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In this episode we are going to explore Goth's White Hegemony: Racism, Gatekeeping and Identity. We'll be looking at the ways the mechanisms of white supremacy show up in the goth scene, what we can do about it, and whether goth is a music based subculture.
Our guest this episode is Shonalika! You can find them on YouTube, in Powderpaint and Calendrical Rot.
If you enjoy this podcast, please support us on Patreon.
Getting Into Goth 00:00
Gendered Goth 8:30
Racialized Goth 12:30
The Audacity of Whiteness 34:45
Conservatism and Community Praxis 52:00
Is Goth a Music Based Subculture 1:09:30
Book Nerds 1:53:00
Outro 1:59:30
References:
-Skinheads Romantic Violence
-How to Fight Fascism
-Persistent Problem of Colorism
-Vampires and Whiteness
-Vampires of Color
-Cultural Contradictions in Neoliberalism
-Practice Theory
-Skin Bleaching
-Commitment Against Racism
-Black Activists to Follow
-Indigenous Activists to Follow
-Latinx Activists to Follow
-Asian Activists to Follow
-Black Skin vs. Pale Aesthetic
-I’m so Goth I Was Born Black
-San La Muerte Fest
-Goth So White
-Nazi Goths Fuck Off
-What Ends When Symbols Shatter
-Black History and America’s Gothic Soul
-Racial Doll Test
-Obscura Undead: Goth is Political
-Consumer Identity
-Meritocracy
-Neo-liberal Wokeism
-Colorism in Goth
-Extreme Politics in Underground Music
-Recognizing Race Reductionism
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We compare goth aesthetics and ideals of goth communities across America, discuss what makes goth music goth, and swap clubbing stories.
Our guests are Ophelia and Viktor
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Intro 00:00
Getting into Goth 2:00
Comparing Goth Clubs 10:30
Alone Together: Goth DJs 36:00
What is Goth Music 1:01:30
Socializing with Goths 1:22:20
Live Music 1:33:40
Esotericism 1:47:40
Cybergoth 1:54:30
Outro 2:01:00
Please Help 2:02:40
Post Show Musings 2:05:13
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Our conversation this month takes many a twist and turn as we cover the life and times of Veronika Sorrow. From her dark origins, to her Siouxsie Sioux cover band, her 80's retro shop MeowMeowz, and her eventual departure from the goth scene.
MeowMeowz: meowmeowz
Nocturna: nocturnasiouxsie
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Getting into Goth 00:00
Music Projects 9:45
Goth Clubs 31:49
MeowMeowz 51:45
Leaving Goth 1:06:12
Post Show Musings 1:30:20
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cover image by @artist_mdc
Turns out goths are weird. On this episode we explore the impact of emotional disorders and disabilities like depression, autism, ADHD and chronic illness. We also discuss why goth’s are too obsessed with being technically correct, review the new book Goth Parenting: The Dark Joys of Raising Baby Bats, and interview a gen alpha goth!
Our guests are Anastasia of Cemetery Sex and Slings and Arrows, Tay of Sanguine Symphony and Shirthole
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Introductions 00:00
Goth Debate Perverts 8:00
Experience with Disability 32:00
Goth Culture's Neurodivergence 49:20
Depression and Emotional Intelligence 1:10:00
Is Goth Subversive 1:43:15
Fashion and Goths of Color 2:12:30
Conclusion 2:34:45
Book Review 2:39:45
Gen Alpha Goth 2:44:40
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This month we explore 4 formative albums, and discuss what the hell goth adjacent even means. We’re looking at Zombie Ghost Train, Blutengel, Black Sabbath and Hednagarna!
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Intro: 00:00
Zombie Ghost Train - Dealing the Death Card 6:00
Blutengel - Demon Kiss 36:15
Black Sabbath - Paranoia 1:22:00
Hednagarna - Tra 2:02:00
Outro 2:40:00
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This month we take a look at Gaza and the history of the Middle East. We'll explore the current conflict in the region and discuss how world events shape and impact the goth scene.
Our guest this episode is Hani
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(00:00) Intro
(4:45) Male Tears - Paradísco
(6:00) Getting into Goth: Music, Nerds, and Dance
(29:32) Why This Subject?
(43:00) History of the Middle East
(1:09:00) Zionism
(1:39:00) Violence
(1:59:00) How Does the Scene React
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Cover Photo by Pascal Bauret https://www.instagram.com/pascal.de.paris.fotos/
It’s the battle of decades. How do Gen Z and Millennials define goth differently, has goth lost it’s mystery and magic when we can access everything online, what makes us cringe, where does each group stand on gatekeeping and politics, how do we go about including new genres of music under the goth umbrella, why do my knees hurt when I wake up in the morning? All this and more on this months episode of Cemetery Confessions!
Our guests are Caitlyn of Corlyx and Kayla of Scum
Please support us on Patreon!
Intro 00:00
Goth Adjacent Music 9:00
Internet and Magic 23:00
Goth Ideology 1:13:26
Is Goth Muisc Based 1:31:00
Lifestyle 1:47:20
Generational Divide 2:01:00
Post Show Musing 2:17:00
References:
-Juvenoia
-Cringe
-TikTok’s Goth Problem
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On this episode we discuss why no one knows what the hell 'darkwave' is, explore Trae's piano fetish, oh and we review some albums as well.
Of note: This episode was recorded before the tragic death of Steve Albini, which is why this was not brought up during our discussion of his various projects.
If you enjoy the show, please support us on Patreon!
Attrition - The Black Maria
Xmal Deutschland - Codes
Alien Skin
Give my Remains to Broadway - Rend my Flesh
Blacklist - The Witching Hour
VV & the void - The Cage
Gurs - Gerran Bizi Gara
Ist Ist - Lost my Shadow
Huir - Triumphal Arch Lovers
Blind Dreams - Cold Like Snow
Dead Tahiti - Fala
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Why did goths change the way they interacted with outsiders after Columbine, why was fashion of the time starkly different from today, why was gatekeeping part of the scene in the first place, and why weren’t goths allowed to smile before 2010. All this and more as we walk through the story of goth in the late 90’s and early 2000’s with a panel of goths who lived through it.
Our guests this month are Jessie Meowser, Jessica and Bruce Lord.
If you enjoy the show, please support us on Patreon!
Intro 00:00
90's 3:48
Club Scene 11:20
Life in the 2000's 44:25
Columbine and 9/11 1:20:30
Goth Was Just Different 1:37:00
Vampires: 2:05:00
Emo vs. Goth 2:15:40
Find More 2:30:00
Fashion 2:34:08
Mallgoth 2:50:00
References:
-90’s goth youtube playlist
-90’s goth youtube playlist
-small town goth
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We're speaking with Natasha Sharf about goth drama, debating whether goth is an umbrella term or not, exploring the impact of goth fashion leaking into the mainstream and much more!
Authored Books | Prog Magazine | Young Limbs Numb Hymns
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Intro 00:00
Turning Goth 2:41
Is goth too serious 11:00
Influence 20:30
Meltdown Magazine 25:28
What is Goth Music 35:30
The Goth Umbrella 45:55
Goth Fashion and Transgression 59:34
How has Goth Changed 1:08:38
Music 1:17:15
Sexism 1:27:00
Goth vs. Gothic 1:31:30
Zines 1:33:00
Outro 1:41:30
Post Show Musings 1:46:30
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We're speaking with Willow Scarlet about South Asian fashion in the goth scene, the need for diversity in goth music, their experience as a goth in India and more.
If you enjoy the show, please support us on Patreon!
Intro 00:00
Cultural Influence in Goth Music 6:30
South Asian Goth Aesthetic 16:40
What is Goth Music 33:10
Queer Identity 37:30
What is Goth 42:37
Pishach 51:30
Fast Fashion 55:33
Cultural Appropriation 1:03:10
State of Goth Music 1:21:45
Outro 1:38:30
References:
-Alt Culture is not Original
-Cultural Appropriation
-Ghosting - Lion King -
We're taking an in depth look at what kinds of creativity are possible within a dark scene framework through the new release by Temple of Angels, Endless Pursuit. We'll also share a list of quick fire album recommendations, chat about libraries and more.
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Intro 00:00
Album Review 5:50
Temple of Angels - Endless PursuitSinister Suggestions 1:11:25
More Album Recs 1:20:20
References:
-Octavian Winters - The Line or Curve
-Gifts of the Earth
-Gothnetic - Flowers
-Frozen Charlette’s - Wax Venus
-Angel’s of the Void - Repent
-Yakima Jera - Fire
-Nightsister - Die Young
-Vosh - Vessel
-Mortal Boy - Anhedonia
-Voilok
-Petrified Entity - Alone
-Obsidian - 19 Dead
-Linnea Hjerten - Nio Systrar
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On this episode we speak with Vincent and Victor about their project, Gothe Residency of the Arts. We’ll debate the place of AI art, explore whether goth can still transgress or has become too safe, wax poetic about the role of art in the goth community and more.
If you enjoy the show and want to hear this months exclusive bonus episode, head over to Patreon!
Intro 00:00
Guest Introductions 2:30
What is GROTA 12:20
Why GROTA 22:15
Art and the Internet 27:42
Inclusivity and Gatekeeping 39:30
Dark Market 43:30
AI Art 49:10
Philosophy of Art 1:10:15
Is goth too safe 1:21:23
Post Show Musings 1:40:15
References:
-Is Goth too Safe -
Azy, Ryan and Trae get together to discuss what the future of goth holds and whether goth music has gone stale.
Obscura Undead, YouTube, Bandcamp
WitchHands, Circumversor, The ArbitrariumIf you enjoy the show and want to hear this months exclusive bonus episode, head over to Patreon!
Azy Suggestions:
-Violet Stigmata
-High on a Merry go RoundRyan Suggestions:
-Clockwork Echo
-Bat-Cave Productions (use code ‘Cemetery Confessions’ in the memo box!)
-Werewolf Radar
-Diavol Strain
-Nouvelle Vague
-One Band Could Be Your Life
-Diamanda Galas
-Black Tape for a Blue Girl
-BLKHRTSTrae Suggestions:
-El Cachivache Orkesta
-Tokyo
-Tokyo
-Gotan Project
-Bajofondo
-Goth: A History -
We talk to Dr. Jordan Soper, certified Sex Therapist and Psychologist, about the overwhelming sexualization of goth girls, the relationship of depression to goths, porn and much more! We also hear some new singles from Blood Bells and Gothnetic.
Find Dr. Soper on IG, TikTok and Youtube
If you enjoy the show and want to hear this months exclusive bonus episode, head over to Patreon!
Intro 00:00
Getting into goth 2:45
Are Goths Depressed 12:35
Do Goths Make Better Lovers 26:40
The Goth GF 37:00
Porn 53:45
Neurospicy Sex 58:20
Death and Sex 1:04:10
ACE 1:07:00
Trauma 1:13:00
Tik-Tok Pathology 1:17:50
Recomendations 1:29:30
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We’re discussing whether or not modern goth is stale, why so many of us are burned out on Darkwave and Post-Punk, reviewing the new album from TELARAÑA and reviewing a slew of recent album releases!
If you enjoy the show and want to hear this months exclusive bonus episode, head over to Patreon!
Intro 00:00
Is Goth Music Stale 2:45
Darkwave Burnout 17:00
Album Review: 32:50
Telarana - AugustiaSinister Suggestions: 1:03:50
-Castlevania: Nocturne
-Only Murders in the Building
-Rubella Ballet - Rich with Our Money
-Psychodrama - Heretic
-She’s in Parties - End Scene
-Dividing Lines - Waiting for Life
-Moon Vampire - Forest and a Victim Two Bites
-Friction/Substance Split
-Peach Gardens - In Time and Eternity
-Endlos - Dark Fields
-Sex Code - Pleasure
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We speak with Emma to uncover the insights gleaned from her PhD study, which surveyed thousands of goths across dozens of countries! We’ll explore the relationship of death to goth identity, what truly makes goth fashion unique, debate the role the internet has played in the development of goth culture and more.
Read her article here, on page 74.
If you enjoy the show and want to hear this months exclusive bonus episode, head over to Patreon!
Intro 00:00
Origin story 3:15
Study Results and Methodology 7:00
Role of Death and the Past in Goth 27:15
Resistance to the "mainstream" 42:23
Goth Fashion Through Plenitude 49:20
Semiotics and Appropriation 1:02:18
Socio-Aesthetic 1:14:45
The Internet 1:19:00
Aging in Goth 1:31:30
Post Show Musings 1:55:30
References:
-Goldfields Gothic: Festival of Dark Ideas
-Black Funerals in the US
-Radical Death Studies
-Cyborg Manifesto
-Theories of Social Change
-Asking the Gothic Questions
-Postmodernism’s Epistemological Legacies
-Plenitude
-Musicking and Communitas
-Paulo de Jesus
-The Gothic and the Everyday
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This month we speak to YouTube's Random Goth Couple about a range of topics! We consider whether or not goth's love of the 80's has caused it to stagnate, the role of goth aesthetic in popular culture, what the scene is like in Ireland, and even what our favorite Anime's are. We also hear from the bands Cemetery Siren and Allie Frost on All Goth Considered!
You can Random Goth Couple on YouTube, IG, and TikTok.
Introduction 00:00
Getting Into Goth 1:32
Goth in Ireland 28:10
Random Goth Couple 44:55
Anime 55:45
The History of Goth Culture 1:01:15
Is Goth Dying 1:19:22
Is Goth just an Aesthetic 1:41:50
All Goth Considered 2:08:50
Post Show Musings 2:22:30
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We are reviewing the newest album from Voyna as well as a new crop of fresh darkwave, post-punk and goth releases. We also hear from Azy Bats as they interview Lovataraxx, Pleasure Victim and Happy Phantom!
Album Review:
Voyna - And the Heresies...Sinister Suggestions: 49:00
-Alien Skin - Black Dance Days
-Human tetris - Two Rooms
-Deti Nosferatu
-Ames Solitaires
-Opaque Shades
-Puta Negra - Playa Sola
-Routine - Feeling Low
-Conjuro Laico - Danza Infernal
-Sexsomnia - Dormant
-Loyal Nothing - Death Always WinsAll Goth Considered 1:06:15
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Terri Kennedy of Ipso Facto has graced us with her presence on this episode! We discuss punk and deathrock in the 70’s and 80’s, hear stories about Shadow Project and the LA deathrock scene, feminism, recount various goth fashion trends and a lot more! It’s a packed discussion focusing on the life and passions of a staple in the California goth scene.
If you enjoy the show and want to hear this months exclusive bonus episode, head over to Patreon!
No timestamps this episode! We switch topics about every 5 minutes which would make for a nightmare string of bookmarks so sit back and enjoy the show.
References:
Stone 588
Representation without Transformation
Imperial Feminism
The Death of Feminism
Who’s Afraid of Gender - Vis mere
