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  • Michael Dohlen ★ Wie baue ich neben dem normalen Job ein eigenes Business auf?

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          Interview mit Michael Dohlen von sidepreneur Hey Leute! Hier ist LIFE HACKZ live aus dem Surf Office in Lissabon. Die ersten Teilnehmer von unserem DNX CAMP sind angekommen. Die Stimmung ist sehr gut, weil das Internet ist schnell, der Himmel ist blau und die Sonne scheint. Ich habe mich für 45 Minuten in den Skype-Raum verzogen, um ein Interview mit dem Sidepreneur Michael Dohlen zu machen. Michael baut neben seinem 40-Stunden Job in einer Medien- und Digitalagentur in Düsseldorf sein ortsunabhängiges Business auf und verrät im Interview die besten Tipps, Tricks und Hacks, wie auch Du das machen kannst. Viel Spaß mit dem Interview. In dieser Folge lernst du: Welche Vorteile es hat nebenberuflich in die Selbstständigkeit zu starten. Mit welchen Strukturen und Routinen du auch neben dem normalen Job noch produktiv bleibst. Wie du dich und dein Team mit Tools perfekt organisierst. Schreib mir an marcus@lifehackz.co, hinterlass eine kurze Bewertung auf iTunes und abonniere die Show! Sicher dir jetzt kostenlos das ultimative DNX Erfolgskit für Online Unternehmer mit meinen 7 Erfolgsgeheimnissen für deine persönliche und finanzielle Freiheit ???? [www.dnxnews.de] Komm jetzt in die kostenlose DNX LIFE HACKZ Facebook Community mit tausenden von gleichgesinnten Lifehackern???? [www.dnxcommunity.de]  Sei bei der nächsten DNX Konferenz in Berlin dabei (20€ Gutscheincode "DNX-PODCAST")  ???? [www.dnx-berlin.de] 1.000 Dank, Dein Marcus  SHOWNOTES Sidepreneur Trello Wunderlist Periscope [su_accordion] [su_spoiler title="Diese LIFE HACKZ Folge zum Nachlesen" icon="plus-square-1"]   Marcus: Hey Micha, willkommen bei LIFE HACKZ! Michael: Ja, hi Marcus! Vielen Dank für Deine Einladung! Marcus: Sehr gerne! Sag mal, wo steckst Du gerade? Michael: Ich bin quasi im Moment in meinem Home Office und das ist in der Nähe von Düsseldorf. So’n bisschen im Umland. Wir haben heute leider kein gutes Wetter mehr, also nicht so wie ihr. Genau…  aber ich habe heute Home Office. Deswegen schaffe ich’s auch während der normalen Arbeitszeit mit Dir zu skypen. Marcus: Okay und das heißt, offiziell bist Du jetzt in der Mittagspause oder? Michael: Ganz genau. Marcus: (grinst) Perfekt! Und wo in der Nähe von Düsseldorf? Ich komme ja auch gebürtig aus Düsseldorf. Michael: Das liegt in Richtung Mönchengladbach. Marcus: Okay, also so Niederrhein. Michael: Genau, ganz genau. Marcus: Okay cool. Und Du betreibst die Seite sidepreneur.de. Vielleicht erklärst Du zum Anfang mal, was genau ein Sidepreneur ist, bzw. wie Du den definierst. Michael: Ja gerne. Also das ist ein bisschen auch aus meinem Leben, Berufsleben, aber auch Privatleben entstanden. Und zwar bin ich als Produktmanager in einer Digitalagentur in Düsseldorf tätig, im Hauptjob quasi. Und habe aber eigentlich immer nebenbei an irgendwelchen Ideen und Projekten gearbeitet. Und daraus ist im Prinzip dann so eine nebenberufliche Selbstständigkeit entstanden. Und so definiere ich dann einen Sidepreneur. Der quasi Sideprojects hat, um die dann neben dem Hauptjob ausführt und das können ganz unterschiedliche Ziele sein, die der Sidepreneur dann hat. Aber genau… grundsätzlich ist derjenige, der nebenberuflich eine Selbstständigkeit aufbaut für mich ein Sidepreneur. Marcus: Ja, auf Deiner Website hast Du auch eine ziemlich coole Grafik im sichtbaren Bereich oben unter dem Header finde ich. Da steht: Vollzeitjob von 9 to 5 und Sidepreneur von 5 to 9. Michael: Ja genau, so ist es. Genau, ja. Es ist eigentlich die Zeit, die nach dem Vollzeitjob dann kommt oder eben auch die Wochenenden. Marcus: Genau, das wollte ich gerade fragen. Also das klingt für mich - ich selber war ja auch lange in der Corporate Karriere unterwegs und Vollzeit angestellt und habe auch schon nebenbei so die ersten Projekte. Aber ich würde sagen eher Hobbyprojekte gestartet und es war echt mega, mega tough dranzubleiben. Gerade auch an den Wochenenden, wenn man viel gefordert ist, während der normalen Arbeitszeit im richtigen Job. Und dann nochmal die Motivation zu finden, den Drive zu finden, vielleicht auch noch mit fester Freundin, stelle ich mir mega tough vor. Ist es bei Dir auch so? und ja… erstmal ob es bei Dir so ist und wie kannst Du das überwinden? Also wie motivierst Du Dich? Michael: Also definitiv. Es ist auf jeden Fall eine deutliche Mehrbelastung, ganz klar. Und das ist auch bei mir so. Also ich habe meinen Vollzeitjob, ich hab ne feste Freundin und nebenbei noch die ein oder anderen Hobbies und man will ja auch noch ein bisschen Sport machen und sollte ja auch noch ein bisschen auf seine Gesundheit achten. Da kommt dann ziemlich viel zusammen, ganz klar. Aber ich glaube einfach, da ist es wichtig, wenn man sich im Voraus seine Ziele definiert. Also was möchte man denn erreichen? Kurzfristig, aber auch langfristig. Möchte man nur ein kleines Nebeneinkommen einnehmen durch so eine Sidepreneur Tätigkeit? Dann geht man wahrscheinlich anders heran, als wenn man sagt “Okay, ich möchte jetzt innerhalb von einem Jahr meinen Vollzeitjob ersetzen”. Dann muss man da einfach bereit sein, eben auch mehr Arbeit zu investieren, vielleicht auch die Wochenenden zu investieren. Und dann hat man eben sein großes Ziel aus dem Vollzeitjob rausgehen zu können. Und ich glaube, dafür lohnt es sich dann auch die Mehrarbeit zu investieren. Und wenn man dann noch an Ideen arbeitet, die man selber spannt und interessant findet, dann wird’s auch nochmal einen Ticken leichter. Marcus: Mh. Ja wie so oft. Ich denke auch, es steht und fällt mit den Zielen und wie sehr man sich dann auch committed zu den Zielen. Wie Du schon sagtest. Ich kenne auch genug Beispiele, die bei der DNX Konferenz gewesen sind und sagen “Ey, das ist richtig cool, was ihr da macht, aber voll in die Selbstständigkeit ist mir irgendwie zu tough und ich brauche noch ein bisschen Sicherheit. Ich baue das jetzt nebenbei auf, aber ich will in X Monaten/Jahren an dem Punkt sein, dass ich das Vollzeit machen kann und meinen Job kündigen kann”. Und ich finde das auch eine richtig gute und coole Option. Ich glaube der Daniel von I am Digital zum Beispiel, macht das auch so., um eher smooth und sanft in diesen digitalen Nomaden Lifestyle zu starten, oder? Michael: Ja absolut. Man hat halt nahezu kein Risiko. Der gesamte Lebensunterhalt wird ja weiterhin durch den Vollzeitjob abgedeckt. Man muss halt diese Herausforderung annehmen und dann irgendwie auch schaffen, eben seine Zeit so zu managen, eben noch ein Sideproject nebenbei aufzubauen. Aber ansonsten trägt man wirklich kein Risiko. Man hat vielleicht sogar noch aus dem Hauptjob so ein bisschen Cashflow, was man dann investieren kann. Also das bietet schon wirklich viele Vorteile. Eben vorerst in der nebenberuflichen Selbstständigkeit zu starten. Marcus: Genau, jetzt sind wir gerade bei den Vorteilen. Ähm, für mich selber war es auch so, dass im besten Fall oder bei mir war es auf jeden Fall so, dass man dann auch noch Synergien aus dem normalen Hauptjob - also learnings oder findings oder wo man dann von anderen Kollegen oder aus dem Background von dem Business weiß, dass das funktioniert - dass man das auch direkt auf sein eigenes Business dann anwenden kann und da schonmal so ein paar Umwege spart oder? Michael: Auf jeden Fall. Also man lernt in beide Richtungen. Sowohl aus dem Hauptjob kann man vieles übertragen in das eigene Nebenprojekt. Man kann Kunden nachfragen, aus dem eigenen Hauptjob ableiten. Man kann eben verschiedene Prozesse auch übernehmen, die vielleicht schon gut funktionieren und andersherum funktioniert’s genau so. Man lernt tolle neue Leute kennen. Man lernt wirklich neue Dinge, einfach weil man sie selber machen muss in so einem Nebenprojekt. Und das kann man dann aber auch wieder in den Hauptjob einfließen lassen. Marcus: Mh, wie kam das bei Dir? Wann bist Du zu dem Entschluss gekommen, dass Du das mehr oder weniger… also, siehst Du das jetzt als professionelles Business, was Du nebenbei betreibst? Michael: Also, die Sidepreneur-Plattform ist jetzt so in dem Sinne noch kein professionelles Business. Da baue ich wirklich erstmal so ne Community auf, um die Leute über diese nebenberufliche Selbstständigkeit zu informieren. Hier und da eigene Tipps weiterzugeben oder eben auch mit spannenden Leuten zu sprechen, die ähnliches tun und da verschiedene Tipps dann halt weiterzugeben. Nebenbei läuft ein bisschen Coaching, ein bisschen Consulting. Das sind dann schon eher wirklich Business Ambitionen, wo auch Geld fließt. Aber, wie gesagt, ich habe noch die ein oder anderen Ideen, um parallel noch Projekte auch dann zu monetarisieren, sowohl Infoprodukte sollen folgen in verschiedenen Bereichen, wie auch so ein bisschen, was eigentlich dann ein ganz anderes Thema ist, aber E-Commerce über Amazon FBA ist gerade so ein heißes Thema, an das ich denke. Marcus: Ja, das kommt gefühlt gerade in Deutschland an oder? Michael: Ja, ganz genau. Das geht gerade so um und auch bei digitalen Nomaden höre ich’s ja immer wieder, dass das Thema aufkommt, einfach weil man den ganzen Service auf Amazon sozusagen übertragen kann. Marcus: Ja, das macht absolut Sinn. Ich glaube, das wäre Stoff für eine eigene Folge nochmal. Michael: Ja, ganz genau. Marcus: Vielleicht mit Dir oder mit jemand anderem, wie gesagt, in Deutschland kommen da jetzt auch die ersten zwei, drei Experten zum Vorschein, die sich das Thema auf ihre Fahnen geschrieben haben. Ich selber war da schon länger irgendwie in Berührung mit, aber habe mich da noch nie ganz rangetraut. Aber ich glaube, Du musst Dich da auch voll drauf dann einlassen und sagen “Ich investiere da richtig viel Zeit rein” und einfach mal so nebenbei geht’s halt auch nicht. Aber ich glaube, wenn Du es einmal stehen hast, ist es ein sehr geiles Business, zumal man das dann auch sehr gut automatisieren kann und fast schon vom passiven Einkommen sprechen kann ne? Michael: Ja genau, es ist definitiv automatisierbar und ja… es ist spannend. Aber wie gesagt: Bei mir noch so ein kleines Zukunftsprojekt, wo ich gerade mit anfange, genau. Marcus: Mh, und was war bei Dir genau jetzt der Trigger, dass Du gesagt hast: Die Arbeit… arbeitest Du 40 Stunden die Woche? Michael: Ja genau, ich habe eine Vollzeitstelle und ja. Marcus: Dass Du gesagt hast: Die Arbeit lastet mich nicht voll aus, sodass ich noch genug Luft und Power hab, was anderes zu starten. Wurdest Du irgendwie inspiriert? Michael: Also eigentlich ist es schon immer so, dass ich halt eigene Ideen habe und mir denke “Mensch, das muss man umsetzen”. Und ja, durch den Hauptjob, aber auch durch verschiedene Startup Projekte, die ich in der Vergangenheit quasi überall auf der Welt mal hatte, sind dann auch die Kontakte zustandegekommen, sodass ich digitale Projekte relativ schnell mal umsetzen lassen kann oder auch selber umsetze. Und so ist es dann halt einfach entstanden, dass wenn eine Idee da war und man schaut, ob da ein Markt vorhanden ist, dass man’s einfach mal probiert. Ich bin grundsätzlich immer so der Meinung: Man macht’s einfach mal, man schaut, wie es ankommt und dann entscheidet man: Okay, investiert man mehr Zeit oder lässt man’s erstmal ruhen. Und ja, so laufe ich eigentlich schon ne ganze Zeit lang parallel, aber wie gesagt, da gab’s keinen besonderen Trigger. Einfach diese Ideenfreude und etwas eigenes umsetzen zu wollen. Marcus: Und hast Du dann direkt von Anfang an das Gespräch mit Deinem Arbeitgeber gesucht und warst offen und transparent? Michael: Ja, das ist im Moment bei mir der Vorteil, dass mein Arbeitgeber da relativ offen ist. Er fördert halt, wenn man sich außerhalb nochmal ein bisschen betätigt, solange natürlich der Hauptjob nicht darunter leidet. Aber wie schon eingangs gesagt: Man kann eben in beide Richtungen auch profitieren. Also er profitiert auch davon, dass ich zum Beispiel nebenbei einen Podcast mache, dass ich nebenbei einen eigenen Blog führe usw. All das sind ja Themen, da beschäftigt man sich intensiv mit etwas, was man nachher auch wieder zurückgeben kann. Gerade wenn man, wie ich jetzt, im digitalen Bereich noch weiterhin arbeitet. Marcus: Ja, das war nämlich so ein Punkt, da habe ich ein bisschen gezögert oder gehadert und wusste jetzt nicht so, gehe ich jetzt zu meinem Chef und sage ihm das und im schlimmsten Fall sagt er “Nee, darfst Du nicht”. Und dann hätte ich erstmal ein Problem, ob ich’s trotzdem mache oder dann nicht mache. Ist es denn - weißt Du das? - erlaubt oder legitim vom Arbeitgeber zu sagen “Nee, wir möchten das nicht”? Also braucht man da offiziell ne Erlaubnis für? Ich glaube, letztendlich habe ich’s dann gemacht und sogar so nen offiziellen Brief mir ausstellen lassen, dass ich da später keine Probleme bekomme, weil ich da auch erste Einnahmen gemacht habe mit dem Blog. Michael: Ja klar. Es kommt natürlich auch immer auf den Bereich an, in dem man selber tätig ist. Wenn man jetzt völlig in einer anderen Branche, in einen ganzen anderen Bereich geht, dann glaube ich, entstehen da keine Problem. Und dann wird es einem wahrscheinlich auch leichter fallen, den Chef zu fragen. Das muss man selber so ein bisschen einschätzen, wie der Chef drauf ist. Grundsätzlich würde ich versuchen, wenn es machbar ist, auch zu fragen und diese Erlaubnis einzuholen. Es muss halt nur ganz klar herauskommen, dass alles was man tut, dass man das nebenberuflich macht und das würde ich auch definitiv so führen. Also nicht auf dem Firmenrechner irgendwelche Dinge machen. Man kommt auch schnell dazu, dass ja… Dinge, die auf der Arbeit entstehen, eben auch dem Arbeitgeber gehören. Das können Erfindungen sein, aber das können auch Webseiten oder Ideen sein. Marcus: Ja, ich glaube das ist ganz wichtig, dass man da klar trennt und nicht doch in Versuchung gerät und sagt “Okay, ich schraube jetzt mal ein bisschen an meinem Blog rum”, weil letzen Endes, was Du schon sagtest, das geistige Eigentum überträgst Du glaube ich dann in den meisten Fällen an Deinen Arbeitgeber, wenn Du da im Office sitzt beim Arbeitgeber ne? Michael: Ja genau, da wäre ich auch vorsichtig und vor allen Dingen auch den Kollegen gegenüber. Man möchte ja nicht irgendwie… also man will ja weiterhin kollegial sein und eben auch den Kollegen zeigen: Hey, das ist mein Hauptjob, da bin ich 100% da und abends und am Wochenende bin ich halt in meinem Business und arbeite dort dann. Marcus: Mh, hast Du bestimmte Strukturen oder Routinen, die Dir helfen dann auch noch neben dem normalen 40 Stundenjob so produktiv zu sein, dass Du nebenbei ein Business aufbauen kannst. Michael: Ja, also die mache ich jetzt so seit Herbst letzten Jahres, also knapp nem Jahr, habe ich’s eingeführt, dass ich an sechs Tagen in der Woche im Prinzip morgens um 5:00 Uhr aufstehe. Marcus: Wow. Michael: Ja, einfach, ja… also von Montag bis Samstags, das ist dann auch die Zeit…. einerseits ist man selber kaum abgelenkt, und zum anderen ist es dann wirklich auch die Zeit, die keinem anderen wehtut, wenn man sie sich nimmt, also zum Beispiel meiner Freundin. Das heißt, ich bin dann halt lieber abends mal ne Stunde eher auf der Couch und mache noch irgendwas mit ihr oder gehe halt irgendwo was essen oder mache was anderes und dafür stehe ich halt ne Stunde früher auf und nehme mir die Zeit, die andere Leute halt noch im Bett liegen. Und das funktioniert sehr gut. Ich bin morgens frisch, der Körper hat sich dran gewöhnt und ja… das funktioniert gut, sodass ich vor der eigentlichen Arbeit dann da noch was abarbeiten kann, sozusagen. Marcus: Mh, ja ich habe mir ja jetzt seit einigen Wochen auch zur Angewohnheit gemacht, mit dem Sonnenaufgang jeweils aufzustehen. Weil ich versuche den Körper darauf einzustellen sich wieder daran zu orientieren, wie die Tage eigentlich geplant sind, glaube ich, irgendwie von der Natur. Dass wenn die Sonne aufgeht, dass man dann aktiv ist mehr oder weniger. Und wenn sie untergeht, dass man dann auch wieder so langsam runterfährt und nicht zuviel mit künstlichem Licht macht und so. Also es klappt nicht jeden Tag perfekt, aber an den Tagen wo ich das hinbekomme, merke ich auch, dass gerade morgens, das ist so ne Phase, da ist man - also ich persönlich - mega kreativ und aufgeräumt im Kopf. Man ist irgendwie noch nicht so abgelenkt von, ja… von den ganzen anderen äußeren Einflüssen, die da kommen können. Oder gerade durch Social Media oder durch E-Mails, wenn man’s schafft, dann auch nicht in diese Posteingänge reinzugehen. Sondern dann morgens aufzustehen, vielleicht noch ein bisschen Sport zu machen. Da mache ich diese 7 Minute App. Dann meditiere ich, dann frühstücke ich und dann lege ich mit diesen wichtigsten Tasks los. Und das fällt um ein vielfaches einfacher, als wenn Du irgendwie um 11:00 Uhr in den Tag reinschluderst und dann schonmal vorher Deine E-Mails gecheckt hast und nicht wirklich Struktur hast ne? Michael: Ja auf jeden Fall. Also wer das kann, zeitlich bedingt einfach, ich glaube, das ist super, ja. Wie machst Du’s mit der Zeitumstellung? Weil Du reist ja doch einiges. Das heißt ja, manchmal auch verschiedene Zeitzonen und dann ändert sich ja der gesamte Rhythmus eigentlich. Marcus: Ja, absolut. Da bin ich mir auch noch nicht ganz sicher, ob das so cool ist. Ich habe mich ja erstmal an dieser Faustformel orientiert, immer mit der Sonne. Aber beispielsweise im Sommer, war es jetzt in Berlin glaube ich, da ging sie schon mega früh, kurz nach der Zeitumstellung auf, so um 5 Uhr noch was. Und danach sind wir glaube ich nach Tarifa geflogen. Oder auch jetzt hier in Mallorca oder Lissabon, da geht die erst um 7:00 Uhr auf. Ich meine, das sind dann schonmal krasse zwei Stunden Unterschied. Ähm, grundsätzlich versuche ich aber weiterhin daran zu sticken, dass ich mit der Sonne aufstehe. Ja… Ich habe mir da noch nicht groß Gedanken darüber gemacht. Vielleicht wäre es auch mal cooler ne feste Zeit, so wie Du, zu sagen: immer um 5:00 Uhr. Und damit kommt der Körper besser klar. Aber bisher funktioniert das eigentlich auch ganz gut. Michael: Ja, das war das was ich mir so angelesen habe ist, wenn man den Körper eben auf so eine Zeit wirklich dann einstimmt, dann kann er sich dran gewöhnen und dann funktioniert’s. Das heißt natürlich im Umkehrschluss auch: An den Abenden sollte eine gleiche Zeit sein, die man dann ins Bett geht. Aber für mich funktioniert’s da ganz gut. Deswegen… Marcus: Oder man passt das dann immer dem Sonnenuntergang an und sagt dann zwei Stunden plus darf man noch auf sein, aber nicht an den Screens. Ja…  wie Du merkst, bin ich da auch nicht der Guru. Ich probier immer genau nur gerne selber rum und teste, was das mit mir macht und was mir das bringt. Und grundsätzlich dieses frühe Aufstehen und morgens ganz feste Routinen zu haben, also quasi echt, wie so’n Skript, was Du irgendjemand anderem geben kannst und der kann das dann als Schauspieler nachspielen, wie ich jeden Morgen aufstehe, das hilft mir. Das hilft mir auf jeden Fall ungemein. Michael: Ja? Cool. Marcus: Mh, wie sehen dann bei Dir dann die typischen Wochenenden aus? Im Vergleich vielleicht zu anderen Arbeitnehmern. Michael: Also bei mir ist das Wochenende so, dass ich wie gesagt, den Samstag eigentlich noch als, ja… normalen Arbeitstag sehe. Das heißt, ich stehe weiterhin um 5:00 Uhr auf, versuche dann möglichst viel, auch in der frühen Zeit zu schaffen und zu erarbeiten, einfach bis dann bei uns sozusagen alles losgeht, meine Freundin aufwacht. Ja… aber trotzdem. Der Samstag ist für mich so ein Arbeitstag. Der schließt dann meistens aber doch schon ein bisschen früher, meist so gegen 15:00 Uhr, weil ich Fußballfan bin und da dann mir doch eigentlich immer mal diese zwei Stunden Zeit nehme, um... Marcus: Zuhause oder gehst Du raus? Michael: Genau, nee ich schaue meistens zu Hause. Ich brauche da ein bisschen Ruhe, weil ich selber dann genug Lärm mache quasi. Ich bin da ein sehr aktiver Zuschauer Marcus:(lacht) Und Deine Freunding geht in der Zeit mal kurz raus mit dem Hund oder was? Michael: Ja genau, die macht dann halt ihre Dinge. Sport oder sie halt auch ihre eigenen Hobbies, die macht sie in der Zeit. Genau, dann ist der Samstagabend meist dann um auszugehen, um Freunde zu besuchen. All solche normalen Aktivitäten zu machen. Und der Sonntag ist auch eher ruhig, sodass ich da eigentlich nur noch so ein bisschen was abarbeite, wenn was ansteht, aber auch versuche, den wirklich dann mal freizuschaufeln und da dann mir keine Termine reinlege oder eben wirklich versuche, am Samstagabend fertig zu sein mit allem. Marcus: Mh cool. Ich versuche jetzt auch mal - haben wir heute mit Feli nochmal besprochen und ich hatte es schon ein paar Mal durchgespielt die Idee und gelesen bei anderen - komplett mal zu versuchen so einen Tag Screenfrei zu machen. Sprich auch kein Smartphone, kein Laptop - ich weiß nicht, ob ich’s schaffe. Wir versuchen das jetzt im Camp. Wir starten ja jetzt mit dem DNX CAMP. Da wird’s wahrscheinlich eher schwierig an dem Sonntag, obwohl wir da auch Activities geplant haben und Ausflüge mit den Teilnehmern. Aber einfach mal alles zuzulassen. Und es brennt ja nichts an. Das ist ja immer das Ding. Man denkt ja, man würde was verpassen. Dieses Fear of missing out. Und vielleicht kennst Du’s auch von der Arbeit, wenn Du mal in Urlaub gehst die zwei Wochen und dann… ja gut, mittlerweile kann man auch von unterwegs checken. Aber früher als das noch nicht ging, dass man nicht den Firmenaccount auch noch auf seinem privaten iPhone hatte, und dann kam man wieder zurück in die Firma und dachte so “Oh Gott, was ist denn alles passiert?” Und ganz viele E-Mails, die dann super wichtig gewesen sind, haben sich innerhalb der Tage danach, wo Du da nicht warst, als aufgelöst oder problemgelöst dann rausgestellt ne? Michael: Ja absolut, kennt glaube ich auch jeder ja. Ich find’s cool, dass Du da so experimentell rangehst. Ihr macht ja wirklich viel. Das finde ich gut. Also da bin ich ähnlich eingestellt. Nur screenfrei, das wird bei mir nicht lange halten. Marcus: Mh, ich fürchte bei mir auch nicht. Aber wir sind ja zu zweit. Ich meine, das ist dann manchmal eine ganz gute Hilfe, dass der eine den anderen dann nochmal triezt und motiviert und sagt “Hey heute nicht!” Ich glaube, alleine würde ich das verkacken, die Challenge. Aber mal sehen, also ich werde euch auf jeden Fall auf dem Laufenden halten, wie das funktioniert. Michael: Ja sehr cool. Marcus:  Und wieviel Zeit hast Du dann morgens, wenn Du um 5:00 Uhr aufstehst während der Woche und wann fängst Du nach der Arbeit wieder an zu arbeiten? Michael: Also ich habe meist so zwei Stunden Zeit am Vormittag. Das heißt von 5:00 Uhr bis 7:00 Uhr circa. Ähm, dann mache ich mich auf den Weg zur Arbeit und meist bin ich dann auch wieder so ungefähr gegen 19:00 Uhr am Rechner und kann dann abends nochmal so zwei bis drei Stunden was machen, je nach dem was ansteht. Marcus: Mh und hast Du auch die Erfahrung gemacht, die ich oft mache, wenn ich unterwegs bin und das Internet ist nicht so gut oder man macht tagsüber irgendeine Aktivität, geht Tauchen, Kitesurfen oder so und weiß dann abends, man hat jetzt nur zwei Stunden, ein kurzes Zeitfenster und dann muss man auch schon wieder los. Dass man dann viel produktiver und effektiver ist in dem was man tut? Michael: Ja absolut. Also bei mir ist es so und gerade auch wenn für mich die Deadlines anstehen für Podcastveröffentlichung, für Blogveröffentlichung. Die Abende davor, da weiß ich ganz klar, das ist zu tun und nichts anderes und dann wird auch nur dieses eine Thema bearbeitet, um das dann fertig zu bekommen und ja… das ist absolut so. Also die Deadline wirkt da natürlich als extremer Motivationsfaktor. Marcus: Ja, und ich glaube, das ist ja auch irgendwie ein gutes Beispiel dafür, dass dieses Zeit gegen Geld und alle Leute gleichmachen und 40 Stunden pro Woche arbeiten, dass es überhaupt nicht individuell abgestimmt ist auf jemanden. Michael: Ja absolut, also ich glaube, das erleben auch viele Angestellte, dass man immer wieder Zeiten hat, in denen man sagt “Okay, jetzt wäre eigentlich nichts mehr zu tun” oder “Eigentlich könnte ich jetzt auch eine Stunde früher gehen”, aber ja… Der Arbeitgeber verlangt meistens halt das 9 to 5 und dann ja… sitzt man diese Zeit rum und das hat man in dem eigenen Business, gerade als Sidepreneur eben nicht. Man hat sehr, sehr knappe Zeit und die muss man sich eben extrem gut einteilen. Da helfen natürlich verschiedene Tools, also irgendeine Planung aufzusetzen, was die Sachen sind, die man erledigen muss. Und dann ist wirklich Priorisierung angesagt, dass man die Dinge, die am wichtigsten und am zeitkritischsten sind, dann auch erledigt. Marcus: Ja absolut. Und gerade, ich merk’s auch wenn ich in Berlin bin und dann nen propper Workspace habe, im Coworking Space irgendwo bin und weiß, ich habe jetzt den ganzen Tag Zeit, ich habe super schnelles Internet oder so, dann zerlegt man sich die Aufgaben so, dass man dann den ganzen Tag irgendwie dann in diesem Coworking Space abhängt, anstatt, dass man sich vielleicht selber so ne Brücke schlägt und sagt “Ey, Du hast jetzt nur zwei Stunden, hau rein!” Und dann kannst Du wieder rausgehen und was anderes machen. Es wird jetzt langsam besser, aber es ist trotzdem noch ein Unterschied - komischerweise, das wollen die meisten auch nicht glauben - dass wenn wir unterwegs sind und schlechteres Internet haben und schlechtere Infrastruktur und Arbeitsbedinungen, dass wir da produktiver und effektiver sind, als wenn wir die perfekten Bedingungen im Betahaus haben zum Beispiel. Michael: Mh ja, kann ich mir sehr gut vorstellen. Ich war auch eine Zeit lang in Asien unterwegs. Da war es ähnlich. Also man erarbeitet alles im Voraus, man weiß, man hat halt nur eine kurze Zeit, wo das Internet gut ist. Da schiebt man alles hoch, was hochgeladen werden muss. Und man weiß halt, okay bis dahin muss ich das vorher erarbeitet haben und da bleibt mir nicht mehr viel Zeit, also macht man’s dann auch ne? Marcus: Ja, absolut. Michael: Ansonsten surft man da rum, man schaut sich wieder irgendwelche anderen Webseiten und Projekte an und arbeitet eigentlich nicht wirklich gezielt an seinen eigenen Sachen weiter. Marcus: Ja, ja echt schlimm. Dann ist man auf einmal wieder in so nem Rabbit Hole versunken. Gerade wenn Du auf Facebook irgendwas machen wolltest und manchmal vergisst Du dann, weswegen Du überhaupt auf Facebook gegangen bist. Das ist einfach pervers, wie gut dieser Algorhythmus funktioniert. Michael: Ja. Marcus: Hast Du… Du hast ja eben von Tools gesprochen. Welche Tools nutzt Du, um Dich zu organisieren? Michael: Ähm ich nutze hauptsächlich oder vor allen Dingen auch Trello als internes Projektmanagementtool. Da sammle ich meine ganzen Ideen drin, in verschiedenen Boards. Da sammle ich dann auch verschiedene Abläufe drin. Das heißt, die verschiedenen Boards haben unterschiedliche Strukturen, sodass ich mir dadurch zum einen einen Redaktionsplan anlegen kann. Zum anderen aber eben wirklich auch so ne Art Ideentopf habe, wo verschiedene Monetarisierungsideen oder verschiedene Projektideen drin reinkommen und dann in die verschiedenen Phasen eingeordnet werden. Also, was ich als nächstes angehen will oder was vielleicht eher weniger Potential hat. All so was sammle ich dann in Trello. Hinzukommt, hier und da lasse ich schon mal gewisse Dinge outsourcen, von anderen also erledigen. Und da nutze ich dann auch Trello, um ein Board anzulegen, was dann für die externen Mitarbeiter sozusagen bestimmt ist, wo die auch ihre Arbeitsabläufe eintragen können. Marcus: Ja, ich muss sagen, ich bin auch absoluter Trellofanatiker. Seitdem wir uns das einmal richtig gut aufgesetzt haben in die verschiedenen Phasen, wie Du schon sagtest. Man kann ja individuell bestimmen, wie die Spalten dann lauten und wie man sich’s selber strukturiert, ist das so cool mit dem Team zu arbeiten. Wir haben ja auch ein paar Leute bei uns im Team. Und jeder Teilbereich, jetzt Events oder DNX CAMPs oder Design oder Virtual Assistance, die haben alle ein eigenes Board und dann kannst Du die Karten hin- und herschieben und sogar innerhalb der Boards. Und ich könnte mir jetzt gar nicht mehr vorstellen, wie es ohne Trello war. Michael: Ja, also dieses Kanban System ist ja lange bewährt und jeder versteht etwas anderes darunter, aber letztendlich ist es auch egal, wenn man sich damit eigentlich perfekt organisieren kann und da bietet Trello wirklich diese Freiheit, die Boards zu nennen wie man möchte. Man kann sie anordnen wie man möchte, man kann mit den Karten umgehen, wie man möchte. Ich find’s auch extrem hilfreich. Und das strukturiert eigentlich so meinen Arbeitsalltag als Sidepreneur. Marcus: Mh, und das coolste an dem ganzen ist, dass es kostenlos ist. Michael: Ja, super! Also man kann mit vielen zusammenarbeiten und es bleibt immer kostenlos. Das finde ich echt gut ja. Marcus: Mh, perfekt. Und beispielsweise den Redaktionsplan. Wie hast Du die einzelnen Spalten da benannt? Dein eigenes Kammersystem. Michael: Ja, also es gibt da zum einen eben die normale Spalte, wo ich erstmal nur Ideen sammle. Also irgendwelche Ideen für Artikel oder für Podcast Interviews oder normale Podcastfolgen. Das ist so ein Ideentopf. Und dann geht’s wirklich rien, dass ich sage: Okay, das hat Potential, das sollte ich mir näher anschauen und da sollte ich auch mal Recherche zu machen, wenn ich zu diesem Artikel was schreiben möchte. Das ist dann sozusagen der nächste Topf. Dann gibt’s einen Topf, wo ich sage, dass jetzt ... Marcus: ...sorry dass ich Dich unterbreche. Das heißt, jede Karte hat ein Thema? Michael: Ja genau, jede Karte hat ein Thema für einen Artikel oder für ein Interview oder für einen normalen Beitrag. Und diese Karten schiebe ich dann von links nach rechts durch. Also von links aus dem Ideentopf nehme ich’s raus, wenn ich in die Recherchen starte, schieb’s eins weiter, wenn ich sage: Ja, ich habe alle Sachen dafür zusammen. Ich kann jetzt den Blogpost schreiben oder das Interview durchführen oder die normale Podcastfolge aufnehmen. Und dann geht es sozusagen in diese Produktionsphase, dass ich das dann mache. Und danach kommt halt… da gibt’s dann nochmal so nen kleinen Speicher für “Okay, es ist fertig aufgenommen, es kann veröffentlicht werden” und dann lege ich mir da auch nochmal so ein kleines Archiv an, wo ich sage, alle die bereits veröffentlicht sind, sind nochmal ganz rechts in der Spalte in nem eigenen Topf drin. Marcus: Genau, das habe ich auch. Also bei uns heißt das dann Done, wenn wir zum Beispiel so’n Board aufsetzen. Der Standard ist glaube ich “To Do” “Check Marcus” “Check Feli” und dann, wenn da noch ein Verantwortlicher ist “Check Tijana” zum Beispiel bei den Camps. Ongoing gibt’s dann immernoch für, keine Ahnung, Mailings, Social Media Postings, Anfragen die an die info@-Adressen gehen oder so. Da sind dann quasi die Ongoing Tasks drin. Was auch cool ist, sobald Du es dann einmal verschriftlicht hast das Briefing an Deinen VA oder so, dann hast Du es auch endlich mal irgendwo nieder geschrieben. Und das war nämlich auch immer das große Problem. Dann ist jemand neues dazugekommen, ein anderer Freelancer und Du hast wieder von Anfang an angefangen, das irgendwie zu erklären. Hattest mal ein Word-Dokument, findest es aber eh nicht mehr und ein PDF liegt ganz woanders rum. Also das hat sich echt richtig gut bewährt. Und dann diese letzte Spalte “Done” oder “Archiv” wie Du es sagst, die haben wir dann auch bewusst gewählt, weil ich glaube, man kann die Karten auch archivieren über Trello aber dann sind die erstmal irgendwo im Nirvana verschwunden. Michael: Genau, man kann sie archivieren, aber das heißt glaube ich eher so, von diesem Board entfernen und nicht mehr sichtbar machen. Das gefällt mir auch nicht. Ich schieb sie einfach ganz rechts rüber. Und was ich noch sehr, sehr gut eigentlich daran finde: Man kann halt, wenn man mit mehreren Leuten zusammen arbeitet, klare Aufgaben auch verteilen. Also man kann sagen, wer ist dafür verantwortlich? Und bis zu welchem Datum. Also man hat ja auch dahinter noch einen Kalender liegen, wo man Due Dates eingeben kann und eben auch die verantwortliche Person. Und das hilft auch. Und dann gibt’s noch das Thema Labels, da kann man auch nochmal mit den Farben arbeiten. Also ich find’s wirklich ein super hilfreiches Tool. Marcus: Mh, und wie verwendest Du die Labels? Michael: Das ist unterschiedlich. Also manchmal einfach nur um zu sagen, okay das hat Potenzial oder weniger Potenzial. Aber jetzt gerade bei so Blogartikeln, da mach ich es auch schonmal so, dass ich sage “Okay, das ist ein Blogartikel, da möchte ich gerne einen erweiterten Content zu haben”, das heißt, ich werde da irgendeinen Paper zu erstellen, irgendeinen Downloadartikel zu erstellen. Also ich markiere mir im Prinzip, wenn da noch mehr Arbeit notwendig ist. Und andere Labels sind dann dafür da, wo ich sage “Okay, das sind vielleicht verschiedene Themenbereicht, das ist ne Serie die gehört zusammen”. Also ich nutze die Labels noch sehr unterschiedlich. Marcus: Mh, ja also wir nutzen bisher auch, wenn, dann nur für Prio 1, Prio 2, Prio 3. Aber ich glaube, das sind auch schon wieder zu viele Prios. Also meistens machen wir dann nur Prio 1 oder gar kein Label drauf. Wobei man das natürlich dann auch nochmal durch diese Due Dates forcieren kann, was jetzt besonders wichtig ist. Und was hast Du neben Trello noch im Einsatz. Michael: Ähm, ich nutze hin und wieder nochmal Wunderlist. Vor allen Dingen aber eher für die privaten Sachen. Also ich teile dann die Wunderlist sozusagen mit meiner Freundin, um da verschiedene Sachen drin zu organisieren. Wie gesagt, eher im privaten Bereich. Ansonsten ja… Skype klar, einfach um alles mögliche zu kommunizieren, aber auch jetzt so Interviews aufzunehmen, wie wir es gerade machen. Das sind die Standard-Tools im Prinzip. Ja, Wordpress usw. ist glaube ich klar, aber rein zur Organisation nutze ich wirklich weitestgehend Trello. Marcus: Mh, ja das witzige ist, dass ich das mit Feli genauso aufgebaut habe, wie Du. Dass wenn wir beide dann nochmal Tasks miteinander abstimmen müssen oder so, dass wir dann die Wunderlist noch nutzen. Michael: Ja, ich weiß auch nicht warum, aber ja. Es ist so irgendwie diese ganz kurzen Sachen, die gehen dann eher in die Wunderlist, ja. Marcus: Ja, irgendwie fühlt sich das bei mir auch noch schneller und agiler an irgendwie. Dass man da noch schnell was hinschreiben kann. Weil Trello ist natürlich echt so ein fettes System, je nach dem wie viele Karten man dann da auch drin hängen hat. Was wir immer germerkt haben: Wir nutzen Wunderlist auch beruflich, aber nur halt Feli und ich in der Kommunikation. Das steht und fällt damit, dass man jeder Aufgabe in der Wunderlist auch ein Datum assignen muss, weil ansonsten neigt man dazu irgendwelche Ideen und Tasks da reinzuschmeißen und die poppen dann nie auf, weil die kein Datum haben und vermüllen dann und versinken, versacken und dann ist es auch nur ein besserer Papierkorb. Michael: Jaja, auf jeden Fall. Marcus: Ja, ähm cool. Was hast Du denn jetzt konkret für Dich selber definiert als Ziel mit Deinem Sidepreneurtum? Michael: Ähm grundsätzlich genieße ich es noch, beides zu machen. Einfach, die Vorteile hatten wir ja eben schonmal angesprochen. Einfach die Sicherheit noch zu haben aus dem Vollzeitjob. Auch das Einkommen, muss man klar sagen. Also auch da, da hat man natürlich auch Vorteile. Man kann investieren, man kann gewisse Dinge einfach unternehmen. Aber ich möchte schon nebenbei diese Personal Brand aufbauen und auch verschiedene Einkommensströme aufbauen. Das ist jetzt gar nicht auf einen ausgelegt, dass ich jetzt sage, ich will nur über Onlinekurse Geld verdienen. Sondern eher im Gegenteil, da möglichst Heterogen mich aufstellen, verschiedene Dinge aufsetzen, Prozesse zu erstellen und dann die weitestgehend versuchen zu automatisieren. Und da sind dann ganz unterschiedliche Ansätze. Grundsätzlich möchte ich mir durch dieses Sidepreneur-Thema eben ermöglichen, die Möglichkeit zu haben, ortsunabhängig zu arbeiten, wann immer ich es möchte. Ob ich’s dann mache, das ist dann nochmal ne andere Frage. Solange der Job Spaß macht, glaube ich, werde ich das auch weiterhin machen, aber wenn’s dann irgendwann an den Punkt kommt, dass ich sage: Okay, das macht mir keinen Spaß mir oder - und das ist in der heutigen Zeit ja auch gar nicht so selten, dass man einfach gekündigt werden muss, gekündigt wird, weil es dem Arbeitgeber nicht mehr gut geht - dann möchte ich einfach für meine eigene Sicherheit sorgen, in dem ich parallel ein laufendes Business habe. Marcus: Ja, gerade selbst, wenn man so einen unbefristeten Vertrag hat, ist der auch nur so viel Wert, wie die Tinte auf dem Papier. Weil ich glaube da muss man sich nicht mehr drüber unterhalten, das sollte eigentlich klar sein, dass man trotzdem jederzeit aus betrieblichen Gründen gekündigt werden kann. Michael: Ja genau. Genau und das ist gar nicht mehr so selten leider heutzutage. Genau, und deswegen finde ich auch, das sicherste was man machen kann, ist nicht mehr der Angestelltenvertrag, sondern das eigene Business. Marcus: Mh absolut, Word! Und das ist aber glaube ich, gerade bei älteren Generationen schwer zu erklären. Erstmal gerade, weil auch in Deutschland dieses Unternehmertum ja leider Null gefördert wird oder anerkannt wird. Und in was für ein Risiko man sich da begibt, dass man im besten Fall sogar neue Arbeitsplätze schafft, dass man Steuern zahlt auf seine Gewinne, auf sein Gewerbe usw. Und das war zum Beispiel bei meiner Mutter erstmal ein riesen Schock, dass ich gesagt habe, ich kündige meinen Job und mache mich jetzt selbstständig, obwohl sie ja wusste, dass ich schon viel Know-how habe und schon die ersten Kunden auch nebenberuflich dann im Nebengewerbe betreut hatte und so, war es für sie ein mega Schock aus diesem “unbefristeten Vertrag” rauszugehen. Michael: Mh ja, absolut. Bei mir war es sogar nochmal ein bisschen andersrum. Bei mir war es so: Als ich dann quasi jetzt auch diesen festen Vertrag in Düsseldorf nochmal unterschrieben habe, da war dann die Aussage “Ja, dann brauchst Du den Rest ja nicht mehr zu machen”. Marcus: Woah, krass ne? Michael: Ja ich sag “Natürlich, ich brauch’s nicht mehr zu machen, aber ich hab’s vorher freiwillig gemacht, ich mach’s auch weiterhin freiwillig. Einfach weil’s mein Hobby ist, es ist meine Leidenschaft, ich will es machen. Ich will mir was aufbauen, ganz unabhängig von dem Hauptjob.” Das war dann so ein bisschen andersrum, aber auch spannend zu sehen. Marcus: Auf jeden Fall, das ist echt spannend. Das ist noch ne andere Denke. Ich glaube der Vater von Feli, der hat die Ausbildung in seinem Job gemacht und ist da dann auch in Rente gegangen. Michael: Ja, das ist bei meinem Vater auch so. Er ist sein Leben lang in der gleichen Firma, ja. Marcus: Ja, und das ist echt krass. Michael: Das kann ich mir auch nicht vorstellen ja. Marcus: Nee, aber noch fühlst Du Dich wohl in der Agentur? Wahrscheinlich sitzt Du am Hafen oder? In Düsseldorf? Michael: Wir sitzen in der Nähe vom Graf-Adolf-Platz. Das ist ziemlich mitten in der Innenstadt und ja, ich fühle mich im Moment sehr wohl. Wir haben spannende Projekte. Ich betreue spannende Kunden auch. Und grundsätzlich finde ich’s insgesamt sehr gut. Ist spannend und deswegen fühle ich mich auch noch sehr wohl, ja. Marcus: Mh, und was geht da grad so ab in digitalen Agenturen? Merkst Du da irgendwie nen Switch? Gibt’s neue Kanäle? Gibt’s keine Ahnung, Trends, in die ihr die Kunden dann hineinberatet? Meistens sind die ja eher ein bisschen langsamer als die Agenturen und ihr seid so die Leader in der Branche. Was ist da grad so Phase? Michael: Auf jeden Fall ist das so. Und neue Trends einfach mal aufzuschnappen. Für uns ist es wahrscheinlich kein Trend mehr, aber für die ganzen Kunden ist es noch ein Trend, dieses Content Marketing Thema. Es ist natürlich auch sehr weit gefasst. Darunter verstehen wir verschiedene Themen, aber dieses Content Marketing, dass man nicht mit jedem Artikel, nicht mit jedem Beitrag, den man veröffentlicht direkt Umsatz macht, sondern sich langfristig etwas aufbaut, Vertrauen beim Kunden schafft, all solche Themen, das ist noch sehr neu für den Kunden. Gerade, wenn man in diese größere Unternehmen geht. Da muss man schon viel Überzeugungskunst anwenden, um zu sagen “Passt mal auf, lasst auch mal was machen, wo ihr nicht direkt einen Umsatz, nicht direkt einen Verkauf raus generieren könnt, sondern wo ihr eure Marke weiter aufbaut. Wo ihr Vertrauen beim Kunden schafft.” All solche Sachen, das ist neu und darunter fallen dann natürlich viele neue Themen. Sei es - was gerade ja auch so ein Hype ist, dieses Live Streaming mit Periscope- all das versuchen wir unseren Kunden natürlich auch immer wieder in so Innovationssessions beizubringen und zu zeigen. Aber die Bereitschaft darin zu investieren und was zu machen ist häufig doch eher gering. Marcus: Ja, ich glaube das Problem ist, dass vieles in Unternehmen... man versucht ja alles messbar zu machen. Und das entsprechend auch zu budgetieren und der Teilberich ist dann Profitcenter. Der muss so und so viel Reveniew machen pro Monat, ansonsten ist er nicht profitabel und wir müssen da was ändern und ja, diese soften Währungen wie Vertrauen und Reputation, Authenzität und so, das ist halt mega schwer messbar und man investiert da schon in die Zukunft, was sich aber glaube ich zehnfach irgendwann wieder auszahlen wird. Nur ist es schwer dann den Manager davon zu überzeugen in dem Fall, ne? Michael: Ja absolut. Ja ganz klar. Marcus: Okay. Michael: Noch ein anderer Trend vielleicht, ganz kurz, ist auf der Arbeitnehmerseite. Und da ist eben dieses Sidepreneur auch so ein bisschen dann angeknüpft. Und zwar wollen halt immer mehr Leute sich selbst verwirklichen. Ich meine, ihr als digitale Nomaden macht’s ja wirklich, ich sag mal im extremen Level. Dass ihr sagt, wir wollen komplett zeit- und ortsunabhängig arbeiten. Aber auch so, und das ist bei uns in Digitalagenturen vielleicht auch nochmal verstärkt der Fall, sind viele kreative Leute, die nebenbei irgendwas machen wollen, die eigene Projekte machen wollen, die vielleicht auch sogar dieses Jobsharing machen wollen. Also zwei, drei Arbeitgeber haben wollen, einfach um kreativer und vielfältiger Arbeiten zu können. Das sehe ich auch als Trend und als spannende Entwicklung, wie sich die Arbeitswelt da verändern wird. Marcus: Ja, das sehe ich auch absolut als Trend. Gerade die Generation Why oder was vielleicht danach noch kommt, haben wir ja auch ganz klar gemerkt. Die Leute die bei uns auf der Konferenz waren oder so . Den meisten …. ja… denen ist nicht mehr wichtig, einen drei Meter langen Job Title zu haben oder ein Auto gestellt zu bekommen oder ein Firmen Handy oder irgendwelche Bonuszahlungen. Sondern denen geht es einfach nur um mehr Flexibilität, um mehr Freiheit, um mehr Ortsungebundenheit und da stoßen oftmals immernoch Welten aufeinander. Es wird gerade ein bisschen besser. Aus den Staaten kommen ja die ersten Beispiele mit AfA oder Automaticc, die Firma hinter Wordpress, die ihre Teams komplett remote führen und ortsunabhängig aufgestellt haben. Aber auch im Sillicon Valley ist das gerade ein mega Thema und es wird immer mehr. Und wir treffen jetzt hier in diesen Coliving und Coworking Spaces wie im Bedndesk in Mallorca oder hier im Surf Office in Lissabon immer mehr Leute von Google, von Nest, von den ganzen Startups aus dem Sillicon Valley und sind halt nicht mehr alleine als digitale Nomaden unterwegs. Und schön wär’s, wenn dann auch die ersten Unternehmen in Deutschland das erkennen. Es kommen auch schon welche auf uns zu und sagen “Ey, wir kriegen die Leute nicht mehr. Was passiert da gerade? Wir verstehen’s nicht ganz. Könnt ihr uns vielleicht helfen?” Was ja schonmal ein cooler erster Schritt ist. Aber ich glaube, gerade auch bei Dir in Digitalagenturen und die jüngeren Leute, die streben einfach nach mehr Selbstverwirklichung oder? Michael: Ja absolut. Und genau diese Themen, die ihr gerade bearbeitet, auch so Workations, das sind halt alles so Themen, damit kommen so langsam die ersten amerikanischen Unternehmen um die Ecke und bieten das eben als Bonus an. Ja, und dadurch erlangen die dann quasi auch die wirklich nachgefragten Mitarbeiter. Wo hingegen andere eher starre Strukturen in den Unternehmen dann dafür sorgen, dass die Leute weggehen oder gar nicht erst dort den Job annehmen. Absolut. Und gerade dieses Thema Workation finde ich halt super. Also Arbeiten und Urlaub so ein bisschen miteinander zu verbinden bringt unheimlich viel, sowohl für die Firma, wie auch für einen persönlich. Man ist in einer anderen Umgebung. Man arbeitet trotzdem mit wirklich inspirierenden Leuten zusammen. Ist ein klasse Thema, für Sidepreneure auch super. Weil wenn man seinen Urlaub nutzen kann und weiter an seinem eigenen Business arbeiten kann. Auch das wird sich glaube ich immer mal wieder in innovativen jüngeren Firmen durchsetzen, dass man gemeinsam mit der Firma Ausflüge macht und dort arbeitet oder eben die Mitarbeiter in den Urlaub schickt, wo sie trotzdem arbeiten können, wenn sie denn wollen. Marcus: Ja absolut. Ich bin total davon überzeugt, dass es ein mega krasses wichtiges Assett ist im War for Talents, gerade wenn’s darum geht, Spezialisten an Board zu holen, die es sich eigentlich aussuchen können, wo sie arbeiten wollen. Wie Coda oder richtig gute Designer oder so. Wenn Du denen dann sagen kannst “Du kannst aber auch von überall arbeiten.” Dann kann das letztendlich den Ausschlag geben, auch gegenüber so Sachen, wo man mehr verdienen würde. Michael: Mh ja, denke ich auch. Marcus: Okay, bevor wir zum Ende kommen, würde ich Dich gerne nochmal zu Deinem Podcast befragen. Jetzt gerade gefühlt poppen ja überall neue Podcasts auf. In Deutschland ist das Thema glaube ich jetzt gerade auch…. fängt’s gerade an Fahrt aufzunehmen. Was hat Dich veranlasst einen Podcast zu starten und wie oft kommt Dein Podcast raus? Michael: Ja, genau dieser Trend hat mich eigentlich veranlasst. Ich wollte dieses neue Medium, einfach weil ich es vorher als Zuhörer super genossen habe, wollte ich es einfach mal selber machen. Marcus: Welche hast Du gehört? Michael: Äh, meine Liste ist super lang. Ich sammle einfach alles rund um Business. Rund um Persönlichkeitsentwicklung. Alles was da so im amerikanischen Raum rumfliegt. Die sammle ich und wenn die Qualität gut ist, dann höre ich da auch in vieles rein. Und ja, so langsam füllt sich auch das untere Ende, wo meine ganzen Deutschen dann landen. Da kommen jetzt immer mal wieder und jede Woche irgendwie ein, zwei neue raus, die ich spannend finde, gerade im Umfeld von Business und Bloggen und ja… Selbstverwirklichung, eigene Entwicklung. Es ist ein Trend. Es kommt in Deutschland so langsam auf. Es ist die Frage, wie stark und ja… wer wird sich da noch mit engagieren. Wer wird das Thema mit vorantreiben? Das weiß ich nicht genau. Da bin ich mal gespannt. Für mich war es auch einfach, ich will mal mit ins kalte Becken reinspringen und einfach bei so nem Trend, bei so ner Entwicklung einfach mal mit dabei sein, um zu schauen, was da gerade so passiert. Marcus: Perfekt! Genauso geht’s, genauso wird’s gemacht. Ins kalte Wasser springen und dann gucken was passiert. Dann erstmal anfangen zu schwimmen und ähm, ja schauen ob man untergeht oder wie man an Land kommt. Ob man überhaupt wieder an Land will. Ich glaube, das macht jeden Unternehmer aus. Ob er jetzt Sidepreneur ist, Solopreneur, Halfpreneur… keine Ahnung, was es da noch alles gibt für Preneure. Blogpreneure gibt’s glaube ich noch. Ja… Vielen Dank für Deine Zeit Micha! Michael: Super gerne! Hat mir Spaß gemacht. Immer wieder gerne und ja, vielen Dank für die Einladung! Marcus: Ja, schöne Grüße an den Niederrhein und wir hören und sehen uns bestimmt bald wieder! Michael: Machen wir! Alles klar, viele Grüße nach Portugal! Marcus: Ja danke, bis dann! Michael: Tschüß! Marcus:Ciao! [/su_spoiler] [/su_accordion]

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  • Michael Pieper | Der Weg zu den eigenen Bedürfnissen.

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    Kurzportrait von Michael Pieper Michael Pieper ist Diplompädagoge und Mediator Er ist Redakteur bei Markenkonstrukt Kontakt Michael auf Facebook   [et_pb_toggle admin_label="Toggle" title="Podcast in Textform" open="off" use_border_color="off" border_color="#ffffff" border_style="solid"]   Norman: Herzlich Willkommen. Schön, dass ihr wieder reinhört. Hier ist Norman von MARKENREBELL.FM. Heute mit einer speziellen Podcastfolge, denn neben mir sitzt im Podcaststudio, hier in Amorbach, Michael Pieper. Hallo Michael! Michael: Hallo Norman. Schönen guten Morgen. Norman: Schön, dass Du da bist. Michael, um Dich kurz vorzustellen: Du bist Redakteur bei Markenkonstrukt, bist Diplompädagoge und Mediator. Michael: Genau. Norman: Und vielleicht kannst Du selber nochmal ein bisschen über Dich erzählen und was natürlich super spannend ist: was macht ein Mediator? Michael: Ja, ich habe bevor ich zu Markenkonstrukt gekommen bin, lange in der sozialen Arbeit gearbeitet in ganz verschiedenen Bereichen. Viel mit Jugendlichen, ich habe einen Jugendtreff geleitet, bin in Schulen unterwegs gewesen. Ich habe viel zu dem Thema soziale Kompetenzen gemacht und hab mich dann später auf den Bereich Mediationen spezialisiert. Ein Mediator ist vereinfacht gesagt ein Konfliktvermittler. Also, ich habe da wirklich in den unterschiedlichsten Konflikten vermittelt mit meiner Kollegin zusammen; Nachbarschaftsstreitereien, Ehestreitereien, Konflikte zwischen Mitarbeitern und Führungspersonal. Alle möglichen Arten von Konflikten haben wir da mediiert. Norman: Du bist stresserprobt. Michael: Ja, auf jeden Fall gerade in dieser Rolle. Dann ist es wirklich etwas Anderes, weil ich habe auch im Vorfeld nochmal darüber nachgedacht. Wenn man selber Konfliktpartei ist, ist es etwas Anderes, wenn man sich selber ungerecht behandelt fühlt oder so. Aber in der Rolle des Mediators hat man halt einfach diese professionelle Einstellung, Haltung und geht dann auch entsprechend rein und kann dann auch zumindest phasenweise den Stress auch anders bewältigen. Norman: Wenn man sich zum Thema Kommunikation austauscht und wenn man zwei Parteien hat, selbst wenn das beides Kommunikationsprofis sind, fällt es denen natürlich selbst oft schwer, zu schlichten und  sie sind dann angewiesen auf Spezialisten, Experten wie Du einer bist. Mit dem Blick von außen, aber auch mit dem Verständnis für die Mechanismen, für die Methoden vielleicht auch, die man anwenden kann, um diesen Streit, diesen Konflikt zu lösen. Michael: Richtig, absolut. Kann ich nur bestätigen. Wie gesagt, ich glaube ich bin selber in Konflikten ein ganz schwieriger Kandidat, aber als Mediator denke ich, bin ich ganz brauchbar. Norman: Wenn ich das an dieser Stelle vielleicht sagen darf, ich erlebe Dich und das finde ich super spannend ... Wir haben viele tolle Gespräch geführt, sehr tiefgründige Gespräche, wo es dann auch um Verhaltenspsychologie ging und eigentlich schon fast in die Richtung Persönlichkeitsentwicklung. Also es sind ja tatsächlich auch ein paar Themen, die das auch berührt und deswegen freue ich mich auch total auf unser Thema. Denn unser Thema heute ist das Thema „Gewaltfreie Kommunikation, der Weg zu den eigenen Bedürfnissen.“ Michael: Ja genau. Norman: Schön. Ja. Michael: Ich freue mich auch. Und ich finde das ist auch ein ganz spannendes Thema und auch man könnte sagen, aktueller denn je. Ja vielleicht, ich weiß nicht, diejenigen, die es nicht kennen, verbinden vielleicht ....  Der Begriff der gewaltfreien Kommunikation hört sich jetzt ein bisschen hippiemäßig an, aber es ist wirklich eine ganz spannende Sache. Man könnte es jetzt auch zeitgenössischer - weil es auch schon eine Methode die es länger gibt - mit konstruktiver Kommunikation oder so übersetzen. Denn im Kern geht es einfach darum, wie ich mit meinem Gegenüber kommuniziere, dass für uns, bildlich gesprochen, die Bälle hin- und her spielen und wir uns nicht den Ball immer gegenseitig wegnehmen. Norman: Ja. Michael: Also einfach einen positiven Kommunikationsfluss zu erzeugen und das ist in allen Lebensbereichen von Vorteil. Ob es in der Partnerschaft ist, ob es im Beruf ist. Also überall wo Kommunikation ist, ist es auch sinnvoll, konstruktiv zu kommunizieren. Denn sonst, ohne jetzt schon wieder zu sehr ins Referieren zu kommen, blockieren wir uns einfach und dann folgt Abwehrmanöver auf Abwehrmanöver, um mit Birkenbihl zum Beispiel zu zitieren. Dann ist eine Blockade da und dann geht es nicht weiter und dann, gerade jetzt zum Beispiel in Firmensituationen, ist dann oft auch eine Form von Sabotage anzufinden oder ich fange an dem anderen etwas zu unterstellen, was der gar nicht beabsichtigt, aber dann gehen die Bilder los. Es spricht also vieles dafür, gewaltfrei zu kommunizieren.   Marshall Rosenberg, der Gründer der gewaltfreien Kommunikation, das muss man einfach dazu sagen, nimmt den Gewaltgedanken sehr weit, er fasst ihn sehr weit. Also Gewalt jetzt nicht nur im Sinne von Aggression oder auch verbaler .... Ich sag jetzt mal so, eine abwertende Form von Kommunikation, wäre schon aus seiner Sicht, Gewalt. Norman: Bevor wir da tiefer einsteigen - man bemerkt schon, dass Du mit Begeisterung und Leidenschaft zu dem Thema sprechen kannst und willst. Noch ganz kurz zum Intro: Grundsätzlich gehört ja Kommunikation erstmal zu den elementaren Bedürfnissen der Menschen, um miteinander in Austausch zu treten. Das ist jetzt keine wahnsinnige Neuigkeit. Michael: Nee, aber es ist immer gut, sich das mal zu vergegenwärtigen. Norman: Vielleicht im Bezug oder im Hinblick auf die gewaltfreie Kommunikation: Ist es nicht letztendlich auch in erster Linie der Zugang zu sich selbst, den ich habe um so mit meinen Gefühlen und Emotionen in Verbindung zu treten? Vielleicht kannst Du dazu noch kurz etwas sagen. Michael: Ja, absolut. Im Grunde sprichst Du jetzt schon mehr oder weniger, sage ich mal, den Kern auch dieses Konzeptes an. Denn da geht es einfach um eine empathische Form der Kommunikation, also um sich einzufühlen auch in den Anderen und dazu denke ich, ist es genauso wichtig, auch über die eigene Gefühlslage und auch über die eigene Bedürfnislage Bescheid zu wissen. Das sind im Grunde die Grundvoraussetzungen. Was mir noch dazu einfällt ist, dass als ich mich damit konkret angefangen habe zu befassen, ich darüber auch tatsächlich verstärkter angefangen habe über eigene Gefühle, Bedürfnisse nachzudenken. Auch losgelöst von Kommunikation, denn Du hast auch gesagt - Stichwort Persönlichkeitsentwicklung - und ich finde, das ist wirklich ein ganz wichtiges Feld. Vielleicht sind wir noch bei alten Rollenbilder ... Und auch der Mann, „Indianer kennt keinen Schmerz“ So sind wir ja auch immer so ein bisschen  ... Stehen wir vor der Herausforderung, dürfen wir jetzt eigentlich Gefühle haben und zulassen und wie gehen wir damit um? - und so weiter. Ich habe nur immer gemerkt, dass wenn ich anfange die zu unterdrücken, wird es hinterher doppelt schlimm, also habe ich irgendwie notgedrungen angefangen, mich damit zu befassen, um so wie auch Rosenberg zum Beispiel immer sagt, „Auch irgendwann anzufangen, die Verantwortung auch für meine Gefühle zu übernehmen.“ Norman: Selbst die Verantwortung übernehmen. Michael: Genau und damit auch der Schuldige.... Mir geht es schlecht, weil der irgendwas mit mir gemacht hat und das wäre nicht verantwortungsvoll. Norman: Also ich glaube, das ist auch so eine ganz wichtige Erkenntnis, wenn man sich mit diesem Thema beschäftigt. Für seine Emotionen und Gefühle wirklich, wie Du sagst, selbst die Verantwortung zu übernehmen. Weil oftmals ist es ja auch im Sprachgebrauch, „Ich fühle mich schlecht, weil Du ...“ Michael: Ganz genau. Norman: Dass ich dann auf diese Art und Weise anfange .... Ich zwar in Form von Ich-Botschaften in dem Moment spreche, da sind wir ja schon fast wieder bei der Methodik: Wie bringe ich das zum Ausdruck? Aber diese Ich-Botschaft ist ja im Grunde die Schuldzuweisung, indem ich sage, „Ich fühle mich schlecht, weil Du ...“ Michael: Ganz genau. Norman: Was ich auch noch einen spannenden Gedanken finde, ist dieses Thema Kopf, Herz. Wie kann ich das formulieren? Wie kann ich es schaffen, der Kopf ist ja .... der Gedanke ist ja viel schneller, als die Wahrnehmung des Gefühls, die von Herzen kommt. Also ich bin in einer Konfliktsituation und in meinem Kopf passiert ja dann Feuerwerk, da passiert ja dann alles. Da passiert auf einmal  Wut und das ist ja eine ganz klares Pseudogefühl, was dadurch entsteht. Kopf sagt: „Ich werde gemobbt“. Ist ja ein Pseudogefühl. Im Herzen ist dann ein echtes Gefühl und eine echte Emotion, die dann heißt, ich bin traurig. Michael: Ja. Norman: Also wie schaffe ich es in solchen Momenten den kühlen Kopf zu behalten und auch vielleicht zu einem späteren Moment auf mein Herz zu hören. Michael: Ich sage mal so. Auf der einen Seite ist es eine lebenslange Herausforderung, der man sich in irgendeiner Form dann annähern kann und welche vielleicht auch mal besser und mal schlechter gelingt. Das ist meiner Erfahrung nach, von vielen unterschiedlichen Faktoren abhängig und ich selber, wenn ich jetzt zurückblicke, habe schon so manches Mal gedacht, ich wäre schon „weiter“. Aber dann hat sich vielleicht eine äußere Faktorenlage so verdichtet, dass mir genau das dann auch wieder passiert ist und ich total unreflektiert und mich bedroht gefühlt habe und dann ganz unvernünftig aus diesen Pseudogefühlen heraus, reagiert habe. Aber um jetzt Mal wieder konstruktiv zu werden und zum Beispiel mit Rosenberg oder mit der gewaltfreien Kommunikation zu argumentieren, was man lernen kann und was man üben kann ist sein Mindset, wie Du immer so schön sagst. Ich finde  den Begriff super, weil hier passt ja auch sehr gut - sein Mindset so einzustellen, dass wir unterteilen zwischen Beobachtung und Bewertung. Norman: Sehr gut. Michael: Wir schaffen es glaube ich nicht zu bewerten. Aber, wenn man es schafft, und das ist im Grunde ja so eine kleine analytische Zweiteilung, das auseinanderzukriegen, was man einfach üben muss, dann ist viel gewonnen. Weil dann entsteht dieser kleine Spalt, der uns erlaubt, zum einen zu gucken: was ist denn da überhaupt auf der anderen Seite los und uns vielleicht auch selber zu fragen: müssen wir so reagieren oder steckt da doch etwas Anderes dahinter? Um es konkreter zu machen: Ich habe mich jetzt verabredet und Dein Gegenüber hat sich verspätet und ich könnte jetzt so reagieren und sagen: „Du kommst immer zu spät.“ Aber ich könnte auch sagen... Norman: vorwurfsvoll... Michael: Genau vorwurfsvoll und verallgemeinert und ich habe sofort eine Bewertung mit drinnen. Durch immer und so ist sofort - zack bumm - ein Stempel drauf. Ich weiß jetzt aber zum Beispiel gar nichts über die Hintergründe. Was ist da jetzt los? Und ich könnte ja jetzt versuchen diese Teilung hinzukriegen und zu sagen, ich konzentriere mich jetzt auf die reine Beobachtung. Und die Beobachtung ist, wir haben jetzt 15:10 Uhr und wir haben uns um 15:00 Uhr verabredet und könnte dann denken - das ist die Beobachtung - „Ok, das ärgert mich. Ich merke, dass ich verärgert bin, weil Du zu spät gekommen bist.“ Also jetzt wird es ein bisschen theoretisch, aber das ist jetzt gar nicht so leicht zu veranschaulichen. Da habe ich jetzt diese Unterscheidung; also ich habe es jetzt getrennt. Die Trennung von Beobachtung und Bewertung. Ich könnte sagen: „Du, wir haben 15:10 Uhr. Ich merke, ich werde ein bisschen ärgerlich, weil ich kriege dann auch so das Gefühl, Du gehst nicht wertschätzend mit meiner Zeit um“ oder so. Dann habe ich eine ganz andere Basis, als wenn ich sagen würde: „Hör mal, das ist jetzt das 10te Mal. Du kommst immer zu spät.“ Und bin dann schon wieder im Vorwurf, bin dann schon wieder im Angriff und werde dann beim Anderen wahrscheinlich keine Basis schaffen können, um konstruktiv mit ihm zu überlegen, zu erfahren, was da jetzt genau los war. Norman: Du hast gerade zwei ganz wertvolle Sachen gesagt. Vielleicht können wir die rausdestillieren und diese Essenz nochmal hervorholen. Und zwar, das eine ist das Thema: „Wir werden immer wieder mit den Themen konfrontiert, für die wir noch keine Lösung gefunden haben.“ Du hast von dem Inneren-Ich gesprochen. Das sich ja immer wieder zeigt, wenn für die Bedürfnisse in der Vergangenheit einfach noch keine Strategie gefunden wurde und solange kommen diese Aufgaben halt immer wieder und wieder und wieder. Bis Du Dich den Themen annimmst und sie anschaust, „Okay, ich nehme Dich wahr.“ Ich nehme diese Situation wahr. Also das war dieser eine wichtige Punkt und der andere wichtige Punkt, und das ist ganz interessant, vielleicht so eine kleine Story: Im tibetischen gibt es ja kein Wort für das Thema Feind. Also, es ist quasi eine Bewertung der Sprache, weil jeder im tibetischen, der Dir begegnet, ob Freund oder Feind, völlig egal, ist ein Begleiter und Du bewertest erst durch die Sprache, ob es Dein Freund oder Feind ist. Bei denen gibt es halt das Wort Feind nicht und das fand ich auch ein schönes Bild dafür, was wir ja durch Sprache tun. Was wir anstellen können damit. Erstmal mit unserer eigenen inneren Stimme und dann nach Außen natürlich unserem Gegenüber. Michael: Das finde ich, arbeitet Rosenberg auch total schön raus, weil er immer sagt: wir haben eine lebensentfremdende Sprache entwickelt, die immer entweder auf Feindschaften oder Feindbildern basiert. Das lernen wir einfach von Klein auf und ich muss gestehen, ich habe  im Vorfeld auch nochmal kurz in das Buch reingeblättert  und da fand ich nochmal die Überlegung spannend, dass er auch gesagt hat, dass z.B. Cartoons oder Kindergeschichten, alles basiert immer darauf, dass ....  weil das sind ja so kulturelle Fundamente auf denen wir auch sozusagen funktionieren. Norman: Gut und Böse Michael: Gut und Böse. Und der Böse wird bestraft. Norman: Ja. Michael: Ja. Böse wird bestraft und in den Cartoons bekommt er dann irgendwie mit der Keule einen übergezogen oder keine Ahnung. Also es ist auch immer oft mit Gewalt verbunden. Gewalt wird also auch immer gerechtfertigt. Das ist ein legitimes Mittel, weil der ist ja Böse, deswegen können wir den jetzt auch bestrafen, sozusagen. Und so entsteht dann auch so ein kulturelles Bild und dann setzt sich das auch sprachlich fort und auch in unseren Denkprozessen und so sind wir immer zack, ganz schnell Feind, Feind, Freund, okay. Und das setzt sich dann so fort bis in zu ganz schnell zu verurteilen. Norman: Weil Du es gerade gesagt hast, es ist immer auch eine Egoperspektive oder auch eine Perspektive des Kollektivs. Michael: Ja genau. Norman: Jetzt ist es ja so, dass jeder Mensch per se, mal angenommen werden möchte mit seiner Persönlichkeit. Das ist mal so, das sage ich mal, Urbedürfnis .... Michael: Absolut Norman: ... was jeder Mensch hat. Man möchte gemocht werden. Ich hatte lustigerweise einmal einen Podcast zum Thema: „Wie gehe ich mit Leuten um, die mich kritisieren, ob konstruktiv oder destruktiv. Was macht das in mir? Wie weh tut mir das eigentlich?“ Und was festzustellen ist, ist dass es oftmals nicht so erkannt wird. Dass man im Grunde  im Kollektiv viel mehr seine kommunikativen Fähigkeiten entfalten kann, wenn man ein Wir  im Kopf zulässt und nicht diese Egoperspektive. Gibt es so für Dich, vielleicht auch aus Deiner Tätigkeit als Mediator, irgendwie Strategien und Methoden, wie ich mich gerade in Konfliktsituationen, wo es dann ja heiß hergeht, wo ich innerlich vielleicht eine Wut oder Ärger aufbaue, oder mich ungerecht behandelt fühle - wie ich in so einer Situation damit besser umgehen kann? Michael: Also, wenn ich Dich richtig verstehe, dann würde ich sagen: Ich habe es so erlebt, wenn ich es dann schaffe, meine Gefühlslage zu äußern und auch im besten Fall Zugang zu meiner Bedürfnislage habe, wenn ich die aufdecke, wenn mir das gelungen ist im Konflikt oder in einer konfliktären Situation, dann war es zum einen erstmal sehr befreiend, auch erleichternd und ich habe eigentlich immer beim Anderen so eine Art Entwaffnung erreicht. Weil dann kann der Andere sozusagen empathisch andocken und ich denke in der Regel sind wir alle empathisch. Mein Weltbild geht davon aus, dass eigentlich jetzt außer vielleicht, wenn ganz .... Ich würde jetzt einfach mal sagen, da sind wir jetzt mal im Grunde alle empathisch und daran interessiert als Spezies auch reinzufühlen, was in dem anderen los ist und wenn ich das erreiche .... Also wenn ich wirklich sage: „Du, wenn Du mich jetzt ... Wenn ich das so höre, dann werde ich total wütend und dann fühle ich mich klein und nicht wertgeschätzt.“ Oder so. Irgendwie sowas. Dann glaube ich nicht ... Ist es in den seltensten Fällen so, dass der andere dann noch weiter, sage ich mal „nachtritt“ oder so, dann merkt er „Oh, Mensch“, das wollte der vielleicht gar nicht. Wer will das schon? Nur jeder hat dann sozusagen seine Strategie im Konflikt umzugehen und wenn einmal also sozusagen die Strategie Angriff ist, dann ist es halt auch schwer, wieder zurückzurollen und dann eskaliert es ja meistens. Aber das wäre so zum Beispiel eine Möglichkeit die Eskalation zu unterbinden. Wirklich auch dann auch von der eigenen Gefühlslage ... Das nimmt einfach so die Luft raus. Das Konfliktpotential. Im Grunde muss ja nicht erst ein Konflikt eintreten auch was Du davor gesagt hast, es ist immer vorteilshaft sozusagen für sich selber aber auch für die Umwelt zu verstehen zu geben, was die Bedürfnisse erfordern, weil manchmal haben wir alle, glaube ich, so relativ dysfunktionale Strategien, um unsere Bedürfnisse zu erfüllen. Also wir sind halt gar nicht damit verbunden und in der Regel ist es oft, wie Du auch gesagt hast, also dahinter, steckt oft der Wunsch einfach geliebt, gemocht zu werden. Auch wenn sich das kitschig anhört, ich glaube, das ist einfach so. Davon gehe ich aus und wir wollen gesehen werden. Wir wollen gehört werden. Wir wollen wertgeschätzt werden. Das unterstelle ich jetzt erst einmal jedem. Die Art und Weise wie wir das erreichen wollen ist sehr unterschiedlich und kann auch dazu führen, dass es beim Anderen gar nicht als solches erkannt und dann auch dementsprechend nicht berücksichtigt wird. Norman: Das finde ich auch einen ganz interessanten Satz. Ich habe gerade einfach mal ein paar Szenen in meinen Kopf zugelassen, die ... Ja, wo ich auch in meiner Erfahrung erlebt habe, wie haben vielleicht Leute oder ich sogar selbst reagiert im Außen wirklich zu sagen es lag nicht an mir, es lag an dieser Situation, an diesen Menschen. Diese nach außen gerichtete Haltung, vielleicht einen Schuldigen für irgendwas zu finden, anstatt bei sich selbst zu gucken. Vielleicht können wir zwei uns mal in eine Zeitmaschine setzen und nochmal zurück in die Prägungsphase des Menschen reisen. Denn was passiert als Kind, wir schauen uns quasi von den Eltern das ab, was wir lernen, also natürlich auch: Wie geht man mit Emotionen um? Wie geht man mit Wut um, mit Trauer? Natürlich auch mit Fröhlichkeit, Lachen und dergleichen. Wie begegnet man auch diesen hochemotionalen Momenten? Also wie löst man sie am Ende auch auf? Also nicht nur die Tränen per se, sondern wie schafft man es auch wieder ins Lachen gemeinsam zu kommen. Und diese prägende Phase beschäftigt mich dann jetzt als Vater damit auch. Wie wichtig ist das aus Deiner Sicht, auch immer mal wieder in seine eigene Vergangenheit zu reisen, um vielleicht für die Gegenwart eine Lösung zu finden. Michael: Das ist für mich so ein ambivalentes Thema. Auf der einen Seite denke ich, dass es auch wichtig sein kann, sich selber besser kennenzulernen und auch zu gucken: Was war da los? Und auch in diesen Phasen, aber dann auch wieder sich nach vorne zu richten und auch im Jetzt und Hier Entscheidungen zu treffen und daran zu arbeiten, wie verhalte ich mich jetzt und warum. Denn aus meiner Sicht muss es nicht darauf hinauslaufen, aber oft gehen wir dann ja in so eine psychoanalytische Richtung, also Eltern, Kind, was war da los? und so weiter und dieser Ansatz und auch das Konzept dahinter und auch das Therapiekonzept, was bis heute sich daraus entwickelt hat, kann auch dazu führen, dass diese Geschichten sich immer weiter so fortsetzen und gar nicht aufgelöst werden, weil wenn ich immer mir selber die Geschichte erzähle von dem Jungen, der damals von seinen Eltern schlecht behandelt wurde und nie wo zum Beispiel, die Emotionen nie gemeinsam angenehm aufgelöst wurden oder so,  der immer unterdrücken musste, dann erzähle ich womöglich die Geschichte immer weiter und dann verändert sich nichts. Norman: Das stimmt. Michael: Wichtig wäre schon mal hinzugucken, aber dann auch da abzuschließen und weiter nach vorne zu schauen und dann auch zu sagen, okay, aber jetzt bin ich nicht mehr dieser Junge, der ich damals war. Weil diese Gefahr ist groß und ich habe selber viele Menschen erlebt, die da ein bisschen hängen bleiben in dieser Geschichte, die sie sich immer wieder selber erzählen, als Opfer, als jemand der unschöne Sachen .... Natürlich haben wir alle irgendwo unseren Rucksack zu tragen und aber es geht dann darum, auch da auch wieder Verantwortung zu übernehmen und zu sagen, okay, jetzt habe ich da mal hingeschaut,  aber jetzt gucke ich, wie es heute weitergeht, weil heute bin ich ein anderer. Heute kann ich meine eigenen Entscheidungen treffen. Das wäre für mich da an dieser Stelle wichtig. Norman: Das heißt, wenn ich Dich richtig verstanden habe, ist es wichtig in die Vergangenheit zu schauen; wirklich mal in meine Kindheit zu schauen und Indikatoren zu finden für die Gegenwart, aber nicht mantrenartig, immer wieder vorleben und sagen: „Wie schlecht geht es mir. Was habe ich da erlebt.“ Oder eigentlich und das erlebe ich ziemlich oft: Begründungen zu finden, warum es mir in der Gegenwart schlecht geht. Michael: Ganz genau. Norman: Ich habe das erlebt, das Schlechte, Negative, Böse erlebt. Vielleicht auch die Machtausnutzung von Erwachsenen, von Eltern, weil die eine gewisse Macht auf die Kinder haben. Ich habe das erlebt und deswegen geht es mir heute so schlecht, sodass ich eigentlich gar nicht mehr rauskomme. Michael: Richtig. Genau das meine ich, weil da besteht die Gefahr und ich sage jetzt auch mal so, dass sich da eine ganze Industrie damit beschäftigt, dass auch das so bleibt. Weil die profitieren davon, ob die jetzt Psychopharmaka verkaufen oder Therapiestunden in Rechnung stellen. Genau wie Du es eigentlich gesagt hast, das ist wichtig, dass man dann auch da abschließt und das Potential der Veränderung erkennt und da wären wir wieder bei diesem Verantwortungsthema: nicht wieder die Schuld beim Anderen sucht und die Verantwortung da liegt, denn wir sind keinen Kinder mehr, wir sind jetzt erwachsene Menschen, also haben wir auch die Verantwortung für unsere Handlung und können auch unsere eigene Entscheidungen treffen, die losgelöst von dem sind was damals passiert sein mag. Norman: Sehr gut. Dann reisen wir mal wieder in die Gegenwart. Jetzt haben wir sehr stark uns selbst in das Zentrum, in den Fokus gesetzt, mit unser Kindheit: Wie sind wir aufgewachsen? Was hat uns geprägt? Bis hin zu dem, wo wir heute stehen. Unsere Gefühle, unsere Emotionen wirklich anzunehmen, wahrzunehmen, auch wertzuschätzen. Dass sie es wert sind gesehen zu werden. Jetzt gibt es ja diesen lustigen Satz, den man eigentlich schon fast umgangssprachlich sagt, zum Thema, „Ich weiß schon, wie Du Dich fühlst.“ Es ist ja eigentlich doch schon wieder  ein über jemanden stehen, und zu sagen „Erzähl mir nichts. Ich weiß, wie Du Dich fühlst.“ Michael: Total. Norman: Und worauf ich hinaus will ist, das Thema Wertschätzung der Emotionen und Gefühle seines Gegenübers. Oftmals lernen wir Leute auch kennen, die einfach so eine Mauer um sich haben, die einfach die totale Coolness nach außen ausstrahlen und einfach sagen „Ich gebe Dir mein Inneres nicht frei.“ Vielleicht, weil sie keine enge Beziehung zu einem haben oder weil man nicht so im engeren Kreis ist. Weil man eher abgeschirmt bleiben soll. Vielleicht hast Du da auch Erfahrungswerte oder Ideen: Wie begegne ich Menschen, um auch deren Emotionen, deren Gefühle wertzuschätzen und gemeinsam im Dialog anzuschauen. Michael: Grundsätzlich denke ich ist es wichtig, dass man einfach erstmal jeden dann auch so akzeptiert, wie er sich präsentiert, denn auch da werden wieder Gründe, die wir vielleicht mehr oder weniger nachvollziehen können, dahinter stecken, warum jemand jetzt offen oder nicht so offen mit seinen Gefühlen umgeht. Ich habe nur selber die Erfahrung gemacht, dass je offener ich selber mit meinen Gefühlen umgehe, umso mehr schaffe ich eine Basis, schaffe ich das Spielfeld auch den anderen einzuladen, dann auch sich zu öffnen. Ja, ich habe auf dem Feld - lustigerweise, kann ich glaube ich sagen - ganz interessante Erfahrungen gemacht, dass auch Menschen, wo es dann hieß „Der hat noch nie darüber gesprochen und ist immer so verschlossen.“ Aber das Bedürfnis haben wir glaube ich auch alle, uns da mal ein bisschen Luft zu machen oder  sich ein bisschen zu öffnen und daher ist es gar nicht so schwer und eigentlich für jeden möglich, dass wenn man selber mit gutem Beispiel vorangeht, selber das Feld zu öffnen und schaffen, dann auch die Gelegenheit da ist, jetzt auch den Anderen einzuladen. Mehr kann man dann eigentlich auch schon nicht machen. Norman: Würde auch nicht funktionieren. Michael: Genau. Auch das, wie Du gesagt hast, dieses “ich weiß schon ganz genau”, das wäre wieder eine totale Unterstellung und würde den anderen daran hindern. Ich meine vielleicht würde er dann noch sagen: „Nee, nee. Es ist ganz anders.“ Oder so. Aber es schafft keinen guten Nährboden. Norman: Ich glaube auch heute in der Zeit, wo alles so schnell, schnell geht, kennt man ja auch, „Wie geht’s Dir?“, interessiert mich eigentlich gar nicht, was Du darauf antwortest. Ich wollte eigentlich nur sagen, „Hallo.“ Michael: Genau, dass sind so Floskeln. Norman: Da ändern sich dann auch Sprachen und ich glaube, dieser Mangel an Zeit und sich auch wirklich auch so mit seinem engsten Kreis intensiver zu beschäftigen, eine Beziehung herzustellen, das schaffe ich ja nicht über Facebook. Meine 200 Buddys bei Facebook sind ja nicht meine engen Leute, zu denen ich eine Beziehung aufbaue. Das heißt, wo ich mir wirklich auch die Zeit nehme um zu verstehen, wie geht es dem anderen. Für mich wäre vielleicht noch die Frage an Dich spannend: Wenn Du mit diesem Mindset in ein Gespräch gehst und der Idee der gewaltfreien Kommunikation folgst - wie erleben Dich die Leute oder wie erlebst Du die Leute, besser gesagt, wenn die eigentlich nicht so Mainstream-Gespräche kriegen, sondern mit Dir einen eigentlich außergewöhnlichen Dialog auf einmal eröffnet bekommen. Also sie bekommen ja wirklich ein Angebot sich selbst auch zu öffnen, weil Du es ja, wie Du gerade gesagt hast, vormachst. Hast Du das erlebt vielleicht irgendwann mal? Michael: Also es kommt dann wirklich auf das Setting an und auch auf meine Rolle. In der Mediation ist es natürlich eine besondere Situation und da ist auch oft so viel, da sind die Konfliktparteien so aufgeregt, dass die das gar nicht so bewusst wahrnehmen, sondern eigentlich eher diese Einladung benötigen, damit überhaupt Kommunikation zustande kommen kann. Also wenn man überhaupt erst einmal geschafft hat, je nach Stärke des Konflikts, dass dann zwei Konfliktparteien im Raum sitzen und man selber sozusagen dazwischen sitzt. Allein das kann manchmal schon dauern. In diesem besonderen Setting habe ich es eigentlich eher so erlebt, das auf keinen Fall in Frage gestellt wurde oder dass die sich denken was meinst Du denn damit, sondern das schafft eigentlich erst mal sozusagen eine Grundlage, um ins Gespräch zu kommen und auch um zu entschleunigen, das ist dann auch in solchen Fällen ganz wertvoll, weil dann kombiniert man zum Beispiel mit aktiven Zuhören. Das heißt, ich würde dann nochmal kurz zusammenfassen und so weiter und dadurch kommt auch eine Entschleunigung rein. Die können sagen, ja stimmt oder nee stimmt nicht, das und das meinte ich nochmal anders. Also dann hast Du eine andere Grundlage. Ansonsten privat oder auch in anderen Situationen, weiß ich jetzt gar nicht, inwieweit das bei mir so einfließt. Vielleicht stellenweise versuche ich es ein bisschen mit zu berücksichtigen oder zumindest auch was Du gesagt hast, diese Du-Botschaften oder so, dass man das einmal bei sich erstmal bleibt und zumindest nur beschreibt, wie es einem selber so geht. Und da sind dann die Reaktionen unterschiedlich. Meistens mache ich positive Erfahrungen damit, dass es dann auch eine Einladung oder dass es entwaffnend ist. Ich erinnere mich auch an ein Gespräch mit meinem alten Chef, den ich dann auf einmal so ganz weich wahrgenommen habe. Der sich dann zum ersten Mal auch geöffnet hat und so. So ganz schön, wo ich mir gedacht habe guck mal.  Ich habe auch immer so auf cool gemacht und wollte auch ein guter Verhandlungspartner sein. Ich wollte mich und meine Interessen natürlich in Gesprächen mit ihm gut verkaufen und als ich dann mal total aufgemacht habe und gesagt habe: Herr X, ich fühl mich so und so, schauen Sie doch mal. Da hatte ich zum ersten Mal auf einmal eine super Beziehung zu ihm aufgebaut. Also da ging es dann los, dass er mich glaube ich mal richtig gesehen hat. Ich habe aber auch schon die Erfahrung gemacht, dass es dann vom Gegenüber so wahrgenommen wie „Was willst Du denn da mit Deinem Pädagogengequatsche?“ Kann natürlich auch passieren, wenn ich es nicht gut genug - was heißt gut? - aber wenn ich es nicht optimal eingebaut habe oder so. Norman: Das heißt, Du würdest sagen: die Gefühle, die ich in diesem Moment meinem Gesprächspartner gegenüber habe, enthalten irgendetwas, was auch mit mir zu tun hat. Michael: Ja. Absolut. Ja, ja, ja. Wie gesagt, das haben wir ja insofern ein bisschen besprochen. Wenn ich jetzt davon ausgehe, dass so wie ich mich fühle, da hat eigentlich kein anderer damit was mit zu tun, sondern erstmal nur ich selber. Da habe ich nur selber die Verantwortung. Natürlich besteht ein Einfluss, ein Zusammenhang, aber ich selber übernehme dafür die Verantwortung und ich habe dann ja wieder mehrere Wahlmöglichkeiten. Die habe ich immer. Natürlich haben die Wahlmöglichkeiten unterschiedliche Konsequenzen, aber ich kann immer eine Situation verlassen. Ich kann immer sagen: „Ich möchte das so und so nicht.“ Oder so. Also ich bin eigentlich nie  ausgeliefert. Oder so versuche ich es zu verstehen und da sind wir wieder bei diesem Opferding: Nicht der Andere, sondern ich selber bin dafür verantwortlich, dass ich mich gut fühle und dass ich dem anderen auch zu verstehen gebe, wie es mir wichtig ist, dass man mit mir umgeht, damit ich mich nicht so oder so fühle. Oder ihm zu zeigen, warum ich mich so oder so fühle. Norman: Da gibt es auch einen schönen Spruch: Nur wenn ich mich zeige, werde ich auch gesehen. Michael: Ja, ganz genau. Norman: ... auch mit der Emotion. Also finde ich auch spannend. Lass uns praktisch werden. Lass uns einfach einmal verschiedene Situationen einfach mal kurz skizzieren. Nehmen wir doch mal die Rolle Mitarbeiter – Vorgesetzter. Da haben wir ja schon eine Hierarchie eingebaut in dieses Ganze. Michael: Absolut. Norman: Das was Du auch kurz angesprochen hast vorhin, was ja zu beobachten ist, ist dass man ja - das ist jetzt auch wieder eine allgemeine Formulierung, aber - dass oft, so ein Machtspiel stattfindet. Dass man irgendwie eine gute Figur vor seinem Chef machen möchte und dass der Chef irgendwie klarmachen möchte: „Ey, pass auf, die Entscheidung treffe ich.“ Wenn hier ein Konflikt entsteht, wie begegne ich dem Ganzen? Ist es dann ein guter Moment über meine Emotionen zu sprechen und mich dem Chef im Grunde zu öffnen, authentisch zu sein und anzubieten mit mir in diesen Dialog einzusteigen oder wie löse ich das dann? Michael: Ich denke schon aus Mitarbeitersicht aber ich finde ja auch die andere Perspektive, aus Chefsicht sozusagen auch, das ist dann auch spannend, glaube ich, weil das sind viele Mitarbeiter nicht gewohnt, aber das schafft dann auch nochmal eine ganz andere Atmosphäre und natürlich, wenn ich ein Unternehmen führe, mache ich das nicht nur aus reiner Nächstenliebe und Selbstlosigkeit. Ich habe natürlich bestimmte Ziele, die ich verfolge und bestimmte Interessen und das ist auch leitend. Aber dennoch denke ich tue ich gut daran, wenn ich zum einen wertschätzend mit meinen Mitarbeitern umgehe und ich glaube, dass es leichter ist und eine positive Arbeitsatmosphäre und ein Gefühl der Wertschätzung zu generieren, wenn man selbst auch was von sich offenbart. Weil das erlebe ich zum Beispiel selten. Ich stelle es mir auch nicht so leicht vor, weil ich kann mich jetzt auch nicht als Chef oder Führungskraft in jede Gefühlsduselei verlieren. Das kann ich auch verstehen, aber wenn einem das gelingt, da auch ein wertschätzendes Klima und auch einmal vielleicht zu sagen, „Du“, ich sage jetzt mal auch so eine Platitude aber, „Ich bin auch nur ein Mensch. Auch ich möchte wertschätzen, auch ich möchte, dass das so und so ..., weil ich mich dann auch so und so fühle.“ Das schafft auch für die Mitarbeiter ein ganz anderes Setting. Und das ist glaube ich in jedem Fall wichtig, dann entsteht eine ganz andere Motivation. Ich glaube, das ist ganz entscheidend. In jedem Fall, ob in einer Beziehung, Chef/Mitarbeiter. Meine zukünftigen Handlungen werden anders motiviert sein und zwar nicht aufgrund von Macht und Dominanz oder Unterdrückung, sondern aufgrund von Einsicht und Verständnis. Wenn ich ein verständnisvolles Klima auch als Chef erzeuge, dann werden meine Mitarbeiter besonders loyal sein und das gerne machen. Norman: Ich glaube, dass ist auch eine wertvolle Führungsqualität, wenn ich mich wirklich dafür entscheiden kann, gewaltfrei zu kommunizieren oder auch empathisch meinen Mitarbeiter oder Kollegen gegenüberzustehen, dann ist das glaube ich eine sehr gute Entscheidung - für alle Beteiligten. Das ist dann die berühmte Win-Win-Situation. Michael: Absolut. Norman: Ich stelle es mir nur sehr schwierig in der anderen Richtung vor. Wahrscheinlich schaffe ich es nicht als Mitarbeiter, wenn ich einen Chef oder Vorgesetzen habe, der seine Macht missbraucht. Michael: Dann wird es auf jeden Fall schwieriger. Norman: Dann wird es sehr schwer, mich emotional da auch zu entblößen. Aber angenommen, ich könnte denjenigen erreichen: Was könnte ich tun oder wie könnte ich dieser Situation begegnen, dass ich vielleicht meine Position, in der ich bin oder meine Situation in der ich bin irgendwie authentischer erleben kann, als irgendwas zu spielen? Michael: Wie gesagt, wenn es irgendwie möglich ist, kann man wirklich nur versuchen, das wirklich umzusetzen und einfach mal es darauf ankommen zu lassen und zu gucken, was passiert. Was passiert jetzt, bei dem ... Wir malen jetzt mal diesen machtbesessenen „bösen“ Chef, der mich ausbeutet und ich mich ganz vermeintlich schutzlos ihm ausliefere und sage: „Du - oder Sie -, ich fühle mich so und so und mir geht es so und so dabei.“ Ich weiß nicht was dann passiert, das kommt dann auch ein bisschen auf die Situation an. Aber was kann uns im schlimmsten Fall passieren? Da fällt mir auch wieder ein, das ist etwas, wo wir schon öfter darüber gesprochen haben. Es ist ja immer eine gute Strategie: Was kann mir im schlimmsten Fall passieren? Ich glaube was uns oft hindert, diesen Grad der Gefühle, diese gewaltfreien Kommunikation zu leben, ist, dass wir das Gefühl haben, wir wären schutzlos oder wir wären hilflos oder wir würden uns was vergeben oder wir würden schwach wahrgenommen werden. Ich glaube, das ist einfach der Punkt. Auch wenn ich selbstkritisch gucke. Aber es gibt häufiger so einen Moment in mir, wo ich mir denke, nein, dann bist Du schwach, wenn Du jetzt Gefühle zeigst. Aber dann zu verstehen, dass das keine Schwäche ist, sondern eine Stärke und aus diesem Gefühl der Stärke heraus zu handeln, wird - nicht immer aber häufig - auch belohnt. Norman: Und es zeigt sich ja, dass es eine Stärke ist, weil es die wenigsten können, sich trauen, viele Angst davor haben und ich glaube es ist einfach Mut, das zu offenbaren und dann wirklich auch so zu agieren. Michael: Genau. Das ist mutiger vielleicht als zurückzuhalten und zu verstecken und ... Norman: Konflikten aus dem Weg zu gehen. Michael: … Konflikten aus dem Weg zu gehen und wie vorhin schon angedeutet: ich glaube jedes unterdrückte Gefühl sucht sich dann irgendwo einen Weg. Das kann dann ganz unterschiedliche Wege gehen und ich würde jetzt mal eine These aufstellen, man muss da vorsichtig sein, aber das viele Krankheiten auch so beeinflusst sind. Norman: Michael, lass uns doch nochmal ganz konkret über Methoden sprechen. Also welche Methoden kannst Du uns nennen? Wie kann ich gewaltfreie Kommunikation tatsächlich anwenden, so in meinem täglichen Leben, in meiner täglichen Kommunikation mit Menschen? Michael: Wie auch vorhin schon gesagt, es ist jetzt auch nicht so, dass man das mal eben lernt. Das geht mir leider auch nicht so und es dauert einfach. Ich würde jetzt zum Beispiel wirklich empfehlen, wenn man sich jetzt genau damit beschäftigen will, dass man sich zum Beispiel auch wirklich mal ein Buch holt, mal ein Seminar macht und sich das mal genauer anguckt. Also das braucht einfach Zeit, weil wir sind so konditioniert; wir sind in unser Kultur und in unserem Sprachgebrauch so fest verwoben, dass es dann einfach dauert, um solche Muster aufzubrechen und umzuprogrammieren. Aber von den Ansätzen her: wenn ich jetzt in Gesprächssituationen einfach mal versuche immer daran zu denken, jetzt mal bei mir zu bleiben, vielleicht nicht sofort immer den Schuldigen im Anderen zu suchen. Meine alte Kollegin hat immer gesagt „Nicht nur mit dem Finger auf der Brust des anderen Du bist derjenige, der immer ...“ Das fand ich immer als Bild ganz gut. Dass ich wirklich diese Ich-Botschaften sende und sage ich bleibe bei mir. Norman: Ich nehme auch das Gefühl zu mir. Michael: Genau. Norman: Also dass was gerade dazwischen vielleicht so an sich nehmen, anzuschauen... Michael: Genau. Norman: ...und nicht wegzuschieben. Michael: Genau. Und einfach immer mal wieder versucht, in sich reinzuhorchen und ruhig das auch ins Gespräch mit einzubinden. Also auch meine Kollegin, von der habe ich viel gelernt früher, auch in der sozialen Arbeit, ganz praktisch und die hat dann immer, auch wenn wir untereinander oder in einer Teamkonferenz oder so waren, dann hat sie immer gesagt „Ich merke, wie ich jetzt richtig ärgerlich werde.“ Aber dann war allen klar, was vor sich geht und sie hat nicht gesagt: „Ihr macht mich ärgerlich.“ Oder so, sondern man hat gemerkt, okay, da geht jetzt sowas vor sich und konnte auch dementsprechend reagieren. Also so, einfach mal zu sagen: „Du, ich merke jetzt, jetzt geht es mir nicht gut. Ich weiß noch nicht warum.“ Aber dann ist man raus, erstmal. Und dann schafft man einen Spalt und kann auf ein anderes Gleis kommen, weil sonst geht es ja manchmal - das kennen wir ja auch alle in Konflikten - ganz schnell. Norman: Ja, ja. Michael: Wenn einmal ein Wort das andere... dann zack, zack, dann entsteht so eine Eskalation und wenn die Spirale da einmal in Gang gesetzt ist, je höher die taktet, umso schwieriger wird es halt dann auch rauszukommen. Deswegen ist es immer gut, frühzeitig zu versuchen dann mal ein Gefühl zu beschreiben, eine Ich-Botschaft zu senden und zu überlegen. Das ist ja auch diese gewaltfreie Kommunikation: Was brauche ich eigentlich? Was ich? und auch den anderen zu fragen: was brauchst Du eigentlich? Um weiter ein konstruktives Gespräch führen zu können oder übergeordnet zu sagen: „Was brauchst Du eigentlich, damit wir beide zusammen in Zukunft konstruktiv arbeiten können? Was brauchst Du da von mir?“ Oft sind die Sachen gar nicht so unterschiedlich, nur wir interpretieren sie unterschiedlich. Also dann wirklich einen Abgleich zu machen „Was brauchst Du?“ „Ich brauche einfach jetzt eine Orientierung, ich ...“ Keine Ahnung. Norman: Das ist übrigens eine richtig gute Frage. Das ist ein richtig guter Move. Also wirklich den Gegenüber zu involvieren, zum einen in die Gefühlswelt aber zum anderen das auch wirklich die Antwort abzuholen. Wirklich zu sagen: „Hey, was brauchst Du?“ Michael: Was brauchst Du? Damit bist Du auch sofort auf der Bedürfnisebene. Brauchen - Needing - ist sofort das Bedürfnis und dann muss man manchmal vielleicht ... „Ja, ja. Gute Frage, was brauche ich denn eigentlich?“ Aber das sind zum Beispiel so kleine Hacks, wie man Vorgehen kann. Alles andere bedarf der Übung, wenn man sich da jetzt weiter befassen will, aber alleine diese Sache, Ich-Botschaften, eigene Gefühle beschreiben, zu erfahren, was fühlt der andere? Was braucht der andere? Also, wenn einem das gelingt, ist dann schon, glaube ich, eine super Grundlage da. Norman: Michael, die Zeit ist fortgeschritten und ich glaube wir kriegen das komplette Thema nicht in eine Podcastfolge reingequetscht. Ich würde vorschlagen, habe ich mir gerade überlegt, lass uns eine zweite Folge machen. Michael: Sehr gern. Norman: Wie das Thema gewaltfreie Kommunikation im Zeitalter der Digitalisierung sich abspielt. Jetzt haben wir über grundsätzlich mal Kommunikation zwischen Menschen gesprochen, die natürlich Face-to-Face aber auch digital stattfinden kann. Vielleicht können wir dort noch eine eigene Folge aufnehmen. Hat mich auf jeden Fall total gefreut. Jetzt würde ich Dir das Schlusswort übergeben und Dich einfach fragen, hast Du noch so einen Hack, wie Du so schön gesagt hast, einen Tipp für unsere Zuhörer zum Thema gewaltfreie Kommunikation, den man sich einfach so mitnehmen und sofort umsetzen kann? Michael: Ehrlich gesagt, mein Pulver schon ein bisschen verschossen. Norman: Gibt es nicht einen besonderen Move? Michael: Auf jeden Fall jetzt nicht so oben auf. Ich denke einfach, was ganz wichtig ist und was ich versuche mir selber auch immer zu sagen ist, dass keiner einem eigentlich was will, sodass wir einfach davon ausgehen können, dass das alles okay ist und dass wir alle dasselbe wollen und in dieser Haltung, also einfach einmal, wenn man so einen Geist vielleicht mal versucht zu entwickeln, dann lässt sich auch angenehm kommunizieren. Norman: Genau so, lassen wir das stehen. Michael danke, dass Du da warst. Michael: Sehr gerne. Jederzeit wieder. Genau, wie Du schon gesagt hast, ist es sehr umfangreich, deswegen muss ich jetzt mal die Klappe halten. Vielen Dank für die Einladung! Norman: Jederzeit gerne. Vielen Dank. Danke Michael. Ciao.[/et_pb_toggle]     Noch ein wichtiger Aufruf: Es geht nicht ohne Dich. Und deshalb ist es sehr wichtig, dass Du diesen Podcast mit Deiner Bewertung bei iTunes unterstützt. 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  • Michael ONeal The Host Of The Solopreneur Hour Podcast Joins The Dots On The 100th Show

    · 01:14:39 · Entrepreneur Success Stories With Join Up Dots - Inspiration, Confidence, & Small Business Coaching To Start Your Online Career

    Todays guests is Mr Michael ONeal, the podcasting master behind the hit Itunes show "The Solopreneur Podcast". The top ranked business show, or The Solohour as it is known to its friends, teaching online marketing and entrepreneurship skills.  Michael is a man who quite simply without him, then I wouldn't be on the mic today. So you know where to send all your complaints too. He is a born entrepreneur with a fascinating story, of successes, setbacks, leaps of faith, and finding his unique path with the guidance of John Lee Dumas and Pat Flynn. Growing up in Philadelphia, the thought of being the host of his own podcast show was the last thing on his mind. He was a normal type of kid, obsessed with sport, finding trouble at school, and generally being a kid. But unfortunately that freedom of thought and energy changed when he was moved from his beloved Philly, and taken down to Florida, and it seems to me this was the start of him looking for his path in life. He didn’t fit in down in the Sunshine State, so as soon as he could, he got himself back up North, and discovered one of the first dots in his life that links him to where he is today…the internet. He was fascinated by the worldwide web, so developed skills to be a web designer. And that was his life for fifteen years, until unfortunately his parents both passed away in a very short time, and he found himself sitting with just $14 dollars in his pocket. He was over 30, with a decision forced upon him. Would he accept the punches that life had dealt him, or would he start fighting back? And that descision was made and he took the steps that made him “Know too much” and not want to work for anyone else again? He was going to become a solopreneur and own his own future. But how did he know he had the skills to be a success in the online arena? How did he know where his true passions lie? And does he regret inspiring guys like me to jump into the pool too? Well lets find out as we bring onto the 100th show to start joining up dots, the man on the mike, the host of the “Solopreneur Hour podcast”, the one and only Mr Michael O’Neal!   For more on the Solohour Podcast go to: The Solopreneur Hour Podcast with Michael O'Neal - Job Security...for the Unemployable By Michael O'Neal Chats with Proudly Unemployable Solopreneurs Like Himself Description They say successful people put their pants on the same way we all do. This show is about watching them put their pants on. Nominated As "Best New Show of 2013" by Stitcher Radio, Our range of guests takes us from comedy, to acting, to the NFL, to UFC and MMA, to Top Music Stars, to Millionaires, to Business Experts, to Real Estate moguls, and everything in between. Guests like Nicole Arbour, Adam Carolla, Hines Ward, Sam Jones, Tucker Max, Jonathan Fields, Derek Halpern, Pat Flynn, Amy Porterfield, John Lee Dumas, Chris Ducker, Chris Brogan, Guy Kawasaki, Mike Johnston, Rich Franklin, and many more, these casual conversations contain tons of action-inducing content wrapped up in an entertaining candy shell.   Yes hello. How are we all? Can you believe it. Episode 100. We have been building up to this for well, it seems like a hundred episodes and we are finally here. We have got a man who who quite simply rose to the top and was going to be the only person who would fit the mantle of being my 100th guest. And I’ve had people banging down the doors. I had Paul McCartney phone up the other day and say I want to be on the show, I’ve heard it’s a big thing and I said to him, “Paul, unless you can get the other four Beatles to join you, it’s not going to happen” We’ve had  David Bowie crying. It’s been pathetic really. So today’s man has been nailed on to do this today, and I’m absolutely delighted that he’s on the show because quite simply without him I wouldn’t be on the microphone. So you know where to send all your complaints to! He’s a man with a fascinating story of successes, setbacks leaps and finding his unique voice. Growing up in Philadelphia he was a normal type of kid obsessed with football at school, and generally being a kid. But unfortunately that freedom of thought and energy changed when he was moved from his beloved Philly and taken down to Florida and it seemed to me this to stop him looking for his path in life. He didn’t fit in down in the sunshine state so soon as he could he got himself back up north and discovered one of the first dots in his life that links him to where he is today the Internet. He was fascinated by a World Wide Web so develop skills to be a web designer and as he’s known for 15 years until unfortunately his parents both passed away in a very short time and he found himself sitting with just fourteen dollars in his pocket. It was over thirty with a decision forced upon him. Would you accept the punches that life had dealt him or would he stop fighting back and that decision was made and he took steps that made him know too much and not want to work for anyone else again. He was going to become a solopreneur and own his own future. But how did he know he had the skills to be a success in the online arena and how did he know where his true passions lie? And does he regret inspiring guys want me to jump into the pool too. Well let’s find out as we bring onto the show to start joining up thoughts the man on the microphone. The host of the Solohour podcast, the only Mr. Michael O’Neal. Well how are you Michael?   Michael O’Neal Oh here is what I can’t even what is happening. I am so flabbergasted by that intro. OK. Two things. Number one that was the best intro I’ve ever had. And formerly Chris Cerrone had that that title of the best in show to a show I’ve ever had. But it was one of the best I’ve ever heard for anybody which is why you are so the right person for this job. Well we’re all thankful you have a microphone in front of you David. Trust me on that. Second thing is I would pay to hear Zombie John Lennon if you could figure out a way to get all four Beatles on the show. That would be cool. David Ralph Well I can do Steve Jobs every day. So I might be able to do them as well. Michael O’Neal Ah so dude that was incredible. I am . I am flummoxed. David Ralph I’m so excited to be on David Ralph’s show. David Ralph – Yeah. Go go and do that because I know you have been doing an action of me on a few shows and we’ll show you a few times night. Yeah you got a little bumper for me on my show. I have these little things that when people ask you me I have a guest on the show that I have them do a little like Hi this is David Ralph and then I get interested in this opener with Mike O’Neill and your voice is so. What’s the first thing I ever said to you. I said you have the ultimate voice for radio. Didn’t I say that you did. Absolutely. David Ralph I haven’t got the face for television but I’ve got a voice for Radio Michael O’Neal Well as long as you’ve got the radio part worked out and you have taken this thing and you’ve run with it my friend. So I’m honored. I’m honored to be at the 100 episode Mark. Thank you. Thank you. David Ralph Absolutely. It is an honor to have you here because it is amazing when you start this thing,because you started your show what was it August 2013. Michael O’Neal Eleven month ago. David Ralph Yeah,11 months ago and now you are rocking and rolling with the best of them you surround yourself with, with the Internet movers and shakers the ziggers and zagers and you know you’re going to be humbled by this. So maybe you won’t. You are an online celebrity of note. When I was saying to people is my show a lot of people sort of touch on the shows of said to me I know who you’re going to have. And I said no you don’t. And I go Yes I know who you’re going to have and ego going and going to no one. And I when Martin O’Neill and I went oh term term how did I know. Really I know. Yes yeah I did it because I had pain you know I don’t want to suck up to you Michael but the early days I didn’t know what the hell I was doing. So I just kept on saying your name over and over again or some kind of benchmark of what I was trying to achieve because you like that you’d come out the gates really and say look like a rocket ship. It’s unbelievable. But you’ve only been around so long because it seems like you’ve been here ever in a day. Does it seems like that to you? Michael O’Neal It is weird. It does feel like it was yesterday that I launched the show. It feels really really recent to me that it happened. So but then at the same time I look at the memories that I’ve had over the last 11 months and all the cool benchmarks and you know different things that have happened and, but it’s packed full of stuff right. So I think if there’s any celebrity it’s sort of a z list celebrity and only at certain conferences. But yeah it’s been it’s been an incredible journey. I couldn’t be happier with how it’s gone. And I can’t wait to see what happens in the next 365. You know I’m really excited about that. David Ralph Is there a plan to the next 365 because you seem to me somebody who is very much stimulated by the now and then. Are you somebody who knows what you’re aiming to achieve? Michael O’Neal No I’m a notorious non planner. Much to the chagrin of my girlfriend who is a total planner and if I didn’t have the you know a calendar app on my phone I would be I would be completely floating out there now because I I wake up and I look at I go OK what do I have to do today. And then I see what’s going on for the day. And sometimes that doesn’t work out for me like in a social situation because people actually make plans to go out and do things. But and I’m not one of them. And all of a sudden it’s Friday I’m like I probably should have planned to do something. Yes I watch movies tonight. But yeah I I’m in an interesting spot right now because I have had this kind of five year run of as you mentioned in the intro bringing myself in this very circuitous path from $14 and not having a clear direction to now. When someone says What do you do. I say I’m a podcast host. And that’s a thing like I. That’s what I do. So I sort of a couple of weeks ago had an occasion to kind of put the cap on that five year journey and now I’m going to be looking ahead but I haven’t quite formulated what that ahead looks like yet. David Ralph And how did you do that? How did you put a cap on that. How did you say that is five years, finished boxed up? Michael O’Neal Well it was as i say I’m I’m a notorious non-celibrator. I’m a guy that usually gets to an achievement and then continues to go without acknowledging it. And I have what is probably a weird story that you’re asking for but hey here comes. So I’ve been a Porsche fan for my whole life. And you may already know where you’re heading with this but I was a Porsche fan my whole life and I don’t know why particularly. I was I had a Volkswagen in high school and I think that maybe planted to see a little bit and I was a car guy and so you know those Porsche ads from the 80s with like the big fender flares and the big wing. I think I was attracted to that and I eventually in 2003 I bought my first vintage Porsche so I bought a 1972 11 and it was a piece of crap. I bought it in New York. I didn’t know better. I drove across country midway across the USA and midway across the country the engine blew up. So that’s how badly. Where were you when this happened. I was in the dead heart middle of Nebraska when it happened in Nebraska I suppose. You it’s nothing. It is hundreds and millions of acres of wide open like cornfields and nothing else. I mean we are I was I have a picture of my car sitting looking like it’s a panther wading in the grass. Waiting to you know to prowl and it’s just sitting there with with like a hundred miles in each direction of grass. There was no middle of nowhere when it happened and I ended up finding a Volkswagen place 60 miles away that towed me in. And the guy dropped the oil pan in the car and just giant chunks of metal came out and I’m like I’m pretty sure that’s not how it’s supposed to be. So I ended up getting a tow truck driving it from Denver where I was living at the time and picking it up. Neither here nor there. So I eventually traded that piece of crap on and got a nicer one. Not when I bought it but in 2005 and I restored this car it took me four years and 2000 hours to restore this car back to better than factory condition when I still have it now. And as part of the dynamic this one in 1969 9/11 and the 69 through 73 nine elevens are very very sought after. They are the iconic 9/11. So when you would see Steve McQueen and a picture of him in the 60s you know you know in LA MA or something driving a 9/11 he was driving one of these sort of 69 to 73 virgins. And one of the sponsors of Porsche in the 60s was a company called Hoyer which was tag Hoyer before Tagg was involved in the mid-80s. So just Hoyer and it’s a guy named Jack Hoyer and he made these beautiful tiny pieces chronographs based on race timers. So you’d have a co-driver with you as a race car and there was a race in Mexico called the career of PanAmericana and the first Porsche Carrera was named after this particular race. So Hoyer as a sponsor of Porsche created a watch based on the chronographs that they used for the race cars and they called it the Hoyer Kura. So this was a very utilitarian type watch you could use it as a race time or you could just click one of the buttons and it had this chronograph on it. It was beautiful automatic beautiful timepiece. And as I’ve been going through this journey for five years this has been on my vision board because these are about three grand and above to get one of these watches. But that was so superfluous for me because I had no i like zero money. And for me to spend three grand on something as excessive as a watch wasn’t even on my radar. So about a month and a half ago now I was in this position where I was like this could be the time. And I scoured the world. I ended up buying a 1972 Hoyer Carrera from a guy in France and it came to my house and it was more beautiful in person than I. I’d never seen one in person is more beautiful than I even thought it could be. And I remember at the mid midday I’d gone to this little swimming pool by my house I belong to this little pool club which is where I work out and I was swimming in the middle of the day two o’clock in the afternoon like Tony Soprano in the middle of a work day and thinking I just did this like this just happened. This 5 year journey comes stops right now like this is where my new journey begins. I’ve gone through this trial by fire. I’ve come out hopefully like a phoenix. I’m in a position where I can buy this watch now which is insane to think about and I’m peaceful and grateful for the life that I’ve built. And so that for me was the cap of a five year struggle. I mean a real struggle to get to where I am today. David Ralph Mr. O’Neill is a perfect story. It started and it made me think if I’m ever in a pub quiz and a question about Portia comes up you’re my man that does it to Luli you are obsessed by that and you. The amount that you were quoting then. Michael O’Neal Ah. I mean I think. I think it’s kind of a lifetime obsession for people that become afflicted by it. In fact there’s a great ad I will send it to you on YouTube and there’s an ad for the new Porsche about the time the new Porsche Carrera ad and it was there it’s a little boy. And he’s a little kid in his classroom and he’s daydreaming and on 9/11 drives by him and you just see him like looking out the window and his pencil drops and you know then he he gets in trouble. And then he runs to the you know was on his BMX bike to the Porsche dealer after school and and he you know he ends up sitting in this car and the steering wheel is bigger than he is and you see Mike raised his head he’s 12 or something and that he goes to the dealer or the guy goes you have a card and the guy goes yeah here you go and he goes I’ll see in 20 years. And then there’s this great voice over that says something like there’s a there’s a there’s a particular moment that happens with you know a Porsche fan. There’s that time you want one. Then there’s the time you get one and for the truly affected afflicted there’s the 20 years in between. And it just like it gives you the chills and my buddies sent it. I sense my body goes man. Pass the Kleenex. So I guess there is a real passion there for this. It’s a very visceral feeling that is so different because of the way they build their cars and because the engines in the rear and it’s a totally different experience than you have with with any other vehicle that yeah there becomes a real passion a real obsession with him. Did you read that because this shows about joining up dots, but do you remember as a young kid having the same kind of obsessive compulsive in both words and things when when you was a little kid running around the streets of Philly pretending you Rocky did most will keep you alive without paying him for the Michael O’Neal No no no. I was a BMX kid. Now I was I was in a suburb. I was the only gentile I was in a super Jewish town north of Philadelphia. And I was a BMX or I rode my BMX bike. I mean I was from 1984 until I mean I was racing bikes from 84 until 2000. David Ralph So Rocky wasn’t on your radar at all? Michael O’Neal No not at all. Tony Hawk and Dave you know Dave Voelker and Matt Hoffman and you know BMX guys Bob horo. They were all on my radar. I’ll tell you here’s here’s a little here’s a join up dot that is current. I rode an entire daywith real wow I just blanked on his name. That’s embarrassing really. I’m killing myself right now this is bad radio. David Ralph What  does he look like? Michael O’Neal He’s a big famous director now and he will watch films John Malkovich. Being John Malkovich won a friggin Oscar. We’re ready. Come on. With it and it might seem seamless Spike Jones for crying out loud. David Ralph Spike Jones Michael O’Neal Yeah Spike Jones the director was a dude I rode with at a place called Rockville BMX and we were just BMX or dudes riding around. And then he he became a photographer for one of the BMX magazines and then started doing filming because he did Beastie Boys first video I forget which one and then started doing independent films then did Being John Malkovich and now he is like an international you know massive director like one of the best most well-reputed directors in the world. And it was kind of cool. I mean so he did adaptation he did Being John Malkovich Where the Wild Things Are You know just just done amazing stuff. So the Academy Awards. And so a pretty pretty bad ass. He did her you know the movie Her most recent Yeah that’s Spike Jones. David Ralph So is there any similarity between the young kid in Philly and now, because from what I see across the pond and I listen into the conversations that you have with your internet guys and it does seem from this side of the pond that you’ve got a gang of friends and followers and whatever that basically control the Internet. I had Rick Mulready on the show. And I said “Do you ever feel like slipping something into Pat Flynns drink, so that the next morning you turn on your screen and see if there’s a black hole on the Internet because he’s not functioning at this time because it kind of seems not” But he wouldn’t be pushed in to slipping a Mickey into his drink in any shape or form. But you seem a little bit edgy to most of them. Michael O’Neal Yeah. David Ralph Is that because you’re from Philly. Is it because he’s a very sort of industrial Con. Its a real city you know. Its like a working class city when you’re there. Michael O’Neal Yeah I think the the edginess is something that I’m kind of a known for. I don’t know if you curse on your show but I’m kind of a no B.S. kind of guy and I’ve never been one to straddle the fence very very much. And I think what happened with Irwin what happens with a lot of these sort of Internet type celebrities is that they’re so concerned about getting the broadest audience that they sometimes come off as being a little bit milktoast or a little bit vanilla. And I come from a totally different perspective where when you think about media you think about New York Philadelphia Boston. These are like the media centers of the world. It’s where you know you go to Boston College that’s one of the broadcasting school that’s where Howard Stern went. That’s where many very famous broadcasters come from those places I went to Temple University which has an incredible media department. And when you look at the people that are iconic in history they’re not people that are vanilla. There are people that have strong opinions one way or the other and people either love them or they hate them but they’re definitely them. So they definitely have a presence. They definitely have a voice that’s unique to them. And I think I always think it took me a little while to settle into that on my show but it is ultimately as you as I developed the show and I developed my own voice I realized hey I’m not in the interest of pleasing everybody. Like that’s not my job. My job is to talk from my perspective on certain issues and try to extract really good business advice from people without them or my audience really seeing what I’m doing. And one of my favorite quotes to that is and you probably heard me say before but which just never let him see your work. You know that’s from Bill Cosby also from my alma mater Temple University in Philly and that basically means that go through your process ask your questions you know have questions written down but you don’t have to be so blatant about it. You can you can ease through you know great standup comedians do this like Louis C.K. talks you know he’ll be sputtering and angry and going through all this process on stage and you think that that’s just how he is. You laugh at his angry energy but he knows all the beats within that he knows exactly what he’s doing within that realm and that is that is him not letting you see him work on him. David Ralph When your on the mike then how much is you now being absolutely authentic and how much is it creating a mood creating an atmosphere on the show. Michael O’Neal Well it can’t. Can’t you have both? David Ralph Oh I don’t know CAN you? Michael O’Neal What are you asking? Are you asking how much is sort of pre-written and how much is off the cuff? David Ralph Well on this show for example some of the things I say I only say to get a reaction from the guest. You know do I really mean it kind of. Do I think that they will go against it. Yes. So I will say it. How much do you actually say that you believe 100 percent. Michael O’Neal Well first of all you do that because you understand this and you’re a pro. I mean this is a very natural place for you to end up. So I think that that I do very similar things to you, as you do just because yeah sometimes you want to extract some stuff from a guest that is being difficult. But yeah I mean I’m pretty authentic dude. I there’s not a lot there’s people that have met me in real life and go Oh you’re exactly like you are on the show. Yeah Im exactly like I’m in the show. I turn it on and I talk so I don’t have this, I’m not affected in any way. I just go. David Ralph So you’re not like you haven’t got a human graphic equalizer when you press record you just kind of increase certain parts of your personality. Michael O’Neal Not really. No. This is pretty much how I am. Yeah I’ll speak like I speak. I’m probably slightly dirtier in real life. David Ralph Well you don’t know where the words will land do you! Michael O’Neal I probably curse a little more which is fine. I’ve done a few podcasts now where I was allowed to do that and it did make it really nice. David Ralph Are you in the same situation as me because I used to listen to your show all the time and it was a staple diet during my transition at that time and now I’m doing this. One of the failures of me is that I don’t get time to listen to other people’s shows. I listen to your one  the other day because I just suddenly realized I had a gap but you almost become an island of your own success where before I used to listen to shows and I used to think oh I’ll take a bit of it and I’ll take a bit of it and become like a magpie. And now I don’t know what vibe is out there and I don’t know whether I’m being edgy or whatever. It just seems to be you. Speaking to the mic and I throw it out to the world and hopefully it goes well. It seems to be a fault of mine, and so do you have the same thing? Michael O’Neal No I’m exactly the same way. I’d say partially by choice and partially by by time. So when I when I do have time to consume podcasts I don’t tend to go business. I tend to go comedy. And lately I tend to go NFL football. I listen to podcasts related to that because I want to be able to clock out a little bit when I do want real inspiration. I’ve been listening to here’s the thing with Alec Baldwin it’s WNYC. I’ve not heard a better intro or production or interview style than that show. It’s his in his intros are nothing short of brilliant. I mean they’re amazing how he brings a guest on an and then how he interviews and his questions are very in-depth and he’s such a pro that it makes it really easy for me to like look at that bar and go OK that’s where the soul open for hours going. That’s what I do. I actually honestly David I find now the more that I get into this show the more I almost can’t stand other people’s shows like there so few that can capture my attention and that I feel like are being done well even with really good friends of mine that do shows I just go and that is almost unlistenable. You know it’s so. So I just don’t I definitely look far above the kind of Internet Marketing slash business world for inspiration on how I want to run mine. David Ralph because the only two that I listen to now is yours. And I went on started. I wanted to listen to every single one. And but the nerdiest and there the only two reasons. Yeah great and Nerdist is good for a number of reasons. David Ralph Yeah I just like the way it kind of flows and you don’t even know it started and it just kind of teases right. Michael O’Neal That’s right. Yeah they just start it. We kind of did that today didn’t we. David Ralph Yeah absolutely and that was the good stuff. Michael O’Neal And we talked for a while before we started recording. You know me I mean it just felt like yeah hit it. Go for it. We’ll start like Nerdist. But yeah no I think that there’s a sense there’s such a glutton of new shows out there and I don’t. but if I’m being opinionated I don’t. There’s a lot of places where people are learning quote on quote how to podcast. And I think they’re feeding them crap information.So often a big problem. David Ralph And I know he’s a mate of yours and I wish him all the success in the world, but the problem is so many people are trying to duplicate John Lee Dumas and that’s not right. He came first and he created the structure of his show, and whether you like that format or whatever that is he’s and he’s made in his own by being him. And I hear these shows and after about three minutes I think oh my god it’s the same thing again. Now I will listen to your shows and I will go all the way through. But people miss a trick don’t lay up coming back to my all the time is finding your authentic self playing to your streams. And and if you do that you create a bigger loyalty. You know if you are totally yourself people either hate you or like you but the ones that like you will love you. And that’s where these people are missing out because they’re not even being authentic to themselves they’re just kind of a middle ground. Michael O’Neal Yeah. And John would tell you and I’ve said this a million times in front of him and said do you the success of your show or his show has nothing to do with his format. And it has nothing do with him as a podcast for that all. It has everything to do with the fact that he has a financial background writes great marketing copy and has a schedule and a rigidity too. He has a military rigidity because he was in the military to his to his business. And unless you come with that exact kind of background you will not have success in that way. People think that because of the way he does his show because it’s structured and because he has these set questions and does it seven days a week that that’s why he’s successful and is completely irrelevant to that. So the problem is is like you said so many people listen to that or they go to podcasters paradise and they learn a certain way to do things. And I’m almost diametrically opposed to every single thing that they’re learning. So it’s like it’s like man I it’s it’s frustrating for me in that way. And I shouldn’t say that like I want to rephrase that I’m not time actually oppose everything they’re learning what I’m what I’m worried about is that the things that I think make podcasting successful aren’t emphasized in a lot of training courses. And like you just said finding your own voice is a number one you have to be successful. You have to find your own voice and you have to have a great brand and it’s not something that people speak about a lot. Like I took a lot of cliff Ravenscroft stuff. I’ve taken all the stuff. I’ve seen a number of course is out there a lot of them don’t pay a lot of attention to that piece and I worry that with this next phase of podcasting and what’s you know since everyone’s starting a show they’re going to find it a lot harder to sustain it unless they’ve found their own voice on their voice. And and it’s within this brand that they’ve really created. So we’ll see. But that’s the jury’s out on that. David Ralph Did you really have to love doing this because I’m going to play a speech in my Jim Carrey and I’m actually I’m going to play now and we’re going to talk afterwards. This is Jim Carrey. Jim Carrey Sound Clip My father could have been a great comedian but he didn’t believe that that was possible for him. And so he made a conservative choice. Instead he got a safe job as an accountant. And when I was 12 years old. He was let go from that safe job. And our family had to do whatever we could to survive. I learned many great lessons from my father. Not the least of which was that you can fail at what you don’t want. So you might as well take a chance on doing what you love. David Ralph Is that the true message that we should be getting across? Michael O’Neal Yes it is unfortunately the connecting of the dots joining of those two dots which is I found this thing that I love and now I have to figure out how to get paid for it is difficult. That’s a difficult journey. And that’s my that was my five year journey. Right. First not even knowing what it was that I loved. I had no idea I was going to podcast five years ago but I had an initial foray into public speaking. I started teaching social media on stage and I ended up traveling and going to 17 cities teaching people how to use social media to grow their business and I found it very like oh this is something I could be good at. And then that morphed into doing back end production on a podcast for a year and a half and just starting to understand the podcasting industry that finally morphed into me starting my own show and here we are. But it was a five year journey to find that you know like I had indicators of it and if someone in 2009 it said hey do you want to get. You want to make six figures and be a public speaker. I be like totally that be great. But at the time I had nothing to speak about. And now I do. So it’s kind of a I I do feel like you have to find something that will and you’ve probably seen this in your life with your show something that will make you walk into that studio and record an episode even if you’re exhausted or not in the mood or whatever because you truly love it and you’re excited about it. Oh yesterday. That’s how I am. Yeah I’ve had times when I’ve recorded 12 shows back to back and now I’ve. Why just because I knew I was going to do it seven days a week show and that was the hardest time I had. I had no internet for two weeks he just crashed on me and I suddenly panic but I didn’t have enough to cover. And I was going away as well. So yes seven days a week he goes out and I needed the boke. And so I did it and I started off at six o’clock in the morning and I just went through through move through and I edited and I did everything in the gap between when I recorded the next one and he just went seamlessly. And when I pressed record yes I was on I was on. Once I was off it was just like I was you know on drugs or something I was just slump too much. But it wasn’t until the very last ones that I realized actually about that passion that you’re talking about the ability to actually do it when you’re tired. I’ve gone past by and I was actually feeling ill. And I remember doing this show and the sweat was pouring off me and I listened back to and it doesn’t sound like it but I realized brain actually no you’ve got to look up to yourself as much as you do actually doing something. Yeah I’m very committed to that. DAVID It’s I have I have three sort of pillars if you will that I do I think make a good soul a partner or a successful soul a partner. And there’s there’s time freedom there’s financial freedom and there’s location freedom. And so the first one is really easy time freedom simple you walk into your boss’s office tell him to go screw himself and then you have time freedom. There you go. Location freedom. You can pretty much just get in a car and go somewhere that we have that kind of freedom in the U.K. and in the United States. Yeah there’s some complications in between. But technically you can just go do that. It’s the financial freedom part. That’s the tricky part of the three. That is a little harder. But I find that I’m so unwilling to compromise my time freedom. I’ve turned down so many more so much more money because it would compromise my time freedom like I could have a lot more coaching clients and a lot more people in my my group coaching. It’s called Solo lab. But with that I would have to commit another couple of days to taking care of them and I’d I’m willing to do that at all. Like i will i love my life the way it is right now and I can be comfortable financially I can go do fun things. And I don’t have to compromise that. And you know hopefully I can continue to grow and continue to you know make more money maybe have more speaking gigs things like that but I don’t intend on working any harder. I just want to you know work smarter maybe try to over deliver a little more to my audience and that’s what I’m looking for. Well was sensible and that’s exactly what I want to do as well because I hate these people and it’s almost like a badge of honor. But I’ve quit in nine to five job. And then you go yes I’m an online marketing do I do this I’m a diva and I cook my time and I’m doing 80 hours a week and I think right. Right. What the hell do you do that. Why don’t you just do two days hard work and have the rest of the time of it. It seems stupid that I say that. That’s right. And it’s. It does. It is counter intuitive. The thing is when my parents passed away you mentioned this in the intro when they did that. My perspective on time completely shifted and I just I. Life’s too short. So I am very much a person that says both. When someone says would you like this or this. I say both. When I get an opportunity to do something I say yes. Win you know and I just do it like it’s a thing that I have committed to and not mentally like I don’t just go yeah this is what I’m going to do from now on. I just do it now I just say yeah let’s do that. That sounds fun. Let’s just go for that. I’m going to go on a hike. Yeah. Great book a ticket. You know and we just do it. And I found that that has served me really well because when I do that and I put that as a priority in my life then the the stuff that I’m not so thrilled about I still end up having to do it. It still fills in the blanks but my priority is to really extract the most that I can out of my life and I’ll tell you not a person that does that well I think as John John Lee Dumas he works probably a little more like the person you were just mentioning. He works a lot but he’s also great at saying yes when when something comes across his desk he goes yeah lets do that. And it’s like on the schedule. And I think that’s that’s part of I think what that’s part of success. To me that’s part of what success feels like is being able to do that. I remember hearing an interview with Billy Joel and the interviewer said to him Billy you’ve sold X squillion albums and singles and you’ve done these tours and you play Madison Square Garden five straight nights. What has success given you. And he just said time and that was it. He can wake up each morning and if he doesn’t want to do something he doesn’t. And that single word resonated with me hugely especially when I was in my 9 to 5 job and I realized then that things were not right. And why should I be doing a nine to five job when there are options I suppose. I began to know too much. And then once you know too much brain you realize you can’t ever go back. Michael O’Neal Yeah. It’s really really is a one way street. It also but that carries over as well into my personal life as well. And I think when the there’s ever such a different confidence now just in my life in general and I think Billy Joel would sort sort of anybody that reached a level of success has this this this underlying confidence about them that is very attractive not only to you know the opposite sex but it’s what attracts other successful people to you. There’s just there’s a subtlety in actions and just how really how you go through life when you’re confident that is very attractive to you know both both people both sexes and that is something that people pick up on pretty easily. You become a success back humor don’t you. You know the old Jim rhône thing about you know the average of you know five people to surrender a lot of people I talked to. Yeah. I mean a crappy job and all these miserable people all the time. How can I surround myself. And one of the things I say to them is you know focus on success because the more success you get and the more competence as you say they end up a successful people get sucked into your world and suddenly you created what he was saying. It’s not easy to do. But it certainly is a mindset that starts moving in that direction. That’s right. And you it’s funny you just asked that question of me is how do you now you’re on it you’re on an island so you’re you’re in the UK you’re not. I’m in San Diego so I get to have a bunch of people around me at all times. I will say though we don’t get together. I mean you know we get together as friends but I’m not in a mastermind with any of these people around me. We don’t sit there and me out. So you know to answer your question I’m mean answer answered on my show tomorrow. But you’ve got to join a group you’ve got to join a group mastermind of some sort. And there’s really no other way. If you if you’re not surrounded by those five people that that you feel are motivating you in a way that that is bettering your life and hopefully their lives. You’ve got to separate from those people and find the people that are doing that and pretty much everyone I know that’s in this you know business Internet Marketing podcasting world has some sort of coaching program. And my best advice is to get people that you really enjoy like how they speak and like how they deliver and join their group and that’s it. And you know once you’re a part of that community you’ll be a lot more apt to be motivated you know learn the things you want to learn. It’s part of the reason why I don’t need to listen to podcasts anymore because I have so many people in my group that are doing cool things. I get to learn about all the cool new stuff without having to go listen. They sort of comes to me. So so do you now feel that you’re ahead of the curve. Because when when you started the show I remember you saying it’s the Wild West and now it seems like every man Dogan whatever has made me a podcast. So do you think now about you it’s not the Wild West but you actually ahead of the curve. It’s good. Get a question. Yes and no I think it’s still the wild west. I think that people in this environment aren’t necessarily looking in the right direction to advance their business where they should be. Let me clarify that. I think inspiration for how someone’s podcast get better gets better doesn’t happen within the new podcasting community. It happens with old media. Then you go look at how you all learn how to interview you go study Howard Stern if you want to learn how to produce an an excellent show. You go you know you look at and some an NPR show or something like that like a where a BBC show something that you know pay close attention to how people are introducing guests and what they’re how they do their ads and how they integrate you know clips from this person’s body of work into their intro or into the show itself. So I think there is really a professional side to this that will ultimately come out. For me personally what I’ve realized over the last couple of months and this is something that I think you can you can sort of strap on as a badge of honor as well is that I’m a better interviewer than most. Just in general I’m more intuitive and I have more range of knowledge so I can connect those dots. You know I can join those dots. And that’s what makes for a compelling and entertaining interview no matter who you are it’s the people that have the pre-scripted questions that I think are really going to struggle because that’s that’s very exhausting to an audience. So on one side I think I’m still really ahead of the curve in that. I come from this and as do you come from this background this history of paying attention to interviewers and then sort of bringing this natural ability to the microphone that 99 percent of people don’t have. And that’s the building not only to interview someone in a business sense and extract what they do for a living but actually make an entertaining hour of programming for someone. And in my opinion they can get the business data from 80000 podcasts that are on iTunes but it’s really hard to get entertainment out of it. And that’s what I’m trying to bring to the table and I think that’s what you do a really great job bringing to the table as well because because what I’ve realized you know was a complete nobody is basically the very first interview I did was no you weren’t Yes. Stop it. Tom Mocha’s was episode your line on the line. Me right now David. And he was a huge inspiration to me so I wanted him as guest number one. And he was talking to a gentleman called John Lee Dumas and so awful who’s is CHEP never heard of him. And I went over to his show and the very first show I listened to was episode 3 2 2 which was yourself and kidding. That was I didn’t know that. Yeah that was the very first episode. And the fascinating thing about it was which got me on the show and this is my sort of join up thought was the fact that everything you see in life is normally about benchmarking against success. You see people already Veja and you go I’d like to do that but it worked for him he’s had this skill he’s got that you know he’s a natural that’s for sure. On that show on 0 5 3 2 2 you hadn’t even lunged and he was saying to you you know when are you going to go and you and I’m going to go on Wednesday or whatever it was. And I tuned in and I listened or whatever you do you click on it you don’t tune into you. But I heard you speak for the very first time and I found it fascinating because I was seeing but not some bouts of somebody finding their way. And you was saying Yeah and I had 17 downloads and it wasn’t that you were looking at success you were looking at somebody finding their flow finding them. Moving on. And that’s right. But that’s what really flavored my show was the fact that you were doing something that seemed natural and you were holding your hands up and you going really. I don’t know if this is going to work but hey if it doesn’t change we’ll move on later on. And remember you did this show and it was it was some chap I don’t remember who was with them on the on the beach somewhere and calls were whizzing past and your battery ran out half way through. Yes and yes you still put out and I thought that’s interesting because what he’s saying back is not that this show has got to be polished and perfect what he’s saying is is a journey and I’m going to improve from that and that be the last time that my battery runs out halfway through. That’s right and it was definitely the last time that happened. Yeah. Yeah it’s a good way to good insight. I see. If I were doing it again yeah I would probably do the same thing again. I was I’ve been always sort of a fan of the let’s just put it out at that at that time. I was leaning more on my hopeful interview skills than I was like ultimate show quality and since I’d already put out a couple of episodes it wasn’t that bad but I really loved the guys story. So I was like yeah there was Harry. Harry Smith was the guy’s name and. And. And I thought yeah let me let me throw that on. And why not. What happened. You know and somewhere. This is what’s so cool about this right. You heard one single episode I did from Johnny Dumas which was like a random occurrence. And look how much it’s affected both of us. Yeah. Just that one thing. So if one little episode you put out catches the right person it can literally be life changing. I will say something. I want your listeners to go to solo our solo our dotcom and I want you to go back to like three. I don’t know let’s say pre 70s so anything from episode like I don’t know one until episode 70 and I want you to click on those posts and read how great David’s comments are for the episodes. They are so insightful and brilliant. And you do such a great job summarizing. I think I even wrote you once and said Do you want to write my show summaries. Remember that you did and it was just that the crux of me doing this and I knew I was just going to stall so cool. So I am and you still you just did it the other day when you were that episode you listened to. You do such a great job summarizing. You’re going to be such a smash successful podcast. David Yeah I have no doubt whatsoever you are going to I hope you will let us be on your show someday when you do these live broadcasts in front of you know a hundred thousand people at the Wembley Stadium. Did you know when you start this and I’m really going to open up here so I don’t really have a Chevez. But when you start based you want it to be so good and you want it to be brought in and you kind of. There were job. You look back on them and you go OK yeah that wasn’t quite where I wanted to be but it was all right. And then you hit sort milestones and you listened back to some of these shows I don’t know if you listen to yours and I thought oh that was a bit closer to what I had in my head my original vision. And I got to show it E.T. and that’s when I suddenly realize Michael that was the host of a show and it was my responsibility to be the host to even I think he was too grateful for people giving up their time to be on my show. I it was a complete mind set. Now I want this to be the biggest show out there. I absolutely do. And it’s all I can focus in on and it’s in many ways it’s killing me or my life is totally out of whack. But all I want is about is the number one thing upset that on any show because it sounds a bit arrogant really I’m upset. Once we’ve stopped recording them when somebody asked me about it that is where I want to be and I want to be join up not as a brand. Exactly as you say. Right. Because it’s one of those things that you kind of go join up towards. What does it mean. And I’m very aware of if you provide quality and content as quality brand in many ways take care of itself. It’s like we always talk in the early episode the name that was always mentioned was Pat Flynn. And you know he’s got that classic smart passive income and you forget that’s a premium brand but actually he’s only three words put together and he’s because he’s provided that great content and quality and value. But it becomes the kind of the trust word where what he’s trying to achieve. That’s right in he that he can live that now. But I actually want I want to focus on something you said just before that you will be bigger than him and so will I. And I know I don’t mean that like he doesn’t have the same aspirations as you do. Right. And I’m saying in terms of podcasts in terms of like Pat wants to speak I’m not speaking for him here but just knowing what I know about him. He he is sort of the crash test dummy of internet marketers. So he does all these really cool things on the web. I want my show to become about like I want to. I want to be interviewing complete legitimate A-listers you know and finding out about their kind of business and so normal journey. That’s where I will see the show going. And because of that if when and if I get to that point. The show the podcast itself will be bigger than all of the internet marketing type podcasts. Does that make sense. Yeah it’ll be way bigger than that. It’ll be more like Nerdist. You know Chris Hardwick gets killer guests on his show and that’s why his podcast is you know number one number two number three on iTunes overall. And so it’s it’s one of those things that that I it’s what I aspire to do as well is to get working within this world like real A-list category of people because I think that they’ll appreciate talking about their journey. And so that’s where I want to head with that. Also I was very strategic and I changed direction. I realized that when I started I was just throwing out the net to anyone and anyone would jump on the show. I would have them round about sort of thing once again I thought to myself no I can’t do this because when I was looking at other people’s shows I was thinking Oh I’ve been on my show I’ve been on my show and it was just the sort of hybrid of people doing the rounds. So I went off in a different direction. So if you listen to episode 88 I had Cathy O’Dowd who was the first woman to hit the summit of Everest from both sides. I’ve got the first civilian astronaut coming on the show. I’ve got a chap over a few years ago was worldwide news because he sold his life on e-bay and he’s just sold his life to Disney and all that kind of stuff. So I realized I had to change direction to become more unique to be more interested by the stories more. Yes. Extract out of them what I wanted to show to the world and that was my original vision but I couldn’t say Eva until later on in the journey. Yeah and that’s really what you’ve done. That’s the whole point. That’s why you will be successful because you’ve you’ve done this in a sort of a different way in your life when you look back to sort of the Philadelphia kid and you riding around on your BMX and all that kind of stuff. Well you just sort of wanting to be the classic sports kid was. If you look back and now we all going to send you back in time soon on the Sermon on the mike. No I was a show off though. I think I think I was you know a performer of some sort and the PA is I keep is that makes my colonial who he is to play better racquetball with an audience. Yes. Every single time. Yeah I think so. I think there’s that’s there that’s in there. It’s in the DNA for sure. I don’t use that a lot but it’s in the DNA. I work better in a performance environment which is presumably why I kind of screw myself on the show intentionally. I don’t I I prepare in a way where I I’ve researched my guest as you have. You know you know and you certainly listen to the show but at times you know a little bit about me and you’re able to then naturally structure questions that that dovetail into my history and that’s what a good interviewer does. I don’t write a lot of questions out sometimes intentionally and that’s because I there’s something about the performance side. I realize now that I’m I’m doing this the shows this this month I’ve got over 300000 downloads for the first time and this is a and I realize so there’s people listening and I have to perform. You know what I like it. It makes me it UPS my game. I’m live on the show. And I think I do that to myself on purpose because because I work better in that environment a lot maybe underpressure a little. Well we’re very similar. It’s fascinating. I feel like I’m finding out the real Marcantonio here. Where is the person behind the that the presenter. Because I am somebody who has spent my life doing training courses and presentations and that’s my job. I’ve never done this kind of thing. It was totally BA and I’m somebody very much likes to be on their own likes no one near them. And then when I suddenly go ping. That’s it. It’s performance time. And I don’t know if it’s showing off or trying to create a different persona for myself because that’s kind of not naturally me. But I do have the ability to raise my game and present a different side to myself if you know me deep down you would say to me different people that the people who know me from seeing where I allow them to see me they would say yeah you it’s like I’m on the mike as you are when you normally doing those things because I’m letting them see what they want to see. Yeah. Yeah I mean I think there’s there’s an element of that and again I want people to understand this is why we and we talked earlier about sort of what John brought to the table. And I’m you know people look at my show and say it’s it’s been it’s it’s been pretty successful in the first 11 months just overall debt is not that’s not a fluke because I didn’t just start in August of 2013 with kind of media. You know I’ve been a professional drummer my whole life. I’ve performed I’ve been on I’ve been a racer I’ve been you know a competitive racquetball player for for many many tournaments for many many years now and before that it was tennis. So I’ve always been performing in some way or the other. I I coached for five years on teaching people social media in front of huge audiences. I’ve played Red Rocks in front of 10000 people like me being on a microphone and being natural at it is not something that happened overnight. It’s a it’s this is something that you walked in with. You’ve been training for years before you turned a mike on yourself. So it’s kind of like Yeah right yeah. You were new to podcasting but not nuda trying to translate a concept from one person to an audience like that’s something you’ve been doing for a long time. So so that’s I think that it’s a bit of a misnomer within our industry that yeah anybody can you know podcast or anybody can start blah blah blah. That’s kind of cool I get it. Yes technically you can turn on an app you can go to boss jock on your iPhone and upload it to clips and you’ve got a podcast but can you do it. Well can you do it so that when someone switches from morning radio or Howard Stern or the BBC to your podcast that they don’t notice a huge drop off in quality or you know sound quality interview quality production quality that’s that’s what I try to bring the table and I think you do the same thing. So is that what you’re saying really and I’m going to play the words of Steve Jobs because he says it very well as well but no experience is wasted. It doesn’t matter what you’ve done in your life you will pull elements and you extract what you need to create your new path. Out 100 percent. Absolutely yes. Everything you’ve done up until this point is does training for you for this next phase. When I have people on their show and we have these episodes called Find your swing I want to find out everything that person has done because it find your swing is like well what do I do. Like what am I naturally gifted at how can I make money off of something that I really enjoy that I’m passionate about that’s what finding your swing is. And it’s I want to find out like what you did when you were a kid. Were you an athlete did you or you or you a professional knitter you like to knit hats. You know like what is it what do you do. And when people can start accessing those things that they’ve done their whole lives they’re really gifted and I like to find ways that we can use those talents in whatever their next business endeavor is. We call about connecting our past to build our future and here. And one of the names as come out is if you really want to know your passion really want to know what you’re naturally good at. Don’t think about what you were doing in adult life because very much you would have been taking a responsibility for a wage or whatever. Look at what you was doing as a kid when you weren’t being paid for it. And if you was a drama when you was a kid and you loved doing it then try and look at something that would do that. And he says that exactly the same way as you do it and you’ll find your swing episodes. That’s right. And I and I love those. Again that’s another instance where we totally put ourselves on the spot. I have a co-host. Her name is Dawn Mars. For those episodes and we never read the questions first. Like I only you know sometimes I glance at them to see just a copy and paste them into my Evernote when we’re doing the show. But we were reading them and answering them live and which again has another element of pressure that we’ve got to come up with an answer and these people are literally like I’ve had people that have taken what we’ve said on the show. They’ve made a business from it like the next day they’ve gone and done it. So it’s it can be a little daunting. And I was going to ask you earlier you know your show’s growing now and this this will be big your show will have a huge audience at some point and I’ve asked this with other people that are in the space. Have you yet felt this sense of responsibility that comes with that the fact that you’re speaking into a microphone and someone’s actually listening to what you’re saying. Yeah. With power comes great responsibility. And it’s funny the very first show I released I got two e-mails and they were from people I’d never met and they were saying thank you so much for putting the show out there and I thought oh my God. And from that moment of being very aware of what I’m saying or being very aware of I don’t know where my words are landing. And of also having a conversation with my wife this afternoon saying if this really takes on. Just as I want it to really take on I’m a little bit scared but I haven’t got the value to provide the audience but I won’t and I don’t know why that is because you know success is everything you want. But I suddenly felt a pressure because I can see the downloads increasing increasing increasing. I can see the work coming towards me and I’m doing this seven days old on my own. There’s not one person that helps me and I’m also balancing other responsibilities as well. So this isn’t my only so restrained I suddenly freaked this afternoon for the exact reason that you said oh my god this is power this is responsibility. I’ve got to be careful with it. Yeah. Have you also found it. I agree. I felt that in some I haven’t had yet. Hey buddy come back to me I’m like you ruin my life but I’ll show it. That’s going to have to happen right. Someone will listen to something you’ve said or I’ve said and they’re going to do it and it’s not going to work for them and we won’t have the details but they’re going to say I listened to you when you were in my life. That’s going to happen. There’s no way it that doesn’t happen. When you’re when you grow this thing to where it can go there’s no way that doesn’t happen. Well think shows a slightly different note because you teach nuts and bolts. I think with my show I talk about hope and I told you why leap of both. Yeah I really think I teach nuts and bolts because that’s that’s I feel like there’s a lot of shows that do that specifically. And I I feel like I teach more of the journey and then the nuts and bolts sort of fall from there. Well I think that’s the same thing. I think what you do you you talk about the journey you get the cogs working in your own brain and brain when you throw out the nuts and bolts which you probably don’t think have got value as such. You’re already using those cokes and you’re thinking yeah I can use that yeah I can tell you that that’s exactly what happened with me. You know I couldn’t see how to do this because I’ve never done this. But just by you having conversations with people you take the element and you take the element and you take that element and what do you do. He’s been up to you as an individual to put it together. Yeah I actually find myself pretty. I can be very socially awkward at the beginning and I sometimes I’ve actually accessed my I’ve switched into interview mode when I’m meeting someone in real life. I just watch on Mike I like my mentally switch on a podcast microphone in front of me and I found it so much easier to have conversations with people that way. So that’s kind of interesting to me is bizarre. I’m getting ready to play Steve Jobs now because I’m fascinated to see your spin on this. And this is the fulcrum of the whole show so this is a job. Don’t be free to do that of course it was impossible to connect the dots looking forward. When I was in college but it was very very clear looking backwards. Ten years later again you can’t connect the dots looking forward. You can only connect them looking backwards. So you have to trust that the dots will somehow connect in your future. You have to trust in something your gut destiny life karma whatever because believing that the dots will connect down the road will give you the confidence to follow your heart even when it leads you off the well-worn path. And that will make all the difference. When I’m going to ask a different question because I think you’ve answered it already but you will say yes you believe in it. But why do you think so many people don’t believe in that. I think that’s a lot. Most people get hung up on the how of something for example I think that we we pick a point be right we pick a point B that’s there’s the dot so I’ve got this I want to I want to do I want to have this show. And to get this show together I need this this this this this this this and we get stuck in the details of the this this this this this instead of. All right I’m going to sort of flow through this. All I want to do is get to that thing. I’m not sure how I’m going to get there yet but I’m going to I don’t really know. And by the time you get there and you look back and go wow that is not the path that all that I was going to take. My favorite metaphor. Or maybe it’s an analogy I forget but for this is if you and I were sitting at a cafe and I there was you know a three story building across the street and I said David there’s a hundred thousand pounds sitting in a bag on the roof of that building across the street. You have 15 minutes to get it. How fast would you be out the door to go get that money. I’d be on the right run the window right but you wouldn’t know how you were going to get it. You had no idea how to get to the roof of that building. You just knew you were getting to the roof. You don’t know if you’re going to you know helicopter down you know if you’re going to call the fire department to take you up there or you know scale like Spiderman but you’re getting to the roof of that building somehow. And I think what successful entrepreneurs do is they just keep their eye on that that you know that bag the bag that’s on the roof. They’re not quite as concerned about the how part. And we very much get concerned about the how part. And the second piece of that is when someone gives you an opportunity I just said this a little earlier when someone gives you an opportunity. Our instinctive reaction is to say no because of this this and this versus just instinctive to say yes and I’m going to figure out how to work out this this and this and that is a huge mental shift even though it’s very subtle. It’s just yes and no. But if you’ll find that people in your world that are really successful or really look like they’re just having a great time. They’re the ones that say yes first and then figure out how it’s going to work after and most of the people that are stuck and they don’t get from that one dot to the next dot. Those are the ones that say no because you know I I can’t live in San Diego because I have kids in school or because I can’t afford the move or because whatever we can come up with 15 different ways. But in reality all that stuff can be worked out. So I think that’s how I would respond to that and I hope that helps someone. So what scares you this is probably my final question before I send you on the mike and you can have a one on one with your younger self. As you all know and you’ve got these rocking and rolling show everything’s going well you’ve just bought these the watch you’ve finished off the last five years and everything’s good and you’ve got a lovely new girlfriend. What scares you. Well when you look at what you need to achieve. What scares me. I have to say I look at the bank being intimidated or being excited. I sort of treat the same way. So I don’t get super excited about everything and I don’t get scared about everything. I gosh I mean I don’t I I can honestly say I don’t have that for the same reason when someone said you know when I was so literally I was scraping up change so I could take in an airport shuttle for a ticket that was paid for by somebody else to go speak in front of 3000 people and that in which I was going to make $5000 or whatever that weekend. A few years ago I I literally had to scrape $8 up so I could take the shuttle like in change so I could take the shuttle to get to the airport that I had. I had $18 in my bank account at the time. And so it wasn’t enough to get the cash out of the machine. So I wasn’t worried about it. I’ve never been worried about stuff like that and I didn’t even know what success was going to look like for me. But I had a feeling that I was destined for it. And that’s the only way I can say is that it was it was very innate and I didn’t know where it was going to come from but I was very patient about it. Now I was also very patient about about you know I knew I was going to meet a great woman at some point and I was able to reach you know like you said read about a year ago but but recently. So I think that I have that that vibe that that it’s the same reason I don’t plan a lot. I just don’t. I’m living very much in the moment as I go day by day. And for better or for worse I don’t plan as much as I probably could or should. But right now I’m not really you know scared about anything. I mean I could say you know the show doesn’t grow at all. But even if it doesn’t I’m live in a great life right now. So I guess I’m not even that scared of that. OK last question before we send you back this time. Is it easier to move forward when you’ve hit rock bottom and you really did hit rock bottom. Yes it is. It’s easier for me to keep perspective on it. I just last weekend went to I went to Napa Valley with my girlfriend’s family and it was a very first class trip like from private private jet from San Diego to Napa Valley which I’ve never done before my life and everything was super exclusive super like Michelin star first class and I was like man I don’t want to be here like this. No I don’t mean like I didn’t want to be at the weekend. I just I don’t want to live in that universe of that sort of high end world. And that’s it. I I remember looking longingly at a train that goes through Napa Valley and it stops at all these different wineries and I’m kind of like Man I wish I would’ve just taken the train and gotten kind of drunk at the third winery and kept going and that would’ve been a really fun day. Instead it was like this you know 12 people serving our table kind of thing and it just wasn’t me. But my my Philly boy sort of like Kragen pragmatist personality carried me through that whole weekend thinking yeah I would be fine with stopping at a fast food place now and going to another winery. We don’t have to go to a hundred dollar plate dinner you know. And so I think if anything it’s given me perspective and there’s one more piece of perspective that in my very very lowest time and it was very low. And I thank you for not like making me go through that again like 40000 other shows have but I had a I remember the current hurricane Katrina had hit the southern United States and it just decimated New Orleans. And this was literally at my lowest time. And I remember looking on the news and seeing like a little 9 year old little black kid who everybody in his family died. Right. And he lost everything like lost every piece of memory he ever had including all of his family members. And he’s this kid who doesn’t have much of an education. He’s a minority. He doesn’t have a lot of opportunity that are coming coming to him and I remember thinking all right no matter what happens I’m a white male with a skill set in United States and that’s not and that’s not to be racially insensitive I’m looking. That was a practical. OK. So no matter what my situation is I can’t complain like I’m starting with these four advantages that a lot of people all over the world don’t have. I will be given opportunities that a lot of people don’t have and that really kept me grounded like that there was this you know that some people had to struggle to get to what I had innately by birth that I had nothing to do with. So that really kept me grounded and it still keeps me grounded to this day is that I always realize that there’s people out there that do not have the same opportunities that I knew the answer. Mike are we going to put you on the Sermon on the mike now. This is when we send you back in time lost a young Marty McFly to have a one on one with yourself and if you could go back in time. What age would you choose and what advice would you say. So I’m going to play the music and when he gets out you’re up. This is the Sermon on the mike. Here. We go with the speed of this. This man. Who. I think that first of all very handsome very very talented man couldn’t congratulate now. If you could work on harnessing that Philly attitude a little bit just over the next few years if you could take the edge off of that. Not everybody is out to get you and focus on building some relationships that you will sustain forever without having that kind of you know screw you Gene. Not Eugene. I don’t know anybody named Eugene. I’m not trying to signal that that will serve you in the future. Yeah. So to some or to to to bring that and I know that was very short but to bring that in I feel like over the last few years I’ve been able to take this. There was a bit of filea attitude like where if someone slighted me in any way that was it they were erased like done. And there was no real going back. It was partially like it was a Scorpio in me that that that’s sort of like had that stinger. And I you know it’s it’s the it’s the patience I have now which is maybe a little bit of it’s I wouldn’t say less judgment because I think judgment makes for good comedy. But but it’s just maybe being a little more empathetic to people’s situations and realizing that that people aren’t always in control of their actions and sometimes they’re going through a learning process as well. And to just instantly give them the guillotine and out of one’s life is not the most productive way to go through things. I don’t do that anymore but I did it for a number of years and I think it was just a reaction to losing my parents and it being so so much. OK Wolf I’m going to lose this anyway I might as well just cut it right off. And I think that didn’t that didn’t serve me for a long time. So I’d fix that. Michael how can our listeners connect with you sir. Well you know this. Oh I know you say you say in an American Xon is better I would say the same thing if you were speaking in a British accent. By the way you going to come on my show some time. I would love to come on your show it oh no great. And Howard Jones I want him to go. Has he been on your show yet. No he isn’t knocking me back. He said he would and not me but I’ve called a few of them that sign up for it. And then you just come down and that’s a drag. Anyway the show is called the Solar Perner hour. The Web site because no one can spell pre-New or is solo our dotcom. And if you’d like some coaching give a coaching program yet. I’ve only been focused on building you audience. That’s good. Well so if anybody needs coaching including you my friend I can’t believe you’re not in solo lab. I want solo lab dotcom and we’d love to have you in our really cool community. Mancow thank you so much for spending time with us tonight joining up those dots on the 100th episode and it’s quite the world’s longest episode of ever done as well. Please come listen. Is. Yeah we were about seven minutes past what we normally do. So come back again when you have more dots to join up because I do believe that by joining up the dots and connecting up pasts is the best way to build a future. Mr. Michael O’Neill thank you so much. And thank you.

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    · 01:15:57 · Entrepreneur Success Stories With Join Up Dots - Inspiration, Confidence, & Small Business Coaching To Start Your Online Career

    Todays guests is Mr Michael O'Neal, the podcasting master behind the hit Itunes show "The Solopreneur Hour Podcast". The top ranked business show, or The Solohour as it is known to its friends, teaching online marketing and entrepreneurship skills.  Michael is a man who quite simply without him, then I wouldn't be on the mic today. So you know where to send all your complaints too. He is a born entrepreneur with a fascinating story, of successes, setbacks, leaps of faith, and finding his unique path with the guidance of John Lee Dumas and Pat Flynn. Growing up in Philadelphia, the thought of being the host of his own podcast show was the last thing on his mind. He was a normal type of kid, obsessed with sport, finding trouble at school, and generally being a kid. But unfortunately that freedom of thought and energy changed when he was moved from his beloved Philly, and taken down to Florida, and it seems to me this was the start of him looking for his path in life. He didn’t fit in down in the Sunshine State, so as soon as he could, he got himself back up North, and discovered one of the first dots in his life that links him to where he is today…the internet. He was fascinated by the worldwide web, so developed skills to be a web designer. And that was his life for fifteen years, until unfortunately his parents both passed away in a very short time, and he found himself sitting with just $14 dollars in his pocket. He was over 30, with a decision forced upon him. Would he accept the punches that life had dealt him, or would he start fighting back? And that descision was made and he took the steps that made him “Know too much” and not want to work for anyone else again? He was going to become a solopreneur and own his own future. But how did he know he had the skills to be a success in the online arena? How did he know where his true passions lie? And does he regret inspiring guys like me to jump into the pool too? Well lets find out as we bring onto the 100th show to start joining up dots, the man on the mike, the host of the “Solopreneur Hour podcast”, the one and only Mr Michael O’Neal!   For more on the Solohour Podcast go to: The Solopreneur Hour Podcast with Michael O'Neal - Job Security...for the Unemployable By Michael O'Neal Chats with Proudly Unemployable Solopreneurs Like Himself Description They say successful people put their pants on the same way we all do. This show is about watching them put their pants on. Nominated As "Best New Show of 2013" by Stitcher Radio, Our range of guests takes us from comedy, to acting, to the NFL, to UFC and MMA, to Top Music Stars, to Millionaires, to Business Experts, to Real Estate moguls, and everything in between. Guests like Nicole Arbour, Adam Carolla, Hines Ward, Sam Jones, Tucker Max, Jonathan Fields, Derek Halpern, Pat Flynn, Amy Porterfield, John Lee Dumas, Chris Ducker, Chris Brogan, Guy Kawasaki, Mike Johnston, Rich Franklin, and many more, these casual conversations contain tons of action-inducing content wrapped up in an entertaining candy shell. Transcript Yes hello. How are we all? Can you believe it. Episode 100. We have been building up to this for well, it seems like a hundred episodes and we are finally here. We have got a man who who quite simply rose to the top and was going to be the only person who would fit the mantle of being my 100th guest. And I’ve had people banging down the doors. I had Paul McCartney phone up the other day and say I want to be on the show, I’ve heard it’s a big thing and I said to him, “Paul, unless you can get the other four Beatles to join you, it’s not going to happen” We’ve had  David Bowie crying. It’s been pathetic really. So today’s man has been nailed on to do this today, and I’m absolutely delighted that he’s on the show because quite simply without him I wouldn’t be on the microphone. So you know where to send all your complaints to! He’s a man with a fascinating story of successes, setbacks leaps and finding his unique voice. Growing up in Philadelphia he was a normal type of kid obsessed with football at school, and generally being a kid. But unfortunately that freedom of thought and energy changed when he was moved from his beloved Philly and taken down to Florida and it seemed to me this to stop him looking for his path in life. He didn’t fit in down in the sunshine state so soon as he could he got himself back up north and discovered one of the first dots in his life that links him to where he is today the Internet. He was fascinated by a World Wide Web so develop skills to be a web designer and as he’s known for 15 years until unfortunately his parents both passed away in a very short time and he found himself sitting with just fourteen dollars in his pocket. It was over thirty with a decision forced upon him. Would you accept the punches that life had dealt him or would he stop fighting back and that decision was made and he took steps that made him know too much and not want to work for anyone else again. He was going to become a solopreneur and own his own future. But how did he know he had the skills to be a success in the online arena and how did he know where his true passions lie? And does he regret inspiring guys want me to jump into the pool too. Well let’s find out as we bring onto the show to start joining up thoughts the man on the microphone. The host of the Solohour podcast, the only Mr. Michael O’Neal. Well how are you Michael?   Michael O’Neal Oh here is what I can’t even what is happening. I am so flabbergasted by that intro. OK. Two things. Number one that was the best intro I’ve ever had. And formerly Chris Cerrone had that that title of the best in show to a show I’ve ever had. But it was one of the best I’ve ever heard for anybody which is why you are so the right person for this job. Well we’re all thankful you have a microphone in front of you David. Trust me on that. Second thing is I would pay to hear Zombie John Lennon if you could figure out a way to get all four Beatles on the show. That would be cool. David Ralph Well I can do Steve Jobs every day. So I might be able to do them as well. Michael O’Neal Ah so dude that was incredible. I am . I am flummoxed. David Ralph I’m so excited to be on David Ralph’s show. David Ralph – Yeah. Go go and do that because I know you have been doing an action of me on a few shows and we’ll show you a few times night. Yeah you got a little bumper for me on my show. I have these little things that when people ask you me I have a guest on the show that I have them do a little like Hi this is David Ralph and then I get interested in this opener with Mike O’Neill and your voice is so. What’s the first thing I ever said to you. I said you have the ultimate voice for radio. Didn’t I say that you did. Absolutely. David Ralph I haven’t got the face for television but I’ve got a voice for Radio Michael O’Neal Well as long as you’ve got the radio part worked out and you have taken this thing and you’ve run with it my friend. So I’m honored. I’m honored to be at the 100 episode Mark. Thank you. Thank you. David Ralph Absolutely. It is an honor to have you here because it is amazing when you start this thing,because you started your show what was it August 2013. Michael O’Neal Eleven month ago. David Ralph Yeah,11 months ago and now you are rocking and rolling with the best of them you surround yourself with, with the Internet movers and shakers the ziggers and zagers and you know you’re going to be humbled by this. So maybe you won’t. You are an online celebrity of note. When I was saying to people is my show a lot of people sort of touch on the shows of said to me I know who you’re going to have. And I said no you don’t. And I go Yes I know who you’re going to have and ego going and going to no one. And I when Martin O’Neill and I went oh term term how did I know. Really I know. Yes yeah I did it because I had pain you know I don’t want to suck up to you Michael but the early days I didn’t know what the hell I was doing. So I just kept on saying your name over and over again or some kind of benchmark of what I was trying to achieve because you like that you’d come out the gates really and say look like a rocket ship. It’s unbelievable. But you’ve only been around so long because it seems like you’ve been here ever in a day. Does it seems like that to you? Michael O’Neal It is weird. It does feel like it was yesterday that I launched the show. It feels really really recent to me that it happened. So but then at the same time I look at the memories that I’ve had over the last 11 months and all the cool benchmarks and you know different things that have happened and, but it’s packed full of stuff right. So I think if there’s any celebrity it’s sort of a z list celebrity and only at certain conferences. But yeah it’s been it’s been an incredible journey. I couldn’t be happier with how it’s gone. And I can’t wait to see what happens in the next 365. You know I’m really excited about that. David Ralph Is there a plan to the next 365 because you seem to me somebody who is very much stimulated by the now and then. Are you somebody who knows what you’re aiming to achieve? Michael O’Neal No I’m a notorious non planner. Much to the chagrin of my girlfriend who is a total planner and if I didn’t have the you know a calendar app on my phone I would be I would be completely floating out there now because I I wake up and I look at I go OK what do I have to do today. And then I see what’s going on for the day. And sometimes that doesn’t work out for me like in a social situation because people actually make plans to go out and do things. But and I’m not one of them. And all of a sudden it’s Friday I’m like I probably should have planned to do something. Yes I watch movies tonight. But yeah I I’m in an interesting spot right now because I have had this kind of five year run of as you mentioned in the intro bringing myself in this very circuitous path from $14 and not having a clear direction to now. When someone says What do you do. I say I’m a podcast host. And that’s a thing like I. That’s what I do. So I sort of a couple of weeks ago had an occasion to kind of put the cap on that five year journey and now I’m going to be looking ahead but I haven’t quite formulated what that ahead looks like yet. David Ralph And how did you do that? How did you put a cap on that. How did you say that is five years, finished boxed up? Michael O’Neal Well it was as i say I’m I’m a notorious non-celibrator. I’m a guy that usually gets to an achievement and then continues to go without acknowledging it. And I have what is probably a weird story that you’re asking for but hey here comes. So I’ve been a Porsche fan for my whole life. And you may already know where you’re heading with this but I was a Porsche fan my whole life and I don’t know why particularly. I was I had a Volkswagen in high school and I think that maybe planted to see a little bit and I was a car guy and so you know those Porsche ads from the 80s with like the big fender flares and the big wing. I think I was attracted to that and I eventually in 2003 I bought my first vintage Porsche so I bought a 1972 11 and it was a piece of crap. I bought it in New York. I didn’t know better. I drove across country midway across the USA and midway across the country the engine blew up. So that’s how badly. Where were you when this happened. I was in the dead heart middle of Nebraska when it happened in Nebraska I suppose. You it’s nothing. It is hundreds and millions of acres of wide open like cornfields and nothing else. I mean we are I was I have a picture of my car sitting looking like it’s a panther wading in the grass. Waiting to you know to prowl and it’s just sitting there with with like a hundred miles in each direction of grass. There was no middle of nowhere when it happened and I ended up finding a Volkswagen place 60 miles away that towed me in. And the guy dropped the oil pan in the car and just giant chunks of metal came out and I’m like I’m pretty sure that’s not how it’s supposed to be. So I ended up getting a tow truck driving it from Denver where I was living at the time and picking it up. Neither here nor there. So I eventually traded that piece of crap on and got a nicer one. Not when I bought it but in 2005 and I restored this car it took me four years and 2000 hours to restore this car back to better than factory condition when I still have it now. And as part of the dynamic this one in 1969 9/11 and the 69 through 73 nine elevens are very very sought after. They are the iconic 9/11. So when you would see Steve McQueen and a picture of him in the 60s you know you know in LA MA or something driving a 9/11 he was driving one of these sort of 69 to 73 virgins. And one of the sponsors of Porsche in the 60s was a company called Hoyer which was tag Hoyer before Tagg was involved in the mid-80s. So just Hoyer and it’s a guy named Jack Hoyer and he made these beautiful tiny pieces chronographs based on race timers. So you’d have a co-driver with you as a race car and there was a race in Mexico called the career of PanAmericana and the first Porsche Carrera was named after this particular race. So Hoyer as a sponsor of Porsche created a watch based on the chronographs that they used for the race cars and they called it the Hoyer Kura. So this was a very utilitarian type watch you could use it as a race time or you could just click one of the buttons and it had this chronograph on it. It was beautiful automatic beautiful timepiece. And as I’ve been going through this journey for five years this has been on my vision board because these are about three grand and above to get one of these watches. But that was so superfluous for me because I had no i like zero money. And for me to spend three grand on something as excessive as a watch wasn’t even on my radar. So about a month and a half ago now I was in this position where I was like this could be the time. And I scoured the world. I ended up buying a 1972 Hoyer Carrera from a guy in France and it came to my house and it was more beautiful in person than I. I’d never seen one in person is more beautiful than I even thought it could be. And I remember at the mid midday I’d gone to this little swimming pool by my house I belong to this little pool club which is where I work out and I was swimming in the middle of the day two o’clock in the afternoon like Tony Soprano in the middle of a work day and thinking I just did this like this just happened. This 5 year journey comes stops right now like this is where my new journey begins. I’ve gone through this trial by fire. I’ve come out hopefully like a phoenix. I’m in a position where I can buy this watch now which is insane to think about and I’m peaceful and grateful for the life that I’ve built. And so that for me was the cap of a five year struggle. I mean a real struggle to get to where I am today. David Ralph Mr. O’Neill is a perfect story. It started and it made me think if I’m ever in a pub quiz and a question about Portia comes up you’re my man that does it to Luli you are obsessed by that and you. The amount that you were quoting then. Michael O’Neal Ah. I mean I think. I think it’s kind of a lifetime obsession for people that become afflicted by it. In fact there’s a great ad I will send it to you on YouTube and there’s an ad for the new Porsche about the time the new Porsche Carrera ad and it was there it’s a little boy. And he’s a little kid in his classroom and he’s daydreaming and on 9/11 drives by him and you just see him like looking out the window and his pencil drops and you know then he he gets in trouble. And then he runs to the you know was on his BMX bike to the Porsche dealer after school and and he you know he ends up sitting in this car and the steering wheel is bigger than he is and you see Mike raised his head he’s 12 or something and that he goes to the dealer or the guy goes you have a card and the guy goes yeah here you go and he goes I’ll see in 20 years. And then there’s this great voice over that says something like there’s a there’s a there’s a particular moment that happens with you know a Porsche fan. There’s that time you want one. Then there’s the time you get one and for the truly affected afflicted there’s the 20 years in between. And it just like it gives you the chills and my buddies sent it. I sense my body goes man. Pass the Kleenex. So I guess there is a real passion there for this. It’s a very visceral feeling that is so different because of the way they build their cars and because the engines in the rear and it’s a totally different experience than you have with with any other vehicle that yeah there becomes a real passion a real obsession with him. Did you read that because this shows about joining up dots, but do you remember as a young kid having the same kind of obsessive compulsive in both words and things when when you was a little kid running around the streets of Philly pretending you Rocky did most will keep you alive without paying him for the Michael O’Neal No no no. I was a BMX kid. Now I was I was in a suburb. I was the only gentile I was in a super Jewish town north of Philadelphia. And I was a BMX or I rode my BMX bike. I mean I was from 1984 until I mean I was racing bikes from 84 until 2000. David Ralph So Rocky wasn’t on your radar at all? Michael O’Neal No not at all. Tony Hawk and Dave you know Dave Voelker and Matt Hoffman and you know BMX guys Bob horo. They were all on my radar. I’ll tell you here’s here’s a little here’s a join up dot that is current. I rode an entire daywith real wow I just blanked on his name. That’s embarrassing really. I’m killing myself right now this is bad radio. David Ralph What  does he look like? Michael O’Neal He’s a big famous director now and he will watch films John Malkovich. Being John Malkovich won a friggin Oscar. We’re ready. Come on. With it and it might seem seamless Spike Jones for crying out loud. David Ralph Spike Jones Michael O’Neal Yeah Spike Jones the director was a dude I rode with at a place called Rockville BMX and we were just BMX or dudes riding around. And then he he became a photographer for one of the BMX magazines and then started doing filming because he did Beastie Boys first video I forget which one and then started doing independent films then did Being John Malkovich and now he is like an international you know massive director like one of the best most well-reputed directors in the world. And it was kind of cool. I mean so he did adaptation he did Being John Malkovich Where the Wild Things Are You know just just done amazing stuff. So the Academy Awards. And so a pretty pretty bad ass. He did her you know the movie Her most recent Yeah that’s Spike Jones. David Ralph So is there any similarity between the young kid in Philly and now, because from what I see across the pond and I listen into the conversations that you have with your internet guys and it does seem from this side of the pond that you’ve got a gang of friends and followers and whatever that basically control the Internet. I had Rick Mulready on the show. And I said “Do you ever feel like slipping something into Pat Flynns drink, so that the next morning you turn on your screen and see if there’s a black hole on the Internet because he’s not functioning at this time because it kind of seems not” But he wouldn’t be pushed in to slipping a Mickey into his drink in any shape or form. But you seem a little bit edgy to most of them. Michael O’Neal Yeah. David Ralph Is that because you’re from Philly. Is it because he’s a very sort of industrial Con. Its a real city you know. Its like a working class city when you’re there. Michael O’Neal Yeah I think the the edginess is something that I’m kind of a known for. I don’t know if you curse on your show but I’m kind of a no B.S. kind of guy and I’ve never been one to straddle the fence very very much. And I think what happened with Irwin what happens with a lot of these sort of Internet type celebrities is that they’re so concerned about getting the broadest audience that they sometimes come off as being a little bit milktoast or a little bit vanilla. And I come from a totally different perspective where when you think about media you think about New York Philadelphia Boston. These are like the media centers of the world. It’s where you know you go to Boston College that’s one of the broadcasting school that’s where Howard Stern went. That’s where many very famous broadcasters come from those places I went to Temple University which has an incredible media department. And when you look at the people that are iconic in history they’re not people that are vanilla. There are people that have strong opinions one way or the other and people either love them or they hate them but they’re definitely them. So they definitely have a presence. They definitely have a voice that’s unique to them. And I think I always think it took me a little while to settle into that on my show but it is ultimately as you as I developed the show and I developed my own voice I realized hey I’m not in the interest of pleasing everybody. Like that’s not my job. My job is to talk from my perspective on certain issues and try to extract really good business advice from people without them or my audience really seeing what I’m doing. And one of my favorite quotes to that is and you probably heard me say before but which just never let him see your work. You know that’s from Bill Cosby also from my alma mater Temple University in Philly and that basically means that go through your process ask your questions you know have questions written down but you don’t have to be so blatant about it. You can you can ease through you know great standup comedians do this like Louis C.K. talks you know he’ll be sputtering and angry and going through all this process on stage and you think that that’s just how he is. You laugh at his angry energy but he knows all the beats within that he knows exactly what he’s doing within that realm and that is that is him not letting you see him work on him. David Ralph When your on the mike then how much is you now being absolutely authentic and how much is it creating a mood creating an atmosphere on the show. Michael O’Neal Well it can’t. Can’t you have both? David Ralph Oh I don’t know CAN you? Michael O’Neal What are you asking? Are you asking how much is sort of pre-written and how much is off the cuff? David Ralph Well on this show for example some of the things I say I only say to get a reaction from the guest. You know do I really mean it kind of. Do I think that they will go against it. Yes. So I will say it. How much do you actually say that you believe 100 percent. Michael O’Neal Well first of all you do that because you understand this and you’re a pro. I mean this is a very natural place for you to end up. So I think that that I do very similar things to you, as you do just because yeah sometimes you want to extract some stuff from a guest that is being difficult. But yeah I mean I’m pretty authentic dude. I there’s not a lot there’s people that have met me in real life and go Oh you’re exactly like you are on the show. Yeah Im exactly like I’m in the show. I turn it on and I talk so I don’t have this, I’m not affected in any way. I just go. David Ralph So you’re not like you haven’t got a human graphic equalizer when you press record you just kind of increase certain parts of your personality. Michael O’Neal Not really. No. This is pretty much how I am. Yeah I’ll speak like I speak. I’m probably slightly dirtier in real life. David Ralph Well you don’t know where the words will land do you! Michael O’Neal I probably curse a little more which is fine. I’ve done a few podcasts now where I was allowed to do that and it did make it really nice. David Ralph Are you in the same situation as me because I used to listen to your show all the time and it was a staple diet during my transition at that time and now I’m doing this. One of the failures of me is that I don’t get time to listen to other people’s shows. I listen to your one  the other day because I just suddenly realized I had a gap but you almost become an island of your own success where before I used to listen to shows and I used to think oh I’ll take a bit of it and I’ll take a bit of it and become like a magpie. And now I don’t know what vibe is out there and I don’t know whether I’m being edgy or whatever. It just seems to be you. Speaking to the mic and I throw it out to the world and hopefully it goes well. It seems to be a fault of mine, and so do you have the same thing? Michael O’Neal No I’m exactly the same way. I’d say partially by choice and partially by by time. So when I when I do have time to consume podcasts I don’t tend to go business. I tend to go comedy. And lately I tend to go NFL football. I listen to podcasts related to that because I want to be able to clock out a little bit when I do want real inspiration. I’ve been listening to here’s the thing with Alec Baldwin it’s WNYC. I’ve not heard a better intro or production or interview style than that show. It’s his in his intros are nothing short of brilliant. I mean they’re amazing how he brings a guest on an and then how he interviews and his questions are very in-depth and he’s such a pro that it makes it really easy for me to like look at that bar and go OK that’s where the soul open for hours going. That’s what I do. I actually honestly David I find now the more that I get into this show the more I almost can’t stand other people’s shows like there so few that can capture my attention and that I feel like are being done well even with really good friends of mine that do shows I just go and that is almost unlistenable. You know it’s so. So I just don’t I definitely look far above the kind of Internet Marketing slash business world for inspiration on how I want to run mine. David Ralph because the only two that I listen to now is yours. And I went on started. I wanted to listen to every single one. And but the nerdiest and there the only two reasons. Yeah great and Nerdist is good for a number of reasons. David Ralph Yeah I just like the way it kind of flows and you don’t even know it started and it just kind of teases right. Michael O’Neal That’s right. Yeah they just start it. We kind of did that today didn’t we. David Ralph Yeah absolutely and that was the good stuff. Michael O’Neal And we talked for a while before we started recording. You know me I mean it just felt like yeah hit it. Go for it. We’ll start like Nerdist. But yeah no I think that there’s a sense there’s such a glutton of new shows out there and I don’t. but if I’m being opinionated I don’t. There’s a lot of places where people are learning quote on quote how to podcast. And I think they’re feeding them crap information.So often a big problem. David Ralph And I know he’s a mate of yours and I wish him all the success in the world, but the problem is so many people are trying to duplicate John Lee Dumas and that’s not right. He came first and he created the structure of his show, and whether you like that format or whatever that is he’s and he’s made in his own by being him. And I hear these shows and after about three minutes I think oh my god it’s the same thing again. Now I will listen to your shows and I will go all the way through. But people miss a trick don’t lay up coming back to my all the time is finding your authentic self playing to your streams. And and if you do that you create a bigger loyalty. You know if you are totally yourself people either hate you or like you but the ones that like you will love you. And that’s where these people are missing out because they’re not even being authentic to themselves they’re just kind of a middle ground. Michael O’Neal Yeah. And John would tell you and I’ve said this a million times in front of him and said do you the success of your show or his show has nothing to do with his format. And it has nothing do with him as a podcast for that all. It has everything to do with the fact that he has a financial background writes great marketing copy and has a schedule and a rigidity too. He has a military rigidity because he was in the military to his to his business. And unless you come with that exact kind of background you will not have success in that way. People think that because of the way he does his show because it’s structured and because he has these set questions and does it seven days a week that that’s why he’s successful and is completely irrelevant to that. So the problem is is like you said so many people listen to that or they go to podcasters paradise and they learn a certain way to do things. And I’m almost diametrically opposed to every single thing that they’re learning. So it’s like it’s like man I it’s it’s frustrating for me in that way. And I shouldn’t say that like I want to rephrase that I’m not time actually oppose everything they’re learning what I’m what I’m worried about is that the things that I think make podcasting successful aren’t emphasized in a lot of training courses. And like you just said finding your own voice is a number one you have to be successful. You have to find your own voice and you have to have a great brand and it’s not something that people speak about a lot. Like I took a lot of cliff Ravenscroft stuff. I’ve taken all the stuff. I’ve seen a number of course is out there a lot of them don’t pay a lot of attention to that piece and I worry that with this next phase of podcasting and what’s you know since everyone’s starting a show they’re going to find it a lot harder to sustain it unless they’ve found their own voice on their voice. And and it’s within this brand that they’ve really created. So we’ll see. But that’s the jury’s out on that. David Ralph Did you really have to love doing this because I’m going to play a speech in my Jim Carrey and I’m actually I’m going to play now and we’re going to talk afterwards. This is Jim Carrey. Jim Carrey Sound Clip My father could have been a great comedian but he didn’t believe that that was possible for him. And so he made a conservative choice. Instead he got a safe job as an accountant. And when I was 12 years old. He was let go from that safe job. And our family had to do whatever we could to survive. I learned many great lessons from my father. Not the least of which was that you can fail at what you don’t want. So you might as well take a chance on doing what you love. David Ralph Is that the true message that we should be getting across? Michael O’Neal Yes it is unfortunately the connecting of the dots joining of those two dots which is I found this thing that I love and now I have to figure out how to get paid for it is difficult. That’s a difficult journey. And that’s my that was my five year journey. Right. First not even knowing what it was that I loved. I had no idea I was going to podcast five years ago but I had an initial foray into public speaking. I started teaching social media on stage and I ended up traveling and going to 17 cities teaching people how to use social media to grow their business and I found it very like oh this is something I could be good at. And then that morphed into doing back end production on a podcast for a year and a half and just starting to understand the podcasting industry that finally morphed into me starting my own show and here we are. But it was a five year journey to find that you know like I had indicators of it and if someone in 2009 it said hey do you want to get. You want to make six figures and be a public speaker. I be like totally that be great. But at the time I had nothing to speak about. And now I do. So it’s kind of a I I do feel like you have to find something that will and you’ve probably seen this in your life with your show something that will make you walk into that studio and record an episode even if you’re exhausted or not in the mood or whatever because you truly love it and you’re excited about it. Oh yesterday. That’s how I am. Yeah I’ve had times when I’ve recorded 12 shows back to back and now I’ve. Why just because I knew I was going to do it seven days a week show and that was the hardest time I had. I had no internet for two weeks he just crashed on me and I suddenly panic but I didn’t have enough to cover. And I was going away as well. So yes seven days a week he goes out and I needed the boke. And so I did it and I started off at six o’clock in the morning and I just went through through move through and I edited and I did everything in the gap between when I recorded the next one and he just went seamlessly. And when I pressed record yes I was on I was on. Once I was off it was just like I was you know on drugs or something I was just slump too much. But it wasn’t until the very last ones that I realized actually about that passion that you’re talking about the ability to actually do it when you’re tired. I’ve gone past by and I was actually feeling ill. And I remember doing this show and the sweat was pouring off me and I listened back to and it doesn’t sound like it but I realized brain actually no you’ve got to look up to yourself as much as you do actually doing something. Yeah I’m very committed to that. DAVID It’s I have I have three sort of pillars if you will that I do I think make a good soul a partner or a successful soul a partner. And there’s there’s time freedom there’s financial freedom and there’s location freedom. And so the first one is really easy time freedom simple you walk into your boss’s office tell him to go screw himself and then you have time freedom. There you go. Location freedom. You can pretty much just get in a car and go somewhere that we have that kind of freedom in the U.K. and in the United States. Yeah there’s some complications in between. But technically you can just go do that. It’s the financial freedom part. That’s the tricky part of the three. That is a little harder. But I find that I’m so unwilling to compromise my time freedom. I’ve turned down so many more so much more money because it would compromise my time freedom like I could have a lot more coaching clients and a lot more people in my my group coaching. It’s called Solo lab. But with that I would have to commit another couple of days to taking care of them and I’d I’m willing to do that at all. Like i will i love my life the way it is right now and I can be comfortable financially I can go do fun things. And I don’t have to compromise that. And you know hopefully I can continue to grow and continue to you know make more money maybe have more speaking gigs things like that but I don’t intend on working any harder. I just want to you know work smarter maybe try to over deliver a little more to my audience and that’s what I’m looking for. Well was sensible and that’s exactly what I want to do as well because I hate these people and it’s almost like a badge of honor. But I’ve quit in nine to five job. And then you go yes I’m an online marketing do I do this I’m a diva and I cook my time and I’m doing 80 hours a week and I think right. Right. What the hell do you do that. Why don’t you just do two days hard work and have the rest of the time of it. It seems stupid that I say that. That’s right. And it’s. It does. It is counter intuitive. The thing is when my parents passed away you mentioned this in the intro when they did that. My perspective on time completely shifted and I just I. Life’s too short. So I am very much a person that says both. When someone says would you like this or this. I say both. When I get an opportunity to do something I say yes. Win you know and I just do it like it’s a thing that I have committed to and not mentally like I don’t just go yeah this is what I’m going to do from now on. I just do it now I just say yeah let’s do that. That sounds fun. Let’s just go for that. I’m going to go on a hike. Yeah. Great book a ticket. You know and we just do it. And I found that that has served me really well because when I do that and I put that as a priority in my life then the the stuff that I’m not so thrilled about I still end up having to do it. It still fills in the blanks but my priority is to really extract the most that I can out of my life and I’ll tell you not a person that does that well I think as John John Lee Dumas he works probably a little more like the person you were just mentioning. He works a lot but he’s also great at saying yes when when something comes across his desk he goes yeah lets do that. And it’s like on the schedule. And I think that’s that’s part of I think what that’s part of success. To me that’s part of what success feels like is being able to do that. I remember hearing an interview with Billy Joel and the interviewer said to him Billy you’ve sold X squillion albums and singles and you’ve done these tours and you play Madison Square Garden five straight nights. What has success given you. And he just said time and that was it. He can wake up each morning and if he doesn’t want to do something he doesn’t. And that single word resonated with me hugely especially when I was in my 9 to 5 job and I realized then that things were not right. And why should I be doing a nine to five job when there are options I suppose. I began to know too much. And then once you know too much brain you realize you can’t ever go back. Michael O’Neal Yeah. It’s really really is a one way street. It also but that carries over as well into my personal life as well. And I think when the there’s ever such a different confidence now just in my life in general and I think Billy Joel would sort sort of anybody that reached a level of success has this this this underlying confidence about them that is very attractive not only to you know the opposite sex but it’s what attracts other successful people to you. There’s just there’s a subtlety in actions and just how really how you go through life when you’re confident that is very attractive to you know both both people both sexes and that is something that people pick up on pretty easily. You become a success back humor don’t you. You know the old Jim rhône thing about you know the average of you know five people to surrender a lot of people I talked to. Yeah. I mean a crappy job and all these miserable people all the time. How can I surround myself. And one of the things I say to them is you know focus on success because the more success you get and the more competence as you say they end up a successful people get sucked into your world and suddenly you created what he was saying. It’s not easy to do. But it certainly is a mindset that starts moving in that direction. That’s right. And you it’s funny you just asked that question of me is how do you now you’re on it you’re on an island so you’re you’re in the UK you’re not. I’m in San Diego so I get to have a bunch of people around me at all times. I will say though we don’t get together. I mean you know we get together as friends but I’m not in a mastermind with any of these people around me. We don’t sit there and me out. So you know to answer your question I’m mean answer answered on my show tomorrow. But you’ve got to join a group you’ve got to join a group mastermind of some sort. And there’s really no other way. If you if you’re not surrounded by those five people that that you feel are motivating you in a way that that is bettering your life and hopefully their lives. You’ve got to separate from those people and find the people that are doing that and pretty much everyone I know that’s in this you know business Internet Marketing podcasting world has some sort of coaching program. And my best advice is to get people that you really enjoy like how they speak and like how they deliver and join their group and that’s it. And you know once you’re a part of that community you’ll be a lot more apt to be motivated you know learn the things you want to learn. It’s part of the reason why I don’t need to listen to podcasts anymore because I have so many people in my group that are doing cool things. I get to learn about all the cool new stuff without having to go listen. They sort of comes to me. So so do you now feel that you’re ahead of the curve. Because when when you started the show I remember you saying it’s the Wild West and now it seems like every man Dogan whatever has made me a podcast. So do you think now about you it’s not the Wild West but you actually ahead of the curve. It’s good. Get a question. Yes and no I think it’s still the wild west. I think that people in this environment aren’t necessarily looking in the right direction to advance their business where they should be. Let me clarify that. I think inspiration for how someone’s podcast get better gets better doesn’t happen within the new podcasting community. It happens with old media. Then you go look at how you all learn how to interview you go study Howard Stern if you want to learn how to produce an an excellent show. You go you know you look at and some an NPR show or something like that like a where a BBC show something that you know pay close attention to how people are introducing guests and what they’re how they do their ads and how they integrate you know clips from this person’s body of work into their intro or into the show itself. So I think there is really a professional side to this that will ultimately come out. For me personally what I’ve realized over the last couple of months and this is something that I think you can you can sort of strap on as a badge of honor as well is that I’m a better interviewer than most. Just in general I’m more intuitive and I have more range of knowledge so I can connect those dots. You know I can join those dots. And that’s what makes for a compelling and entertaining interview no matter who you are it’s the people that have the pre-scripted questions that I think are really going to struggle because that’s that’s very exhausting to an audience. So on one side I think I’m still really ahead of the curve in that. I come from this and as do you come from this background this history of paying attention to interviewers and then sort of bringing this natural ability to the microphone that 99 percent of people don’t have. And that’s the building not only to interview someone in a business sense and extract what they do for a living but actually make an entertaining hour of programming for someone. And in my opinion they can get the business data from 80000 podcasts that are on iTunes but it’s really hard to get entertainment out of it. And that’s what I’m trying to bring to the table and I think that’s what you do a really great job bringing to the table as well because because what I’ve realized you know was a complete nobody is basically the very first interview I did was no you weren’t Yes. Stop it. Tom Mocha’s was episode your line on the line. Me right now David. And he was a huge inspiration to me so I wanted him as guest number one. And he was talking to a gentleman called John Lee Dumas and so awful who’s is CHEP never heard of him. And I went over to his show and the very first show I listened to was episode 3 2 2 which was yourself and kidding. That was I didn’t know that. Yeah that was the very first episode. And the fascinating thing about it was which got me on the show and this is my sort of join up thought was the fact that everything you see in life is normally about benchmarking against success. You see people already Veja and you go I’d like to do that but it worked for him he’s had this skill he’s got that you know he’s a natural that’s for sure. On that show on 0 5 3 2 2 you hadn’t even lunged and he was saying to you you know when are you going to go and you and I’m going to go on Wednesday or whatever it was. And I tuned in and I listened or whatever you do you click on it you don’t tune into you. But I heard you speak for the very first time and I found it fascinating because I was seeing but not some bouts of somebody finding their way. And you was saying Yeah and I had 17 downloads and it wasn’t that you were looking at success you were looking at somebody finding their flow finding them. Moving on. And that’s right. But that’s what really flavored my show was the fact that you were doing something that seemed natural and you were holding your hands up and you going really. I don’t know if this is going to work but hey if it doesn’t change we’ll move on later on. And remember you did this show and it was it was some chap I don’t remember who was with them on the on the beach somewhere and calls were whizzing past and your battery ran out half way through. Yes and yes you still put out and I thought that’s interesting because what he’s saying back is not that this show has got to be polished and perfect what he’s saying is is a journey and I’m going to improve from that and that be the last time that my battery runs out halfway through. That’s right and it was definitely the last time that happened. Yeah. Yeah it’s a good way to good insight. I see. If I were doing it again yeah I would probably do the same thing again. I was I’ve been always sort of a fan of the let’s just put it out at that at that time. I was leaning more on my hopeful interview skills than I was like ultimate show quality and since I’d already put out a couple of episodes it wasn’t that bad but I really loved the guys story. So I was like yeah there was Harry. Harry Smith was the guy’s name and. And. And I thought yeah let me let me throw that on. And why not. What happened. You know and somewhere. This is what’s so cool about this right. You heard one single episode I did from Johnny Dumas which was like a random occurrence. And look how much it’s affected both of us. Yeah. Just that one thing. So if one little episode you put out catches the right person it can literally be life changing. I will say something. I want your listeners to go to solo our solo our dotcom and I want you to go back to like three. I don’t know let’s say pre 70s so anything from episode like I don’t know one until episode 70 and I want you to click on those posts and read how great David’s comments are for the episodes. They are so insightful and brilliant. And you do such a great job summarizing. I think I even wrote you once and said Do you want to write my show summaries. Remember that you did and it was just that the crux of me doing this and I knew I was just going to stall so cool. So I am and you still you just did it the other day when you were that episode you listened to. You do such a great job summarizing. You’re going to be such a smash successful podcast. David Yeah I have no doubt whatsoever you are going to I hope you will let us be on your show someday when you do these live broadcasts in front of you know a hundred thousand people at the Wembley Stadium. Did you know when you start this and I’m really going to open up here so I don’t really have a Chevez. But when you start based you want it to be so good and you want it to be brought in and you kind of. There were job. You look back on them and you go OK yeah that wasn’t quite where I wanted to be but it was all right. And then you hit sort milestones and you listened back to some of these shows I don’t know if you listen to yours and I thought oh that was a bit closer to what I had in my head my original vision. And I got to show it E.T. and that’s when I suddenly realize Michael that was the host of a show and it was my responsibility to be the host to even I think he was too grateful for people giving up their time to be on my show. I it was a complete mind set. Now I want this to be the biggest show out there. I absolutely do. And it’s all I can focus in on and it’s in many ways it’s killing me or my life is totally out of whack. But all I want is about is the number one thing upset that on any show because it sounds a bit arrogant really I’m upset. Once we’ve stopped recording them when somebody asked me about it that is where I want to be and I want to be join up not as a brand. Exactly as you say. Right. Because it’s one of those things that you kind of go join up towards. What does it mean. And I’m very aware of if you provide quality and content as quality brand in many ways take care of itself. It’s like we always talk in the early episode the name that was always mentioned was Pat Flynn. And you know he’s got that classic smart passive income and you forget that’s a premium brand but actually he’s only three words put together and he’s because he’s provided that great content and quality and value. But it becomes the kind of the trust word where what he’s trying to achieve. That’s right in he that he can live that now. But I actually want I want to focus on something you said just before that you will be bigger than him and so will I. And I know I don’t mean that like he doesn’t have the same aspirations as you do. Right. And I’m saying in terms of podcasts in terms of like Pat wants to speak I’m not speaking for him here but just knowing what I know about him. He he is sort of the crash test dummy of internet marketers. So he does all these really cool things on the web. I want my show to become about like I want to. I want to be interviewing complete legitimate A-listers you know and finding out about their kind of business and so normal journey. That’s where I will see the show going. And because of that if when and if I get to that point. The show the podcast itself will be bigger than all of the internet marketing type podcasts. Does that make sense. Yeah it’ll be way bigger than that. It’ll be more like Nerdist. You know Chris Hardwick gets killer guests on his show and that’s why his podcast is you know number one number two number three on iTunes overall. And so it’s it’s one of those things that that I it’s what I aspire to do as well is to get working within this world like real A-list category of people because I think that they’ll appreciate talking about their journey. And so that’s where I want to head with that. Also I was very strategic and I changed direction. I realized that when I started I was just throwing out the net to anyone and anyone would jump on the show. I would have them round about sort of thing once again I thought to myself no I can’t do this because when I was looking at other people’s shows I was thinking Oh I’ve been on my show I’ve been on my show and it was just the sort of hybrid of people doing the rounds. So I went off in a different direction. So if you listen to episode 88 I had Cathy O’Dowd who was the first woman to hit the summit of Everest from both sides. I’ve got the first civilian astronaut coming on the show. I’ve got a chap over a few years ago was worldwide news because he sold his life on e-bay and he’s just sold his life to Disney and all that kind of stuff. So I realized I had to change direction to become more unique to be more interested by the stories more. Yes. Extract out of them what I wanted to show to the world and that was my original vision but I couldn’t say Eva until later on in the journey. Yeah and that’s really what you’ve done. That’s the whole point. That’s why you will be successful because you’ve you’ve done this in a sort of a different way in your life when you look back to sort of the Philadelphia kid and you riding around on your BMX and all that kind of stuff. Well you just sort of wanting to be the classic sports kid was. If you look back and now we all going to send you back in time soon on the Sermon on the mike. No I was a show off though. I think I think I was you know a performer of some sort and the PA is I keep is that makes my colonial who he is to play better racquetball with an audience. Yes. Every single time. Yeah I think so. I think there’s that’s there that’s in there. It’s in the DNA for sure. I don’t use that a lot but it’s in the DNA. I work better in a performance environment which is presumably why I kind of screw myself on the show intentionally. I don’t I I prepare in a way where I I’ve researched my guest as you have. You know you know and you certainly listen to the show but at times you know a little bit about me and you’re able to then naturally structure questions that that dovetail into my history and that’s what a good interviewer does. I don’t write a lot of questions out sometimes intentionally and that’s because I there’s something about the performance side. I realize now that I’m I’m doing this the shows this this month I’ve got over 300000 downloads for the first time and this is a and I realize so there’s people listening and I have to perform. You know what I like it. It makes me it UPS my game. I’m live on the show. And I think I do that to myself on purpose because because I work better in that environment a lot maybe underpressure a little. Well we’re very similar. It’s fascinating. I feel like I’m finding out the real Marcantonio here. Where is the person behind the that the presenter. Because I am somebody who has spent my life doing training courses and presentations and that’s my job. I’ve never done this kind of thing. It was totally BA and I’m somebody very much likes to be on their own likes no one near them. And then when I suddenly go ping. That’s it. It’s performance time. And I don’t know if it’s showing off or trying to create a different persona for myself because that’s kind of not naturally me. But I do have the ability to raise my game and present a different side to myself if you know me deep down you would say to me different people that the people who know me from seeing where I allow them to see me they would say yeah you it’s like I’m on the mike as you are when you normally doing those things because I’m letting them see what they want to see. Yeah. Yeah I mean I think there’s there’s an element of that and again I want people to understand this is why we and we talked earlier about sort of what John brought to the table. And I’m you know people look at my show and say it’s it’s been it’s it’s been pretty successful in the first 11 months just overall debt is not that’s not a fluke because I didn’t just start in August of 2013 with kind of media. You know I’ve been a professional drummer my whole life. I’ve performed I’ve been on I’ve been a racer I’ve been you know a competitive racquetball player for for many many tournaments for many many years now and before that it was tennis. So I’ve always been performing in some way or the other. I I coached for five years on teaching people social media in front of huge audiences. I’ve played Red Rocks in front of 10000 people like me being on a microphone and being natural at it is not something that happened overnight. It’s a it’s this is something that you walked in with. You’ve been training for years before you turned a mike on yourself. So it’s kind of like Yeah right yeah. You were new to podcasting but not nuda trying to translate a concept from one person to an audience like that’s something you’ve been doing for a long time. So so that’s I think that it’s a bit of a misnomer within our industry that yeah anybody can you know podcast or anybody can start blah blah blah. That’s kind of cool I get it. Yes technically you can turn on an app you can go to boss jock on your iPhone and upload it to clips and you’ve got a podcast but can you do it. Well can you do it so that when someone switches from morning radio or Howard Stern or the BBC to your podcast that they don’t notice a huge drop off in quality or you know sound quality interview quality production quality that’s that’s what I try to bring the table and I think you do the same thing. So is that what you’re saying really and I’m going to play the words of Steve Jobs because he says it very well as well but no experience is wasted. It doesn’t matter what you’ve done in your life you will pull elements and you extract what you need to create your new path. Out 100 percent. Absolutely yes. Everything you’ve done up until this point is does training for you for this next phase. When I have people on their show and we have these episodes called Find your swing I want to find out everything that person has done because it find your swing is like well what do I do. Like what am I naturally gifted at how can I make money off of something that I really enjoy that I’m passionate about that’s what finding your swing is. And it’s I want to find out like what you did when you were a kid. Were you an athlete did you or you or you a professional knitter you like to knit hats. You know like what is it what do you do. And when people can start accessing those things that they’ve done their whole lives they’re really gifted and I like to find ways that we can use those talents in whatever their next business endeavor is. We call about connecting our past to build our future and here. And one of the names as come out is if you really want to know your passion really want to know what you’re naturally good at. Don’t think about what you were doing in adult life because very much you would have been taking a responsibility for a wage or whatever. Look at what you was doing as a kid when you weren’t being paid for it. And if you was a drama when you was a kid and you loved doing it then try and look at something that would do that. And he says that exactly the same way as you do it and you’ll find your swing episodes. That’s right. And I and I love those. Again that’s another instance where we totally put ourselves on the spot. I have a co-host. Her name is Dawn Mars. For those episodes and we never read the questions first. Like I only you know sometimes I glance at them to see just a copy and paste them into my Evernote when we’re doing the show. But we were reading them and answering them live and which again has another element of pressure that we’ve got to come up with an answer and these people are literally like I’ve had people that have taken what we’ve said on the show. They’ve made a business from it like the next day they’ve gone and done it. So it’s it can be a little daunting. And I was going to ask you earlier you know your show’s growing now and this this will be big your show will have a huge audience at some point and I’ve asked this with other people that are in the space. Have you yet felt this sense of responsibility that comes with that the fact that you’re speaking into a microphone and someone’s actually listening to what you’re saying. Yeah. With power comes great responsibility. And it’s funny the very first show I released I got two e-mails and they were from people I’d never met and they were saying thank you so much for putting the show out there and I thought oh my God. And from that moment of being very aware of what I’m saying or being very aware of I don’t know where my words are landing. And of also having a conversation with my wife this afternoon saying if this really takes on. Just as I want it to really take on I’m a little bit scared but I haven’t got the value to provide the audience but I won’t and I don’t know why that is because you know success is everything you want. But I suddenly felt a pressure because I can see the downloads increasing increasing increasing. I can see the work coming towards me and I’m doing this seven days old on my own. There’s not one person that helps me and I’m also balancing other responsibilities as well. So this isn’t my only so restrained I suddenly freaked this afternoon for the exact reason that you said oh my god this is power this is responsibility. I’ve got to be careful with it. Yeah. Have you also found it. I agree. I felt that in some I haven’t had yet. Hey buddy come back to me I’m like you ruin my life but I’ll show it. That’s going to have to happen right. Someone will listen to something you’ve said or I’ve said and they’re going to do it and it’s not going to work for them and we won’t have the details but they’re going to say I listened to you when you were in my life. That’s going to happen. There’s no way it that doesn’t happen. When you’re when you grow this thing to where it can go there’s no way that doesn’t happen. Well think shows a slightly different note because you teach nuts and bolts. I think with my show I talk about hope and I told you why leap of both. Yeah I really think I teach nuts and bolts because that’s that’s I feel like there’s a lot of shows that do that specifically. And I I feel like I teach more of the journey and then the nuts and bolts sort of fall from there. Well I think that’s the same thing. I think what you do you you talk about the journey you get the cogs working in your own brain and brain when you throw out the nuts and bolts which you probably don’t think have got value as such. You’re already using those cokes and you’re thinking yeah I can use that yeah I can tell you that that’s exactly what happened with me. You know I couldn’t see how to do this because I’ve never done this. But just by you having conversations with people you take the element and you take the element and you take that element and what do you do. He’s been up to you as an individual to put it together. Yeah I actually find myself pretty. I can be very socially awkward at the beginning and I sometimes I’ve actually accessed my I’ve switched into interview mode when I’m meeting someone in real life. I just watch on Mike I like my mentally switch on a podcast microphone in front of me and I found it so much easier to have conversations with people that way. So that’s kind of interesting to me is bizarre. I’m getting ready to play Steve Jobs now because I’m fascinated to see your spin on this. And this is the fulcrum of the whole show so this is a job. Don’t be free to do that of course it was impossible to connect the dots looking forward. When I was in college but it was very very clear looking backwards. Ten years later again you can’t connect the dots looking forward. You can only connect them looking backwards. So you have to trust that the dots will somehow connect in your future. You have to trust in something your gut destiny life karma whatever because believing that the dots will connect down the road will give you the confidence to follow your heart even when it leads you off the well-worn path. And that will make all the difference. When I’m going to ask a different question because I think you’ve answered it already but you will say yes you believe in it. But why do you think so many people don’t believe in that. I think that’s a lot. Most people get hung up on the how of something for example I think that we we pick a point be right we pick a point B that’s there’s the dot so I’ve got this I want to I want to do I want to have this show. And to get this show together I need this this this this this this this and we get stuck in the details of the this this this this this instead of. All right I’m going to sort of flow through this. All I want to do is get to that thing. I’m not sure how I’m going to get there yet but I’m going to I don’t really know. And by the time you get there and you look back and go wow that is not the path that all that I was going to take. My favorite metaphor. Or maybe it’s an analogy I forget but for this is if you and I were sitting at a cafe and I there was you know a three story building across the street and I said David there’s a hundred thousand pounds sitting in a bag on the roof of that building across the street. You have 15 minutes to get it. How fast would you be out the door to go get that money. I’d be on the right run the window right but you wouldn’t know how you were going to get it. You had no idea how to get to the roof of that building. You just knew you were getting to the roof. You don’t know if you’re going to you know helicopter down you know if you’re going to call the fire department to take you up there or you know scale like Spiderman but you’re getting to the roof of that building somehow. And I think what successful entrepreneurs do is they just keep their eye on that that you know that bag the bag that’s on the roof. They’re not quite as concerned about the how part. And we very much get concerned about the how part. And the second piece of that is when someone gives you an opportunity I just said this a little earlier when someone gives you an opportunity. Our instinctive reaction is to say no because of this this and this versus just instinctive to say yes and I’m going to figure out how to work out this this and this and that is a huge mental shift even though it’s very subtle. It’s just yes and no. But if you’ll find that people in your world that are really successful or really look like they’re just having a great time. They’re the ones that say yes first and then figure out how it’s going to work after and most of the people that are stuck and they don’t get from that one dot to the next dot. Those are the ones that say no because you know I I can’t live in San Diego because I have kids in school or because I can’t afford the move or because whatever we can come up with 15 different ways. But in reality all that stuff can be worked out. So I think that’s how I would respond to that and I hope that helps someone. So what scares you this is probably my final question before I send you on the mike and you can have a one on one with your younger self. As you all know and you’ve got these rocking and rolling show everything’s going well you’ve just bought these the watch you’ve finished off the last five years and everything’s good and you’ve got a lovely new girlfriend. What scares you. Well when you look at what you need to achieve. What scares me. I have to say I look at the bank being intimidated or being excited. I sort of treat the same way. So I don’t get super excited about everything and I don’t get scared about everything. I gosh I mean I don’t I I can honestly say I don’t have that for the same reason when someone said you know when I was so literally I was scraping up change so I could take in an airport shuttle for a ticket that was paid for by somebody else to go speak in front of 3000 people and that in which I was going to make $5000 or whatever that weekend. A few years ago I I literally had to scrape $8 up so I could take the shuttle like in change so I could take the shuttle to get to the airport that I had. I had $18 in my bank account at the time. And so it wasn’t enough to get the cash out of the machine. So I wasn’t worried about it. I’ve never been worried about stuff like that and I didn’t even know what success was going to look like for me. But I had a feeling that I was destined for it. And that’s the only way I can say is that it was it was very innate and I didn’t know where it was going to come from but I was very patient about it. Now I was also very patient about about you know I knew I was going to meet a great woman at some point and I was able to reach you know like you said read about a year ago but but recently. So I think that I have that that vibe that that it’s the same reason I don’t plan a lot. I just don’t. I’m living very much in the moment as I go day by day. And for better or for worse I don’t plan as much as I probably could or should. But right now I’m not really you know scared about anything. I mean I could say you know the show doesn’t grow at all. But even if it doesn’t I’m live in a great life right now. So I guess I’m not even that scared of that. OK last question before we send you back this time. Is it easier to move forward when you’ve hit rock bottom and you really did hit rock bottom. Yes it is. It’s easier for me to keep perspective on it. I just last weekend went to I went to Napa Valley with my girlfriend’s family and it was a very first class trip like from private private jet from San Diego to Napa Valley which I’ve never done before my life and everything was super exclusive super like Michelin star first class and I was like man I don’t want to be here like this. No I don’t mean like I didn’t want to be at the weekend. I just I don’t want to live in that universe of that sort of high end world. And that’s it. I I remember looking longingly at a train that goes through Napa Valley and it stops at all these different wineries and I’m kind of like Man I wish I would’ve just taken the train and gotten kind of drunk at the third winery and kept going and that would’ve been a really fun day. Instead it was like this you know 12 people serving our table kind of thing and it just wasn’t me. But my my Philly boy sort of like Kragen pragmatist personality carried me through that whole weekend thinking yeah I would be fine with stopping at a fast food place now and going to another winery. We don’t have to go to a hundred dollar plate dinner you know. And so I think if anything it’s given me perspective and there’s one more piece of perspective that in my very very lowest time and it was very low. And I thank you for not like making me go through that again like 40000 other shows have but I had a I remember the current hurricane Katrina had hit the southern United States and it just decimated New Orleans. And this was literally at my lowest time. And I remember looking on the news and seeing like a little 9 year old little black kid who everybody in his family died. Right. And he lost everything like lost every piece of memory he ever had including all of his family members. And he’s this kid who doesn’t have much of an education. He’s a minority. He doesn’t have a lot of opportunity that are coming coming to him and I remember thinking all right no matter what happens I’m a white male with a skill set in United States and that’s not and that’s not to be racially insensitive I’m looking. That was a practical. OK. So no matter what my situation is I can’t complain like I’m starting with these four advantages that a lot of people all over the world don’t have. I will be given opportunities that a lot of people don’t have and that really kept me grounded like that there was this you know that some people had to struggle to get to what I had innately by birth that I had nothing to do with. So that really kept me grounded and it still keeps me grounded to this day is that I always realize that there’s people out there that do not have the same opportunities that I knew the answer. Mike are we going to put you on the Sermon on the mike now. This is when we send you back in time lost a young Marty McFly to have a one on one with yourself and if you could go back in time. What age would you choose and what advice would you say. So I’m going to play the music and when he gets out you’re up. This is the Sermon on the mike. Here. We go with the speed of this. This man. Who. I think that first of all very handsome very very talented man couldn’t congratulate now. If you could work on harnessing that Philly attitude a little bit just over the next few years if you could take the edge off of that. Not everybody is out to get you and focus on building some relationships that you will sustain forever without having that kind of you know screw you Gene. Not Eugene. I don’t know anybody named Eugene. I’m not trying to signal that that will serve you in the future. Yeah. So to some or to to to bring that and I know that was very short but to bring that in I feel like over the last few years I’ve been able to take this. There was a bit of filea attitude like where if someone slighted me in any way that was it they were erased like done. And there was no real going back. It was partially like it was a Scorpio in me that that that’s sort of like had that stinger. And I you know it’s it’s the it’s the patience I have now which is maybe a little bit of it’s I wouldn’t say less judgment because I think judgment makes for good comedy. But but it’s just maybe being a little more empathetic to people’s situations and realizing that that people aren’t always in control of their actions and sometimes they’re going through a learning process as well. And to just instantly give them the guillotine and out of one’s life is not the most productive way to go through things. I don’t do that anymore but I did it for a number of years and I think it was just a reaction to losing my parents and it being so so much. OK Wolf I’m going to lose this anyway I might as well just cut it right off. And I think that didn’t that didn’t serve me for a long time. So I’d fix that. Michael how can our listeners connect with you sir. Well you know this. Oh I know you say you say in an American Xon is better I would say the same thing if you were speaking in a British accent. By the way you going to come on my show some time. I would love to come on your show it oh no great. And Howard Jones I want him to go. Has he been on your show yet. No he isn’t knocking me back. He said he would and not me but I’ve called a few of them that sign up for it. And then you just come down and that’s a drag. Anyway the show is called the Solar Perner hour. The Web site because no one can spell pre-New or is solo our dotcom. And if you’d like some coaching give a coaching program yet. I’ve only been focused on building you audience. That’s good. Well so if anybody needs coaching including you my friend I can’t believe you’re not in solo lab. I want solo lab dotcom and we’d love to have you in our really cool community. Mancow thank you so much for spending time with us tonight joining up those dots on the 100th episode and it’s quite the world’s longest episode of ever done as well. Please come listen. Is. Yeah we were about seven minutes past what we normally do. So come back again when you have more dots to join up because I do believe that by joining up the dots and connecting up pasts is the best way to build a future. Mr. Michael O’Neill thank you so much. And thank you.

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    © All Rights Reserved to the artists! http://chilloutsessionworld.blogspot.com This mix contains my favourite Michael E tracks: mixed by me. (it isn't a guest mix) The tracks are avaiable on https://itunes.apple.com/artist/michael-e. Please buy it. Support the artists! This mix is free to download: but just for personal use. All Rights Reserved to Michael E. 1.Michael E - Secret Dancer 2.Michael E - J'taime 3.Michael E - Bliss You 4.Michael E - Left Bank 5.Michael E - Wanderlust 6.Michael E - Promise 7.Michael E - Poolside 8.Michael E - Southern Comfort 9.Michael E - Dont Stop 10.Michael E - Carried By The Wind 11.Michael E - For Helene 12.Michael E - People Watching 13.Michael E - Deja Vu 14.Michael E - Breathe In Breathe Out 15.Michael E - Being In Love 16.Michael E - Ship to America 17.Michael E - City in the Sky 18.Michael E - A Feeling For Snow 19.Michael E - She Sleeps 20.Michael E - Pebbles 21.Michael E - Aha 22.Michael E - Ghost of Aviation 23.Michael E - Kiss 24.Michael E - Land of Beauty 25.Michael E - Monsoon 26.Michael E - Caress 27.Michael E - Sark of Searenity 28.Michael E - Rainy Thursday 29.Michael E - Mercy Mercy Me 30.Michael E - La Nuit

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    Företagsledare och industriman Michael Treschows Sommarprogram sprider mångfald och handlar om ungdomars alla möjligheter. I mitt program vill jag ge mina bilder från olika delar av världen och visa på vilka möjligheter som finns för de som är unga idag. Musiken blir mina mångfaldsfavoriter. Om Michael Treschow Ordförande i Unilever med närmare 200 000 anställda och en av svenskt näringslivs tungviktare som styrelseordförande i Ericsson. Tidigare koncernchef för Electrolux och Atlas Copco. Var under 2004-2007 ordförande i Svenskt Näringsliv. Har instiftat ett designstipendium. Producent: Anders Wennersten

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  • SPOOKTACULAR IV: BROTHER VS BROTHER PART 2: THE NIGHTMARE CONTINUES

    · 02:54:55 · Travis Bickle On The Riviera

    Thanks for downloading this episode of Travis Bickle--if you like what you hear, please check out our Patreon page to find out more about how you can help support the show! THE SEGMENTS On this special episode your hosts Sean CODE NAME: TRIXIE, Tucker Sayonara Stone, and Morgan Wet Donut in Aliens Jeske are joined by the voice talents of: 0:00:00 -  0:02:15 - Introductions / We are launching a Patreon! 0:02:30 - 2:54:53 - Continued from Part 1, our Roundtable Brother Vs Brother bracket, featuring 32 movies from the brothers with our brother in arms Devil Brothers. Brothers? Brothers.  0:11:57 - 0:55:03 - Domino with Springheel Jeff Lester and Grim McMillan. 1:08:47 - 1:31:38 - Man on Fire and Crimson Tide with Slay Leong. 1:47:31 - 2:28:53 - Deja Vu, Spy Game, Enemy of the State, Taking of Pelham 1 2 3, and Unstoppable with Ignatiy "The Hatchetman" Vishnevetsky. THE GUESTS Morgan Jeske's latest comic is ●●●● Vol. I and it can be purchased here. He is also the co-host of this show, dummy.  David Brothers is the host of the Image Comics podcast The I Word, and hosted more panels at comic conventions this year than any human ought to.  Ignatiy Vishnevetsky is the host of Film Club at the AV Club, where you can also read his criticism. Check out his 2012 article on Tony Scott's metaphysical romances at MUBI Notebook.  Sloane Leong's currently drawing From Under Mountains, and you can purchase her solo comics here. Jeff Lester & Graeme McMillan are the hosts of the Wait, What? comics podcast.  Which is taking part of a thing with about 30 other podcasts this month, featuring everybody and all the ships at sea. THE MOVIES THE MOVIES The films of Tony Scott The Hunger (1983), starring David Bowie, Susan Sarandon, Catharine Denueve, Cliff De Young, Beth Ehlers, and Dan Hedeya. Written by Ian Davis, Michael Thomas, and Whitley Streiber. Music by Danny Jaeger and Michael Rubini. Cinematography by Stephen Goldblatt. Editing by Pamela Power. Production design by Brian Morris. Costume design by Milena Canonero. Special makeup effects by Dick Smith.  Top Gun (1986), starring Tom Cruise, Val Kilmer, Kelly McGillis, Anthony Edwards, Tom Skerrrit, Michael Ironsides, and John Stockwell. Written by Jim Cash and Jack Epps Jr. Music by Harold Faltermeyer. Cinematography by Jeffrey Kimball. Editing by Chris Lebenzon and Billy Weber.  Beverly Hills Cop 2 (1987), starring Eddie Murphy, Judge Reinhold, Jurgen Pronchow, Ronny Cox, John Ashton, Brigitte Neilsen, Allen Garfield, Dean Stockwell, Paul Reiser, Gilbert R. Hill, Chris Rock, and Paul Guilfoyle. Written by Larry Ferguson, Warren Skaaren, David Giler, and Dennis Klein. Music by Harold Faltermeyer. Cinematography by Jeffrey Kimball.  Editing by Chris Lebenzon, Michael Tronick, and Billy Weber. Revenge (1990), starring Kevin Costner, Madeline Stowe, Anthony Quinn, Tomas Milian, Sally Kirkland, Miguel Ferrer, and John Leguizamo. Written by Jim Harrison and Jeffrey Fiskin. Music by Jack Nitzsche. Cinematography by Jeffrey Kimball. Editing by Chris Lebenzon and Michael Tronick.  Days of Thunder (1990), starring Tom Cruise, Nicole Kidman, Robert Duvall, Randy Quaid, Cary Elwes, John C. Reilly, Fred Thompson, and Michael Rooker. Written by Robert Towne. Editing by Chris Lebenzon, Michael Tronick, Robert C Jones, Bert Lovitz, Stuart Waks, and Billy Weber. Music by Hans Zimmer. Cinematography by Ward Russell.  The Last Boy Scout (1991), starring Bruce Willis, Damon Wayans, Taylor Negron, Danielle Harris, Chelsea Field, Noble Willingham, Halle Berry, Kim Coates, and Bruce McGill. Written by Shane Black and Greg Hicks. Music by Michael Kamen. Editing by Stuart Baird, Mark Helfrich, and Mark Goldblatt. Cinematography by Ward Russell.  True Romance (1993), starring Christian Slater, Patricia Arquette, Dennis Hopper, Christopher Walken, Val Kilmer, Gary Oldman, Brad Pitt, Sam Jackson, Bronson Pinchot, Chris Penn, Michael Rappaport, Saul Rubinek, James Gandolfini, Victor Argo, Kevin Corrigan, Paul Ben-Victor, and Ed Lauter. Written by Quentin Tarantino. Music by Hans Zimmer. Cinematography by Jeffrey Kimball. Editing by Michael Tronick and Christian Wagner.  Crimson Tide (1995), starring Denzel Washington, Gene Hackman, Matt Craven, Viggo Mortensen, George Dzundza, Jason Robards, and James Gandolfini. Written by Michael Schiffer and Quentin Tarantino. Music by Hans Zimmer. Cinematography by Dariusz Wolski. Editing by Chris Lebenzon.  The Fan (1996), starring Robert Deniro, Wesley Snipes, Ellen Barkin, John Leguizamo, and Benicio Del Toro. Written by Phoef Sutton. Cinematography by Dariusz Wolski. Music by Hans Zimmer. Editing by Claire Simpson and Christian Wagner. Enemy of the State (1998), starring Will Smith, Gene Hackman, Jon Voight, Lisa Bonet, Regina King, Barry Pepper, Stuart Wilson, Ian Hart, Scott Caan, Jake Busey, Jason Lee, Gabriel Byrne, Dan Butler, Jack Black, Jamie Kennedy, Seth Green, Anna Gunn, Tom Sizemore, and Jason Robards. Written by David Marconi. Music by Harry Gregson Williams and Trevor Williams. Cinematography by Daniel Mendel. Editing by Chris Lebenzon.  Spy Game (2001), starring Brad Pitt, Robert Redford, Catharine McCormack, Stephen Dillane, Marianne Jean-Baptiste, David Hemmings, Benedict Wong, and Charlotte Rampling. Written by Michael Frost Beckner and David Arata. Music by Harry Gregson Williams. Cinematography by Daniel Mendel. Editing by Christian Wagner.  Man on Fire (2004), starring Denzel Washingston, Dakota Fanning, Christopher Walken, Radha Mitchell, Marc Anthony, Giancarlo Gianini, Mickey Rourke, Rachel Ticotin, and Jesus Ochoa. Written by Brian Hegeland. Music by Harry Gregson Williams. Editing by Christian Wagner. Cinematography by Paul Cameron. Domino (2005), starring Keira Knightley, Mickey Rourke, Edgar Ramirez, Delroy Lindo, Monique, Mena Suvari, Christopher Walken, Lew Temple, Macy Gray, Jacqueline Bissett, Dabney Coleman, Ian Zering, Brian Austin Green, T.K. Carter, and Lucy Liu. Written by Richard Kelly and Steve Barancik. Music by Harry Gregson Williams. Editing by Christian Wagner and William Goldenberg. Cinematography by Daniel Mendel.  Deja Vu (2006), starring Denzel Washington, Paula Patton, Val Kilmer, Jim Caviezel, Adam Goldberg, Erika Alexander, Elle Fanning, and Bruce Greenwood. Written by Terry Rossio and Bill Marsili. Music by Harry Gregson Williams. Cinematography by Paul Cameron. Editing by Chris Lebenzon and Jason Hellman.  Taking of Pelham 1 2 3 (2009), starring Denzel Washington, John Travolta, Luis Guzman, John Tutturo, and James Gandolfini. Written by Brian Hegeland. Music by Harry Gregson Williams. Editing by Chris Lebenzon. Cinematography by Tobias A. Schliessler.  Unstoppable (2010), starring Denzel Washington, Chris Pine, Rosario Dawson, Ethan Suplee, TJ Miller, Kevin Dunn. Lew Temple, Kevin Corrigan, and Kevin Chapman. Written by Mark Bomback. Music by Harry Gregson Williams. Editing by Chris Lebenzon and Robert Duffy. Cinematography by Ben Seresin.  The films of Ridley Scott The Duellists (1977), starring Keith Carradine, Harvey Keitel, Albert Finney, Cristina Raines, Edward Fox, Tom Conti, Stacey Keach and Diana Quick. Written by Gerald Vaughn Hughes, cinematography by Frank Tidy, edited by Pamela Power. Music by Howard Blake.  Alien (1979), starring Sigourney Weaver, Yaphet Kotto, Tom Skerritt, Veronica Cartwright, John Hurt, Harry Dean Stanton, and Ian Holm. Written by Walter Hill, David Giler, Dan O'Bannon & Ron Shussett. Cinematography by Vanlint. Design work by HR Giger, Moebius, Ron Cobb, Chris Foss, Carlo Rambaldi, Roger Christian, and Michael Seymour. Music by Jerry Goldsmith. Editing by Terry Rawlings and Peter Weatherly. Blade Runner (1982), starring Harrison Ford, Sean Young, Rutger Hauer, Edward James Olmos, M. Emmet Walsh, Daryl Hannah, William Sanderson, Brion James, Joe Turkel, Joanna Cassidy, and James Hong. Music by Vangelis. Cinematography by Jordan Cronenweth. Editing by Terry Rawlings and Marsha Nakashima. Design work by Syd Mead and David Synder. Screenplay by Hampton Fancher and David Peoples.  Legend (1985), starring Tom Cruise, Mia Sara, Tim Curry, David Bennent, Alice Playten, Billy Barty, and Annabelle Lanyon. Written by William Hjortsburg. Produced by Arnon Milchan. Music by (depending on which cut) Jerry Goldsmith and Tangerine Dream. Cinematography by Alex Thomson. Editing by Terry Rawlings. Design work by Assheton Gordon, Les Dilley, Norman Dorme, Ann Mollo, and Charles Knode. Special Makeup Effects by Rob Bottin.  Someone To Watch Over Me (1987), starring Tom Berenger, Mimi Rogers, Lorraine Bracco, Jerry Orbach, and John Rubenstein. Written by Howard Franklin. Music by Michael Kamen. Edited by Claire Simpson. Produced by Ridley Scott, Thierry De Ganay, and Harold Schneider.  Black Rain (1989), starring Michael Douglas, Andy Garcia, Ken Takakura, Kate Capshaw, Yusaku Matsuda, Shigero Koyama, Stephen Root, Jun Kumimura, Al Leong, and Luis Guzman. Written by Craig Bolotin and Warren Lewis. Produced by Craig Bolotin, Stanley R. Jaffe, Julie Kirkham, and Sherry Lansing. Edited by Tom Rolf. Music by Hans Zimmer. Cinematography by Jan De Bont. Production design by Norris Spencer.   Thelma & Louise (1991), starring Susan Sarandon, Geena Davis, Harvey Keitel, Christopher McDonald, Brad Pitt, Stephen Tobolowsky, Michael Madsen, and Jason Beghe. Written by Callie Khouri. Produced by Ridley Scott and Mimi Polk Gitlin. Music by Hans Zimmer. Editing by Thom Noble. Cinematography by Adrian Biddle. Production Design by Norris Spencer.  1492: The Conquest of Paradise (1992), starring Gerard Depardiu, Armand Assante, Ridley Scot, Fernando Rey, Frank Langella, Tcheky Kayro, Angela Molina, and Arnold Vosloo. Written by Rose Bosch. Cinematography by Adrian Biddle. Music by Vangelis. Production design by Norris Spencer.  White Squall (1996), starring Jeff Bridges, Caroline Goodall, Scott Wolf, Ryan Phillipe, Jeremy Sisto, Balthazar Getty, Zeljko Ivanek, and Ethan Embry. Written by Todd Robinson. Cinematography by Hugh Johnson. Music by Jeff Rona. Editing by Gerry Hambling.  G.I. Jane (1997), starring Demi Moore, Viggo Mortensen, Jim Caviezel, Anne Bancroft, Jason Beghe, John Michael Higgins, and Morris Chestnut. Written by Danielle Alexandra andDavid Twohy. Cinematography by Hugh Johnson. Edited by Pietro Scalia. Music by Trevor Jones. Production design by Arthur Max.  Gladiator (2000), starring Russell Crowe, Joaquin Phoenix, Connie Neilsen, Oliver Reed, Richard Harris, Djimon Honsou, David Hemmings, Tommy Flanagan, and Sven Ole Thorson. Written by David Franzioni, John Logan, and William Nicholson. Music by Hans Zimmer and Lisa Gerard. Cinematography by John Mathieson. Editing by Pietro Scalia. Production design by Arthur Max.  Hannibal (2001), starring Anthony Hopkins, Julienne Moore, Gary Oldman, Ray Liotta, Zeljko Ivanek, Frankie Faison, Giancarlo Giannini, and Francesca Niri. Written by David Mamet and Steve Zaillian. Music by Hans Zimmer. Cinematography by John Mathieson. Editing by Pietro Scalia. Production design by Norris Spencer.  Black Hawk Down (2001), starring Eric Bana, Josh Hartnett, Ewan McGregor, Tom Sizemore, Orlando Bloom, Sam Shepard, William Fichtner, Ewan Bremmer, Kim Coates, Hugh Dancey, Ron Eldard, Ioan Grufford, Zeljko Ivanek, Jeremy Piven, and Tom Hardy. Written by Mark Bowden and Ken Nolan. Music by Hans Zimmer. Cinematography by Slawomir Idziak. Editing by Pietro Scalia. Production Design by Arthur Max.  Matchstick Men (2003), starring Nicholas Cage, Sam Rockwell, Alison Lohman, Bruce McGill, Bruce Altman, and Melora Waters. Written by Nicholas and Ted Griffin. Music by Hans Zimmer. Cinematography by John Mathieson. Editing by Dody Dorn. Production design by Tom Foden.  Kingdom of Heaven (2005), starring Orlando Bloom, Michael Sheen, David Thewlis, Liam Neeson, Eva Green, Edward Norton, Kevin McKidd, Martin Csokas, Brendan Gleeson, Jeremy Irons, and Ghasan Massoud. Written by William Monahan. Music by Harry Gregson Williams. Cinematography by John Mathieson. Editing by Dody Dorn. Production design by Arthur Max.  A Good Year (2006), starring Russell Crowe, Marion Cottilard, Albert Finney, Freddie Highmore, Rafe Spall, Archie Panjabi, and Richard Coyle. Written by Marc Klein. Music by Martin Streitenfeld. Cinematography by Phillipe Le Sourd. Editing by Dody Dorn and Robb Sullivan. Production design by Sonja Klaus.  American Gangster (2007), starring Denzel Washington, Russell Crowe, Cuba Gooding Jr., Chewitel Ejifor, Idris Elba, Josh Brolin, John Hawks, Lymari Nadal, Ted Levine, Rza, Yul Vazquez, Ruby Dee, Carla Gugino, John Ortiz, Joe Morton, T.I., Armand Assante, John Polito, Kevin Corrigan, Norman Reedus, and Anthony Hamilton. Written by Steve Zaillian. Cinematography by Harris Savides. Music by Martin Streitenfeld. Editing by Pietro Scalia. Production design by Arthur Max.  Body of Lies (2008), starring Leonardo Dicaprio, Russell Crowe, Mark Strong, Golshifteh Farahani, Oscar Isaac, Ali Suliman, and Simon McBurney. Written by William Monahan. Cinematography by Alexander Witt. Music by Martin Streitenfeld. Editing by Pietro Scalia. Production design by Arthur Max.  Robin Hood (2010), starring Russell Crowe, Cate Blanchett, Max Von Sydow, William Hurt, Mark Strong, Oscar Isaac, Danny Huston, Eiileen Atkins, Mark Addy, Scott Grimes, and Lea Seydoux. Written by Brian Hegeland. Music by Martin Streitenfeld. Editing by Pietro Scalia. Production design by Arthur Max. Cinematography by John Mathieson. Prometheus (2012), starring Noomi Rapace, Charlize Theron, Michael Fassbender, Idris Elba, Guy Pearce, Rafe Spall, Logan Marshall-Green, Sean Harris, and Benedict Wong. Written by John Spaihts and Damon Lindelof. Music by Martin Streitenfeld. Editing by Pietro Scalia. Production design by Arthur Max. Cinematography by Dariusz Wolski.  The Counselor (2013), starring Michael Fassbender, Brad Pitt, Penelope Cruz, Cameron Diaz, Javier Bardem, Bruno Ganz, Rosie Perez, Dean Norris, John Leguizamo, Rueben Blades, Edgar Ramirez, Goran Visnjic, and Sam Spruell. Written by Cormac McCarthy. Music by Daniel Pemberton. Editing by Pietro Scalia. Production design by Arthur Max. Cinematography by Dariusz Wolski.  Exodus: Gods and Kings (2014), starring Christian Bale, Joel Edgerton, Sigourney Weaver, John Tutturo, Aaron Paul, Ben Mendelsohn, Maria Valverde, and Ben Kingsly. Music by Alberto Iglesias. Editing by Billy Rich. Production design by Arthur Max. Cinematography by Dariusz Wolski. Written by Adam Cooper, Bill Collage, Steve Zaillian, and Jeffrey Caine.  The Martian (2015), starring Matt Damon, Jessica Chastain, Kristen Wiig, Jeff Daniels, Michael Pena, Sean Bean, Kate Mara, Sebastian Stan, Aksel Hennie, Chewitel Ejifor, and Benedict Wong. Written by Drew Goddard. Music by Harry Gregson-Williams. Editing by Pietro Scalia. Production design by Arthur Max. Cinematography by Dariusz Wolski.  ALSO DISCUSSED IN THIS SECTION Christopher McQuarrie, Dances With Wolves, Waterworld, Valkyrie, Jack Reacher, Risky Business, Three Days to Kill, Lethal Weapon, The Long Kiss Goodnight, Sonny Chiba, Kevin Pollack, Jay Mohr, Action, Steve Engleheart, The Property Brothers, Sniper, Gone Girl, Claire Denis, Michael Mann, Kathryn Bigelow, Richard Kelly, Donnie Darko, Quentin Tarantino, The Manchurian Candidate, Roger Avery, Brian De Palma, Obsession, Rob Zombie, Joe Carnahan, Edgar Wright, Mad Max Fury Road, Pirates of the Caribbean, Charlize Theron, Meryl Streep, Laurence Harvey, Guy Maddin, Cowards Bend the Knee, Smokin Aces, Garfield Without Garfield, Richard Kelly and Quentin Tarantino in conversation talking about writing for Tony Scott, Agent Orange, Beat the Devil, Cahiers Du Cinema, Point of No Return, Bridget Fonda, Single White Female, Olivier Assayas, George Miller, Michael Bay, Terrence Malick, Michael Cimino, Beverly Hills Cop 3, The Killing, I'm Gonna Get You Sucka, New Jack City, John Landis, 2001: A Space Odyssey, The Getaway, Cary Grant, Boomerang, the Red Ghost, '71, Trainspotting, Drive Angry, Strange Days, Heat, Zulu, Shigeru Mizuki, The Hurt Locker, Roger Corman, Battleship, Man on Fire (1987), A Knights Tale, Payback, The Runaways, Takashi Ito, John Wick, Nightwatch, A.O. Scott, Dune, Safe House, Bastards, John Q, Liam Neeson, Inside Man, Eastern Promises, Akira Kurosawa & Toshiro Mifune, Paul Thomas Anderson, Johnny Carson, Unforgiven, French Connection, Conan, The Royal Tenenbaums, "Simpson Tide", Farewell My Lovely, Battleship Potemkin, Akira, Neuromancer, The Incal, The Airtight Garage, Enki Bilal, Barry Lyndon, The Texas Chainsaw Massacre, Godfather, Zoot Suit, Orson Welles, Interstellar, Person Of Interest, CSI,  Robert Rauschenberg, Nicholas Roeg, John Hyams, Z Nation, Gamer, John Carpenter, Undisputed 3, Undisputed 2, US Seals, Return to Savage Beach, Warrior, Vertigo, Henry James, Out of the Furnace, The Hunger Games, Temple of the Dog, Pearl Jam, The Long Goodbye, A Clockwork Orange, Reservoir Dogs, Pump Up The Volume, Osterman Weekend, Ricochet, Terminator, Jack Reacher, Bill Paxton, Predator, Aliens, The Conversation,  Chris Ryan & Sean Fennessey on Ridley Scott, True Detective Season 2, Craig Bierko, Friday Night Lights, Explosions in the Sky, The Punisher, Sicario, and A.A. Ron.   MUSIC Jamie Lee Curtis' prison introduction from Escape From New York (our intro, as always) Cliff Martinez - "Placental Repair" from The Knick Iggy Pop - "Funtime" from The Hunger Prince - "Gett Off" from The Last Boy Scout. Hans Zimmer - "Chant" from Black Hawk Down. Nine Inch Nails - "The Mark Has Been Made" from Man On Fire. Harry Gregson Williams - "The End" from Man On Fire. Harry Gregson Williams - "Red Shirt" from Spy Game. Harry Gregson Williams - "Frank Barnes" from Unstoppable. Marianne Faithful - "Ballad of Lucy Jordan" from Thelma & Louise. Next Week: Crimson Peak and Steve Jobs.  

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  • SPOOKTACULAR IV: BROTHER VS BROTHER

    · 03:26:11 · Travis Bickle On The Riviera

    We have been talking about doing a Ridley Scott vs Tony Scott special since the earliest episodes of the show, and we're finally doing it now for this year's Halloween special. And due to the scope of the thing, it's longer than Steven Wright reading the unexpurgated bible aloud to DJ Screw. Today's show is part 1, please check out part 2 available this Friday. Here are career retrospective video interviews with Tony and Ridley Scott, please check these out. They've informed how we talk about each director going into the show.   THE SEGMENTS On this special episode your hosts Alternate Memphis Mafia Timeline Sean Witzke and Tucker Sayonara Stone are joined by the voice talents of: 0:00:00 - 3:26:09 - Roundtable Brother Vs Brother bracket, featuring 32 movies from the brothers with our brothers in arms Devil Brothers and Wet Donut In Aliens. Brothers? Brothers.  0:13:06 - 0:42:55 - The Duellists and The Hunger with John Keogh's 's Shadow Burned Into a Wall. 1:06:22 - 1:55:15 - The Counselor and Prometheus with Mater SuSarahia. 2:09:09 - 2:30:48 - Days of Thunder with Spawn of Mork. THE GUESTS   Morgan Jeske's latest comic is ●●●● Vol. I and it can be purchased here. He is also the co-host of this show, dummy.  David Brothers is the host of the Image Comics podcast The I Word, and hosted more panels at comic conventions this year than any human ought to.  John Keogh's webcomic is The Pillars of Fear, read it and taste the chain. He is also co-runner of SCRENSHOS. Sarah Horrocks is co-host of the Trash Twins podcast with Katie Skelly (Sean edits that), and you can read her latest comic, The Leopard, here.  John Schork's writing can be read at Village Machine.  THE MOVIES The films of Tony Scott The Hunger (1983), starring David Bowie, Susan Sarandon, Catharine Denueve, Cliff De Young, Beth Ehlers, and Dan Hedeya. Written by Ian Davis, Michael Thomas, and Whitley Streiber. Music by Danny Jaeger and Michael Rubini. Cinematography by Stephen Goldblatt. Editing by Pamela Power. Production design by Brian Morris. Costume design by Milena Canonero. Special makeup effects by Dick Smith.  Top Gun (1986), starring Tom Cruise, Val Kilmer, Kelly McGillis, Anthony Edwards, Tom Skerrrit, Michael Ironsides, and John Stockwell. Written by Jim Cash and Jack Epps Jr. Music by Harold Faltermeyer. Cinematography by Jeffrey Kimball. Editing by Chris Lebenzon and Billy Weber.  Beverly Hills Cop 2 (1987), starring Eddie Murphy, Judge Reinhold, Jurgen Pronchow, Ronny Cox, John Ashton, Brigitte Neilsen, Allen Garfield, Dean Stockwell, Paul Reiser, Gilbert R. Hill, Chris Rock, and Paul Guilfoyle. Written by Larry Ferguson, Warren Skaaren, David Giler, and Dennis Klein. Music by Harold Faltermeyer. Cinematography by Jeffrey Kimball.  Editing by Chris Lebenzon, Michael Tronick, and Billy Weber. Revenge (1990), starring Kevin Costner, Madeline Stowe, Anthony Quinn, Tomas Milian, Sally Kirkland, Miguel Ferrer, and John Leguizamo. Written by Jim Harrison and Jeffrey Fiskin. Music by Jack Nitzsche. Cinematography by Jeffrey Kimball. Editing by Chris Lebenzon and Michael Tronick.  Days of Thunder (1990), starring Tom Cruise, Nicole Kidman, Robert Duvall, Randy Quaid, Cary Elwes, John C. Reilly, Fred Thompson, and Michael Rooker. Written by Robert Towne. Editing by Chris Lebenzon, Michael Tronick, Robert C Jones, Bert Lovitz, Stuart Waks, and Billy Weber. Music by Hans Zimmer. Cinematography by Ward Russell.  The Last Boy Scout (1991), starring Bruce Willis, Damon Wayans, Taylor Negron, Danielle Harris, Chelsea Field, Noble Willingham, Halle Berry, Kim Coates, and Bruce McGill. Written by Shane Black and Greg Hicks. Music by Michael Kamen. Editing by Stuart Baird, Mark Helfrich, and Mark Goldblatt. Cinematography by Ward Russell.  True Romance (1993), starring Christian Slater, Patricia Arquette, Dennis Hopper, Christopher Walken, Val Kilmer, Gary Oldman, Brad Pitt, Sam Jackson, Bronson Pinchot, Chris Penn, Michael Rappaport, Saul Rubinek, James Gandolfini, Victor Argo, Kevin Corrigan, Paul Ben-Victor, and Ed Lauter. Written by Quentin Tarantino. Music by Hans Zimmer. Cinematography by Jeffrey Kimball. Editing by Michael Tronick and Christian Wagner.  Crimson Tide (1995), starring Denzel Washington, Gene Hackman, Matt Craven, Viggo Mortensen, George Dzundza, Jason Robards, and James Gandolfini. Written by Michael Schiffer and Quentin Tarantino. Music by Hans Zimmer. Cinematography by Dariusz Wolski. Editing by Chris Lebenzon.  The Fan (1996), starring Robert Deniro, Wesley Snipes, Ellen Barkin, John Leguizamo, and Benicio Del Toro. Written by Phoef Sutton. Cinematography by Dariusz Wolski. Music by Hans Zimmer. Editing by Claire Simpson and Christian Wagner. Enemy of the State (1998), starring Will Smith, Gene Hackman, Jon Voight, Lisa Bonet, Regina King, Barry Pepper, Stuart Wilson, Ian Hart, Scott Caan, Jake Busey, Jason Lee, Gabriel Byrne, Dan Butler, Jack Black, Jamie Kennedy, Seth Green, Anna Gunn, Tom Sizemore, and Jason Robards. Written by David Marconi. Music by Harry Gregson Williams and Trevor Williams. Cinematography by Daniel Mendel. Editing by Chris Lebenzon.  Spy Game (2001), starring Brad Pitt, Robert Redford, Catharine McCormack, Stephen Dillane, Marianne Jean-Baptiste, David Hemmings, Benedict Wong, and Charlotte Rampling. Written by Michael Frost Beckner and David Arata. Music by Harry Gregson Williams. Cinematography by Daniel Mendel. Editing by Christian Wagner.  Man on Fire (2004), starring Denzel Washingston, Dakota Fanning, Christopher Walken, Radha Mitchell, Marc Anthony, Giancarlo Gianini, Mickey Rourke, Rachel Ticotin, and Jesus Ochoa. Written by Brian Hegeland. Music by Harry Gregson Williams. Editing by Christian Wagner. Cinematography by Paul Cameron. Domino (2005), starring Keira Knightley, Mickey Rourke, Edgar Ramirez, Delroy Lindo, Monique, Mena Suvari, Christopher Walken, Lew Temple, Macy Gray, Jacqueline Bissett, Dabney Coleman, Ian Zering, Brian Austin Green, T.K. Carter, and Lucy Liu. Written by Richard Kelly and Steve Barancik. Music by Harry Gregson Williams. Editing by Christian Wagner and William Goldenberg. Cinematography by Daniel Mendel.  Deja Vu (2006), starring Denzel Washington, Paula Patton, Val Kilmer, Jim Caviezel, Adam Goldberg, Erika Alexander, Elle Fanning, and Bruce Greenwood. Written by Terry Rossio and Bill Marsili. Music by Harry Gregson Williams. Cinematography by Paul Cameron. Editing by Chris Lebenzon and Jason Hellman.  Taking of Pelham 1 2 3 (2009), starring Denzel Washington, John Travolta, Luis Guzman, John Tutturo, and James Gandolfini. Written by Brian Hegeland. Music by Harry Gregson Williams. Editing by Chris Lebenzon. Cinematography by Tobias A. Schliessler.  Unstoppable (2010), starring Denzel Washington, Chris Pine, Rosario Dawson, Ethan Suplee, TJ Miller, Kevin Dunn. Lew Temple, Kevin Corrigan, and Kevin Chapman. Written by Mark Bomback. Music by Harry Gregson Williams. Editing by Chris Lebenzon and Robert Duffy. Cinematography by Ben Seresin.  The films of Ridley Scott The Duellists (1977), starring Keith Carradine, Harvey Keitel, Albert Finney, Cristina Raines, Edward Fox, Tom Conti, Stacey Keach and Diana Quick. Written by Gerald Vaughn Hughes, cinematography by Frank Tidy, edited by Pamela Power. Music by Howard Blake.  Alien (1979), starring Sigourney Weaver, Yaphet Kotto, Tom Skerritt, Veronica Cartwright, John Hurt, Harry Dean Stanton, and Ian Holm. Written by Walter Hill, David Giler, Dan O'Bannon & Ron Shussett. Cinematography by Vanlint. Design work by HR Giger, Moebius, Ron Cobb, Chris Foss, Carlo Rambaldi, Roger Christian, and Michael Seymour. Music by Jerry Goldsmith. Editing by Terry Rawlings and Peter Weatherly. Blade Runner (1982), starring Harrison Ford, Sean Young, Rutger Hauer, Edward James Olmos, M. Emmet Walsh, Daryl Hannah, William Sanderson, Brion James, Joe Turkel, Joanna Cassidy, and James Hong. Music by Vangelis. Cinematography by Jordan Cronenweth. Editing by Terry Rawlings and Marsha Nakashima. Design work by Syd Mead and David Synder. Screenplay by Hampton Fancher and David Peoples.  Legend (1985), starring Tom Cruise, Mia Sara, Tim Curry, David Bennent, Alice Playten, Billy Barty, and Annabelle Lanyon. Written by William Hjortsburg. Produced by Arnon Milchan. Music by (depending on which cut) Jerry Goldsmith and Tangerine Dream. Cinematography by Alex Thomson. Editing by Terry Rawlings. Design work by Assheton Gordon, Les Dilley, Norman Dorme, Ann Mollo, and Charles Knode. Special Makeup Effects by Rob Bottin.  Someone To Watch Over Me (1987), starring Tom Berenger, Mimi Rogers, Lorraine Bracco, Jerry Orbach, and John Rubenstein. Written by Howard Franklin. Music by Michael Kamen. Edited by Claire Simpson. Produced by Ridley Scott, Thierry De Ganay, and Harold Schneider.  Black Rain (1989), starring Michael Douglas, Andy Garcia, Ken Takakura, Kate Capshaw, Yusaku Matsuda, Shigero Koyama, Stephen Root, Jun Kumimura, Al Leong, and Luis Guzman. Written by Craig Bolotin and Warren Lewis. Produced by Craig Bolotin, Stanley R. Jaffe, Julie Kirkham, and Sherry Lansing. Edited by Tom Rolf. Music by Hans Zimmer. Cinematography by Jan De Bont. Production design by Norris Spencer.   Thelma & Louise (1991), starring Susan Sarandon, Geena Davis, Harvey Keitel, Christopher McDonald, Brad Pitt, Stephen Tobolowsky, Michael Madsen, and Jason Beghe. Written by Callie Khouri. Produced by Ridley Scott and Mimi Polk Gitlin. Music by Hans Zimmer. Editing by Thom Noble. Cinematography by Adrian Biddle. Production Design by Norris Spencer.  1492: The Conquest of Paradise (1992), starring Gerard Depardiu, Armand Assante, Ridley Scot, Fernando Rey, Frank Langella, Tcheky Kayro, Angela Molina, and Arnold Vosloo. Written by Rose Bosch. Cinematography by Adrian Biddle. Music by Vangelis. Production design by Norris Spencer.  White Squall (1996), starring Jeff Bridges, Caroline Goodall, Scott Wolf, Ryan Phillipe, Jeremy Sisto, Balthazar Getty, Zeljko Ivanek, and Ethan Embry. Written by Todd Robinson. Cinematography by Hugh Johnson. Music by Jeff Rona. Editing by Gerry Hambling.  G.I. Jane (1997), starring Demi Moore, Viggo Mortensen, Jim Caviezel, Anne Bancroft, Jason Beghe, John Michael Higgins, and Morris Chestnut. Written by Danielle Alexandra andDavid Twohy. Cinematography by Hugh Johnson. Edited by Pietro Scalia. Music by Trevor Jones. Production design by Arthur Max.  Gladiator (2000), starring Russell Crowe, Joaquin Phoenix, Connie Neilsen, Oliver Reed, Richard Harris, Djimon Honsou, David Hemmings, Tommy Flanagan, and Sven Ole Thorson. Written by David Franzioni, John Logan, and William Nicholson. Music by Hans Zimmer and Lisa Gerard. Cinematography by John Mathieson. Editing by Pietro Scalia. Production design by Arthur Max.  Hannibal (2001), starring Anthony Hopkins, Julienne Moore, Gary Oldman, Ray Liotta, Zeljko Ivanek, Frankie Faison, Giancarlo Giannini, and Francesca Niri. Written by David Mamet and Steve Zaillian. Music by Hans Zimmer. Cinematography by John Mathieson. Editing by Pietro Scalia. Production design by Norris Spencer.  Black Hawk Down (2001), starring Eric Bana, Josh Hartnett, Ewan McGregor, Tom Sizemore, Orlando Bloom, Sam Shepard, William Fichtner, Ewan Bremmer, Kim Coates, Hugh Dancey, Ron Eldard, Ioan Grufford, Zeljko Ivanek, Jeremy Piven, and Tom Hardy. Written by Mark Bowden and Ken Nolan. Music by Hans Zimmer. Cinematography by Slawomir Idziak. Editing by Pietro Scalia. Production Design by Arthur Max.  Matchstick Men (2003), starring Nicholas Cage, Sam Rockwell, Alison Lohman, Bruce McGill, Bruce Altman, and Melora Waters. Written by Nicholas and Ted Griffin. Music by Hans Zimmer. Cinematography by John Mathieson. Editing by Dody Dorn. Production design by Tom Foden.  Kingdom of Heaven (2005), starring Orlando Bloom, Michael Sheen, David Thewlis, Liam Neeson, Eva Green, Edward Norton, Kevin McKidd, Martin Csokas, Brendan Gleeson, Jeremy Irons, and Ghasan Massoud. Written by William Monahan. Music by Harry Gregson Williams. Cinematography by John Mathieson. Editing by Dody Dorn. Production design by Arthur Max.  A Good Year (2006), starring Russell Crowe, Marion Cottilard, Albert Finney, Freddie Highmore, Rafe Spall, Archie Panjabi, and Richard Coyle. Written by Marc Klein. Music by Martin Streitenfeld. Cinematography by Phillipe Le Sourd. Editing by Dody Dorn and Robb Sullivan. Production design by Sonja Klaus.  American Gangster (2007), starring Denzel Washington, Russell Crowe, Cuba Gooding Jr., Chewitel Ejifor, Idris Elba, Josh Brolin, John Hawks, Lymari Nadal, Ted Levine, Rza, Yul Vazquez, Ruby Dee, Carla Gugino, John Ortiz, Joe Morton, T.I., Armand Assante, John Polito, Kevin Corrigan, Norman Reedus, and Anthony Hamilton. Written by Steve Zaillian. Cinematography by Harris Savides. Music by Martin Streitenfeld. Editing by Pietro Scalia. Production design by Arthur Max.  Body of Lies (2008), starring Leonardo Dicaprio, Russell Crowe, Mark Strong, Golshifteh Farahani, Oscar Isaac, Ali Suliman, and Simon McBurney. Written by William Monahan. Cinematography by Alexander Witt. Music by Martin Streitenfeld. Editing by Pietro Scalia. Production design by Arthur Max.  Robin Hood (2010), starring Russell Crowe, Cate Blanchett, Max Von Sydow, William Hurt, Mark Strong, Oscar Isaac, Danny Huston, Eiileen Atkins, Mark Addy, Scott Grimes, and Lea Seydoux. Written by Brian Hegeland. Music by Martin Streitenfeld. Editing by Pietro Scalia. Production design by Arthur Max. Cinematography by John Mathieson. Prometheus (2012), starring Noomi Rapace, Charlize Theron, Michael Fassbender, Idris Elba, Guy Pearce, Rafe Spall, Logan Marshall-Green, Sean Harris, and Benedict Wong. Written by John Spaihts and Damon Lindelof. Music by Martin Streitenfeld. Editing by Pietro Scalia. Production design by Arthur Max. Cinematography by Dariusz Wolski.  The Counselor (2013), starring Michael Fassbender, Brad Pitt, Penelope Cruz, Cameron Diaz, Javier Bardem, Bruno Ganz, Rosie Perez, Dean Norris, John Leguizamo, Rueben Blades, Edgar Ramirez, Goran Visnjic, and Sam Spruell. Written by Cormac McCarthy. Music by Daniel Pemberton. Editing by Pietro Scalia. Production design by Arthur Max. Cinematography by Dariusz Wolski.  Exodus: Gods and Kings (2014), starring Christian Bale, Joel Edgerton, Sigourney Weaver, John Tutturo, Aaron Paul, Ben Mendelsohn, Maria Valverde, and Ben Kingsly. Music by Alberto Iglesias. Editing by Billy Rich. Production design by Arthur Max. Cinematography by Dariusz Wolski. Written by Adam Cooper, Bill Collage, Steve Zaillian, and Jeffrey Caine.  The Martian (2015), starring Matt Damon, Jessica Chastain, Kristen Wiig, Jeff Daniels, Michael Pena, Sean Bean, Kate Mara, Sebastian Stan, Aksel Hennie, Chewitel Ejifor, and Benedict Wong. Written by Drew Goddard. Music by Harry Gregson-Williams. Editing by Pietro Scalia. Production design by Arthur Max. Cinematography by Dariusz Wolski.  Also discussed on this episode: The Hardy Boys Case Files,  Commando, Nancy Drew, King of New York, The Babysitters Club, Joe Dirt, Always Sunny in Philadelphia, Idris Elba, The Open Curtain, Chuck Palahniuk, Tom Cruise, Mimi Rogers, 1984 Apple Commercial, Beyond the Sea, In the Heart of the Sea, James Spader, Kevin Spacey, Midnight in the Garden of Good and Evil, Boy and Bicycle, Takashi Miike, Woody Allen, Happiness of the Katakuris, Deadwood, Bad Lieutenant, Bride Wars, Barry Lyndon, Singer Sargent, Bad Timing, Mean Streets, Fingers, Taxi Driver, Reservoir Dogs, Joseph Conrad, There Will Be Blood, The Prestige, Nashville, The Long Riders, John Woo, Stanley Kubrick, D.A. Pennebaker, the Maysles Brothers, Sade, Bauhaus, Nicolas Roeg, The Man Who Fell To Earth, Performance, xXx, Michael Bay, Bob & Carol & Ted & Alice, Alan Parker, The Wall, Angel Heart, Henry Rollins, Columbo, Blood Simple, To Live and Die In LA, The Loveless, Near Dark, Night Gallery, Alien Vs Predator, Quentin Tarantino, Robert Deniro, Andrew Dice Clay, The Adventures of Ford Fairlane, Russell Mulcahy, Blue Jasmine, Armageddon, Adrian Lyne, Terrence Malick, John Wayne Gacy, Sunshine, Kristen Wiig on SNL, Marco Polo, Kenny Loggins, Daniel Tiger, Raiders of the Lost Ark, Predator, The Texas Chainsaw Massacre, Exit Wounds, Michael Jai White, DMX, Steven Seagal, Tom Arnold, Anthony Anderson, Brett Ratner, Audition, Shadow of a Doubt, Wait Until Dark, Paul Thomas Anderson, Aliens, Star Wars, Trauma, Tom Savini, Dario Argento, No Country For Old Men, All the Pretty Horses, Shame, The Long Tomorrow, The Big Sleep, William Faulkner, Tom Cruise, Daniel Craig, Layer Cake, Paycheck, Vanilla, Sky, Steve McQueen, The Getaway, Keanu Reeves, A Most Violent Year, Breaking Bad, The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo, Das Boot, The Cotton Club, Francis Ford Coppola, George Lucas, Steven Soderbergh, Walter Murch's edit of Touch of Evil, Blood Meridian, Moon, HR Giger, Moebius, Ron Cobb, Ingmar Bergman, Luis Bunuel, The Seventh Seal, James Cameron, Dune, Alien 3, Neil Blomkamp, Pacific Rim, 2001 A Space Odyssey, Wally Wood, Short Circuit 2, Chris Cunningham, Sylvester Stallone, Paul Schrader, Rolling Thunder, Inside Llewyn Davis, Fight Club, Monty Python, Show Me A Hero, The Wire, Treme, Steve Zahn, Sicario, Fargo, Justified, Our Brand Is Crisis, Jackie Chan, Thunderbolt, Chinatown, The Terror, J. Edgar, Nashville, The Americans, Talladega Nights: The Legend of Ricky Bobby, Cross of Iron, Tone Loc, Without Limits, Friend of the show Abhay Khosla talking Tony Scott, Oliver and Company, Lethal Weapon, Always Sunny does Lethal Weapon, Richard Donner, Richard Lester, St. Elmos Fire, The Island, Hot Fuzz, Burn After Reading, Django Unchained, Le Mans, Henry Portrait of a Serial Killer, Dead Calm, Malice, BMX Bandits, John Romita Jr., The Karate Kid, Transformers 4, Goodfellas, Big, The French Connection, Norman Rockwell, Silence of the Lambs, Silver Surfer, Modesty Blaise, Krazy Kat, Run Silent Run Deep, Apocalypse Now, Bourne Supremacy, Aphex Twin, Nine Inch Nails, Walton Goggins in Bourne Identity, United 93, The Conversation, Person of Interest, 24, Numbers, Heat, Mission Impossible, Woodlawn, Ali, Signs, Scarface, Game of Thrones, John Wick, Sergio Corbucci, Virtuosity, The Insider, Romper Stomper, Jax from Mortal Kombat, Traci Lords, Throwing Copper, The Long Kiss Goodnight, The Piano, Johnny Suede, Cool World, Career Opportunities, Jennifer Connelly, Jennifer Garner, Timothy Dalton, The Rocketeer, David Lee Roth, Akira, Wolverine, The Yakuza, Crazy Thunder Road, The November Man, The Cell, Labyrinth, The Dark Crystal, Cecil Taylor, Southland Tales, Grand Theft Auto, and Kenneth Branagh.   Music Delphine Seyrig's introduction of Mr. Freedom. Ladies and Gentlemen, you've been living like pigs. The Simpsons singing "A Chorus Line" from Treehouse of Horror V. Jerry Goldsmith - music from the 2nd Alien trailer. Jamie Lee Curtis - "Prison Introduction" from Escape From New York (our intro, as always). Bauhaus - "Bela Lugosi's Dead (original single mix)" from The Hunger. Hans Zimmer - "The Steel Plant - part 1" from Black Rain. Tangerine Dream - "Unicorn Theme" from Legend. Hans Zimmer - "Main Title" from Days of Thunder. The Spencer Davis Group - "Gimme Some Lovin" from Days of Thunder. David Bowie - "Starman" from The Martian  COMING UP IN PART TWO: Please come back this Friday to hear part 2 of our Ridley Vs. Tony Halloween special with special guests Ignatiy Vishnevetsky, Sloane Leong, Graeme McMillan, and Jeff Lester. 

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  • 134: Let’s Do This! with Michael Breed

    · The 18STRONG Podcast: Golf | Golf Fitness | Mental

    Today I am very excited to announce our guest, Michael Breed.  Michael is one of the biggest personalities in the world of golf today!  Between his primetime show on the Golf Channel (The Golf Fix), and his Sirius XM PGA Tour Radio show (A New Breed of Golf), Michael is one of the most influential instructors in the world, helping millions of people with their game. Being that this is Masters week, I asked Michael to share some of his memories from his days as an Assitant Pro at Augusta National and his time working at the Masters Tournament.  Along with his stories, Michael shares some incredible advice on how he got to where he is and how others listening to the show can do the same with a few simple principles that he has employed over his lifetime in golf. Michael Breed’s Background In 2008, Breed became the host for The Golf Fix, an instructional television show aimed at fixing the common errors in both course management and swings from amateurs, which continues to be one of the most popular shows on the Golf Channel. Michael also hosts a radio show on Sirius XM PGA Tour Radio called A New Breed of Golfers. In 2003, he was selected as a Top 100 Instructor in America by Golf Magazine. In 2011, he was voted one of the Top 50 Instructors in America by Golf Digest (now 13th on this list, and #1 in the state of New York.). In 2012, Michael was chosen as the PGA's National Teacher of the Year. He has also been a part of the broadcast team for Golf Channel's coverage of the Nationwide Tour and PGA Tour serving as an on course commentator, since 1999, and serves as the analyst for PGA.com in its coverage of the PGA Championship, PGA Professional National Championship, and the Ryder Cup. Michael teaches at the Trump Golf Links at Ferry Point Highlights from this Episode Michael’s background, and how he originally got started in the world of golf, and eventually teaching. We talk about the most influential people in Michael’s career, in regards to golf, teaching, media, and otherwise. Michael views every situation as a learning opportunity. Michael’s take on ‘thinking’ and how it plays into golf. He believes that Tiger Woods was one of the greatest golfers to ever live, because he thought well. A few of Michael’s favorite memories from working at the US Masters during tournament time. We talk about some of Michael’s favorites and long shots for the upcoming tournament at Augusta National. There are some common picks, and some outsiders who Michael thinks have a chance of doing well. How Michael handles criticism and negative feedback. Caddy Shack or Happy Gilmore? Caddy Shack Who would you like to spend a day on the course with, and where? My father at Augusta National What would be your "walk-up song" to the tee? Bruce Springsteen – She’s the One Luther Vandros - She Loves Me Back What has you most excited moving into 2017? The fact that rounds of golf across the country are up 5%, and in the south, rounds are up 15%. People are playing more golf! Where to find Michael Breed: Website: https://michaelbreed.com/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/MichaelBreed Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/MichaelBreedGolf/ Episode Sponsor: SuperSpeed Golf   18STRONG Resources Get a copy of Jeff’s Best-Selling Book: “The Golfer’s Guide to a Bogey Proof Workout” Get your very own 18STRONG t-shirt Check out the 18STRONG Complete At Home Warm-Up Video and Cheat Sheet Check out the 18STRONG Flexibility Guide Check out the 18STRONG e-Book and Video Series: 5 Yards in Less Than 5 Minutes Connect with 18STRONG 18STRONG’s Facebook Page 18STRONG’s Twitter Profile 18STRONG’s Instagram Profile Join The 18STRONG Movement!

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  • 62: The Ministry of the Holy Spirit and the Gift of Prophesy with Michael Miller

    · 00:47:21 · Are You Real | Finding Your Purpose | Discover Your Talents | Christianity | Christian | Believer | Faith | Christ Follower

    Do you ever feel like you aren't good enough to be loved? God loves you. Today’s special guest, Michael Miller, struggled with feeling rejected when he was younger, but, by the grace of God, he got through that and is now prophetic ministries pastor. Tune into today’s episode to learn more about Michael Miller and his amazing journey. Michael Miller and his wife Sara reside in Denver, Colorado.  After graduating from Texas A&M he worked for a para-church ministry called Young Life.  It was during that time he developed a friendship with Professor Jack Deere, author of Surprised by the Power of the Holy Spirit.  Michael then went to work for Jack at Wellspring Church in North Richland Hills, Texas, where he ran the healing ministry and travelled with Jack to minister to varying churches.  In 2010, Michael was blessed by Jack and the Wellspring elders to do several church plants/prayer rooms with Freeland Ministries now known as The Upper Room. He is currently pastoring at the Upper Room Denver and regularly speaks, trains, and ministers in churches both locally and abroad.   What you'll hear in this episode: A little bit about Michael Miller What early ministry was like for Michael Struggles Michael faced in his early ministry days How Michael knew this is what he was called for Dark seasons in Michael’s ministry Problems Michael had with relationships How to overcome relationship struggles Michaels biggest strengths and weaknesses What Michael is currently working on What Michael would tell his younger self   Resources: Are You Real The God-Shaped Brain by Timothy R. Jennings Supernatural by Michael S. Heiser The Unseen Realm by Michael S. Heiser Thomas Ministries

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  • 20 VC 073: Life Inside Accel Partners with Michael Treskow @ Accel

    · The Twenty Minute VC: Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch

    Michael Treskow is a VC @ Accel Partners, one of the world's most successful venture firms having funded the likes of Facebook, Dropbox, Spotify, Etsy and many more.  At Accel, Michael is responsible for the firm’s investments in SpaceApe, a mobile games developer, and GoCardless, an online direct debt provider. Michael was also instrumental in Accel's investments and ongoing work with Funding Circle, Packlink, Qubit, Semmle, Trufa and WorldRemit. Prior to Accel, Michael focused on early-stage investments in technology companies at Warburg Pincus in San Francisco, invested in publicly traded technology companies at Highside Capital, and helped advise technology companies as part of Morgan Stanley's investment banking team in New York. In Today's Episode You Will Learn: 1.) How Michael made his way into the VC industry? Do you think it is very important for VCs to have entrepreneurial experience? 2.) How does Michael compare the investing environments between London and SF? What was his biggest takeaway from Warburg Pincus in SF? 3.) Accel is stage agnostic, why is that? What size market attracts Michael? How can Michael tell whether founders have the ability to exploit the market? 4.) What Michael believes are his key value adds? Have these changed over time? 5.) We often hear startups being described as ‘uber for’, ‘tinder for’. Do VCs like this simplification of business? How else would Michael suggest a complex concept can be broken down into something easily digestible? 6.) Does Michael still believe there is room for improvement in the consumerisation of enterprise software? Does Emergence Capital's pivot signal a turning tide? Items Mentioned In Todays Episode:  Michael's Fave Book: The Innovator's Dilemma, Crossing The Chasm Michael Productivity Tools: Wunderlist Michael's Fave Blog or Newsletter: Dan Primack, Term Sheet Michael' Most Recent Investment: CartoDB As always you can follow Harry, The Twenty Minute VC and Michael on Twitter here! If you would like to see a more colourful side to Harry with many a mojito night, you can follow him on Instagram here!  

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  • 417 - Michael Dohlen - Sidepreneur: Unternehmer als Nebenjob

    · TomsTalkTime - DER Erfolgspodcast mit Tom Kaules

    Michael ist leitender Angestellter in einer Digital Agentur in Düsseldorf und lebt seine Unternehmer-Leidenschaft nebenberuflich in verschiedenen Online-Projekten aus. Für Michael ist das größte Hobby das Experimentieren mit digitalen Geschäftsmodellen. Abseits des Unternehmertums liebt Michael Fußball, den SVW, zu Reisen und Zeit mit seiner Familie und Freunden zu verbringen. Seine Eltern wissen nicht genau, woher die Begeisterung und Leidenschaft fürs Unternehmertum kommt, doch Michael kann sich an ein prägendes Erlebnis aus seiner Kindheit erinnern. Als ein lauter Porsche an ihm vorbei fuhr und ihn faszinierte, fragte er seine nebenstehende Tante, was man denn werden müsse, um solch ein Auto fahren zu können. Diese sagte ihm: „Michael, dafür musst du am besten Unternehmer werden“. Seine Mutter verstand das eher als „Flausen in den Kopf setzen“, doch bei Michael war der Funke übergesprungen. So begann er schon während der Schulzeit auf dem Pausenhof Dinge an seine Mitschüler zu verkaufen und auch neben dem Abitur und Studium verdiente Michael erstes Geld durch den Verkauf von selbst produzierten Produkten wie Vogelvolieren oder auch digitalen Produkten wie Bauanleitungen für einen Pokertisch. Nach dem Studium verschlug es Michael in die Startup-Szene und in Inkubatoren auf der ganzen Welt. In Hamburg baute Michael ein Startup im Couponing Bereich für verschiedene Emerging Markets mit auf, in den USA wurden Studenten bei der Gründung von Unternehmen beraten und in Asien leitete Michael den Aufbau eines MyTaxi-Clons für den asiatischen Markt. Zwei eigene Startup-Versuche lieferten anschließend leider nicht den erhofften Erfolg, so dass Michael seine Karriere als Angestellter startete. Doch eine vorhandene Leidenschaft geht nicht verloren. So setzt Michael heute verschiedene Online-Projekte nebenberuflich um und verdient ein nettes Zusatzeinkommen mit dieser Form der Selbstständigkeit, ohne volles Risiko gehen zu müssen. Im April 2015 startete Michael die Sidepreneur-Plattform und Community, die Angestellte über die nebenberufliche Selbstständigkeit informieren sollen und diese untereinander vernetzt. Mittlerweile erreicht der Blog mehrere Tausend Unternehmer monatlich und der Podcast erreichte schon verschiedene Top-Rankings im Bereich Wirtschaft sowie Karriere. Sein neustes Projekt, welches ebenfalls nebenberuflich aufgebaut wird und noch in 2015 in einer Beta-Phase startet, trägt den Namen MastermindGroups.de. Michael lernte bereits während seiner Zeit in den USA die Kraft solcher Gruppen von Gleichgesinnten kennen und erhält mittlerweile immer mehr Nachfragen, wie man eine solche Gruppe finden oder gründen kann. Zu diesem Zweck werden ein Vermittlungs-Service und eine umgebene Community aufgebaut, die gemeinsam am Erfolg und Wachstum der Unternehmer mitwirkt. Michael wird auch in Zukunft immer wieder mit digitalen Geschäftsmodellen experimentieren, viele Projekte starten und weitere Online-Unternehmer sowie Startups auf ihrem Weg als Berater und Unterstützer begleiten. Dein Pitch:  Mein Name ist Michael Dohlen. Ich bin Sidepreneur, d.h. ich habe einen tollen Vollzeitjob in einer Düsseldorfer Digital Agentur und bin nebenberuflich selbstständig mit versch. Online-Projekten. Dein schlimmster Moment als Unternehmer?  Bei meinem 2. Startup-Versuch, bei dem ich eine Mobile App im Bereich des "Second Screens" versuchte an den markt zu bringen. Ich setzte alles auf diese eine Karte, lebte ohne eigenes Gehalt von Erspartem und habe sogar ein paar Schulden gemacht um meinen Partner und Programmierer ein kleines Gehalt bezahlen zu können. Leider ließ mich der Partner und Programmierer mit einem nur 70%-fertigem Produkt über Nacht sitzen, um eine Vollzeitstelle anzunehmen. Ich stand ich vor einem Scherbenhaufen Deine Lieblings-Internet-Ressource?  Wordpress Für mich ist dieses das vielfältigste und mächtigste Tool, um online ein Business aufzubauen Link zur Ressource:  https://wordpress.com/ Buchtitel 1:  Rich Dad Poor Dad: Was die Reichen ihren Kindern über Geld beibringen, Robert T. Kiyosaki   Kontaktdaten des Interviewpartners:  Meine Webseite: http://www.sidepreneur.de und für jeden, der sich für mein neues Projekt MastermindGroups interessiert: http://mastermindgroups.de +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++   Mehr Freiheit, mehr Geld und mehr Spaß mit DEINEM eigenen Podcast. Erfahre jetzt, warum es auch für Dich Sinn macht, Deinen eigenen Podcast zu starten. Jetzt hier zum kostenlosen Podcast-Workshop anmelden: Podcastkurs.com   +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

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  • 310: Michael O'Neal | Solopreneur Hour

    · The Art of Charm | Confidence | Relationship & Dat

    "You've got to take imperfect action. You literally have to start. It doesn't matter if it's not perfect. It doesn't matter if it crashes and burns."  - Michael O'Neal The Cheat Sheet: Why he decided to stop trading time for dollars. (15:10) The business takeaway from the fake orgasm scene in When Harry Met Sally. (26:00) Why it's important to say "yes" and the lesson he learned from doing so. (42:20) Why you can't teach hustle. (47:40) His near-death experience 10 days before he launched his show and why he still launched. (48:40) What separates the haves from the never will be people? (52:00) And so much more... There are times in our lives when we face a challenge, an adversity so daunting we can only cope by going into survival mode. But with time, patience, the right attitude and the proper support, we can take those experiences and propel ourselves into lives we never even dreamed possible. Here to share his own version of this is Michael O'Neal from The Solopreneur Hour podcast. In episode 310, we talk about how the loss of both of his parents in less than a year devastated and altered his life completely, how that experience led to his commitment to never trade time for dollars again, why it's important to say yes and be open and how to get past the fear of creating a new business and lifestyle of your own. Try Squarespace for free and help support The Art of Charm! More About This Show: In the very early days of the Internet, Michael O'Neal was one of those early adapters. He created and designed web sites and made a good living doing it. Eventually he left the office world and became a freelancer working for himself. He was so good at what he did that he was courted by a Fortune 500 company. He didn't need the job but talked to them anyway. After receiving a highly lucrative offer, one that was more than he asked for, he went to work for them. The beginning days were fun: kegs and foosball on Fridays but once the start-up was bought out all of that changed. Soon it was meetings and minutes. Within a year, Michael left with a healthy severance package. About the same time, his father's battle with congestive heart failure took a turn for the worse. Eventually his dad lost that battle and died. Seven months later, Michael's mom passed away from a combination of a broken heart over the loss of her husband and a rare kidney disorder. Losing his father was incredibly sad, but not surprising as he had been battling for 4 years. But the passing of Michael's mom was unexpected and heartbreaking. Emotionally, Michael was devastated. Financially, he was devastated. His parents' illnesses ate up his 401(k), he lost his home, his cars, his savings, all of it. It was a tremendous burden to bear and in his own words, he simply "muddled" through it. It wasn't until he was sitting on the couch of a billionaire friend over a year later that he realized he hadn't mourned. He was simply in survival mode. His friend's acknowledgment of this gave him the space to grieve. Soon he set off on a journey to take his parents' ashes to Europe and give them the trip he had always wanted to give them when they were alive. For four months he traveled and lived in Italy, Belgium, France among other places. And when he returned to the States, he was still dead broke but he was sure of one thing: never again would he be tied to a job or to clients to make a living. He read a series of books, which he now calls the Sexy Six, that opened his eyes to a new way of living and doing business. He found a network marketing company he believed in, a company that became a new family for him and he quickly built a successful business with them through his own proven social media tactics. From that success, he developed a course on social media to teach other network marketers and solopreneurs how to do the same. That course led to a gig producing the popular podcast, The Kick-Ass Life with David Wood. And that podcast led to Michael's own show, The Solopreneur Hour. Today he is the head honcho at The Solopreneur Hour, a podcast that produces a six-figure income for him and has grown to over 1.5 million downloads in its first year.  On the show, he interviews successful solopreneurs on what they did from the time they became unemployable to their present day success. I've appeared on the show as has Michael Gerber, Pat Flynn, Chris Ducker and numerous others. Michael and I get into tons more valuable content on what it means to be a solopreneur, the steps he recommends someone take to get started and why taking action is so important. He was a great guest and I enjoyed having him on the show, I hope you dig this episode too.  Thanks for listening and we'll see you next time. THANKS MICHAEL! If you enjoyed this session of the Art of Charm Podcast, let Michael know by clicking on the link below and sending him a quick shout out on Twitter: Click here to thank Michael on Twitter! Resources from this episode: Michael's podcastThe Eight Steps To Becoming A Successful SolopreneurMichael on TwitterRich Dad, Poor DadCashflow QuadrantThe 4-Hour Work WeekThe E-Myth RevisitedStrengths Finder 2.0Crush ItWhen Harry Met Sally: The Diner Scene Try Squarespace (free) and support our supporters! You'll also like:-The Art of Charm Toolbox-Best of The Art of Charm Podcast   HELP US SPREAD THE WORD!   If you dug this episode, please subscribe in iTunes and write us a review!  This is what helps us stand out from all the fluff out there.   Ways to subscribe to The Art of Charm   Click here to subscribe via iTunes Click here to subscribe via RSS You can also subscribe via Stitcher   FEEDBACK + PROMOTION   Hit us up with your comments and guest suggestions. We read EVERYTHING.   Download the FREE AoC app for iPhone Email jordanh@theartofcharm.com Give us a call at 888.413.7177   Stay Charming!

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  • Cupping, Urine Drinking, Dream Interpretation, Open Heart Surgery Using Acupuncture As Anesthesia & Much More.

    · 01:27:10 · Ben Greenfield Fitness: Diet, Fat Loss and Performance

    https://bengreenfieldfitness.com/chinesemedicine My guest on today's podcast, Dr. Michael Smith, hails from the First Nations in Canada, grew up on the diet of his indigenous ancestors eating wild organ meats from the animals he hunted and feasting from the wild salmon that he caught. He learned many of the medicine traditions and the "Medicine Wheel" of the First Nations people. He studied Martial Arts and taught Canadian Military self defense techniques, and along the way, his Martial Arts teacher took him aside to say to tell him that he was "more of a healer than a fighter". His teacher then began to teach him the Oral Tradition of Classical Oriental Science, or better known as Traditional Chinese Medicine. Michael is now a huge pillar in the healing community of Nelson, BC. For example, restaurants in the Nelson area will produce a special menu at certain times of year when he holds the event of cleansing season. He's helped with bringing Medical Cannabis dispensaries to the city and produces supplements paired with Cannabis Medicine sold there. You often see him ushering in folks at open public sweat lodge ceremonies with burning of sage. Michael is an author, speaker, professional martial artist, teacher and clinician, and a respected integrative medicine pioneer with over 20 years experience. In his Nelson, British Columbia practice he combines functional medicine and evolutionary nutrition with the ancient wisdom and vast experience of Traditional Chinese medicine. His primary focus in medicine is complex chronic auto-immune diseases (as a patient, Michael had lived with both Crohn’s disease and Ulcerative Colitis for well over 20 years). He is a co-founder of the prestigious Academy of Classical Oriental Sciences, the first five year full time doctorate level training program in TCM in Canada. He is also the primary developer of Neuro-Somatic Therapy, a hands on approach to reducing the way people embody distress, illness and trauma. As a Martial Artist, Michael has been training for almost 40 years. He has had the good fortune to train with some of the highest level teachers in the Western world, including a teacher of the late Bruce Lee. After training prison guards, police officers and members of both military and paramilitary organizations, Michael decided to leave traditional martial arts and develop his own approach to resolving physical violence. He has taught this approach, called Applied Combatives, for over 20 years. During our discussion, you'll discover: -The fascinating ancestral health, Dr. Smith learned while growing up in a hunting lodge with the "Mud Clan" First Nations...[9:55] -How Michael got Crohn’s disease and Ulcerative Colitis that lasted for well over 20 years, and how he fixed himself...[14:40] -What your body is telling you if you can see vegetables in your poop...[18:00] -Michael's mouthwatering "ancestral" recipe for salmon rillette roulade...[21:30] -Why Michael believes you should drink one liter of water within the first two hours upon waking...[25:45] -The fascinating concept of gently "blowing" on your water before you drink it...[29:45] -How Michael developed something called "neurosomatic therapy", and why some people go into a fit of rage after having it done...[42:40] -How Michael implements blood letting, needling and cupping in his practice...[48:50] -The shocking way that acupuncture has been used during open heart surgery for anesthesia...[56:05] -Michael's thoughts on dream interpretation (e.g. associating teeth falling out in dreams as deficiency of Kidney Qi)...[59:15] -Whether drinking your own urine is really a component of Chinese medicine...[67:20] -How pulse diagnosis and tongue diagnosis work? [72:45] -And much more... Resources from this episode: -Michael's website: Integrative Health Solutions -Michael's podcast: Fusion Health Radio -Michael's book: Returning To An Ancestral Diet -Video of open heart surgery using acupuncture as anesthesia -More about The Medicine Wheel -Integrative Neurosomatic Therapy video -More about "pulse diagnosis" -The Heart Of Listening: A Visionary Approach to Craniosacral Work, Vol. 1: Origins, Destination Points, Unfoldment -NCCAOM website for finding local Chinese medical practitioner -Functional Medicine Practitioner directory -Medicine Wheeling - Native Wisdom for Healthy Relationships -The Four Worlds, Evolutionary Medicine and You Do you have questions, thoughts or feedback for Michael or me? Leave your comments at BenGreenfieldFitness.com and one of us will reply!

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  • 18SP 017: Michael Manavian | Hormones, Bodybuilding, and Golf Instruction

    · The 18STRONG Podcast: Golf | Golf Fitness | Mental

    Michael Manavian is not your typical Teaching Pro.  He is also a nutrition consultant and former world class bodybuilder.  He has found a way to utilize his experience in all of these arenas in one of the most state of the art golf facilities in the US. As a partner at Greenwich Diagnostics Sports Lab, Michael works with world class golfers not only on their swing, but on nutrition down to the cellular level, literally. In this episode we discuss the role of hormones on your health and golf game, as well as a few quick dietary fixes to get you on the right track.  We also go into Michael's history as a bodybuilder and how that has helped shape the way he approaches not only the physical aspect of his golfers, but the mental side, too. You Can Subscribe to the 18STRONG Podcast on iTunes by clicking the button below:   Michael's Background From Watertown Massachusetts Graduated from Methodist University  Started teaching golf lessons Then took a year off to play professional golf At 128lbs. he decided he needed to start working on the body and got into Body building and started working with Steve Michalik (Mr. USA/Mr. Universe) Did over 20 bodybuilding shows, then got into training and supplement development Got back into teaching golf a few years ago Met Ali Gilbert and Dr. Steven Murphy, who are now his partners in Greenwich Diagnostics Sports Lab Opened up 2 more locations at the Clay Institute and Rebar Fitness What Does Greenwich Diagnostics Sports Lab do? Hormone Testing Nutrition consultations Fitness testing and training Primarily work with Golfers Highlights from this Episode Worked with Rob Labritz in 2010 who went on to be the low pro at the PGA Championship Michael REQUIRES all client to submit a 3 day food log Most people aren't eating enough protein (1gram per 1lb. of body weight) are eating too many carbs (1gram per .75lbs of body weight) not enough good fats (1 gram per .5lbs of body weight) Michael views weight training as mental toughness training I don't think you can OVERTRAIN, I think you can UNDER-RECUPERATE Your training and recovery need to be proportionate with each other. You can't train 5 days a week, get little sleep, have bad nutrition habits and expect to get results Recovery has a lot to do with food, and even hormones Michael explains several different hormones and their role in our body's function Discusses the Steroid Cascade or Cholesterol Cascade Stop eating Soy, stop eating things that come in bags and plastic bottles, and stop eating CRAP! High fructose corn syrup is one of the worst products known to man. Michael wrote a book with his bodybuilding coach/mentor Steve Michalik: Atomic Golf Michael's bodybuilding consisted of a training program known as Intensity-Insanity developed by Steve Michalik He discusses his training method and how that relates to his golfers and golf instruction What is Michael Excited about these days? Invited by the golf Channel for a casting call for a new golf fitness show The GEARS Golf 3D system that they are using at the Lab. Parting Piece of Advice Michael makes note of the fact that their main objective is to optimize people health and enjoyment level so they can continue to play and thus the game of golf grows even more. Where to Find Michael Clinic Websites: Greenwich Diagnostics Sports Lab Clay Diagnostics Sports Lab Facebook: Michael Manavian Greenwich Diagnostics Clay Diagnostics Twitter: @Manavian Other Links in this Episode: Atomic Golf The post 18SP 017: Michael Manavian | Hormones,

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  • 024 Michael Franzese | Godfather to "God The Father"

    · Eternal Leadership

    Learn more about Michael Franzese Schedule a screening of this incredible movie THIS IS A TRUE STORY ABOUT MAFIA, MONEY, LOVE, LOYALTY AND GOD ... I first met Michael Franzese through Pinnacle Forum where he is a partner with me.  His story of redemption and forgiveness is one of the most powerful I have ever heard, and will give you renewed hope in the One who came to give life, and give it more abundantly!   Michael's story is now a major motion picture that is a must see! God The Father...takes us on the untold personal journey of Michael Franzese, a young and charismatic Capo in the Colombo Crime family during the 1980‘s-90‘s and whose notorious father, Sonny Franzese was also a renowned Underboss. Following in his father’s footsteps in the mid-1980s, Fortune Magazine named Franzese as number #18 on its list of the "Fifty Most Wealthy and Powerful Mafia Bosses". According to a Federal report, Franzese made more money for a crime family than anyone since Chicago Outfit boss, Al Capone.  A revelation that Michael’s own father went along with a contract hit on his life; Michael’s love for his wife and children; and the realization his own life was heading the same way as every other mob guy that came before him...straight to ST. JOHNS Cemetery in NYC, Michael took the decision to leave the ‘Life’. An act previously thought impossible...Michael Franzese publicly walked away from the Colombo family and organized crime. During his time in prison, Michael discovered the Bible. Devouring its contents, Michael found parallels between the Good Book’s teachings and his experiences in the ‘Life’ which translated into Michael developing his own unique religious perspective and faith. It is a faith that is directly responsible for his still being alive today. God The Father...utilizes every cinematic ingredient available to tell Michael Franzese’s remarkable journey from a ‘made man’ to a man of God. From choreographed dance sequences, traditional interviews, stock footage, visceral re-enactments and sophisticated animation sequences...specifically designed to show the more violent aspects of mob life, in a subtle and intelligent way. This film is the first time the Michael Franzese story has ever been told cinematically and with such originality and power. Resources Learn more about Michael Franzese Schedule a screening of this incredible movie

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  • Blogging Success: How to Create Content People Love

    · 00:33:24 · Social Media Marketing Podcast helps your business thrive with social media

    Do you want to drive more traffic to your website?Would you like to create content that people would go crazy for?To learn the secrets of attention-grabbing blog posts that generate traffic, I interview Michael Hyatt for this episode of the Social Media Marketing podcast.More About This ShowThe Social Media Marketing podcast is a show from Social Media Examiner.It's designed to help busy marketers and business owners discover what works with social media marketing.The show format is on-demand talk radio (also known as podcasting).In this episode, I interview Michael Hyatt, author of Platform: Get Noticed in a Noisy World, former CEO of Thomas Nelson Publishers, and the host of the This Is Your Life podcast.Michael shares his experiences as a successful blogger and content creator.You'll learn why headlines and photos are the most attention-grabbing aspects of your articles.Share your feedback, read the show notes and get the links mentioned in this episode below!Listen NowYou can also subscribe via iTunes, RSS, or Stitcher.Here are some of the things you'll discover in this show:Content CreationMichael tells the story of when he first started blogging in 2004. He was the CEO at Thomas Nelson and saw blogging as a means to communicate with his own employees. It was a way to be innovative, rather than sending out standard email newsletters.It wasn't until someone suggested opening it up to the public that he thought it was a cool idea and maybe could become an archive for his best thinking.Listen to the show to hear about Michael's blogging schedule when he first started.What evergreen content brings to your websiteMichael's blog today averages around 300-400 blog comments a day. Michael explains that about half of his traffic comes from older posts. These include posts that he wrote 2-3 years ago that still get a huge amount of comments today.Michael shares how he promotes his older posts. One of the tactics he uses is to bulk upload and schedule tweets in SocialOomph for older articles such as this one:Our words carry enormous weight. More than we sometimes think. "How Our Words Impact Others." mhyatt.us/gIC8Vn— Michael Hyatt (@MichaelHyatt) November 18, 2012 Michael had the idea from when he was working in the book publishing world. Publishers have two types of books: new books (newly published or yet to be released) and a backlist (an archive of content). For large publishing companies such as Thomas Nelson, 50-60% of their revenue can come from their backlist.Most bloggers don't have a strategy for this. They write it, it disappears and then it's gone forever.Listen to the show to find out Michael's secret for keeping his older blog posts up to date and continuing to drive more traffic.How to write killer blog postsOver time Michael has written about 1,400 posts. You'll learn how he tries to start from the reader's perspective and frame everything in terms of his or her needs. Somebody once said, "People are tuned into WIIFM (Whats In It For Me)."You have to write from this particular viewpoint if you're going to be successful. Look at what other people's hopes, fears, frustrations and obstacles are. And don't assume that everybody knows what you know.Michael talks about how a lot of his how-to articles stem from what he needs to find out and then he documents the process for his readers. These articles bring him a ton of traffic every day.Listen to the show to learn why the how-to articles have been the most successful for Michael.Topics to write aboutMichael explains how he uses "intentional leadership" as a filter for content on his website. He shares how he might look at a current event and reframe it into a leadership lesson.You'll also learn how to decide what to publish on your site and how to stay focused on being good at what you do.Listen to the show to find out why giving away you...

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  • 20VC: Michael Dearing on 5 Key Principles He Uses To Assess Startup Founders, Why Benevolent Dictatorship Is A Beautiful Thing & Why Markets Are Better Capital Allocators Than CEOs

    · 00:27:26 · The Twenty Minute VC: Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch

    Michael Dearing has established himself as an icon of early-stage venture over the last decade. With his founding of Harrison Metal in 2006, he has backed the likes of Twitter, MoPub, Birchbox, 99Designs and PagerDuty just to name a few of his incredible companies. Prior to being in VC, Michael spent 6 years at eBay across numerous roles and before that held positions at Shoe Warehouse as CEO, The Walt Disney Company in corporate strategy and then Bain & Co as a consultant. In Today’s Episode You Will Learn: 1.) How Michael made his way into the world of venture from selling shoes with Shoe Warehouse to eBay to founding his own fund? 2.) Michael has said before that he looks for "personal exceptionalism" within the teams he backs, what does that really mean? How does he distinguish brilliance from arrogance? What is the balance between vision and stubbornness? 3.) How does Michael think about price sensitivity? How does he use it as a determining factor to test his level of conviction in the deal? More broadly, how does Michael view pricing in the market today? Why are the convertible debt markets so toxic? 4.) How does Michael view strategy around reserve allocation? Why does Michael believe reserves are where he has made the biggest mistakes? What are his takeaways from those mistakes? Why does recycling not feature as a core tenet of his strategy? 5.) Why does Michael believe that "benevolent dictatorship" is a beautiful thing? Does this thesis change in the debate over founder vs company first? How does Michael use McCallum's 5 key principles to assess founders and their ability? Items Mentioned In Today’s Show: Michael’s Fave Book: Confederacy of Dunces Michael’s Most Recent Investment: Astro As always you can follow Harry, The Twenty Minute VC and Michael on Twitter here! Likewise, you can follow Harry on Snapchat here for mojito madness and all things 20VC. Lattice is the #1 performance management solution for growing companies. With Lattice, it’s easy to launch 360 performance review cycles as often as you want. And you also get a continuous feedback system with OKR goal tracking, real-time feedback, and 1-on-1 meetings to make sure employees get feedback between reviews. Find out why the likes of CoinBase, PlanGrid, Birchbox and WePay trust Lattice as their performance management solution by heading over to lattice.com to start investing in your people. That’s Lattice.com. Recurly, the company powering subscription success, with Recurly’s enterprise-class subscription management platform providing rapid time-to-value without requiring massive integration effort and expense and they have the ability to not only increase revenue by 7% but also reduce the all-important churn rate. That is why thousands of customers from Twitch to HubSpot to CBS Interactive trust Recurly as their subscription management platform. Check them out on recurly.com that really is a must.

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  • Michael Joseph | The Occult Religion of the Elite & Its Influence - The Higherside Chats | Conspiracy and Paranormal Podcast

    · The Higherside Chats | Conspiracy and Paranormal Podcast

    Join host, Greg Carlwood, of The Higherside Chats podcast as he talks the occult religion of the elite and it's influence with guest, Michael Joseph.While we are all aware, to fully grasp the intricate, and detailed web of deceit woven by the elite, one must dedicate a lifetime of study to topics such as astrology, philosophy, Gnosticism and Freemasonry. And while we may not have the time to pour over primary texts, and scour through source material, the hidden motivations and secret doctrines of the elite are buried within this vast array of information.Today's guest, Michael Joseph, has dedicated countless hours combing through archives, compiling his findings into an impressive portfolio, and using it to enlighten others about the fundamental principles and veiled tenets of the elite.2:55 Greg begins by discussing the transitions of life that set Michael on a tireless quest for knowledge. From his humble beginnings in astrology and an enlightening experience surrounding the Boston bombing, to the invaluable awakening after the events of 9/11, Joseph lays the foundation for what facilitated his research and investigation into the elite's manipulation of reality through esoteric and exoteric symbolism.9:00 After digesting a ton of dense material, Michael produced his own Occult Science Series, which he appropriately deemed "an exploration of the hidden religions of world organizations". Greg and Michael reflect on whether the belief systems of the elite are extracted from one particular school of thought, or if they are more of an amalgamation of several ancient doctrines. Michael explains how exoteric, or outer religions can hold esoteric, or inner truths about the primitive religion of the cosmos. They also discuss the effects of entrenched academics such as Neil deGrasse Tyson and Carl Sagan and their role in teaching the mystery religion.15:42 After touching on the idea that perhaps the profane masses are attacking the visible problem, rather than the hidden one, Greg and Michael discuss in greater detail, the idea that Abrahamic religions may in fact worship a negative entity such as the Demiurge. They also discuss the role of the Vatican in science and constructing the Atheist paradigm, the dualism of science and religion, and the occult perspective on this school of thought. Michael also breaks down his thoughts on the esoteric and exoteric functions of the Vatican.22:30 To stay the course, Greg and Michael continue their discussion on how Abrahamic religions are deceiving the masses by having them worship a materialist god. They also examine the role of the sacrificial, light-bearing, Lucifer- Prometheus archetype, the significance of it, and it's adoption by the elite. Michael offers insight into the complex reasons the literature of the elite implies their righteousness, but their outward actions suggest something more nefarious.30:45 While we may never really know the true intentions of the elite, and whether their role is complicatedly good or overtly evil, we can confirm that their secrets are well guarded. Greg and Michael discuss the Hidden Hand Dialogue, an inside account of Illuminati secrets, the possibility of an altruistic sacrifice preserving the freewill of the people, and the cosmic agreement of the elite. They also examine the perspective that America's Freemason founders were attempting the noble act of ushering in enlightenment by trying to "restore Atlantis".37:00 Greg and Michael discuss his 9/11 ritual analysis, the symbolism of the collapsing dual towers and the significance behind the new single unified Freedom Tower.43:00 While the debate of the elite's motives behind 9/11 rages on, and the effects and depths of this illusionary trauma may be contested, the obvious connection of Saturn to these events is inarguable. Greg and Michael discuss the elite's attempts alchemically elevate the black cube of Saturn, rather than worship it.

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  • 20VC: Why Valuation Is A Stupid Concept, VC Is Ripe For Disruption & Not All LPs Are Made Equal with Michael Skok, Founding Partner @ Underscore VC

    · The Twenty Minute VC: Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch

    Michael Skok is a Founding Partner @ Underscore VC. Michael started his first software business as a teenager, spent 21 years as an entrepreneur where he founded and recruited teams that attracted over $100m in private equity for investments in multiple software companies. Over the last 13 years as a venture investor. Along the way, he also mentored and taught for 4 years at Harvard as an EIR at Harvard Business School, and spent a year interviewing entrepreneurs on a “listening tour” before founding _Underscore.VC. Michael also started the most incredible education series, 'Startup Secrets', in collaboration with Harvard iLab, check it out here.   In Today’s Episode You Will Learn: 1.) How Michael made his way into the wonderful world of VC with Underscore? 2.) From Michael's listening tour, what did he discover that entrepreneurs wanted in an investor? 3.) How did Michael present the innovative model of Underscore to prospective LPs? What was their response? What did Michael look for in the LPs he selected? 4.) What does Michael mean when he says you have to create minimum viable segments? 5.) How does Michael view market creation? What his framework for this? Items Mentioned In Today’s Show: Michael’s Fave Book: Daemon Michael's Fave Blog: Mattermark Michael’s Most Recent Investment: Mautic As always you can follow Harry, The Twenty Minute VC and Michael on Twitter here! Likewise, you can follow Harry on Snapchat here for mojito madness and all things 20VC. Eve make 1 perfect mattress – made with 3 layer technology and next generation memory foam. It comes packaged in a beautiful box and arrives the day after you order. You get 100 nights to try it with free return pick-up – it really is the perfect mattress for everyone. Just go online to evemattress.co.ukand enter the code 20VC for £50 off. Everybody deserves the perfect start with Eve. Cooley are the global law firm built around startups and venture capital.  Since forming the first venture fund in Silicon Valley, Cooley has formed more venture capital funds than any other law firm in the world, with 50+ years working with VCs. They help VCs form and manage funds, make investments and handle the myriad issues that arise through a fund’s lifetime. So to learn more about the #1 most active law firm representing VC-backed companies going public. Head over to cooley.com and also atcooleygo.com.

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