Episodes

  • On November 13, ISD Director Ambassador (ret.) Barbara Bodine awarded New York Times correspondent Edward Wong with the Edward Weintal Prize for diplomatic reporting.

    Ed's lecture, "Empires in Extremis," covers his family's story as it intertwines with the rise of the CCP and Xi Jinping, leading into his own career as a diplomatic correspondent and NYT Beijing Bureau Chief for nine years. He concludes by comparing and contrasting the Chinese and U.S. models of empire, and the dangers they face as the two countries become more adversarial. Q&A with Ambassador Bodine covers US-China relations, the incoming Trump administration, and the journalistic profession.

    Find his new book, "At the Edge of Empire A Family's Reckoning with China," here: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/602734/at-the-edge-of-empire-by-edward-wong/

    The opinions expressed in this conversation are strictly those of the participants and do not represent the views of Georgetown University or any government entity.

    Produced by Freddie Mallinson and Theo Malhotra.

    Recorded on November 13, 2024. Diplomatic Immunity, a podcast from the Institute for the Study of Diplomacy at Georgetown University, brings you frank and candid conversations with experts on the issues facing diplomats and national security decision-makers around the world.

    Funding support from the Carnegie Corporation of New York.

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  • This week, Kelly talks with Dr. Lindsay Chervinsky about the history of Presidential transitions, and how the Biden-Trump transition is shaping up.

    Dr. Lindsay Chervinsky is a presidential historian and Executive Director of the George Washington Presidential Library. Her research focuses on the development of political institutions and political culture in the Early Republic. Her first book, The Cabinet: George Washington and the Creation of an American Institution, was published in April 2020. Her latest book, Making the Presidency: John Adams and the Precedents that Forged the Republic, was published in September of this year. Her work has also appeared in the Wall Street Journal, The Daily Beast, Time Magazine, and the Washington Post.

    https://www.amazon.com/Making-Presidency-Precedents-Forged-Republic/dp/0197653847

    The opinions expressed in this conversation are strictly those of the participants and do not represent the views of Georgetown University or any government entity.

    Produced by Freddie Mallinson and Theo Malhotra.

    Recorded on November 12, 2024. Diplomatic Immunity, a podcast from the Institute for the Study of Diplomacy at Georgetown University, brings you frank and candid conversations with experts on the issues facing diplomats and national security decision-makers around the world.

    Funding support from the Carnegie Corporation of New York.

    For more, visit our website, and follow us on Linkedin, Twitter @GUDiplomacy, and Instagram @isd.georgetown

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  • This week, Kelly talks with Dr. Tristen Naylor, Founder and Managing Director of the geopolitical risk consultancy Diplomatic Solutions, about the outlooks for relationships with leaders in Europe, China, Iran, and other nations, as well as how America’s relationship with multilateral institutions like the United Nations might be impacted by either candidate’s victory.

    Tristen Naylor is the Founder and Managing Director of Diplomatic Solutions, a geopolitical risk consultancy based in London. He was previously also an Assistant Professor and Lecturer in History and Politics at Cambridge University. His first book, "Social Closure and International Society: Status Groups from the Family of Civilised Nations to the G20," examines how actors compete for a seat at the table in the management of international society:

    https://www.amazon.com/Social-Closure-International-Society-Governance-ebook/dp/B07KY42HBK

    The opinions expressed in this conversation are strictly those of the participants and do not represent the views of Georgetown University or any government entity.

    Produced by Freddie Mallinson and Jarrett Dang.

    Recorded on October 15, 2024. Diplomatic Immunity, a podcast from the Institute for the Study of Diplomacy at Georgetown University, brings you frank and candid conversations with experts on the issues facing diplomats and national security decision-makers around the world.

    Funding support from the Carnegie Corporation of New York.

    For more, visit our website, and follow us on Linkedin, Twitter @GUDiplomacy, and Instagram @isd.georgetown

  • Interview with Sara Moller - 13:00

    This week, Kelly and Freddie talk through the UK's deal with Mauritius on the Chagos Islands, the Tunisian presidential election, and Kenya's police mission in Haiti. Kelly then talks with Professor Sara Moller about NATO's new Secretary General Mark Rutte.

    The opinions expressed in this conversation are strictly those of the participants and do not represent the views of Georgetown University or any government entity.

    Produced by Jarrett Dang and Freddie Mallinson.

    Recorded on October 14, 2024. Diplomatic Immunity, a podcast from the Institute for the Study of Diplomacy at Georgetown University, brings you frank and candid conversations with experts on the issues facing diplomats and national security decision-makers around the world.

    Funding support from the Carnegie Corporation of New York.

    For more, visit our website, and follow us on Linkedin, Twitter @GUDiplomacy, and Instagram @isd.georgetown

  • For our seventh season of Diplomatic Immunity, we’ll be taking a look at the role of foreign policy in the upcoming 2024 presidential election. We’ll be taking you through the key things to know about where the candidates stand on international issues, how a win for either will affect US foreign policy, and how the rest of the world is watching with bated breath. Today, Kelly talks with Emma Ashford about the relative foreign policy platforms of Donald Trump and Kamala Harris.

    Emma Ashford is a senior fellow with the Reimagining US Grand Strategy Program at the Stimson Center, where she works on a variety of issues related to the future of US foreign policy, international security, and the politics of global energy markets. Her first book, Oil, the State, and War: The Foreign Policies of Petrostates, was published by Georgetown University Press in 2022, and explored the international security ramifications of oil production and export in states such as Russia, Saudi Arabia, Iran, and Venezuela. Dr. Ashford also writes a bi-weekly column, “It’s Debatable,” for Foreign Policy Magazine.

    Find her recent report exploring the future of US-European defense relations here: https://www.stimson.org/2024/american-roulette-scenarios-for-us-retrenchment-and-the-future-of-european-defense/

    Find her regular column in Foreign Policy Magazine here: https://foreignpolicy.com/category/its-debatable/

    The opinions expressed in this conversation are strictly those of the participants and do not represent the views of Georgetown University or any government entity.

    Produced by Freddie Mallinson and Jarrett Dang.

    Recorded on October 7, 2024. Diplomatic Immunity, a podcast from the Institute for the Study of Diplomacy at Georgetown University, brings you frank and candid conversations with experts on the issues facing diplomats and national security decision-makers around the world.

    Funding support from the Carnegie Corporation of New York.

    For more, visit our website, and follow us on Linkedin, Twitter @GUDiplomacy, and Instagram @isd.georgetown

  • 11:40 - Interview with Stéphanie Fillion

    This week, Kelly and Freddie discuss recent updates in Israel and the South China Sea. Kelly then talks with Stephanie Fillion, a UN correspondent, about high-level week at the UN General Assembly.

    Stephanie Fillion is an international reporter who covers the UN from its headquarters in New York City. Her work has been featured in Forbes Magazine, Foreign Policy Magazine, and CNN among others. Her coverage received two UN Correspondent Association awards as well as a Gracie award from the Alliance for Women in Media.

    The opinions expressed in this conversation are strictly those of the participants and do not represent the views of Georgetown University or any government entity.

    Produced by Jarrett Dang and Freddie Mallinson.

    Recorded on September 30, 2024. Diplomatic Immunity, a podcast from the Institute for the Study of Diplomacy at Georgetown University, brings you frank and candid conversations with experts on the issues facing diplomats and national security decision-makers around the world.

    Funding support from the Carnegie Corporation of New York.

    For more, visit our website, and follow us on Linkedin, Twitter @GUDiplomacy, and Instagram @isd.georgetown

  • For our seventh season of Diplomatic Immunity, we’ll be taking a look at the role of foreign policy in the upcoming 2024 presidential election. We’ll be taking you through the key things to know about where the candidates stand on international issues, how a win for either will affect U.S. foreign policy, and how the rest of the world is watching with bated breath. Today, Kelly talks with Elizabeth Saunders about how Americans do and don’t consider foreign policy in their election decision-making.

    Elizabeth is Professor of Political Science at Columbia University, where she specializes in issues of U.S. foreign policy and international security. She is also a non-resident fellow at the Brookings Institution and previously taught at the Georgetown University School of Foreign Service. Her first book, Leaders at War: How Presidents Shape Military Interventions, was published in 2011 and won the 2012 Jervis-Schroeder Best Book Award from the American Political Science Association’s International History and Politics section. Her most recent book, The Insiders’ Game: How Elites Make War and Peace, was published in 2024 by Princeton University Press:

    https://www.amazon.com/Insiders-Game-Princeton-International-Politics/dp/0691215804

    The opinions expressed in this conversation are strictly those of the participants and do not represent the views of Georgetown University or any government entity.

    Produced by Freddie Mallinson and Jarrett Dang.

    Recorded on September 24, 2024. Diplomatic Immunity, a podcast from the Institute for the Study of Diplomacy at Georgetown University, brings you frank and candid conversations with experts on the issues facing diplomats and national security decision-makers around the world.

    Funding support from the Carnegie Corporation of New York.

    For more, visit our website, and follow us on Linkedin, Twitter @GUDiplomacy, and Instagram @isd.georgetown

  • Kelly speaks with Richard Horsey, Myanmar expert and advisor to the International Crisis Group, for a deep dive into the history of Myanmar's ongoing civil war.

    Richard is a political analyst and has been a close observer of Myanmar for over 25 years. He specializes in the politics and political economy of the country, as well as armed conflict and the illicit economy. Since 2009, he has been Myanmar adviser to the International Crisis Group, and also advises a number of other organizations on political and conflict risk issues. He was formerly the Myanmar representative of the International Labour Organization working to end the practice of forced labor imposed by the previous military regime. He was subsequently a senior adviser and spokesperson for the United Nations Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs following Cyclone Nargis. He is the author of more than a hundred reports on the country, as well as numerous articles and opinion pieces. He is a fluent Burmese speaker and holds a PhD in psychology from University College London.

    Read Richard's recent article on Myanmar in Foreign Affairs here: https://www.foreignaffairs.com/burma-myanmar/myanmar-fragmenting-not-falling-apart

    The opinions expressed in this conversation are strictly those of the participants and do not represent the views of Georgetown University or any government entity.

    Produced by Freddie Mallinson and Nicole Butler.

    Recorded on July 9, 2024. Diplomatic Immunity, a podcast from the Institute for the Study of Diplomacy at Georgetown University, brings you frank and candid conversations with experts on the issues facing diplomats and national security decision-makers around the world.

    Funding support from the Carnegie Corporation of New York.

    For more, visit our website, and follow us on Linkedin, Twitter @GUDiplomacy, and Instagram @isd.georgetown

  • 13:10 - Interview with Chris Tuttle

    This week, Kelly and Freddie talk through Secretary of State Blinken's recent visit to China, U.S. troops leaving Niger, and an election in Maldives that saw the country move closer to China. Kelly then talks with Chris Tuttle, senior fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations, about recent Congressional action on Ukraine and TikTok.

    Chris Tuttle is a senior fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations who focuses on the politics and process behind U.S. foreign policy. He previously directed CFR’s Renewing America Initiative and served from 2015 to 2019 as policy director on the majority staff of the U.S. Senate Committee on Foreign Relations under Chairman Bob Corker.

    The opinions expressed in this conversation are strictly those of the participants and do not represent the views of Georgetown University or any government entity.

    Produced by Jarrett Dang and Freddie Mallinson.

    Recorded on April 30, 2024. Diplomatic Immunity, a podcast from the Institute for the Study of Diplomacy at Georgetown University, brings you frank and candid conversations with experts on the issues facing diplomats and national security decision-makers around the world.

    Funding support from the Carnegie Corporation of New York.

    For more, visit our website, and follow us on Linkedin, Twitter @GUDiplomacy, and Instagram @isd.georgetown

  • 10:40 - Interview with Yuki Tatsumi.

    This week, Kelly and Freddie talk through Iran's Strike on Israel, Ecudaro's raid on the Mexican embassy in Quito, and the losses for President Erdogan's party in recent Turkish municipal elections. Kelly then talks with the Stimson Center's Yuki Tatsumi about the recent summit between the US, Japan, and the Philippines held in Washington last week.

    Yuki Tatsumi is a senior fellow and co-director of the East Asia Program at the Stimson Center and the director of Stimson's Japan program. Prior to her current role, Tatsumi worked as a research associate at the Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS) and as the special assistant for political affairs at the Embassy of Japan in Washington.

    Tatsumi’s most recent publications include Balancing Between Nuclear Deterrence and Disarmament: Views from the Next Generation (ed.; Stimson Center, 2018) Lost in Translation? U.S. Defense Innovation and Northeast Asia (Stimson Center, 2017).

    The opinions expressed in this conversation are strictly those of the participants and do not represent the views of Georgetown University or any government entity.

    Produced by Jarrett Dang and Freddie Mallinson.

    Recorded on April 15, 2024. Diplomatic Immunity, a podcast from the Institute for the Study of Diplomacy at Georgetown University, brings you frank and candid conversations with experts on the issues facing diplomats and national security decision-makers around the world.

    Funding support from the Carnegie Corporation of New York.

    For more, visit our website, and follow us on Linkedin, Twitter @GUDiplomacy, and Instagram @isd.georgetown

  • Kelly speaks with Lt. Gen (ret.) Ben Hodges, former Commanding General of U.S. Army Europe, about the effect of the Ukraine War on military tactics and strategy.

    Prior to retiring from the armed forces in 2018, Lieutenant General (ret.) Ben Hodges served as Commanding General of the U.S. Army in Europe. He consults for several companies on Europe, NATO, and the European Union, and he is co-author of the book Future War and the Defence of Europe, published by Oxford University Press. General Hodges was most recently Senior Advisor to Human Rights First, a non-profit, and was also the Pershing Chair in Strategic Studies at the Center for European Policy Analysis (CEPA).

    The opinions expressed in this conversation are strictly those of the participants and do not represent the views of Georgetown University or any government entity.

    Produced by Freddie Mallinson and Jarrett Dang.

    Recorded on April 9, 2024. Diplomatic Immunity, a podcast from the Institute for the Study of Diplomacy at Georgetown University, brings you frank and candid conversations with experts on the issues facing diplomats and national security decision-makers around the world.

    Funding support from the Carnegie Corporation of New York.

    For more, visit our website, and follow us on Linkedin, Twitter @GUDiplomacy, and Instagram @isd.georgetown

  • 10:25 - Interview with Dr. Ken Opalo

    This week, Kelly and Freddie provide updates on the humanitarian situation in Gaza and the evolving crisis in Haiti, and Kelly talks with Georgetown Professor Ken Opalo for a deep dive into Sudan's civil war.

    Dr. Opalo is an associate professor at the Georgetown University Walsh School of Foreign Service, where he focuses his research and teaching on political economy in Africa. He is also the author of the blog An Africanist Perspective, where he writes on African politics, economics, and history.

    https://www.africanistperspective.com/

    The opinions expressed in this conversation are strictly those of the participants and do not represent the views of Georgetown University or any government entity.

    Episode recorded: March 19, 2024.

    Produced by Jarrett Dang and Freddie Mallinson.

    Diplomatic Immunity, a podcast from the Institute for the Study of Diplomacy at Georgetown University, brings you frank and candid conversations with experts on the issues facing diplomats and national security decision-makers around the world.

    Funding support from the Carnegie Corporation of New York.

    For more, visit our website, and follow us on Twitter @GUDiplomacy. Send any feedback to [email protected].

  • Season 6 Episode 6.

    This week, Kelly talks with retired army officer and National Defense University research fellow Dr. Tom Lynch about the impact of Ukraine's war on great power conflict and US-China competition.

    Dr. Thomas Lynch is an adjunct professor of Security Studies at Georgetown University and distinguished research fellow for South Asia and the Near East at National Defense University. Dr. Lynch is also a retired U.S. Army officer who served for 28 years in a variety of command and staff positions including as a Special Assistant to the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and Deputy Director of the Chairman’s Advisory & Initiatives Group, Commander of the U.S. Army War Theater Support Group in Doha Qatar, and Military Special Assistant to the U.S. Ambassador to Afghanistan.

    He is the lead editor for the National Defense University's Strategic Assessment, authored every five years: https://ndupress.ndu.edu/Publications/Books/Strategic-Assessments-2020/

    The opinions expressed in this conversation are strictly those of the participants and do not represent the views of Georgetown University or any government entity.

    Produced by Freddie Mallinson and Jarrett Dang.

    Recorded on February 28, 2024. Diplomatic Immunity, a podcast from the Institute for the Study of Diplomacy at Georgetown University, brings you frank and candid conversations with experts on the issues facing diplomats and national security decision-makers around the world.

    Funding support from the Carnegie Corporation of New York.

    For more, visit our website, and follow us on Linkedin, Twitter @GUDiplomacy, and Instagram @isd.georgetown

  • 10:40 - Interview with Jacqueline Charles

    In our seventh episode of Headlines and History, we discuss the recent political crisis in Haiti with Miami Herald report Jacqueline Charles, and Kelly covers the EU's Net-Zero Industry Act and reports of Russia's new space-based nuclear capabilities.

    Jacqueline Charles is the Haiti and Caribbean correspondent for the Miami Herald, where she has been covering the region for over a decade. She has won numerous awards for her reporting and was a finalist for the Pulitzer Prize for her coverage of the aftermath of the devastating 2010 earthquake in Haiti.

    The opinions expressed in this conversation are strictly those of the participants and do not represent the views of Georgetown University or any government entity.

    Correction: Scotland did NOT lose to England at Rugby this weekend!

    Episode recorded: February 27, 2024.

    Produced by Jarrett Dang and Freddie Mallinson.

    Diplomatic Immunity, a podcast from the Institute for the Study of Diplomacy at Georgetown University, brings you frank and candid conversations with experts on the issues facing diplomats and national security decision-makers around the world.

    Funding support from the Carnegie Corporation of New York.

    For more, visit our website, and follow us on Twitter @GUDiplomacy. Send any feedback to [email protected].

  • 11:50 - Interview with Beverly Ocheing on Senegal

    In our sixth episode of Headlines and History, we discuss the recent crisis in Senegal and its implications for West Africa with Beverly Ochieng, and Kelly covers recent news out of El Salvador, Sweden & NATO, and the 2026 Soccer World Cup.

    Beverly Ochieng is a senior digital journalist and Africa specialist at BBC Monitoring and an expert on African power politics, security, and governance. She’s also a non-resident senior associate at the Center for Strategic and International Studies’ Africa Program. She has a background in literature and cohosted the pioneering Africa-focused literary podcast "2 Girls and a Pod" from 2015 to 2018.

    The opinions expressed in this conversation are strictly those of the participants and do not represent the views of Georgetown University or any government entity.

    Episode recorded: February 13, 2024.

    Produced by Jarrett Dang and Freddie Mallinson.

    Diplomatic Immunity, a podcast from the Institute for the Study of Diplomacy at Georgetown University, brings you frank and candid conversations with experts on the issues facing diplomats and national security decision-makers around the world.

    Funding support from the Carnegie Corporation of New York.

    For more, visit our website, and follow us on Twitter @GUDiplomacy. Send any feedback to [email protected].

  • Season 6, Episode 5. Today, we’ll be covering the effects of the War in Ukraine on supply chains, the defense-industrial base, and the private sector. Kelly McFarland talks to Christine Micheinzi, a former senior executive at the U.S. Department of Defense, about how the global economy and defense industry are trying to deal with the knock-on effects of Putin’s War.

    Dr. Christine Micheinzi is the Founder and CEO of the consultancy group MMR Defense Solutions. She is also a non-resident Senior Associate at the Center for Strategic and International Studies’ Defense-Industrial Initiatives Group. Chris was formerly a longtime senior official in the U.S. Department of Defense, most recently holding positions as Senior Technology Advisor and Chief Technology Officer to the Undersecretary of Defense for Acquisition & Sustainment. Throughout her career, she has focused on issues related to supply chains, acquisition, and technology.

    The opinions expressed in this conversation are strictly those of the participants and do not represent the views of Georgetown University or any government entity.

    Produced by Freddie Mallinson and Jarrett Dang.

    Recorded on January 24, 2024. Diplomatic Immunity, a podcast from the Institute for the Study of Diplomacy at Georgetown University, brings you frank and candid conversations with experts on the issues facing diplomats and national security decision-makers around the world.

    Funding support from the Carnegie Corporation of New York.

    For more, visit our website, and follow us on Linkedin, Twitter @GUDiplomacy, and Instagram @isd.georgetown

  • In our fifth episode of Headlines and History, we discuss the outcome of the COP28 conference in Dubai with Joanna Lewis, the fallout from Taiwan's Presidential election, the new deal between Ethiopia and Somaliland, and give an update on the status of military aid to Ukraine currently stalled in Congress.

    Joanna Lewis is a distinguished associate professor at Georgetown University and director of the Science, Technology and International Affairs Program at the School of Foreign Service. At Georgetown, she also runs the Clean Energy and Climate Research Group and leads several dialogues facilitating U.S.-China climate change engagement. She was also the lead author of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change’s Fifth Assessment Report.

    The opinions expressed in this conversation are strictly those of the participants and do not represent the views of Georgetown University or any government entity.

    Episode recorded: January 23, 2024.

    Produced by Jarrett Dang and Freddie Mallinson.

    Diplomatic Immunity, a podcast from the Institute for the Study of Diplomacy at Georgetown University, brings you frank and candid conversations with experts on the issues facing diplomats and national security decision-makers around the world.

    Funding support from the Carnegie Corporation of New York.

    For more, visit our website, and follow us on Twitter @GUDiplomacy. Send any feedback to [email protected].

  • Season 6 Bonus Episode. Today, we’ll be talking about basketball and the power of sports diplomacy as we celebrate World Basketball Day – the first sport ever to receive the honor from the United Nations – which now takes place every year on December 21st.

    Today, Kelly talks with Lindsay Krasnoff about basketball and the history of sports diplomacy. Just in time for World Basketball Day, Lindsay has published a case study with ISD on the fascinating history of basketball diplomacy between France and China during the cold war, which we encourage listeners to check out via our case studies library. Find the store on our website, isd.georgetown.edu. Professors can also access all case studies for free via our faculty lounge.

    Dr. Lindsay Sarah Krasnoff is a historian, writer, and consultant working at the intersection of global sports, communications, and diplomacy. Author of Basketball Empire: France and the Making of a Global NBA and WNBA published by Bloomsbury in 2023, her work on French and global sports appears with CNN International, The Washington Post, The New York Times, and more. A veteran of the U.S. Department of State’s Office of the Historian, Krasnoff co-directed the Basketball Diplomacy in Africa Oral History Project for the Centre for International Studies and Diplomacy (SOAS University of London) as a Research Associate, and lectures on sports diplomacy and global sports at the NYU Tisch Institute for Global Sports.

    The opinions expressed in this conversation are strictly those of the participants and do not represent the views of Georgetown University or any government entity.

    Produced by Freddie Mallinson and Jarrett Dang.

    Recorded on December 13, 2023. Diplomatic Immunity, a podcast from the Institute for the Study of Diplomacy at Georgetown University, brings you frank and candid conversations with experts on the issues facing diplomats and national security decision-makers around the world.

    Funding support from the Carnegie Corporation of New York.

    For more, visit our website, and follow us on Twitter @GUDiplomacy.

  • Season 6, Episode 4. For this season’s theme, we’ll be covering the litany of unintended consequences and strategic surprises emanating from Russia’s invasion of Ukraine. From energy to technology to intelligence to geopolitical alignment, Russia’s invasion marks a sea change in numerous areas of diplomacy and foreign policy. We’ll be getting together with the best professionals in these fields to take stock and analyze where these trends may be headed.

    For our fourth episode, Kelly talks with National Defense University Professor Erica Marat about how Russia's power over its near-abroad has evolved since the start of its war with Ukraine.

    Dr. Erica Marat is a professor at the National Defense University and adjunct professor at Georgetown University. Her research focuses on violence, mobilization, and security institutions in Europe, Central Asia, India, and Mexico. Her book Transformative Violence: When Routine Cruelty Sparks Historic Mobilization will be published by the Oxford University Press in 2024.

    The opinions expressed in this conversation are strictly those of the participants and do not represent the views of Georgetown University or any government entity.

    Produced by Freddie Mallinson and Jarrett Dang.

    Recorded on December 12, 2023. Diplomatic Immunity, a podcast from the Institute for the Study of Diplomacy at Georgetown University, brings you frank and candid conversations with experts on the issues facing diplomats and national security decision-makers around the world.

    Funding support from the Carnegie Corporation of New York.

    For more, visit our website, and follow us on Twitter @GUDiplomacy.

  • In Diplomatic Immunity's new format, Headlines and History, we take listeners through a roundup of the most important headlines you may have missed in foreign policy and diplomacy, and take a deep dive into our most pressing topic with an expert conversation. Each week, we will alternate between Headlines and History and our regular Diplomatic Immunity format.

    In our third episode, we discuss the COP28 conference in Dubai, alleged assassinations by the Indian government on US soil, and we talk with historian and author Jeremi Suri on the history and legacy of Henry Kissinger.

    Jeremi Suri holds the Mack Brown distinguished chair for leadership in global affairs at the University of Texas at Austin and is the author of 11 books on foreign policy, including Henry Kissinger and the American Century, published in 2009, and his writings appear regularly in foreign affairs, the new york times, and on CNN. Listeners should check out his Podcast, This is Democracy, co-hosted with his son, Zachary; and his latest book, Civil War by Other Means: America’s Long and Unfinished Fight for Democracy, published in 2022.

    The opinions expressed in this conversation are strictly those of the participants and do not represent the views of Georgetown University or any government entity.

    Episode recorded: December 5, 2023.

    Produced by Jarrett Dang and Freddie Mallinson.

    Diplomatic Immunity, a podcast from the Institute for the Study of Diplomacy at Georgetown University, brings you frank and candid conversations with experts on the issues facing diplomats and national security decision-makers around the world.

    Funding support from the Carnegie Corporation of New York.

    For more, visit our website, and follow us on Twitter @GUDiplomacy. Send any feedback to [email protected].

    https://www.amazon.com/Henry-Kissinger-American-Century-Jeremi/dp/0674032527

    https://www.amazon.com/Civil-War-Other-Means-Unfinished/dp/1541758544#customerReviews

    https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/30/opinions/henry-kissinger-vietnam-american-power-suri/index.html