Episodes
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Marsh, Klump, and Bishop of Terrible Wrestling Takes Podcast breakdown the end of RAW, Nattie Neidhart is amazing, the Seth and Jinder match's horrible finish, how CM Punk is being used, and much more!
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Marsh, Klump, and Bishop ( @TWTakes Podcast ) discuss this past week in WWE.. Recorded January 17, 2024
Just a couple of friends having drinks and talking wrestling. We review WWE and AEW. As well as go over what's happening in the wrestling news. We don't pretend to have inside knowledge and we still seem to guess whats happening next with about the same accuracy as everyone who claims they do. So tune in and tip your glass with us as we cover what we like, what we don't, and how we see things from the outside looking in! If you’ve got no one to talk wrestling with then be we will be your Drinking Buddies!
Twitter for hosts @RefMarsh @Kevlarontherox @CrybabyKlump @AmandaJayne @Beard_Sports @ShakesNYG
Twitch.tv/wrestlingontherocks for live streams every Wednesday and Thursday where you can join the chat and be apart of the show!
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Welcome to the Dive bar of the IWC! Come have a drink with your Drinking Buddies!
Marsh, Klump, and Bishop of Terrible Wrestling Takes Podcast breakdown RAW, Drew knocked it out of the park again, Xavier Woods, the status of Judgement Day and R Truth, Becky Lynch and much more!
A broadcast of Fans First Sports Network - Cheers!
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Marsh, Klump, and Bishop ( @TWTakes Podcast ) discuss this past week in WWE.. Recorded January 17, 2024
Just a couple of friends having drinks and talking wrestling. We review WWE and AEW. As well as go over what's happening in the wrestling news. We don't pretend to have inside knowledge and we still seem to guess whats happening next with about the same accuracy as everyone who claims they do. So tune in and tip your glass with us as we cover what we like, what we don't, and how we see things from the outside looking in! If you’ve got no one to talk wrestling with then be we will be your Drinking Buddies!
Twitter for hosts @RefMarsh @Kevlarontherox @CrybabyKlump @AmandaJayne @Beard_Sports @ShakesNYG
Twitch.tv/wrestlingontherocks for live streams every Wednesday and Thursday where you can join the chat and be apart of the show!
www.wrestlingontherocks.com/shop to support!
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Welcome to the Dive bar of the IWC! Come have a drink with your Drinking Buddies!
Marsh, Klump, and Bishop of Terrible Wrestling Takes Podcast talk about people around Hulk Hogan saving lives, Waller protecting the business, and much more!
A broadcast of Fans First Sports Network - Cheers!
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Marsh, Klump, and Bishop ( @TWTakes Podcast ) discuss this past week in WWE.. Recorded January 17, 2024
Just a couple of friends having drinks and talking wrestling. We review WWE and AEW. As well as go over what's happening in the wrestling news. We don't pretend to have inside knowledge and we still seem to guess whats happening next with about the same accuracy as everyone who claims they do. So tune in and tip your glass with us as we cover what we like, what we don't, and how we see things from the outside looking in! If you’ve got no one to talk wrestling with then be we will be your Drinking Buddies!
Twitter for hosts @RefMarsh @Kevlarontherox @CrybabyKlump @AmandaJayne @Beard_Sports @ShakesNYG
Twitch.tv/wrestlingontherocks for live streams every Wednesday and Thursday where you can join the chat and be apart of the show!
www.wrestlingontherocks.com/shop to support!
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Welcome to the Dive bar of the IWC! Come have a drink with your Drinking Buddies!
Marsh, Klump, and Bishop of Terrible Wrestling Takes Podcast talk about the recent incident Kayla Braxton endured and the horrible representatives who get spotlights on fan podcasts.
A broadcast of Fans First Sports Network - Cheers!
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Marsh, Klump, and Bishop ( @TWTakes Podcast ) discuss this past week in WWE.. Recorded January 17, 2024
Just a couple of friends having drinks and talking wrestling. We review WWE and AEW. As well as go over what's happening in the wrestling news. We don't pretend to have inside knowledge and we still seem to guess whats happening next with about the same accuracy as everyone who claims they do. So tune in and tip your glass with us as we cover what we like, what we don't, and how we see things from the outside looking in! If you’ve got no one to talk wrestling with then be we will be your Drinking Buddies!
Twitter for hosts @RefMarsh @Kevlarontherox @CrybabyKlump @AmandaJayne @Beard_Sports @ShakesNYG
Twitch.tv/wrestlingontherocks for live streams every Wednesday and Thursday where you can join the chat and be apart of the show!
www.wrestlingontherocks.com/shop to support!
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Welcome to the Dive bar of the IWC! Come have a drink with your Drinking Buddies!
Marsh, Klump, and Bishop of Terrible Wrestling Takes Podcast breakdown Smackdown, will Nick Aldis wrestle in WWE, Karrion Kross, Bayley telling the damn stories, and much more!
A broadcast of Fans First Sports Network - Cheers!
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Marsh, Klump, and Bishop ( @TWTakes Podcast ) discuss this past week in WWE.. Recorded January 17, 2024
Just a couple of friends having drinks and talking wrestling. We review WWE and AEW. As well as go over what's happening in the wrestling news. We don't pretend to have inside knowledge and we still seem to guess whats happening next with about the same accuracy as everyone who claims they do. So tune in and tip your glass with us as we cover what we like, what we don't, and how we see things from the outside looking in! If you’ve got no one to talk wrestling with then be we will be your Drinking Buddies!
Twitter for hosts @RefMarsh @Kevlarontherox @CrybabyKlump @AmandaJayne @Beard_Sports @ShakesNYG
Twitch.tv/wrestlingontherocks for live streams every Wednesday and Thursday where you can join the chat and be apart of the show!
www.wrestlingontherocks.com/shop to support!
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Welcome to the Dive bar of the IWC! Come have a drink with your Drinking Buddies!
Marsh, Klump, and Bishop of Terrible Wrestling Takes Podcast talk about RAW! What's Gargano's effect on who he works with, Judgement Day plus R-Truth equals HA HA? How should Matt Cardona be portrayed in a return to WWE, Seth, Cody, what tag team could the Young Bucks learn a lot from, and much more!
A broadcast of Fans First Sports Network - Cheers!
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Marsh, Klump, and Bishop ( @TWTakes Podcast ) discuss this past week in WWE.. Recorded January 10, 2024
Just a couple of friends having drinks and talking wrestling. We review WWE and AEW. As well as go over what's happening in the wrestling news. We don't pretend to have inside knowledge and we still seem to guess whats happening next with about the same accuracy as everyone who claims they do. So tune in and tip your glass with us as we cover what we like, what we don't, and how we see things from the outside looking in! If you’ve got no one to talk wrestling with then be we will be your Drinking Buddies!
Twitter for hosts @RefMarsh @Kevlarontherox @CrybabyKlump @AmandaJayne @Beard_Sports @ShakesNYG
Twitch.tv/wrestlingontherocks for live streams every Wednesday and Thursday where you can join the chat and be apart of the show!
www.wrestlingontherocks.com/shop to support!
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Welcome to the Dive bar of the IWC! Come have a drink with your Drinking Buddies!
Marsh and Bishop of Terrible Wrestling Takes Podcast talk about Tony Khan's latest meltdown and how great Jinder is.
A broadcast of Fans First Sports Network - Cheers!
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Marsh and Bishop ( @TWTakes Podcast ) discuss this past week in WWE.. Recorded January 10, 2024
Just a couple of friends having drinks and talking wrestling. We review WWE and AEW. As well as go over what's happening in the wrestling news. We don't pretend to have inside knowledge and we still seem to guess whats happening next with about the same accuracy as everyone who claims they do. So tune in and tip your glass with us as we cover what we like, what we don't, and how we see things from the outside looking in! If you’ve got no one to talk wrestling with then be we will be your Drinking Buddies!
Twitter for hosts @RefMarsh @Kevlarontherox @CrybabyKlump @AmandaJayne @Beard_Sports @ShakesNYG
Twitch.tv/wrestlingontherocks for live streams every Wednesday and Thursday where you can join the chat and be apart of the show!
www.wrestlingontherocks.com/shop to support!
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Welcome to the Dive bar of the IWC! Come have a drink with your Drinking Buddies!
Marsh, Klump, and Bishop of Terrible Wrestling Takes Podcast breakdown the highlights for Smackdown, the triple threat, LWO, Kross's new faction, and much more!
A broadcast of Fans First Sports Network - Cheers!
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Marsh and Bishop ( @TWTakes Podcast ) discuss this past week in WWE.. Recorded January 10, 2024
Just a couple of friends having drinks and talking wrestling. We review WWE and AEW. As well as go over what's happening in the wrestling news. We don't pretend to have inside knowledge and we still seem to guess whats happening next with about the same accuracy as everyone who claims they do. So tune in and tip your glass with us as we cover what we like, what we don't, and how we see things from the outside looking in! If you’ve got no one to talk wrestling with then be we will be your Drinking Buddies!
Twitter for hosts @RefMarsh @Kevlarontherox @CrybabyKlump @AmandaJayne @Beard_Sports @ShakesNYG
Twitch.tv/wrestlingontherocks for live streams every Wednesday and Thursday where you can join the chat and be apart of the show!
www.wrestlingontherocks.com/shop to support!
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Welcome to the Dive bar of the IWC! Come have a drink with your Drinking Buddies!
MsAmandaJayne and Digi entertain a drop in by Marsh! They chat about the general going on of the news!
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MsAmandaJayne, DigiDaemon, and Marsh discuss this past week in Indy's.. Recorded January 4, 2023
Just a couple of friends having drinks and talking wrestling. We review WWE and AEW. As well as go over what's happening in the wrestling news. We don't pretend to have inside knowledge and we still seem to guess whats happening next with about the same accuracy as everyone who claims they do. So tune in and tip your glass with us as we cover what we like, what we don't, and how we see things from the outside looking in! If you’ve got no one to talk wrestling with then be we will be your Drinking Buddies!
Twitter for hosts @RefMarsh @Kevlarontherox @CrybabyKlump @AmandaJayne @Beard_Sports @ShakesNYG
Twitch.tv/wrestlingontherocks for live streams every Wednesday and Thursday where you can join the chat and be apart of the show!
www.wrestlingontherocks.com/shop to support!
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Welcome to the Dive bar of the IWC! Come have a drink with your Drinking Buddies!
Marsh, Klump, and Bishop of Terrible Wrestling Takes Podcast talk about this week's RAW, first match of the year Nia Jax vs Becky Lynch, DIY, Judgement Day, and much more!
A broadcast of Fans First Sports Network - Cheers!
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Marsh, Klump, and Bishop ( @TWTakes Podcast ) discuss this past week in WWE.. Recorded January 4, 2024
Just a couple of friends having drinks and talking wrestling. We review WWE and AEW. As well as go over what's happening in the wrestling news. We don't pretend to have inside knowledge and we still seem to guess whats happening next with about the same accuracy as everyone who claims they do. So tune in and tip your glass with us as we cover what we like, what we don't, and how we see things from the outside looking in! If you’ve got no one to talk wrestling with then be we will be your Drinking Buddies!
Twitter for hosts @RefMarsh @Kevlarontherox @CrybabyKlump @AmandaJayne @Beard_Sports @ShakesNYG
Twitch.tv/wrestlingontherocks for live streams every Wednesday and Thursday where you can join the chat and be apart of the show!
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Welcome to the Dive bar of the IWC! Come have a drink with your Drinking Buddies!
MsAmandaJayne and Digi dig into this week of wrestling! They talk AEW, Wrestle Kingdom, all the rumor news, and much more!
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MsAmandaJayne and Digidaemon discuss this past week in indy wrestling.. Recorded January 4, 2024
Just a couple of friends having drinks and talking wrestling. We review WWE and AEW. As well as go over what's happening in the wrestling news. We don't pretend to have inside knowledge and we still seem to guess whats happening next with about the same accuracy as everyone who claims they do. So tune in and tip your glass with us as we cover what we like, what we don't, and how we see things from the outside looking in! If you’ve got no one to talk wrestling with then be we will be your Drinking Buddies!
Twitter for hosts @RefMarsh @Kevlarontherox @CrybabyKlump @AmandaJayne @Beard_Sports @ShakesNYG
Twitch.tv/wrestlingontherocks for live streams every Wednesday and Thursday where you can join the chat and be apart of the show!
www.wrestlingontherocks.com/shop to support!
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Welcome to the Dive bar of the IWC! Come have a drink with your Drinking Buddies!
Marsh, Klump, and Bishop of Terrible Wrestling Takes Podcast talk about the triumphant return of Jinder Mahal, The Rock IS America, The Rock is the answer if Randy isn't, wild speculation and the cucking of Money in the Bank!
A broadcast of Fans First Sports Network - Cheers!
Brought to you by the letter 8
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Marsh, Klump, and Bishop ( @TWTakes Podcast ) discuss this past week in WWE.. Recorded January 4, 2024
Just a couple of friends having drinks and talking wrestling. We review WWE and AEW. As well as go over what's happening in the wrestling news. We don't pretend to have inside knowledge and we still seem to guess whats happening next with about the same accuracy as everyone who claims they do. So tune in and tip your glass with us as we cover what we like, what we don't, and how we see things from the outside looking in! If you’ve got no one to talk wrestling with then be we will be your Drinking Buddies!
Twitter for hosts @RefMarsh @Kevlarontherox @CrybabyKlump @AmandaJayne @Beard_Sports @ShakesNYG
Twitch.tv/wrestlingontherocks for live streams every Wednesday and Thursday where you can join the chat and be apart of the show!
www.wrestlingontherocks.com/shop to support!
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Welcome to the Dive bar of the IWC! Come have a drink with your Drinking Buddies!
Marsh, Klump, and Bishop of Terrible Wrestling Takes Podcast talk about the Iron Claw movie, Marsh's major gripe is not what you think, TNA rumors, and much more!
A broadcast of Fans First Sports Network - Cheers!
Brought to you by the letter 8
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Marsh, Klump, and Bishop ( @TWTakes Podcast ) discuss this past week in WWE.. Recorded January 4, 2024
Just a couple of friends having drinks and talking wrestling. We review WWE and AEW. As well as go over what's happening in the wrestling news. We don't pretend to have inside knowledge and we still seem to guess whats happening next with about the same accuracy as everyone who claims they do. So tune in and tip your glass with us as we cover what we like, what we don't, and how we see things from the outside looking in! If you’ve got no one to talk wrestling with then be we will be your Drinking Buddies!
Twitter for hosts @RefMarsh @Kevlarontherox @CrybabyKlump @AmandaJayne @Beard_Sports @ShakesNYG
Twitch.tv/wrestlingontherocks for live streams every Wednesday and Thursday where you can join the chat and be apart of the show!
www.wrestlingontherocks.com/shop to support!
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Welcome to the Dive bar of the IWC! Come have a drink with your Drinking Buddies!
We welcome you to the 5th annual first ever Boozies! MsAmandaJayne and Digi breakdown the highlights of 2023! We award the Boozies for the finalcategories to include:
"Match of the year"
"Female superstar of the year"
"Male superstar of the year"
and "Superstar of the year"
A broadcast of Fans First Sports Network - Cheers!
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MsAmandaJayne and DigiDaemon discuss this past week in WWE.. Recorded December 31, 2023
Just a couple of friends having drinks and talking wrestling. We review WWE and AEW. As well as go over what's happening in the wrestling news. We don't pretend to have inside knowledge and we still seem to guess whats happening next with about the same accuracy as everyone who claims they do. So tune in and tip your glass with us as we cover what we like, what we don't, and how we see things from the outside looking in! If you’ve got no one to talk wrestling with then be we will be your Drinking Buddies!
Twitter for hosts @RefMarsh @Kevlarontherox @CrybabyKlump @AmandaJayne @Beard_Sports @ShakesNYG
Twitch.tv/wrestlingontherocks for live streams every Wednesday and Thursday where you can join the chat and be apart of the show!
www.wrestlingontherocks.com/shop to support!
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Welcome to the Dive bar of the IWC! Come have a drink with your Drinking Buddies!
MsAmandaJayne and Digi talk about the online rumors involving Chris Jericho and Kylie Rae
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MsAmandaJayne and DigiDaemon discuss this past week in WWE.. Recorded December 31, 2023
Just a couple of friends having drinks and talking wrestling. We review WWE and AEW. As well as go over what's happening in the wrestling news. We don't pretend to have inside knowledge and we still seem to guess whats happening next with about the same accuracy as everyone who claims they do. So tune in and tip your glass with us as we cover what we like, what we don't, and how we see things from the outside looking in! If you’ve got no one to talk wrestling with then be we will be your Drinking Buddies!
Twitter for hosts @RefMarsh @Kevlarontherox @CrybabyKlump @AmandaJayne @Beard_Sports @ShakesNYG
Twitch.tv/wrestlingontherocks for live streams every Wednesday and Thursday where you can join the chat and be apart of the show!
www.wrestlingontherocks.com/shop to support!
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Welcome to the Dive bar of the IWC! Come have a drink with your Drinking Buddies!
We welcome you to the 5th annual first ever Boozies! MsAmandaJayne and Digi breakdown the highlights of 2023! We award the Boozies for the next 6 categories to include:
"Holy shit moment"
"Comeback of the year"
"Rookie of the year"
"Breakout Performer"
"One more round"
and "This is Awesome!"
A broadcast of Fans First Sports Network - Cheers!
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MsAmandaJayne and DigiDaemon discuss this past week in WWE.. Recorded December 28, 2023
Just a couple of friends having drinks and talking wrestling. We review WWE and AEW. As well as go over what's happening in the wrestling news. We don't pretend to have inside knowledge and we still seem to guess whats happening next with about the same accuracy as everyone who claims they do. So tune in and tip your glass with us as we cover what we like, what we don't, and how we see things from the outside looking in! If you’ve got no one to talk wrestling with then be we will be your Drinking Buddies!
Twitter for hosts @RefMarsh @Kevlarontherox @CrybabyKlump @AmandaJayne @Beard_Sports @ShakesNYG
Twitch.tv/wrestlingontherocks for live streams every Wednesday and Thursday where you can join the chat and be apart of the show!
www.wrestlingontherocks.com/shop to support!
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices -
Welcome to the Dive bar of the IWC! Come have a drink with your Drinking Buddies!
We welcome you to the 5th annual first ever Boozies! MsAmandaJayne and Digi breakdown the highlights of 2023! We award the Boozies for the first 6 categories to include:
"You're drunk go home"
"Got me buzzing"
"Give them a chance"
"Sorry to see you go"
"Dressed to impress"
and "Behind the scenes"
A broadcast of Fans First Sports Network - Cheers!
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MsAmandaJayne and DigiDaemon discuss this past week in WWE.. Recorded December 28, 2023
Just a couple of friends having drinks and talking wrestling. We review WWE and AEW. As well as go over what's happening in the wrestling news. We don't pretend to have inside knowledge and we still seem to guess whats happening next with about the same accuracy as everyone who claims they do. So tune in and tip your glass with us as we cover what we like, what we don't, and how we see things from the outside looking in! If you’ve got no one to talk wrestling with then be we will be your Drinking Buddies!
Twitter for hosts @RefMarsh @Kevlarontherox @CrybabyKlump @AmandaJayne @Beard_Sports @ShakesNYG
Twitch.tv/wrestlingontherocks for live streams every Wednesday and Thursday where you can join the chat and be apart of the show!
www.wrestlingontherocks.com/shop to support!
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices -
Welcome to the Dive bar of the IWC! Come have a drink with your Drinking Buddies!
We welcome you to the 5th annual first ever Boozies! Marsh, Klump, and Bishop of Terrible Wrestling Takes Podcast breakdown the highlights of 2023! We award the Boozies for the next categories to include:
"This is awesome"
"Match of the year"
"Female superstar of the year"
"Male superstar of the year"
and "Superstar of the year"
A broadcast of Fans First Sports Network - Cheers!
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Marsh, Klump, and Bishop ( @TWTakes Podcast ) discuss this past week in WWE.. Recorded December 27, 2023
Just a couple of friends having drinks and talking wrestling. We review WWE and AEW. As well as go over what's happening in the wrestling news. We don't pretend to have inside knowledge and we still seem to guess whats happening next with about the same accuracy as everyone who claims they do. So tune in and tip your glass with us as we cover what we like, what we don't, and how we see things from the outside looking in! If you’ve got no one to talk wrestling with then be we will be your Drinking Buddies!
Twitter for hosts @RefMarsh @Kevlarontherox @CrybabyKlump @AmandaJayne @Beard_Sports @ShakesNYG
Twitch.tv/wrestlingontherocks for live streams every Wednesday and Thursday where you can join the chat and be apart of the show!
www.wrestlingontherocks.com/shop to support!
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices -
Welcome to the Dive bar of the IWC! Come have a drink with your Drinking Buddies!
We welcome you to the 5th annual first ever Boozies! Marsh, Klump, and Bishop of Terrible Wrestling Takes Podcast breakdown the highlights of 2023! We award the Boozies for the next categories to include:
"Holy shit moment"
"Comeback of the year"
"Rookie of the year"
"Breakout Performer"
and "One more round"
A broadcast of Fans First Sports Network - Cheers!
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Marsh, Klump, and Bishop ( @TWTakes Podcast ) discuss this past week in WWE.. Recorded December 27, 2023
Just a couple of friends having drinks and talking wrestling. We review WWE and AEW. As well as go over what's happening in the wrestling news. We don't pretend to have inside knowledge and we still seem to guess whats happening next with about the same accuracy as everyone who claims they do. So tune in and tip your glass with us as we cover what we like, what we don't, and how we see things from the outside looking in! If you’ve got no one to talk wrestling with then be we will be your Drinking Buddies!
Twitter for hosts @RefMarsh @Kevlarontherox @CrybabyKlump @AmandaJayne @Beard_Sports @ShakesNYG
Twitch.tv/wrestlingontherocks for live streams every Wednesday and Thursday where you can join the chat and be apart of the show!
www.wrestlingontherocks.com/shop to support!
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices -
Welcome to the Dive bar of the IWC! Come have a drink with your Drinking Buddies!
MsAmandaJayne and Digi breakdown the highlights from this week in the AEW and Indy wrestling before getting into the year end Bozzie awards.
A broadcast of Fans First Sports Network - Cheers!
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MsAmandaJayne and DigiDaemon discuss this past week in The indys.. Recorded December 28, 2023
Just a couple of friends having drinks and talking wrestling. We review WWE and AEW. As well as go over what's happening in the wrestling news. We don't pretend to have inside knowledge and we still seem to guess whats happening next with about the same accuracy as everyone who claims they do. So tune in and tip your glass with us as we cover what we like, what we don't, and how we see things from the outside looking in! If you’ve got no one to talk wrestling with then be we will be your Drinking Buddies!
Twitter for hosts @RefMarsh @Kevlarontherox @CrybabyKlump @AmandaJayne @Beard_Sports @ShakesNYG
Twitch.tv/wrestlingontherocks for live streams every Wednesday and Thursday where you can join the chat and be apart of the show!
www.wrestlingontherocks.com/shop to support!
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