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Today, Hunter is joined once again by University of Michigan Professor of Law Eve Primus. So far, Eve and Hunter have discussed Public Defender Systems, Structures, and how Law Schools can do better at getting students interested in Public Defense. However, todayâs conversation is focused on her upcoming law review article about how courts around the country have eroded the famous Miranda warnings and what we can do about it.
Guests:
Eve Primus, Professor of Law, University of Michigan
Resources:
The State[s] of Confession Law in a Post-Miranda World: https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=4742148
The Future of Confession Law: Toward Rules for the Voluntariness Test: https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2540302
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Today, Hunter is joined Lucian Dervan, Professor of Law and Director of Criminal Justice Studies at Belmont College and Founding Director of the Plea Bargaining Institute. For more than a decade, Lucian has been at the forefront of uncovering the troubling issues with Americaâs plea deal driven criminal legal system. Lucian founded the Plea Bargaining Institute in order to bring together the latest and greatest research and caselaw on plea bargaining to help people challenge our plea bargaining system.
Guests:
Lucian Dervan, Professor of Law and Director of Criminal Justice Studies, Belmont College of Law, Founding Director of the Plea Bargaining Institute
Resources:
Plea Bargaining Institute
https://pleabargaininginstitute.com/
Brady v US
https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/397/742/
Lucianâs Faculty Page
https://www.belmont.edu/profiles/lucian-dervan/
14 Principles of Plea Bargaining
https://www.americanbar.org/groups/criminal_justice/publications/criminal-justice-magazine/2024/winter/fourteen-principles-path-forward-plea-bargaining-reform/
Plea Bargaining Study
https://scholarlycommons.law.northwestern.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1000&context=jclc
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Today, Hunter is joined by another amazing guest from the Wren Collective, Adrienne Johnson. Todayâs conversation is about their report on Public Defense in Gwinnet County, Georgia. While there is a state wide Public Defender in Georgia, Gwinnet County has been able to maintain its independence from the state system. If Public Defenderâs in Gwinnett County want to maintain that independence, it is essential that they address some of the glaring problems in Public Defense that this report exposed.
Guests:
Adrienne Johnson, Senior Counsel, Wren Collective
Resources:
Read the Report Here
https://www.wrencollective.org/_files/ugd/8fe8f0_ff1ad77fe24b47db9bb6fef98d6aad47.pdf
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Today, Hunter is joined once again by Justice Text Co-Founder Devshi Mehrotra to discuss how Justice Text is helping Public Defender Officeâs enter the digital era. This time, Devshi brought Elisabeth Pollock, Chief of the Champaign IL Public Defender Office, to talk about the serious digital overhaul Elisabeth undertook once she took charge of the office. Coming from the federal system, Elisabeth was used to a fully digital system, so it came as quiet a shock when Elisabeth realized that her new office in Champaign County was a completely paper-based system. Thankfully with the help of Justice Text, Elisabeth was able to quickly digitize the office and finally start analysing the countless hours of body camera generated by their cases.
Guests:
Elisabeth Pollock, Chief Public Defender, Champaign County, Illinois
Devshi Mehrotra, Co-Founder, Justice Text
Resources:
Justice Text
https://justicetext.com/
Chicago Appleseed Fair Trial
https://www.chicagoappleseed.org/
Elisabeth Contact
https://www.linkedin.com/in/elisabeth-pollock-38377110/
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Today, Hunter is joined once again by Patricia Warth, Director of the NY Office of Indigent Legal Services. This time, Hunter and Patricia discuss the in the weeds budget moves that are threatening vital programs in New York Public Defense. Specifically, they talk about the failing family court system and how a sweep up of funds may endanger an already struggling practice.
Guests:
Patricia Warth, Director, New York Office of Indigent Legal Services
Resources:
Coverage of the Fund Sweep Up
https://brooklyneagle.com/articles/2024/03/22/legal-advocates-oppose-234m-funding-cut-from-public-defense/
https://www.nylpi.org/resource/ilsf-sweep-organization-sign-on-letter-3-21-24/
https://nysba.org/nysba-supports-funding-of-the-indigent-legal-services-fund/
ILS Website
https://www.ils.ny.gov/node/7/ils-office
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Today, Hunter is joined by the newest State Public Defender of California, Galit Lipa. As discussed on previous episodes, California has a county based public defender system. As such, Galit and her office sit in a limited role to help train public defenders around the state. Following a law suit and several reports highlighting the failings of public defense in California, Galit and her team could prove to be a pivotal voice in rethinking the delivery of California public defense.
Guests:
Galit Lipa, State Public Defender, California Office of the State Public Defender
Resources:
Contact Galit
https://www.linkedin.com/in/galit-lipa/
OSPD
https://www.ospd.ca.gov/
https://www.ospd.ca.gov/ospd-sharepoint-pages/
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Today, Hunter is joined by Molly Gilbert and Jason Schwarz to discuss the plan to implement Public Defender workload standards across the state of Washington. Despite not being a centralized Public Defender system, the Public Defenders of Washington, spurred by the State Supreme Court, figured out how to work with the state bar to get workload standards. As they sit on the verge of getting enforceable standards approved by the State Supreme Court, Hunter, Molly, and Jason explore how these workload standards came to be and what other states can learn from this process.
Guests:
Molly Gilbert, Investigator and Union President, Department of Public Defense, King County Washington
Jason Schwarz, Director, Snohomish County, Washington
Resources:
News Coverage of New Workload Standards
https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/washington-bar-approves-much-lower-caseloads-for-public-defenders/
https://www.king5.com/article/news/state/plan-ease-caseloads-public-defenders-bankrupt-some-counties/281-b67dcd4b-fe19-4608-ade5-4c297f29e0b4
https://www.wsba.org/connect-serve/committees-boards-other-groups/council-public-defense
Publicola- New Caseload Standards Aim to Improve Ailing Public Defense System, But Could Take a Bite Out of County Budget
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WSBA Meeting
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Today, Hunter is joined by Taylor Herbert, a Public Defender in Lan County Oregon to discuss civil commitment. As is often talked about on the show, the divide between the civil and criminal legal system is far smaller than many are willing to admit. Civil commitment is the process by which a person can be confined in a mental health facility against their will. Unlike a criminal process, which does not allow for you to be deprived of liberty unless youâve been proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt, civil commitment allows for a deprivation of liberty after only reaching clear and convincing evidentiary standard. Why is this an issue? Why do we allow? What are the failings of civil commitment in Oregon? All that and more on this episode!
Guests:
Taylor Herbert, Staff Attorney, Mental Health Division, Public Defender Services of Lane County, Oregon
Resources:
ORS 426-427
https://www.oregonlegislature.gov/bills_laws/ors/ors426.html
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Today, Hunter is joined once again by Public Interest lawyer Stephen Hanlon. This time, Hunter and Stephen are breaking down the five year plan that he hopes will fix Public Defense in Oregon. While it is surely an ambitious plan, this plan gives urges public defenders to do all that they can to force the powers that be to take the crisis seriously: case withdrawals.
Guests:
Stephen Hanlon, Public Interest Lawyer
Resources:
Oregon Report 5 Year Plan
https://www.opb.org/article/2024/03/21/oregon-public-defense-report-more-attorneys/
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Today, Hunter is once again joined by Lee Wachocki, a Public Defender and union leader in Portland, Oregon. As the Public Defender crisis continues in the state, this week is about figuring out how the state is responding. At the front line level, Lee reveals that little has functionally changed at his level to demonstrate the state is close to solving the problem. In fact, with Oregon recriminalizing drug possession, the state appears primed to super charge the issue.
Guests:
Lee Wachocki, Public Defender, Multnomah County
Resources:
Multnomah County DA Debate
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wehZ548c-OY
DA Schmidt Endorsing Recriminalization
Mike Schmidt Endorses Proposal to Recriminalize Hard Drugs (wweek.com)
Bad Reporting on Public Defender Caseload
Record Number of People Face Criminal Charges in Multnomah County With No Defense Attorney (wweek.com)
Impacts of Recriminalization
https://www.axios.com/local/portland/2024/03/19/public-defender-crisis-recriminalization-oregon
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Today, Hunter is joined Professor Robin Bernstein to discuss her newest book, Freeman's Challenge: The Murder that Shook America's Original Prison for Profit. When many of us think of the for-profit prisons, we think of the post slavery south at places like Parchman. However, that is not where the story started. Today, Robin joins the show to discuss Auburn State Prison and what we can learn from the history of for profit prisons.
Guests:
Robin Bernstein, Dillon Professor of American History and Professor of African and African American Studies and of Studies of Women, Gender, & Sexuality, Harvard University
Resources:
Order the Book Here
https://press.uchicago.edu/ucp/books/book/chicago/F/bo213968137.html
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Today, Hunter is joined by the powerful Dorsey Nunn. At 19, Dorsey was given a life sentence. Over the next 11 years, Dorsey would be exposed to violence, abuse, and the political education that would awaken in him a lifelong desire to fight our prison system. Today, Hunter talks with Dorsey about his new book, What Kind of Bird Canât Fly to discuss his lifetime of organizing for the rights of the current and formerly incarcerated.
Guests:
Dorsey Nunn, Executive Director Legal Services for Prisoners with Children, Co-Founder All of Us or None, Co-Founder Formerly Incarcerated Convicted People and Family Movement
Resources:
Order the Book Here
https://www.amazon.com/What-Kind-Bird-Cant-Fly/dp/1597146323
Legal Services for Prisoners with Children
https://prisonerswithchildren.org/staff-and-board/
All of Us or None
https://prisonerswithchildren.org/about-aouon/
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Today, Hunter is joined once again by Leah Nelson of Alabama Appleseed. This time, they are joined by Callie Greer, a Community Navigator at Appleseed, to discuss Appleseedâs Afterward. This powerful report sought out to hear from victims and survivors of violence. As is often said on the show, the criminal legal system does a poor job of providing for the needs of all survivors of violence. In fact, the system often perpetuates the harm of those who need help following the tragic events in their life. By going to communities across Alabama, Appleseed hoped to capture the voice of so many people who want need more than just a criminal punishment to be made whole.
Guests:
Leah Nelson, Research Director, Alabama Appleseed
Callie Greer, Community Navigator, Alabama Appleseed
Resources:
Read Afterward Here
https://alabamaappleseed.org/afterward/
Alabama Appleseed
https://alabamaappleseed.org/
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Today, Hunter is once again joined by Brett Schandelson, the Director of the Montana Office of the State Public Defender. Last time he was one, we discussed his efforts to make Public Defense policy in Montana driven by data. Today, we discuss how those efforts have drastically turned the state system around. Specifically, Brett details how doing a better job of tracking cases and sticking to a workload standard has reduced turnover and helped retain Public Defenders throughout the state.
Guests:
Brett Schandelson, Director, Montana Office of the State Public Defender
Resources:
Office of the State Public Defender
https://publicdefender.mt.gov/
Agenda-DIBC-12-13-2023.pdf (mt.gov)
61080-OPD-QFR-Dec2023.pdf (mt.gov)
Quick video on the OPD Quarterly Update (at meeting start)
Brettâs presentation 12/13/23 IBC OPD Section
Materials
https://leg.mt.gov/content/Publications/fiscal/2025-Biennium/Section-D/Interim/OPD-Narrative-Response.pdf
https://leg.mt.gov/content/Publications/fiscal/2025-Biennium/Section-D/Interim/OPD-Fees-Assessed-and-Paid.pdfhttps://leg.mt.gov/content/Publications/fiscal/2025-Biennium/Section-D/Interim/OPD-Ethical-Case-Management.pdf
https://leg.mt.gov/content/Publications/fiscal/2025-Biennium/Section-D/Interim/OPD-FTE-Allocation.pdf
https://leg.mt.gov/content/Publications/fiscal/2025-Biennium/Section-D/Interim/OPD-Fees-Assessed-Q1-FY24.pdf
https://leg.mt.gov/content/Publications/fiscal/2025-Biennium/Section-D/Interim/OPD-Contractor-Capital-Hours-Q1-FY24.pdf
https://leg.mt.gov/content/Publications/fiscal/2025-Biennium/Section-D/Interim/OPD-Number-of-Matters-by-FTE-and-Contractors-Q1-FY24.pdf
https://leg.mt.gov/content/Publications/fiscal/2025-Biennium/Section-D/Interim/OPD-Number-of-Matters-Without-MCA-Violations-Q1-FY24.pdf
https://leg.mt.gov/content/Publications/fiscal/2025-Biennium/Section-D/Interim/OPD-Active-Matters-and-Weights-December-7-2023.pdf
https://leg.mt.gov/content/Publications/fiscal/2025-Biennium/Section-D/Interim/OPD-HB-190-Annual-Plan-FY24.pdf
https://leg.mt.gov/content/Publications/fiscal/2025-Biennium/Section-D/Interim/OPD-IBC-Update-Dec2023.pdf
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Today, Hunter sat down with Dr. Shameka Stewart, a juvenile forensic speech language pathologist. While speech language pathologists have long been around, Dr. Stewart is the first person to take the field and apply it to juvenile forensics. The promise of the field was on display as she served as an expert witness for the defense team during the trial of Nikolas Cruz. For those in the criminal defense community, this under utilized forensic science could prove to be one of the most important pieces of evidence against guilt or during mitigation.
Guests:
Dr. Shameka Stewart, Juvenile Forensic Speech Language Pathologist
Resources:
Contact Dr. Stewart
https://www.juvforensicslp.com/
Linkedin
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https://www.instagram.com/drjuvenile_forensicslp/
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Today, Hunter is once again joined by former NACDL President, Martin Sabelli. This time, Hunte and Martin are discussing a memo he put out while President about the Ahmaud Arbery murder trial. In that trial, Martin felt that the defense counsel improperly used racism as a tactic in their defense. Martin put out the memo because he felt that those in the criminal defense community, those who fight against systems of racism aught not use the tools of the very system that actively incarcerates so many of their clients. As such, todayâs episode is all about figuring out where the line is between individual advocacy and fighting systems of oppression.
Guests:
MartĂn Sabelli, Former President, National Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers
Resources:
Link to the Memo
https://www.lawyerlegion.com/associations/criminal-defense/national-nacdl/news/1162/nation-39-s-criminal-defense-bar-opposes-dehumanizing-racist-language-used-in-the-trial-of-the-killing-of-ahmaud-arbery
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Last summer, Hunter spoke with Central Florida criminal defense attorney Andrew Darling to discuss Governor DeSantis removing State Attorney Monique Worrell from office. At the time, Andrew and Hunter expressed their concerns that the primary reason for the removal was due to Worrellâs willingness to prosecute cops. Today, Andrew is back to share how those fears have come to reality. In 2020, Andrewâs client was shot by a cop. Originally, Worrell pursued the case, but with her gone, it took the new State Attorney just under 9 months to drop the case, but for a reason that you have to hear to believe.
Guests:
Andrew Darling, Criminal Defense Attorney, Central Florida
Resources:
Gov DeSantisâ Executive Order Removing State Attorney Monique Worrell
https://www.flgov.com/2023/08/09/governor-ron-desantis-suspends-state-attorney-monique-worrell-for-neglect-of-duty-and-incompetence/
Twitter Thread Explaining the Falsities in Gov DeSantisâ Claims
https://twitter.com/LutherEvers/status/1689672379776073728
Warren v. DeSantis
https://casetext.com/case/warren-v-desantis-1
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Twitter: https://twitter.com/MrDarling4
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mrdarling4/
Darling Law: https://darlinglaw.com/
Orange County Court of Clerks 2023CF003924-A-O
https://www.myorangeclerk.com/
Indictment of Orange County Deputy Bruce Stolk
https://www.clickorlando.com/news/local/2022/04/01/orange-county-deputy-indicted-nearly-2-years-after-shooting-man-during-chase/
https://www.wftv.com/news/local/my-client-is-one-suffering-attorney-says-after-charges-dropped-against-deputy-who-shot-client/XLZ2AE55MVEKHKEWGZDG3PBQKE/
https://www.orlandosentinel.com/2024/03/12/state-attorney-drops-indictment-of-orange-county-deputy-for-2020-shooting-of-unarmed-man/
Prosecution Memo
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1CV_0RjsmVlqpdEvaZd8gNIJR8i0fhrVJ?usp=sharing
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Imagine for a moment, you have been accused of several crimes. At trial, you are found not guilty on all the charges except for one. Letâs say that this is least serious of all your charges. While you wish you had been acquitted on all charges, 5/6 is pretty good. You anticipate a minor sentence, but there is a light at the end of the tunnelâŠ.but then you get to sentencing, and the judge starts saying your sentence is going to be just as severe as it would have if you had been found guilty of everything. How is it possible to get found not guilty but punished anyway? Today, Hunter spoke with criminal defense attorney Andrea Jaeger to discuss how the federal legal system allows for acquitted conduct sentencing.
Guests:
Andrea Jaeger, Criminal Defense Attorney, Iowa
Resources:
U.S. v Watts
https://casetext.com/case/united-states-v-watts
Coverage
https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/LSB/LSB11037
https://www.ussc.gov/about/news/press-releases/december-14-2023
https://reason.com/2023/12/20/sentencing-commission-again-proposes-restricting-judges-use-of-acquitted-conduct/
https://www.grassley.senate.gov/news/news-releases/grassley-durbin-introduce-bipartisan-bicameral-legislation-to-prohibit-punishment-of-acquitted-conduct
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Today, Hunter concludes the three-part series on criminalized domestic violence survivors by speaking with two women who survived, endured years of incarceration, and utilized the DVSJA to get a second chance at life. Trinity Copeland was sentenced to 25 years to life for 2nd degree murder and resentenced to time served and released in March 2023 under the Domestic Violence Survivors Justice Act (DVSJA), after serving approximately 11 years. She is currently a full-time college student majoring in Chinese Studies with a double minor in Spanish and French.
Assia Serrano was sentenced to 18 years to life for felony murder and was resentenced and released in April 2021 under the DVSJA, after serving 17 years. Shortly after, she was deported to Panama where she currently resides. Assia is a member of the Survivors Justice Project Advisory Group and an Osborne Speakers Bureau member who uses her personal experiences to advocate for criminal justice reform. She is a proud mother of two teenagers and a fierce advocate for her own and other children who have experienced parental incarceration.
Through their stories, Hunter hopes for people to understand what our legal system must change to stop perpetuating cycles of harm.
Guests:
Assia Serano, Survivors Justice Project Advisory Group and Osborne Speakers Bureau
Trinity Copeland, Full Time College Student
Resources:
NYILS Website
https://www.ils.ny.gov/
Survivors Justice Project
https://www.sjpny.org/
Background Material on the DVSJA
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Video: Background on DVSJA passage (somewhat dated)· Some Legislative History (attached):
o 2017 sponsor memo
o Opposition letter by District Attorney Association of the State of New York
o NY Correctional Association response to DA opposition letter
· SJP DVSJA Resource Guide â we wrote this with incarcerated survivors/applicants as the primary audience
· SJP/Sentencing Project Report
· Abby Van Buren article on temporal nexus problem
· Favorable decisions:
o Brenda WW decision (âmutually abusiveâ relationship did not foreclose DVSJA relief; abuse history must be considered cumulatively; considered applicantâs extensive criminal history in context of her substance abuse, which was related to victimization)
o Patrice Smith decision (court must look at the âfull pictureâ and contemplate cumulative impact of abuse)
o Liz L. decision (the fact that DV history was âfactored inâ to previous man 1 plea bargain did not make DVSJA resentencing inappropriate)
· Not so favorable:
o People v. Williams (abuse or abusive relationship must be âongoingâ at the time of the offense)
o People v. Fisher (adopting Williamsâ temporal holding in case where trans-identifying young person had assaulted her parents, and no expert was called to attempt to explain connection between earlier physical abuse and offense)
o People v. B.N. (many bad holdings/antiquated approach to DV and trauma)
· People v. Addimando â a study in contrasts (note that Nicole Addimando was finally released from prison last week):
o Trial court decision (denying DVSJA relief at initial sentencing for murder 2 in a case with extensively documented abuse; sentencing Nicole Addimando to 19-to-life)
o Appellate decision (reversing and resentencing her to 7.5 years)
· Critique of the DVSJA by Survived & Punished
Some very optional reading, but good-to-know-about resources created by the DVSJA Statewide Defender Task Force:
· Best Practices Manual for DVSJA Investigations
· Guide to Working with Experts in DVSJA cases
· Introduction Guide to Coercive Control for the DVSJA Attorney
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Today, Hunter continues the three-part series on criminalized domestic violence survivors by speaking with Elizabeth Isaacs, an appellate attorney with New Yorkâs Office of Indigent Legal Services. Specifically, the two discuss the Domestic Violence Survivorâs Justice Act, a New York law designed to give post-relief to those whose incarceration is related to their victimization. While certainly not a perfect bill, it is an extremely important and necessary step to understand that people are not simply victims or perpetrators, and that we can attain justice while also acknowledging the humanity of those who did wrong.
Guests:
Elizabeth Isaacs, Appellate Attorney, NY Office of Indigent Legal Services
Resources:
NYILS Website
https://www.ils.ny.gov/
Survivors Justice Project
https://www.sjpny.org/
Background Material on the DVSJA
·
Video: Background on DVSJA passage (somewhat dated)· Some Legislative History (attached):
o 2017 sponsor memo
o Opposition letter by District Attorney Association of the State of New York
o NY Correctional Association response to DA opposition letter
· SJP DVSJA Resource Guide â we wrote this with incarcerated survivors/applicants as the primary audience
· SJP/Sentencing Project Report
· Abby Van Buren article on temporal nexus problem
· Favorable decisions:
o Brenda WW decision (âmutually abusiveâ relationship did not foreclose DVSJA relief; abuse history must be considered cumulatively; considered applicantâs extensive criminal history in context of her substance abuse, which was related to victimization)
o Patrice Smith decision (court must look at the âfull pictureâ and contemplate cumulative impact of abuse)
o Liz L. decision (the fact that DV history was âfactored inâ to previous man 1 plea bargain did not make DVSJA resentencing inappropriate)
· Not so favorable:
o People v. Williams (abuse or abusive relationship must be âongoingâ at the time of the offense)
o People v. Fisher (adopting Williamsâ temporal holding in case where trans-identifying young person had assaulted her parents, and no expert was called to attempt to explain connection between earlier physical abuse and offense)
o People v. B.N. (many bad holdings/antiquated approach to DV and trauma)
· People v. Addimando â a study in contrasts (note that Nicole Addimando was finally released from prison last week):
o Trial court decision (denying DVSJA relief at initial sentencing for murder 2 in a case with extensively documented abuse; sentencing Nicole Addimando to 19-to-life)
o Appellate decision (reversing and resentencing her to 7.5 years)
· Critique of the DVSJA by Survived & Punished
Some very optional reading, but good-to-know-about resources created by the DVSJA Statewide Defender Task Force:
· Best Practices Manual for DVSJA Investigations
· Guide to Working with Experts in DVSJA cases
· Introduction Guide to Coercive Control for the DVSJA Attorney
Contact Hunter Parnell:
Instagram
@PublicDefenselessPodcast
Twitter
@PDefenselessPod
www.publicdefenseless.com
Subscribe to the Patron
www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast
Donate on PayPal
https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ
Donate on Stripe
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