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In this part 2 episode, we discuss the end of Bill Cooper's life, his ascension to a pillar of reverence for U.S. militia movements and domestic terrorists, and the impact of his book and ideas on pop culture, to include sci-fi and hip-hop music.
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In 1991, renowned UFOlogist and conspiracy theorist Milton William Cooper published a book that would end up becoming the catalyst for the zeitgeist of the pre-millennium tension of the 90's. Behold a Pale Horse contained documents, notes, and essays detailing a New World Order plan to enslave the human population via the media and government mind-control experiments, secret society oaths, and and even an imminent UFO invasion. However, many of the themes in the book would resonate with the public, as people began to associate what Cooper describes to events happening globally, with some of his predictions actually coming true. The book would eventually become further associated with American militias and domestic terrorism. But how much of it was just made-up nonsense? Was there ANY merit to to his experiences and beliefs? Was Cooper a fraud? We discuss, and then some.
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Tonight, we talk about real-life Halloween tales gathered from internetland, ranging from the absurd, to the comical, to the truly horrifying. It's enough to make you just want to stay at home and eat candy, where it's safe. Or is it?
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On Halloween in 1974, a man named Ronald Clark O'Bryan would commit a horrific act that would have a continued impact over the next 5 decades and become the basis for the urban legend of strangers poisoning candy handed out to children on Halloween. Now, while this urban legend has been mostly debunked, there are small bits of truth that help enforce the idea that people are using Halloween candy as a method to harm children. We discuss these incidents over the years, as well as whether or not a myth can become reality over time.
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Tonight, we discuss topics from past episodes in which the mystery surrounding them has been solved since we last covered them. The Murders at Steve's Motel, the Gabby Petito disappearance, and even the one that started it all, the Ruth Price 911 call are up for re-evaluation. So welcome back, and enjoy this walk through the archives.
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From 1894 until 1997, the United States and Canada ran a schooling system for Native Americans that equated to systemic genocide- children, some as young as newborns, were taken from their families and forced to live in boarding schools with the intent of assimilating them into Christian society. Not allowed to engage in their native languages or religious practices, these children endured horrific physical and mental abuse as they were stripped of their culture, many times culminating in death via disease, abuse, or suicide. Over a quarter million native children in the U.S and Canada were forced into these schools, with thousands upon thousands never returning home, as evidenced by the discovery of unmarked mass gravesites at many of the schools, with more being found every month.
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For 84 years, there existed a small, dark stain in the heart of America. A place where travelers of the night passing through a small town in Ohio were likely to be surrounded by rapists, drug dealers, murderers and sex traffickers and not realize it. Despised by some, loved by others who knew it was a place where anything goes, it's notoriety reached it's peak in 1991 when a triple homicide occurred, the victims being the couple that owned the property along with their six-year-old daughter, in what appeared to be a professional hit. The case was never solved, and it, along with the very acknowledgement of the existence of the place has been swept under the rug by locals, and it was finally demolished in 2021. This is the legend of Steve's Motel.
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This week, we each choose what we believe to be the most haunted place in America, and discuss our reasons why. A quaint southern town known for having more ghostly inhabitants than live ones, a mental health facility with a hellish reputation, and a house in Kansas with a haunting so incredible it was captured multiple times on network television. So grab your Halloween candy, and enjoy!
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Over the last few years, there has been a growing trend in horror- the Extreme Horror Experience. Evolved from the notoriety of "Extreme Haunted Houses" like McKamey Manor and Blackout, these experiences look to disturb and unnerve visitors by blurring the line between safety and danger. Although what actually happens in these experiences is rather secretive, there are reports of intentional physical harm and borderline sexual assault. But are these places just sadism in disguise? Are they actually scary, or ridiculous cash grabs? We'll tell you what we think in this fun episode.
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At the base of the tallest mountain in Japan, there is a place where hundreds of people a year go to purposefully never return from. Curious visitors to the area may encounter corpses, curses left behind by the dead, or sometimes, hear screams from deep within the trees. Though there is some debate over whether or not Aokigahara is haunted in the traditional sense of the word, there is no doubt that there exists a dark allure that compels people to enter the forest and end their lives.
- Warning: This episode contains discussion about suicide and Japanese suicide culture. If you are feeling suicidal or experiencing extreme depression, *please* reach out to someone for help. The National Suicide Prevention lifeline is available 24/7 in North America at 800-273-8255. For those abroad, below is a link to the various suicide lifelines available in different countries.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_suicide_crisis_lines
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Tonight, we discuss the case everyone is talking about- the disappearance and death of Gabby Petito, while traveling cross-country with her boyfriend, Brian Laundrie. This case has a series of oddities and downright bizarre coincidences, including a double murder that occurred in an area of Utah that Gabby and Brian happened to be in at the same time. At the time of this recording, Brian Laundrie's whereabouts were unknown, and Gabby's remains had not been yet confirmed. Do our theories make any sense? Listen and decide.
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On April 1st 2014, two young students from the Netherlands, Kris Kremmers and Lisanne Froon, disappeared while hiking the forests during their trip to Boquete, Panama. Despite an extensive search and investigation by both Panama and Dutch authorities over 10 days, no traces of the two girls were found. Then, 10 weeks later, a backpack containing items belonging to the two missing girls mysteriously appeared on a riverbank in a small neighboring village. Partial remains of the girls were also discovered in the area. After investigating the items in the backpack, which included a digital camera that contained 90 photos taken 7 days after the disappearance, all taken in a three-hour span (One of the photos in the sequence had been deleted), the "official" explanation by the local authorities was death by misfortune, as tourists perishing after being lost in the jungle is not all that uncommon... however, Boquete has a dark history and present and it may lead to the answer of the question of what *really* happened to two women in the jungles of Panama. We sink our teeth into that dark history, and find some very interesting facts that lead to even more interesting theories.
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In 1971 a book was published, titled "The Anarchist's Cookbook", which contained instructions for the creation of explosive devices, drugs, and anything that could be used to fight the government during the counterculture era. The book came under review by federal authorities, who determined that it was mostly useless and was protected by the 1st amendment, and the book fell out of publication 20 years later. But thanks to magic of the internet, the book saw a resurgence in the 90's via text files being passed around on BBS message boards, with sections added for hacking, phreaking, burglary, and general criminal activities. This became known as the "Jolly Roger's Cookbook", as many of the new sections were written by someone named "The Jolly Roger". Having dozens of different versions and revisions, it thus began it's urban legend as the internet's guide to terrorism in a pre-9/11 world. How does it hold up today? Is it valuable information, or just general ridiculousness? We go through parts of (one of the versions of) the cookbook, and what we determine may surprise you.
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In 2012, international student from Wuhan, Jun Lin was drugged, murdered and dismembered in an apartment in Toronto. The crime was captured on video in gruesome detail and uploaded to the internet. This very event was foretold by a group of internet sleuths who had been tracking the perpetrator, Luka Magnotta, for over a year due to videos he had previously posted on Facebook of him killing kittens. An international manhunt was launched, and the murderer was caught thanks to the narcissism that defined his personality. Join us as we discuss the bizarre evolution of a criminal.
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We follow up our episode on the death of Elisa Lam with a quick review of the Netflix docuseries about the case, give our thoughts about it, and whether or not our opinions about Lam's death have changed.
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Tonight, we dive into one of the most famous pieces of internet lore- the 2013 disappearance of Elisa Lam, which took the internet by storm with the release of the unsettling surveillance video from the infamous Cecil Hotel, which showed the last time she was seen alive, displaying behavior inside of an elevator which to some indicated she was being followed. Elisa's body was found days later inside of of the water tanks on the hotel rooftop, an area only accessible by hotel staff. The official cause of death was accidental drowning, but given what we know eight years later, was that really what happened? Join us as we try and make sense of one of the most puzzling deaths from the last decade.
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A lake monster possibly summoned from an interdimensional portal. An arachnid the size of a small car. A humanoid moth that is also a harbinger of bad things to come, and... a kangaroo horse dragon from the tri-state area? We discuss the wonderful world of Cryptozoology, and some of our favorite mythical beasts, both terrifying and comical.
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In 2018, a "Mukbang" YouTuber named Kate Yup became a bit of an internet sensation, showcasing her ability to consume monstrous amounts of seafood on her channel, despite being a woman of small physical stature- all the while making sure to keep her face hidden. As her views rose into the millions, viewers began to notice something... well, odd about her videos. People noticed bruising and other signs of physical trauma on Kate, an unsettling presence of another person, and coded messages in the videos asking for help. As the concern and questions grew, so did Kate's popularity, prompting her to somewhat address it on a video stating she was okay... yet *that* video contained more coded messages. Then, suddenly, the videos stopped. And no one has seen Kate since. We dive into this strange case with many questions and theories about her identity, and what was REALLY going on with those videos.
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In October 2019, Erin Valenti, a 33 year-old successful CEO of a tech company, traveled to California from Utah for business. On the day she was set to return, she made a series of bizarre phone calls to her parents, at one point, stating, ""It's all a game, it's a thought experiment, we're in the Matrix." She was then never heard from again, and police determined that she was "voluntarily" missing. 5 days later, she was found dead in the back seat of her rental car, parked on a street in a residential area of San Jose. No signs of foul play. Clean toxicology report. Official cause of death? "Acute manic episode". Join us as we explore this case and present our (and the internet's) theories on what *really* happened to Erin Valenti.
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Hard to believe, but it's been one year exactly since we published our very first episode, "The Ruth Price 911 call". 40 episodes and 15,000 plays later, we talk about the past year, our favorite moments and episodes, as well as our funniest- and worst memories. Sit back and relax with us this week, we'll get back to the creepy stuff next week, we promise.
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