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Welcome to Living Well with MS, the podcast that empowers you to take control of your health and wellbeing. Today we’re thrilled to welcome back Dr Aaron Boster as our guest! Dr Boster is a board-certified Neurologist specialising in Multiple Sclerosis. He is a frequent guest on Living Well with MS and in this episode he’s here to talk about Medication, one of the pillars of the Overcoming MS Program. Specifically, Aaron goes into detail on a wide range of disease modifying therapies (DMTs) for MS, as well as discussing when people should start taking DMT’s, and what they should consider before they do so. There’s lots of useful information in this episode about many different DMT options – we hope you find it useful in making the right decisions for you. Let us know what you think!
Watch this episode on YouTube here. Keep reading for the key episode takeaways.
Topics and Timestamps:01:21 What are the medication choices for people with MS and how have they improved?
02:39 When should I start a DMT?
04:30 What should I consider when choosing a drug?
07:08 Alemtuzumab (Lemtrada)
11:14 Cladribine (Mavenclad)
15:05 Fingolimod (Gilenya)
17:13 Mitoxantrone (Novantrone)
18:39 Natalizumab (Tysabri)
21:42 Ofatumumab (Kesimpta)
25:01 Ocrelizumab (Ocrevus)
28:58 Ozanimod (Zeposia)
30:35 Rituximab (Rituxan, MabThera, and Truxima)
32:34 Siponimod (Mayzent)
34:59 Avonex/ Betaferon/ Refib/ Extavia
37:49 Glatiramer Acetate (Copaxone)
40:07 Dimethyl Fumarate (Tecfidera)
42:38 Diroximel Fumarate (Vumerity)
43:46 Plegridy
44:45 Ponesimod (ponvory)
45:41 Teriflunomide (Aubagio)
50:14 Low-dose Naltrexone
52:07 BTK inhibitors
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More info and links:Dr Boster was on six previous Living Well with MS episodes:S1E11: Making the Right Medication ChoicesS2E17: Lifestyle Choices and Their Impact on MSS3E43: Let’s Talk About Sex (and MS)S5E5 Webinar highlights from Ask Aaron with Dr. Aaron BosterS5E36 Webinar Highlights: Ask a Neurologist with Dr Aaron BosterS6E19 Webinar Highlights: Ask a Neurologist with Dr Aaron BosterCheck out Dr Boster’s popular YouTube channel covering all aspects of MSNew to Overcoming MS? Visit our introductory pageConnect with others following Overcoming MS on the Live Well HubVisit the Overcoming MS websiteFollow us on social media:FacebookInstagramYouTubePinterestDon’t miss out:Subscribe to this podcast and never miss an episode. Listen to our archive of Living Well with MS episodes here. If you like Living Well with MS, please leave a 5-star review.
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Welcome to Living Well with MS, the podcast that empowers you to take control of your health and wellbeing. Today we’re sharing the highlights from our webinar with the incredible Dr Phil Startin! Phil is an Overcoming MS facilitator who lives with progressive MS. He’s an expert in meditation and mindfulness and teaches Mindfulness Based Stress Reduction courses for people with MS. Phil gave us some brilliant information and really useful tips on how to meditate – it’s a fascinating listen whether you are a regular meditator or are just getting started with your practice. Let us know what you think!
Watch this episode on YouTube here. Keep reading for the key episode takeaways.
Topics and Timestamps:01:22 Phil’s background in meditation and mindfulness
03:33 The fight or flight response
04:49 How stress dysregulates our immune system
08:47 Meditation is clinically proven to help people cope with stress
10:41 Mini meditations to try throughout the day
13:49 Guided meditation
20:06 A definition of mindfulness
23:50 The benefits of awareness, including increased resilience
28:02 Mental health tips for your daily routine
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More info and links:Phil Startin has been on two other Living Well with MS episodes:S5E19 Webinar highlights: Progressive MS with Phil Startin and Helen Rees LeahyS5E14 Webinar highlights: Mindfulness and Meditation with Phil StartinJon Kabat-Zinn's Mindfulness Based Stress ReductionDr Walter Cannon’s fight or flight responseMeditation expert Ian GawlerListen to meditation expert Craig HassedS5E13 Meditation tips with Professor Craig HassedS1E7 Building a daily meditation practice with Dr Craig HassedShannon Harvey’s film My Year of Living Mindfully or listen to her podcast episodeHardwiring Happiness by Rick HansonNew to Overcoming MS? Visit our introductory pageConnect with others following Overcoming MS on the Live Well HubVisit the Overcoming MS websiteFollow us on social media:FacebookInstagramYouTubePinterestDon’t miss out:Subscribe to this podcast and never miss an episode. Listen to our archive of Living Well with MS episodes here. If you like Living Well with MS, please leave a 5-star review.
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Welcome to Living Well with MS, the podcast that empowers you to take control of your health and wellbeing. Today we’re thrilled to welcome Yvette Sargood as our guest! Yvette is an Overcoming MS facilitator and a meditation teacher who lives with MS and follows the Overcoming MS program. In this fascinating episode, Yvette talks to Geoff about meditation and mindfulness, as well as her personal journey with the MS Program, including disclosing her diagnosis to her employer and how she overcame her chocolate cravings! There’s lots of useful information and tips in this episode (including a discussion on chocolate replacements!) We hope you enjoy it – let us know what you think!
Watch this episode on YouTube here. Keep reading for the key episode takeaways.
Topics and Timestamps:01:18 Yvette’s MS and Overcoming MS journey
07:05 The progress made on DMTs and discrimination since the 1990s
09:01 The benefits to starting the Overcoming MS program even long after diagnosis
11:26 The decision to start a disease modifying therapy
14:59 Her difficulties in adopting the Overcoming MS program
16:27 Overcoming her chocolate cravings and chocolate replacements
18:51 Maintaining a healthy weight on the Overcoming MS program
20:23 The benefits of following the Overcoming MS program
22:54 Disclosing a multiple sclerosis diagnosis to your employer
26:01 Becoming an Overcoming MS facilitator
27:46 What is mindfulness and why is it important for people with MS?
32:53 Misconceptions about meditation and stress reduction
35:42 Tips for people new to the Overcoming MS program
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More info and links:Download the Headspace app for meditationLearn more about Disease Modifying Therapies for MSListen to a podcast featuring OMSer chefRead Yvette’s article on executives and disabilityLearn more about mindfulness expert Jon Kabat-ZinnJoin a mindfulness course with Yvette through MS-UKBecome an Overcoming MS volunteerTo take part in the next Pathway to Overcoming MS course email [email protected] to Overcoming MS? Visit our introductory pageConnect with others following Overcoming MS on the Live Well HubVisit the Overcoming MS websiteFollow us on social media:FacebookInstagramYouTubePinterestDon’t miss out:Subscribe to this podcast and never miss an episode. Listen to our archive of Living Well with MS episodes here. If you like Living Well with MS, please leave a 5-star review.
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Welcome to Living Well with MS, the podcast that empowers you to take control of your health and wellbeing. Today we’re sharing the highlights from our ‘Ask Aaron’ webinar, recorded in front of a global audience, with the incredible Dr Aaron Boster. Dr Boster is a board-certified neurologist who specialises in MS, and we’re delighted to have him answering a huge range of questions from our community! From medications to MRI’s and pregnancy to cold showers, Dr Boster gave us so many brilliantly informative answers - we hope you find this episode really useful. Let us know what you think!
Watch this episode on YouTube here. Keep reading for the key episode takeaways.
Topics and Timestamps:
01:49 Defining benign MS
05:05 How to get the most out of your time with your neurologist
09:32 The DMTs that help with brain atrophy
09:46 MRI’s as a way to show the rate of brain atrophy
18:20 Aubagio for secondary progressive MS
22:11 The future of Ocrevus dosing guidelines and becoming pregnant on ocrelizumab
26:31 Treating MS-relating dystonia
28:37 Treatments for MS-related bladder dysfunction
35:15 Low-dose Naltrexone for MS
39:00 The benefits of cold showers
39:38 Immune reconstitution therapies
43:22 Managing MS with diet and exercise
To join us live for the next webinar or watch the original presentation head to our website overcomingms.org
More info and links:Dr Boster was on five previous Living Well with MS episodes:
S1E11: Making the Right Medication Choices S2E17: Lifestyle Choices and Their Impact on MS S3E43: Let’s Talk About Sex (and MS) S5E5 Webinar highlights from Ask Aaron with Dr. Aaron Boster S5E36 Webinar Highlights: Ask a Neurologist with Dr Aaron Boster Check out Dr Boster’s popular YouTube channel covering all aspects of MS New to Overcoming MS? Visit our introductory page Connect with others following Overcoming MS on the Live Well Hub Visit the Overcoming MS website Follow us on social media: Facebook Instagram YouTube Pinterest Don’t miss out:Subscribe to this podcast and never miss an episode. Listen to our archive of Living Well with MS episodes here. If you like Living Well with MS, please leave a 5-star review.
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Welcome to Living Well with MS, the podcast that empowers you to take control of your health and wellbeing. Today we’re thrilled to welcome Dr Robert Motl as our guest! Dr Motl is a professor of kinesiology, nutrition and rehabilitation sciences at the University of Illinois at Chicago. He’s a top researcher in the field of exercise and physical activity for people living with MS and, in this fascinating episode, he talks to Overcoming MS facilitator Veronique Gauthier-Simmons about how much exercise is recommended for people with MS, the differences between lifestyle physical activity and structured exercise, and he explains how exercise works within the brain to slow MS progression. We learnt so much from Dr Motl, and hope it helps you kick start a new phase in your relationship with physical activity. Let us know what you think!
Watch this episode on YouTube here. Keep reading for the key episode takeaways.
Topics and Timestamps:02:09 Overview of Dr Motl’s research lab and team
03:21 Dr Motl’s interest in multiple sclerosis
05:57 Key findings over the years of the benefits of exercise for people with MS
09:32 Lifestyle physical activity vs. structured exercise for people with MS
15:03 How much exercise is recommended for people with MS?
17:39 Exercise as a disease modifying behavior
20:28 What part of the disease progression does exercise help?
22:12 Exercise’s effects on the brain
25:50 Who benefits the most from exercise?
28:42 Social prescribing of exercise for people with MS
31:16 Exercise’s effects on mood for people with MS
34:54 How to participate in future studies
36:16 The benefits of a holistic approach to MS management
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More info and links:Learn more about Veronique Gauthier-SimmonsLearn more about Dr Motl’s Exercise Neurology Reseach LaboratoryNew to Overcoming MS? Visit our introductory pageConnect with others following Overcoming MS on the Live Well HubVisit the Overcoming MS websiteFollow us on social media:FacebookInstagramYouTubePinterestDon’t miss out:Subscribe to this podcast and never miss an episode. Listen to our archive of Living Well with MS episodes here. If you like Living Well with MS, please leave a 5-star review.
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Welcome to Living Well with MS, the podcast that empowers you to take control of your health and wellbeing. Today we’re sharing the highlights from our webinar on ‘Resilience following Overcoming MS’ with the fantastic Dr Rachael Hunter. Rachael is a clinical psychologist and senior lecturer in clinical and health psychology at Swansea University. She's an OMSer herself and wrote the chapter on resilience in the Overcoming Multiple Sclerosis Handbook. She gave us so much interesting information and many helpful tips - we hope you find this really useful in bringing resilience into your own life. Let us know what you think!
Watch this episode on YouTube here and keep reading for the key episode takeaways.
Topics and Timestamps:00:59 Dr Hunter’s professional background and an overview of the Overcoming MS Program
04:30 What happens to the body physiologically during a stress response
06:55 Maslow’s hierarchy of needs and the fundamentals of wellness
09:37 Managing emotional wellbeing and scheduling “worry time”
14:30 Managing anxiety through self-compassion and mindfulness
17:24 The benefits of positive relationships with others
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More info and links: Dr Rachael Hunter was featured on S4E67: ‘Building Resilience with Dr Rachael Hunter’ Follow Dr Hunter on Facebook, Instagram and Twitter New to Overcoming MS? Visit our introductory page Connect with others following Overcoming MS on the Live Well Hub Visit the Overcoming MS website Follow us on social media: Facebook Instagram YouTube Pinterest Don’t miss out:Subscribe to this podcast and never miss an episode. Listen to our archive of Living Well with MS episodes here. If you like Living Well with MS, please leave a 5-star review. Feel free to share your comments and suggestions for future guests and episode topics by emailing [email protected].
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Welcome to Living Well with MS, where we are pleased to welcome Jenna Cox as our guest! Jenna is a nutritional therapist who lives with MS and is an Ambassador for the Bristol, UK Circle. In this episode, she talks about dairy alternatives, calcium and bone density on a plant-based diet and probiotics for the gut microbiome.
Topics and Timestamps:00:58 Jenna’s MS diagnosis
05:12 Adopting the Overcoming MS Program
09:19 Jenna’s work as a nutritional therapist
12:22 Diary-free swaps for milk, cheese and other products
15:16 Calcium and bone density on the Overcoming MS diet
21:30 Nutrition for PMS and PMDD
27:15 Probiotics and the gut microbiome for people with MS
33:31 The link between MS and cardiovascular issues, especially for women
More info and links: New to Overcoming MS? Visit our introductory page Connect with others following Overcoming MS on the Live Well Hub Learn more about Jenna’s work at www.jennacox.co.uk Follow Jenna on Instagram @jennacoxnutrition Check out the Overcoming MS diet recommendations Check out the Menopause and MS roundtable hosted by Dr Jonny White Visit the Overcoming MS website Follow us on social media: Facebook Instagram YouTube Pinterest Don’t miss out:Subscribe to this podcast and never miss an episode. Listen to our archive of Living Well with MS episodes here. If you like Living Well with MS, please leave a 5-star review. Feel free to share your comments and suggestions for future guests and episode topics by emailing [email protected].
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In this episode, we’re sharing highlights from a ‘talkhealth’ webinar: ‘TH+ Expert Webinar with Dr Jonathan White: Overcoming MS’. In the webinar, Overcoming MS medical advisor, Dr Jonathan White speaks about the evidence and benefits of the Program, his personal MS journey and making healthy changes for life. ‘talkhealth’ is a patient-centric online health community based in the UK, that provides a full range of support services.
Topics and timestamps:02:25 Intro: Jonathan’s MS diagnosis and Overcoming MS journey.
09:27 The importance of a compassionate diagnosis.
10:14 Finding hope with an MS diagnosis with a healthy lifestyle.
11:29 An overview of the Program.
12:35 How Overcoming MS can prevent other conditions.
13:14 The history of the Overcoming MS charity.
16:27 Connecting through Overcoming MS Circles.
18:39 The research behind the Overcoming MS Program.
22:41 The benefits of physical activity for people with MS.
24:53 Mindfulness and mental health.
28:21 Disease-modifying drugs for MS.
32:14 Preventing MS in family members.
39:24 How to change your life, for life.
42:13 The increase in plant-based options at stores and restaurants.
More info and links: Watch the original webinar Find out more about ‘talkHealth’ Hear Jonathan on other episodes including the 100th Episode, the menopause roundtable, an introduction to Overcoming MS, Learn about creating habits with Atomic Habit by James Clear Learn about meditation from Ten Percent Happier Sign up to the 6 Months to Overcoming MS course New to Overcoming MS? Visit our introductory page Connect with others following Overcoming MS on the Live Well Hub Visit the Overcoming MS website Follow us on social media: Facebook Instagram YouTube Pinterest Don’t miss out:Subscribe to this podcast and never miss an episode. You can catch any episode of Living Well with MS here or on your favourite podcast listening app. If you like Living Well with MS, please leave a 5-star review on Apple Podcasts or wherever you tune into the show. Feel free to share your comments and suggestions for future guests and episode topics by emailing [email protected].
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Welcome to Living Well with MS, where we are pleased to welcome Jane and Ian Airey-Regardsoe as our guests! Jane is a member of the Southwest, UK Circle and her husband, Ian is cycling to France as a fundraising challenge, supported by Jane, to benefit Overcoming MS. They chat about adopting the Overcoming MS Program as a couple, their fundraising challenge and why they’ve chosen to support the charity.
Watch this episode on YouTube here.
Topics and Timestamps:01:22 Jane’s MS diagnosis and Overcoming MS journey.
06:49 Adopting the Overcoming MS Program as a partner.
10:08 Tips for adopting the Overcoming MS Program.
11:17 How to improve low vitamin D levels.
14:53 Jane and Ian’s ‘Door to Door cycle’ fundraiser.
16:56 The impact of raising money for Overcoming MS.
18:24 How to prepare for a physical challenge.
24:03 Tips for starting your own fundraising efforts.
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More info and links: Door to Door Challenge Facts: Date: 8th to 27th September Distance: 950 miles (1,564 km) Total Ascent: 59,000 ft Total Descent: 46,400 ft Route: Holcombe Rogus, Poole, Normandy, Britanny, The Loire, Poitou-Charentes, Limousin, Midi Pyrenees View the route here Contribute to Jane and Ian’s fundraising page Follow Jane and Ian’s blog New to Overcoming MS? Visit our introductory page Connect with others following Overcoming MS on the Live Well Hub Visit the Overcoming MS website Follow us on social media: Facebook Instagram YouTube Pinterest Don’t miss out:Subscribe to this podcast and never miss an episode. Listen to our archive of Living Well with MS episodes here. If you like Living Well with MS, please leave a 5-star review.
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Welcome to Living Well with MS, where we are pleased to welcome Rachel Burn as our guest! Rachel is a Psychotherapeutic Counsellor and follows the Overcoming MS Program. In this episode, Rachel talks to Geoff about who should work with a therapist, how to choose a therapist, how to unpack our emotions and how to know if you’re a highly sensitive person.
Watch this episode on YouTube here. Keep reading for the key episode takeaways.
Topics and Timestamps:01:46 Rachel’s background and her MS and Overcoming MS journey.
08:14 Who should work with a therapist?
09:49 How you should choose a therapist and style of therapy.
12:27 How to unpack your emotions scientifically as waves of chemicals.
16:06 Unhelpful tactics of clinging to emotions or suppressing them.
19:29 The connection with highly sensitive people (HSPs) and autoimmunity.
21:43 How to know if you’re highly sensitive.
26:05 The power of the Overcoming MS community for the newly diagnosed.
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More info and links: Connect with Rachel on the Live Well Hub Follow Rachel on TikTok @born_a_bodymind Listen to Craig Hassed’s episode on meditation tipsFind out more about the books that Rachel mentions:
Gabor Mate’s book When the Body Says No Elaine Aron’s book The Highly Sensitive Person Bessel van Der Kolk’s book The Body Keeps The Score Susan Gehrig’s book Why Love Matters Lisa Feldman Barrett’s book: How Emotions Are Made 'Key to Successful Therapy' Read about the 90-second life of an emotion New to Overcoming MS? Visit our introductory page Connect with others following Overcoming MS on the Live Well Hub Visit the Overcoming MS website Follow us on social media: Facebook Instagram YouTube Pinterest Don’t miss out:Subscribe to this podcast and never miss an episode. Listen to our archive of Living Well with MS episodes here. If you like Living Well with MS, please leave a 5-star review.
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Welcome to Living Well with MS, where we are pleased to welcome Bee Grzegorzek (she/they) as our guest! Bee is the Inclusive Communities Manager for UK-based charity, Attitude is Everything, which connects disabled people with music and live event industries to improve access together. They talk to Geoff about making a festival safe and enjoyable, her top tips for finding accessible venues and red flags to look for in a venue’s accessibility.
Watch this episode on YouTube here. Keep reading for the key episode takeaways.
Topics and Timestamps:00:56 Introduction: What is Attitude is Everything?
03:10 Environmental, organisational and attitudinal barriers to access.
05:34 Advances in accessibility in the last 20 years.
07:36 Whose responsibility is it to educate people about accessibility?
08:57 Bee’s top tips for finding accessible venues.
10:49 Red flags to look for when asking about a venue’s accessibility.
15:13 What to do if there’s an accessibility problem during an event.
17:52 Bee’s recommendations for making a festival as safe and fun as possible.
21:51 How to navigate food at venues with dietary requirements.
23:50 The benefits of accessibility scheme cards.
25:21 Personal assistant tickets.
26:38 Helping disabled artists get their access needs met.
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More info and links: UK Access Card Hynt Scheme for Welsh access MS Society “I have MS” card for access needs Visit Attitude is Everything’s website Overcoming MS chef cards for dietary needs New to Overcoming MS? Visit our introductory page Connect with others following Overcoming MS on the Live Well Hub Visit the Overcoming MS website Follow us on social media: Facebook Instagram YouTube Pinterest Don’t miss out:Subscribe to this podcast and never miss an episode. Listen to our archive of Living Well with MS episodes here. If you like Living Well with MS, please leave a 5-star review.
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Welcome to Living Well with MS, where we explore topics relating to living a full and healthy life with multiple sclerosis.
In this episode, we are pleased to welcome Dr Fraser Quin as our guest! Dr Quin is the Executive Director of the British Society of Lifestyle Medicine (BSLM), a charity that promotes the role of lifestyle medicine in improving people’s health and wellbeing. He speaks to Dr Jonathan White about the role of lifestyle medicine for people with MS, the importance of sleep and how healthcare professionals are training to support their patients with lifestyle medicine.
Topics and Timestamps00:00 Dr Quin’s background and role at the British Society of Lifestyle Medicine (BSLM).
04:02 What is lifestyle medicine? And what isn’t lifestyle medicine?
07:02 The role of the BSLM in the healthcare landscape.
10:28 The history and future of lifestyle medicine across the globe.
16:08 Why sleep is such an important pillar of lifestyle medicine.
20:28 How doctors are being trained in lifestyle medicine.
29:27 The #1Change Campaign: How making one small healthy change can change your life.
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More info and links: Learn more about the British Society of Lifestyle Medicine Find out more about the Royal College of General Practitioners (RCGP) Find out more about the Royal College of Psychiatrists Watch back our livestream on talking to skeptics with Dr Jonathan White and Yasmin Neves Learn more about the #1Change campaign Learn about creating habits with Atomic Habit by James Clear Sign up to the 6 Months to Overcoming MS course New to Overcoming MS? Visit our introductory page Connect with others following Overcoming MS on the Live Well Hub Visit the Overcoming MS website Follow us on social media: Facebook Instagram YouTube Pinterest Dr Quin’s bio: Dr Quin’s careerDr Fraser Quin is the Executive Director of the British Society of Lifestyle Medicine, European Lifestyle Medicine Council and World Lifestyle Medicine Organisation.
Fraser is currently a Non-Executive Director of Ark Housing Association and was previously Chair of Deaf Action, Scotland’s largest Deaf charity.
His academic backgroundFraser also has a background in higher education and was formerly a Senior Lecturer in Environmental Economics, completing his PhD at Edinburgh University.
His personal lifeFraser is a strong advocate for Lifestyle Medicine and is in his own words “living the dream” as a keen cyclist, with his type 2 diabetes currently in remission.
He is also an avid motorcyclist and regularly tours Europe and the UK on his Triumph.
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In this episode, we’re sharing highlights from our webinar ‘Accessible Movement for the Overcoming MS Community’ with Dr Véronique Gauthier-Simmons. Véronique is a qualified yoga therapist who follows the Overcoming MS Program and supports Overcoming MS as a facilitator. She discusses the benefits of exercise, how to make it more accessible and how to stay motivated.
Watch this episode on YouTube here. Keep reading for the key episode takeaways.
Topics and Timestamps:01:01 The benefits of exercise.
07:09 How you can set SMART goals to stay motivated to exercise.
12:40 How you can modify physical activity for your ability and balance.
15:14 Breathing exercises to work your core muscles.
20:46 Examples of chair-based exercises for the arms, legs and spine.
29:15 Your intention can change how an exercise feels in your body.
34:20 Dopamine release doesn’t occur until six weeks into a new exercise routine, so don’t give up!
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More info and links: Watch the original webinar Read: The Joy of Movement by Kelly McGonigal Find out more about Veronique’s movement classes Try an Overcoming MS exercise video Join Veronique's free live classes Learn more about Veronique New to Overcoming MS? Visit our introductory page Connect with others following Overcoming MS on the Live Well Hub Visit the Overcoming MS website Follow us on social media: Facebook Instagram YouTube Pinterest Don’t miss out:Subscribe to this podcast and never miss an episode. Listen to our archive of Living Well with MS episodes here. If you like Living Well with MS, please leave a 5-star review.
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Welcome to Living Well with MS, where we are pleased to welcome Kim Venter as our guest! Kim is a trained teacher, professional psychological counsellor, and nutritional consultant. She is also currently training to become a facilitator for Overcoming MS. In this episode, she discusses how to switch to a plant-based diet, how to make your healthy habits stick and her experience starting disease-modifying therapy.
Watch this episode on YouTube here. Keep reading for the key episode takeaways.
Topics and Timestamps:01:04 Kim’s diagnosis and MS journey
06:45 Switching to a plant-based diet.
07:38 Top tips on meal planning and grocery shopping on the Overcoming MS diet.
10:08 Making your healthy habits stick.
13:09 Mindful activities you can do to manage your stress.
15:09 Her experience with disease-modifying therapy.
17:23 How diet and pharmaceuticals complement each other.
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Kim’s bio:Kim Venter is a British South African currently living in London who was diagnosed with MS in 2010.
Kim’s professional backgroundShe is a trained teacher, professional psychological counsellor and nutritional consultant who thoroughly enjoys working with people and helping them overcome various challenges in their lives.
Kim is particularly interested in health psychology, which explores the impact on the mind of what is going on in the body. She feels that this training has increased her awareness of the psychological impact MS has and how the food we eat affects the health of our minds.
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In this episode, we are sharing highlights from our webinar, ‘Your opportunity to ask a qualified nutritional therapist about the Overcoming MS diet’ with Sam Josephs. Sam is a qualified nutritional therapist and Overcoming MS facilitator. In this episode, she discusses fasting patterns, tips for Overcoming MS-friendly meals on a budget and how to prevent weight loss.
Keep reading for the key episode takeaways.
Topics and Timestamps:02:40 Can fasting help you reduce inflammation?
05:58 How much calcium is safe for you with high doses of vitamin D3?
08:11 Comparing benefits: flax oil supplements vs Omega-3 rich foods.
09:40 Can you have coconut or meat in the absence of Overcoming MS-friendly options?
11:25 Vitamin D2 vs D3 in fortified foods.
13:40 The link between eating dairy and osteoporosis.
16:48 The different types of saturated fats.
19:11 Can you ever eat fast food or processed foods?
22:12 Can you eat egg yolk or meat occasionally?
25:59 How much vitamin K should you have to prevent calcium buildup?
27:16 Is there a limit to the number of egg whites you can eat?
28:18 Can you eat lean meat on the Overcoming MS diet when trying to put on weight?
30:12 What minerals can you take to help with spasticity and tight muscles?
21:46 Tips for cooking Overcoming MS-friendly meals with a busy schedule.
36:48 Snacks to help you prevent weight loss on the Overcoming MS diet.
40:23 Alternatives to flax oil for Omega-3 supplementation
41:59 The benefits of a variety of whole grains for your gut bacteria
44:20 Budget tips for cooking Overcoming MS-friendly meals
Selected Key Takeaways:Highly processed foods have negative health implications.
20:11 “Highly processed foods sometimes irritate the gut lining, which can affect our friendly bacterial populations. We're only just starting to understand the detrimental effects of some of these unknown food chemicals, not to mention high levels of salt, and high levels of sugar, all of which on a metabolic level are not good for us. Salt can cause excretion of calcium, which we're trying to retain. The sugars can cause metabolic issues, things like becoming overweight and obese.”
A variety of whole grains is beneficial for the gut.
42:35 “It’s important not to rely too heavily on one grain or another. But to keep that variety because each grain has a different nutritional profile and will be broken down differently in the body. The more variety you have with your grains, the more you're encouraging healthy bacteria which indirectly calms MS activity so think about different rice: what about wild rice [or] the red rice? What about buckwheat? Have you tried quinoa yet?”
There are multiple intermittent fasting methods to suit your lifestyle.
03:05 “Some people do the five-two diet, which involves eating normally five days of the week, and then just eating dinner on two days of the week, consuming much lower calories. You could fast overnight for 16 hours and then eat your food in a much smaller window of eight hours. It could be done as a water fast where you don't eat anything at all, and just drink water one day a week or a couple of days a month.”
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More info and links: Sam Josephs has been featured on S1E3, S1E4, and S5E8 Check out Overcoming MS-friendly recipes Create your Overcoming MS Meal Plan Read Sam’s bio New to Overcoming MS? Visit our introductory page Connect with others following Overcoming MS on the Live Well Hub Visit the Overcoming MS website Follow us on social media: Facebook Instagram YouTube Pinterest Don’t miss out:Subscribe to this podcast and never miss an episode. Listen to our archive of Living Well with MS episodes here. If you like Living Well with MS, please leave a 5-star review.
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Welcome to Living Well with MS, where we are pleased to welcome Sue Tibbles as our guest! Sue is an MS nurse and Overcoming MS facilitator who follows the Program. She is a qualified mindfulness teacher with a Master’s in Mindfulness from the University of Aberdeen. In this episode, she discusses tips for setting up a mindfulness practice, the role of stress and MS and shares some different mindfulness practices.
Watch this episode on YouTube here. Keep reading for the key episode takeaways.
Topics and Timestamps:01:19 Sue’s stress-related MS diagnosis.
05:59 Navigating the difficulties of starting a mindfulness practice.
09:24 Effective ways you can settle the mind.
10:54 Practical tips for setting up your own mindfulness practice.
13:05 The role of an MS Nurse.
16:23 How to talk to your healthcare provider about the Overcoming MS Program.
18:52 Tips for when you are newly diagnosed or new to the Program.
24:51 The impact of stress in MS flares.
30:21 Formal vs informal mindfulness practices.
Selected Key Takeaways:Don't stress if your healthcare professional initially dismisses the Overcoming MS Program
17:03 “I think it's a really nice opportunity for you to be able to teach [your healthcare professional about the Program]. If you come across resistance from them, I don't think there's an awful lot of point in becoming resentful about that. That's not going to achieve anything at the end of the day. There is lots of support within [the] Overcoming MS [community], if you're not getting it from your MS nurse or your neurologist. Although I think a lot of healthcare professionals are becoming better at being open about these things.”
We can’t control what’s going on outside of us, but we can control our response to it
24:51 “I will regularly say to my patients, 'We can't change what's going on outside of us, we can't change that stressful situation at work, we can't change the builders coming in and messing up. We can't change any of that, but we can change our response to it.’ That's what we need to work on, and mindfulness helps with that.”
There are no downsides to following the Overcoming MS Program
34:30 “When I was first diagnosed and discovered the Program, I remember thinking to myself, ‘What have I got to lose? By eating a bit more healthily, doing a bit more exercise, [and] doing a bit of mindfulness, what have I got to lose? What is there to gain?’”
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More info and links: Read the Overcoming Multiple Sclerosis book Learn more about Professor Jelinek’s story Listen to S5E13 Meditation tips with Professor Craig Hassed Find out more about the Overcoming MS Pop-up Tour in 2024 Check out one of our guided meditations Read Sue’s bio New to Overcoming MS? Visit our introductory page Connect with others following Overcoming MS on the Live Well Hub Visit the Overcoming MS website Follow us on social media: Facebook Instagram YouTube Pinterest Don’t miss out:Subscribe to this podcast and never miss an episode. Listen to our archive of Living Well with MS episodes here. If you like Living Well with MS, please leave a 5-star review.
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Welcome to Living Well with MS, where we are pleased to welcome Dr Stefano Pluchino as our guest! Dr Pluchino is a Professor of Regenerative Neuroimmunology at Cambridge University and has been researching stem cell therapy for progressive MS. In this episode, Dr Pluchino speaks to Geoff about what advanced cell therapy is, the success of his phase one trial and what the future of DMTs looks like indicating what people with MS may experience.
Watch this episode on YouTube here. Keep reading for the key episode takeaways.
Topics and Timestamps:01:31 Dr Pluchino’s background and research into stem cell therapy for progressive MS.
02:52 The difference between types of MS.
05:09 Navigating DMT options for progressive MS.
08:40 Dr Pluchino’s advanced cell therapy research trial: The success of phase one and plans for phase two.
21:05 How advanced cell therapy compares to HSCT or bone marrow transplants.
26:02 What it means for the future of DMTs.
33:39 How you can be part of groundbreaking MS research and trials.
Selected Key Takeaways:There are nuances in types of MS beyond ‘relapsing’ or ‘progressive’.
04:23 "It is becoming more complex between active and non-active types of primary and secondary progressive MS where activity is attributed to other episodes. Clinical episodes of disease or radiologically evident episodes of disease, which can be identified by the use of contrast agents at the time of the MRI. So, they are very complex very heterogenous types of disease, with or without activity, which inevitably undergo accumulation of neurological deficits.”
The next generation of DMTs will target progression rather than relapses.
06:39 “What's becoming very interesting is that [over the last] few years, there is a general worldwide consensus that progressive MS is becoming and has become a clinical unmet need. The old MS world is concentrating on financing, funding and efforts towards stopping MS through the development of a new generation of DMDs which will eventually target progression rather than relapses.”
The future of advanced cell therapy research will look at remyelination, reduction of inflammation and neuroprotection.
19:10 "There is space for assessing whether a proportion of the injected cells [can] differentiate in vivo into new myelin-forming cells. There is a space to assess whether some of the cells [can] increase the survival of neurons in the brain. There is space to assess whether the transplanted cells [can] reduce the type of inflammation which characterises progressive MS, which is what we call a smouldering inflammation.
These highly diffuse homogeneous, low-level activations of microglia (immune cells of the central nervous system) and astrocytes (star-shaped cells that hold nerve cells in place) might be reduced by means of advanced cell therapy and the reason why I am specifically alluding to these three major biological mechanisms of disease, remyelination, reduction of inflammation and neuroprotection is because we have managed to identify each of these mechanisms in clinically relevant animal disease models in the last 25 years. So, there is [an] expectation that a clinical trial designed in a way that will allow us to establish the efficacy of the treatment will reveal what we have established already in one of these models.”
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More info and links: Video on Early-stage stem cell therapy trial shows promise for treating progressive MS Dr Pluchino’s website Dr Pluchino’s bio If you have progressive MS you may be eligible for the Octopus trial Learn about HSCT from Professor Richard Burt in Season 5 Episode 25 Read about the Shinya Yamanaka and John Gurdon’a Nobel Winning iPSC technology Find out more about the latest research in progressive MS from the International Progressive MS Alliance New to Overcoming MS? Visit our introductory page Connect with others following Overcoming MS on the Live Well Hub Visit the Overcoming MS website Follow us on social media: Facebook Instagram YouTube Pinterest Don’t miss out:Subscribe to this podcast and never miss an episode. Listen to our archive of Living Well with MS episodes here. If you like Living Well with MS, please leave a 5-star review.
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Welcome to Living Well with MS, where we are pleased to welcome Laura Crowder as our guest! Laura is a health coach and recently joined the Overcoming MS team as an Overcoming MS facilitator. In this episode, she talks to Geoff about what the ‘Change your life for life’ pillar means, how to make lifestyle changes easier to adopt and the importance of looking at your overall lifestyle.
Watch this episode on YouTube here. Keep reading for the key episode takeaways.
Topics and Timestamps:01:02 Intro: Laura’s MS diagnosis.
02:08 Laura’s new role as an Overcoming MS facilitator.
03:48 Change your life, for life: What it means and how you can implement it.
08:18 How finding your deep ‘why’ makes lifestyle changes easier to adopt.
13:40 How you can feel empowered by following the Overcoming MS Program.
15:28 The impact of reducing alcohol on your physical and mental health.
25:48 What it means to feed the soul and the body.
Selected Key Takeaways:Positive lifestyle changes can have immediate health effects.
05:08 “The minute I read [the Program was] evidence based, I thought, ‘I've got to read this.’ I read the entire book, and I jumped straight in. I implemented the diet and the vitamin D straight away, I couldn't do much about the exercise at the time, because I was still off my feet. Eventually, I started walking and then running. It was brilliant. I felt the effects instantly, I think because my previous lifestyle was so poor.”
Some people find reducing alcohol consumption can have a positive impact on mental and physical health.
17:05 “Karen Law speaks about this in the Overcoming MS Handbook about how she just noticed that her stress response was better without alcohol in the mix. I think that was probably quite a significant part for me as well. My running improved hugely, I actually completed my first marathon last year, and just my health in general [improved]. So, for me, I decided that I didn't want to start drinking again.”
Our health is impacted by our overall lifestyle.
27:00 “Our health is not just what we eat, it isn't just exercise [or] supplementation. Things like our career, relationships and finances, these aspects of our lives are so important in terms of nourishing us. If we're dealing with conflict or unresolved issues, or if we have got very destructive or negative relationships in our lives, that's going to have a really adverse effect on our health, even if we're eating all the superfoods in the world.”
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More info and links: Check out our upcoming Overcoming MS events Read the ‘Change Your Life for Life’ chapter in the Overcoming MS book or the Overcoming MS Handbook Watch charity founder Linda Bloom’s story of hope Find out more about spiritual and health teacher Caroline Myss Read Laura’s bio New to Overcoming MS? Visit our introductory page Connect with others following Overcoming MS on the Live Well Hub Visit the Overcoming MS website Follow us on social media: Facebook Instagram YouTube Pinterest Don’t miss out:Subscribe to this podcast and never miss an episode. Listen to our archive of Living Well with MS episodes here. If you like Living Well with MS, please leave a 5-star review.
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In this episode, we are sharing highlights from our webinar, ‘Mental Health and Wellbeing’ with Michelle Overton. Michelle is a qualified counsellor and Mental Health First Aid Instructor Trainer. She discusses the impact of life’s challenges on your mental health, coping mechanisms for stress and her top self-care tips.
You can watch the original webinar here. Keep reading for the key episode takeaways.
Topics and Timestamps:01:03 Michelle shares her own mental health journey.
06:05 How does mental health shape your self-esteem and confidence?
08:27 The impact of life's challenges on your mental wellbeing.
11:00 Stress and how it can affect your DNA.
13:53 Shifting from unhealthy to healthy coping mechanisms.
19:14 Michelle’s top self-care tips for improving your mental health.
24:02 The power of listening.
25:46 How you can find ways to improve sleep and mindful practices.
Selected Key Takeaways:Mental health impacts many aspects of life.
07:01 “Confidence can be gauged in new situations [by] learning new skills [or] it could be in a workplace. Self-esteem is how you value yourself on the inside. Our mental health will govern how we feel, how we think, how we behave and how we manage change. It will [also] govern how we make, sustain and end relationships.”
Stress can impact our physical health.
10:35 “After you've been experiencing stress for more than two weeks, your body will start to kick out hormones. Your double helix is your DNA and at the bottom of it, you've got the bottom of your shoelace strings that keep it together at the bottom, when the hormones are being kicked out from the stress, what happens is the shoe lay strings get corroded, and it comes undone. And this is when we start to get rogue DNA going around. And that's why it's been linked to being carcinogenic."
Find what works for you and your mental health.
25:52 “It's finding what's right for you. I find talking has been a really helpful space for me, whether that's in therapy, or whether it's support services. Making sure that you're hydrated as well. Water can be a very simple thing that can really help instantly.”
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More info and links: Watch the original webinar 5 Ways to Wellbeing from Mind Follow Michelle on social media on LinkedIn or Instagram Read Michelle’s bio Study: Effects on DNA Damage and/or Repair Processes as Biological Mechanisms Linking Psychological Stress to Cancer Risk New to Overcoming MS? Visit our introductory page Join a Circle and connect with others following Overcoming MS on the Live Well Hub Visit the Overcoming MS website Follow us on social media: Facebook Instagram YouTube Pinterest Don’t miss out:Subscribe to this podcast and never miss an episode. Listen to our archive of Living Well with MS episodes here. If you like Living Well with MS, please leave a 5-star review.
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Welcome to Living Well with MS, where we are pleased to welcome Yasmin Neves as our guest! Yasmin is an HR professional and recently joined the Overcoming MS team as a facilitator through our ‘Train the Trainer’ programme. In this episode, she talks to Geoff about topics to help you with your work: navigating work with MS, how to talk to your employer about your MS, taking time off work for MS and the pros and cons of being self-employed after an MS diagnosis.
Watch this episode on YouTube here. Keep reading for the key episode takeaways.
Topics and Timestamps:01:11 Intro: Yasmin’s MS journey.
04:10 Yasmin's new role as an Overcoming MS facilitator.
08:14 Navigating your work with MS: when and how you share your diagnosis with your employer.
13:40 Job interviews and MS: should you disclose or not disclose?
18:50 Taking time off or leaving work with MS: practical considerations for you to think about.
26:32 Self-employment after an MS diagnosis: weighing up the pros and cons.
Selected Key Takeaways:All the adjustments you can ask your workplace for.
17:23 “In terms of adjustments whilst you're at work, it could be adjusting your working hours, it could be adjusting to working from home more or working at a different location. It could be changing your setup or how you sit on a chair or at your desk. The list is endless. They have to be tailored to your MS, how your symptoms affect you and what is needed as [part of the] job. It's all about making sure that you are given the support for you and your role.”
Keeping motivated and having a purpose when taking time out of work.
19:46 “How are you going to feel if suddenly you've got a whole year off? How are you then going to find your purpose? How are you going to keep motivated without having that thing in your life that maybe was once important? That can go either way.”
Weighing up the pros and cons of working for yourself.
28:21 “Work-life balance is very important to me because I'm my own boss, I can decide my own diary. There are obviously cons because I don't get things like sickness benefits, which might be quite helpful with a condition like MS. But then I do get other perks, like I can decide who I work with. Stress is so important with this condition, if there is a client or a project that doesn't quite align with my purpose and it causes me stress, I'm fortunate enough that I can say actually, this isn't for me, and I can turn it away.”
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More info and links: Listen to Yasmin's previous episode on the Living Well with MS podcast Want to adopt the Overcoming MS program over 6 months like Yasmin did? Get started on the 6 Months to Overcoming MS course on the Live Well Hub Check out all of the Overcoming MS books Sunflower Lanyard scheme for hidden disabilities Read Yasmin’s bio New to Overcoming MS? Visit our introductory page Connect with others following Overcoming MS on the Live Well Hub Visit the Overcoming MS website Follow us on social media: Facebook Instagram YouTube Pinterest Don’t miss out:Subscribe to this podcast and never miss an episode. Listen to our archive of Living Well with MS episodes here. If you like Living Well with MS, please leave a 5-star review.
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