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  • In this episode, Caroline is joined by Kobie Dee, hailed as one of the most exciting voices in Australian hip hop. Kobie Dee, a Gomeroi artist from Maroubra in South Sydney, Bidjigal Land. Through songs like "Statistic," "Father's Eyes," and "Still Standing," (to name a few) Kobie is using his love and passion for music and performing to create powerful messages and stories, using hip hop music as a vehicle for change.

    In this episode, Caroline and Kobie Dee yarn about Kobie’s music journey, where he draws inspiration and how he creates powerful messages and stories, using hip hop music as a vehicle for change. They yarn about his passion for guiding and uplifting his community through performance and providing artistic mentoring opportunities. He has a talent for connecting with youth, and he yarns about the new recording studio he’s opening in his home town of Maroubra and how he hopes it will inspire future generations to connect with their culture and ancestors.

    They also explore Kobie's personal journey into fatherhood. Gain unique insights into Kobie Dee's tracks and songwriting process, particularly for his latest song "Statistic," guaranteed to find its way onto your playlist

    To keep up to date with all the deadly work Kobie Dee is doing, make sure to follow him on social media @kobiedee47

    If you enjoyed this episode, please leave a review and don’t forget to follow the show!

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    We would like to acknowledge Aboriginal people as Australia’s First Peoples’ who have never ceded their sovereignty. We acknowledge the Wurundjeri/Woiwurrung people of the Kulin Nation where the podcast was taped. We pay our deepest respects to Traditional Owners across Australia and Elders past, present and emerging.

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  • In this episode, Caroline is joined by Naomi Moran, CEO of the National Indigenous Newspaper, the Koori Mail. Naomi is a proud Bundjalung and Djangadi woman. Generations of her family have lived on Cabbage Tree Island in Yangaboar country, and she also has strong roots in Kempsey country. She started her career in black media, where at the age of 14 she made the decision to leave school and begin a traineeship at the Koori Mail in 1988. Fast Forward to now, she’s the CEO of this media outlet, which is 100% Aboriginal owned and self-funded.

    In this episode, Caroline and Naomi yarn about the importance of black media in telling the stories of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people, and how it’s vital in breaking the stigmas, bias and stereotypes that plague western media outlets. Naomi talks about balancing running a media company with motherhood, and how by educating her son about his heritage she’s helping to inspire the next generation to tell the stories of their people.

    To keep up to date with all the deadly work the Koori Mail is doing , make sure to follow them on social media:

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    We would like to acknowledge Aboriginal people as Australia’s First Peoples’ who have never ceded their sovereignty. We acknowledge the Wurundjeri/Woiwurrung people of the Kulin Nation where the podcast was taped. We pay our deepest respects to Traditional Owners across Australia and Elders past, present and emerging.

    This podcast was brought to you by On Track Studio.

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  • In this episode, Caroline is joined by model, actress, poet and activist Guyala Bayles. Guyala is a proud Birri Gubba and Wonnarua woman. At only 21 years old, she has a very impressive portfolio under her belt, working with iconic Australian brands like Country Road, David Jones and Cotton On. Guyala’s trailblazing efforts to make Aboriginal faces seen and heard in Australia’s media landscape are inspired by her family. Her grandfather Tiga Bayles had a passion for amplifying First Nation’s voices and stories, which led him to become a driving force in the creation of the Brisbane Indigenous Media Association and the National Indigenous Radio Service in Queensland. Her Grandmother Maureen Watson was also an avid supporter of Aboriginal rights in Australia, alongside her work as a renowned actor, vocalist, writer and storyteller.

    With such a strong family legacy, Caroline talks to Guyala about the complicated dance that is embracing the path forged by her ancestors while also growing into her own person with her own beliefs and ways of being. Guyala reflects on her numerous past projects, including her starring role in the Australian film 6 Festivals, as well as looks to the future with her new found passion of storytelling through music. They yarn over a shared challenge of wearing many hats, and the importance of filling your own cup first in order to best help others.

    To keep up to date with all the deadly work Guyala is doing, make sure to follow her on social media:

    Instagram @guyala_lala



    If you enjoyed this episode, please leave a review and don’t forget to follow the show!

    Follow Caroline on Instagram @blak_wattle_coaching and learn more about working with Caroline here!

    We would like to acknowledge Aboriginal people as Australia’s First Peoples’ who have never ceded their sovereignty. We acknowledge the Wurundjeri/Woiwurrung people of the Kulin Nation where the podcast was taped. We pay our deepest respects to Traditional Owners across Australia and Elders past, present and emerging.

    This podcast was brought to you by On Track Studio.

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  • In this episode, Caroline is joined by Jye Murray, also known as his online persona, The Koori Physio. Jye is a proud Wiradjuri and Ngemba man who was born and raised in Cowra. A qualified Physiotherapist and someone who is incredibly passionate about Aboriginal social determinants of health. He is using his voice to help close the widening Aboriginal health gap grossly affecting Aboriginal people and communities. He inspires and educates mobs to live healthy lives and advocates for systemic change.


    In this episode, Caroline and Jye yarn about Aboriginal health, and the racist, systematic and cultural barriers that prevent mob from achieving their desired health. They yarn about the trauma and the impacts of the body, mind and spirit. And lastly, they unpack their own personal journeys and setbacks when making choices and lifestyle changes when trying their best, to live a happier and healthier life.

    To keep up to date with all the deadly work Jye is doing , make sure to follow him on social media:

    Instagram @thekooriphysio

    TikTok @thekooriphysio

    YouTube @thekooriphysio3285

    If you enjoyed this episode, please leave a review and don’t forget to follow the show!

    Follow Caroline on Instagram @blak_wattle_coaching and learn more about working with Caroline here!

    We would like to acknowledge Aboriginal people as Australia’s First Peoples’ who have never ceded their sovereignty. We acknowledge the Wurundjeri/Woiwurrung people of the Kulin Nation where the podcast was taped. We pay our deepest respects to Traditional Owners across Australia and Elders past, present and emerging.

    This podcast was brought to you by On Track Studio.

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  • In today's “pinch me moment” episode, Caroline has a special yarn with the incredibly talented singer, songwriter and performer, Kee’ahn Bindol at the 2023 Beyond The Valley Festival at Barunah Plains an, an ancient and natural amphitheater, on Waddawurrung Country.

    Kee’ahn is a proud Yalanji, Jirrbal, Badu Islander who in 2019 ventured from their home town in North Queensland, to pursue a dream in the Naarm. In 2020, Kee’ahn released the debut single ‘Better Things’. That year, Kee’ahn was awarded the Archie Roach Foundation Award at the 2020 National Indigenous Music Awards later winning the Archie Roach Foundation Award at the Music Victoria Awards.

    In this end of year episode, they unpack the inspiration behind Kee’ahn's new dance tracks, ‘Catch the Night’ and ‘Sunsets’ and the profound impact music has had on her life.They explore the art of musical storytelling, examining its role in raising social consciousness and helping to instigate social change. Caroline explains the deeply sophisticated concept of Aboriginal Songlines, ancient GPS pathways utilised for sharing knowledge, trade roots, and stories.

    The chat concludes with Caroline, Kee’ahn and audience members 2024 lessons and personal reflections. Yarns about relationships, grief, the referendum, and the intentionality of cultivating meaningful connections in a complex world, along with the need to embrace emotions, family, kin and culture and spaces like BTV to ‘be’ in community.

    If you enjoyed this episode, please leave a rating and review so we can elevate First Nations people and stories and don’t forget to follow the show! Follow Caroline on Instagram @blak_wattle_coaching and learn more about working with Caroline HERE

    We would like to acknowledge Aboriginal people as Australia’s First Peoples’ who have never ceded their sovereignty. We acknowledge the Wurundjeri/Woiwurrung people of the Kulin Nation where the podcast was recorded. We pay our deepest respects to Traditional Owners across Australia and Elders past and present. And our future young generations.

    Language Warning: this episode contains explicit language.

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  • In this week's funny episode, Caroline is joined by the incredibly talented Kimmie Lovegrove, a proud Ngarrindjeri and Romanian woman who has been gracing the comedy scene since 2014. With accolades such as Deadly Funny finalist in both 2017 and 2018, and appearing as a special guest on the prestigious Melbourne International Comedy Festival roadshow in 2021. Kimmie has taken her passion further by curating comedy shows and creating comedy workshops through her company Kungari Productions, to help support and make way for other Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander comedians in Victoria.

    Caroline and Kimmie engage in a lively discussion about navigating the comedy industry as a Blackfulla, delving into the art of crafting jokes and the delicate balance between humour and offence. Kimmie graciously opens up about her personal journey into the world of comedy. From a spontaneous school talent show comedy skit that secured her first-place victory, to the revelation of stand-up comedy as her calling, Kimmie shares the unique twists and turns that have shaped her path. We also get to hear Kimmie's invaluable insights as she offers advice for aspiring comedians reflecting the lessons she has learned along her remarkable journey.

    To keep up to date with Kimmie’s magic, you can follow Kungari Productions HERE.

    If you enjoyed this episode, please leave a rating and review so we can elevate First Nations people and stories and don’t forget to follow the show! Follow Caroline on Instagram @blak_wattle_coaching and learn more about working with Caroline HERE

    We would like to acknowledge Aboriginal people as Australia’s First Peoples’ who have never ceded their sovereignty. We acknowledge the Wurundjeri/Woiwurrung people of the Kulin Nation where the podcast was recorded. We pay our deepest respects to Traditional Owners across Australia and Elders past and present. And our future young generations.

    This episode is for entertainment purposes only and doesn't replace medical advice.

    This podcast was brought to you by On Track Studio.

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  • In this week’s episode Caroline is joined by proud Wiradjuri and Yuin Woman Teisha Toi. Teisha is a mother, a cultural dancer and woman, a Dhelk Dja Counsellor at Albury Wodonga Health Service (AHWAS) and is deeply passionate about the reclamation and decolonisation of ancient and sacred Aboriginal practices - such as birthing on Country.

    In this potent episode, Caroline and Teisha engage in an exceptionally raw yarn about motherhood, and delve into Teisha's remarkable journey of motherhood and her unique experience of giving birth on Country. Teisha recounts her journey of giving birth on Country, sharing her emotions and insights from the experience and the many profound lessons she's learned in navigating this process, mostly without support from the Western health care system. Together, they both explore their own journeys as daughters and also their mother wounds. This episode serves as a poignant reminder that, despite the impact of colonisation on our traditional practices and ways, are as Teish says, ‘inscribed in our DNA.’

    Teisha is committed to sharing her story and facilitating conversations on this topic with those wanting to learn more. She has generously shared her Birthing on Country video which can be found HERE. To reach out to Teisha and find out more follow her on Instagram HERE.

    If you enjoyed this episode, please leave a rating and review so we can elevate First Nations people and stories and don’t forget to follow the show! Follow Caroline on Instagram @blak_wattle_coaching and learn more about working with Caroline HERE

    We would like to acknowledge Aboriginal people as Australia’s First Peoples’ who have never ceded their sovereignty. We acknowledge the Wurundjeri/Woiwurrung people of the Kulin Nation where the podcast was recorded. We pay our deepest respects to Traditional Owners across Australia and Elders past and present. And our future young generations.

    This episode is for entertainment purposes only and doesn't replace medical advice.

    This podcast was brought to you by On Track Studio.

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  • In this weeks episode, Caroline is joined by proud Palawa woman from Nipaluna (Hobart) in Lutruwita (Tasmania) Maggie Blanden. Maggie is a graduating lawyer and community activist and passionate youth advocate in the space of Indigenous self-determination, gender and sexual violence and criminal justice reform, particularly empowering young women.

    In this exceptionally candid episode, they unpack their very raw feelings and the fallout from a failed and racist referendum where almost 60 percent (9.45million) of Australians voted ‘NO’ against establishing a national Aboriginal and Torre Strait Islander Voice to Parliament.

    Maggie, who has just recently been nominated for an Australian Human Rights Award, for hers and other tireless efforts in providing neutral and fact based information during the referendum campaign, comes from a long line or staunch community activist and leaders, and we yarn about her great grandmother, Aunty Ida West among others members of her family.

    Maggie shares her personal story, and what sparked her and others to setup Naarm Law School, using their resources, power and privilege, to inform the masses. Together they both talk about how they are processing the fallout of the referendum, and Maggie shares and reaffirms what could be next for the movement. Both unanimously agree that despite this huge setback and grief process First Nations are enduring, that First Nations people are a proud and resourceful people, who will continue to campaign and fight the good fight- ‘we might be down but we are not defeated’

    To see the live referendum results which are still be counted you can visit ABC polls here.

    To find out more about Maggie, visit the link here: https://www.commonground.org.au/article/a-letter-from-maggie-blanden

    Follow her on Instagram: @moogiewoogieee

    Pay The Rent program is organised by First Nations and non-First Nations people working together, as the Pay The Rent Grassroots Collective. To find out more and show your support visit here: https://paytherent.net.au/

    If you, or someone you know, are feeling worried or no good, we encourage you to connect with 13YARN on 13 92 76 (24 hours/7 days) and talk with an Aboriginal or Torres Strait Islander Crisis Supporter - https://www.13yarn.org.au/

    If you enjoyed this episode, please leave a review and don’t forget to follow the show!

    Follow Caroline on Instagram @blak_wattle_coaching and learn more about working with Caroline here!

    We would like to acknowledge Aboriginal people as Australia’s First Peoples’ who have never ceded their sovereignty. We acknowledge the Wurundjeri/Woiwurrung people of the Kulin Nation where the podcast was recorded. We pay our deepest respects to Traditional Owners across Australia and Elders past, present and emerging.

    This podcast was brought to you by On Track Studio.

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  • Mob always come come together, driven by our shared concern for the safety, well-being and joy of our communities. As we await the referendum announcement, we note that our community has been through a rollercoaster of uncomfortable emotions, unthinkable encounters with racism and danger, moments of anxiety, but also instances of remarkable beauty, too.

    Today's special guest is Tanja Hirvonen, a proud Jaru and Bunuba woman who was born and raised on the lands of the Kalkadoon people. Tanja is a clinical psychologist and a mid-career researcher with expertise in mental health, social and emotional well-being, suicide prevention, and working with individuals impacted by trauma.

    We engage in a big juicy yarn about the depth and complexity of Aboriginal Social Emotional Well-being framework. Tanja and Caroline share valuable insights on community and self-care strategies during these challenging times, emphasising the importance of slowing down and being compassionate with ourselves in emotionally draining moments.

    Side note: We feel it’s important to remember that experiencing a range of emotions is a natural and valid part of any change. It's crucial to acknowledge our feelings and consider what support we can provide for ourselves and seek from others. In these challenging periods, we strongly encourage you to prioritise both self-care and the well-being of your community of care, your peeps, your resources. Your healers, listeners and lovers, and being willing to embrace the mutual love and support that surrounds you.

    If you or someone you know is feeling anxious or struggling, we urge you to reach out to 13YARN at 13 92 76 (available 24/7) and speak with an Aboriginal or Torres Strait Islander Crisis Supporter - Link to 13YARN.

    If you enjoyed this episode, we would love to hear it. Follow Caroline on Instagram @blak_wattle_coaching and learn more about working with Caroline here!

    We would like to acknowledge Aboriginal people as Australia’s First Peoples’ who have never ceded their sovereignty. We acknowledge the Wurundjeri/Woiwurrung people of the Kulin Nation where the podcast was recorded. We pay our deepest respects to Traditional Owners across Australia and Elders past, present and emerging.

    This podcast was brought to you by On Track Studio.

    www.ontrackstudio.com.au

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  • Have you ever asked yourself, "What exactly is a Treaty?" As Australia prepares to participate in an unprecedented referendum in October to enshrine an Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander voice in the constitution, it's a question that many everyday Australians find themselves pondering. Something many First Nations communities have long called for.

    In this episode, Caroline is joined by the Co-Chairs of the Victorian First People's Assembly, Reuben Berg and Ngarra Murray.

    Reuben Berg is a proud Gunditjmara man and devoted father of two children. Ngarra Murray is a Wamba Wamba, Yorta Yorta, Dhudhuroa and Dja Dja Wurrung woman. She is the mother of four children and the second oldest of 12 siblings. Both have worked tirelessly with and alongside Victorian Aboriginal communities.

    In this episode, they delve deeply into the significant undertaking of the Assembly, a democratically elected body established to negotiate Treaties, and the steps they have taken since 2019. They explain what a Treaty is and discuss the practical and iterative journey toward local and state-based Treaties being signed in the next few years. They also discuss how the Assembly arrived at a ‘yes’ position and the many opportunities that may come with a 'yes' vote, highlighting how it will complement work in Voice, Treaty and Truth Telling. Finally, in light of the recent rise in racial abuse among First Nations communities, they explore the importance of self-care and collective care.

    To follow the work of the First People’s Assembly click here. To follow Ngarra Murray, click here. And Reuben here.

    If you enjoyed this episode, please leave a review and don’t forget to follow the show! Follow Caroline on Instagram @blak_wattle_coaching and learn more about working with Caroline here!

    We would like to acknowledge Aboriginal people as Australia’s First Peoples’ who have never ceded their sovereignty. We acknowledge the Wurundjeri/Woiwurrung people of the Kulin Nation where the podcast was recorded. We pay our deepest respects to Traditional Owners across Australia and Elders past, present and emerging.

    This podcast was brought to you by On Track Studio.

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  • In this very important episode, Caroline yarns extensively with Thomas Mayo, a proud Kaurareg, Kalkalgal and Erub Torres Strait Islander man. Thomas is a published author having published six books, his latest book is co-authored with well-respected journalist, Kerry O’Brien, The Voice to Parliament Handbook - All the details you needwas published 17 May 2023.

    Tom is also the signatory of the Uluru Statement from the Heart and has been a leading advocate since the statement's development in 2017, yarning with First Nations people, families and communities for the last 6 years.

    In the next few months, Australians will have their say, in a once in a generation referendum, on whether to 'recognise Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples as the First Peoples of Australia in the Constitution through an Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Voice'. It's understood the design of the Voice itself will follow and will be elected based on local communities wishes. It will be an independent and representative body for First Nations peoples and communities.

    It would advise the Australian Parliament and the Government.It would give First Nations peoples a say on matters that affect them.

    In this yarn, Tom Mayo shares the opportunity with a 'YES' vote, to have a national and consolidated policy approach led by First Nations people and not governments.
    He delves deep into the origins of First Nations statements and petitions in 'so called Australia' dating back to William Cooper's statement to the king, in 1938. He shares the journey that led to the development of the Uluru Statement of the heart in 2017, which calls for the 'establishment of a First Nations Voice enshrined in the Constitution and a Makarrata Commission to supervise a process of Treaty/agreement-making and truth-telling about our history.'

    Lastly, he discusses the 8 design principles, or key next steps, following a 'YES' vote. To find out more about these key next phases, visit here!

    To follow Tom Mayo and the work he is doing to support communities to understand this process, visit Thomas Mayo here!

    If you enjoyed this episode, please leave a review and don’t forget to follow the show!

    Caroline is the Founder of Blak Wattle Coaching and Consulting and can be found on instagram @blak_wattle_coaching and learn more about working with Caroline here!

    We would like to acknowledge Aboriginal people as Australia’s First Peoples’ who have never ceded their sovereignty. We acknowledge the Wurundjeri/Woiwurrung people of the Kulin Nation where the podcast was recorded. We pay our deepest respects to Traditional Owners across Australia and Elders past, present and emerging.

    This podcast was brought to you by Blak Wattle Coaching and Consulting and On Track Studio.

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  • In this episode, Caroline welcomes Thomas Busby and proud Torres Strait Islander man, and Jeremy Marou from Busby Marou to the podcast. From playing in a Rockhampton (Darumbal land) pub for a couple of beers, to having three Top 5 albums on the ARIA charts over an impressive 15 year music career, the journey of Busby Marou is certainly an inspirational one. In this episode, Caroline talks with this down to earth and dynamic duo, about the release of their fifth studio album, Blood Red.

    Thomas and Jeremy get personal and yarn everything from overcoming imposter syndrome, to how their close bond and understanding of each other's style helps them work together as band mates. Tom and Jeremy also touch on what seems like an impossible task - balancing children with work in an industry that often sees you hitting the road for weeks on tour.

    Listeners will also get to hear some favourite moments of their expansive career, including an impromptu recording session in South Carolina with Darius Rucker from Hootie and the Blowfish, meeting Dolly Parton to being a supporting act for Elton John!

    Listen to the Blood Red Album on Spotify

    If you enjoyed this episode, please leave a review and don’t forget to follow the show!

    Follow Caroline on Instagram @blak_wattle_coaching and learn more about working with Caroline here!

    We would like to acknowledge Aboriginal people as Australia’s First Peoples’ who have never ceded their sovereignty. We acknowledge the Wurundjeri/Woiwurrung people of the Kulin Nation where the podcast was recorded. We pay our deepest respects to Traditional Owners across Australia and Elders past, present and emerging.

    This podcast was brought to you by On Track Studio.

    www.ontrackstudio.com.au

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  • In this captivating episode, Caroline is accompanied by a truly exceptional guest who holds a special place in her heart—her beloved Uncle Gerry Turpin. Uncle Gerry is a proud Mbarbrum man from Far North Queensland, a distinguished Ethnobotanist, and TEDx Speaker, a hobbyist guitarist, and all round legend. Gerry brings with him a wealth of knowledge and experience on traditional bush medicine.

    With the 2023 NAIDOC week theme, "For Our Elders” resonating deeply, Caroline and Uncle Gerry engage in a heartfelt conversation about Uncle Gerry’s life. They explore the profound significance of NAIDOC and what NAIDOC means to them both, and the many hard fought battles from our Elders and the importance of honouring and listening to our First Nations Elders.

    Uncle Gerry share many personal
    reflections, anecdotes about his personal life and his professional journey as an Ethnobotanist. We yarned about the opportunities which have emerged since receiving our traditional land back, and how he wholeheartedly embraces his cultural responsibilities, demonstrating unwavering commitment to safeguarding, managing, sharing, and preserving the invaluable cultural wisdom surrounding traditional bush and plant medicine and usage.

    Uncle Gerry's passion for traditional bush medicine shines through as he unveils the incredible stories from which they originate. Notably, he highlights the evolving landscape of Western Science and its intersection with First Nations knowledge, as well as the growing receptiveness towards traditional bush plants and medicine that has been an integral part of First Nations cultures for generations.

    See Uncle Gerry’s TEDxtalk here.

    If you enjoyed this episode, please leave a review and don’t forget to follow the show!

    Follow Caroline on Instagram @blak_wattle_coaching and learn more about working with Caroline here!

    We would like to acknowledge Aboriginal people as Australia’s First Peoples’ who have never ceded their sovereignty. We acknowledge the Wurundjeri/Woiwurrung people of the Kulin Nation where the podcast was recorded. We pay our deepest respects to Traditional Owners across Australia and Elders past, present and emerging.

    This podcast was brought to you by On Track Studio.

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  • In this episode, Caroline is joined by proud Wadjanbarra Yidinji, Jirrbal, and African-American woman Sasha Kutabah Sarago. Sasha is the author of the deeply raw and soul nourishing book ‘Gigorou’ meaning 'beautiful' in Jirrbal, her grandmother's language, which takes audiences on a journey of First Nations Wisdom and Womanhood.

    Sasha is also a former model, business woman, and speaker who advocates for culture, diversity, and equity in business, media, and lifestyle. Her TEDx talk, 'The (de)colonising of beauty,' was recognised as an Editor's Choice on TED.com in 2021.

    In this yarn, Caroline and Sasha explore the themes of Sasha’s new book ‘Gigorou’, which invites women to reclaim their femininity, their softness, their beauty, their rage, their power - all while navigating colonial beauty ideals and standards.


    They delve deep into the empowering concepts of decolonising beauty and Blak power, and radical self care for First Nations people.

    Emotions run high as they discuss the necessary steps to reclaiming one's voice and dismantling the stifling expectations placed upon First Nations women, a topic that resonates profoundly with Sasha. They also unpack the complex dynamics of anger as a First Nations tidda/sister, an episode not to be missed.

    Link to Sasha’s TEDx talk - Decolonising Beauty, here. Sasha’s book Gigorou is also available at Booktopia and Audible.

    To keep up to date with what Sasha’s up to, follow her on Instagram @ascensionmag. If you enjoyed this episode, please leave a review and don’t forget to follow the show!

    Follow Caroline on Instagram @blak_wattle_coaching and learn more about working with Caroline here!

    We would like to acknowledge Aboriginal people as Australia’s First Peoples’ who have never ceded their sovereignty. We acknowledge the Wurundjeri/Woiwurrung people of the Kulin Nation where the podcast was taped. We pay our deepest respects to Traditional Owners across Australia and Elders past, present and emerging.

    This podcast was brought to you by On Track Studio.

    www.ontrackstudio.com.au

    @on.track.studio

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  • In this episode, Caroline is joined by proud Wiradjuri woman Taylah Gray, whose campaigning efforts for First Nations rights have made national headlines. And if that wasn’t impressive enough, she is the first Aboriginal student to undertake a PhD in law at the University of Newcastle, which focuses on Native Title, land reform, and increasing economic growth for First Nations communities.


    In this episode, Caroline and Taylah yarn about what’s it’s like taking the TedX stage, which saw Taylah recently educate the audience on Native Title. They discussed the value of disagreement/disputes and devisiveness of The Voice. Taylah generously shared how she chooses self-love and self care. And finally, Caroline and Taylah open up about their shared experiences of losing a parent, and Taylah’s offers some beautiful and profound view on grief and loss, which everyone needs to hear!

    To keep up to date with what Taylah’s follow her on Instagram taylah_gray_.

    If you enjoyed this episode, please leave a review and don’t forget to follow the show!

    Follow Caroline on Instagram @blak_wattle_coaching and learn more about working with Caroline here!

    We would like to acknowledge Aboriginal people as Australia’s First Peoples’ who have never ceded their sovereignty. We acknowledge the Wurundjeri/Woiwurrung people of the Kulin Nation where the podcast was taped. We pay our deepest respects to Traditional Owners across Australia and Elders past, present and emerging.

    This podcast was brought to you by On Track Studio.

    www.ontrackstudio.com.au

    @on.track.studio

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  • In this episode, Caroline is joined by Brooke Blurton. Brooke is a proud Noongar/Yamatji person living in Naarm/Melbourne. Brooke broke records as the first Indigenous and bisexual Bachelorette for Network Ten's reality show and has since built an impressive career in the media Industry, including appearing in several other programs and co-hosting the “Not so PG podcast.”

    In this episode, Caroline and Brooke yarn about Brooke’s first memoir and book 'Big Love' which is about reclaiming herself, her people and her Country. Brooke speaks about her personal story, and the uplifting power of unconditional connection and love. They also unpack how in a white society not built for First Nations people how Brooke has found her own voice, and she also provides some really practical tips to cultivate self-love.

    To keep up to date with what’s Brooke’s up to, follow her on Instagram @brooke.blurton. To purchase Brookes book ‘Big Love’ visit here.

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  • In this episode, Caroline is joined by proud Gunnai, Kurnai, Yorta Yorta & Wiradjuri woman Sky Thomas, and Rosie Kalina, a proud Wemba Wemba & Gunditjmara woman. Both are two iconic and community minded First Nations creatives, providing Blak joy through music, art and expression!

    Rosie is a highly regarded creative working in multiple artistic fields. She works in visual arts and curating, she specialises in makeup artistry, community arts work and producing. She is this years Creative Associate for YIRRAMBOI.

    And Sky has a history in the creative industries, community engagement and events production – and she’s implementing all that she’s digested over the years into her new role of Music Producer at YIRRAMBOI.

    Returning for its 4th Iteration, YIRRAMBOI will run from the 4 – 14 May 2023. It will again invite audiences to immerse themselves in Blak stories- our truth, our way. YIRRAMBOI means ‘tomorrow’ in both the Boonwurrung and Woiwurrung peoples language. It will celebrate the interconnectedness and diversity of First Nations creatives, both locally and globally, through a 10-day celebration of various artistic expressions that showcase the resilience and evolutionary practices of First Nations people.

    During this episode, Sky and Rosie offer insights into what people can expect at this year's event, which includes a vast array of immersive experience with a ‘post apocalyptic theme’ - such as music, dance, drag, visual arts, fashion and so much more!

    We yarn about Rosie’s and Sky family which have inspired their artistic joy and abilities, yarn some of their favourite and upcoming creatives, and of course, why Blak spaces that ooze Blak love and joy are needed.

    Naarm/Melbourne, are you ready to feel the hum of Country beneath. Will you hear it? To find out more information about YIRRAMBOI, check out the website here.

    To keep up to date with Rosie, be sure to follow on Instagram here.

    To keep up to date with Sky, be sure to follow on Instagram here.

    To find out more information about Yirramboi, check out the website here.

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    We would like to acknowledge Aboriginal people as Australia’s First Peoples’ who have never ceded their sovereignty. We acknowledge the Wurundjeri/Woiwurrung people of the Kulin Nation where the podcast was taped. We pay our deepest respects to Traditional Owners across Australia and Elders past, present and emerging.

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  • In this episode, Caroline is joined by a proud Gamilaroi Woman, Brooke Boney. Brooke is a News and Entertainment Reporter for Today, with a background in political journalism and previous experience working for National Indigenous Television (NITV), SBS, and the ABC. After her role as Triple J's weekday morning news presenter, Brooke joined the Today Show.

    During their conversation, Caroline and Brooke discuss their personal stories and upbringings in large First Nations families. Brooke, an exceptional storyteller, writer, and reporter, shares her journey from her childhood and the career and life she has built for herself. They discuss Brooke Boney’s beautiful interaction with Denzel Washington, and other celebrities she has met and interviewed.

    Towards the end of the conversation, they delve into the topic of burnout and self-care. Working in the fast-paced media industry, Brooke shares her philosophy on avoiding burnout and finding ways to reground, balance, and stay afloat. To keep up to date with Brooke, be sure to follow on Instagram here.

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  • Yarning Up has returned for Season Three, with even more rich and inspiring, First Nation’s guests and conversations to come.

    In this season's first instalment, Caroline had the pleasure of yarning with Gunai, Kurnai and Wotjobaluk man, Ben Abbatangelo. Ben is a passionate and purpose driven storyteller, story-maker and story-amplifier, which is reflected in his many creative outputs. Such as documentaries for VICE, writing for The Saturday Paper and The Guardian, and being a regular voice for various ABC channels and The Project.

    The conversation between Caroline and Ben is deeply rich, inspiring, and generous. It delves deep into their perspectives, aspirations and doubts about the upcoming referendum in Australia, which is set to take place between October and December 2023.

    The referendum will seek to enshrine First Peoples into the constitution as the rightful owners of "so-called Australia" and ask all Australians the following:

    ‘’A Proposed Law: to alter the Constitution to recognise the First Peoples of Australia by establishing an Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Voice. Do you approve this proposed alteration?’’

    As well as that, it will be put to Australians that the constitution be amended to include a new chapter titled "Recognition of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Peoples"

    A special thanks to our listeners who also weighed in on this topic! We appreciate you. If you enjoyed this episode, please leave a review and don’t forget to follow the show!

    To keep up to date with Benny, be sure to follow on Instagram here.

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    We would like to acknowledge Aboriginal people as Australia’s First Peoples’ who have never ceded their sovereignty. We acknowledge the Wurundjeri/Woiwurrung people of the Kulin Nation where the podcast was taped. We pay our deepest respects to Traditional Owners across Australia and Elders past, present and emerging.

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  • In this week’s episode, Caroline is joined by the founders of Bush to Bowl. Bush to Bowl is 100% Aboriginal owned, by Clarence Bruinsma, proud Yaegl man, and Adam Byrne, proud Garigal/Gadigal man. Bush To Bowl is a social enterprise aimed at creating a healing space & platform for First Nations people by connecting to Country and their traditional foodways. Where they practice culture, give back to Country, mob and the wider community.

    In this eye opening yarn we learn about Adam and Clarence's journeys, how they met and what led them together to create such an impactful enterprise. Having both grown up in the country and learning from a young age the beauty and power beneath each plant and tree, their mission is to create spaces where families and community members can engage with Australia’s native plants and traditional Aboriginal knowledge and culture, and provide a community for young mob to work and grow. We learn about the power and medicine of Native Plants. And the need to centre First Nations justice, in the fight for Climate Justice.

    More about the guests:

    Adam Byrne

    Adam is a Garigal descendent currently living on Kamay Country on the Northern beaches of NSW. He is passionate about his Culture , teaching about it’s importance connecting mob to their traditional foodways as a form of healing. Adam is a qualified landscaper and designer who specialises in Horticulture and is inspired by traditional farming practices.

    Clarence Bruinsma

    Clarence is a Yaegl descendant who has had the luck of growing up in the North Coast of NSW learning about his culture on his Mothers Country. He has learnt about our traditional foods from a young age from turtle diving to foraging fresh foods from the bush throughout his life. He couples this with his profession of teaching and love for sharing to bring his knowledges to Bush to bowl

    To keep up to date with Bush to Bowl, be sure to follow on Instagram here.

    And to learn more, visit the website here.

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    We would like to acknowledge Aboriginal people as Australia’s First Peoples’ who have never ceded their sovereignty. We acknowledge the Wurundjeri/Woiwurrung people of the Kulin Nation where the podcast was taped. We pay our deepest respects to Traditional Owners across Australia and Elders past, present and emerging.

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