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For her season finale, Hillary sits down with her husband, the 42nd president of the United States, to continue a wide-ranging conversation theyâve been having together for over 50 years. From their home in Chappaqua, New York, amid the current war in the Middle East, they recall the eight years of work Bill did during his presidency to find a road to peace for the Israeli and Palestinian people. They tackle other pressing subjects like immigration, climate change, and the urgent need for funding the war in Ukraine. And they also look for hope wherever they can find itâincluding Northern Ireland and Albania, and, closer to home, through celebrating the holiday season and reflecting on the bond they continue to share with one another after all their years together.
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Hillary is traveling, and will be back next week with a new episode. In the meantime, weâre bringing back one of her favorites..
âBelieve in yourself.â For some people, thatâs a lifelong challenge. Then there are those rare folks, immensely talented and hard working, who always knew that they would be somebody. This week, Hillary talks with two of themâmultiple Grammy Award-winning singer/songwriter Brandi Carlile, and Broadway legend AndrĂ© De Shieldsâabout the dreams (and setbacks) that led to where they are today.
Brandi Carlile is a six-time Grammy Award-winning singer, songwriter, performer, and producer. Since her debut in 2004, she has released six studio albums and was the most nominated female artist at the 2019 Grammy Awards with six nominations, including Album, Record, and Song of the Year. Her memoir Broken Horses is a #1 New York Times bestseller.
AndrĂ© De Shieldsâ acting career spans over 50 years. While currently best known for his performance in the musical Hadestown, he also appeared in The Wiz, Play On!, Ainât Misbehavinâ, and The Full Monty, and has directed and choreographed several shows and appeared on film and television. AndrĂ© has won numerous awards throughout this career, including an Emmy Award, a Tony Award, and a Grammy Award.
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The overturning of Roe v. Wade in June of 2022 dealt a severe blow to womenâs health care in the United States. Today, nearly half of states in the country ban or severely restrict abortion care. The ripple effects reach far wider: hospitals are shutting maternity wards, and OB-GYNs are leaving states that donât allow them to provide essential care to their patients.
On todayâs episode, Hillary talks to two leaders in the fight to provide the reproductive health care all women deserve.
Illinois governor J. B. Pritzker has helped shepherd into law some of the strongest abortion protections in the country, not only for his constituents but for anyone seeking abortion care, regardless of their ability to pay. He talks to Hillary about why this fight is his fight, and about the intended and unintended consequences of anti-choice legislatorsâ draconian laws.
Dr. Yashica Robinson, an OB-GYN and the medical director of the Alabama Womenâs Center in Huntsville, has been on the front lines of reproductive health care in her state for decades. Throughout that time, state legislators and the Alabama Department of Health have thrown up roadblocks to prevent her patientsâmostly low income women of colorâ from accessing the care they need and deserve. She shares with Hillary the work sheâs doing to improve their outcomes, in the state with the highest maternal mortality rates in the country, including opening the stateâs first birth center, and explains why she cannot give up hope in the face of relentless opposition.
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This week, we bring you the first ever live recording of You and Me Both before a sold-out audience at Symphony Space in New York City. Hillary was joined by singer, actor, and three time Tony Award winner Patti LuPone, while writer and comedian Amber Ruffin served as MC.
Patti is best known for her roles in the Broadway productions of âCompanyâ, âGypsyâ, âSweeney Toddâ, âAnything Goesâ, and âEvitaâ, among others. Sheâs also appeared in many films and television shows, including, most recently, Beau Is Afraid, and the forthcoming Marvel miniseries Agatha: Coven of Chaos. Sheâs currently putting together a new concert: âPatti LuPone: A Life in Notesâ. Patti and Hillary talk about her early music education on Long Island and at Julliard, the challenges of performing in âEvitaâ, and why these days you will find her everywhere but on Broadway, as she seeks out new theatrical experiences as a performer and theatergoer. Together with Hillary, she laughs, she cries, and then she sings!
Event MC Amber Ruffin is an Emmy and WGA Award nominated writer and performer for NBCâs âLate Night with Seth Meyersâ and her own âThe Amber Ruffin Show.â She and her sister, Lacey, co-authored the New York Times bestseller Youâll Never Believe What Happened to Lacey: Crazy Stories of Racism and The World Record Book of Racist Stories, and they now co-host the podcast, The Amber & Lacey, Lacey & Amber Show! Amber is also writing a revival of the musical âThe Wizâ which began touring America this fall and lands on Broadway in the spring of 2024. She joined Hillary and Patti for an audience Q&A.
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A few months ago, Hillary wrote a piece for The Atlantic on what she called âthe weaponization of loneliness.â It was inspired, in part, by an important and alarming advisory issued by the Office of the Surgeon General on an underreported crisis in the United States: an epidemic of loneliness that has contributed to increased rates of opioid and alcohol addiction, domestic abuse, suicide, gun violence, as well as diabetes, heart disease, and more. To that list, Hillary added the rise in divisive, even toxic and dangerous, political engagement.
On this weekâs episode, Hillary talks with U.S. Surgeon General Dr. Vivek Murthy about his own experiences of loneliness as a child, the causes and effects of the loneliness epidemic, and his âWe Are Made to Connectâ tour, which seeks to raise awareness about the dangers of social isolation and create opportunities for connection on college campuses.
Then she speaks with actor, writer, director, and comedian John Leguizamo, whose work in theater, film, and television helps ease our sense of loneliness and isolation. From his Broadway hit Latin History for Morons to his roles in Super Mario Bros, Chef, and Encanto, and his MSNBC travel series Leguizamo Does America, John has won over audiences while also forging a path for Latino performers who are vastly underrepresented on stage and screens in the United States. Hillary talks with John about the math teacher who nudged him towards theater, performing for and breaking bread with inmates at Rikers Island, and his tireless efforts to make sure Latin people are represented in politics, the arts, and in our understanding of American history.
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Hillary has been an admirer of Barbra Streisandâs throughout her remarkable career, and a friend since they first met back in 1992. Thereâs lots to admire about this iconic singer, actor, writer, producer, and director, known for her best-selling albums, performances on stage and screen, and activism. âFunny Girlâ, âThe Way We Wereâ, âYentlâ, and âA Star Is Bornâ are just a few of the titles that remind us of the profound impact Barbra's made on our cultural landscape.
Now, sheâs added a new achievement to the list, with the release of her highly anticipated, expansive, and entertaining memoir: My Name is Barbra. She joins Hillary for a wide-ranging conversation about how she made her way from a cramped apartment in Flatbush, Brooklyn to the EGOT winner she is today; her special friendship with Hillaryâs mother-in-law Virginia; and her unflinching honesty, which played out to comic effect on the first date with her now-husband of twenty-five years, James Brolin.
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Itâs almost that time of year for holiday gatherings with family and friends. And with that comes lots of eating, maybe lots of cooking, and, for many, a growing list of topics that are off the table for discussion, as they run the risk of derailing an otherwise festive occasion.
Of course, there are times when we need to have difficult conversations, and to be able to disagree with others without threatening our connection to the people we love, or the vital work we need to get done.
On todayâs episode, Hillary speaks with Sarah Stewart Holland and Ambassador Linda Thomas-Greenfield, two people who are highly skilled at navigating difficult conversations, and can share stories and offer advice from the front lines.
Sarah is a progressive Democrat who ran for office (and won!), and is raising three kids, in the very red state of Kentucky. On the Pantsuit Politics podcast, she and her more politically conservative co-host Beth Silvers have been tackling challenging conversations since 2015. Theyâve written two books to help others do the same, including the book club favorite I Think Youâre Wrong (But Iâm Listening): A Guide to Grace-Filled Political Conversation.
Linda, the United States Ambassador to the United Nations, has been engaged in high-stakes, complex negotiations for decades. Over the course of her 35-year career with the Foreign Service, she served as U.S. Ambassador to Liberia, the Assistant Secretary of State for African Affairs, as the Director of Human Resources, and held posts abroad in Pakistan, Kenya, Nigeria, Switzerland, and elsewhere.You can read the full transcript HERE.
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As the worldâs attention is rightly drawn to the crisis unfolding in the Middle East, another devastating war rages on. Since Russiaâs invasion of Ukraine in February of 2022, Ukrainians have shown remarkable courage and determination in fighting to preserve their independence. But itâs come at a terrible cost, and victory is far from assured.
This past September at the annual meeting of the Clinton Global Initiative (CGI), together with Ukraineâs First Lady Olena Zelenska, Hillary announced the launch of a CGI Ukraine Action Networkâa coalition of partners committed to supporting the people of Ukraine. Both of her guests today are partners in that coalition, and have been doing everything they can to support the people of Ukraine in their brave and necessary fight to defend their freedom.
Olga Rudneva shares with us her work as CEO of Superhumans Center, a modern medical center providing prosthetic limbs, rehabilitation, and other essential services to Ukrainian men, women, and children who have lost limbs in the war.
Actor and director Liev Schreiber talks about how and why he co-founded BlueCheck Ukraine, a collective of humanitarian crisis response experts, entrepreneurs, and filmmakers who work to identify, vet, and fast-track urgent financial support to Ukrainian NGOs and aid initiatives providing life-saving and humanitarian work on the front lines of Russiaâs war on Ukraine.
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Youâve heard of listening tours, right? Hillaryâs done plenty of those. These days, New York City writer, humorist, and cultural icon Fran Lebowitz is in the midst of a talking tour across the United States and abroad. Between destinations, she found time to stop by the studio and chat with Hillary.
Fran used to write. Sheâs the author of two best-selling essay collections, Metropolitan Life and Social Studies. But she likes talking better, and has gained a following for her sharp wit and her incisive, unapologetic opinions on just about everything.
In their wide-ranging and fast-moving conversation, Hillary and Fran discuss Franâs early days scrounging for work, food, and heat in New York; the truth about âthe American Dreamâ; how to survive long-distance air travel without a smartphone or cigarettes; why Martin Scorceseâs documentaries about Fran, Public Speaking and Pretend Itâs a City, were not collaborations; and much more.
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These days, when Congress is so often paralyzed by in-fighting between the extreme and the more extreme wings of the Republican Party, itâs often up to states to fend for themselves. That puts a lot of responsibility in the hands of our governors - responsibility that some use for good, and others use for ill.
On todayâs episode, Hillary talks with two newly-minted governors who are doing everything they can to improve the lives and future prospects of the people whom they serve.
Before taking office as the first woman and first LGBTQ+ governor of Massachusetts, Maura Healey had already proved her mettleâfirst as a college and pro-basketball player, later as the Chief of the Civil Rights Division of the Attorney Generalâs Office, and then as the first openly gay Attorney General in the country. She shares her priorities with Hillary, from making life in Massachusetts more affordable, to tackling climate change, easing the migrant crisis, and encouraging young people to see themselves as future leaders.
The first public office Maryland Governor Wes Moore ever ran for is the one he now holds. But his experiences as the child of a single immigrant mother, a U.S. Army Captain, and CEO of the Robin Hood Foundation gave him his âwhyââto lift families out of poverty, promote economic growth, and lead young people to public service. He won in a landslide, making him the first Black governor of Maryland, and only the third elected Black governor anywhere in the country. He and Hillary talk about how heâs settling into the job, what heâs been able to accomplish, and why youâve got to celebrate the wins even when they come with compromises.
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When Hillary was growing up, she and her friends didnât have Judy Blume to guide them through the bewildering changes that come with puberty. She wishes they had.
When Judy began writing as a young housewife raising two children in suburban New Jersey in the late 1960s, topics like menstruation, sex, bullying, divorce, and religion were considered taboo in books for young readers. Judy changed that, with titles like Are You There God, Itâs Me, Margaret, Blubber, Deenie, and Forever.
These books struck a chord with millions of readers, but they also landed her in some hot water. Since the culture wars of the Reagan era, Judy's novels have consistently been found on the American Library Association's list of most banned books.
Today, at age 85, Judy Blume is enjoying something of a renaissance. The film adaptation of Are You There God, It's Me, Margaret came out this past spring to critical acclaim, and there's a new documentary film about her on Amazon Prime. And while she is no longer writing novels, she is still connecting with young readers, especially when they come into the nonprofit bookstore that she and her husband run in Key West, Florida.
In this wide-ranging conversation, Hillary and Judy touch on everything from comic books and sex education to book banning and the responsibility that comes with a mailbox full of letters from young people seeking guidance.
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Hillary kicks off a new season of You and Me Both in conversation with House Democratic Leader Hakeem Jeffriesâa man after her own heart when it comes to getting things done.
Leader Jeffries, the United States Representative for New Yorkâs 8th Congressional District, was a litigator and New York State Assemblyman before moving up the ladder in Congress, from chair of the House Democratic Caucus to his current role as Democratic Leader. He also served as a House Manager overseeing the first impeachment of former President Trump.
Throughout his meteoric rise, though, heâs never forgotten his Brooklyn roots â the Baptist Church, hip hop music, and the values of his civil servant parents. And he loves a good sports metaphor, as youâll hear in this wide-reaching conversation spanning his childhood, his bipartisan work on criminal justice reform, and his strategy for unifying his boisterous House caucus and refining the Democratic Partyâs message to the American people.
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Hillary is back! This season, as always, she'll be having candid, thought-provoking and sometimes humorous conversations with people she admires. She'll also be talking to her guests about one of her favorite subjects: getting things done. Weâll hear from folks in positions of power, like Democratic Leader Hakeem Jeffries and Massachusetts governor Maura Healey, but also athletes, authors, artists, and activists who are doing the work.
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You and Me Both is between seasons right now, but with the Academy Awards right around the corner, Hillary could not wait to share her conversation with multiple award-winning actor Frances McDormand.
Frances is now up for another Oscar, this time as producer of the powerful new film âWomen Talkingâ (in which she also appears). The film, directed by Sarah Polley and based on the novel by Miriam Towes, is about a group of Mennonite matriarchs who gather in a hayloft to decide, collectively, what they will do in the wake of a wave of sexual assaults committed against them by men in their community.
Hillary talks to Frances about the genesis of this project, and the challenging, universal questions posed by the film. They also look back at Francesâ remarkable careerâthe brave choices sheâs made, and the iconic roles sheâs given us, from police chief Marge Gunderson in âFargoâ to a displaced, widowed worker seeking community in âNomadlandââ and forward, to what Frances sees for herself on the horizon.
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While You and Me Both is between seasons, Hillary could not wait to share this conversation with one of her favorite actors, and people, Frances McDormand. Together, they talk about âWomen Talking,â the powerful new film Frances produced and appears in, and about Francesâs decades-long career of incredible performances on stage and screen, from police chief Marge Gunderson in âFargoâ to a displaced worker and widow in âNomadland.â Please join us for this special episode of You and Me Both, available on Tuesday, March 7th, just in time for the Academy Awards!
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For our season finale, Hillary welcomes Saturday Night Live’s Emmy Award-winning sketch comedian Kate McKinnon to the show. In her first ever appearance on a podcast, Kate and Hillary compare notes on their recent bouts with COVID-19. Then Kate talks about how she’s parlayed her social anxiety into a wildly successful career in comedy; the CGI tigers on the set of the Peacock series Joe vs. Carole (in which she plays animal rights activist Carole Baskin); and how she develops her character impressions of everyone from Justin Bieber to Jeff Sessions, and, of course, Hillary.
Then, with Kate’s help, Hillary answers listener questions on everything from her goals during her time as U.S. Senator for New York to her favorite desserts.
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In 2018, Hillary (like so many other people) discovered comedian Hannah Gadsby through her breakout Netflix special Nanette. The show shook up the comedy world by exposing the ways that even the best intentioned stand-up can inflict trauma on comedian and audience members alike when it invites us to laugh about misogyny, homophobia, fat-phobia, and other forms of hatred and prejudice. Having grown up non-gender conforming and gay in Tasmania, Australia’s deeply conservative island state, Hannah spoke from experience.
Hannah followed Nanette with another Netflix special, Douglas, which explored the aftermath of her relatively late-in-life diagnosis of autism. She will soon be touring with her latest live show, Body of Work, and just released a new memoir, Ten Steps to Nanette. Hillary was eager to talk to Hannah about how her life, and her comedy, have evolved since Nanette. As you’ll hear, they found lots of other things to talk about as well, from physical therapy to healing from trauma, and dealing with online trolls.
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Over the course of this season of the podcast, Hillary has been examining the challenges our democracy faces. Today, she looks abroad to Russiaâs brutal, unprovoked attack on Ukraine, and considers what led to this moment and whatâs at stake in this warâfor Ukraine, Russia, the United States, and the whole world.
Joining her are two experts. First, historian and journalist Anne Applebaum provides insight into Vladimir Putin and the antidemocratic figures heâs inspired in Europe and beyond. Then, we hear from political scientist and former U.S. Ambassador to Russia Michael McFaul on how we got to this moment from the fall of the former Soviet Union, what the United States can do to help Ukraine, and how to fight back against Russiaâs crackdown on truth and dissent.
Bios:
Anne Applebaum is a staff writer at The Atlantic, a journalist, and a historian whose work has largely focused on Eastern Europe and the role of democracy. She is the author of four books, including Iron Curtain: The Crushing of Eastern Europe 1944-56, for which she won the Pulitzer Prize and, most recently, Twilight of Democracy: The Seductive Lure of Authoritarianism. She lives in Warsaw and London.
Michael McFaul is professor of political science at Stanford University, and a diplomat who served at the National Security Council and as U.S. Ambassador to Russia during the Obama administration. He is also an International Affairs Analyst for NBC News and a contributing columnist to The Washington Post. His most recent book, From Cold War to Hot Peace: An American Ambassador in Putinâs Russia, was a New York Times bestseller.
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The COVID-19 pandemic has been a source of upheaval and suffering for over two years, but it has also presented us with an opportunity to try to do things differently going forwardâin our personal lives, in our communities, and in the way governments serve people.
During what looks to be a much-needed reprieve from the pandemic, Hillary turns to two brand new mayors, with different backgrounds and leadership styles, who are seizing this opportunity to transform their cities with vision and determination. First, we hear from Boston Mayor Michelle Wu, whose commitment to affordable housing, accessible transportation, and better health outcomes for all stem from her own experiences navigating dysfunctional public services for her immigrant mother with a mental health disability.
Then we turn to New York Mayor Eric Adams, a former NYPD officer, state senator, and Brooklyn Borough President who says he wants to bring back the cityâs âswaggerâ by improving the quality of life for all New Yorkers while attending to both public safety and justice.
Bios:
Michelle Wu is the first woman, the first Asian American, and the first mother to be elected Mayor of Boston. She previously served on the Boston City Council, as a member and then, in 2016, as President.
Eric Adams served with the NYPD for 22 years. In his second career as an elected official, he served as a state senator and Borough President of Brooklyn before winning the nomination for Mayor of New York in a crowded Democratic primary and going on to become New Yorkâs 110th, and only its second African American, Mayor.
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This week, Hillary continues her series on the state of our democracy. On todayâs episode, we take a look at how our courts, and our laws, are holding up under pressure from powerful interest groups.
First, we hear from Dahlia Lithwick, who has covered the Supreme Court for Slate since 1999. Dahlia shares some rather grim predictions on what we can expect from the Court this term with regard to abortion rights, gun regulations, and more. After that comes a conversation with Sherrilyn Ifill about President Bidenâs Supreme Court nominee, the Courtâs decimation of voting rights, and Sherrilynâs next project, once she steps down as President and Director-Counsel of the NAACP Legal Defense and Educational Fund this spring.
Bios:
Dahlia Lithwick is a senior editor at Slate, where she writes her award-winning âSupreme Court Dispatchesâ and âJurisprudenceâ columns and hosts Amicus, a podcast about the law and the Supreme Court. Her forthcoming book, Lady Justice: Women, the Law, and the Battle to Save America, is due out this fall.
Sherrilyn Ifill is the outgoing President and Director-Counsel of the NAACP Legal Defense and Educational Fund known for her work on voting rights, police violence, and racial justice. Previously, she taught for twenty years at the University of Maryland law school. Sherrilyn was one of TIMEâs 100 Most Influential People of the Year in 2021.
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