry. Irma’s philosophy on molding student-athletes into impactful world citizens has guided her through stops at every level of coaching and administration. Teaching has always been her first love, but she believes a good teacher always becomes the student.

    That mindset, she says, has helped her to become a more versatile leader through the dual-pandemic our country has faced in 2020. She reminds us that education is the key to addressing social injustices in our communities and shares how life-long learning has impacted her approach to addressing this on her campus.

    In our conversation, Irma talks about how she leads her team with passion, love and smiles! She shares what it means to be “Brooklyn Tough”, how Women Helping Other Women (WHOW) has molded her experience as an Athletic Director, and why family values play a role in her journey. She also teaches us how to incorporate “no, but” into your vocabulary and tips for learning to “Move the Room and move Zoom.”

    We hope you enjoy our conversation, and remember, we are Women Leaders!

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  • Hello, and welcome to the Women Leaders podcast! I’m Patti Phillips, CEO of Women Leaders in College Sports. Today, I am excited to be joined by current Women Leaders Board member and the Executive Director of the Centennial Conference, Portia Hoeg.

    Portia has a broad experience in the world of collegiate athletics, that includes an all-star student-athlete experience, an internship at the WBCA, administration stops at 5 different colleges, almost 8 years in the AD chair, and now a year and a half as a commissioner. And throughout every step of her career, she has been a steadfast advocate for collegiate athletics at the NCAA Division III level.

    In our conversation, Portia talks about discerning great opportunities, the current realities of the ethnic minority population in Division III, using her voice during the health and racial pandemics that our nation faces, and what it has meant to her to be the first African American woman to ascend to the Commissioner role at the DIII level in any conference.

    Portia also shares best practices for how she uses her calendar to her advantage for integrating her life as mom, wife and leader, and how she and her husband, who also serves as a coach and administrator in this industry, manage it all.

    Lots to unpack here! I hope you enjoy our conversation, and remember, we are Women Leaders!

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  • In this podcast, Patti Phillips is joined by the Director of Athletics at Palm Beach Atlantic University, Courtney Lovely Evans.

    Courtney has ascended to the AD chair quickly, although this was not necessarily her goal in college. It was actually the opportunity to work for two female leaders at Georgia State that opened her eyes to collegiate administration.

    In our conversation Courtney talks about the 3 types of decisions we are all faced with, her ideas on hiring to weaknesses, having a fearless approach to “friendraising,” and the value of a personal board of directors, especially while making choices in transition.

    She shares about how her stops at Georgia State University and the NCAA National Office fueled her passion for positively affecting the student-athlete experience, and credits those positions with forming her use of storytelling and relationship building to advocate for her student-athletes.

    Finally, Courtney also opens up about how “being the only” was part of her journey to becoming the first minority administrator at Palm Beach Atlantic named to both the university’s cabinet and the athletic director chair. Her philosophy on “leading with love,” she says, has not only been her guiding force in leading her department through the racial and medical pandemics in our nation, but also in her approach to engaging in conversations daily on her campus and in the athletics space.

    Lots to love here. I hope you enjoy our conversation, and remember, we are Women Leaders!

  • In this podcast, Patti Phillips is joined by a true trailblazer, Dr. Candice Storey Lee, the Vice Chancellor for Athletics & University Affairs and Athletics Director at Vanderbilt University.

    Candice’s’ appointment is historic as Vanderbilt’s first female athletic director AND the first African American woman to lead an athletics program in the SEC. We talk and how she has handled that, AND the COVID and racial pandemics that hit our country shortly after she started her role.

    In fact, We dive into the experience of “racial battle fatigue” and how campus culture shapes student-athlete experiences today!

    Her values of service and duty have allowed her to flourish through many periods of transition. Growing up in a military family, Candice attended 14 schools before beginning her now 25 year career at Vanderbilt; a career that includes two additional higher ed degrees and various leadership roles within the athletic department that she now leads.

    Candice had a successful college basketball career in the SEC, and she talks about how she discovered her talent for building a team and harnessing the discipline needed to accomplish her goals through the sport.

    We also discuss how relationships built on integrity and trust have been the difference makers in her career, There are so many insights here.

    We hope you enjoy our conversation, and remember, we are Women Leaders!

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  • In this podcast, Patti Phillips is joined by Mollie Marcoux Samaan, the Ford Family Director of Athletics at Princeton University.

    Mollie’s journey to the AD chair is a unique one, having never worked in college athletics prior to accepting the role at Princeton. We hear this a lot on the men’s side, but not as much with women.

    Mollie did start her career at a boarding school where she held many jobs, including coaching the girls ice hockey and soccer teams.

    But she soon landed an entry level job at Chelsea Piers and began a 19-year run there that saw her elevated into several different leadership roles, including Exec VP of Chelsea Piers Connecticut. Mollie said her experience there, which included work in events, fundraising, marketing and business operations to name a few, more than prepared her to lead at Princeton. And not so much because of the work she was doing, but because she was constantly challenged to learn new skills in new areas, which forced her to continue to cultivate a strong growth mindset!

    In this conversation, Mollie gives great tips on hiring coaches -she’s had 14 successful hires in her tenure- and again, had not worked on a college campus previously,” , , and we discuss leading in times of crisis. Princeton was one of the first schools to cancel competitions when Covid hit, and she talks through that communication process, She also talks about the “MYTH of stress” - which also happens to be the title of one of her favorite books.

    She shares a TON of great advice here, like “play life like you play sports” which includes picking your teams wisely. Amen!

    We hope you enjoy our conversation, and remember, we are Women Leaders!

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  • In this podcast, Patti Phillips is joined by Michelle Morgan, Senior Director of Athletics and Recreation at John Carroll University.

    Michelle’s mission in life is to “make a mark on the world with a skate on one foot and a black pump on the other” and there is no doubt this mission is evidenced in her reality.
    Michelle grew up as an ice hockey student-athlete and used her love of the sport to propel her career. She was the first female awarded a scholarship from the Chicago Blackhawk association, at age 18, which presented further opportunities for her to work with both the NHL and NFL. But her transition to college athletics came unexpectedly, when she helped write a ‘Director of Marketing’ job description for her alma mater and decided to apply in the process.

    In our conversation, Michelle talks about the importance of developing a solid network and skills relevant to our industry; which for her, included participation in the 2016 Women Leaders Institute for Administrative Advancement.

    She also discusses the realities of relocating for a job and its impact on your personal and professional life. For Michelle, self-care includes never leaving vacation days unused and she expresses the importance of this as a leader and the opportunity it creates for your support staff.

    We also talk about transparency, accountability and consistency as critical qualities of an effective leader. There is so much to unpack in this discussion!

    We hope you enjoy our conversation, and remember, we are Women Leaders!

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  • In this podcast, Patti Phillips is joined by Jenn Strawley, Deputy Director of Athletics, Chief Operating Officer and Senior Woman Administrator at the University of Miami.

    Jenn started her career as an NCAA intern back when it was located in KANSAS CITY, which is where our paths first crossed, and then spent 3 years in administration at Columbia before returning to the NCAA.

    It is Jenn’s passion for working directly with student-athletes that led her to her current position at the University of Miami in 2012, where she capitalized on a great opportunity in a changing, and at the time, challenging environment.

    In our conversation, Jenn talks about her role overseeing football at a Power 5 institution, and she provides realistic advice for women looking to get into football oversight – I’ll give you a hint – who you work for matters.

    She also talks about her passion around building a culture of support for women’s athletics at Miami! And we of course touch on leading during a crisis. Jenn has been in the unique position to lead through both Hurricane Irma and the COVID-19 pandemic. She has great insights and emphasizes the importance of patience and listening!

    We hope you enjoy our conversation, and remember, we are Women Leaders!

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  • In this podcast, Patti Phillips is joined by Nevin Caple, Principal Consultant and Founder of Return of Inclusion.

    As a student-athlete at Fairleigh Dickinson University, Nevin’s experience helped her explore pieces of herself she had yet to discover. She used this background in sport to start not one, but THREE, companies and become a national thought leader on diversity, inclusion and belonging in athletics.

    Through her latest endeavor, Return on Inclusion, Nevin focuses on educating administrators and coaches and teaching them to navigate difficult conversations within their departments and with their student-athletes.

    In our conversation, we go deeper into several of Nevin’s six ROI modules including covering, anti-racism, and privilege. She emphasizes the importance of making education a strategic priority within athletics and encouraging staff to have the courage to speak up, ask for help and allow themselves to be vulnerable.

    We also talk about leading during the ongoing pandemic and global reckoning happening surrounding the Black Lives Matter movement. Nevin talks about how change starts with ourselves and stresses that it is never too late to become better.

    We hope you enjoy our conversation, and remember, we are Women Leaders!

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  • In this podcast, Patti Phillips is joined by Terry Gawlik, Director of Athletics at the University of Idaho.

    Terry has had an impressive career as both a coach and administrator, including being the FIRST female to sit in the AD chair at the University of Idaho.

    Her 13 years of coaching 4 sports and literally doing it all, greatly influenced her time as an administrator at Wisconsin, where she spent 25 years, including 14 as a SWA. She then took on the role of a lifetime and became the AD at Idaho less than a year ago, and only 7 months before our country, and sports, were halted by the pandemic.

    In our conversation, Terry talks about the pivot from coaching to administration and the importance of utilizing a “Trust Tree” when making these decisions. We also talk about what leadership traits she had to rely on more when she became the AD, including listening, and she stresses the importance of aligning yourself with key people and thought partners in times of crisis. Great advice there!

    I hope you enjoy our conversation, and remember, we are Women Leaders!