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    0:47 The Jabbari Lincoln Files, Yaya’s audio spy thriller

    5:40 Is Jabbari Lincoln a fictional surrogate for Yaya?

    10:05 How Yaya joined the CIA

    16:18 What does a CIA analyst do, anyway?

    20:42 The lessons of the WMDs debacle

    23:08 A Muslim convert at the Agency

    28:40 How the 2005 London Underground bombings got Yaya interested in counterterrorism

    30:28 Terrorist recruitment and the search for self

    35:57 Why Yaya doesn’t use the term “Islamophobia”

    38:52 Yaya: Not even freedom fighters have license to kill with impunity

    45:06 What would Malcolm X think about African American support of Palestinians?

    52:22 Working for the CIA in the post-COINTELPRO era

    Recorded November 9, 2024

    Links and Readings

    1776 Unites

    The Jabarri Lincoln Files

    Sam Greenlee’s novel, The Spook Who Sat by the Door

    Ivan Dixon’s 1973 film adaptation of The Spook Who Say by the Door

    Yaya’s essay for the Journal of Free Black Thought, “Hamas Are Not Muslim Freedom Fighters”

    December 2, 1963 NYT article on Malcolm X’s “Chickens coming home to roost” comment

    Yaya’s other podcast, Designated



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    In this post-show recording with Mark and Nikita, I talk about my conversation with Yaya Fanusie, the sub rosa activities of the CIA, the US's authorization of ATACMS strikes in Russian territory, and more.

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    0:43 John reconciles himself to Trump’s win

    4:06 Glenn: Wake up! It’s time to take Trump seriously!

    12:16 Why Glenn feels a sense of excitement about the present moment

    14:54 Ground News Ad

    16:40 Is Glenn’s attitude all about contrarianism?

    21:00 Does John hope that Trump’s administration fails?

    26:08 ACTA ad

    28:22 John’s trip to Dublin with Richard Dawkins

    36:44 John’s questions for Dawkins

    41:51 What Dawkins might think about race, culture, and IQ

    Recorded November 18, 2024

    Links and Readings

    John’s NYT piece, “What if I’m the ‘Friend’ Donald Trump Referred To?”

    John’s Atlantic piece, “Trump’s Unmonitored Speech”

    Max Boot’s book, Reagan: His Life and Legend

    Richard Dawkins’s latest book, The Genetic Book of the Dead: A Darwinian Reverie

    Dawkins’s book, The Selfish Gene

    Dawkins’s book, The Extended Phenotype: The Long Reach of the Gene

    Dawkins’s book, The God Delusion

    Dawkins’s book, The Ancestors’ Tale: A Pilgrimage to the Dawn of Life



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    In this post-show recording with Mark and Nikita, I talk about my conversation with John McWhorter, my elation over Trump's victory, and why I wasn't forthcoming about my preference for him over Harris.

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    1:21 Have Glenn’s intellectual shifts been misread?

    5:45 Danny: Francis Fukuyama was right

    10:30 Capitalism won. Is that a good thing?

    14:18 The climate under capitalism

    20:24 Danny: “People said 'f**k you' to the Democratic Party”

    23:51 Why the “Trump is a fascist” argument makes no sense

    27:53 Whither the working class coalition?

    33:10 How the US foreign policy establishment won the argument and lost Ukraine

    36:28 Danny: There is no way the US can maintain influence in East Asia

    38:26 Does Jewish survival require a Jewish state?

    43:50 The limits of social science

    49:36 The media’s obsession with polling

    53:55 Is the US reaping what it’s sown on immigration?52:34 Is the US reaping what it’s sown on immigration?

    Recorded November 9, 2024

    Links and Readings

    Dann’s podcast, American Prestige

    Danny’s conversations with Glenn about his intellectual history, parts 1, 2, 3, and 4

    Francis Fukuyama’s Financial Times piece, “What Trump Unleashed Means for America”

    Danny’s Nation essay, “The Liberal Discontents of Francis Fukuyama”

    Adam Tooze’s podcast, Ones & Tooze

    Danny’s Harper’s essay, “The Life and Death of Hollywood”

    Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels’s manifesto, The Communist Manifesto

    Danny’s Harper’s essay, “Empire Burlesque”

    Danny’s Boston Review piece, “Mass Destruction”

    Glenn’s recent conversation with Rajiv Sethi

    JD Vance’s book, Hillbilly Elegy: A Memoir of a Family and Culture in Crisis

    John Murray Cuddihy’s book, The Ordeal of Civilization: Freud, Marx, LĂ©vi-Strauss, and the Jewish Struggle with Modernity

    Yuri Slezkine’s book, The Jewish Century



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    In this post-show conversation with my creative director Nikita Petrov, I review this week's episode with historian Daniel Bessner. We also talk about Trump's policy proposals, capitalism, Russia and Ukraine, NATO, and why I sometimes pull back from speaking my mind.

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    In this month's Substack subscriber-only Q&A session, we talk about Donald Trump's "Nazi rally" at Madison Square Garden, Martha Raddatz's comments about Venezuelan gangs in Colorado, Glenn's retirement, John's comments about Trump and Vance, my comments about Israel and Palestine, and, of course, Trump's victory.

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    This is the Post-Show episode following this week's conversation with John McWhorter. In it, Glenn sits down with his editor Mark Sussman and his creative director Nikita Petrov to talk about the election, why he understands where Trump's supporters are coming from, the meaning of voting, and the possibility that Trump might release sealed documents relating to the JFK assassination.

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    [Note: In the episode, John mistakenly referred to the author of a biography of Ronald Reagan as George Will. He meant to reference Max Boot’s Reagan: His Life and Legacy.]

    1:39 Pre-election jitters

    3:23 Will Democrats contest the election if it goes Trump’s way?

    4:44 A crisis for democracy, maybe, but not the end of democracy

    10:02 John’s case against Trump’s proposed second administration

    15:36 Ground News ad

    17:28 The Obamas’ attempted intervention and post-presidential performance

    26:58 The mind of the informed Trump voter

    34:20 A revisionist history of the Trump presidency (or presidencies)

    41:15 Is Trump losing it or just tired of campaigning?

    44:25 The Washington Post and the LA Times decline to endorse

    47:48 Glenn and John’s election night plans

    50:48 The nightmare scenario

    Recorded November 3, 2024

    Links and Readings

    Shelby Steele’s book, A Bound Man: Why We Are Excited about Obama and Why He Can’t Win

    Jimmy Carter’s book, Palestine: Peace Not Apartheid

    John’s NYT column, “Donald Trump Is Bored”

    Max Boot’s book, Reagan: His Life and Legacy

    Everybody Loves Raymond: The Complete Series DVD box set

    Douglas Murray’s Free Press piece, “Things Worth Remembering: Whoever Loses, They Should Lose Like Nixon”



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    0:00 Rajiv’s report from the FIRE conference

    3:11 Roland Fryer’s keynote address

    13:26 Ta-Nehisi Coates’s humanist universalism

    17:25 “Tolstoy is the Tolstoy of the Zulus”

    18:50 Rajiv’s reading of Coates’s stand on “apartheid”

    31:55 The gap between election forecasting models and prediction markets

    36:52 The limits of models and markets

    39:59 Rajiv: The markets show us a balance between narratives about the election

    44:17 Is one crypto trader manipulating the prediction markets in favor of Trump?

    53:12 Rajiv: Prediction markets may have sent early signals about January 6

    55:19 Rajiv’s family history with Kamala Harris

    57:45 The new prominence of Indian Americans in politics

    1:03:07 The axiom of antiessentialism

    Recorded October 27, 2024

    Links and Readings

    Rajiv’s Substack, Imperfect Information

    Foundation for Individual Rights and Expression

    Lara Bazelon’s 2022 Atlantic essay, “The ACLU Has Lost Its Way”

    Glenn’s 2021 conversation with Bazelon

    Glenn’s 2023 conversation with Erec Smith

    Eugene Volokh on the Hamline University-Prophet Muhammad painting controversy

    Ta-Nehisi Coates’s book, The Message

    Coates’s 2010 Atlantic essay, “The Ghost of Bobby Lee”

    Ralph Wiley’s book, Dark Witness: When Black People Should Be Sacrificed (Again)

    Last week’s TGS debate about The Messsage

    Orlando Patterson’s book, Slavery and Social Death: A Comparative Study

    Glenn’s book, The Anatomy of Racial Inequality

    Glenn’s memoir, Late Admissions: Confessions of a Black Conservative

    Polymarket

    Recorded October 27, 2024

    Links and Readings

    Rajiv’s Substack, Imperfect Information

    Foundation for Individual Rights and Expression

    Lara Bazelon’s 2022 Atlantic essay, “The ACLU Has Lost Its Way”

    Glenn’s 2021 conversation with Bazelon

    Glenn’s 2023 conversation with Erec Smith

    Eugene Volokh on the Hamline University-Prophet Muhammad painting controversy

    Ta-Nehisi Coates’s book, The Message

    Coates’s 2010 Atlantic essay, “The Ghost of Bobby Lee”

    Ralph Wiley’s book, Dark Witness: When Black People Should Be Sacrificed (Again)

    Last week’s TGS debate about The Messsage

    Orlando Patterson’s book, Slavery and Social Death: A Comparative Study

    Glenn’s book, The Anatomy of Racial Inequality

    Glenn’s memoir, Late Admissions: Confessions of a Black Conservative

    Polymarket



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    1:22 The Coates debate continues

    3:18 John: Coates is a beautiful writer, but 


    5:44 John: 
 The Message is suffused with incuriosity and simplistic thinking

    13:45 Glenn: Coates is talking about humanism and power, not race

    18:11 Ground News ad

    20:25 Is it “all about whitey”?

    22:11 Glenn: Ta-Nehisi Coates wrote this book. What am I doing?

    27:40 What kind of historical imagination is at work in The Message?

    34:11 Moral clarity or abdication of responsibility?

    36:30 Pro-Palestinian writers John considers acceptable

    41:54 The next entries in Glenn and John’s book club

    42:04 Coates’s now notorious interview on CBS Mornings

    48:45 What is the black intellectual’s role today?

    52:16 The counterexample of South Africa

    Recorded October 19, 2024

    Links and Readings

    Ta-Nehisi Coates’s book, The Message

    Glenn and John’s previous conversation

    John’s NYT column, “Ta-Nehisi Coates and the Myth of Black Fragility”

    Michael Chabon’s novel, The Yiddish Policemen’s Union

    Jeffrey Sachs on YouTube

    Judge Andrew Napolitano on YouTube

    Trevor Noah’s conversation with Coates

    Ezra Klein’s conversation with Coates

    Peter Beinart’s conversation with Coates

    David Greenberg’s new book, John Lewis: A Life

    Karen and Barbara Fields’s book, Racecraft: The Soul of Inequality in American Life

    Glenn’s memoir, Late Admissions: Confessions of a Black Conservative

    James Baldwin’s essay, “Letter from a Region in My Mind”



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    1:41 Penn’s sanctions against Amy

    7:47 What’s at stake in the charges against Amy?

    14:03 The trouble with “hate speech”

    17:48 Should we abolish the nation-state?

    21:38 The debates that can’t happen in the university

    26:44 Ethnonationalism and group differences

    33:11 Amy’s defense of maintaining an “Anglo-Protestant” American majority

    42:32 Amy’s concerns about Asian migration

    47:52 Are immigrants bringing lax attitudes toward property rights with them?

    52:52 Glenn: Immigrants impart dynamism to a culture that’s always been in flux

    1:01:13 Glenn and Amy talk about porn

    1:07:51 The absence of virtue in political discourse

    1:13:05 Amy’s next steps

    Recorded October 12, 2024

    Links and Readings

    Amy’s Philadelphia Inquirer op-ed, “Paying the Price for the Breakdown of the Country’s Bourgeois Culture”

    Glenn and Amy’s 2017 conversation, “The Downside to Social Uplift”

    Foundation for Individual Rights and Expression

    Ta-Nehisi Coates’s new book, The Message

    William Vogelei’s Claremont Review of Books review of Robert Kagan’s Rebellion: How Antiliberalism Is Tearing America Apart—Again

    Coleman Hughes’s book, The End of Race Politics: Arguments for a Colorblind America

    Daron Acemoglu and James A. Robinson’s book, Why Nations Fail: The Origins of Power, Prosperity, and Poverty

    Daniel Di Martino’s recent appearance on The Glenn Show

    Irving Kristol’s 1971 essay, “Pornography, Obscenity, and the Case for Censorship”

    Glenn’s essay, “The Case for Black Patriotism”



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  • 1:12 The Vance-Walz debate

    4:28 Glenn: Ta-Nehisi Coates’s new book is brilliant

    13:16 John and Coates’s ancient beef

    15:31 Coates’s “blistering” critique of Zionism

    18:22 Ground News ad

    20:39 Do you have to solve the problem of “apartheid” in order to criticize it?

    33:10 Glenn’s reappraisal of Coates (and John’s bemusement)

    34:53 ACTA ad 36:39 Will the race card play for Eric Adams?

    42:31 What has Eric Adams accomplished?

    43:57 Why John defends Amy Wax

    49:17 Glenn: Amy Wax gets to have her opinion

    Recorded October 5, 2024

    Links and Readings

    The Vance-Walz VP debate

    Ta-Nehisi Coates’s book, The Message

    Coleman Hughes’s Free Press review of The Message

    Coates’s book, Between the World and Me

    Coates’s Atlantic essay, “The Case for Reparations”

    Glenn and John’s in-person TGS episode

    Andrew Yang’s Newsweek piece, “I Ran against Eric Adams. I Saw This Coming.”

    John’s NYT piece, “She Is Outrageous, Demeaning, Dangerous. She Shouldn’t Be Punished.”

    Amy Wax’s December 2021 TGS appearance

    Wax’s August 2022 TGS appearance

    Wax’s March 2024 TGS appearance

    Richard Sander’s Stanford Law Review article, “A Systematic Analysis of Affirmative Action in American Law Schools”



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    1:15 Why Daniel immigrated to the US

    5:14 What went wrong in Venezuela?

    8:45 Daniel: Both the Biden administration and global trends are to blame for the border crisis

    11:19 Trump promises to deport record numbers of illegal immigrants. But can he?

    13:00 What’s it take to fix immigration? Money.

    18:39 The flawed strategy of making immigration into Mexico’s problem

    20:48 The bad information and rumors fueling asylum-seekers

    23:18 Should residency visa programs prioritize the richest immigrants?

    32:13 The labor market consequences of immigration

    37:27 Daniel’s large-scale proposals for national immigration policy

    43:00 How many unauthorized immigrants are in US right now?

    45:23 The political realities of immigration reform44:08 The political realities of immigration reform

    Recorded September 23, 2025

    Links and Readings

    Daniel’s writing for City Journal

    Daniel’s report for the Manhattan Institute, “The Lifetime Fiscal Impact of Immigrants”



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    A couple weeks ago, I did my own solo Q&A session. Now John is back, and I decided to put him in the hot seat. Let’s get into it. Yan Shen asks our opinion of the contretemps between Nancy Mace and Michael Eric Dyson. Stan asks if we’ve seen Matt Walsh’s film, Am I Racist?. Eli, noting the rampant grade inflation at many institutions, asks if we have a way of fixing the problem and wants to know if our own grading standards have changed over the years (here’s the Yascha Mounk post she references). RAO wants to know what we think of alternative education, like home schooling, micro-schools, charter schools, and so on. Jerry Zuriff wants to know why John likes hip-hop. Given that, on average, American girls perform better than American boys in high school, Michael asks if colleges should give preferences to males over females. Or would that run afoul of SFFA v. Harvard? And finally, DG wants to know why John never got interested in sports.

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    1:28 John corrects some Wikipedia-driven misconceptions about his work

    4:12 ChatGPT pays homage to Glenn and John

    6:41 John: JD Vance actually is what I’m merely accused of being

    17:59 Ground News ad 20:08 Are there any true sellouts among black conservatives?

    28:32 And what is a sellout, anyway?

    36:01 What goes on between Clarence and Ginni Thomas?

    40:19 An addition to the book club reading list

    42:08 ACTA ad

    43:54 Remembering Linda Datcher Loury

    49:00 Should having children be the norm?

    56:34 Glenn sightings in the wild

    57:32 Working without a net

    Recorded September 23, 2024

    Links and Readings

    Glenn’s Wikipedia page

    John’s Wikipedia page

    John’s NYT column, “Why JD Vance Dropped into My Inbox”

    JD Vance’s book, Hillbilly Elegy: A Memoir of a Family and Culture in Crisis

    John’s book, Losing the Race: Self-Sabotage in Black America

    Randall Kennedy’s book, Sellout: The Politics of Racial Betrayal

    David Greenberg’s forthcoming book, John Lewis: A Life

    David Lodge’s novel, Changing Places: A Tale of Two Campuses

    Barbara and Karen Fields’s book, Racecraft: The Soul of Inequality in American Life

    Percival Everett’s novel, James

    RF Kuang’s novel, Babel, or the Necessity of Violence

    Clint Smith’s Atlantic piece, “George Floyd Was Also a Father”



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    0:14 Larry Kotlikoff for President?

    5:40 Larry’s plan to save social security

    9:30 Reincentivizing work, saving, and staying in the US

    14:55 Rewriting the story about income and labor

    21:08 Why a 10% tariff could amount to a new national sales tax or worse

    23:33 Glenn: Trade with other nations is not a zero-sum game

    29:15 Taxing billionaires on consumption rather than income

    34:43 The price of shame

    38:40 Maintaining competitive conditions with universal health insurance

    44:49 What’s causing inflation?

    52:26 How big of a problem is the national debt?

    Recorded September 4, 2024

    Links and Readings

    Larry’s Substack

    Larry’s homepage

    Larry’s book, with Philip Moeller and Paul Solman, Getting What’s Yours: The Secrets to Maxing Out Your Social Security

    Larry’s book, with Scott Burns, The Coming Generational Storm: What You Need to Know about America’s Economic Future

    Larry’s book, Jimmy Stewart Is Dead: Ending the World's Ongoing Financial Plague with Limited Purpose Banking

    Larry’s financial planning program, MaxiFi

    Larry’s book, You’re Hired: A Trump Playbook for Fixing America’s Economy

    Larry’s book, The Healthcare Fix: Universal Insurance for All Americans



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    Martyn Clark asks how economists factor idiosyncratic, unpredictable human behavior into their abstract modeling. Young Törless asks Glenn to weigh in on the presidential candidates’ approaches to—or avoidance of—the problem of the national debt. BB asks Glenn which economic theories or concepts haven’t stood the test of time. Stan asks what three policies would make the biggest difference in improving the lives of black people. Eli asks if technological progress and our ever-increasing knowledge about the world may end up being a bad thing for humanity. Luke Englund asks if the conservative movement has compromised too much for the sake of Donald Trump. And finally, therealnewyorker asks what issues I would feel compelled to talk about if racial politics disappeared tomorrow.

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    0:59 Glenn debuts his new studio

    2:34 Life after academia

    13:02 The challenge of having a lot of time on your hands

    18:10 John’s new musical endeavors

    20:20 Ground News ad

    22:38 John’s forthcoming book, Pronoun Trouble: The Story of Us in Seven Little Words

    25:07 Glenn and John form an impromptu book club

    29:43 The first class of post-Students for Fair Admissions college freshmen

    36:22 Are black students being shut out of the upper echelons of American society?

    40:33 The Supreme Court’s “indirect beneficial endowment” to HBCUs

    46:42 Glenn: “The wheel is turning” on race politics in America

    52:18 ACTA ad

    54:26 Plagiarism in Robin DiAngelo’s dissertation

    57:02 John: I don’t recognize the world that Danzy Senna and Ketanji Brown Jackson describe, even though I lived in it

    1:04:07 Did Thomas Chatterton Williams really say what he said to Danzy Senna?

    Recorded September 8, 2024

    Links and Readings

    The Rest Is History on Apple Podcasts

    Preorder John’s forthcoming book, Pronoun Trouble: The Story of Us in Seven Little Words

    David Kaiser’s book, States of the Union: A History of the United States through Presidential Addresses, 1789-2023

    David Kaiser discusses his book States of the Union on TGS

    Sari Nusseibeh’s memoir, Once Upon a Country: A Palestinian Life

    David Greenberg’s forthcoming book, John Lewis: A Life

    Danzy Senna’s novel, Colored Television

    Percival Everett’s novel, James

    Ketanji Brown Jackson’s memoir, Lovely One

    John’s book, Losing the Race: Self-Sabotage in Black America

    Michelle Obama’s DNC speech

    Thomas Chatterton Williams’s book, Self-Portrait in Black and White: Unlearning Race



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    0:59 How Harry met Glenn

    3:44 Black girls and women are doing relatively well. Why aren’t black boys and men?

    11:21 Harry: Some of the barriers are structural, some are cultural

    18:20 The crude toolkit for fixing child support

    25:15 Black teachers, tutoring, and “high-quality career and tech ed”

    31:44 In schools, one size doesn’t fit all

    35:22 Three ways to improve employment prospects

    39:10 Glenn asks “the Chicago question”

    42:09 Discrimination against ex-convicts

    50:38 Immigration’s impact on black employment

    53:29 Are too many people in prison?

    56:07 Harry: Progressives are oblivious to the backlash they generate

    Recorded August 20, 2024

    Links and Readings

    Harry and Glenn’s conversation about “racism, narratives, and backlash” with the Federal Reserve Bank of Boston

    Harry and Richard J. Freeman’s 1986 edited collection, The Black Youth Employment Crisis

    Melissa Kearney’s book, The Two-Parent Privilege: How Americans Stopped Getting Married and Started Falling Behind

    Isabel V. Sawhill’s book, Generation Unbound: Drifting into Sex and Parenthood without Marriage

    Douglas Harris’s book, Charter School City: What the End of Traditional Public Schools in New Orleans Means for American Education

    Glenn’s paper with Young-Chul Kim, “Rebranding Ex-Convicts”

    William Julius Wilson’s book, The Declining Significance of Race: Blacks and Changing American Institutions



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