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We just finished reading Exodus,
so it's time for Husband and Wife to play another round of a game called You're Always Wrong.
You may be shocked to learn that we've found a few contradictions in the Bible. No wonder it's so easy to cherry-pick quotes to back up any claim!
Husband and Wife learn how little they retained of the Book of Exodus, even though it's supposedly the most important book of the Bible. They fail a quiz and fondly recall Aaron's special stick. Then they learn that HOLYthere were indeed all these other gods floating around back then. Wife bores Husband with details and he is a whiney .
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Husband and Wife learn how little they retained of the Book of Exodus, even though it's supposedly the most important book of the Bible. They fail a quiz and fondly recall Aaron's special stick. Then they learn that HOLYthere were indeed all these other gods floating around back then. Wife bores Husband with details and he is a whiney .
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The Book of Exodus is a story in the Hebrew Bible (or Old Testament) that tells the tale of the Israelites' escape from slavery in Egypt. According to the story, God intervened on behalf of the Israelites and forced the Egyptians to free them. The Israelites then traveled through the desert to Mount Sinai, where they received the Ten Commandments from God.
From an atheist perspective, there is no evidence to support the claims made in the Book of Exodus. There is no archaeological evidence of a large group of people suddenly leaving Egypt, and there is no scientific evidence to support the idea of God intervening in the natural world.
The Book of Exodus is likely a collection of myths and legends that were passed down orally for generations before being written down. It is possible that some of the events described in the book may have some basis in reality, but there is no way to know for sure.
The Book of Exodus is an important text in the Hebrew Bible and in Judaism, but it is important to remember that it is a work of fiction. There is no reason to believe that the events described in the book actually happened.
Here are some additional points that an atheist might make about the Book of Exodus:
The story of the Israelites' escape from Egypt is similar to other ancient myths about people being enslaved and then escaping.The Ten Commandments are similar to other ancient ethical codes.The Book of Exodus contains many supernatural elements, such as the parting of the Red Sea and the giving of the Ten Commandments.There is no scientific evidence to support the supernatural elements in the Book of Exodus.Ultimately, whether or not one believes the claims made in the Book of Exodus is a matter of faith. However, it is important to be aware of the lack of evidence for these claims and to critically evaluate the text before accepting it as historical truth.
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Husband and Wife cover Exodus chapter 39: The Making of the Priests' Garments / The Tabernacle Articles Completed; and chapter 40: The Setting Up of the Tabernacle / The Cloud Over the Tabernacle. We are disappointed to learn the pomegranates were made of yarn. Oholiab gets no respect. A cloud plays Red Light - Green Light with Moses and his peeps.
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In Exodus chapters 39 and 40, the Bible describes the construction of the Tabernacle, a portable sanctuary that the Israelites would use to worship God during their travels in the wilderness. The Tabernacle was made up of a number of different parts, including a tent, an altar, and various furniture. The Bible describes in detail how each of these parts was made, using gold, silver, and other precious materials.
From an atheist perspective, there is no reason to believe that the Tabernacle actually existed. The Bible is a religious text, and it is not unusual for religious texts to contain stories that are not historically accurate. In this case, the story of the Tabernacle may have been inspired by real events, but it is likely that the details have been exaggerated or embellished.
The Bible also claims that the Tabernacle was built according to instructions that God gave to Moses. However, there is no scientific evidence to support this claim. It is more likely that the Tabernacle was built by human beings, who used their own skills and knowledge to create a structure that they believed would be pleasing to God.
The story of the Tabernacle is an important part of the Bible, but it is important to remember that it is just a story. There is no reason to believe that it is anything more than that.
Here are some additional points that an atheist might make about Exodus chapters 39 and 40:
The Bible is not a reliable historical document. It was written centuries after the events it describes, and it contains many inaccuracies and contradictions.The story of the Tabernacle is similar to other stories from ancient cultures. This suggests that it may have been borrowed from these cultures, rather than being based on real events.The Bible's description of the Tabernacle is full of symbolism. This suggests that it is more about religious faith than about historical accuracy.Ultimately, whether or not one believes the story of the Tabernacle is a matter of faith. There is no scientific evidence to support the claim that it actually happened. However, the story can still be seen as a valuable part of the Bible, as it provides insights into the beliefs and practices of the ancient Israelites.
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Husband and Wife cover Exodus chapter 37: The Furnishings of the Tabernacle; and chapter 38: The Court of the Tabernacle / The Supervision of the Work / The Metal of the Sanctuary. We discover that "donations" were actually taxes because the writers were clearly all liars. Still wondering, wtf is a shekel? And why is Husband being such a whiney ?
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In Exodus chapters 37 and 38, we read about the construction of the Tabernacle, a portable sanctuary that the Israelites would use to worship God during their journey in the wilderness. The chapters describe in detail the materials and measurements of the Tabernacle, as well as the specific instructions that God gave to Moses for its construction.
From an atheist perspective, these chapters can be seen as a collection of myths or legends that were created by the ancient Israelites to explain the origins of their religion. The descriptions of the Tabernacle are likely based on real objects that the Israelites used for worship, but the specific instructions and measurements are likely to be exaggerated or fictional.
The chapters also reflect the Israelites' belief in a hierarchical and patriarchal society. The Tabernacle is described as being divided into three parts, with the innermost part being reserved for the high priest. This reflects the Israelites' belief that only the high priest could have direct access to God.
Overall, Exodus chapters 37 and 38 provide a glimpse into the religious beliefs and practices of the ancient Israelites. While these chapters may not be historically accurate, they do offer valuable insights into the development of Judaism.
Here are some specific examples of how the chapters can be interpreted from an atheist perspective:
The description of the Tabernacle as being made of gold, silver, and precious stones can be seen as a way of glorifying God and the Israelites' religion.The instructions for the construction of the Tabernacle are so detailed that they are unlikely to have been based on actual events. This suggests that they may have been created later, as a way of preserving the Israelites' religious traditions.The division of the Tabernacle into three parts reflects the Israelites' belief in a hierarchical society, with the high priest at the top. This belief is also reflected in the Bible's description of other aspects of Israelite society, such as the monarchy.Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Husband and Wife cover
Exodus chapter 35:
Regulations for the Sabbath / Israel to Bring an Offering / The Tabernacle Articles / The People Bring the Offering / The Call of Bezaleel and Aholiab;
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Exodus chapter 36:
Moses Restrains the People from Bringing Gifts / The Making of the Tabernacle.
We question how much gold the people had left to donate after that whole golden calf debacle; how moved they actually were to make donations when the penalty was probably death; whether too many donations is a bad thing; why people always gotta be mowing their lawns; and how to get our hands on a pair of some dope- Satan kicks.
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In Exodus chapters 35 and 36, we read about the construction of the Tabernacle, a portable sanctuary that the Israelites would use to worship God during their journey in the wilderness. The Bible describes in detail the materials and measurements that were used for the Tabernacle, as well as the specific tasks that were assigned to different groups of people.
From an atheist perspective, these chapters can be interpreted as a reflection of the ancient Israelites' beliefs and practices. The Tabernacle was a physical representation of their faith in God, and the detailed instructions for its construction suggest that it was an important part of their religious life. However, there is no evidence to suggest that the Tabernacle actually existed, and it is likely that these chapters are simply a literary account of the Israelites' beliefs.
The Bible is a collection of ancient texts that has been interpreted in many different ways over the centuries. There is no one definitive interpretation of Exodus chapters 35 and 36, and atheists are free to interpret them however they see fit. Some atheists may view these chapters as a historical record of the Israelites' beliefs and practices, while others may see them as a work of fiction or mythology. Ultimately, the meaning of these chapters is up to the individual reader to decide.
The Bible is not a reliable historical document. There is no archaeological evidence to support the existence of the Tabernacle, and the events described in these chapters may have been exaggerated or fabricated.The Bible is a product of its time. The beliefs and practices described in these chapters reflect the ancient Israelites' understanding of the world, which was very different from our own.The Bible is open to interpretation. There is no one right way to understand these chapters, and atheists are free to interpret them however they see fit.Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Husband and Wife cover Exodus chapter 33:
The Lord's Presence Promised;
and chapter 34:The Second Table of Stone / Israel Warned of the Idolatry of Canaan / The Three Anointed Feasts / Moses and the Tables of the Law.
Husband requests milk and loses his cool when God continues to be a hypocrite. Also, it turns out that Yahweh literally translates to jealous, which makes total sense. And what, pray tell, is God's beef with yeast?
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In Exodus chapters 33 and 34, the biblical god gives Moses the Ten Commandments and other laws for the Israelites to follow. From an atheist perspective, these laws are simply the product of human imagination. They are not divinely inspired, and they do not have any special moral or ethical authority.
The Ten Commandments, for example, are a list of religious and moral prohibitions that are often cited as the foundation of Western law and morality. However, from an atheist perspective, these commandments are no more or less valid than any other set of rules or laws. They are simply the product of a particular culture and time period, and they reflect the values and beliefs of those who created them.
The other laws that Moses receives from god in Exodus chapters 33 and 34 are similarly open to interpretation. Some of these laws may have been practical or necessary for the Israelites at the time, while others may simply reflect the prejudices or biases of the people who wrote them.
Ultimately, the meaning and significance of Exodus chapters 33 and 34 are up to each individual to decide. However, from an atheist perspective, these chapters are simply a collection of ancient texts that provide insights into the beliefs and values of the people who wrote them. They do not provide any evidence for the existence of a god, nor do they have any special moral or ethical authority.
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Husband and Wife cover Exodus chapter 31:
The Call of Bezaleel and Aholiab / The Sabbath as a Sign;
and chapter 32:The Golden Calf.
Aaron leads Israel into an orgy. God throws another tantrum. People are murdered, survivors do shots of Goldschläger, and there's yet another plague. Finally, let's be honest - who among us DOESN'T resent buying light bulbs?
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Exodus 31
In this chapter, God gives Moses instructions for building the Tabernacle, a portable temple that the Israelites would use to worship him. God also gives Moses the Ten Commandments, which are a set of laws that the Israelites were supposed to follow.
From an atheist perspective, these events could be interpreted as a human creation. The Israelites may have been inspired by their own experiences and beliefs to create these stories. The Ten Commandments, for example, may have been based on existing ethical codes or laws.
Exodus 32
In this chapter, the Israelites make a golden calf while Moses is up on Mount Sinai receiving the Ten Commandments. When Moses returns and sees what they have done, he is furious and breaks the tablets of the Ten Commandments.
From an atheist perspective, this event could be interpreted as a reflection of human nature. The Israelites were not perfect, and they were capable of making mistakes. They may have been tempted by the golden calf, which represented their own desires and ambitions.
The story of Exodus 31 and 32 can be seen as a cautionary tale about the dangers of religious extremism. It shows how people can be led astray by their own beliefs, and how those beliefs can be used to justify harmful actions.
Here are some additional points that could be made in an atheist summary of Exodus chapters 31 and 32:
The Ten Commandments are not unique to the Israelites. Similar codes of law can be found in other ancient cultures.There is no archaeological evidence to support the existence of the Tabernacle or the golden calf.The story of Exodus is full of contradictions and inconsistencies.Overall, an atheist interpretation of Exodus chapters 31 and 32 would view these events as products of human imagination and creativity, rather than as divine revelation.
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Husband and Wife cover Exodus chapter 29 - 30:
The Consecration of Aaron and His Sons / The Daily Offerings
The Alter of Incense / The Atonement Money / The Laver / The Anointing Oil and the Incense.
Are there any living descendants of Aaron still puttering around today? Are they aware they'll die if they don't wash their hands? What are the varying degrees of holiness? How much is a shekel? What exactly is the "usual" method for all these recipes?
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Exodus 29
This chapter describes the elaborate rituals that the Israelites were commanded to perform in order to consecrate their priests and make them holy. The rituals involved sacrificing animals, anointing the priests with oil, and dressing them in special garments.
From an atheist perspective, these rituals are meaningless. There is no evidence that they have any power to make the priests holy or to connect them with God. The rituals are simply a way for the Israelites to express their devotion to their religion.
Exodus 30
This chapter describes the construction of the altar of incense and the laver for washing. The altar of incense was to be used for burning incense, which was believed to be a pleasing scent to God. The laver was to be used for washing the priests' hands and feet before they performed the rituals.
From an atheist perspective, these objects are also meaningless. There is no evidence that incense is pleasing to God or that washing the priests' hands and feet has any religious significance. These objects are simply a way for the Israelites to express their devotion to their religion.
In addition to the rituals and objects described in these chapters, Exodus also contains many other passages that describe the Israelites' religious practices. These passages are all based on the belief that there is a God who intervenes in human affairs and who requires the Israelites to follow a set of rules and regulations.
Atheists do not believe in God, so they do not believe that these rituals and objects have any religious significance. They believe that the Israelites developed these practices as a way to express their devotion to their religion and to create a sense of community.
The rituals and objects described in Exodus chapters 29 and 30 are just a few examples of the many religious practices that are described in the Bible. Atheists do not believe in the religious significance of these practices, but they can still appreciate their cultural and historical value.
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Husband and Wife cover Exodus chapter 27:
The Alter of Burnt Offering / The Court of the Tabernacle / The Tending of the Lamp
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Chapter 28:The Garments for the Priests.
Poor Aaron has to carry around like a zillion pet rocks on his fancy getup. Wife is gonna hit up Etsy for a robe like the one Arron gets to wear! Then she's gonna tinkle like his bells.
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Exodus 27: This chapter describes the construction of the tabernacle, a portable sanctuary that the Israelites were to use during their travels in the wilderness. The tabernacle was to be made of wood and covered with skins, and it was to have three parts: the holy place, the holy of holies, and the courtyard.Exodus 28: This chapter describes the clothing that the priests were to wear when they ministered in the tabernacle. The high priest was to wear a special breastplate that had twelve gemstones on it, each representing one of the tribes of Israel.From an atheist perspective, these chapters are simply a record of the beliefs and practices of the ancient Israelites. There is no evidence to suggest that the tabernacle or the priestly clothing actually existed, and there is no reason to believe that they were anything more than symbolic objects.
As an atheist we might also point out that the instructions for building the tabernacle and making the priestly clothing are very specific, which suggests that they were not the product of divine inspiration. Rather, they seem to be the result of human ingenuity and creativity.
Ultimately, as an atheist we would argue that there is no reason to believe that the events described in Exodus chapters 27 and 28 actually happened. They are simply stories that were passed down from generation to generation, and they should be interpreted as such.
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Husband and Wife cover Exodus chapter 25: Israel to Bring an Offering / The Arc of the Testimony / The Table for the Showbread / The Golden Candlestick; and chapter 26: The Tabernacle. Basically it's really bad Ikea instructions for building a giant fancy-pants jewelry box made all of gold which isn't gawdy IN ANY WAY WHATSOEVER. Also a sewing project if you can get to a Joann's in ancient times.
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Exodus 25: God gives Moses detailed instructions on how to build a tabernacle, a portable sanctuary that the Israelites would use to worship him. The tabernacle was to be made of the finest materials, including gold, silver, and precious stones. It was to have three main parts: the outer court, the inner sanctuary, and the holy of holies.Exodus 26: The instructions for building the tabernacle continue. The outer court was to be enclosed by a curtain made of linen. The inner sanctuary was to be separated from the outer court by a veil made of blue, purple, and scarlet yarn. The holy of holies was to be the innermost part of the tabernacle. It was to be covered by a curtain made of gold.From an atheist perspective, these chapters are simply a record of the Israelites' beliefs about how they should worship God. There is no evidence to suggest that God actually gave these instructions to Moses. The descriptions of the tabernacle are also highly unrealistic. The materials and craftsmanship described would have been very expensive and time-consuming to obtain. It is unlikely that the Israelites would have been able to build such a complex structure in the desert.
The chapters also raise some ethical questions. For example, why would God require the Israelites to use such expensive materials to build a tabernacle? Why would he require them to make such a complex and elaborate structure? It seems that God is more interested in the Israelites' obedience than he is in their worship.
Overall, Exodus chapters 25 and 26 are a fascinating glimpse into the Israelites' beliefs about worship. However, from an atheist perspective, they are simply a record of those beliefs, not a divine revelation.
In addition to the above, here are some other things to consider from an atheist perspective:
The instructions for building the tabernacle are very specific. This suggests that they were written down after the fact, rather than being revealed to Moses by God.The tabernacle is described as being a copy of a heavenly sanctuary. This is a common theme in religious texts, but there is no evidence to support it.The tabernacle is said to have been a place where God would meet with the Israelites. However, there is no evidence that this actually happened.Ultimately, the meaning of Exodus chapters 25 and 26 is up to the individual reader to decide. However, from an atheist perspective, they are simply a record of the Israelites' beliefs about worship.
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Husband and Wife cover Exodus chapter 23: Laws of Human Relations (cont.) / The Three Appointed Feasts / The Lord's Angel Sent to Lead Israel; and chapter 24: Moses and the Elders on Mount Sinai. People get splattered with blood and rest their asses. Changes of season turn into week-long parties. People are urged to invade other lands. *sigh*
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Exodus 23
This chapter contains a list of laws that the Israelites are commanded to follow. These laws cover a wide range of topics, including religious practices, social interactions, and criminal justice. Some of the key laws in this chapter include:
The Israelites are to worship only one God.They are not to make idols or worship other gods.They are to keep the Sabbath day holy.They are to honor their parents.They are not to murder, commit adultery, steal, or bear false witness.They are to treat their neighbors fairly.Exodus 24
This chapter describes the Israelites' covenant with God. The covenant is sealed by Moses sacrificing animals and sprinkling the blood on the people. God then gives Moses the Ten Commandments, which are a summary of the laws in Exodus 23.
From an atheist perspective, these chapters can be seen as a collection of ancient religious texts that reflect the values and beliefs of the people who wrote them. The laws in these chapters may have been useful for maintaining order and harmony in the ancient Israelite community, but they are not necessarily binding on people today.
Here are some additional thoughts on these chapters from an atheist perspective:
The laws in Exodus 23 are often vague and open to interpretation. This can lead to conflict and disagreement, as people interpret the laws differently.The laws in Exodus 23 are often discriminatory, favoring certain groups of people over others. For example, the law against worshiping other gods is discriminatory against polytheistic religions.The laws in Exodus 23 are often outdated and no longer relevant to our modern world. For example, the law against working on the Sabbath day is no longer necessary in a world where most people work on weekends.Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Husband and Wife cover Exodus chapter 21: The Treatment of Servants / Laws Concerning Acts of Violence / Laws Concerning Responsibility of Owners; and Exodus chapter 22: Laws Concerning Restitution / Laws of Human Relations. Not gonna lie, this section was particularly iresome. Seriously, these are rules supposedly dictated by God on how to treat slaves, virgins, thieves, widows, orphans, etc. The Bible is just gross. Final thoughts: Ex 22:31 "Throw it to the dogs."
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Exodus 21: This chapter contains a number of laws and regulations governing slavery, marriage, and other aspects of life in ancient Israel. From an atheist perspective, these laws are seen as reflecting the prevailing attitudes and values of the time, and are not necessarily divinely inspired. For example, the chapter allows for the beating of slaves, as long as they do not die within a day or two. It also prescribes death for a number of offenses, including adultery, witchcraft, and striking one's parents.Exodus 22: This chapter deals with property damage, theft, and other crimes. It also contains a number of laws governing the treatment of foreigners and animals. From an atheist perspective, these laws are seen as reflecting the need to maintain order and protect the rights of individuals and property. However, some of the laws, such as those that allow for the death penalty for theft, are seen as being cruel and unjust.Overall, Exodus chapters 21 and 22 provide a glimpse into the legal and social system of ancient Israel. From an atheist perspective, these chapters are seen as reflecting the values and priorities of the time, rather than being divinely inspired.
Here are some additional thoughts on these chapters from an atheist perspective:
The laws governing slavery are particularly troubling, as they allow for the ownership of human beings as property. This is in stark contrast to the values of modern society, which views slavery as a form of oppression and exploitation.The laws governing marriage are also patriarchal and discriminatory, as they give men more power than women. For example, the chapter allows a man to divorce his wife for any reason, while a woman can only divorce her husband if he has been unfaithful.The laws governing crimes are also harsh, as they often prescribe the death penalty for even minor offenses. This reflects the belief that punishment should be severe in order to deter crime.Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Exodus Chapters 19 - 20 Bible Study for Atheists
Husband and Wife cover Exodus chapter 19: Israel at Mt. Sinai; and chapter 20: The Ten Commandments / The People's Fear. Moses climbs up and down a mountain like 500 times. God gives some basic rules that should have come with caveats. And these folks need undies!
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Exodus 19: The Israelites arrive at Mount Sinai, where God speaks to them from a cloud. God tells them that they are his chosen people and that he will make them a great nation. He also gives them a set of laws, known as the Ten Commandments, which they must obey.Exodus 20: The Ten Commandments are repeated in more detail. They include prohibitions against worshiping other gods, making idols, taking the Lord's name in vain, working on the Sabbath, honoring one's parents, killing, committing adultery, stealing, bearing false witness, and coveting.From an atheist perspective, these chapters are simply a record of ancient religious beliefs. There is no evidence to suggest that God actually spoke to the Israelites or gave them the Ten Commandments. The stories in these chapters are likely based on oral traditions that were passed down over many generations.
The Ten Commandments are a set of moral principles that have been influential in many cultures. However, there is no reason to believe that they are divinely inspired. They are simply the product of human thought and experience.
In conclusion, Exodus chapters 19 and 20 are a fascinating glimpse into the religious beliefs of ancient Israel. However, there is no reason to believe that they are anything more than that.
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Husband and Wife cover Exodus chapter 17:
Water from the Rock / War with Amalek; and chapter 18: Jethro Visits Moses / The Appointment of Judges. Dwayne Johnson provides drinks for people whining about dying of thirst. The whiners trespass and whoop . Jethro Tull doesn't sing but he does teach Moses to delegate. And something about socks.
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Husband and Wife cover Exodus chapter 15: The Song of Moses / The Bitter Water at Marah: and chapter
16: God Gives Manna. We sing very, very badly but it's not entirely our fault because the lyrics aren't great and the song lacks a chorus. We learn a recipe for magical food that doesn't exist except maybe in an underground government warehouse, the opening of which will probably melt off your face.
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Husband and Wife cover Exodus chapter 13:
The Consecration of the Firstborn / The Pillar of Cloud and the Pillar of Fire;
and chapter 14:Crossing the Red Sea.
God keeps making Pharoah have a hard... heart. Then he drowns him. There's this pillar walking around, and magic clouds, and mouseketeers. It's a mess.
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Husband and Wife cover Exodus chapter 11:
The Death of the Firstborn Foretold;
and chapter 12:The Passover / The Death of the Firstborn / The Israelites Leave Egypt.
So many arbitrary rules! Hardcore mass murder ensues on a genocidal scale, along with a d!ck measuring contest. Also, our cat climbs the Christmas tree and pulls down our curtains, so THAT happened.
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Husband and Wife cover Exodus chapter 9:
The Plague on the Cattle / The Plague of Boils / The Plague of Hail;
and chapter 10:The Plague of Locusts / The Plague of Darkness.
Moses keeps turning off the plagues before his peeps are free. Pharoah never learns. Paul Bunyon enters the chat.
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Husband and Wife cover Exodus chapter 7:
The Lord's Charge to Moses and Aaron (cont.) / Aaron's Rod / The Plague of Blood;
and chapter 8:The Plague of Frogs / The Plague of lice / The Plague of Flies.
So much plague! Pharaoh's magicians mostly keep up, suggesting existence of other gods. But let's talk about that hard staff tho!
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Husband and Wife cover Exodus chapter 4:
The Call of Moses (cont.) / Moses Returns to Egypt; chapter 5: Moses and Aaron Before Pharaoh; and chapter 6: The Lord's Charge to Moses and Aaron.
God gives Moses some magic tricks he keeps referring to as miracles (they aren't). Moses keeps trying to convince God he isn't the right man for the job (he's not). The people hate Moses (as well they should). Pharaoh is an . God is a d!ck.
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