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In this episode of Live Players, Samo Burja and Erik Torenberg discuss the global influence of U.S. politics on Western countries, the persistence of Western civilization as a political unit, the synchronization of political interests via the internet, and the potential for significant right-wing and free speech shifts in Europe given increased American cultural influence.
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Two buttons meme: https://ih1.redbubble.net/image.2365085899.3351/st,small,507x507-pad,600x600,f8f8f8.jpg
The Clash of Civilizations: https://www.amazon.com/Clash-Civilizations-Remaking-World-Order/dp/1451628978
Bismark Analysis: https://brief.bismarckanalysis.com/
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HIGHLIGHTS FROM THE EPISODE:
Western civilization as a political unit continues to exist.
The U.S. presidency significantly influences global politics.
Cultural synchronization is evident across Western nations.
Free speech is becoming a central issue in Europe.
Political priorities in Europe are increasingly aligned with U.S. interests.
Social media plays a crucial role in shaping political discourse.
The concept of democracy in Europe is evolving.
There is a growing demand for free speech in Europe.
The internet's influence on free speech is undeniable.
Political change in the U.S. impacts global political dynamics. European countries lack true sovereignty due to external influences.
Client states like Canada and Europe have significant sway over US politics.
The introduction of free speech in Europe may lead to a rightward shift in politics.
Political identities in Europe are fluid and subject to change.
There is a growing demand for change in European political priorities.
Sovereignty requires both resource independence and a capable population.
Cultural power is often a reflection of military strength.
Admiration for military power influences cultural perceptions globally.
The US's cultural dominance is tied to its military power and commercialized culture.
The relationship between Europe and America is complex and evolving. -
Samo Burja and Erik Torenberg discuss the future of space colonization, touching on the implications of Mars and lunar settlements, the technological advancements driving space exploration, and how multi-planetary life might reshape human cultures, geopolitical dynamics, and economic structures.
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Starship: https://www.spacex.com/vehicles/starship/
(Pirate Wars) Moon Should Be a State: https://www.piratewires.com/p/moon-should-be-a-state
Artemis: https://www.nasa.gov/feature/artemis/
SLS: https://www.nasa.gov/humans-in-space/space-launch-system/
Boom Supersonic:https://boomsupersonic.com/
Blue Origin: https://www.blueorigin.com/
Referenced Live Players episodes:
The Turbulence of Boeing: Decline and Future Prospects: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1pmCK6CrK4
The Technology That Can Reshape Nations (Desalination): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_gEHhSXECs
Bismark Analysis: https://brief.bismarckanalysis.com/
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HIGHLIGHTS FROM THE EPISODE:
Human civilization may become multi-planetary in the near future.
Economic barriers to space travel are diminishing, making colonization feasible.
International treaties on space may not hold as nations pursue territorial claims.
The moon's resources could lead to a new space race among nations.
Cultural identity on Mars will evolve differently from Earth due to environmental factors.
Genetic engineering may be necessary for human adaptation to Mars.
Martian societies may develop a sense of pride and distinct identity over generations.
Life on Mars could resemble life on a submarine, fostering strong community bonds.
The relationship between Earth and Martian colonies may mirror historical colonial dynamics.
Martians may view Earthlings as privileged and less resilient. Martian communities will likely be isolated and self-sufficient.
Cultural identity on Mars may evolve independently from Earth.
Terraforming Mars could spark cultural debates among settlers.
Technological advancements will shape the culture of space colonies.
The moon may become an industrially important part of the solar system.
Future Martian society will value hard work and frugality.
Genetic adaptations may occur among humans living on different planets.
The colonization of space could lead to a return of genetic diversity.
AI could play a significant role in the future of space colonization.
The solar system has vast resources that will be explored and utilized. -
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In this episode of Live Players, Samo Burja and Erik Torenberg discuss Curtis Yarvin's influence on government efficiency ideas, the pitfalls of gridlock and bureaucratic decay, and how transformative figures and strategic decision-making affect national and corporate success.
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'The Interview': Curtis Yarvin Says Democracy is Done (The New York Times): https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/18/magazine/curtis-yarvin-interview.html
Curtis Yarvin on the End of American Democracy (Podcast): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcSil8NeQq8
Dwarkesh’s tweet: https://x.com/dwarkesh_sp/status/1881776987322376435
Samo’s Tweet: https://x.com/SamoBurja/status/1882525049003164147
Bismark Analysis: https://brief.bismarckanalysis.com/
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HIGHLIGHTS FROM THE EPISODE:
Curtis Yarvin's influence on the tech right is significant.
Natural selection does not apply to corporate functionality.
Leadership is crucial for the adaptability of institutions.
Government accountability is often lacking compared to corporate structures.
The risks of government failure can be catastrophic.
Innovation is stifled by bureaucratic gridlock.
Democracy may not function effectively in a gridlocked system.
Yarvin's vision includes anarcho-capitalist elements.
Government spending can be inefficient and wasteful.
Honesty about trade-offs in governance is essential. The one-child policy in China is a prime example of disastrous governance.
Sweden's COVID policy was more effective than many Western approaches.
Inefficient government can have astronomical costs on society.
Political ideologies are often more aligned than they appear.
Curtis Yarvin's ideas challenge conventional political thought.
Intellectual diversity is crucial for a healthy discourse.
Engaging with controversial thinkers can strengthen our understanding.
The digital age offers new platforms for intellectual exchange.
Societal progress requires harnessing the energies of the nation.
Democracy is not the end of political evolution. -
Samo Burja discusses his "Great Founder Theory," in the Word of DaaS Podcast with Auren Hoffman, arguing that exceptional individuals throughout history have shaped civilization by creating influential institutions, while also exploring modern challenges around societal trust, fertility rates, and the changing dynamics between young and old generations in contemporary society.
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HIGHLIGHTS FROM THE EPISODE:
Great founders create enduring institutions and systems that shape civilization's trajectory, not just through individual achievements but by establishing lasting frameworks like America's founding fathers or Bismarck's unification of Germany.
Trust has eroded across most institutions since the 1950s, with only the military retaining significant public confidence, though business interactions remain surprisingly trusted in the US.
Modern parents have become excessively protective, severely restricting children's independence and forcing youth culture to exist primarily online rather than in physical spaces.
Global fertility rates are declining sharply across all societies, driven by factors like intensive parenting costs, delayed marriages, and career prioritization.
Technology and longevity advances risk pushing parenthood too late in life, potentially disrupting important intergenerational connections and cultural transmission.
Taking extended breaks from successful careers to read, reflect, and reset perspective is undervalued but crucial for leadership development and personal growth. -
This week on Live Players, Samo Burja and Erik Torenberg discuss the significance of desalination technology, its advancements, costs, and potential to transform scarcity in regions with water shortages, highlighting how countries like Israel, Singapore, and the Gulf monarchies have employed these technologies and speculating on the geopolitical and environmental impacts.—📰 Be notified early when Turpentine's drops new publication: https://www.turpentine.co/exclusiveaccess 🙏 Help shape our show by taking our quick listener survey at https://bit.ly/TurpentinePulse —RECOMMENDED PODCAST:🎙️Check out Modern Relationships, where Erik Torenberg interviews tech power couples and leading thinkers to explore how ambitious people actually make partnerships work. Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/id1786227593 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5hJzs0gDg6lRT6r10mdpVg YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ModernRelationshipsPod —SPONSOR:☁️ Oracle Cloud Infrastructure (OCI) is a single platform for your infrastructure, database, application development, and AI needs. OCI has four to eight times the bandwidth of other clouds and offers one consistent price. Oracle is offering to cut your cloud bill in half. See if your company qualifies at oracle.com/turpentine —LINKS:The Untapped Potential of Desalination: https://brief.bismarckanalysis.com/p/the-untapped-potential-of-desalination 1957, 1978, 2005 Chicken Sizes diagram: https://compote.slate.com/images/4e407854-6360-4172-a85e-d7b8c64fd365.jpg?width=1200 Growth, efficiency, and yield of commercial broilers from 1957, 1978, and 2005: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0032579119385505Live Players: Can China Power Its Rise?: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOei7kZjuZU Live Players: The Possibility of Human Extinction: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEQEMpxLnGA&t=42s Bismark Analysis: https://brief.bismarckanalysis.com/—X / TWITTER:@eriktorenberg@samoburja@turpentinemedia—HIGHLIGHTS FROM THE EPISODE:Desalination technology has advanced significantly, making it a viable solution for water scarcity.Many countries, including Israel and Saudi Arabia, rely heavily on desalination for their water supply.The cost of desalination is relatively low, making it accessible for moderately developed countries.Global hunger is more about distribution than food production; we produce enough food for everyone.Desalination could transform deserts into green landscapes, enhancing the livability of arid regions.Geopolitical implications of desalination include potential shifts in power dynamics and national branding.Innovative projects could lead to significant economic development in countries with large desert areas.Technological advancements can change the natural geography of the world, making previously uninhabitable areas livable.Future technologies, such as solar mirrors, could enhance living conditions in extreme climates.The importance of outdoor spaces and greenery for human well-being cannot be underestimated. Re-engineering urban environments can significantly enhance human well-being.Water wars are unnecessary; technology can provide water abundance.Geopolitical tensions often stem from resource management disputes.China's food security is bolstered by technological advancements in agriculture.Climate change poses challenges, but industrial civilization can adapt.Electric vehicles are crucial for China's national security strategy.Automated farming and construction technologies can revolutionize industries.Exceptional talent is rare and should be actively recruited.The U.S. must focus on manufacturing capabilities in the semiconductor race against China.Innovative immigration strategies could attract top global talent.
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Samo Burja and Erik Torenberg discuss the impact of social media platforms like Twitter, now X, especially under Elon Musk's ownership. They explore the changing political landscape, the dynamics of media personalities, and the evolving role of social media in shaping public discourse and political behavior.
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HIGHLIGHTS FROM THE EPISODE:
Peter Thiel's thoughts have significantly influenced tech philosophy.
Twitter's evolution reflects broader societal changes in communication.
Elon Musk's acquisition of Twitter highlights the power of individual influence.
Political polarization is exacerbated by social media dynamics.
The future of politics may hinge on personal branding and media personalities.
Censorship in the digital age poses challenges to free speech.
Corporate culture increasingly intersects with political beliefs.
Social media platforms are arenas for elite discourse.
The First Amendment plays a crucial role in protecting online expression.
Political rebranding is becoming more common in the social media landscape. There's a desire to open the digital frontier.
Cultural attitudes towards technology have shifted over the years.
Europe's aging population affects its political dynamism.
The political economy in Europe is in need of reform.
American innovation is often stifled by older generations' preferences.
The left struggles to find its voice in a right-dominated media landscape.
Emerging left-wing voices may arise from unexpected places.
Generational shifts will influence political and cultural dynamics.
The digital age allows for new forms of activism and expression.
The future of left-wing culture may depend on new, charismatic leaders. -
Samo Burja and Erik Torenberg the current situation in Syria, including the impact of President Assad's exile, the role of various factions and foreign powers, and the challenges of establishing a stable government amid ongoing conflict.
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HIGHLIGHTS FROM THE EPISODE:
Middle Eastern governments often struggle with instability due to ethnic and religious divisions.
The Syrian civil war exemplifies the challenges of governance in the region.
Assad's fall may not significantly alter the power dynamics in Syria.
Kurdish autonomy is a critical factor in the future of Syria.
Islamist groups pose a significant challenge to stability in the region.
Turkey's ambitions in Syria complicate the geopolitical landscape.
Demographic changes will impact the political future of Syria.
Foreign support has not been effective in sustaining the Assad regime.
The future of Syria is uncertain, with many factions vying for power.
Israel and Turkey's conflicting interests will shape Syria's future. Nationalism is a simple legitimizing political formula.
Arab nationalism struggles due to the lack of unified representation.
Geopolitical challenges hinder the formation of a unified Arab state.
Islamism has emerged as an alternative unifying ideology.
Political projects can lose legitimacy through repeated failures.
The Taliban's legitimacy is rooted in religious authority.
Democracy can be a powerful legitimizing force, even in non-democratic systems.
Supporting stable monarchies may be more effective than backing rebel groups.
Africa's political landscape is influenced by tribal and clan structures.
Demographic changes will significantly impact the future of the Middle East. -
Samo Burja and Rudyard Lynch explore global power shifts and the psychological impacts of modernity, drawing parallels between current societal changes and historical patterns from medieval times through the 1600s to analyze contemporary challenges in technology, surveillance, and social control. For full show notes, visit: https://highlightai.com/share/73c93dab-ae97-4cd1-af2b-e71406a6c16b
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In this episode of Live Players, Samo Burja and Erik Torenberg discuss the dynamics of populism in politics. They analyze its strengths, limitations, and impact on institutions, governments, and political strategies, with a deep dive into historical and contemporary examples, including Trump, Brexit, and Orban's Hungary. For full show notes, visit: https://highlightai.com/share/d47475a8-fe9e-44a1-aa34-83e0621c8f6a
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In this episode of Live Players, Samo Burja and Erik Torenberg discuss how Trump's victory signals a new alliance between right-wing politics and tech industry leaders like Elon Musk, while exploring the challenges and opportunities of reforming government institutions through technological innovation. For full show notes, visit: https://highlightai.com/share/c1bed565-e2a0-4a82-bb0b-6bd36b8d673d
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Today on Live Players, we’re releasing an interview from Steve Hsu on the Manifold Podcast with Samo Burja. They unravel the complexities of our world, discussing China's rise, Europe's future, and industrial shifts. This episode delves into unique research methods, journalism challenges, and the dynamic ecosystem of Silicon Valley. They explored urbanization impacts, labor shortages, and the evolution of cultural and political movements, and the strategic roles of industry giants, the potential for retired tech experts in science, and the crossroads where intellectual life meets venture capital.
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(00:00) Intro
(02:22) Discussion on Palladium Magazine
(11:56) Insights on Bismarck Analysis
(19:50) The role of technology and innovation
(20:43) Sponsors: Weights & Biases | Brave
(33:17) Effective altruism and rationalism
(49:53) Global technological collaboration
(50:29) China's strategic moves in tech
(51:34) US and South Korea's strategic options
(53:59) China's provincial strategies
(55:25) China vs. South Korea in various industries
(56:58) The Future of Europe and its challenges
(01:15:08) Urbanization and its impact on fertility
(01:27:15) Intellectual pursuits and modern challenges
(01:37:37) Wrap -
This episode of Live Players centers on the alarming issue of declining fertility rates worldwide, examining specific country examples such as Japan, South Korea, and Turkey, and the societal and technological implications of these demographic changes.
Samo Burja and Erik Torenberg explore potential interventions, such as tax breaks for families, and the possibility of extreme measures like state-managed reproduction programs. They also tackle cultural and economic factors influencing fertility and the urgency of addressing this underpopulation crisis to prevent civilizational collapse.
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LINKS:
Bismark Analysis: https://brief.bismarckanalysis.com/
Who is Portugal For? by Vasco Queirós: https://www.palladiummag.com/2024/02/23/who-is-portugal-for/
The Long Now Foundation: https://longnow.org/
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TIMESTAMPS:
(00:00) Intro
(00:29) Demographic challenges and fertility crisis
(02:07) Global fertility trends and anomalies
(07:50) The impact of modernity on fertility
(14:04) Future population projections and concerns
(16:52) Sponsor: Brave
(17:56) Life expectancy and healthspan
(22:42) Potential solutions and interventions
(31:17) The implications of declining fertility rates
(34:04) Urbanization and population shifts
(36:19) The future of industrial society
(38:57) AI and human extinction scenarios
(41:51) Cultural and political dynamics of fertility
(50:52) Innovative solutions to population decline
(58:33) The ethics of genetic engineering
(59:53) Wrap -
In this episode of Live Players, Erik Torenberg and Samo Burja discuss the unique role of Palladium Magazine as a non-profit that promotes intellectual and cultural community-building. They highlight the magazine’s focus on 'governance futurism' and the importance of creating new and inspiring thought while remaining non-partisan. They also explore the concept of functional elites and the need to rejuvenate cultural and intellectual scenes, with specific examples from San Francisco's dynamic environment. They also cover the broader social and political implications of modern tech-centric culture and its potential future trajectories.
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Patrick McKenzie (@patio11) talks to experts who understand the complicated but not unknowable systems we rely on. You might be surprised at how quickly Patrick and his guests can put you in the top 1% of understanding for stock trading, tech hiring, and more.
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Bismark Analysis: https://brief.bismarckanalysis.com/
Palladium Magazine: https://www.palladiummag.com/
Quit Your Job: https://www.palladiummag.com/2022/01/06/quit-your-job/
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TIMESTAMPS:
(00:00) Intro
(00:28) The vision behind Palladium Magazine
(00:45) Challenges and opportunities in intellectual projects
(01:46) The role of Palladium in modern discourse
(04:49) Governance futurism and technological change
(14:51) The importance of functional elites
(20:20) Reviving public discourse
(24:29) Intellectual Renaissance in San Francisco
(25:32) Silicon Valley's existential questions
(26:47) The rise of performance art in tech
(28:53) The cultural impact of social media influencers
(31:06) San Francisco's resurgence post-covid
(32:11) The new ethos of tech and housing
(37:59) The role of legacy institutions and succession
(41:44) The importance of writing for intellectual growth
(43:10) Encouraging young intellectuals
(45:41) Conclusion and future discussions -
In today’s episode of Live Players, we’re featuring a discussion between Samo Burja, Rudyard Lynch and Erik Torenberg about the inherent differences between civilizations and their impact on history and politics. They explore the parallels and distinctions between ancient civilizations like Babylon and modern entities like Silicon Valley, the influence of Abrahamic religions, and how societal patterns challenge our current understanding.
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Subscribe on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/36Kqo3BMMUBGTDo1IEYihm
Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/history-102-with-whatifalthists-rudyard-lynch-and/id1730633913
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@History102-qg5oj
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Eavesdrop on Keith Rabois, Kevin Ryan, Logan Bartlett, and Zach Weinberg's monthly backchannel. They unpack their hottest takes on the future of tech, business, venture, investing, and politics.
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🎙️Complex Systems with Patrick McKenzie
Patrick McKenzie (@patio11) talks to experts who understand the complicated but not unknowable systems we rely on. You might be surprised at how quickly Patrick and his guests can put you in the top 1% of understanding for stock trading, tech hiring, and more.
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3Mos4VE3figVXleHDqfXOH
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Whatifalthist YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/Whatifalthist
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TIMESTAMPS:
(00:00) Intro
(00:29) A deep dive into civilizational differences
(03:11) The influence of Abrahamic religions
(07:53) Classical vs. modern western civilization
(12:21) The rise and fall of civilizations
(16:59) Literacy and its impact on societies
(20:30) Sponsor: Brave
(26:20) Modern civilization and its roots
(40:41) The future of religion and technology
(52:21) Obscure civilizations and their impact
(57:05) Wrap -
This week on Live Players, Samo Burja and Erik Torenberg debate the merit and harms of globalization. They explore the implications of Peter Thiel's views on globalization potentially hindering innovation, and analyze the historical context and current impacts of globalization on innovation, trade, and political stability. They also discuss the resilience and adaptability of different economic policies, the role of regional industries, and the influence of technological advancements on global power dynamics.
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Eavesdrop on Keith Rabois, Kevin Ryan, Logan Bartlett, and Zach Weinberg's monthly backchannel. They unpack their hottest takes on the future of tech, business, venture, investing, and politics.
Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/this-wont-last-with-keith-rabois-kevin-ryan-logan/id1765665937
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2HwSNeVLL1MXy0RjFPyOSz
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ThisWontLastpodcast
🎙️Complex Systems with Patrick McKenzie
Patrick McKenzie (@patio11) talks to experts who understand the complicated but not unknowable systems we rely on. You might be surprised at how quickly Patrick and his guests can put you in the top 1% of understanding for stock trading, tech hiring, and more.
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3Mos4VE3figVXleHDqfXOH
Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/complex-systems-with-patrick-mckenzie-patio11/id1753399812
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TIMESTAMPS:
00:00 Intro
00:28 The debate on globalization
02:21 Economic impacts of globalization
09:01 Historical context of global trade
16:26 Political implications of globalization
22:07 Future of globalization and political centralization
27:33 Sponsor: Brave
28:40 Potential scenarios for World War III
34:46 The rise of network states
44:42 Populism and immigration policies
49:46 Wrap -
In this episode of Live Players, we’re releasing a conversation between Nathan Labenz of the Cognitive Revolution Podcast and Samo Burja on the strategic dynamics of artificial intelligence through a geopolitical lens. They discuss AI's trajectory, the chip supply chain, US-China relations, and the challenges of AI safety and militarization.
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YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ThisWontLastpodcast
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The Cognitive Revolution Website: https://www.cognitiverevolution.ai
Bismarck Analysis: https://www.bismarckanalysis.com/
Subscribe to the Bismarck Brief: https://brief.bismarckanalysis.com/
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Samo Burja:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/samo-burja
Twitter: https://twitter.com/SamoBurja
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TIMESTAMPS:
(00:00) Intro
(01:11) The evolution and Impact of AI
(03:17) Scientific progress and AI
(09:41) The role of AI scientists
(11:57) Challenges in AI development
(18:24) Sponsor: Brave
(19:27) The economic impact of generative AI
(23:49) The Cambrian Explosion of different definitions of intelligence
(28:23) Strategic advice for national governments on AI
(37:05) US-China economic competition
(40:38) Other live players in the global AI landscape
(41:34) The rise of Indian and European AI giants
(44:51) The origins and implications of US-China AI Rivalry
(46:57) The chip ban and its consequences
(48:57) Strategies for US technological leadership
(50:07) The role of ideological diversity in AI development
(53:53) Avoiding the AI arms race
(57:45) The future of AI: weaponization vs. peaceful applications
(01:12:57) Open source and global coordination
(01:13:56) Generative AI in personal workflows
(01:17:33) Wrap -
In this episode of Live Players, Erik Torenberg and Samo Burja are joined by Ben Landau-Taylor, a Senior Analyst at Bismarck Analysis. Ben recently published an article in Palladium Magazine about the pervasive problem of fraud in academia. They discussed how fraudulent activities, particularly in medical research, often go undetected due to flawed peer review processes and institutional protectionism. They explore key cases, and possible solutions, including external watchdogs, intellectual authorities and regulatory bodies in maintaining academic integrity.
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Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2HwSNeVLL1MXy0RjFPyOSz
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ThisWontLastpodcast
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The Academic Culture of Fraud: https://www.palladiummag.com/2024/08/02/the-academic-culture-of-fraud/
Bismarck Brief: https://brief.bismarckanalysis.com/
Bismarck Analysis: https://www.bismarckanalysis.com/
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Twitter: https://twitter.com/benlandautaylor
Samo Burja:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/samo-burja
Twitter: https://twitter.com/SamoBurja
Erik Torrenberg:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/eriktorenberg/
Twitter: https://twitter.com/eriktorenberg
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TIMESTAMPS:
(00:00) Intro
(01:32) Ben’s article: "The Academic Culture of Fraud" in Palladium magazine
(03:36) Examples of fraudulent studies and researchers (Sylvain Lesné case)
(05:29) Incentives and cultural factors enabling fraud
(07:35) Historical context and modern academia
(10:46) Scientific fraud and its consequences
(12:48) Intellectual authority and legitimacy
(19:50) Sponsor: Brave
(26:49) External pressure on academia
(28:52) Role of journalism and other institutions in exposing academic fraud
(31:24) The need for external oversight in academia
(32:12) The complex relationship between the government and academia
(34:13) Proposals for scientific integrity
(39:56) Challenges in science and bureaucracy
(43:21) Nonprofit solutions for scientific fraud
(49:42) Venture capital and scientific integrity
(54:02) Overview of Bismarck Analysis and its work in strategic research & consulting
(56:54) Wrap -
In this episode of Live Players, Erik Torenberg and Samo Burja explore why mass immigration may not solve Europe's economic woes.
They talk about cultural assimilation difficulties, political tensions, and potential long-term consequences for European societies.
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TIMESTAMPS:
(00:00) Introduction
(00:39) Challenges of European Immigration
(00:41) Historical Context and Current Events
(01:26) Integration and Multiculturalism
(06:54) Labor Markets and Economic Impact
(21:44) Questioning Immigration as a Solution
(27:12) Sponsor: Babbel | Brave
(29:40) Proposed Solutions and Predictions
(41:38) Final Thoughts and Next Steps
(48:56) Conclusion -
In this episode of Live Players, Erik Torenberg and Samo Burja dive deep into the complex transformation of Eastern Europe since the fall of communism. They discuss the region's economic evolution from small business-driven economies to potential tech hubs, examine how countries like Poland balance traditional values with Western influences, and analyze the impact of EU integration. Samo offers predictions about Eastern Europe's economic growth, social changes, and geopolitical alignments, providing a comprehensive look at one of Europe's most dynamic regions and its place on the global stage.
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YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ThisWontLastpodcast
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TIMESTAMPS:
(00:00) Intro
(00:28) Diving into Eastern Europe
(00:48) Old Europe vs. New Europe
(02:06) Political and cultural divides
(02:22) Nuclear energy and policy differences
(03:37) Immigration policies and economic impact
(05:41) Economic growth in Eastern Europe
(07:41) Demographic challenges and migration
(08:47) Western Europe's dependency on Eastern Europe
(11:45) Taxation and business environment
(15:07) Sponsors: Babbel | Brave
(22:19) Small business and political landscape
(24:04) Education and credentialism
(27:46) Comparing nationalism and economic models in Europe
(28:33) Generational shifts in Eastern Europe
(29:46) Gender norms and education in Eastern Europe
(34:46) Westernization and cultural convergence
(36:59) Future economic and social trends in Eastern Europe
(39:13) Influence of American ideology and media
(53:08) Geopolitical dynamics and defense industry
(55:14) Wrap -
In this episode of Live Players, Erik Torenberg and Samo Burja dive deep into the European Union. They examine the bloc's historical foundation centered on peace and economic prosperity, contrasting its ambitious goals with its current realities. They discuss EU's challenges, including a fragmented digital market, inconsistencies in labor and defense policies, and bureaucratic hurdles. They also explore Brexit's impact, the interplay between the EU and NATO, and the implications of energy policies, immigration, and the possibility of a European superstate.
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TIMESTAMPS:
(00:00) Intro
(00:28) The Origins and Goals of the EU
(01:56) Economic Challenges and Market Scale
(04:57) Digital and Labor Market Fragmentation
(08:18) The Vision of a European Super State
(12:54) European Defense and Foreign Policy
(18:24) Scientific and Industrial Policy in the EU
(23:56) SPONSORS: Babbel | Brave
(26:21) Brexit: Expectations vs. Reality
(30:22) Economic and Political Tensions in Europe
(33:05) The Future of the EU: Scenarios and Predictions
(35:26) Challenges of EU Expansion and Decision Making
(36:54) Energy Policies and Geopolitical Implications
(42:48) The Future of European Integration
(44:55) The Role of Higher Education in Europe
(51:41) Multiculturalism and Immigration in Europe
(58:46) Thoughts on European Integration
(59:49) Wrap - Show more
