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In our first episode coming out of the showâs summer break, Tom Schin joins us to talk about his work helping organizations build better culture. We open up the conversation about the cultures we build with our kids and, in one of my better segues, pivot to focusing on the workplace. Tom talks about driving culture from the job description, recruiting process, onboarding and throughout the employee journey.
Our Guest: Tom Schin, Creator and Founder at Build Better Culture
Website: Build Better Culture
LinkedIn: Tom Schin
Instagram: @bbetterculture
Twitter: @buildbettercul1
YouTube: BuildBetterCulture
Where to find your host Tom Horne and Tomâs Engaging HR
LinkedIn: Tom Horne
Email: [email protected]
Personal Twitter: @TomsEngagingHR
Podcast Twitter Page: @EngagingHRPod
Youtube: @Tomâs ENGAGING HR
Instagram: @TomsEngagingHRPod
TikTok: @Toms.engaging.hr
Facebook: Tomâs Engaging HR Podcast
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Intro and Theme song for Tomâs Engaging HR is âBetterâ by Break Signals. Break Signals just released their first studio album âA Steady Frequencyâ and it absolutely rocks, check it out here: Break Signals: A Steady Frequency
Fun fact, the song âThat Guyâ, which is also on the album, was inspired by a magician that was hanging around outside The HR Technology Conference in 2022Karl Pawlewicz: He was integral with helping with our logo, social media, and answering my 1,000 questions while building out the show. I appreciate you and your friendship for over 20 years, youâre the man!
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Rachel Kitty Cupples joins me after many conversations in the #HRCommunity on Twitter to talk about the state of recruiting today and where itâs heading over the coming months. Rachel has a fun TikTok Channel, great social media, & fantastic blog that Iâve always lovedâŠhaving her as a guest didnât disappoint. We talk about Tom Bradyâs HOF Speech, break down the types of TA Roles you may interact with, the state of Recruiting today & a lot more. Itâs always fun when a recruiter is in the house!
Our Guest: Rachel Kitty Cupples, Talent Strategist, Full-Cycle Recruitment Program Manager & Trainer
Website: Recruitingshero.com
LinkedIn: Rachel Cupples
Instagram: @recruitingshero
Twitter: @recruitingSHEro
TikTok: @recruitingshero2.0
Mentioned in the show:
Tom Brady: âLife Is Hardâ HOF SpeechRachel Kitty Cupples Blog: From Unemployment to Insights: Tinerking with Job Seeker WhiplashJeff Shapiro Post from LinkedInWhere to find your host Tom Horne and Tomâs Engaging HR
Email: [email protected]
LinkedIn: Tom Horne
Personal Twitter: @TomsEngagingHR
Podcast Twitter Page: @EngagingHRPod
Youtube: @Tomâs ENGAGING HR
Instagram: @TomsEngagingHRPod
TikTok: @Toms.engaging.hr
Facebook: Tomâs Engaging HR Podcast
THANK YOU:
Intro and Theme song for Tomâs Engaging HR is âBetterâ by Break Signals. Break Signals just released their first studio album âA Steady Frequencyâ and it absolutely rocks, check it out here: Break Signals: A Steady Frequency
Fun fact, the song âThat Guyâ, which is also on the album, was inspired by a magician that was hanging around outside The HR Technology Conference in 2022Karl Pawlewicz: He was integral with helping with our logo, social media, and answering my 1,000 questions while building out the show. I appreciate you and your friendship for over 20 years, youâre the man!
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On Todayâs show we sit down for lunch on location at a great Mexican Restaurant in Littleton, CO to talk about his non-profit Longer Tables. Tim has identified the power of connecting at a table, over food and with phones down as one of the true human connections. We dive into how the phone is âmicrowavingâ connections, I love that analogy btw, and what it means to really create meaning with those you connect with. Timâs perspective on belonging not being an outcome but rather the start of engagement is not to be missed. We hope you'll join us at the table for a great conversation about culture, connection, belonging in both your communities and the workplace.
Our Guest: Tim Jones, Founder
Heâs the Executive Director of the non-profit, Longer Tables, who is creating places of connection through large-scale community table events â namely, a literal mile-long table in downtown Denver in 2025!Addressing employee engagement and retention within large companies, Tim is Lead Consultant at VertiklĂ« Solutions, a full-service consulting agency helping companies thrive through belonging.
Company: Longertables.org
LinkedIn: Longer Tables
LinkedIn:Tim Jones
Mentioned in the show:
Disrupt HR Denver
Where to find your host Tom Horne and Tomâs Engaging HR
Email: [email protected]
LinkedIn: Tom Horne
Personal Twitter: @TomsEngagingHR
Podcast Twitter Page: @EngagingHRPod
Youtube: @Tomâs ENGAGING HR
Instagram: @TomsEngagingHRPod
TikTok: @Toms.engaging.hr
Facebook: Tomâs Engaging HR Podcast
THANK YOU:
Intro and Theme song for Tomâs Engaging HR is âBetterâ by Break Signals. Break Signals just released their first studio album âA Steady Frequencyâ and it absolutely rocks, check it out here: Break Signals: A Steady Frequency
Fun fact, the song âThat Guyâ, which is also on the album, was inspired by a magician that was hanging around outside The HR Technology Conference in 2022Karl Pawlewicz: He was integral with helping with our logo, social media, and answering my 1,000 questions while building out the show. I appreciate you and your friendship for over 20 years, youâre the man!
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Sims Tillirson is a well-known personality from LinkedIn and Iâm super excited to sit down with him again to catch up. You may know him from his skits he posts, the songs he sings, his raw and open presentation of himself, but I sit down and get a few layers deeper on this episode. We both share an affinity for Nikeâs in the workplace so we dive into that topic to get the engines running before pivoting to a lengthy conversation about employee benefits. How do you get the most from your broker relationships? How can you drive down costs while maintaining a high level of benefits for your employees? Are there new legislations or compliance issues I have to be aware of regarding how we provide benefits? All these questions are answered before we finish up talking about wellbeingâŠmost notably ours.
Our Guest: Sims Tillirson, SVP Sales & Broker Partnerships
Company: BLUE RAVEN actuarial
LinkedIn: Sims Tillirson
Spotify: Sims Tillirson
Mentioned in the show:
GOAT: Air Jordan 1Nike Delta Force Ÿ AubergineMewing DefinitionKids Mewing, YouTubeHR&P: Consolidated Appropriations Act: Employee Benefits ProvisionsWhat is RxDCWhere to find your host Tom Horne and Tomâs Engaging HR
LinkedIn: Tom Horne
Email: [email protected]
Personal Twitter: @TomsEngagingHR
Podcast Twitter Page: @EngagingHRPod
YouTube: @Tomâs ENGAGING HR
Instagram: @TomsEngagingHRPod
TikTok: @Toms.engaging.hr
Facebook: Tomâs Engaging HR Podcast
THANK YOU:
Intro and Theme song for Tomâs Engaging HR is âBetterâ by Break Signals. Break Signals just released their first studio album âA Steady Frequencyâ and it absolutely rocks, check it out here: Break Signals: A Steady Frequency
Fun fact, the song âThat Guyâ, which is also on the album, was inspired by a magician that was hanging around outside The HR Technology Conference in 2022Karl Pawlewicz: He was integral with helping with our logo, social media, and answering my 1,000 questions while building out the show. I appreciate you and your friendship for over 20 years, youâre the man!
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We're excited to present a special episode that I recorded with Leo Tokar from Lockton in 2023. I think the content is especially relevant to what companies and employees are focused on today. Leo joins the podcast for our first in-depth conversation about Total Rewards. We cover Total Rewards at a high level but also focus on how Total Rewards Strategies can be leveraged in todayâs uncertain economy. Leo also connects the dots of how to engage your employees with Total Rewards to drive the best employee experience.
Noted in Podcast:
HR HOTSAUCE âFavorite song to bring you out of a funk playlistâ: Coldplay What Leo is listening to: Marketing School Podcast Book: Atomic HabitsOur Guest, Leo Tokar
Leo serves as President, People Solutions and partner with Lockton Companies, a consulting and brokerage firm that provides insurance, risk management, total rewards, employee benefits and retirement solutions. Lockton is the 8th largest risk and benefits management firm in the world and the largest firm that is private and independent.
Leo leads the strategy and financial performance of health & welfare, retirement, and executive benefits practices. In addition, he oversees consulting teams for key accounts and manages employee benefits and total rewards strategy for public and private organizations in a variety of industries.
Leo has a MS in Marketing and MBS from the University of Colorado executive programs, and a Bachelor of Science Degree in Economics from the University of Kansas.
Leo is a current board member of Delta Dental of Colorado, Denver Metro Chamber, Ensemble Innovation Ventures, and the American Cancer Society. He is also a graduate of Leadership Denver and has won the âForty Under 40â Award from the Denver Business Journal.
LinkedIn: Leo Tokar
Lockton Website
Where to find your host Tom Horne and Tomâs Engaging HR
LinkedIn: Tom Horne
Email: [email protected]
Personal Twitter: @TomsEngagingHR
Podcast Twitter Page: @EngagingHRPod
Youtube: @Tomâs ENGAGING HR
Instagram: @TomsEngagingHRPod
TikTok: @Toms.engaging.hr
Facebook: Tomâs Engaging HR Podcast
THANK YOU:
Intro and Theme song for Tomâs Engaging HR is âBetterâ by Break Signals. Break Signals just released their first studio album âA Steady Frequencyâ and it absolutely rocks, check it out here: Break Signals: A Steady Frequency
Fun fact, the song âThat Guyâ, which is also on the album, was inspired by a magician that was hanging around outside The HR Technology Conference in 2022Thanks to Jon Thurmond for your mentorship and help getting the podcast off the ground. I appreciate you lending the voice for the introduction as well!
Karl Pawlewicz: He was integral with helping with our logo, social media, and answering my 1,000 questions while building out the show. I appreciate you and your friendship for over 20 years, youâre the man!
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John Bernatovicz joined me to talk about his journey to writing his best-selling book HR Like a Boss. We cover a lot of ground from his early days at ADP, to a great story about how he beat Tiger Woods in a golf tournament, how he founded Willory and finally the main topic: How to HR Like a Boss. Itâs a really fun and engaging conversation with a great leader and voice in the HR Space.
Our Guest: John Bernatovicz, Founder, Author, Speaker
Email: [email protected]
Company: Willory
LinkedIn: John Bernatovicz
HR Like a Boss Podcast
HR Like a Boss Community and Book
Mentioned in the show:
What Johnâs Listening to: John's PlaylistWhere to find your host Tom Horne and Tomâs Engaging HR
LinkedIn: Tom Horne
Email: [email protected]
Personal Twitter: @TomsEngagingHR
Podcast Twitter Page: @EngagingHRPod
Youtube: @Tomâs ENGAGING HR
Instagram: @TomsEngagingHRPod
TikTok: @Toms.engaging.hr
Facebook: Tomâs Engaging HR Podcast
THANK YOU:
Intro and Theme song for Tomâs Engaging HR is âBetterâ by Break Signals. Break Signals just released their first studio album âA Steady Frequencyâ and it absolutely rocks, check it out here: Break Signals: A Steady Frequency
Fun fact, the song âThat Guyâ, which is also on the album, was inspired by a magician that was hanging around outside The HR Technology Conference in 2022Thanks to Jon Thurmond for your mentorship and help getting the podcast off the ground. I appreciate you lending the voice for the introduction as well!
Karl Pawlewicz: He was integral with helping with our logo, social media, and answering my 1,000 questions while building out the show. I appreciate you and your friendship for over 20 years, youâre the man!
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RyanMae joins us to talk about how her team came to the decision to roll out a 4 day workweek. Iâve heard this talked about a lot but excited to finally speak with someone whoâs successfully launched it for their organization. It may not be for every organization but Ryan shares how they came to the decision, rolled it out, where some of the pitfalls are, how they manage it and what itâs done for their company. We also dig into her time at the Transform HR Show, some stories of the ski season and how she started her career in HR at a ski resort. Itâs a great conversation and Ryan is just so awesome to speak with!
Our Guest: RyanMae McAvoy, Director of People Operations
Company: Blackthorn.io
LinkedIn, Ryan-Mae
Mentioned in the show:
Transform HR ConferenceBrittany Pietch Layoff on TikTok21b Slack ConsultingWhat Ryanâs Listening to: Everything from Michael Buble to Taylor swift to Jimmy BuffetKoe Wessel: Damn Near NormalT-Pain: On Top of The CoversWhere to find your host Tom Horne and Tomâs Engaging HR
LinkedIn: Tom Horne
Email: [email protected]
Personal Twitter: @TomsEngagingHR
Podcast Twitter Page: @EngagingHRPod
Youtube: @Tomâs ENGAGING HR
Instagram: @TomsEngagingHRPod
TikTok: @Toms.engaging.hr
Facebook: Tomâs Engaging HR Podcast
THANK YOU:
Intro and Theme song for Tomâs Engaging HR is âBetterâ by Break Signals. Break Signals just released their first studio album âA Steady Frequencyâ and it absolutely rocks, check it out here: Break Signals: A Steady Frequency
Fun fact, the song âThat Guyâ, which is also on the album, was inspired by a magician that was hanging around outside The HR Technology Conference in 2022Jon Thurmond: Thank you for your guidance, support and inspiration. Jon also recorded our introduction to the show, he's one of my favorite podcast voices!
Karl Pawlewicz: He was integral with helping with our logo, social media, and answering my 1,000 questions while building out the show. I appreciate you and your friendship for over 20 years, youâre the man!
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Christie joins the podcast to talk all about networking in HR. The conversation starts out talking about college sports before we get into some of the great place for HR to network and share Ideas. Christie talks about the bi-monthly #HRSocialHour Twitter chats and how you can find them. We also get into some of the other places to find a HR Community and some of the truly wild questions that get asked. Tune in, itâs a great conversation with a seasoned HR Leader!
Our Guest: Christie Engler, VP of HR
Company: Diversified Systems
Twitter, @christie_engler
LinkedIn, Christie Engler
Mentioned in the show:
#HRSocialHour Twitter Chats: 2 x a month on X (Twitter, Twix, whatever you may call it) on the 2nd and 4th Sunday of the month at 7PM ESTSearch #HRSocialHour and youâll find the chat on the above dates/times!The HR Social Hour Half Hour Podcast with Jon and WendyWhere to find your host Tom Horne and Tomâs Engaging HR
LinkedIn: Tom Horne
Email: [email protected]
Personal Twitter: @TomsEngagingHR
Podcast Twitter Page: @EngagingHRPod
Youtube: @Tomâs ENGAGING HR
Instagram: @TomsEngagingHRPod
TikTok: @Toms.engaging.hr
Facebook: Tomâs Engaging HR Podcast
THANK YOU:
Intro and Theme song for Tomâs Engaging HR is âBetterâ by Break Signals. Break Signals just released their first studio album âA Steady Frequencyâ and it absolutely rocks, check it out here: Break Signals: A Steady Frequency
Fun fact, the song âThat Guyâ, which is also on the album, was inspired by a magician that was hanging around outside The HR Technology Conference in 2022Karl Pawlewicz: He was integral with helping with our logo, social media, and answering my 1,000 questions while building out the show. I appreciate you and your friendship for over 20 years, youâre the man!
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This is our first episode with video: Check us out on YouTube Here: Tom's Engaging HR YouTube, Matt Meadows
In our 3rd episode Matt Meadows joins us to talk about the much debated topic of Performance Reviews. Does doing reviews once a year make the most sense for the employee and the business? We share stories of people we know engaged in months long review processes and explore ways that organizations can better leverage feedback to drive outcomes for both employees and the business. We also chat about buying houses in wild markets across the country and a super fun HR Hot Sauce Segment!
Our Guest: Matt Meadows
CEO and Co-founder of WorkStory, Matt Meadows, is working to reshape the landscape of performance management. Matt brings a wealth of experience from his time in various startups, working in a variety of leadership capacities from account management to marketing to customer relations. His entrepreneurial journey is marked by a relentless pursuit of efficiency and effectiveness in the workplace, which led him to co-found WorkStory. Frustrated by the outdated and time-consuming traditional performance reviews that failed to foster real improvement, Matt envisioned a new way forward.
Under Matt's leadership, WorkStory is pioneering the move away from conventional evaluation methods by implementing continuous feedback and data-driven insights. This approach not only engages employees more meaningfully but also streamlines the performance review process, making it quicker and more impactful. Matt's innovative mindset is backed by a solid foundation in management and entrepreneurship, earned from the University of Central Florida. Beyond his professional endeavors, he's an avid fan of the Florida Panthers and a staunch supporter of the rest of South Florida's professional sports teams. Matt also keeps active with frequent ultimate frisbee games.
Company: WorkStory
Twitter, @meadowsm
LinkedIn, Matt Meadows
Mentioned in the show:
SuperlistWhat Mattâs Listening to:
FreakonomicsRevisionist History PodcastCautionary Tales w/ Tim HarfordWhere to find your host Tom Horne and Tomâs Engaging HR
LinkedIn: Tom Horne
Email: [email protected]
Personal Twitter: @TomsEngagingHR
Podcast Twitter Page: @EngagingHRPod
Youtube: @Tomâs ENGAGING HR
Instagram: @TomsEngagingHRPod
TikTok: @Toms.engaging.hr
Facebook: Tomâs Engaging HR Podcast
THANK YOU:
Intro and Theme song for Tomâs Engaging HR is âBetterâ by Break Signals. Break Signals just released their first studio album âA Steady Frequencyâ and it absolutely rocks, check it out here: Break Signals: A Steady Frequency
Fun fact, the song âThat Guyâ, which is also on the album, was inspired by a magician that was hanging around outside The HR Technology Conference in 2022Karl Pawlewicz: He was integral with helping with our logo, social media, and answering my 1,000 questions while building out the show. I appreciate you and your friendship for over 20 years, youâre the man!
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In our 2nd Episode we connect with TA Leader Laura Mazzullo and dig into vulnerability, building walls, and burnout in HR. We get pretty deep into a pretty hot topic for many people, looking inward. Lauraâs compassionate approach and genuine desire to help leads us through a discussion addressing the outcomes of these pressures HR faces. Heck, we even hold up the mirrors to ourselves and unlock opportunities for empathy and to better support HR Leaders. We delve into how HR Leaders that are looking for positions can approach the search for their next great opportunity. Donât worry we still have plenty of fun talking about our favorite city, âbig saladsâ, and TikTok for HR folks.
Our Guest: Laura Mazzullo
Company: Founder/Owner at East Side Staffing
Twitter, @eastsidestaff
LinkedIn, Laura Mazzullo
Youtube: Learn With Laura
Mentioned in the show:
Ben Brooks on HR Happy Hour PodcastKelly SwinglerWhere to find your host Tom Horne and Tomâs Engaging HR
LinkedIn: Tom Horne
Email: [email protected]
Personal Twitter: @TomsEngagingHR
Podcast Twitter Page: @EngagingHRPod
Youtube: @Tomâs ENGAGING HR
Instagram: @TomsEngagingHRPod
TikTok: @Toms.engaging.hr
Facebook: Tomâs Engaging HR Podcast
THANK YOU:
Intro and Theme song for Tomâs Engaging HR is âBetterâ by Break Signals. Break Signals just released their first studio album âA Steady Frequencyâ and it absolutely rocks, check it out here: Break Signals: A Steady Frequency
Fun fact, the song âThat Guyâ, which is also on the album, was inspired by a magician that was hanging around outside The HR Technology Conference in 2022Karl Pawlewicz: He was integral with helping with our logo, social media, and answering my 1,000 questions while building out the show. I appreciate you and your friendship for over 20 years, youâre the man!
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Tom Horne has been podcasting in the HR space for over 3 years and is excited to release his new podcast: Tom's ENGAGING HR. In our Introductory Episode our guest Jon Thurmond turns the tables and interviews me to showcase what Tomâs Engaging HR is all about. We talk about what it takes to start a podcast, introduce the goals of the show, preview some of our upcoming guests and set the stage for Tomâs Engaging HR. We dig into some of the trends Iâm seeing in HR Today as well.
Our Guest Jon Thurmond is a HR Practitioner, Podcaster and community builder. You can find him and his podcast via the links here:
The HR Social Hour Half Hour Podcast
LinkedIn: Jon Thurmond
Twitter: @Jon_Thurmond
Mentioned in the show:
A new word was invented: Circularity (insert facepalm)All I Really Need to Know I Learned in Kindergarten: Uncommon Thoughts on Common ThingsADPDudesy PodcastâTwiXâ = an answer to what do you call twitter or x these daysâŠthanks Jon for sharing and thanks to whomever came up with it!What Podcasts is Tom Listening To?
What Now? with Trevor NoahPunk Rock HR, Laurie RuettimannHR Happy Hour with Trish McFarlane and Steve BoeseWhere to find your host Tom Horne and Tomâs Engaging HR
LinkedIn: Tom Horne
Personal Twitter: @TomsEngagingHR
Podcast Twitter Page: @EngagingHRPod
Youtube: @Tomâs ENGAGING HR
Instagram: @TomsEngagingHRPod
TikTok: @Toms.engaging.hr
Facebook: Tomâs Engaging HR Podcast
THANK YOU:
Intro and Theme song for Tomâs Engaging HR is âBetterâ by Break Signals. Break Signals just released their first studio album âA Steady Frequencyâ and it absolutly rocks, check it out here: Break Signals: A Steady Frequency
Fun fact, the song âThat Guyâ, which is also on the album, was inspired by a magician that was hanging around outside The HR Technology Conference in 2022Karl Pawlewicz: He was integral with helping with our logo, social media, and answering my 1,000 questions while building out the show. I appreciate you and your friendship for over 20 years, youâre the man!
