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  • Episode 57 So Long For Now

    The Citizen Detective team is wrapping the show for now. We hope we have been able to help in making more people aware of some of the cases we discussed. It's been our honor to have on some of the family members of the victims, as well as the various experts who have assited us in our quest for answers. You'll hear in thie episode what everyone will be up to and where to find them. Be sure to stay subscribed to this show as we may have new content on it in the future. Also, be sure to follow our homepage and social media for news and updates. Thanks to all of our listeners; especially those that joined us live as we recorded to share their thoughts, and theories. Tuesday nights won't be the same without you. Aloha.

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    The Citizen Detective team includes:
    Co-Hosts- Mike Morford, Alex Ralph, and Dr. Lee Mellor
    Writing and Research- Alex Ralph
    Technical Producer- Andrew Gray
    Production Assistant- Ashley Monroe
    Suzanna Ryan- DNA Expert
    Cloyd Steiger- Retired Seattle PD Homicide Detective

  • Episode 56 The Pennsylvania Head

    On December 12, 2014, a teenager in Economy Borough, PA in Beaver County, made a shocking discovery as he walked in the woods along Mason Road. What he found turned out to be an embalmed human head of a woman. The discovery shocked local police who weren't used to that kind of crime happening in their jurisdiction. Attempts to ID the head proved fruitless despite a lot of publicity, casts, and drawings being made of the head. Police wondered if a grave someplace had been robbed, or if the head had come from a funeral home someplace. There were few clues to work with other than the cuts made to the head, the eyeholes which contained rubber balls, and the dental work which proved the woman had been alive after the 1980's to 1990's. Even attempts to obtain DNA from the head came up empty. In an effort to get attention for the case, and ID the woman, investigators enlisted the help of Netflix who featured the case on a 2024 episode of Unsolved Mysteries. In the episode, one potential person who might have some information about the head was featured. He failed multiple polygraphs, and he just happened to live directly across from where the head was discovered. When he died, he took any secrets he may of held about the origin of the head to his grave. Today, the case remains unsolved.

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    Co-Hosts- Mike Morford, Alex Ralph, and Dr. Lee Mellor
    Writing and Research- Alex Ralph
    Technical Producer- Andrew Gray
    Production Assistant- Ashley Monroe
    Suzanna Ryan- DNA Expert
    Cloyd Steiger- Retired Seattle PD Homicide Detective

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  • Episode 55 The Austin Yogurt Shop Murders Part 2

    This is part 2 of our coverage of the Austin Yogurt Shop Murders. If you have not listened to part yet, please stop now and go back and listen to that part first.
    In part 2, we examine all of the potential DNA evidence, and take a closer look at possible suspects in the case.

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    Co-Hosts- Mike Morford, Alex Ralph, and Dr. Lee Mellor
    Writing and Research- Alex Ralph
    Technical Producer- Andrew Gray
    Production Assistant- Ashley Monroe
    Suzanna Ryan- DNA Expert
    Cloyd Steiger- Retired Seattle PD Homicide Detective

  • Episode 54 The Austin Yogurt Shop Murders Part 1

    On December 6, 1991, an unthinkable crime happened in Austin, Texas. As four girls were closing up the ICBY shop at 11pm(I Can't believe it's Yogurt), they were attacked by one or more people. What followed was a terrible quadruple murder in which each girl was shot execution style in the head. The victims were four teenage girls: 13-year-old Amy Ayers, 17-year-old Eliza Thomas, 17-year-old Jennifer Harbison, and Jennifer's 15-year-old sister Sarah
    The crime also included sexual assault, and arson. When firefighters arrived on scene thinking that they were dealing with a burning business, they found the bodies of the four girls inside, and it didn't take long to realize that they didn't die as a result of the flames.

    The murders of the four young girls shocked Austin residents, and they began to wonder if an outsider had come to their city and done the unthinkable, or even more unsettling, could the killer or killers be living amongst them? Police rounded up every customer that they could find that had been in the store that night hoping that they may have important information. From the witnesses who were there that night, an assorted cast of potential suspects was generated. Police worked feverishly to locate and question all of these people. They only found some. Eventually, a group of local teens were focused on, and two were convicted of the crimes following an alleged confession. The convictions were later thrown out, and DNA believed to be from the killer did not match any of the young men suspected in the crime. The case went cold and remains unsolved to this day. However, investigators in this case have worked hard to solve it, and hope that DNA and other evidence may one day ID the real killer, or killers. In part 1 of our coverage, we discuss the crime, and the aftermath, as well as the investigation. In our next segment, we will look at other potential suspects as well as DNA clues.

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    Co-Hosts- Mike Morford, Alex Ralph, and Dr. Lee Mellor
    Writing and Research- Alex Ralph
    Technical Producer- Andrew Gray
    Production Assistant- Ashley Monroe
    Suzanna Ryan- DNA Expert
    Cloyd Steiger- Retired Seattle PD Homicide Detective

  • Episode 53 The Burger Chef Murders Part 2

    This is part 2 of The Burger Chef Murders. If you have not listened to part 1 yet, episode 52, stop now and listen to that part first. In this episode, we wrap up our dive into the 1978 Burger Chef murders in Speedway, Indiana, and look closely at the possible suspects in the case.

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    Co-Hosts- Mike Morford, Alex Ralph, and Dr. Lee Mellor
    Writing and Research- Alex Ralph
    Technical Producer- Andrew Gray
    Production Assistant- Ashley Monroe
    Suzanna Ryan- DNA Expert
    Cloyd Steiger- Retired Seattle PD Homicide Detective

  • Episode 52 The Burger Chef Murders Part 1

    The small town of Speedway, Indiana is world famous for its connection to the Indianapolis 500, but in November, 1978, it would capture headlines for a perplexing quadruple murder known as 'The Burger Chef Murders'. On the night of Friday November 17th, four young workers from a local Burger Chef fast food restaurant were in the process of closing up the store when something went terribly wrong, and they were presumably taken from the store. When the unoccupied store was discovered, and police investigated, they found signs of what appeared to be a robbery with cash missing from the store's safe and registers. All that was left behind were rolls of coins, as well as the purses and jackets of the missing workers.

    Incredibly, despite the fact that local fast-food restaurants had been robbed leading up to this event, the authorities believed that the group of employees had taken the money and run off. They didn't investigate the store as a crime scene and instead, told management that they could clean up and open for business as usual. Two days later, the bodies of 20 year old Jayne Friedt, 16 year old Daniel Davis, 16 year old Mark Flemmonds, and 18 year old Ruth Ellen Shelton were found by hikers in a secluded area of Johnson County; 20 miles away from the Burger Chef. Three of the four, Ruth, Jayne, and Daniel had all been shot or stabbed to death. The fourth victim Mark, had signs of bludgeoning on his face, and had died from choking on his own blood. Jayne's Chevy Vega was found abandoned not far from the Burger Chef.

    The brutal murders of the four young Burger Chef workers set off shock waves, and police were under tremendous pressure to solve the case in light of them botching the early investigation. Rumors swirled as to who may have been responsible for the murders, and whether the murders were linked to the earlier string of fast-food robberies, or to the 'Speedway Bombings' case; in which as series of bombs exploded in Speedway two months earlier in September. The case eventually went cold, but despite the police failures early on in the case, it seems that there may be physical evidence in this case that may help lead to the identity of the killer, or killers.

    In Part 1 of the Burger Chef Murders, the panel discusses what happened, and what evidence may help solve the case. In the next episode, we will discuss potential suspects in the case.

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    Co-Hosts- Mike Morford, Alex Ralph, and Dr. Lee Mellor
    Writing and Research- Alex Ralph
    Technical Producer- Andrew Gray
    Production Assistant- Ashley Monroe
    Suzanna Ryan- DNA Expert
    Cloyd Steiger- Retired Seattle PD Homicide Detective

  • Episode 51 Bible John Part 2

    If you have not listened yet to Bible John part 1, please stop now and go back and listen to that episode first. In this episode, we wrap up our discussion of the killer known as 'Bible John' who targeted women in Glasgow Scotland from 1968-1969, and we explore potential suspects and DNA evidence in the case.


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    Writing and Research- Alex Ralph
    Technical Producer- Andrew Gray
    Production Assistant- Ashley Monroe
    Suzanna Ryan- DNA Expert
    Cloyd Steiger- Retired Seattle PD Homicide Detective

  • Episode 50 Bible John Part 1

    Between 1968 and 1969, a serial killer who came to be known as 'Bible John' stalked women in Glasgow Scotland. He would take the lives of three women in brutal fashion. All three women had various things that connected them, including a dance hall that they all visited. Despite eyewitnesses seeing the likely killer, and a composite sketch being created of him, he was never identified. In this episode, the team talks about the details of the case, and the things that are common between the victims. In part of of our Bible John coverage, we will look at some suspects in the case.

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    Writing and Research- Alex Ralph
    Technical Producer- Andrew Gray
    Production Assistant- Ashley Monroe
    Suzanna Ryan- DNA Expert
    Cloyd Steiger- Retired Seattle PD Homicide Detective

  • Episode 49 The Santa Rosa Hitchhiker Murders Part 2

    In this episode, we wrap up our exploration of the Santa Rosa Hitchhiker murders, and take a close look at suspects in the case, and discuss what evidence in the case may one day help to solve it.
    We are joined by case expert Deb Silva who spent two decades researching the case, and has the most detail filled website about the case.

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    Co-Hosts- Mike Morford, Alex Ralph, and Dr. Lee Mellor
    Writing and Research- Alex Ralph
    Technical Producer- Andrew Gray
    Production Assistant- Ashley Monroe
    Suzanna Ryan- DNA Expert
    Cloyd Steiger- Retired Seattle PD Homicide Detective

  • Episode 48 The Santa Rosa Hitchhiker Murders Part 1

    From 1972-1973, the city of Santa Rosa, CA experienced a series of abuductions and murders of girls and young women in the area. Most of them were known to be hitchhikers. There are thought to be at least 8 victims. Some of the victims were found dumped in the area. One had been poisoned to death, and others had been strangled. At least one victim was never found.
    Were these abductions and murders the work of one person, or a team of two killers working together? Or could two separate killers have been selecting victims from the same area at the same time? In part 1 of our coverage, we explore the victimology, and the area where the abductions and murdered happened in, as well as where the bodies were dumped. We are joined by Geoprofiler Doug MacGregor.

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    Writing and Research- Alex Ralph
    Technical Producer- Andrew Gray
    Production Assistant- Ashley Monroe
    Suzanna Ryan- DNA Expert
    Cloyd Steiger- Retired Seattle PD Homicide Detective

  • Episode 47 The Oakland County Child Murders Part 3

    In the last installment of our deep dive into the Oakland County Child Murders, we take a last look at potential suspects, and explore the possibility that a sinister island had something to do with the murders. We also give further consideration to the physical evidence to see how likely it is that the case will be solved based on DNA.

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    Writing and Research- Alex Ralph
    Technical Producer- Andrew Gray
    Production Assistant- Ashley Monroe
    Suzanna Ryan- DNA Expert
    Cloyd Steiger- Retired Seattle PD Homicide Detective

  • Episode 46 The Oakland County Child Murders Part 2

    Our deep dive into the Oakland County Child Murders case continues, and in this episode, we look closely at two prominent suspects who may have been ruled out based on the results of polygraph tests alone. Both of these men had records for unspeakable sex crimes against children. Although they look good on paper, the polygraph tests alone seem to have taken them off the suspect list, but can we find something more solid that could perhaps take them off of the suspect list, or will we find something that makes them worthy of being placed back on it? Once again, we are joined by Geographic Profiler Doug MacGregor in this episode.

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    Co-Hosts- Mike Morford, Alex Ralph, and Dr. Lee Mellor
    Writing and Research- Alex Ralph
    Technical Producer- Andrew Gray
    Production Assistant- Ashley Monroe
    Suzanna Ryan- DNA Expert
    Cloyd Steiger- Retired Seattle PD Homicide Detective

  • Episode 45 The Oakland County Child Murders Part 1

    For just over a one year period between February 1976 and March 1977, four children were abducted and murdered in Oakland County, Michigan. Although two of the victims were boys, and two were girls, and despite clear evidence of rape and binding on the male victims, police came to believe that one killer, or a set of killers was responsible for each abduction and murder. In each case, the victims were held for extended periods of time, fed, and cleaned. Each was re-dressed prior to being disposed of. Fear struck the residents across that area, and most parents were afraid to let their kids go outside alone. Just as suddenly as the murders started, they came to an end. A task force was put together to hunt down the killer or killers. Along the way, they looked into several suspects and local sex offenders of children. They also fielded many tips including one of them that led police to search almost every AMC Gremlin withing sight along with their drivers. In the end, the case went unsolved and remains so to this day. The good news is, there appears to be clues to work with, and physical evidence that may one day solve this case.

    In part 1 of our investigation into the Oakland County Child Murders, we explore each attack and examine the known clues. We also explore where the victims were abducted from, and where their bodies were dumped, and we are aided by Geographic Profiler Doug MacGregor to see if we can find any clues in the killer's movements.

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  • Episode 44 Ladies of the Lake

    Between 1994 and 1997, a serial killer preyed on sex workers in the Parkdale neighborhood of Toronto, Onatario in Canada. The bodies of 3 women were found in or on the shore of Lake Ontario. The crime scenes were nearly identical. Each victim was strangled and violated,then drowned. Other elements of the crime scenes mirrored each other as well,demonstrating a clear signature with each crime.A potential suspect was developed, but for reasons that aren't fully understood, a strong enough case couldn't be made against him and the case remains unsolved. Who killed the Ladies of the Lake? In this episode, the team discusses what potential clues and evidence might finally answer this question.

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  • Episode 43 The Dardeen Family Murders

    In November, 1987, a shocking crime happened in the small community of Ina, Illinois.
    After failing to show up for work, police were called to a secluded mobile home to do a welfare check on 28 year old Russell Keith Dardeen, and his family. When police entered the trailer through an unlocked door, they were greeted with a gruesome scene. In the bed of the Dardeen bedroom, police found the bodies of 30 year old Ruby Elaine Darlene, and her son 2 year old Peter. They had been beaten to death with a baseball bat that belonged to the Dardeens. Sadly, Elaine was pregnant with the couple's second child; a daughter, and during the beating, Elaine went into labor and delivered her daughter. Coldy, the newborn baby was also beaten to death. Missing from the home was Keith, and his car. Police first suspected that Keth had killed his family and fled, but the mystery deepened when he was found shot to death in a field a mile from his home. His penis had been cut off. It was a ghastly scene. His car was soon found parked very close to the local police station.
    The Dardeen family murders shocked Ina residents. An investigation by police could reveal no motive for the murders. There was no sign of infidelity, or anything shady in the Dardeen's lives. Robbery also was ruled out because valuable items were left behind, and there was no sign of forced entry. In the weeks and months leading up to the murders, Keith reportedly had been very concerned about crime in the area- so much so, that he planned to move his family out of Ina without even having a new job lined up. Some people would theorize that Keith was worried about a very specific threat, but what that threat was if there was one, eluded detectives. Because Keith was very wary of letting people into his home, it seemed possible that the Dardeens knew their killer or killers, and let them in.
    Without clear suspects, it wasn't long before a violent serial killer named Tommy Lee Sells became a potential POI in the case. He had a history of similar crimes, and admitted to killing the Dardeens. But Sells's story kept changing, and the facts of the case that he gave police had been published in newspapers. So was he the killer of the Dardeens, or a red herring? Police have been tight lipped about the case and what evidence the have, but to date, there have been no arrests.

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  • Episode 42 The Tylenol Murders

    In the Fall of 1982, seven people in the Chicago area fell ill and died after taking over the counter Tylenol that was purchased at various locations across the city. It soon became clear that all seven had died as the result of cyanide poisoning, and city officials working with Tylenol manufacturers raced against time to get the product off of store shelves; sending the public into full fledged panic. The murders were deemed to be the result of product tampering, ushering in new methods of safety sealing the medication; methods which still exist to this day. The authorities didn't have much to work with and sought to ID one bearded man who was captured on grainy store surveillance, but he never came forward, and the murders were never solved. In this episode, the team discusses the clues, possible motives, and a strong potential suspect, as well as copycat crimes that were inspired by the Tylenol murders.

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  • Episode 41 Oakey 'AL' Kite


    Oakey Kite, who went by Al, was a friendly and well-liked 53 year old man living in a home in a quiet section of Aurora, Colorado in May, 2004. When his lifeless body was found in his finished basement apartment, it was quickly obvious to authorities that his death was a homicide, and a brutal one at that. He had been bound, beaten, tortured, and stabbed. A motive for Al's murder was elusive; he didn't have any enemies, and nothing in his personal life seemed to point to a reason that he would be killed in such a brutal fashion. Whoever had killed Al had carefully wiped down the home for prints, sanitized the crime scene, and destroyed potential evidence.

    It soon became apparent that the suspect in this case was a mysterious man who had answered Al's classified ad offering to rent out his basement apartment. This man it seems used a variety of accents, and disguises, and multiple sketches of the suspect seem to show two different looking men of different ages.It also became clear that this same man may have replied to other area classified ads for rooms to rent before settling on Al as his victim.

    The man's image was captured on an ATM camera after he used Al's debit card to withdraw money, but he was wearing a mask in the video, so it didn't help much,although, it hasn't stopped some online sleuths from commenting that the man's eyes are very similar to those of serial killer, Israel Keyes- a killer that often used extreme measures like Al's killer to evade detection.

    Golden State Killer investigator, Paul Holes, looked into this case extensively on his show 'The DNA of Murder' and we consulted him for this episode. Paul is convinced that this killer may have been a 'pro' or hitman that came to the U.S. from another country, and a single bit of DNA blood evidence found at the scene seems to back this up, but to date, Al's killer has evaded capture.

    In this episode, the team discusses the case, the clues, and the M.O. of the killer, and compares it to other crimes with some similarities.

    Al's would be renter, who identified himself as "Robert Cooper," claimed to be from the East Coast and to work for Wells Fargo Bank. He provided false identification and contact information on his rental application. Witnesses generally described the suspect male as white, in his forties or fifties, 5’10", 170 to 180 pounds, with black or brown hair. Witnesses reported that he walked with a limp and used a cane, and another reported that he spoke with a possible Romanian accent.

    If you have any information about the murder of Oakey Albert Kite, please call Detective Thomas Sobieski at 303-739-6710

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  • Episode 40 The Monster of Florence

    In this episode, the team explores Italy's most infamous unsolved murder series by a killer dubbed 'The Monster of Florence'

    For a decade from the mid 1970s until the mid 1980's, the Monster of Florence stalked unsuspecting couples on secluded lover's lane areas, and was responsible for at least 14 murders in the Florence countryside. The attacks were brutal, sadistic, and sexual in nature. Despite a few tantalizing clues; including possible eyewitnesses, and a letter mailed to police which included the flesh of one of his victims, this diabolical killer was never caught. In this episode, the team discusses the known victims, as well as other potential cases he may be linked to, and analyzes potential suspects.

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  • Episode 39 The Black Dahlia; Rosenda Mondragon

    In our continuing coverage of the Black Dahlia murder, we look closely at the case of 20 year old Rosenda Mondragon to see if her murder may be connected to the Black Dahlia murder, Rosenda's nude and possibly mutilated body was found in Los Angeles in July, 1947. She had been strangled with a silk stocking. There were clues to work with along with eyewitnesses that provided information to police, but the case went cold, and to this day, it's not clear if her death is connected to the Black Dahlia murder.

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  • Episode 38 'The Black Dahlia' Elizabeth Short Part 3

    In our final episode of 2023, we continue our exploration of the murder of of 'The Black Dahlia'; Elizabeth Smart. In this chapter, we look at other cases that may be connected to Elizabeth's murder, and consider possible suspects.

    Happy Holidays from the Citizen Detective team! We will return in January, 2024 with an all new episode.

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