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Summary: In this episode, Susan Wise Bauer and Susanna Jarrett discuss how a classical education prepares students for university education and what adjustments may need to be made to ensure your student is a competitive applicant.
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Recommendations for transcript creators A Sample High School TranscriptAssigning High School Credit Hours by Susan Wise BauerTests We Discuss:
SAT website ACT website CLT exam AP examsCLEP exams
(00:00) - Intro(01:31) - Starting off with a piece of advice(04:39) - Preparing for college at the rhetoric stage(10:57) - Seven tips (and a bonus!) for making the transition to college(11:28) - Tip #1: Identify a range of potential colleges(12:49) - Tip #2: Get credits on a transcript(29:18) - Tip #3: Practice receiving instruction from multiple sources(33:53) - Tip #4: Decide whether to take standardized tests(40:48) - Tip #5: Look into achievement based testing(46:54) - Tip #6: Get used to using a checklist and planner(50:37) - Tip #7: Start collecting letters of recommendation(52:53) - BONUS!: How to align classical courses to a high school transcript(58:33) - Outro
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ANNOUNCEMENT: We will record a Q&A episode at the end of this season. If you have questions for Susan or Susanna, send them to [email protected].
(00:00) - Intro(01:25) - Defining "burnout"(06:02) - Burnout is normal(15:19) - When to ask for help(18:43) - Susan's story of burnout(21:34) - Break(22:19) - Dealing with burnout(31:50) - What to do next(48:34) - Outro -
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Clarification on online class types:
Live = Students attend video call classes at a set time. During class they can interact with their instructor and peers. They may complete additional coursework on their own, but must submit it by a particular deadline.
Asynch = Students watch video instruction on their own. There are no set meeting times. They may or may not have deadlines for coursework.
Delayed (unique to WTM Academy) = Students can watch lectures on their own time (within 24hrs of the live class), but must complete all other coursework on the same timeline as live students. Here is a video about how delayed classes work at the WTM Academy.
Is there an administration?Is the school accredited? TuitionHow much do you want to be involved? Delivery method/Time onlineSocialization opportunitiesViewpoint Diversity and/or Worldview Website design
Things to Look For When Choosing an Online School:Nationally Recognized Accrediting bodies
MSA
(Also check out the agencies they cooperate with)
WASC
Cognia
(00:00) - Intro with Julia Collier(02:39) - What are the benefits of online school?(12:50) - Types of online programs(27:23) - Break(28:16) - Types of online programs(34:32) - What a diploma does and whether or not it's important(36:52) - What are *you* looking for in an online school?(43:13) - Green flags, red flags, and things to look for in an online school(01:02:28) - Wrapping up(01:03:22) - Outro -
German: Goethe Institute
Spanish: Instituto Cervantes
French: Alliance Francaise
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Beth Gibbons â singing Penderecki/Gorecki Symphony #3
ANNOUNCEMENT: We will record a Q&A episode at the end of this season. If you have questions for Susan or Susanna, send them to [email protected].
(00:00) - Intro with Elizabeth Weber-Edwards(01:59) - A brief introduction to learned languages(08:15) - How do you learn languages?(14:06) - Some principles for choosing a way to teach a language(21:52) - Which language should you pick?(30:41) - Break(31:34) - How language learning fits into classical education(41:23) - What to look for in a quality online language class(54:51) - It's never too late to learn a language! -
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What is History? How andWhy Should I Teach It by Susan Wise Bauer Why Learn History When itâs Already on Your Phone? By Sam Wineburg Sam Wineburg for CBS Research on middle schoolers ability to interpret information on the internetA helpful introduction to teaching historical thinking skillsResources for Teaching History: The Big History Project (skills taught: contextualization, sourcing, causation, comparison, continuity & change over time, close reading) Digital Inquiry Group (formerly Stanford History Education Group or SHEG). This organization offers free lesson plans and assessment ideas that emphasize historical thinking skills, perfect for logic stage students. The âLunchroom Iâ and âLunchroom IIâ lesson plans are a fun introduction to historical thinking skills. A great introduction to history for rhetoric stage students: Telling the Truth About History Reading Lists for Hard History American Indians in Childrenâs Literature Web Page by Debbie Reese Heritage Mom Recommendations for Black HistoryAnnotated Reading list for Grammar Stage: Picture Books About Slavery and Freedom via Heritage MomAnnotated Reading list for Logic Stage: Age-Appropriate Books about the Holocaust via School Library Journal (you know your student, some of these may be too heavy for younger logic stage students). Another reading list with both grammar stage and logic stage titles on enslavement: Childrenâs Books about Slavery and Enslavement via Pragmatic Mom(00:00) - Intro(00:25) - History as a battleground(05:21) - A Drag Queen example(08:31) - History as a story and historical "accuraacy"(16:49) - 4 historical approaches(16:57) - Biographical history(19:06) - Progressive history(29:35) - Positivist history(33:55) - Social history(37:33) - How do we teach this?(40:10) - History in the grammar stage(47:52) - History in the logic stage(55:21) - History in the rhetoric stage(58:37) - Wrapping up(59:22) - Outro -
Summary: In this episode, Susan and Susanna discuss their thoughts on teaching childrenâs literature, particularly older books that have problematic or insensitive content.
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Articles We Reference:
Are some childrenâs classics unsuitable for kids? The GuardianAmerican Indians in Childrenâs Literature Web Page by Debbie Reese Ted Talk: The Danger of a Single StoryBooklists and Resources for Finding Windows and Mirrors: https://www.storiesofcolor.com/https://americanindiansinchildrensliterature.blogspot.com/Heritage Mom Recommendations for Black History(00:00) - Intro(00:14) - The inspiration for this episode(01:03) - Revisiting classic books with objectionable content(04:21) - Defining and discussing "objectionable content"(18:19) - How do we read these books?(25:04) - Break(25:13) - Reading classic literature in the grammar stage(40:38) - Susanna's experience with classic literature(44:32) - Windows and Mirrors(47:14) - Classic literature in the logic and rhetoric stage(48:58) - There are definitely books that should be skipped(52:35) - An important question to ask yourself(55:53) - At the end of the day(57:25) - Outro -
Summary: In this episode, Susan and Susanna are joined by Julie Bogart, the founder of the Brave Writer program. Susan and Julie compare their different approaches to teaching writing and discuss which approach might work best for different types of students.
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Writing With Ease Brave WriterJulie Bogartâs Books:
The Brave Learner: Finding Everyday Magic in Homeschool, Learning and LifeRaising Critical Thinkers (00:00) - Intro with Julie Bogart of Brave Writer(07:29) - A perfect segue story(10:20) - The basic philosophy of Brave Writer(13:26) - Comparing and contrasting WTM and BW(20:37) - An example of an inappropriate writing assignment and a fix!(23:33) - The pressure to come up with original content(27:57) - How to deal with writing-terrified parents(33:26) - What are we going to do about AI?(37:25) - Listener question: Left brain vs right brain thinkers?(42:31) - Wrapping up -
In this episode, Susan and Susanna discuss Susanâs classical approach to teaching writing across all three stages of a classical education. Apologies, Susannaâs audio was a bit messed up in this episode!
The Current State of Writing InstructionSusanâs Youtube video on teaching writing: Teaching Writing, Stage by StageA Plan for Teaching Writing: Grades K-12, Audio WorkshopThe Complete Writer (Our recommended writing program by Susan)
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In this episode, Susan Wise Bauer and Susanna Jarrett discuss creating a positive learning environment for young children, before formal education begins.
Preschool Math at Home by Kate Snow The Toddler Busy Book by Trish Kuffner Complete Daily Curriculum for Early Childhood by Pam Schiller and Patt Phipps(00:00) - Intro(00:14) - Welcome to Season 2! (plus a little Season 1 recap)(00:43) - The Nuts and Bolts of Classical Education(01:28) - What Classical Education looks like before the grammar stage(06:50) - The preschool years at a brain development level(09:15) - The preschool years at a physical development level(11:40) - Laying out some basic principles(11:50) - Don't push into formal education activities(12:44) - Create and environment for reading, math, and thinking(21:27) - If your child does want to do school(24:24) - How to create a learning environment(24:58) - Don't confuse entertainment with education(27:50) - Encourage drawing counter-clockwise circles(29:15) - Incorporate counting into everyday life(31:16) - Talk! (and listen!)(34:21) - Read read read!(38:23) - What your kid should know before 1st grade(42:31) - Outro
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The Marshmallow Experiment
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(00:00) - Intro(00:35) - Susan's issues with "teaching virtue"(06:18) - The four cardinal virtues of classical education | Temperance, Prudence, Courage, and Justice(06:56) - Temperance: The practice of self-control(16:00) - Prudence: The ability to determine the appropriate course of action in a given situation(24:08) - Courage: Moving forward without knowing the outcome(29:36) - Justice: Applying what you've learned to relationships(35:40) - You can't make virtue happen(37:25) - Outro (See you next season!) -
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Rethinking School by Susan Wise Bauer How to Homeschool the Kids You Have â the book Courtney co-authored Courtneyâs Podcast: Modern Classical Education Podcast (name recently changed to Kitchen Table Homeschool Podcast) The Well-Trained Mind ForumsStudy mentioned in the Episode:
The Baseball Study (1988) Summary of The Baseball StudyFurther Reading:
WWE and students with Dyslexia/DysgraphiaSentence diagramming with dysgraphia
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Summary: In this episode, Susan Wise Bauer and Susanna Jarrett chat with Keith Nix, the Head of School for Veritas School in Richmond, VA. They discuss the differences between classical education in a home school setting versus a school setting as well as the challenges of making classical education accessible to all students.
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Veritas School WebsitePotential Questions to Ask Before Enrolling in a Classical School:
How do you adapt for students who come in at different levels or are on different developmental paths? What are your strategies? How do you ensure that students are known by their teachers and by your administrators? Can we talk to a family or two who were new here last year? How can I afford this school? What is your financial model? How often can kids go outside? Do teachers have power to create breaks? (particularly for younger children)What is the philosophy of discipline? What is the emphasis on athletics? How much attention are you giving to the arts? What are your aspirations for the future? What are your faculty attrition rates? What are your student attrition rates? How does the governance of the school function? How does the board of the school relate to the head of school? Who is on the board? How many are related to the founder? What is your philosophy around grading?Timestamps:
(00:00) - Intro(02:38) - Pros and challenges of classical education at home vs in an institutional setting(21:50) - How to make classical education more accessible to more families(32:57) - How do non-traditional schools help with growing classical education(39:50) - Red flags to look out for when finding a classical school(48:29) - Questions to ask when you visit a classical education institution(53:38) - One last question(55:10) - Outro AND ANNOUNCEMENT!! -
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Dr. Pratherâs WebsiteDr. Anika's Suggested Authors to Include in Your Study of the Cannon:
Octavia Butler Anna Julia Cooper James Baldwin Martin Luther King Corretta Scott King Ralph EllisonRichard Wright Alain Locke Langston Hughes Carter G. Woodson Other Harlem Renaissance Author
(00:00) - Intro with Dr. Anika Prather(02:22) - Is there Eurocentrism in classical education?(09:01) - Finding a better word than "eurocentrism"(12:33) - Marxist philosophy in classical education(15:42) - How to get to synthesis(38:58) - Classical education is understanding the human condition(43:02) - Wrapping up(43:21) - Outro
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More on Charlotte Mason: Susan's Article on Classical Education and Charlotte MasonMore on Unit Studies: Susan's Article on Unit StudiesMore on Unschooling: Unschoolers.org More on Montessori: American Montessori Society or Association Montessori Internationale \Timestamps:
(00:00) - Intro(01:10) - Charlotte Mason compared to classical education(13:46) - Unit studies compared to classical education(23:09) - Montessori compared to classical education(33:35) - Unschooling compared to classical education(43:39) - Liberal arts compared to classical education(46:03) - Our *second* favorite approaches to education(47:41) - Outro -
Summary: In this episode, Susan Wise Bauer and Susanna Jarrett discuss how a classical education prepares students for university education and what adjustments may need to be made to ensure your student is a competitive applicant.
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Recommendations for transcript creators A Sample High School TranscriptAssigning High School Credit Hours by Susan Wise BauerTests We Discuss:
SAT website ACT website CLT exam AP examsCLEP exams
(00:00) - Intro(01:05) - Starting off with a piece of advice(04:13) - Preparing for college at the rhetoric stage(10:31) - Seven tips (and a bonus!) for making the transition to college(11:02) - Tip #1: Identify a range of potential colleges(12:23) - Tip #2: Get credits on a transcript(28:00) - Tip #3: Practice receiving instruction from multiple sources(32:35) - Tip #4: Decide whether to take standardized tests(39:30) - Tip #5: Look into achievement based testing(45:36) - Tip #6: Get used to using a checklist and planner(49:19) - Tip #7: Start collecting letters of recommendation(51:35) - BONUS!: How to align classical courses to a high school transcript(57:15) - Outro
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In this episode, Susan Wise Bauer and Susanna Jarrett discuss one of the most important, albeit misunderstood, elements of a classical education: modeling and copying.
"In Defense of Memorization" by Michael Knox BeranVia Forbes âWhy Memorizing Stuff Can be Good for Youâ(00:00) - Intro(00:52) - Modeling, copying and how we learn(07:31) - Copying and modeling in the writing stage(25:07) - Copying and modeling in the rhetoric stage(30:52) - Quick sidenote!(32:37) - Memorization in the educational process(40:49) - Debunking misconceptions about memorization(41:08) - Misconception #1: Memorization is opposed to critical thinking(44:13) - Misconception #2: People forget what they memorize(45:38) - Misconception #3: Memorization is will kill a love for learning(48:54) - Putting Susanna on the spot(51:37) - Outro
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Summary: In this episode, Susan Wise Bauer and Susanna Jarrett discuss the recent politicization of classical education and the future of this ancient method of learning.
References:
Dorothy Sayers Essays: The Lost Tools of Learning Louis Markos for Christianity Today â The Rise of the Bible-Teaching, Plato-Loving, Homeschool ElitistsLogos School Website William C. Michaelâs Article on Classical Christian EducationSome Articles Touching on Douglas Wilsonâs Ideas âDouglas Wilson and the Association of Classical Christian Schools.ââDoug Wilsonâs Religious Empire Expanding in the North West.ââMake it a Christian Town: The Ultra-Conservative Church on the Rise in Idaho.âHillsdale College: New Yorker: The Christian Liberal-Arts School at the heart of the Culture Wars.Article Round-Up:
ABC: Classical Education Charter Schools on the Rise in Florida with Help from Small, Conservative Michigan College.DeSantis Wants to Focus on âClassical Education.â What does that Mean?| Editorial in Orlando Sentinel.Salon: Salon Investigates: The War on Public Schools is Being Fought from Hillsdale College.Washington Examiner: No âClassical Educationâ is not a Racist Dog Whistle.
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In this episode, Susan Wise Bauer and Susanna Jarrett tell the story of classical education and explain how it changed across different time periods.
Further Reading and References:
Kern, Andrew and Gene Veith. Classical Education: The Movement Sweeping America. Circe Institute. Perrin, Christopher. âThe Legacy and Modern Renewal of Classical Education.â Classical Academic Press. https://classicalacademicpress.com/blogs/classical-insights/the-legacy-and-modern-renewal-of-classical-education. Markos, Louis. âThe Rise of the Bible-Teaching, Plato-Loving, Homeschool Elitists.â Christianity Today. https://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2019/september/classical-christian-schools.html. McCoy Brandon, âClassical Education: An Attractive School Choice for Parents,â Manhattan Institute, Date Published: July 29th, 2021 https://manhattan.institute/article/classical-education-an-attractive-school-choice-for-parents. William, Michael. âConfusing Classical Education with Conservative Education.â Classical Liberal Arts Society. https://classicalliberalarts.com/classical-catholic-education/confusing-classical-education-with-conservative-education/.
(00:00) - Intro(00:43) - The loadedness of the phrase "Classical Education"(03:10) - The historical foundations of Classical Education(04:18) - Classical Education in Classical times(17:48) - Classical Education in America(43:13) - Touching on topics for the next episode(46:39) - Outro
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In this follow-up episode, Susan Wise Bauer and Susanna Jarrett debunk common misconceptions about classical education. No, you do not have to teach your child Latin to be a classical homeschooler!
(00:00) - Intro(01:52) - Classical Education isn't Latin-focused(10:41) - Classical Education isn't just for the "Super Academic"(21:56) - Classical Education isn't curriclum-dependent(23:45) - Classical Education isn't safe(34:00) - Restating the negatives as positives(35:09) - Outro - Vis mere
