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  • 上周主播去了一趟利物浦,中午到,第二天下午走,暴走 24 小时,利物浦双年展,嘉宾是播客艺术有读的主播 Sammi。


    节目中提到的信息


    利物浦双年展

    https://www.biennial.com


    秘密遣返中国海员,卫报调查

    https://www.theguardian.com/news/2021/may/25/chinese-merchant-seamen-liverpool-deportations


    Liverpool International Slavery Museum

    https://www.liverpoolmuseums.org.uk/international-slavery-museum


    “火锅教堂” Liverpool Metropolitan Museum

    https://www.liverpoolmetrocathedral.org.uk


    利物浦美味轩餐厅

    https://www.meimeiliverpool.com


    利物浦奴隶贸易在线导览

    https://youtu.be/pMody0pLUAw


    探访利物浦中国城

    https://youtu.be/ZwG4t9HE6mk


    艺术家郑波主页

    http://zhengbo.org


    LUSH 利物浦旗舰店

    https://www.lush.com/uk/en/a/inside-worlds-biggest-lush-shop


    The Blue Coat

    https://www.thebluecoat.org.uk


    Monobloc 椅子

    https://www.design-museum.de/en/exhibitions/detailpages/monobloc-a-chair-for-the-world.html


    Pan African flags by Larry Achiampong

    https://www.biennial.com/2021/exhibition/artists/larry-achiampong


    利物浦 St George’s Hall

    https://www.stgeorgeshallliverpool.co.uk


    Index 系列,Xaviera Simmons

    https://www.biennial.com/2021/exhibition/artists/xaviera-simmons


    Crosby Beach Another Place, Antony Gormley

    https://www.visitliverpool.com/things-to-do/another-place-by-antony-gormley-p160981


    Tate Liverpool

    https://www.tate.org.uk/visit/tate-liverpool


    Don McCullin 摄影展,Tate Liverpool

    https://www.tate.org.uk/whats-on/tate-liverpool/exhibition/don-mccullin


    餐厅 The Italian Club Fish

    https://www.theitalianclubfamily.com/the-italian-club-fish/


    益康糯米利物浦照片集

    https://photos.app.goo.gl/DFAih6Dbqhvuz5FR6


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  • 欢迎大家收听文化土豆第200期节目! 这期节目之前有两位听众发来的问候 ❤️。这周轮到我们的看老片的新栏目“三刷”,我们看的东方电影是小津安二郎的「东京物语」Tokyo Story,西方电影是得过六次奥斯卡最佳导演奖的约翰·福特的「青山翠谷」How Green Was My Valley。


    节目中提到的作品信息


    电影

    东京物语,小津安二郎

    https://movie.douban.com/subject/1291568/


    非虚构

    我是开豆腐店的,我只做豆腐,小津安二郎

    https://book.douban.com/subject/22542435/


    电影

    东京家族,山田洋次

    https://movie.douban.com/subject/5996409/


    电影

    茶泡饭之味,小津安二郎

    https://movie.douban.com/subject/1306183/


    文章

    日本美學淺談:「物哀」的秘密

    https://www.tsunagujapan.com/zh-hant/mono-no-aware/


    电影

    How Green Was My Valley/青山翠谷,John Ford

    https://movie.douban.com/subject/1293322/


    电影

    城南旧事,吴贻弓

    https://movie.douban.com/subject/1300894/


    编辑推荐


    电影

    一路北上 Long Way Up,Apple TV+

    https://movie.douban.com/subject/35165400/


    非虚构

    製造反革命: 柳幸福案與文革時期的基層法制生態,王海光

    http://t.hk.uy/uBq



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  • 1921-1932年陆续出版的捷克长篇小说「好兵帅克历险记」The Good Soldier Švejk 讲述了一个性格温顺,头脑简单的中年男人“帅克”在第一次世界大战中假装积极参军的历险故事。这本书的的插图是由艺术家 Josef Lada 完成,全书一共三卷半,作者哈谢克 Jaroslav Hašek 在小说完成前心脏病去世,当时不到40岁。


    节目中提到的作品信息


    小说

    好兵帅克历险记(人民文学),哈谢克

    https://book.douban.com/subject/26786086/


    诗集

    世界美如斯,雅罗斯拉夫·赛弗尔特

    https://book.douban.com/subject/1469414/


    电影

    好兵帅克(1957)

    https://movie.douban.com/subject/1458187/


    电影

    西线无战事(1930)

    https://movie.douban.com/subject/1295116/


    播客

    一战百年特别节目,文化土豆

    https://youtu.be/xBff_Dvaj_c




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  • 这期“调戏”栏目我们分享在美国 Oregon Shakespeare Festival 2018 年上演的美版「窦娥冤」Snow in Midsummer。这部剧是基于我们的主播 Gigi 受英国 Royal Shakespeare Company 委托翻译的元杂剧剧本,由美国剧作家 Frances Ya-chu Cowhig(高雅竹)改编,Justin Audibert 导演。


    节目中提到的作品信息:


    舞台剧

    Snow in Midsummer,Frances Cowhig

    https://www.osfashland.org/en/productions/2021-digital-plays/d-snow-in-midsummer.aspx


    元杂剧

    感天动地窦娥冤,关汉卿

    https://www.shiwenlu.com/qu/68812.html


    戏剧节

    Oregon Shakespeare Festival

    https://www.osfashland.org


    翻译计划

    Chinese Classics Translation Project

    https://www.rsc.org.uk/about-us/our-work-in-china/chinese-classics-translation-project


    仙侠剧

    陈情令,郑伟文

    https://movie.douban.com/subject/27195020/


    动画

    魔道祖师,墨香铜臭

    https://movie.douban.com/subject/27015848/



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  • 公元前431年,Euripides 的 Medea 首次在雅典的酒神节演出,观众可能预期看到的悲剧是“妈妈再爱我一次”,但是剧作家给到雅典观众的,确是一个母亲冰冷的复仇逻辑,这个故事想必在当时的雅典造成了不小的丑闻,在三出参与竞赛的戏剧中排名第三。在希腊男人的世界里,没有什么比一个喜欢搞事的聪明女人更可怕的事情,Medea 可能是希腊女人中最聪明的一个,Medea 当然在成为历史上最可怕母亲之前,早已因为协助 Jason 获取金羊毛名声在外,一个危险、聪明,来自异乡的巫女。因为 Euripdes 的这部作品,Medea 成为了戏剧史上最不朽的女性角色,在两千多年的历史中,大部分时间由男性扮演。我们今天讨论的Meda是NTLive 2014年版本的,出演 Medea的是最近辞世的英国演员,Helen McCrory 海伦·麦克洛瑞。


    节目中提到的作品信息


    话剧

    美狄亚/Medea,欧里庇得斯/Euripides,NTLive

    https://movie.douban.com/subject/26329520/


    播客

    文化土豆聊浴血黑帮

    https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/id1243945491?i=1000451488752


    播客

    文化土豆聊国土安全

    https://podcasts.apple.com/ph/podcast/id1243945491?i=1000475410922


    美剧

    亿万 Billions,HBO

    https://movie.douban.com/subject/26200198/


    英剧

    狼厅,BBC

    https://movie.douban.com/subject/25823904/


    话剧

    俄狄浦斯王,索福克勒斯

    https://book.douban.com/subject/1076330/


    话剧

    俄瑞斯忒亚,埃斯库罗斯

    http://dwz.date/eYpH


    非虚构

    诗学,亚里士多德

    https://book.douban.com/subject/1036446/


    剧本

    费德尔/Phaedra,拉辛/Racine

    https://book.douban.com/subject/3237917/


    游戏

    刺客信条奥德赛/AC Odyssey,Ubisoft

    https://www.douban.com/game/30237482/


    油画

    Medea about to Kill her Children/Medée furious, Eugene Delacroix

    https://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search/702769


    播客

    调戏贝克特「克拉普最后的碟带」

    https://podcasts.apple.com/podcast/id1243945491?i=1000510992874


    原声带

    Medea,Goldfrapp

    https://youtu.be/kZQ1_Xelb_o


    电影

    爱 Amour, Michael Haneke

    https://movie.douban.com/subject/4798707/


    电影

    Downfall/帝国的毁灭,Oliver Hirschbiegel

    https://movie.douban.com/subject/1309115/


    关于阿波罗于酒神的意向出自

    悲剧的诞生,尼采

    https://book.douban.com/subject/1063852/


    小说

    法国中尉的女人,John Fowles

    https://book.douban.com/subject/27071333/


    剧本

    西厢记,王实莆

    https://book.douban.com/subject/1016631/


    剧本

    窦娥冤,关汉卿

    https://book.douban.com/subject/1023595/


    剧本

    赵氏孤儿,纪君祥

    https://book.douban.com/subject/1023595/


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  • 这期是我们分享经典老片的 #三刷 栏目第二期,我们分享两部大名鼎鼎,值得七刷八刷的「公民凯恩」和「小城之春」。更正:节目中益康糯米提到的 The War of the Worlds 不是电影,是 1938 年 Orson Welles 导演和主演的根据 HG Wells 同名小说改编的广播剧。


    节目中提到的作品信息


    电影

    「公民凯恩」Citizen Kane,Orson Welles

    https://movie.douban.com/subject/1292288/


    广播剧

    War of the worlds, Orson Welles

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_War_of_the_Worlds_(1938_radio_drama)


    电影

    「小城之春」,费穆

    https://movie.douban.com/subject/1323746/


    电影

    「斩经堂」,费穆

    https://movie.douban.com/subject/2295850/


    电影

    「古中国之歌」,费穆

    https://movie.douban.com/subject/2295855/



    编辑推荐


    非虚构

    「梦余说梦」,黄爱玲

    https://book.douban.com/subject/30230104/


    电影

    「狼山喋血记」,费穆

    https://movie.douban.com/subject/1461808/


    电影

    「青山翠谷」How Green Was My Valley,John Ford

    https://movie.douban.com/subject/1293322/


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  • 这周我们 unpack 一本攻击当今大部知识分子不假思索信封为真理的人文主义,可谓是一本逆向思维的当代经典,英国哲学家约翰·格雷 John Gray 的 Straw Dogs 稻草狗。这里是这期节目的预览部分,完整节目一共 31 分钟,只有在文化土豆的官网 culturepotato.com,购买赞助人计划后,在 Unpack 栏目页面点击收听。

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  • 这期误读会我们分享捷克作家米兰·昆德拉Milan Kundera1990年出版的小说「不朽」。嘉宾是张宇凌和高高。


    昆德拉的小说作品分别是:


    「玩笑」(1967年)

    「好笑的愛」(短篇小说集,1968年)

    「生活在他方」(1969年)

    「告别圆舞曲」(1976年)

    「笑忘書」(又譯「笑忘錄」)(1978年)

    「生命中不能承受之輕」(1984年)

    「不朽」(1990年)

    「慢」(1995年)

    「身份」(1998年)

    「無知」(2000年)

    「慶祝無意義」(2013年以意大利文發表,中譯本2014出版)


    节目中提到的作品信息:


    小说

    Immortality 「不朽」,米兰·昆德拉

    https://book.douban.com/subject/1060117


    小说

    The Unbearable Lightness of Being 「生命中不能承受之轻」,米兰·昆德拉

    https://book.douban.com/subject/1433377


    电影

    布拉格之恋,丹尼尔·戴-刘易斯 / 朱丽叶·比诺什 

    https://movie.douban.com/subject/1291859


    非虚构

    米兰·昆德拉:一种作家人生,让–多米尼克•布里埃 

    https://book.douban.com/subject/35285924/


    口述历史

    二手时间,S. A. 阿列克谢耶维奇

    https://book.douban.com/subject/26704403/


    德剧

    德国八九年 Deutschland 89,Sundance TV

    https://movie.douban.com/subject/30454891/


    报道

    Report Says Acclaimed Czech Writer Informed on a Supposed Spy, NYTimes

    https://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/14/world/europe/14czech.html?smid=url-share


    播客

    Unpack 以赛亚柏林的「浪漫主义的根源」,文化土豆

    https://culturepotato.com/unpack-the-roots-of-romanticism


    编辑推荐:


    英剧

    Line of Duty/「重任在肩」第六季, BBC

    https://movie.douban.com/subject/27062703/


    杂志

    「三联生活周刊无聊研究」

    4.12日出版


    小说

    「克拉拉与太阳」,石黑一雄



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  • 这周调戏栏目分享的剧目是这部美国剧作家 Augusut Wilson 奥古斯特·威尔逊 1984 年的话剧「莱妮大妈的黑臀」Ma Rainey’s Black Bottom。这部话剧最近被 Netflix 翻拍成为同名电影,也正好是今年奥斯卡奖最佳男主提名,Chuck Boseman (漫威海报扮演者),生前最后一部作品,电影的中文名叫「蓝调天后」。


    威尔逊以编年史的方式创作了10部发生在匹兹堡的系列话剧,分别展现了20世纪美国黑人在每一个10年的历史。Ma Rainey’s Black Bottom 的故事发生在 1920 年代。


    威尔逊的匹兹堡系列话剧 Pittsburg Cycle分别是:


    1900s: Gem of the Ocean (2003)

    1910s: Joe Turner’s Come and Gone (1986)

    1920s: Ma Rainey’s Black Bottom (1984)

    1930s: The Piano Lesson (1987)

    1940s: Seven Guitars (1995)

    1950s: Fences (1985)

    1960s: Two Trains Running (1990)

    1970s: Jitney (1982)

    1980s: King Hedley II (1999)

    1990s: Radio Golf (2005)


    节目中提到的作品信息:


    电影

    「蓝调天后」Ma Rainey’s Black Bottom, Netflix

    https://movie.douban.com/subject/34439631/


    电影

    「冲出康普顿」Straight Outta Compton, F Gary Gray

    https://movie.douban.com/subject/3608742/


    电影

    「为奴十二年」12 Years a Slave,Steve McQueen

    https://movie.douban.com/subject/6879185/


    电影

    「白宫管家」The Butler,Lee Daniels

    https://movie.douban.com/subject/3292949/


    美术馆

    National Museum of African American History & Culture, Smithsonian

    https://nmaahc.si.edu


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  • 这周我们 Launch 一个新的月播栏目叫 #三刷,每次重温两部历久弥新的电影作品。这个栏目的的常设主播搭配是晏礼中和樊夏,我们准备先做10期看看。


    节目中提到的作品信息


    电影

    少林寺,李连杰

    https://movie.douban.com/subject/1301198/


    电影

    佐罗,阿兰·德龙

    https://movie.douban.com/subject/1291866/


    编辑推荐


    时装秀

    Celine Homme “Teen Knight Poem”

    https://youtu.be/JXEjb7VpkjI


    美剧

    基地恶灵第一季,AMC

    https://movie.douban.com/subject/24722767/


    小说

    中士还乡,阎连科

    https://book.douban.com/subject/26337746/


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  • 玛格丽特·米德(Margaret Mead)可能是全世界最有名的人类学家,她在 1925 年前往南太平洋岛国的萨摩耶岛(Samoa),融入当地部落生活,在调查了萨摩亚人的生活后写成的一本「萨摩亚人的成年」(Coming of Age in Samoa)1928 年在美国出版引起轰动。米德记录下的萨萨摩亚少女,在青春期就有开放自由的性生活,同性恋情,晚婚,婚外恋和和离婚并不让人惊讶,而且似乎有着比文明社会人们更健康的心理。在过去的近一百年间,虽然这本书一直饱受争议,但是米德的这本书不仅改变了人类学的研究方式,似乎还像先知一样,指明了现代人性观念的变化方。这里是这期节目的预览部分,完整节目一共 45 分钟,只有在文化土豆的官网 culturepotato.com,购买赞助人计划后,在 Unpack 栏目页面点击收听。

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  • 这期节目我们和上海的樊夏连线聊聊赵婷的金球奖、金狮奖桂冠得主 Nomadland 和 Netflix 上的新黑白电影 Malcolm & Marie。


    节目中提到的作品信息


    电影

    Nomadland 无伊之地,赵婷

    https://movie.douban.com/subject/30458949/


    非虚构

    Nomadland,Jessica Bruder

    https://book.douban.com/subject/27146694/


    电影

    骑士 The Rider,赵婷

    https://movie.douban.com/subject/27012772/


    音乐视频

    Elegy for the Arctic,Ludovico Einaudi

    https://youtu.be/2DLnhdnSUVs


    航海Vlogger

    Sailing La Vagabond

    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCZdQjaSoLjIzFnWsDQOv4ww


    电影

    Malcolm & Marie/马尔科姆与玛丽, Netflix

    https://movie.douban.com/subject/35135958/


    电影

    婚姻故事/Marriage Story,Noah Baumbach

    https://movie.douban.com/celebrity/1049678/


    编辑推荐


    动画短片

    Lost & Found

    https://www.lostandfound.film


    纪录片

    Fake Famous 虚名,Nick Bilton

    https://movie.douban.com/subject/35337704/


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  • 这周调戏栏目我们看看爱尔兰剧作家,1969年诺贝尔文学奖得主塞缪尔·贝克特 Samuel Beckett 的话剧作品,但不是「等待戈多」!而是「克拉普最后的录音带」—— 一部很多男性老戏骨在演艺生涯尾声都会尝试发挥和解读的独角戏。嘉宾是Gigi和方曌。我们观看的是 John Hurts 2000 录制的版本。


    克拉普的最后碟带 Krapp’s Last Tape 观剧链接

    https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1Cx411p7Zm


    其他链接也可以在 YouTube 上搜索到


    节目中提到的其他作品信息


    Samuel Beckett 的话剧


    Krapp’s Last Tape/克拉普最后的录音带

    https://movie.douban.com/subject/2243290


    Waiting for Godot/等待戈多

    https://book.douban.com/subject/26747147


    Endgame/终局

    https://book.douban.com/subject/26747152


    Happy Days/开心的日子

    https://book.douban.com/subject/26747155


    视频

    Harold Pinter on Samuel Beckett

    https://youtu.be/-N99S8n2TiA


    小说

    Effi Briest,Theodor Fontane

    https://book.douban.com/subject/1880661/


    小说

    The man in the gray flannel suit/穿灰色法兰绒套装的男人,David Sloan

     Wilson

    https://book.douban.com/subject/25838255/


    小说

    The Mandarins/名士风流,Simone de Beauvoir

    https://book.douban.com/subject/1079208/


    电影

    哥斯拉(1954), 本多猪四郎 

    https://movie.douban.com/subject/2059276/


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  • 很多人都看过铁叔饰演的「故园风雨后」,但是也许你并不了解英国作家伊夫林·沃的拿手好戏其实是他在加入天主教之前的写得那些精干恶毒的讽刺小说。这期误读会我们选择了一篇结合了婚外恋、游记、还甚至有点“黑镜”的「一抔尘土」,故事发生在英格兰乡村古宅、伦敦的绅士俱乐部和亚马逊的原始丛林里。嘉宾是高高和张宇凌。


    文化土豆的的一些其他节目也和伊夫林·沃及其时代有关:


    一战停战日百年纪念特辑

    https://podcasts.apple.com/podcast/id1243945491?i=1000423512699

    威廉·莫里斯与工美运动

    https://podcasts.apple.com/podcast/id1243945491?i=1000460912527



    节目中提到的作品信息


    小说

    一抔尘土/A Handful of Dust,Evelyn Waugh

    https://book.douban.com/subject/27045891


    长诗

    荒原 Wasteland,TS Eliot

    https://book.douban.com/subject/6440343


    报告文学

    The Coronatino of Haile Selassie, Evelyn Waugh

    https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/883282


    小说

    故园风雨后/Brideshead Revisited,Evelyn Waugh

    https://book.douban.com/subject/26975428


    英剧故园风雨后(1981)

    https://movie.douban.com/subject/1439497/


    电影故园风雨后(2008)

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    衰落与瓦解/Decline and Fall,Evelyn Waugh

    https://book.douban.com/subject/21346006/


    小说

    独家新闻/Scoop,Evelyn Waugh

    https://book.douban.com/subject/27045190/


    法剧

    Engrenages(共八季)

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  • 这期春节期间发布的节目,主播和 Richard 一起分享 Hoxton Books 书店的装修工作,特别是不同的书架、桌椅、吊灯背后的故事。这个 pop-up 系列是通过简单慢速英文录制,文字信息由 Otter.AI 整理。


    节目中提到的信息链接


    606 Universal Bookshelf

    wiloyem255@donmah.com


    纪录片 RAMS

    https://www.hustwit.com/rams


    Krossing 书架

    https://www.kriptonite.com/en/products/krossing


    Tylko Type 2 书架

    https://tylko.com/shelf/bookcases/1504423/


    Tiptoe 桌腿

    https://www.tiptoe.fr/en/table-legs/


    Bertoia Molded Shell Side Chair

    https://www.knoll.com/product/bertoia-molded-side-chair


    Dr Glob Chair by Philippe Starck

    http://collections.vam.ac.uk/item/O144604/dr-glob-chair-philippe-starck/dr-glob-chair-starck-philippe/ 


    文字信息:


    Yifan 

    Hi, Richard


    Yifan 

    So what are we going to talk about this week? 


    Richard 

    Well, actually, let me let me wish everyone a Happy New Year. Oh, right. Happy, happy, happy New Year of the ox. Yeah. Thank you. Happy New Year, everyone. So this week, we're gonna talk about the shop design. So the format is going to be slightly different. In that, I will be asking you fun, a few questions about how the design of the shop came about. Just a little update on the situation here.


    Richard 

    Real lockdown, the country is still under national lockdown, which means that only only food shops could open pretty much.


    Richard 

    Which means we and we still don't even though the numbers have come down. We still don't know when we're going to open. So we're waiting.


    Yifan 

    In the meantime, I think in Scotland, bookshops are open. Oh, really? Oh, you didn't know? Yeah. No, I was not aware. But I've not been keeping a close eye on Scotland. They just had more snow than us. That's That's all I know.


    Richard 

    So maybe, maybe you find you could just provide us with a brief description of the location and the space where the shop is.


    Yifan 

    Thanks, Richard. So if you listen to our very first episode, we did describe roughly the layout and the location of the shop. The shop is in an area called Hoxton in London. And it's next door to a Chinese supermarket.


    Yifan 

    The building is actually not one of those you see in their London Film. Like Notting Hill, it's more like a building you would see in a second tier City in, in China, I guess, but probably smaller, less.


    Richard 

    It's, it's a modern building.


    Yifan 

    Now you say it that way. It's a five storey, what 10 years old, 10 years old, five storey tall apartment block in a busy road. And so on the ground floor, you have what's called commercial units. So within this apartment block, there are two commercial units. One is a Chinese supermarket. And the other is going to be a half Chinese bookshop within our commercial unit Chinese bookshop.


    Unknown Speaker 

    Well, it's kind of like a Chinese British run bookshop. Within our unit,


    Unknown Speaker 

    we are sharing the book The shop space with a with an art gallery. So we only occupy one third of the space. And the art gallery occupies two thirds the space, but we share the same entrance.


    Unknown Speaker 

    If that makes sense.


    Unknown Speaker 

    There's just one entrance for both. So you have you enter the gallery to enter the bookshop. Yes, exactly. So when you enter if you turn left is the bookshop. If you turn right is the gallery ish. Maybe I should also say something about the floor of our the our half of the shop is about 15 to 20 square metres. And we have fairly high a fairly high ceiling so from floor to ceiling is about four there is Yeah, shall we say? four metres? three metres, at least three point something. Yeah, it's a pretty high ceiling. Yeah. So yeah, 3.5 metres. But the shape of the space is a triangle. It's one of those classic triangles as Rachel would say, you study in a trigonometry class. So the road runs along I would say p pata news I bought a news hypotony news. And then we have an along that side. Let me maybe just use Chinese to describe this. So the triangle is like a different like a ghost ankles, the shell Dominica, semiotic Chung, okay. So a hypotenuse is the shroud was a bit okay. And what chord adjacent is the Jericho sank was the neighbour and then the opposite side is the Was it the right the right angle sides are opposite the opposite the hypotenuse? Yes, this is great. This is like Pythagoras theorem, a squared plus b squared equals c squared. Exactly. So


    Unknown Speaker 

    Basically imagine hypotenuse is the seat is the? Yes. So imagine the voice is three, four and five metres long, which roughly it probably is it's slightly bigger than that. Yeah, yeah, that's the class. Yeah, Pythagoras. theorem try Yes. And the opposite side is the three, the adjacent side is the four. And the hypotenuse side is the five.


    Unknown Speaker 

    That a 10 out. Okay, so that's a space. And when you go into the shop, you go through the smallest acute angle, kind of, right? Again, it's a gap in the wall, never mind like a little, rather than in the middle of a side, it's on the side of a side, if that makes sense. Basically, as you go in, and maybe you want to explain that one in Chinese,


    Unknown Speaker 

    it's already very confused as you go into the shop. On your left, it's the hypotenuse. And it's got a window in the middle, and that's facing the busy road. And then on your right is the adjacent side, that's just like a wall that's dividing our bookshop and the shop next door. And then we have the opposite side, you have another wall.


    Unknown Speaker 

    That that's the layout. Is that essentially, it sounds like a lot of wolves to put put bookshelves on exactly. Basically this. There's one takeaway from all this. And what was your question? So he did the desert? Yeah, yeah. So essentially, what was what we went back, but essentially, the question was, who did the design planning? Okay. So there were two designs. So one, we consulted a friend in Beijing, who's a who's a interior designer. And he gave a, you know, very simple layout, which actually looks pretty much like much like what we got in the end, like what we got in the end. But what happened was, we also engaged a London designer, who's also a friend and practically worked for free on this. And I wouldn't say she designed the shop, she walked through, you know, with us the different options. And yeah, she guided us with design work, I would say helped us to choose colours and


    Unknown Speaker 

    etc. and sounds fine. Yeah. Yeah. And then should we name checker or name checker practice? Yeah. What is her practice called?


    Unknown Speaker 

    Gatti? Ruth Rhodes? Yes. I think they won some awards recently. Oh, yeah. That's right there. She had all sorts of Yeah, she had. She had an award. At the end of her email address, there was an award for some young architect. Yeah, yes, yeah, that sort of thing.


    Unknown Speaker 

    But I think they never did a bookshop project. And that's why she was very happy to work on this project for next to nothing fee. So that she would, you know, have this in her portfolio. Right to to,


    Unknown Speaker 

    to show off the


    Unknown Speaker 

    show for versatility. So as you walk into the bookshop, what you first notice is you are facing a massive three metre wide bookshelf. And that's kind of a wooden bookshelf, then you notice a round table.


    Unknown Speaker 

    And then you notice pendant seating light hanging above the round table.


    Unknown Speaker 

    And on two sides, you have these


    Unknown Speaker 

    hanging shelves, that's not standing on the floor, on the two sides. That's the main thing. And on the three wars, we have two tones. So on the


    Unknown Speaker 

    top one metre, about one metre, it's white, and then


    Unknown Speaker 

    from floor to up to say 2.2 metres is a very light grey. And we have positioned our bookshelves such that you have a top line, the grey line runs neatly on top of all the bookshelves.


    Unknown Speaker 

    And let's say above the above the bookshelves are white. Yes, the walls are white. Yeah.


    Unknown Speaker 

    Again, making something very simple, very confusing. It's what we're doing here. And we have two chairs as well. So all we have is 12345677 items. So three sharps, one table, two chairs and one light. That's it


    Unknown Speaker 

    right


    Unknown Speaker 

    This This was all furniture that the architectures I mean, the the most important things are the bookshelves. So the architects, we wanted to do this thing as cheaply as possible. And when I first that's the wish, and when I first Yes, imagine the bookshop, I thought we could spend 1000 pounds 2000 maximum on just getting a basic bookshop up and running. Right? So our architect told us the cheapest option would be to buy 10 IKEA Billy bookcases


    Unknown Speaker 

    and the Billy set and then just set them up like soldiers all over all around over all around covering up all the walls. Yeah, a BNC that will look ugly for sure. Because you have you can't choose the colour and then or the each individual bookshelf they will be slightly wobbly. They won't line out straight.


    Unknown Speaker 

    Yeah, they will be flush. So what happens is the architect proposed that a carpenter would what's called a box out so to build fake walls above the Billy bookcase. So it looks like we have the Billy bookcases are living inside the walls. Yeah, like building built in. Yeah. Built in bookcase. Yeah. And that boxing out alone is like 4000 pounds or something. Wow. Or maybe 2000 pounds. It's a lot of money. But anyway, it's about like a lot of money for what was basically air behind it. Yes. For a bit basically, you're actually shrinking the room. Right? You're building additional wars. Yeah, you're shrinking the room in a room that's not that big, you know, huge to start off. Exactly. And then we can build 10 Billy bookcases as we write, we actually tried this option and literally try this, didn't we? Yeah. So successful.


    Unknown Speaker 

    The architect I think they told us, you might want to buy one billet bookcase and then put it up, and then see if you like it really look like Yeah. And, and I think they realise that. Yeah, there's a good chance we won't like it. And we didn't. Right. Right. So they set us on the kind of you could try this. We don't think you're gonna like it, but you know, try anyway. Yeah. And, but they're different option is they would design like custom make bookshelves twice, which are going to be also very expensive. So that would have been more than the 4000 pounds to enclose the top of the bookcase for sure. That would be I would say twice as much. I did say in the beginning, I wanted a minimalist look. Just the focus should be the books and not the shelves. Right? That's true. And in the book shelving world there is a very famous, what's called a modular bookshelf. 606 universal shelving system. It's designed by Dieter Rams. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Dieter Rams is very famous. I would say he's the Jonathan Ive Yes, a knife took a load of inspiration of Yeah, like he's like Jonathan Ives God. Right. Okay. I didn't know that the calculator design an app is basically just copy and pasted from a Dieter Rams calculator design. Right? So for people who didn't know Dieter Rams was probably working in the 60s and 70s. And maybe late even later, German. He worked for German, a German company, brown brown. That still makes toothbrushes and kitchen staff and shaving razors, etc. But they did a great documentary. We could link


    Unknown Speaker 

    link about ram RAMs, Rams. I think it's just called Rams Rams. Yeah. Yeah, we could link in the notes. I don't know.


    Unknown Speaker 

    But do know that back then. To compare it to, to Jonathan Ive of apple. Brown. Made loads of electronic goods, right like they made Yeah. record players, speakers. Sure. Yeah. calculators alarm clocks, which back then? Probably high tech.


    Unknown Speaker 

    So yeah, yeah, they were like yeah, what you know what I noticed is brown is reviving a Dieter ram kind of ish design of speakers. And that's interesting because, yeah, because now I think the brown products they don't really look as interesting.


    Unknown Speaker 

    I nearly did. I think what years ago? Exactly. So they handed the the baton to I would say Mooji. And apple.


    Unknown Speaker 

    Hmm. And yeah, probably, but then then the Rams also does this v2 thing nowadays, that's his, that's his outfit. This is what sort of going back to the 606 shelf? Yes. Which is now sold by a company called v2. But then, you know, it's massively expensive, isn't it? I mean, we could buy a lot of books without money


    Unknown Speaker 

    to buy three to fit our bookshop with Fitz who would cost a Tesla basically


    Unknown Speaker 

    right a model three it's a cheaper Tesla Yeah.


    Unknown Speaker 

    Yeah. And but in the end, you know, we found cheaper options. Yeah. That you found these cheaper options or Yeah, I did. Yeah. And right because the architect really was was going to be too expensive designing his own shelves or Yeah, her own shelves. I found two separate things. I basically googled you know alternatives to Dieter Rams bookshelves.


    Unknown Speaker 

    Alternatives to Dieter Rams. bookshelves. Yeah. And exactly. And all the options are still too expensive. What happened was then I went to a furniture shop in London. that sells nice furniture. It's Conrad Conrad shop. And of course, yeah, yeah. Who who started the shop is Terrence Terrence Conlon who died last year, didn't he? He died not that long ago. Was he a designer himself? Or is he just a dealer? That's a good question. Anyway, I think but basically known as a as a as a furniture seller than a furniture maker. Yeah. So he sells a lot of minimalist furniture, let's say, from continental Europe. And so in his shop, I found this


    Unknown Speaker 

    what's called a crossing shelf by an Italian company and Milan Milan based company called kryptonite. Right? And it's super minimal. It's even more minimal than Dieter Rams, bookshelves and rave. And it's a lot cheaper. It's still expensive, but it's a lot cheaper. So then a 606. Yeah, so what happened was, if we were to buy crossing shops for all three wars,


    Unknown Speaker 

    that would be too expensive.


    Unknown Speaker 

    I so for the longest war. So this is why we've got two different sets of shelves in this bookshop, you know, yeah. you'd imagine you just have one kind of bookcase. Yeah.


    Unknown Speaker 

    So basically, as you walk into the bookshelf on the left and right hand side, you have this very minimalist shelf that's floating on the wall. And then right the shelf that's facing you, it's a floor standing. It's kind of like a billy bookshelf. But you know, it's a it's probably nicer looking. And that's a lot cheaper. And I thought it's better to have something that contrasts that looks totally different than, you know, to similar type of bookshops.


    Unknown Speaker 

    Okay, yeah. break some of the break some of the uniformity. Yes, exactly. So, so that's our bookshops. And I must say the the Niam the architects in it and ended up complimenting you and your choice of of bookcases, and in fact, also showed the design to a friend of mine who was an turns out to be an interior designer, and he was he was amazed at the look of these at least the first bookshelf. Yeah. That went in. So So that's, that's a bookshelf called telco it's a Polish company. And they advertised on Instagram. So Oh, maybe it's in Pinterest. Yeah, I think post is a great source once you you look for bookshelves and then you click on the pictures you use save some you like then they work out your taste and then advertise to you.


    Unknown Speaker 

    And


    Unknown Speaker 

    and these telco bookshelves, basically you can on their web website, you can say, you can completely customise how wide how tall, how many shelves you want, do you want doors, and then once you have the design, they tell you the price you pay, then they produce it and ship it to you. And everything is super simple to assemble. You just do it yourself. Yeah. So it's like really simple bespoke. Yeah. Okay, I would say on our bookshelf, still


    Unknown Speaker 

    cost over 4000 pounds. So it's still right. So we're double the original idea, right? Like the original 2000 pound idea was sort of double that. Yes. But we're not like, given what we just talked about, we could have been way beyond 4000 pounds. Yeah, at this stage. Yeah. I don't know I, because we're going to sell books. And we also want to be able to sell other items as well. Because the margins on books are quite thin. And so we don't want to limit our options. So we want the bookshop to look fancy, kind of fancy, not fancy to look tasteful. And so that we can sell other stuff as well. So I guess that's why we overspent a bit on ice shelves. Yeah. Right. Okay. I didn't want two people to walk in and think this shop, you know, is a budget shop, and they didn't feel like spending money.


    Unknown Speaker 

    Indeed, yeah. Yeah. That's,


    Unknown Speaker 

    that's


    Unknown Speaker 

    retail psychology here. Exactly.


    Unknown Speaker 

    Is that I mean, anything else you'd like to add to all the various bookshelves? Nope. What about you? Okay. Short, big? Because, I mean, beyond shelves, you there's there's a table in the middle of the space. And a future couple of chairs. Yeah. Now, is that is that just combined to form a, some sort of workstation? I mean, what's going on there? Yeah. Because you need to sit somewhere, right. You're going to work in the shop. And yeah, that's basically your your desk and your desk. And yeah, maybe you can talk about the two chairs. And, and then I write the table. Yeah, yes, a couple of couple of


    Unknown Speaker 

    couple of random chairs which were


    Unknown Speaker 

    provided on a long term loan from my father's company.


    Unknown Speaker 

    They seem to have a collection of chairs. And as a few years ago, they moved offices, they move to smaller offices, it means that they had to reduce their collection of chairs, they can add too many chairs for the new smaller premises. So I asked if we could you borrow a couple for our space because I thought they probably fit in quite nicely.


    Unknown Speaker 

    So out the the chair collection, we have a better, hairy better tire moulded shell side chair. Which one is that? Oh, that's the yellow one. Yeah. Yeah. With the polished Chrome Frame finish. And that's apparently 1960 design. Yeah. Harry bertoia. And then the, the turquoise one


    Unknown Speaker 

    is a Phillip stock, Dr. globe model, or Dr. glubb, isn't he? Which one's the turquoise one? I don't even remember that. Look, now. Is it turquoise green, you know, with amazing colours, but that I just somebody says because blue. The yellow one is so yellow. That's the only one I remember. Okay, so there's a blue chair. I see. And what's nice green was turquoise. I don't know it's green. Let's say it's green. It's probably green. It's probably too green to be turquoise. My mistake. And, and what he likes is Dr. glob, sorry, what legs? Does the grill? Yeah, what legs they have? It's got


    Unknown Speaker 

    aluminium. Okay, so the rear legs are aluminium. But the front legs are plastic. Are they so is this from the 80s 90s this is Yeah. 1988. Okay, I said she remember when my father got that one? Yeah, it's dead. Exciting. Yeah.


    Unknown Speaker 

    Anyway, so.


    Unknown Speaker 

    So, thank you. Thank you to thank you to them for the for the loan of the chairs. Yeah.


    Unknown Speaker 

    Which of course, means that now one can sit down.


    Unknown Speaker 

    But I would like to just add those two chairs are mighty uncomfortable to sit on. Really? Yes.


    Unknown Speaker 

    Gosh,


    Unknown Speaker 

    right.


    Unknown Speaker 

    We're gonna need to pad them out with something. I don't know. Yeah. But they look nice. Yeah, they look very, very nice. Yeah. But that's the thing though. These designers you know, they make chairs and then this kind of like, I don't know, I think I think most tears are not designed to be sat on you. No, no.


    Unknown Speaker 

    So


    Unknown Speaker 

    the law I mean, the last thing I was gonna ask you about it.


    Unknown Speaker 

    The space so the thing that sort of crowns the whole space is is the hanging light in the centre, which is a is quite the showpiece. Where did you find that event? So that I found in a


    Unknown Speaker 

    little it's kind of like, Is it like


    Unknown Speaker 

    a flying open book? Yes. Sort of half bird half book. Yeah. It's like a metal sculpture. It's quite, quite airy and light and hung from two pieces of very thin steel cables. from the ceiling. Yeah. So it looks like you have a book opening up. Yeah.


    Unknown Speaker 

    Where'd that come from? Just walking past a secondhand shop. In right, yeah, somewhere. I saw the thing before I knew we were going to have this bookshop, bookshop and I wanted yet light. And that light was very expensive. It's, I wrote it down somewhere. It's nearly 900 pounds. Right? So I thought, okay, that's out of the question that will be too extravagant.


    Unknown Speaker 

    But when we had, you know, have this project, then we then I thought, okay, so we need something interesting in the shop to make it instagrammable. I thought that's exactly what I thought, you know, this is the only thing I thought people might come in, even as they walk past us in the street. It might catch their attention. And do you think do you think they'll wonder if we got any of those things on sale?


    Unknown Speaker 

    Yeah, I'm sure. Like, if I saw it, I would ask. Yeah, yeah. And I did ask about, you know, the dealer, the secondhand furniture dealer, and he told me that this is probably to his knowledge, a unique piece. That was designed by a Swedish designer. I don't have the name for some clients in the 60s. Right, right. Right. Right. So we need to do a bit of research. Yeah, that that was his sales. Research. Yeah.


    Unknown Speaker 

    Okay. Well, we didn't talk about the table.


    Unknown Speaker 

    Yeah, what's happening with the table, it's the proudest achievement I have. So it's a it's a circular round table. And


    Unknown Speaker 

    again, it's from Instagram, there is a French company called tip toe, they make the technical term I think, is called f clamp, table legs. So a clamp is something


    Unknown Speaker 

    that holds or holds or grabs something. So these table legs is like a letter F. And then you can actually fit the F opening


    Unknown Speaker 

    to any tabletop that you may have yourself and then you can screw it tight. So in basically like a workman would use f clamps to clamp anything, but these ones are actually nice looking. And


    Unknown Speaker 

    so basically, they are universal table legs.


    Unknown Speaker 

    So you can order for circular table again, we can save on the cost. We only need three legs for a circular table, whereas if it's a they just go to the legs individually. Yeah, well, or three in Yeah, I ordered the legs from from tiptoe.


    Unknown Speaker 

    They were posted from France. They are they're actually Alright, the price it's about 55 pounds each so on


    Unknown Speaker 

    and, and we save on the tax as well. So it's actually less than 55 to us.


    Unknown Speaker 

    And then the table top the round circular disk top is from the cheapest shop in the UK called Argos. And that's like 100 pounds for a 1.2 metre wide circular table top. But that came in a wooden colour, like a natural key light or oak colour. And I painted it with the surplus floor paint we have the grey colour and the rack as it matches the floor. So our table and the floor is the same colour but that's the designer that's the architects idea.


    Unknown Speaker 

    Right? Yeah, they you executed it or I executed it terribly. I think you would call it I think you got the clamps. You got the actual piece of wood. Yeah. And then you painted it. I couldn't I painted three coats and I couldn't get it to look very smooth. So what happened was, in the end, I took a sandpaper and I sanded down the surface. So the table already


    Unknown Speaker 

    He looks kind of worn out a little bit worn out. And tired. You may not I mean, we just did. Yeah. Once we put lots of books on it. Yeah, you You Won't you won't notice he won't notice.


    Unknown Speaker 

    All right. Yeah, indeed. Yeah. That Yeah, I think we've covered it all. Pretty much. Yeah. Right. So that's the design.


    Unknown Speaker 

    Essentially it. Yeah. And some some good brands and quite good value for money. brands that, yeah, if you guys are interested to buy these products, you can take a look. I recommend them. Sure. Are we going to include some links? or? Yeah, we're gonna put put some links. Yeah, I look at I want to also add, you know, with those kryptonite crossing shelves that's floating. So you those shelves are screwed into the wall. So they are,


    Unknown Speaker 

    you know, like 20 screws.


    Unknown Speaker 

    And if you're going to put books on them, those walls were strengthened, especially. So a builder have put a 20 Cm perhaps plywood against what their reward was there originally, and then painted the whole thing. So we have an extra wooden layer for the so the nails can have some. What would you call it a bite to catch? Oh, I see. Yeah, thing. I don't know. depth. It's depth. Yeah. So you can actually go in there and then take the weight.


    Unknown Speaker 

    Okay. Yeah. Yeah, because Yeah, exactly. Yeah. We don't want any collapse in bookshelves.


    Unknown Speaker 

    Nope, not at all. Yeah. most embarrassing.


    Unknown Speaker 

    The shop now it looks beautiful. Because it has no books and no customers. So it looks very clean.


    Unknown Speaker 

    No browsers. Yeah.


    Unknown Speaker 

    Yeah, hopefully it won't. It won't continue to be like that. But at this rate, who knows? Given that we're, yeah, we're still very much in lockdown. Yeah. So have you have you have a word? An interesting English word for for this audience reading English word. Goodness gracious. Sure. Yeah, I have a word. So I was thinking as it's Chinese New Year, and you will all be receiving some money


    Unknown Speaker 

    with all my late look at you know, another word for money, perhaps something that could be considered slang, you know, not, not what we'd say Queen's English.


    Unknown Speaker 

    And the hundreds of the plenty of different terms for money, but one of them we thought would be interesting is quid.


    Unknown Speaker 

    Especially as in lungu. Qu ID to EU ID in London. You know, people be just to, you know, to say, rather than, say two pounds might say it's two quid, three quid or whatever. 500 quid, there's no, really? Yeah, until you get into probably lots of zeros. Or you might even say that, you know, still say a million quid. Yes. Interestingly, you might say a million quid. But if you're 10,000, you wouldn't say 10,000 quid you'd be saying 10 grand. So there's a bit where sort of, you know, you might say in the hundreds, you're still on quid, but then once you get to be on the 1000 you might be talking about grand. And then when you reach a million, you'd probably be back on a million quid. Okay, would you reckon? I mean, I don't know. I've never really heard anyone talk about 1000 you know, 100,000 quid, you're right. So when when we were in English class, we were told British money is pounds. And yeah, but when you come to England, nobody actually says this is three pounds. They would say three quid. Can you can you lend me five quid? So it's a good way to know.


    Unknown Speaker 

    And what Richard mentioned is


    Unknown Speaker 

    1000 quid is


    Unknown Speaker 

    a grant


    Unknown Speaker 

    right? So this time is one grand one grand, grand assuming 1000 Yeah, I think short 5000 is five grand. Yeah, so quit and grant the quit doesn't doesn't end in Chinese. Don't you talk about quiet. Yeah, we say quiet quiet. And creating brand that you don't put SS at the end. I know you don't say yeah, you don't talk say one quit two. Yeah. Two quids is just quit.


    Unknown Speaker 

    Well, yeah, yeah, whereas you might say one pound two pounds. Yeah.


    Unknown Speaker 

    But interesting. I think it's also interesting if you visit North America, they don't understand quid, but they do understand grand. They say grand as well. Yeah, they'll say grand. Yeah. Yeah, but they won't. Yeah, quid. Yeah, no, don't say bucks. bucks. Oh, exactly quit his back. Yeah, yes, but the JC one buck two bucks. Yes. Yeah, I see. Yeah, they pluraleyes it. Yeah. But I don't know whether they say a tenner and a fiver. Oh, five quid into a fiver thing that Yeah. But do they talk in like, you know, whatever it is. Hamilton's and


    Unknown Speaker 

    the 100 Franklin Franklin. Benjamin, even Benjamin? Oh, no, you should tell us about that word. What is up in Latin? What do you mean what is it been Loudon? You know, like, Benjamin Franklin is on the $100. Bill. Yeah, that's 100. So people say one Franklin or one Benjamin? I don't know. Yeah. In Europe, you have 500 euro note? Cat. Yeah. Yeah. Didn't you tell me that's called a binladin? I did I yes. Like as terrorists etc. A mass 500 euro notes? Yes. Rather than $100. Rather than Benjamin's. They'd rather have 500 euro notes. You don't remember this? Yeah, I might have known this and then forgotten about it. Yeah. Well, anyway, so I think that that's really interesting. It's a 500 pound or sorry, 500. euro note is a binladin. Okay, right. Okay. I see what you mean. So you got 500 has been logged in $100. Benjamin? Yeah. And then otherwise, we got one quit to quit. Yeah.


    Unknown Speaker 

    Yeah.


    Unknown Speaker 

    But just a tip. If you visit Europe don't bring any bin Laden's nobody accepts them.


    Unknown Speaker 

    It's Yeah, let's say you see any of them. Yeah, yeah, it's no it's in France. It's illegal now.


    Unknown Speaker 

    Really? Yeah. Wow. You don't remember last time I had up in London and I had to visit the Bank of France. Two weeks to break it up. Really? Oh, yeah. That rings a bell. Like Excuse me. I've got too many been lardons


    Unknown Speaker 

    Can you give me give me a few days something smaller. How about a couple of you know a few Benjamin's? Yeah.


    Unknown Speaker 

    Anyway, I'm not sure people say Benjamins. But. Well, thank you very much a joke about Benjamin's famous song. It's all about the Benjamins baby. Oh, I see. Okay, sorry. Yeah. Okay, that's true for you, as well. I mean, we, you know, we've gone off course from quid.


    Unknown Speaker 

    Alright. Okay. Let's call it tonight. Thank you, Richard. Hello. Thank you. Thank you. And thank you all. Let's talk next month. Okay. Ciao. Ciao.


    Unknown Speaker 

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  • 这期 Unpack 栏目我分享阅读奥地利/英国哲学家 Karl Popper 的 The Poverty of Historicism。这里是这期节目的预览部分,完整节目一共 45 分钟,只有在文化土豆的官网 culturepotato.com,购买赞助人计划后,在 Unpack 栏目页面点击收听。

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  • 本期节目益康糯米和方曌聊聊这周在社交媒体和美股圈发生的一场“散户大胜金融哥斯拉”的有趣事件,希望大家能多赚点钱!


    节目中提到的一些信息:


    /wallstreetbets 论坛

    http://reddit.com/wallstreetbets


    纽约时报对 GameStop 事件的技术小结

    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/28/business/gamestop-stock-market.html


    或许是英文里最长的单词

    Anti-establishmentarianism

    https://www.econlib.org/archives/2017/05/antiestablishme.html


    杨奎松:怎么会有人这样写历史?——评金一南《苦难辉煌》

    http://www.aisixiang.com/data/43890.html


    英剧「毒蛇」The Serpent

    https://movie.douban.com/subject/27119312/


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  • 这期调戏栏目我们讨论在 London Hammersmith Lyric Theatre 编排的一套印度版本的「玩偶之家」A Doll's House。易卜生是19世纪晚期组重要的挪威剧作家,他 1879 年的话剧 Et dukkehjem/A Doll's house/玩偶之家上演之后,与其说是批判或呼吁社会改革,不如说把人们既定观念中的社会和家庭关系轰炸得体无完肤。


    英文版/中文版/印度版人物名称对照

    Nora/娜拉/Niru

    Torvald/托瓦德/Tom

    Dr. Rand/蓝克医生/Dr. Rank

    Kristine/克里斯蒂娜/Mrs Lahir

    Krogstad/克洛斯塔/Das


    节目中提到的作品信息

    话剧

    玩偶之家,Lyric Theatre

    https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1Xp4y1S7FJ


    Lyric 剧院版本的官方介绍

    https://lyric.co.uk/shows/a-dolls-house/


    演讲

    娜(nuo)拉出走后怎样,鲁迅

    https://www.marxists.org/chinese/reference-books/luxun/01/018.htm


    文化土豆之前的节目

    温夫人的扇子,王尔德

    http://dwz.date/dZg3


    非虚构

    易卜生书信演讲集,易卜生

    https://book.douban.com/subject/5348061/


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  • 这期误读会我们聊聊 John le Carré 的卡拉三部曲之二,「荣誉学生」The Honourable Schoolboy。这是一本发生在 1970 年代香港和东南亚的经典间谍小说。嘉宾是高高和张宇凌。


    节目中提到的作品信息:


    小说

    荣誉学生,约翰·勒卡雷

    https://book.douban.com/subject/3662544/


    卡拉/史迈利三部曲的另外两部小说是

    锅匠,裁缝,士兵,间谍

    https://book.douban.com/subject/10529972/

    史迈利的人马

    https://book.douban.com/subject/3662542/

    小说

    柏林谍影 The spy who came in from the cold,勒卡雷

    https://book.douban.com/subject/26389907/


    小说

    夜班经理,The Night Manager, 勒卡雷

    https://book.douban.com/subject/30212811/


    小说

    女鼓手,The Little Drummer Girl,勒卡雷

    https://book.douban.com/subject/30480992/


    小说

    Agent Running in the Field: A Novel,勒卡雷

    https://book.douban.com/subject/33125997/


    回忆录

    鸽子隧道,勒卡雷

    https://book.douban.com/subject/30463116/


    英剧

    夜班经理,The Night Manager,BBC

    https://movie.douban.com/subject/3610655/


    英剧

    女鼓手,The Little Drummer Girl,AMC

    https://movie.douban.com/subject/27190054/


    电影

    柏林谍影,Richard Burton

    https://movie.douban.com/subject/1293190/


    电影

    锅匠,裁缝,士兵,间谍(2011),Gary Oldman

    https://movie.douban.com/subject/3338851/


    英剧

    锅匠,裁缝,士兵,间谍(1979),Alex Guiness

    https://movie.douban.com/subject/1438520/


    法剧

    传奇办公室 Le Bureau des Légends,Canal+

    https://movie.douban.com/subject/26379912/


    法剧

    精忠报国 Au service de la France,Netflix

    https://movie.douban.com/subject/26711470/


    中剧

    潜伏,姜伟

    https://movie.douban.com/subject/3314870/


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  • 这期节目主播和Richard介绍我们是如何为一个面积很有限的小书店选书的。这期节目依然适用慢速、简单英文录制,下面是我们的录音稿文字,是通过 otter.ai 整理,希望对大家有所帮助。


    Yifan 

    Did you listen to the last episode, your first podcast? 


    Richard 

    Once I could bet to hear myself recorded?


    Yifan 

    How many times?


    Richard 

    Once? All right, did you show this to your parents? Nope. Your girlfriend? Nobody? I don't think, Oh, actually, no, my girlfriend sent the culture potato podcast link to one of her friends. Just to tell him about, oh, we're doing this bookshop and I'm doing you know, we're doing this bookshop together. And this is a guy who's like, an I was obsessed, well obsessed with all sorts of things. But when she knew him, when the window in the living together, he was obsessed with learning Mandarin. So she said, Oh, here's a podcast for you. It's Richard's friends podcast. And then she probably said the list and maybe further down he saw, you might have seen because you did two more episodes to three more episodes since. So he might have noticed that one. Okay, I don't know if he went there.


    Yifan 

    Okay, so this week, we want to talk about our book choices, you know, as a bookshop, how we choose books. But before we get into all that, can you talk about perhaps the most memorable book you read in 2020? Well,


    the book I've chosen for this is probably it will be crashed by Adam Tooze, which is a book about the financial crisis of 2008. And it actually came out in 2018, as a 10 year anniversary, but I finally read it during lockdown. He's a professor of financial history. So there's a lot of data, a lot of material, yet it reads like a thriller.


    So it's heading to a Netflix.


    Yeah, it could, it could head to Netflix. But I'm thinking it also, didn't you read? too big to fail? Yes, I did. When it came out, and maybe it's like that as well. Although, because then that isn't that supposed to be super readable and reads like a thriller and so forth? and Netflix material, potentially?


    Yeah. Is that that's even HBO material? I would say.


    Yeah. So yeah, that probably finally getting around to reading that, from one year from one economic crisis to a health crisis.


    And what is the conclusion? Has anything changed? In the 10 years? Since?


    I'm not sure, really, there's a bit of optimism, but I wouldn't hold my breath.


    Okay. But personally, in the last 10 years, you know, one of the big actors in the 2008 financial crisis is Jamie Dimon of JPMorgan. And over the last 10 odd years, I have seen a big transformation in his attitude and to a certain extent, reputation. He has embraced at least superficially. A lot of the new ideas that's that was fermenting in the business world. Yeah. The moving away from maximising shareholder value to to more of a socialist outlook, to the extent that it is possible that, you know, the care for society for employees. I don't know, does the book talk about this?


    Richard 

    No, no, no, no, not not really less of a thing.


    Yifan 

    So even if England is still in full lockdown mode, however, in the background, we are busying you know, compiling lists of books who are going to order and to to fill our shelves. So as the general manager, Richard, can you talk about how you are approaching this, how we are picking our books and how we are presenting it to them to our customers?


    Richard 

    Sure, looking at the fact that we're somewhat constricted by space, and we obviously can't stock every single book that's out there and buy every single genre, like you would in a big bookshop with obviously selecting what we like, but also books that people think are relevant, whether they're classic works of literature, or authoritative works of nonfiction. And some of these recommendations, we're also taking from what we've read in reviews or whether it's from people discussing books in science. on social media, or on podcasts, or even books that public figures recommend.


    Yifan 

    So in a way we are mimicking, or were thinking about how most general readers would come across a book, they might have read it in the newspaper or through word of mouth, or, you know, their favourite YouTubers talking about it. That's the that's the idea.


    Richard 

    Yeah. And maybe with a certain emphasis on various influences, who recommend books, whether again, the, their newspapers, or, you know, traditional book reviewers, like the London Review of Books, or the times literary supplement, to YouTubers who review books, or public figures, you publish lists of books, and so forth.


    Yifan 

     Cool. I imagine we might even organise our bookshelves according to these influencers who recommend the books. And I know that for this week's programme you have prepared, for example, book lists that you know, that's right, wait, we are working on? Can you briefly introduce the four book lists?


    Richard 

    So we got two lists by public figures, probably none of them need much introduction. One is Bill Gates, the formerly richest man in the world. The other one is Barack Obama, formerly the American president, who periodically published their lists of books that they've recently read, as it was the end of 2020. They both did a round up and published the list of books for Christmas. So those are those two lists, and then rather differently, we're going to talk about a radio programme start the week, which is a key radio programme or podcast from the BBC, that talks about books or that talks to people who have written books, and introduces the subject matter. And then one final list will be by a YouTuber, who presents and reviews, various works of fiction, which could be considered classics, 20th century classics or even, you know, even cult classic books.


    Yifan 

    What's the name of this YouTuber?


    Richard 

    So yeah, his name is so his YouTube channel is better than food. And he's a man named Clifford Lee Sargent. And he lives he seems to periodically move about America. I think the latest count us in Portland, Oregon.


    Yifan 

    Yeah, so let's dive into the these four very different and hopefully interesting book lists to give our audience that flavour. Let's start with Bill Gates, Bill Gates. I imagine he would. He's a tech guy. And he's, since he left Microsoft. He's running a globally powerful foundation. He's also at the centre of some of the of the most topical conspiracy theories around.


    Richard 

    Yeah,


    Yifan 

    it's it's no laughing matter. But what kind of books has Bill Gates chosen? In 2020?


    Richard 

    Yeah, sure. So he's got five books. They're all nonfiction, all on different topics. But one you could say is, is somewhat related to Black Lives Matter. It's called The New Jim Crow: Mass incarceration in the age of colorblindness by Michelle Alexander. Jim Crow being the the laws the racial segregation laws that used to apply in the American deep south. Another title is range why generalists triumph in a specialised world by David Epstein. Then we got the splendid and the vile, a saga of Churchill family and defiance during the Blitz by Eric Larson, the spy in the traitor, the greatest espionage story of the Cold War by Ben MacIntyre. And then finally, we have breath from salt, a deadly genetic disease, a new era in science and the patients and families who changed medicine by bcl two ready. So these are the five books. So one of them the splendid and the vile of saga of Churchill family and defiance during the Blitz by Eric Larsen, which is set up in 1940s 1942. When London and other cities in Britain were bombed by the German Air Force. I think he ties this into sort of how people experience the Blitz. In a kind of parallel way to how people are experiencing lockdown due to COVID. You know, as he says the the fear and the anxiety they felt, even if probably the Blitz was a lot more frightening than even COVID. Now we got the book about generalists range where generalists triumph in a specialised world, where he argues companies do better off employing people who have more breadth than people, then having too many people focused on a very narrow subject. For instance, I think Roger Federer seems to be the the author's a big example of how he started playing several sports before really becoming a big tennis star. Breath from Salt at a deadly genetic disease, a new era in science and the patients and families who changed medicine. Sorry, the subject matter of this book is a pet project of his in that it's about research into cystic fibrosis, which is something he's been involved in a message of hope, I suppose. Is there any would appeal to you?


    Yifan 

    Not really, no. Not at all, perhaps the Ben MacIntyre book on the spy and the traitor but in a way I would, I would just Google and Wikipedia, you know, the spies name, and read all about it. You know, but one interesting I would say is, I think Bill Gates is a massively respected figure in the tech world and beyond. And he's someone a nerd, turned humanitarian. And sometimes we imagine nerds or people in Silicon Valley to be reading about coding about big trends in the industry. And right, yeah, or about future, right, like about gurus books about the future. But I think really the best minds in tech, like the best minds in business, they really have a very wide range of appetites in, in their reading, and I think this list illustrates that quite well. Yeah. Especially if he's in the business of giving money out to, to solve the world's problems. He needs to understand the world's problems and the context in which they arise. And the underlying mechanisms or just to understand the world better and deeper. And I think this Yeah, I would say it's a it's a good list. Personally. It's not my interest for lockdown reading. Yeah. But but then let's move to a somewhat perhaps different it's a very different person, you know, by no means a nerd. So it's President Obama.


    What What has he been reading?


    Maybe first thing we should say about Obama is that he's now he's got his new book out, which is done very well. And he sees himself as very much a man of a man of letters, somebody who'd like you. He likes his books he's seriously into he's always been into reading a thoughtful person, perhaps a thoughtful person. Yeah. And he looked at his list, we won't go through the whole thing. There are many more titles than Bill Gates. 15, let's say, a mix of fiction and nonfiction. A lot of them I'd say, probably very, for an American president, very American centric, a lot to do the American experience whether it's fictionalised or, or not. So there's a Chinese American perspective story. There's, you know, South Asian American, there's obviously an afro American, that kind of drive. Otherwise, there are more say, more straight non fiction in to do again, with this one. It looks interesting cast, the origins of our discontents. But Isabel Wilkinson Wilkerson's right, where she contracts a sort of social and Rachel describes the social and racial system in America and includes it or uses the caste system in India, as well as Nazi Germany to describe Yeah, sociological and racial differences in America. There's even a debut on here. Fiction Again, I think it's a lustre by Raven leahlani, which I think is add some, some good reviews some high praise about a young Afro American woman in New York again in the midst of all that's going on at the moment, politically. Yeah, there's also a thing about Latino or Latin x Americans. And this is a work of nonfiction as somebody who's surveyed undocumented Americans, which is the title of the book, the undocumented Americans by capital up codenamed Villa a few cents you. Aside from that there's also a book about the twilight of democracy, the failure of politics and the parting of friends by Anna Applebaum.


    I have this book, Anne Applebaum.


    Maybe I miss wrote it. I don't know. We can double check that,


    because she's the famous author wrote about the gulags in Russia. Yeah. And she's like the only conservative columnist in the New York Times for a while I think. All right. I want to pick out something that you mentioned what people call in quotation mark the American experience. Yeah. You know, it's about, for example, they C Pam Zhang, how much of these hills is gold? I know that she's a, she's an immigrant. She's part of an immigrant family from Beijing. But this is a fiction. I think it goes back in history. It's about how a Chinese family during during the Gold Rush, right. That's right. And there are, as you say, that the undocumented Americans. So it's about searching for a better life dealing with the inequalities in America, and about pursuing the American dream, I suppose. Yeah. Considering Obama's political background, and racial background. I'm not criticising Bill Gates. Bill Gates, doesn't talk about maybe these issues are too controversial. I don't know.


    Richard 

    Yeah. What do you have the Michelle Alexander book, and I suppose what I mean, Obama, the other hand doesn't have much science or anything to, you know, in that in that kind of realm. He's also got this the splendid and the vile, the saga of church or family in defiance stream, the Blitz by Erik Larson. So Bill Gates and Obama cross over on that book. Yeah. What was I gonna say? Oh, yeah, there's one book which is set in Hawaii. Right. Yeah. which follows his book about his own upbringing there. And that is sharks in the time of saviours by kawhi and kawhi. Strong Washburn? interesting name. Yeah. kawhi. Sounds like my idea of somebody from Hawaii, but I don't know. Right?


    Yifan 

    Not Japan. Okay.


    Richard 

    Well, yeah, exactly. I'm not sure what else to add, it seems like, you know, a very sort of American presidents list, sort of. Except Now, having said that thinking if Trump Look, look, look nothing like this.


    Yifan 

    I think Trump is reading legal defence for Dummies. How to appeal this court. Anyway. Let's move on. You prepared another two lists that's coming from the podcast, YouTube. Universe, can you shall we start with start the week the you mentioned, it's a BBC programme. Can you talk about what kind of podcasts This is?


    Richard 

    Yes, so this is probably a key per gramme for books on the BBC. I mean, it's every Monday at 9am in the morning, after they've done the whole breakfast news kind of show, hence, it's called start the week. And it's used to be presented by Andrew Marr, and now he rotates with other presenters. He's a journalist himself, and he picks every week. A number of guests who talk about a subject matter or they talk about different subjects matters. And often, most of that, not always, but often they've written a book, which ties in to the subject under discussion. A lot of the time he has academics and journalists, so we're looking at more nonfiction. However, occasionally, he also has fiction writers. Probably the you know, the biggest names that you recently had down Hutch link and Margaret Atwood


    Yifan 

    giving us a weekly programme. So you know, their list is quite long. So even for 2020 we may have dozens of books can you pick out a few that that are quite representative of the kind of issues the programme is interested in? And yeah, I would just add that Andrew Marr made and honourable appearance on cultural potato in our episode talking about a Maoism that was a paid for programme unpacked Maoist Maoism, a global history in that episode, when Andrew Marr was a student, he was a committed communist fanatic. And he wrote during the Cultural Revolution to the Chinese Embassy in London requesting a free case of Mao's little red books to share with his fellow students. Anyway, so yeah, give us some notable books.


    Richard 

    Yeah, yeah, he, for instance, he had a book where they talked about sort of farming and what can we say country? Well, country nature? Yeah, really. And one of the books on there was a book called entangled life by Merlin Sheldrake, and this is about funghi. This band was just talking about the mushrooms, mushrooms, different mushrooms, and what they can teach us. Something else we've had, so maybe more in conjunction with black lives matter. He had the biography of a Haitian revolutionary of the 19th century. Black Spartacus, the life of Toussaint l'ouverture by Sudhir Hazara Singh, and in conversation with olivette hotelli, who's written a book called Africans, Europeans, an untold history. 


    Yifan 

    Interesting I see on the on the list, there's a title called China's good war by Rhino jmeter. What which war is this about? 


    Richard 

    Rana Mitter previously wrote about the second world war again in the Second World War.


    Yifan 

    Oh, I think I know. Yes, yes. This is about how the West often forgets about China


    Richard 

     Ok yeah that's it. China in the global order? That was


    Yifan 

    Yeah. So it seems that this and I see that there's a new translation of the Aeneid. It's in a way quite a European or British list that you know, it is a title called English pastoral that that's the farming book about mushroom. about these, you know, like gardening, artful farming. There's a book is it is there a book by Hitler? And even you know, classic study is like a very British thing as well. Yeah. So start the week strikes me as compared to the other two are definitely more UK. Not I wouldn't say UK centric. But definitely the taste is


    Richard 

    definitely more so than Barack Obama. Yeah, most definitely. You could say yeah, this is what sort of thinking people or you know, educated people in in Britain might be likely to read is a is going to be on here. Yeah,


    Yifan 

    let's go to the last list. This is a YouTuber you mentioned called better than food to the channel is


    Richard 

    the channel is better than food. And by as he says his host, Clifford, US hosts Clifford Lee Sargent. So this I came to having read, I'd been actually somebody had told me sort of a while back George Bataille story of the eye, which I don't know if you've read it.


    Yifan 

    No, I have not read any of his books


    Richard 

    It's very short. When it came out. It was probably a shocking story. shocking thing to write. I found it very intriguing. And I wanted to find out more. And somehow ended up on YouTube and came across this person talking about how he wanted to adapt it into the film, which I thought was completely crazy was bonkers. I don't think you're anywhere with that. But essentially, I found then found his channel. He at least talked about story of the eye and gave me his insights, which I thought were interesting. His premise is that, you know, in our lifetime, how many books is one going to read especially if you just stick to fiction and so He has this measure. Is the book better than food? Oh, I see. Right see one needs food to survive. Yeah. So, so the measure is is the book better than food? So at the end, he might say better than food? Or he might just say better than food? I don't think so. Some of the titles or merps may be more obscured so some of the titles or maybe famous famous either forgotten books or bit more forgotten or not necessarily known in the English speaking world because that's another thing he has for somebody, let's say is an English speaker is all these got a lot of a lot of books on that that are in that he's reading in translation in English. And that's unusual, because you know, the English speaking book world can be quite narrow minded. Always, always think about, you know, when they announced the Nobel Prize for Literature, usually nobody nobody in this country's heard of who who the winner is. Yes, and so I think a lot of these books are kind of you could say 20th century classics maybe some of them you could say a cult classics sort of book that not not necessarily like there's sort of liked by you know people in in the know as it were.


    Yifan 

    Can you give us some examples of these cult classics?


    Richard 

    But you even the George Bataille story I'd say is a good you know, is what is the story about? I think that's a that's another podcast entirely. Let's not go there. In a way you could say the story of the I two best thing to sum it up. I was thinking about it just now. You could say it's like a book form of a Salvador Dali painting. And even you know, you think of like, what's that film? He made? The slicing slicing eyeballs?


    un chien andalou


    Yeah, un chien andalou. Y eah, it ties into that whole kind of milleu. And. Bataille was first part of those surrealists


    Yifan 

    strange and disgusting 


    Richard 

    Yeah, strange and disgusting. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, the things that probably the obvious ones would be things like jack Kerouac on the road. What's it? Blood meridian is Yeah, there's a few Mishima Confessions of a mask. Fight Club. Chuck Palahniuk, they'll probably be like, at least a you know, a recent cult book,


    Yifan 

    which one was that sorry?


    Richard 

    Fight Club Palahniuk, which was turned into that film in what in the late 90s. So a lot of these books as well, they link so he might see a lot more lashonda Moldova, which might? Again, you'd say that cult in the sense that a lot. That's a book that inspired a lot of people on the list, like, say, George Bataille. Yeah, like the most of the surrealists, but might not necessarily be known if you hadn't read these authors or knew much about the surrealist writers. And so he kind of goes up, he goes up the kind of what's it called? The sort of family tree of literature in a way.


    Yifan 

    And


    yeah, I'm just thinking about from, like, you know, when we have his collection in the bookshop, like, Who are they for? And could you say that his list is a pretentious list?


    Yeah, maybe you could say it's a bit pretentious. I think the pretention here is really to just, yeah, to try and read things that actually matter, or they're gonna leave an impression on you. Yeah. And again, they're also the colour aspect is important. Because also, you know, if you want to be part of, you know, of a club as it were of a colorist, and you know, know, what, certain people what books certain people have read, you know, this is a way of, yeah, getting in there. Yeah, I don't know how to sort of explain but meet perhaps the sort of people who are, there are tea because, you know, like, artists who is I like to reference, like, Great authors, or even more obscure authors like this, you know, there's a certain kind of cachet about like, referencing very, very obscure and niche artists of all sorts, whether they're writers or others.


    Yeah, and I would say, you know, this list is isn't arty list potential slash artists in a good way. In that these are authors who are trying who in you know, in their time, they were trying to do new things, and


    you're trying to experimental


    Yeah, they're not in one way or another. Right, a popular novel. I think none of these were We're written thinking, that's write a book to make money.


    Richard 

    Exactly. I mean, some of these writers remain pretty obscure.


    Yifan 

    So that concludes our four lists as examples of, of how we how we pick our books. And the very last item before the end of the programme is, you know, like Word of, is a good word of the month or just to introduce a fun English word to our listeners. Well,


    I just used five minutes ago, is the word bonkers, right? essentially means crazy. And it's spelt


    B o n k e r s.


    Richard 

    There we are. If something's bonkers. It's crazy. It boggles the mind. 


    Yifan 

    And is that the same as bananas? No. 


    Richard 

    That's true. Yeah. Bananas. It's completely bananas.


    Yeah. Yeah.


    Yifan 

    Okay. Two words. bountiful. And bananas. It's bananas. exactly the same as, as the bananas that you eat. I don't know. Why do people think bananas are crazy?


    Richard 

    They usually say going bananas, don't you?


    Yifan 

    Yeah. Why is that? I wonder? Maybe we should find out. Bananas are bonkers. Okay. All righty. That's another interesting word. All righty. All righty. This is the second programme talking about book lists in Hoxton books. Our bookshop is still not open yet. thanks for bearing with us.


    Thank you.


    Okay, Cheers.


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