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In this episode, Russell, Tara, Ben Dowen, and Al Goodall explore end-to-end testing.
Starting with some light-hearted banter on coffee, triggered by Ben.
From what start to what end?
A recurring theme is being clear with what we mean when we say end-to-end
The group reflect on:
Using a term alongside terms like user journey and which userBeing clear about what 'flow' is being testedNot to test everythingIs it a sign of low testability and a smell of somethingIntegrations
Often, these tests cross architecture and boundaries, and check some form of integration
Use the smallest unit of test to validate your goalEnd-to-End tests are expensive - time, effort, fragility, environmentsHelp reduce risk as ownership crosses teams in modern systemsThey find important failures#PeersCon27 (March 11th, 2027) is now LIVE Tickets for the event are live for the Early Bird Price of ÂŁ15 until later in the year.
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In this episode, Chris, Russell, David and Vernon try something a little different. Instead of ranting about the state of the industry, the conversation focuses on optimism, momentum, and the things they are genuinely excited about in 2026.
Reasons to be cheerful
The team reflect on what is giving them energy right now, from community and conference season to new projects, new teammates, and rediscovering enthusiasm after a difficult year.
Growth, curiosity, and intentionality
The conversation explores decisive humility, cautious optimism, and the importance of being intentional in how we work, learn, and grow. There is also discussion around revisiting testing fundamentals, pushing beyond comfort zones, and embracing opportunities to learn in unfamiliar spaces.
Community and connection
The group talk about the importance of conferences, shared experiences, and meeting people through the testing community. They also reflect on the continued growth of the Testing Peers podcast, rotating co-hosts, and the excitement around PeersCon.
Looking ahead
The episode closes with personal goals, side projects, travel plans, theme parks, cars, and the simple joy of having things to look forward to.
This episode explores
Optimism in testing and techCommunity, conferences, and connectionNew teammates and fresh energyDecisive humility and cautious optimismIntentionality and testing fundamentalsPersonal goals, projects, and things to look forward to#PeersCon27 (March 11th, 2027) is now LIVE Tickets for the event are live for the Early Bird Price of ÂŁ15 until November 30th 2027.
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In this episode, hosts Chris Armstrong and Russell Craxford are joined by #PeersCon27 Programme Chairs, Veerle Verhagen and Callum Akehurst-Ryan, to launch the Call for Collaboration.
The conversation introduces the 2027 theme, explores what âquality on the boundariesâ means in practice, and sets clear expectations for submissions. It also reinforces what makes #PeersCon different: real experiences over theory, diverse voices, and a community-first approach to shaping the programme.
Theme
Quality on the Boundaries: Where does quality begin and end, are there lines in testing that we wonât cross?
What does this mean in practice
The theme isnât meant to be interpreted one way.
For some, itâs about the boundaries of the work itself. The systems, the domains, the tooling, the edges where things get unclear or uncomfortable.
For others, itâs about people. The boundaries between roles, between experience levels, between perspectives. Who owns quality, and where that ownership starts to blur.
It might be about pushing forward. Exploring new spaces, new ideas, new ways of working in a landscape that is changing quickly.
Or it might be about limits. The moments where things donât work, where something shouldnât be done, or where youâve had to draw a line.
There isnât a single ârightâ interpretation. Thatâs the point.
What matters is the experience behind it, and what others can learn from it.
What to do next
If youâre listening to this and thinking âIâve got something thereâ⊠you probably do.
This isnât about having the perfect abstract or the most polished idea. Itâs about the things youâve actually lived through. The messy bits, the decisions you made, the times it worked, and the times it didnât.
Maybe youâve pushed into a new space. Maybe youâve been working at the edges of your role. Maybe youâve hit a boundary and had to stop. Maybe youâve crossed one and learned something the hard way.
Thatâs what we want.
And it doesnât need to fit neatly into a box. Talks, workshops, or something a bit different, if youâve got an idea that doesnât quite fit, submit it anyway.
If youâre not a âtesterâ, thatâs fine too. Quality doesnât belong to one role, and neither does this conference.
If youâve never spoken before, thatâs not a blocker. Support is there to help shape your idea and your abstract.
And if youâre thinking âthis might be a bit nicheâ, thatâs okay. Not every talk needs to be for everyone.
So submit. Share your experience. Bring your perspective.
The programme itself is being shaped by a deliberately diverse committee, alongside Veerle and Callum, including Jacob Urantowka, Lisa Crispin, Parveen Khan and Jitesh Gosai.
And if youâre planning to attend, bring someone with you. A colleague, a friend, someone outside your usual circle.
Why #PeersCon exists (and why it matters)
Testing Peers exists because folks were working in isolation, and knew we weren't the only ones.
It grew from a small group of peers looking for connection into something much bigger, but the intent hasnât changed. Itâs still about creating a space where people can share honestly, challenge each other, and learn from real experiences.
Itâs also intentionally accessible. Low cost, community-driven, and designed so people can attend without needing large budgets or corporate backing.
And in a world that is becoming more automated, more distributed, and in some ways more isolating, spaces like this matter more.
Not just for the talks, but for the conversations. The challenges. The different perspectives you donât get day to day.
That only works if people show up.
If you want spaces like this to exist, support them. Submit. Attend. Bring others with you. Be part of it.
Part of that support is partnership.
#PeersCon is run by the community, for the community, but it does
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In this episode, Russell, Chris, Tara, and David explore what a testing consultancy could look like if you stripped it back and built it around values, experience, and honest reflection.
Starting with some light-hearted conference banter, the conversation quickly turns to consultancy models, what works, what does not, and what they would do differently.
Outcomes over outputs
A recurring theme throughout the discussion is the importance of focusing on outcomes rather than outputs.
The group reflect on:
Delivering meaningful change, not just activityAvoiding long-term dependency on consultantsMeasuring success by what happens after you leaveEnablement and sustainability
Rather than doing the work for clients, the conversation leans towards:
Setting up repeatable processesEnabling teams to continue without supportLeaving organisations self-sufficientThe idea of making yourself redundant comes up as a sign of success.
Working with context
The discussion explores how consultants engage with existing client environments:
When to adapt to existing processesWhen to challenge and improve themThe importance of pragmatic, context-informed decisionsThere is no single answer, but a strong emphasis on informed choice and transparency.
Thought leadership vs âbums on seatsâ
The group question traditional consultancy models, particularly:
Staff augmentationLong-running placementsValue tied to time rather than impactInstead, they explore a model centred around:
Short-term, high-impact engagementsStrategic and cultural changeSupporting teams rather than filling rolesFollow-ups, iteration, and lasting change
A key challenge raised is what happens after consultants leave.
The group discuss:
Returning at later checkpointsSupporting incremental changePreventing regression to old habitsThe idea is less one-off transformation, more ongoing iteration.
Consultancy as connection
An alternative model emerges during the conversation:
Acting as a connector of people and expertiseMatching specialists to specific problemsLeveraging community rather than a fixed benchBlurring the line between consultancy, partnership, and network.
Who would this be for?
The group gravitate towards:
Startups and scale-upsOrganisations open to changeTeams looking for guidance, not just deliveryWith less interest in:
Large-scale augmentationTraditional long-term consultancy modelsThis episode explores
What good consultancy looks like in practiceOutcomes vs outputs in client engagementsEnablement and making change stickNavigating client context and constraintsThought leadership vs staff augmentationAlternative consultancy models and community-led approachesReferenced in this episode
Fiona Charles â 10 Commandments for Ethical Testers
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This episode of Testing Peers is published in recognition of International Womenâs Day (8 March).
International Womenâs Day is a global moment to recognise the social, economic, cultural, and political achievements of women, while also highlighting the continued work needed to achieve gender equality. It is also a call to action to accelerate progress and support womenâs advancement around the world.
You can learn more about the campaign and its initiatives at
https://www.internationalwomensday.com/Episode Overview
To mark International Womenâs Day, this episode brings together Linda van de Vooren, Rachel Kibler, Tara Walton, and Christine Pinto for a conversation about their experiences working in software testing and technology.
The discussion ranges from workplace dynamics and technical credibility to confidence, identity, and the importance of supportive communities in tech. Drawing on experiences across different countries, organisations, and career stages, the panel reflect on the challenges and opportunities of working in the industry today. International Women's Day
Episode Highlights
Theme songs for the moment
The episode begins with a bit of Testing Peers banter as the hosts share the song that best represents their current stage of life. From Eye of the Tiger to Crowded Table and even a song from Frozen 2, the choices reflect everything from startup survival mode to building strong personal support networks.
Being a woman in tech
The panel discuss how experiences can vary depending on company culture, geography, and team dynamics. Several hosts reflect on the need to prove technical credibility, particularly in environments where testing already sits in tension with development.
Finding allies
Support within teams can make a real difference. The group share how allies often emerge through one-to-one conversations and how a single supportive voice in a meeting can change how concerns about quality or risk are received.
Competition and the âcrab bucketâ effect
The conversation touches on the crab bucket effect: situations where people unintentionally hold each other back in competitive or unhealthy environments. The group reflect on how workplace pressure and culture can contribute to this dynamic.
Glue work and invisible labour
The panel discuss glue work, the essential tasks that keep teams functioning but often go unnoticed. From meeting notes to coordination, these responsibilities can disproportionately fall to certain people unless teams actively share them.
Identity and personal expression
From purple hair and tiaras to red suits and owl dungarees, the hosts reflect on how personal expression can influence confidence and help people show up authentically at work.
Safety and confidence
The discussion acknowledges that confidence and self-expression depend on feeling safe at work. Moments of inappropriate behaviour or boundary crossing can quickly undermine that safety and require time and support to rebuild.
Continuing the conversation at Agile Testing Days
Towards the end of the discussion, Rachel Kibler highlights an opportunity to continue conversations like these at Agile Testing Days.
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The value of community
The episode closes by reflecting on the strength of the testing community and spaces like Testing Peers, where people can share experiences, offer support, and remind each other they are not alone.
This episode explores
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Welcome to another episode of the Testing Peers podcast.
In this episode, Veerle, Chris, Russell and Tara explore how hobbies influence the way we learn, collaborate and grow within testing and quality engineering.
Before getting into the main topic, the Peers open with some classic banter, covering unusual fruit sizes, strange dreams and the small details that spark curiosity.
The idea for this episode comes from talks and experiences shared within the community, where hobbies such as gaming, storytelling, crafting and sport have inspired lessons that translate into professional practice.
From Vikings and Dungeons & Dragons to pro wrestling, knitting, baking and gym routines, the group reflects on how skills learned outside of work can shape communication, experimentation and continuous improvement. Bring your hobbies to work
In this episode, the Peers discuss
How hobbies help develop storytelling and teamwork skillsSeeing testing opportunities in everyday lifeDifferent personal paths into testing and quality engineeringLearning through experimentation, failure and iterationThe role of data, metrics and context in decision makingGrowth mindsets inspired by fitness, crafting and gamingBringing personality and individuality into technical spacesKey reflections
This episode highlights how hobbies create spaces to experiment, adapt and learn without pressure. Whether journaling gym progress, inventing house rules in games or developing creative skills, these experiences mirror the iterative nature of testing itself.
The Peers also explore how progress is not always visible in the moment. As skills evolve, expectations rise, which can make growth harder to recognise even when it is happening. Bring your hobbies to work
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Hello and welcome to another episode of the Testing Peers podcast. This time, join Chris Armstrong, Rachel Kibler, Tara Walton, and Russell Craxford discussing what it means to create change in teams that are worn down, frustrated, or stuck in longstanding patterns.
In this episode, the Peers talk frame the discussion around practical reflections on joining difficult team contexts, building agency, identifying friction, and shaping improvements that matter without creating burnout.
The group focuses on the difference between technical problems and people or adaptive challenges, the value of curiosity and influence, and the power of small, intentional actions that reduce unnecessary friction and build momentum toward better ways of working.
Key themes and ideas
Teams with history and fatigue
Teams carry context, history, and stories long before new people arrive. What looks like dysfunction to a newcomer may be normalised pain to those who have lived with it. Past failed efforts at change often create deep scepticism.
The âWTF listâ
Rachel introduces the idea of keeping a personal âWTF listâ when joining a new team. This is a record of things that confuse, frustrate, or cause unnecessary pain. It is a tool for reflection, learning what to ask about, and identifying areas for low effort improvements while separating technical fixes from people or adaptive challenges. Some items are best kept for private reflection or manager conversations rather than shared openly.
Technical problems versus people problems
Technical problems usually have known solutions and can be addressed with the right expertise. People problems require influence, trust, and time. Effective change begins by asking why things are done the way they are before assuming what should be done.
The risk of bonding over complaints
Shared frustration can bond people quickly, "trauma bonding", but venting without action often leads to stagnation. Reflection and curiosity help teams ask what could realistically be done differently next time.
Context before action
Change attempts fail when history, constraints, or social dynamics are ignored. Newcomers often see pain points that existing teams have normalised. Without understanding the background, even good ideas can trigger resistance.
Agency, choice, and acceptance
Sometimes, change is not possible in the short term. Actively choosing to accept a situation can be more empowering than feeling trapped by it. Doing nothing can be valid when it is a conscious decision rather than passive resignation.
Small wins and incremental change
Not every improvement has to be dramatic. Small changes that remove friction can build trust and momentum over time. Cultural shifts often start with fixing minor but irritating problems rather than attempting wholesale transformation.
Positivity and recognising progress
Testing roles are often framed negatively, both by others and by the people doing the work. Creating space to acknowledge progress and success helps rebalance that narrative and improves team morale.
Leadership and advocacy
Leadership involves passing feedback upwards and advocating for change even when the leader cannot fix the problem directly. Choosing where to invest influence is an important leadership skill.
Takeaways
You cannot change everything from every position.Context and history matter more than frameworks.Influence is more effective than instruction in people-related challenges.Small, deliberate improvements build momentum for bigger shifts.Conscious acceptance is still a form of agency.Recommended Reading
Your Leadership Edge by Ed OâMalley and Amanda Cebula
A practical guide to the competencies and mindset required when everyone leads and challenges are not straightforward. The book emphasises
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Hello friends, and welcome to another episode of the Testing Peers podcast.
In this episode, Chris, Dan, David, and Russell come together for a wide-ranging conversation about flow, what it really means, and why it matters far beyond speed or delivery metrics. The discussion starts with some light New Year banter before quickly moving into systems thinking, value, and the often unseen friction that slows organisations down.
The group explore flow as something that exists across people, processes, and systems, not just CI/CD pipelines. Using plumbing analogies, real-world examples, and a healthy dose of scepticism about simplistic metrics, they unpack why optimising individual components rarely improves outcomes if the wider system is ignored.
A recurring theme is the idea that quality is about the removal of unnecessary friction, and that debt shows up in many forms, not just code. Documentation, onboarding, learning mechanisms, and organisational processes all contribute to how effectively value moves through a system.
The conversation also touches on how difficult flow is to measure meaningfully. While metrics like DORA can tell part of the story, they often focus on speed rather than outcomes, impact, or sustainability. The hosts discuss the importance of qualitative signals, trending over time, and understanding what good actually looks like in a given context.
A significant part of the episode focuses on the human side of flow, including onboarding, learning, feedback loops, and psychological safety. The group reflect on how better onboarding and clearer purpose can help people contribute sooner, feel more connected to their work, and understand the impact of what they do.
From a testing perspective, the discussion highlights how testers already have many of the skills needed to assess flow at an organisational level. Curiosity, critical thinking, risk awareness, and communication all play a role in identifying friction, asking difficult questions, and helping teams improve. At the same time, the hosts are careful not to position testers as uniquely gifted, recognising that good systems thinking comes from diverse roles working together.
The episode closes with reflections on trust, credibility, and the role of testers as trusted advisors. Being listened to is not about job titles or tools, but about doing the work, understanding the system, and backing up insights with evidence and experience.
Links and references
DORA metrics: https://dora.dev/guides/dora-metrics/The Phoenix Project: https://itrevolution.com/product/the-phoenix-project/Theory of Constraints: https://www.leanproduction.com/theory-of-constraints/Stu Crocker on quality as the removal of unnecessary frictionPost Office Horizon IT Scandal: https://clarotesting.wordpress.com/the-post-office-horizon-it-scandal/#PeersCon26 Tickets for the event are live for just
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Happy New Year, Peers!!
Welcome to the latest episode of the Testing Peers podcast, this time panel explores how testers and quality professionals can make the most of their training budgets, whether that budget is zero, modest, or stretches into several thousand pounds.
Hosts this week: Russell Craxford, David Maynard, Chris Armstrong, and Tara Walton.
The discussion is grounded in real experience and looks at how learning choices change depending on constraints, priorities, and organisational context.
Starting from Zero: Learning Without a Budget
The episode begins by challenging the assumption that learning requires money. The hosts highlight the breadth and quality of free resources available, including:
Blogs, podcasts, and community-driven contentFree learning platforms such as Test Automation University, freeCodeCamp, and edXVendor-provided learning resources from tooling and platform providersA key recommendation is the free âLearning How to Learnâ course by Barbara Oakley and Terrence Sejnowski, which helps people understand how they learn best before deciding where to invest time or money.
Spending Around ÂŁ100: Small Budgets, Real Value
With a budget of around ÂŁ100, the focus shifts to intentional, value-led choices:
Books as a focused, low-distraction way to learn:Subscriptions to learning platforms rather than single coursesPrioritising practical outcomes over certificatesUsing community recommendations to avoid low-quality contentTestSphere and RiskStorming cardsObviously, the Testing Peers Conference, March 12th 2026Books such as Explore It, The Phoenix Project, The Culture Code and other systems thinking titles are highlighted as high-value, low-cost investments.
Around ÂŁ500: Community, Conferences, and Exposure
At the ÂŁ500 level, learning opportunities expand:
Attending local conferences, meetups, or community events Leeds Test Atelier (Free to attend)SIGiSTShipItConCovering travel, accommodation, and tickets for nearby eventsInvesting in leadership, communication, and presentation skillsSubscriptions such as Ministry of Testing Pro (including a ticket to their #MoTaCon event) and similar learning communitiesLeanPubThe hosts discuss the value of human connection, being exposed to new perspectives, and coming away from events with renewed ideas and motivation.
Certifications and Career Signals
The conversation takes a balanced view on certifications, including ISTQB:
Not a definition of quality or capabilityPotentially useful for people entering the industryHelpful as a signal when experience is limitedMore valuable as a foundation than an end goalSupport the show
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Welcome to another episode of the Testing Peers podcast. In this episode, Simon, David, Chris and returning host, Dan Ashby explore what makes a high-performing team and how leaders can intentionally create the right environment for teams to thrive. The conversation builds on both shared experience and real-world examples of navigating complex team dynamics.
Topics Discussed
âą Psychological safety
How teams understand it, how fragile it can be and the different forms it takes, including inclusion, learning, contributor and challenger safety.âą Purpose and direction
Why clarity of mission anchors decision making and helps individuals see their contribution to collective outcomes.âą Skills, proficiency and growth
Understanding a teamâs starting point, enabling learning opportunities and how building capability strengthens trust and accountability. Dan also introduces his High-Performing Teams Framework, which provides a structured model for these elements:
https://evolvingleadership.uk/the-hpt-framework/âą Trust and ownership
The importance of follow-through, transparency and what Chris refers to as decisive humility when leading in uncertain or inherited contexts.âą Joy and community
How internal communities, shared testing sessions, social connection and small rituals can support morale and cohesion, especially in remote environments.âą Real-world leadership experiences
Chris shares an example of challenging expectations from leadership by gathering context, sense-checking with peers and approaching difficult conversations with evidence and respect.Also in this episode
Burnout, remote working dynamics, and the role of workplace friendships in supporting sustainable performance.
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Welcome to episode 139 of the Testing Peers podcast. This time, the Peers dive into the sequel to episode 39, for Testing Rants part 2. Hosting this episode is Callum Akehurst-Ryan, Tara Walton, Chris Armstrong and David Maynard.
Single Points of Failure: Documentation saved locally or only in one place.Poor Comments: Insufficient or missing code/system comments.Clarity over Volume: The need for context and value to avoid "death by documentation."
After a brief ranter moment (terrible rant banter portmanteau, sorry), the team move onto the main topic.
Topics covered in this episode:
Documentation IssuesThe Problem with Assumptions
"Termites of Relationships": Assumptions damage team relationships and project outcomes (citing Henry Winkler).Contextual Blind Spots: Discussing unchecked assumptions in daily work.Value and Motivation
Missing the WHY: Lack of communication around the ultimate VALUE of the work.Purpose Drives Motivation: Knowing why tasks matter increases engagement.Cognitive Load and Flow
Spoon Theory: Managing limited mental energy and cognitive load.Flow Disruptors: Identifying Slack/notifications as excessive noise that breaks focus.Time Off and Workplace Safety
Managing Return: Setting healthy expectations for those returning after time off.Psychological Safety: The foundational requirement for taking necessary breaks."Always On" Pressure: Ranting against the pressure for a digital detox and constant online presence.Community and Celebration
Lisa Crispin Shoutout: Acknowledging her commitment to championing the community.
Shining a Light: The importance of celebrating and elevating others.
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nFocus are a UK based software testing company. Theyâve been supporting businesses for 24 years by providing services that include burst resource, accelerated test automation, performance testing and fully managed testing services. In 2021, they launched a Test Automation Academy to create amazing testers and theyâve now created jobs for 48 people in our industry in just under three years!nFocus were a big part of PeersCon in 2024 and 2025, really grateful for all they do to support the Testing Peers.
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Welcome to episode 138 of the Testing Peers Podcast
In this episode, Chris, Rachel, David and Russell discuss how people begin their careers in testing and software quality today.After a light-hearted round of âTwo Truths and a Lie (But All Lies)â, the conversation turns to the different ways people enter the field, and how those paths have changed over time. The Peers share their own experiences and reflect on what helps new testers succeed.
Topics include:
Apprenticeships, graduate schemes and internal career changesThe importance of curiosity, communication and collaborationBalancing technical skills with people skillsThe impact of AI and automation on entry routesBuilding inclusive teams and supporting diverse backgroundsThe difference between culture add and culture fitThe group explore what organisations can do to create better entry points into quality roles, and how experienced professionals can help the next generation of testers grow with confidence.
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Thanks to our sponsors â NFocus Testing.
nFocus are a UK based software testing company. Theyâve been supporting businesses for 24 years by providing services that include burst resource, accelerated test automation, performance testing and fully managed testing services. In 2021, they launched a Test Automation Academy to create amazing testers and theyâve now created jobs for 48 people in our industry in just under three years!nFocus were a big part of PeersCon in 2024 and 2025, really grateful for all they do to support the Testing Peers.
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Welcome to episode 137 of the Testing Peers podcast!
This time, join Callum Akehurst-Ryan, Russell Craxford, Chris Armstrong and David Maynard as we discuss Personal Branding and Social Media.
In this episode, the Peers discuss the importance of personal branding and the role social media plays in shaping professional identity within the testing community.
The conversation explores how each of the hosts approaches their own personal brand, the motivations behind building one, and the ways in which visibility and authenticity can influence employability, reputation and connection. The group also considers the evolution of social media platforms, how algorithms influence engagement, and how to use these platforms effectively while staying true to personal values.
Key discussion points include:
The link between personal branding and professional opportunitiesDeveloping an identifiable and consistent online presenceBalancing authenticity, tone of voice and self-promotionThe impact of algorithms and how to navigate themChoosing the right platforms for your goals, from LinkedIn and YouTube to community spaces such as the Ministry of Testing Club [https://club.ministryoftesting.com/]The idea of defining your brand through a single theme or âwordâ [https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/whats-your-word-finding-perfectly-describes-you-career-dan-ashby-1sv2e/?trackingId=xoBbDkUiRfmqX6GsXR2U7g%3D%3D]The hosts share their experiences of what has worked for them, the challenges of maintaining consistency, and the benefits of intentionality in developing a recognisable and trustworthy online identity.
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If you like what we do and are able to, please visit our Patreon to explore how you could support us going forwards: https://www.patreon.com/testingpeers
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Welcome to episode 136 of the Testing Peers podcast.
In this episode, David, Chris, Russell and Tara dig into a question from #PeersCon25 speaker, Stuart Pates: whatâs the difference between a test strategy and a quality engineering strategy?
The peers explore:
Whether strategies are rigid documents, living guides, or something in betweenHow context drives whether you need a test strategy, a quality strategy, or bothWhy language and labels (âtestâ vs âqualityâ) can help or hinder collaborationThe role of purpose and value in defining strategies that actually workStrategies as empowerment tools versus âone-way to do thingsâ policiesHow to avoid strategies becoming shelfware and instead keep them living and relevantAs always, thereâs plenty of banter (including revelations about everyoneâs oldest open browser tab!) before diving into the topic.
Weâd love to hear your thoughts, what does strategy mean in your organisation, and how do you approach the balance between quality and testing?
#PeersCon26 Tickets for the event are now live too, starting at ÂŁ15 until December 2025, when they increase to ÂŁ30.
And as always, we are looking for sponsors to make this event the success it has been for the last 2 years, get in touch if interestedTwitter (https://twitter.com/testingpeers)
LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/company/testing-peers)
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If you like what we do and are able to, please visit our Patreon to explore how you could support us going forwards: https://www.patreon.com/testingpeers
Thanks to our sponsors â NFocus Testing.
nFocus are a UK based software testing company. Theyâve been supporting businesses for 24 years by providing services that include burst resource, accelerated test automation, performance testing and fully managed testing services. In 2021, they launched a Test Automation Academy to create amazing testers and theyâve now created jobs for 48 people in our industry in just under three years!nFocus were a big part of PeersCon in 2024 and 2025, really grateful for all they do to support the Testing Peers.
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Welcome to episode 135 of the Testing Peers Podcast. This time join Chris, Russell, David and the returning Jon Robinson as we talk all things AI in testing.
Artificial intelligence is already reshaping how we approach testing, QA and quality. But what happens when the pace of change accelerates? In this episode, the Peers explore what AI might mean for our profession, our skills and the value we bring.
We discuss:
The future of QA roles in the next 3â5 years and which functions may fade or evolve.Why exploratory testing could become more important as AI takes on repetitive checking.The risk of over-reliance on AI tools, from hallucinations to âblind hopeâ in outputs.New skills testers may need: data literacy, training and validating models, and critical thinking about outputs.Shifts in business mindsets: AI as a cost-cutting tool vs AI as an enabler.The challenges of scalability, maintainability and sustainability when using AI.Ethical and legal concerns around data sharing, intellectual property and training models.How diverse skills and perspectives remain crucial for testing in an AI-driven future.Along the way, we touch on topics from token debt and environmental impact, to healthcare examples, to why trust and human experience still matter.
#PeersCon26 Call for Collaborations for written and video submissions until September 30th 2025, and also for VolunPeers. More on all this can be found here
Tickets for the event are now live too, starting at ÂŁ15 until December, when they go up to ÂŁ30.
And as always, we are looking for sponsors to make this event the success it has been for the last 2 years, get in touch if interestedTwitter (https://twitter.com/testingpeers)
LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/company/testing-peers)
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Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/TestingPeers)Weâre also now on GoodPods, check it out via the mobile app stores
If you like what we do and are able to, please visit our Patreon to explore how you could support us going forwards: https://www.patreon.com/testingpeers
Thanks to our sponsors â NFocus Testing.
nFocus are a UK based software testing company. Theyâve been supporting businesses for 24 years by providing services that include burst resource, accelerated test automation, performance testing and fully managed testing services. In 2021, they launched a Test Automation Academy to create amazing testers and theyâve now created jobs for 48 people in our industry in just under three years!nFocus were a big part of PeersCon in 2024 and 2025, really grateful for all they do to support the Testing Peers.
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Welcome to Episode 134 of the Testing Peers podcast. This week, join Simon, David, Tara and Chris.
How do we explain testing and quality to people who are not testers, in a way that actually lands? In this episode, we talk about meeting stakeholders where they are, translating quality into the language of risk, cost and outcomes, and building trust through visible work and data. We also share practical ways to bring non-testers into the quality journey, from testathons to storytelling.
What we cover
Getting out of the testing echo chamber and speaking in terms others value, for example, risk, time, cost and customer impact.Why âfinish testing by Fridayâ and pass or fail dashboards miss the point, and how to reframe around confidence and acceptable quality.Trusted advisor status is earned, not assumed, through consistent visibility and data that supports decisions.Using risk as a shared language, tying quality work to concrete mitigations that matter to stakeholders.The tension between flexibility and standards, and why some consistency helps credibility.Startups versus enterprises, common perceptions of testing, and how to counter âdevs can do it allâ or âcheap offshore scripts are enoughâ.Making the work visible: show outcomes, not just activities, and celebrate wins to build momentum.AI in quality, cautious optimism, and the importance of getting involved early so we help shape how it is used and tested.Practical ideas discussed
Run regular testathons and paired exploratory sessions that include developers, product, customer support and leaders. Let people experience the work and discover real issues together.Tell relevant, audience-shaped stories. CFO cares about the cost of quality, product cares about customer outcomes, engineers care about feasibility and flow.Start small, show value, then scale. Use data from pilots to make a compelling case.Document enough to show standards and accountability, without losing agility.Use tools like RiskStorming to surface risks early and align on mitigations.Own the narrative. Be assertive, positive and specific about the value testing brings, not just the problems it finds.Shout-outs and references
Callum Akehurst-Ryan on becoming trusted advisors.Sophie KĂŒster, The Impostorâs Guide to Tooting Your Own Horn.RiskStorming and other collaborative risk techniques.Exploratory testing and team testathons as ongoing practice, not a one-off event.#PeersCon26 Call for Collaborations for written and video submissions until September 30th 2025, and also for VolunPeers. More on all this can be found here
Tickets for the event are now live too, starting at ÂŁ15 until December, when they go up to ÂŁ30.
And as always, we are looking for sponsors to make this event the success it has been for the last 2 years, get in touch if interestedThanks to our sponsors â NFocus Testing.
nFocus are a UK based software testing company. Theyâve been supporting businesses for 24 years by providing services that include burst resource, accelerated test automation, performance testing and fully managed testing services. In 2021, they launched a Test Automation Academy to create amazing testers and theyâve now created jobs for 48 people in our industry in just under three years!
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Welcome to episode 133 of the Testing Peers podcast.
In this episode, the Peers (Chris, Callum, David and Russell) explore the complex and often subtle art of influencing quality within teams, organisations and wider cultures.
The team share stories from early careers to more recent consulting and coaching experiences. The conversation examines how influence operates in practice and what it truly means to be a voice for quality. This is a discussion about mindset shifts, not mandates. About patience, not prescriptions.
Topics covered include:
What influence looks like in quality-focused rolesThe difference between being responsible for quality and being a voice of qualityBuilding credibility and rapport in complex environmentsHow time, language and context influenceCoaching versus prescribing solutionsMaking invisible work visible to gain tractionOvercoming cynicism and staying curiousHow influence can ripple beyond the testing teamWhether you are coaching, testing or leading, this episode is packed with practical insights and thoughtful discussion on how to support quality in meaningful, lasting ways.
#PeersCon26 Call for Collaborations for written and video submissions until September 30th 2025, and also for VolunPeers. More on all this can be found here
Tickets for the event are now live too, starting at ÂŁ15 until December, when they go up to ÂŁ30.
And as always, we are looking for sponsors to make this event the success it has been for the last 2 years, get in touch if interestedTwitter (https://twitter.com/testingpeers)
LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/company/testing-peers)
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Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/TestingPeers)Weâre also now on GoodPods, check it out via the mobile app stores
If you like what we do and are able to, please visit our Patreon to explore how you could support us going forwards: https://www.patreon.com/testingpeers
Thanks to our sponsors â NFocus Testing.
nFocus are a UK based software testing company. Theyâve been supporting businesses for 24 years by providing services that include burst resource, accelerated test automation, performance testing and fully managed testing services. In 2021, they launched a Test Automation Academy to create amazing testers and theyâve now created jobs for 48 people in our industry in just under three years!nFocus were a big part of PeersCon in 2024 and 2025, really grateful for all they do supporting the Testing Peers.
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Welcome to episode 132 of the Testing Peers Podcast.
This time, joining David and Chris are the returning Rachel Kibler and first-time host Vanessa Zettler, with the Peers discussing Software That Cares.
Key Quote âThere is no average user.â â A reminder that designing for the âaverageâ often excludes everyone.
Accessibility as a Civil Rights Issue
Digital access is essential in modern life. The team explore why accessibility is about equity and inclusion, not just regulations.Temporary vs. Permanent Disability
The group reflects on how anyone can join the disabled community at any timeâmaking accessibility everyone's responsibility.Legal Landscape
Landmark US cases: Robles v. Dominoâs and Access Now v. Blue ApronGrowth of lawsuits in e-commerceUK legislation: Equality Act 2010 and Public Sector Bodies Accessibility RegulationsBeyond the Checklist
WCAG 2.1 AA as the global standardThe limitations of automated tools and âaccessibility widgetsâImportance of manual validation, especially with screen readersThe Role of Testers & Quality Engineers
Testers often become accessibility advocates by default: identifying, championing, and embedding inclusive practices across teams.Inclusive Design from the Start
Accessibility must be considered from the beginning, not just at testing, bringing in copywriters, designers, and developers early.Emotional Sensitivity in UX
Rachel highlights the need to consider emotional impact, particularly during difficult times, when crafting user-facing messages.#PeersCon26 Call for Collaborations for written and video submissions until September 30th 2025, and also for VolunPeers. More on all this can be found here
Tickets for the event are now live too, starting at ÂŁ15 until December, when they go up to ÂŁ30.
And as always, we are looking for sponsors to make this event the success it has been for the last 2 years, get in touch if interested
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Thanks to our sponsors â NFocus Testing.
nFocus are a UK based software testing company. Theyâve been supporting businesses for 24 years by providing services that include burst resource, accelerated test automation, performance testing and fully managed testing services. In 2021, they launched a Test Automation Academy to create amazing testers and theyâve now created jobs for 48 people in our industry in just under three years!
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Welcome to a special episode of the Testing Peers to announce our Programme Committee and Theme for PeersCon 26, which is happening on 12th March 2026 in Nottingham, UK.
Join our Co-Chairs David and Simon as they introduce you to the rest of the committee:
Suman BalaDan AshbyBeth MarshallRita AvotaMore on the committee can be found here.
After the usual banter, the team dive into talking more about the theme for the conference, which is:
Context is Everything: Lessons from the Universality of Quality and Testing Across Different IndustriesQuality and testing principles may be universal, but their application varies dramatically across contexts. A quality engineer working on a highly regulated environment faces different challenges than a gaming quality engineer managing real-time multiplayer chaos, yet both share fundamental insights about risk, user impact, and systematic thinking.This theme focuses on the diversity of testing experiences across industries while uncovering the common challenges all of us can relate to. Whether youâre testing retail apps, financial systems, or manufacturing processes, your context shapes your testing approach.Weâre looking for speakers from every industry and experience level to share their real-world challenges and lessons learned, hoping to provide knowledge that can be used in the audiences own context and raising the quality bar across our industryWith this now discussed and their thoughts around why this was chosen, it is now time to officially open the Call for Collaborations for written and video submissions and also for VolunPeers. More on all this can be found here
Tickets for the event are now live too, starting at ÂŁ15 until December, when they go up to ÂŁ30.
And as always, we are looking for sponsors to make this event the success it has been for the last 2 years, get in touch if interested
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Weâre also now on GoodPods, check it out via the mobile app stores
If you like what we do and are able to, please visit our Patreon to explore how you could support us going forwards: https://www.patreon.com/testingpeers
Thanks to our brand new sponsors â NFocus Testing.
nFocus are a UK based software testing company. Theyâve been supporting businesses for 24 years by providing services that include burst resource, accelerated test automation, performance testing and fully managed testing services. In 2021, they launched a Test Automation Academy to create amazing testers and theyâve now created jobs for 48 people in our industry in just under three years!
nFocus were a big part of PeersCon in 2024 and 2025, really grateful for all they do supporting the Testing Peers.
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